[04:02] <AnAnt> Hello, is there an alpha release this week ?
[04:02] <micahg> AnAnt: yes, alpha2
[04:02] <AnAnt> ah, that's why syncrequests aren't processed then
[04:02] <micahg> AnAnt: for main, yes
[04:02] <AnAnt> universe
[04:03] <micahg> AnAnt: well, if a MOTU is free, it can be done with the new syncrequest script
[04:03] <maco> hi
[04:03] <AnAnt> what new script ?
[04:03] <maco> its not that new
[04:04] <maco> pitti's had it kickin around for a bit
[04:04] <AnAnt> micahg: how ?
[04:05]  * micahg is finding
[04:06] <micahg> AnAnt: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev/ubuntu-dev-tools/trunk/annotate/head:/syncpackage  <-- should be in ubuntu-dev-tools
[04:07] <AnAnt> ah
[04:16] <AnAnt> micahg: did you try it before ?
[04:16] <micahg> AnAnt: I don't have upload rights yet :)
[04:16] <AnAnt> ah, ok
[04:16] <micahg> AnAnt: I'm hoping to get some next week :)
[04:35] <maco> AnAnt: the version in dev tools i dont think works yet. because its waiting on some lp functionality
[04:35] <maco> AnAnt: you have to actually grab the script that pitti posted to ubuntu-devel
[04:36] <micahg> maco: I think the script works, I know bdrung was working on it, you might need the version from trunk though
[04:37] <AnAnt> maco: it works here
[04:37] <maco> interesting
[04:37] <maco> so they made the button on lp now then?
[04:37] <micahg> maco: no
[04:37] <micahg> not AFAIK anyways
[04:37] <AnAnt> maco: syncpackage creates the changes file, and I dput that
[04:40] <AnAnt> dunno about that LP button
[04:40] <maco> hmph. thats what the original did. for a while the one in dev tools didnt do that though. it did some lplib stuff that assumed thered be a button in lp. i guess it was reverted
[04:40] <maco> the button in lp never existed
[04:41] <maco> so that version never worked
[04:46] <AnAnt> maco: thanks for the tip
[06:34] <kees> jdong: say, do you have your irssi apparmor profile available somewhere?
[06:34] <jdong> kees: http://bodhizazen.net/aa-profiles/jdong/ubuntu-8.04/usr.bin.irssi it's a bit old though
[06:34] <jdong> I'm not sure if that's my most recent...
[06:35] <kees> heh, audio :)
[06:35] <jdong> kees: heh that was the one where I had a audible ping extension
[06:35] <jdong> and I either didn't feel like or didn't know about subprofiles
[06:36] <jdong> unfortunately I didn't make an irssi profile for general use, just something that made me happy for my irssi config...
[06:36]  * kees recommends "owner @{HOME}" in place of "/home/*" and @{PROC} in place of /proc
[06:36] <jdong> absolutely; I knew you were gonna call me out on that one!
[06:36] <kees> hehe
[06:37] <kees> cool; it looks very similar to one I put together this afternoon.
[06:37] <jdong> neat!
[06:37] <jdong> personal use or for the apparmor-profiles package?
[06:38] <kees> could probably go in apparmor-profiles, but I'm hoping to use it too.  maybe ship it with irssi itself :)
[06:38] <jdong> awesome!
[06:38] <kees> though given the perl extensions, probably not, since it would need a lot of stuff
[06:40] <kees> jdong: thanks for the url; I'm off to bed.  :)
[06:41] <jdong> kees: sure thing, good night!
[06:58] <dholbach> good morning
[07:02] <ajmitch> morning dholbach
[07:02] <dholbach> hey ajmitch
[07:26] <EzraR> anyone want to review a package on revu? :) It got one ak already should be an easy one!
[07:28] <EzraR> http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/mangler
[07:28] <EzraR> ventrilo for linux cool app
[07:58] <LLStarks> hmm. minitube isn't pulling any of its dependencies. is this intentional?
[07:58] <Rhonda> what do you mean, isn't pulling any of its dependencies?
[07:59] <Rhonda> If they are dependencies then it's apt's job to pull them.
[08:00]  * Rhonda sighs at packages.ubuntu still not knowing about maverick properly. %-/
[08:05] <LLStarks> rhonda, minitube pulls none of the dependencies it needs
[08:05] <Rhonda> It's Lucid Lynx, right?
[08:06] <LLStarks> it pulls nothing.
[08:06] <LLStarks> lucid and maverick
[08:06] <Rhonda> LLStarks: That question was independent to your issue. ;)
[08:06] <Rhonda> The full name is Lucid Lynx?
[08:06] <LLStarks> yes
[08:06] <LLStarks> why?
[08:14] <Rhonda> Updating the UbuntuBackports help page.
[08:28] <Rhonda> What do people put into the debian/changelog for backports? Version number and the likes?
[09:07] <Laney> Source change backport from XX to YY (LP: #zzzzzz)
[10:01] <dupondje> geser: you check to sync Opal? Or should I file a sync request ?
[10:01] <geser> dupondje: test building it right now
[10:01] <dupondje> fine fine :)
[10:05] <Rhonda> Laney: What would it read for backport wesnoth-1.8 version 1:1.8.2-1 to lucid-backports, e.g.?
[10:08] <geser> dupondje: bug #600121
[10:09] <dupondje> great :)
[10:23] <Laney> Rhonda: does it need changes or can you just build the M packages on L?
[10:25] <Rhonda> Can someone please change bug #524490 to wont fix? That is the way that SASL works, it requires plain text stored passwords.
[10:25] <Rhonda> Laney: It doesn't require any changes, I even build it straight ahead on karmic.
[10:26] <Laney> Rhonda: then you don't need to write a changelog entry at all
[10:26] <Laney> just request the backports — archive admins have scripts to do no-change backports
[10:27] <Rhonda> Laney: Yes, but for a test build, potential to offer through PPA for others to test?
[10:27] <Rhonda> From what I understood it is encouraged to offer test packages.
[10:27]  * Laney has never done this
[10:27] <Rhonda> %-)
[10:27] <Laney> but for a PPA I guess it's not important what you write
[10:28] <Laney> * No-change backport from M to L
[11:29] <Iraq> Q: How install File arichef filename.tar.gz ?step by step learn me please
[14:52] <bdrung> tumbleweed: welcome in MOTU (i just got the log from the DMB meeting)
[14:54] <shadeslayer> ooohhh
[14:54] <shadeslayer> tumbleweed: congrats :D
[14:55] <tumbleweed> bdrung, shadeslayer: thanks
[14:55] <shadeslayer> tumbleweed: i became member tho :P
[14:56] <shadeslayer> will apply for MOTU in 2-3 months time :D
[14:58] <tumbleweed> shadeslayer: yes, do
[14:58] <shadeslayer> :D
[14:58] <bdrung> shadeslayer: you became ubuntu member?
[14:58] <shadeslayer> bdrung: yes
[14:59] <shadeslayer> bdrung: On monday
[14:59] <shadeslayer> actually... Kubuntu Member
[14:59] <bdrung> shadeslayer: that's why you were not on the DMB log
[14:59] <shadeslayer> :)
[14:59] <shadeslayer> bdrung: DMB ??
[15:00] <bdrung> tumbleweed: i saw that you became member of the sponsors team. welcome there too. the team needs man power. ;)
[15:00] <tumbleweed> shadeslayer: developer membership board - where you apply for contributing-developer / motu
[15:00] <shadeslayer> oh
[15:00] <tumbleweed> bdrung: thanks, I cleared out all the easy stuff from the queue
[15:01] <bdrung> tumbleweed: what do you specify as easy?
[15:01] <tumbleweed> but there's a lot of things in there that look like tehy'll never be sponsored
[15:01] <tumbleweed> bdrung: syncs and merges
[15:01] <bdrung> tumbleweed: did you played with ack-sync?
[15:01] <tumbleweed> actually, no. but I have been using syncpackage
[15:01] <bdrung> syncs are very easy ones ;)
[15:02] <shadeslayer> hehe
[15:02] <tumbleweed> yeah
[15:02] <bdrung> tumbleweed: ack-sync is a wrapper around syncpackage
[15:02] <tumbleweed> aah, that'd save effort
[15:03] <bdrung> you just type 'ack-sync <bug-number>' and i will download the source, call syncpackage, and build it, then you press enter once and it will be uploaded
[15:03] <tumbleweed> sounds way too esay :)
[15:05] <bdrung> it works on my and on fabricesp's setup.
[15:07] <bdrung> tumbleweed: that's why i did 164 to maverick (most of them were sponsored syncs)
[15:11] <tumbleweed> heh. not that doing it by hand is much more work: almost all of the sync requests come from the same 5 people (who will presumably become motu)
[15:15] <bdrung> tumbleweed: there are more than 5 people requesting syncs. it's the 90/10 rules. 90 % come from 5 people. ;)
[15:16] <tumbleweed> yeah
[15:18] <bdrung> tumbleweed: if you want hard work. go to http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/ and sort by date and take the oldest.
[15:18] <tumbleweed> bdrung: yeah, that's what I mean about things that never look like they'll be sponsored
[15:20] <bdrung> tumbleweed: old bugs don't mean that they are in the queue for a long time!
[15:22] <tumbleweed> bdrung: that's true, but many of them have been pending review for a few years
[15:23] <bdrung> tumbleweed: i sponsored some SRU requests for karmic that were one year old. old dosn't mean that it's not needed any more, but a lack of man power.
[15:24] <tumbleweed> bdrung: yeah, I will look into them. but it's hard not to feel that some were ignored for a reason
[15:25] <bdrung> tumbleweed: i doubt that most of them were ignored for a reason. if you want to review sponsor requests for main, you can work on them and ping me if the request should be uploaded.
[15:26] <bdrung> tumbleweed: over a half year ago i cleared the sponsors queue for universe (back then they were separate). some of the patches weren't needed any more, but there were still some valid ones.
[15:28] <tumbleweed> bdrung: ok, thanks
[16:25] <LLStarks> hi, should ndiswrapper-common be pulling in ndiswrapper-dkms and causing endless module installation loops on maverick?
[17:06] <EzraR> anyone want to review a package on revu? :) It got one ak already should be an easy one!
[17:06] <EzraR> http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/mangler
[17:06] <EzraR> ventrilo for linux cool app
[17:41] <^arky^> Are there any software-center developers in here?
[17:42]  * ^arky^ looks around for mvo and mpt 
[18:48] <tumbleweed> bdrung: why isn't ack-sync installed by ubutnu-dev-tools? (it isn't in setup.py)
[18:50] <bdrung> tumbleweed: because it's neither documented, nor tested on different systems (it works with my pbuilder configuration, but yours?)
[18:51] <tumbleweed> ok fair enough
[18:51] <bdrung> tumbleweed: if you address these points, we can include it
[18:51]  * tumbleweed better read teh source then
[18:52] <bdrung> tumbleweed: and no error is catched. someone should write nice error messages.
[18:52] <tumbleweed> well I'll see how many exceptions I run into
[18:53] <tumbleweed> looks like it'll get on with my pbuilder
[19:58] <shadeslayer> hi,anyone around?
[19:58] <ari-tczew> Dear developers, as we are after DebianImportFreeze, I appeal to more frequently move syncs from ~ubuntu-archive bug-list.  Thanks.
[19:58] <shadeslayer> i need help with http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=8338
[19:58] <shadeslayer> ari-tczew: we already have import freeze
[19:58] <shadeslayer> oh :P
[19:58]  * shadeslayer didnt read properly
[19:58] <ari-tczew> ;]
[20:01] <shadeslayer> so.. anyone around to help with that revu? itll be quick
[20:02] <shadeslayer> ive fixed points 1,3,4,5,6 and 8
[20:15] <tyarusso> Hi, I could use some help understanding debhelper, specifically dh_install.  Anyone around knowledgeable about that?
[20:16] <c_korn> tyarusso: just ask your specific question. if someone has time and knowledge to help you he/she will do !
[20:18] <shadeslayer> tyarusso: well.. i can help  abut
[20:18] <shadeslayer> *a bit
[20:19] <tyarusso> Okay, my issue is that it doesn't seem to be finding the files it's supposed to copy over.  Re-running to get the exact error now.
[20:19] <tyarusso> Some sort of a path problem within the build environment I guess.
[20:20] <shadeslayer> tyarusso: ah,you need to specify the files to install in .install files,that can be found by using dh_install --list-missing
[20:20] <tyarusso> Here's the error:  dh_install: nagios-xi-agent missing files (conf/nrpe.d/*), aborting
[20:21] <shadeslayer> tyarusso: what does dh_install --list-missing say?
[20:21] <tyarusso> shadeslayer: dh_install: nagios-xi-agent missing files (conf/nrpe.d/*), aborting
[20:22] <tyarusso> My .install btw is shown on http://paste.ubuntu.com/457500/
[20:22] <shadeslayer> tyarusso: no no, run dh_install --list-missing
[20:22] <shadeslayer> via console
[20:22] <tyarusso> shadeslayer: I did - that second paste was the output from that.
[20:22] <shadeslayer> oh..
[20:23] <shadeslayer> weird
[20:23] <tyarusso> What were you expecting it to say?
[20:23] <tyarusso> btw, I'm building with pbuilder if that makes a difference.
[20:23] <shadeslayer> well... i was expecting : dh_install : xxxx is installed in debian/tmp but not installed anywhere
[20:23] <shadeslayer> tyarusso: doh!
[20:23] <shadeslayer> tyarusso: one sec
[20:24] <shadeslayer> tyarusso: put this hook http://pastebin.com/gp9DW5vP
[20:24] <shadeslayer> in your pbuilder
[20:25] <shadeslayer> then run pdebuild
[20:25] <shadeslayer> tyarusso: which puts a pretty log in the parent dir,with the necessary info about missing files,then put those files in proper foo.install files
[20:26] <shadeslayer> tyarusso: oh and btw #ubuntu-packaging is a better channel for this
[20:26] <tyarusso> shadeslayer: um, what does this do?  My package neither involves kde4 nor uses CDBS, so perhaps this should be rewritten a bit?
[20:26] <tyarusso> Wasn't aware a separate channel existed these days.  Good to know.
[20:27] <shadeslayer> didnt realise that this hook was kde specific :P
[20:30] <shadeslayer> uh... can someone tell tyarusso that i went to sleep? :P