[00:00] <osmosis> hallyn, yes. a few days, pretty predictably.
[00:01] <osmosis> hallyn, is there a workaround? bug filed?
[00:12] <hallyn> osmosis: (sorry, just trying to find where i have the fix)
[00:12] <hallyn> osmosis: see the end of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qemu-kvm/+bug/588293
[00:12] <hallyn> (a package with the fix is in my ppa)
[00:13] <hallyn> kirkland: that's for https://code.launchpad.net/~serge-hallyn/ubuntu/lucid/qemu-kvm/memleak-fix which also needs sponsoring for lucid-proposed
[00:20] <osmosis> hallyn, thanks. good to know the status.
[00:21] <GhostFreeman> What's a good command line utility to edit wifi settings in ubuntu server
[00:53] <thesheff17> anyone using vmbuilder and --tmpfs=-
[00:53] <thesheff17> it doesn't work for lucid
[00:55] <ScottK> smoser: I should be able to look at the pyyaml/python-defaults question within the next serveral hours.
[01:35] <smoser> ScottK, thats great.
[01:35] <smoser> please let me know if you need anything.
[01:40] <thesheff17> anyone using vmbuilder and --tmpfs=- w/ lucid?
[01:47] <zul> RoAkSoAx: there isnt afaik you might want to go to slangasek open week session
[02:20] <RoAkSoAx> zul: ok :)
[02:20] <RoAkSoAx> thanks
[02:54] <smoser> kirkland, byobu-by-default doesn't work if the user has a .bash_profile ?
[03:16] <Dravekx> anyone using 64-bit ubuntu server 10.04?
[03:17] <Dravekx> I have 9 and was wondering if it is worth upgrading.
[03:20] <twb> Never upgrade until you know it'll fix an important bug or add an important feature.
[03:20] <twb> Because you can be damn sure that *any* software upgrade will introduce new and annoying bugs.
[03:20] <Dravekx> true
[03:24] <Dravekx> ok, so for a home server, is version 10 better than version 9 if all I'm doing is web/media/file hosting?
[03:25] <Dravekx> I'm an amateur and was looking for a more professional opinion.
[03:31] <thesheff17> Dravekx it depends on the software you are running on your old server.....my company has used ubuntu for years and can say we upgrade right away but rarely see performance when upgrading
[03:32] <thesheff17> because usually you just see little jumps in the version...for example 8.04 uses apache 2.2.8 and ubuntu 10.04 uses 2.2.14
[03:33] <thesheff17> I'm sure there are a ton bug fixes between the two but unless you are focused on fixing a specific bug with a new version I would not upgrade.  Though the sooner you start testing the never version the quicker you can move to the longer supported operating system.
[03:34] <Dravekx> thesheff17, awesome! thanks :)
[03:35] <thesheff17> the key is never to be on a version of ubuntu when the support runs out...because if there is a security flaw in the old version chances are it will be only patched in the new version and the old will never get fixed.
[03:37] <twb> 12:25 <Dravekx> I'm an amateur and was looking for a more professional opinion.
[03:37] <twb> Dravekx: no.
[03:37] <twb> Dravekx: for that, pretty much anything will do
[03:37] <twb> Er, in terms of functionality; thesheff17 is right about security support.
[03:38] <twb> We still have people running that kind of setup on Fedora Core 1, because they haven't cared enough to upgrade.
[03:38] <Dravekx> oh
[03:39] <Dravekx> since the server is home based, security is priority one.
[03:40] <Dravekx> I only asked because when v9 was released, there were opinions of frustration about bugs and issues. A lot of people turned back to v8. This is the reason for my question.
[03:40] <twb> Dravekx: then you probably want to look for references to "hardening", paying attention to the publication date on any articles you find.
[03:40] <thesheff17> what software specifically?
[03:40] <twb> thesheff17: he said "all I'm doing is web/media/file hosting"
[03:41] <Dravekx> apache/mysql/samba << that's about it. pretty simple.
[03:41] <twb> MySQL won't talk to anything on its own, so you presumably also have PHP and some shitty PHP apps.
[03:41] <thesheff17> hehe
[03:42] <thesheff17> well I can say I really like ubuntu server vs just fedora
[03:42] <thesheff17> does fedora even have a server version?
[03:42] <twb> thesheff17: I hate Ubuntu, but at least it's closer to Debian.
[03:42] <thesheff17> why do you hate ubuntu?
[03:42] <Dravekx> currently, it has LAMP installed which has run fine from the beginning.
[03:42] <thesheff17> I think ubuntu is very good for the lamp stack
[03:43] <Dravekx> cool :)
[03:43] <twb> thesheff17: because it's largely controlled by a single group, and they make concessions to business/corporate needs that Debian wouldn't.  And they tend to focus on wanky GUI desktops and sometimes break things for other use cases.
[03:44] <twb> Of course, it's BECAUSE Ubuntu has e.g. fixed release dates, that I can use it in a corporate environment, but I'm not allowed to use Debian.
[03:44] <thesheff17> true twb...I was coming from a red hat world
[03:44] <thesheff17> so switching to ubuntu was a dream come true
[03:44] <twb> Right.
[03:44] <thesheff17> ug sorry to hear you can't use debian.
[03:45] <twb> But a lot of those benefits are because Ubuntu's leveraging Debian's history of good Q/A
[03:45] <thesheff17> by far
[03:45] <thesheff17> if it wasn't for debian....ubuntu would never been around
[03:45] <Dravekx> I came from a Microsoft world. I was told Ubuntu was the "preschool way" to learn. lol.
[03:45] <thesheff17> the day I found the apt-get...used to be gentoo guy...I was so happy
[03:45] <Dravekx> so far, I love it.
[03:45] <twb> Debian wins from a combination of dpkg/apt and debian-policy/lintian.
[03:46] <twb> The dpkg/apt framework wouldn't be any good if they packages it installed were of RH quality
[03:46] <thesheff17> haha so true
[03:47] <thesheff17> Dravekx...ubuntu is geared twards people that haven't used linux...but it really does everything any other linux does....people are just afraid to make that jump to linux
[03:47] <Dravekx> i tried installing debian, but it kept failing. I was told,  due to the server hardware being specifically based for Windows Server Only. But Ubuntu works perfect and without any problems.
[03:47] <Dravekx> I assumed I didnt know what i was doing. LOL.
[03:47] <twb> Dravekx: Debian is certainly optimized for people who know what they're doing.
[03:47] <thesheff17> the fact you have heard of ubuntu is better than most...can't tell you the number of companies I interview for and say they are tired of redhat but don't know what to use.
[03:48] <thesheff17> hardware is always hit or miss on linux...one day hopefully all hardware is supported by every linux os.
[03:49] <twb> "One day" we should have a better kernel than Linux.
[03:49] <thesheff17> hehe i'm not sure it will be in our life time...but I will keep my fingers crossed.
[03:50] <thesheff17> twb have you used vmbuilder I swear it worked w/ 9.04 but 10.04 won't build an image using the tmpfs which builds it ram
[03:51] <thesheff17> it is even in the damn man pages
[03:51] <twb> I haven't, no.
[03:51] <thesheff17> but tells me it isn't valid
[03:52] <Dravekx> cool. files transfer complete. I'm going to blow the system off and go from scratch. thanks for the opinions, guys :)
[03:52] <twb> Unfortunately I'm still stuck on the in-house analogues which I wrote five to eight years ago, because there wasn't anything like vmbuilder at the time.
[03:52] <twb> Dravekx: why don't you just upgrade in-place?
[03:52] <thesheff17> took about 1 day for me to build an Eucalyptus cloud with ubuntu...and then the controller machine it was running took a crap the next day.
[03:53] <twb> !upgrade >Dravekx
[03:53] <thesheff17> I'm look for a quick and dirty solution to build my company testing env
[03:53] <thesheff17> automatically
[03:53] <kirkland> smoser: hrm, really?
[03:53] <kirkland> smoser: that's a regression, if so
[03:54] <thesheff17> I guess I could always go back to virt-clone
[03:54] <Dravekx> twb, there's a lot of "left over" garbage. It has 4TB of information ont he tail end with 1.2TB are old files needing to be cleared.
[03:54] <thesheff17> but virt-clone breaks the network adapter and I have to manually fix it everytime
[03:54] <Dravekx> it's easier to do a fresh install.
[03:55] <twb> Dravekx: if you say so
[03:55] <Dravekx> OCD doesnt help.
[03:56] <Dravekx> :S
[04:00] <thesheff17> how can ubuntu put this in the documentation if it doesn't:
[04:00] <thesheff17> As you can easily imagine, writing to RAM is a LOT  faster than writing to disk. If you have some free memory, letting vmbuilder perform its operation in a RAMdisk will help a lot and the option --tmpfs  will help you do just that:
[04:06] <twb> thesheff17: how much free ram do you have?
[04:07] <thesheff17> I have 8GB on this system and tells me 6950 of it is unused
[04:07] <twb> From first principles, I'd expect a desktop build to consume anything from 2GB to 6GB during the build process
[04:07] <twb> OK.
[04:08] <twb> AFAIK you haven't pastebinned the exact error output yet.
[04:11] <thesheff17> yea my exact command is: sudo vmbuilder kvm ubuntu --suite=lucid --flavour=virtual --arch=amd64 --mirror=http://192.168.1.4/ubuntu -o --libvirt=qemu:///system --tmpfs=- --ip=192.168.1.98 --mem=512 --hostname=vm1 --bridge=br0 --user=ubuntuadmin --name=ubuntuadmin --pass=password --addpkg=vim --addpkg=ssh --addpkg=ntp --addpkg=ntpdate --addpkg=xvfb
[04:11] <thesheff17> and I get the vmbuilder: error: no such option: --tmpfs
[04:13] <twb> Oh.  I had the impression that it was failing during the build.
[04:13] <thesheff17> or sorry no...it is failing prior to that...I'm running it without it right now...let me see what the output is.
[04:15] <thesheff17> maybe because I need this vmbuilder.partition file
[04:18] <chrismsnz> hey guys - anybody with LVS experience around?
[04:19] <twb> LVS?
[04:19] <chrismsnz> linux virtual server
[04:19] <chrismsnz> keepalived/ldirectord etc...
[04:20] <chrismsnz> I have a pair of servers running varnishd, and a keepalive service on one of them to balance the connections between them
[04:20] <thesheff17> chrismsnz
[04:20] <thesheff17> very little
[04:20] <thesheff17> I have used keepalived
[04:21] <chrismsnz> however keepalive/ipvs is heavily favouring the local server (by over 10x) for connections - even though they're the same weight and using "weighted least connections" algorithm
[04:21] <chrismsnz> thesheff17: the documentation is absolutely terrible unfortunately :\
[04:21] <thesheff17> yea tell me about it
[04:22] <chrismsnz> we considered moving to ldirectord - but that seems just as bad D;
[04:22] <thesheff17> I think that is why I abandoned it along time ago.
[04:22] <thesheff17> I use pound
[04:22] <thesheff17> but it isn't active active
[04:22] <chrismsnz> pound with heartbeat?
[04:23] <chrismsnz> we use the failover capabilities, too
[04:23] <thesheff17> yea...I haven't gotten that far with pound
[04:23] <thesheff17> I wish I have
[04:23] <thesheff17> I have used pound with EC2 as the load balancer
[04:23] <thesheff17> and it will just know if one of the two die
[04:23] <thesheff17> not that great but works
[04:24] <chrismsnz> well, we're already using varnish as reverse proxy/cache/backend load balancer
[04:24] <chrismsnz> which, is friggen awesome
[04:24] <chrismsnz> we just need something to balance/failover the two varnish servers we run
[04:25] <chrismsnz> and the lvs low-layer balancing is ideal... unfortunately we have this going on :\
[04:26] <Dravekx> anybody bored and want to help me setup a web/file/media server with 2 drives? lol
[04:26] <thesheff17> can't use just use hearbeat w/ varnish?
[04:27] <thesheff17> Dravekx ask away...not sure what config you are looking for
[04:27] <Dravekx> k :)
[04:29] <chrismsnz> thesheff17: we can, although we'd like to use both servers if we can - to handle traffic spikes
[04:29] <chrismsnz> one of the varnish servers is enough to handle load 90% of the time, but we get busy periods so it's good to spread the load
[04:29] <thesheff17> can't you just do round robin DNS
[04:29] <thesheff17> against the two varnish?
[04:30] <chrismsnz> yep, could do, it's just if one failed the other would have to pick up it's IP
[04:30] <chrismsnz> that's not a terrible idea, so will look into it
[04:31] <Dravekx> which should I use: automatic updates, none, or landscape? before i was manually updating.
[04:31] <thesheff17> yea I bet some DNS services will know if the varnish dies and just redirect all traffic to the varnish that is still up
[04:31] <thesheff17> I always do manual updates....I would hate for something to break and not know it is related to updates.
[04:31] <chrismsnz> not without a tiny ttl :\
[04:31] <Dravekx> good point :)
[04:32] <thesheff17> I guess what you want is heartbeat as well on each machine
[04:32] <thesheff17> and it should pick up the other IP if one fails
[04:32] <chrismsnz> yeah
[04:33] <chrismsnz> we're even thinking of adding a third one
[04:33] <chrismsnz> which might end up being omfglame
[04:33] <thesheff17> haha
[04:34] <thesheff17> luckily I make our data center buy F5 for production...but our dev env I have fought with pound varnish and all the others for a long time
[04:34] <thesheff17> http://www.howtoforge.com/high-availability-load-balancer-haproxy-heartbeat-debian-etch
[04:34] <thesheff17> a good how to with heartbeat w/ apache
[04:35] <thesheff17> should be the same with varnish
[04:35] <thesheff17> I would love to hear if you get it to work...I'm always looking for a free solutions to our F5
[04:36] <thesheff17> they cost a small fortune for support.
[04:37] <chrismsnz> hey don't get me wrong - when lb was running on a different server it ran amazingly
[04:37] <Dravekx> before, I was using SSH to transfer files around from win7 to my server via lan/wan. Is samba a better choice or should I stick with ssh?
[04:37] <chrismsnz> never, ever had a problem with keepalived/lvs
[04:37] <ScottK> smoser: I just uploaded a fixed python-defaults.  Once that's built and published, a no-change rebuild for pyyaml should fix it.
[04:37] <chrismsnz> and even now, it's balancing connections, it's just being odd about it
[04:38] <thesheff17> hehe chrismsnz...try to just offset the weirdness :)
[04:38] <thesheff17> by overloading the under utilized server :)
[04:38] <thesheff17> wonder why it won't do round robin
[04:39] <chrismsnz> i use it to balance http, https, ftp connections and a couple other things on a crappy supermicro p4 with 600+ concurrent connections
[04:39] <thesheff17> wow
[04:39] <thesheff17> Dravekx
[04:39] <thesheff17> ssh is great...samba is faster
[04:39] <chrismsnz> yeah i might try messing with the weights
[04:39] <thesheff17> from experience
[04:39] <twb> "all current models of the BIG-IP appliance have specialized hardware for SSL handshakes"
[04:40] <twb> Cool beans.
[04:40] <twb> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F5_Networks)
[04:40] <Dravekx> k :)
[04:40] <thesheff17> yea that is nice about the F5
[04:40] <thesheff17> that we don't have to load https ever
[04:40] <thesheff17> pound also though supports an SSL certificate
[04:41] <twb> I'm not in that space, so I'm not familiar with such stuff
[04:41] <thesheff17> which is another problem I have found with other reverse proxy don't always
[04:41] <twb> Closest I get is VIA AES in hardware
[04:41] <Dravekx> thesheff17, samba is for local lan/wan files and printers, correct?
[04:41] <twb> Dravekx: Samba provides Windows-flavoured file and printer sharing.
[04:41] <thesheff17> yes
[04:42] <twb> ...and Windows-flavoured authentication.
[04:42] <thesheff17> yea the F5 we have is in a shared env...I hate it
[04:43] <thesheff17> Dravekx samba uses the smb protocol which I have found very quick when transfering between linux/windows
[04:43] <thesheff17> instead of ssh
[04:43] <thesheff17> I would not use samba really though on a WAN
[04:44] <thesheff17> for WAN transfers I use rsync
[04:44] <thesheff17> rsync is SSH + only transfers what has changed
[04:44] <twb> FSVO SMB = CIFS
[04:45] <twb> You *can* run rsync unencrypted, but I wouldn't do it over an untrusted network, except for stuff like the Ubuntu install .iso
[04:46] <Dravekx> thesheff17, I have 2 computers on the LAN, and 3 laptops on the WAN that need to access/transfer files. I was using openssh with WinSCP for transferring everything. it was really slow.
[04:46] <Dravekx> its all on secure intranet.
[04:46] <thesheff17> so the 3 laptops are in different location?
[04:46] <Dravekx> thesheff17, yes
[04:47] <Dravekx> thesheff17, diff location inside the house.
[04:47] <twb> Dravekx: so you have 100baseT between them?
[04:47] <thesheff17> why do consider the laptops WAN?
[04:47] <thesheff17> they should all be on a private network
[04:47] <thesheff17> 192.168.1.x usually
[04:47] <Dravekx> uhm. Fiber Optics on the LAN.
[04:48] <thesheff17> how do the laptop connecrt to the network?
[04:48] <Dravekx> WAN: Wireless Access Network ( via router)
[04:48] <thesheff17> so a wireless B/G/N connection
[04:48] <Dravekx> thesheff17, yes :)
[04:49] <thesheff17> hmm....all your machines should really be in the same subnet
[04:49] <thesheff17> also just using wireless will be a bottleneck
[04:50] <AnAnt> Hello, I filed a merge request for mutt (LP #588736) a while ago
[04:51] <Dravekx> thesheff17, the router allows each connection to have an intranet IP of 192.168.1.x (x being 1-10)
[04:51] <chrismsnz> thesheff17: funnily enough, changing the balancing algorithim from lc (least connections) to rr (round robin) seems to have fixed it
[04:51] <chrismsnz> _b
[04:52] <Dravekx> thesheff17, the server is on passthrough, so it uses the main IP. (not sure the lingo is correct)
[04:52] <thesheff17> Dravekx when you say WAN usually it refers to a public IP...it my mind...so they are all 192.168.1.x
[04:52] <Dravekx> yes
[04:53] <Dravekx> thesheff17, the WAN is encrypted, so it's not exactly public. :)
[04:53] <thesheff17> how does least connections work?  weird that is any different than round robin
[04:53] <thesheff17> since round robin should balance all anyway
[04:53] <thesheff17> Dravekx...I would try samba
[04:53] <thesheff17> with the laptops
[04:54] <thesheff17> and make sure there is no other traffic on the 2 LAN machines and wireless router
[04:54] <Dravekx> k :)
[04:55] <thesheff17> Dravekx you can also use sync toy and robocopy...which is rsync for windows....which will only tranfer stuff that has changed.
[04:55] <thesheff17> *transfer
[04:55] <Dravekx> thesheff17, ty for all this! :) I will look those up.
[04:55] <chrismsnz> lc will send the next connection to the host with the least connections
[04:56] <chrismsnz> useful when you have connections/requests of different lengths
[04:56] <chrismsnz> rr will do fine though
[04:56] <thesheff17> sync toy is a GUI based front end require crap loads of .net...robocopy is command line driven and is in some windows server zip utility package.
[04:56] <thesheff17> chrismsnz: ah very true...
[04:58] <thesheff17> yea maybe one of the things you are doing are making the packets huge causing lc to favor the one machine
[04:58] <twb> Er, cwRsync is rsync for Windows
[04:58] <thesheff17> well cygwin is cygwin
[04:59] <twb> Granted.
[04:59] <twb> cwRsync is basically just the bare minimum of cygwin necessary for rsync --rsh=ssh
[04:59] <thesheff17> ah nice
[04:59] <thesheff17> I have used robocopy w/ a samba share for years with great results
[05:01] <thesheff17> but I really hate the dos prompt
[05:01] <thesheff17> I wish I could never touch a windows server again
[05:01] <Dravekx> lol
[05:01] <twb> We have interns for that
[05:02] <Dravekx> I'm trying to steer clear of Windows Server. i have been trying for the past 2 years. lol
[05:02] <thesheff17> yea I wish I had an intern
[05:02] <thesheff17> hopefully soon
[05:03] <thesheff17> the worst is logging on having the server tell you it is time to reboot
[05:03] <thesheff17> because of updates
[05:03] <thesheff17> in the middle of the day
[05:03] <Dravekx> ...with the annoying "every 10min reminder"
[05:04] <thesheff17> omg...yea don't remind me
[05:04] <thesheff17> I ran a huge .NET app where people connected through RDP to run the application....everyday that stupid window would pop up
[05:06] <Dravekx> thesheff17, configuration time... this is the part i get lost, dazed, and dangerous. although google seems to work at times.
[05:06] <Dravekx> http://www.dravekx.com/
[05:07] <Dravekx> so far so good
[05:07] <thesheff17> apache working
[05:07] <Dravekx> :D
[05:08] <thesheff17> yea for configuration...I always backup the template...or whatever is there
[05:08] <thesheff17> and then start editing slowly
[05:14] <twb> etckeeper is your friend
[05:14] <thesheff17> hehe I'm lazy
[05:14] <twb> Well, current versions have an automated daily commit
[05:14] <thesheff17> oh wow
[05:14] <thesheff17> nice
[05:15] <thesheff17> I thought I broke my web site today messing with the default...it was actually just a problem with cc gateway
[05:15] <twb> On 8.04 you can approximate it by simply adding an /etc/crontab entry @daily root etckeeper commit "Daily autocommit."
[05:15] <thesheff17> etckeeper would have helped today
[05:17] <thesheff17> I hear more and more people using puppet
[05:17] <thesheff17> but haven't used it yet myself
[05:17] <twb> Puppet's a pain in the arse
[05:17] <thesheff17> good you just saying that...I don't want to learn it ;)
[05:17] <twb> Unless you have a rack full of gear, don't bother
[05:18] <thesheff17> I do...but I get by with scp/ssh fine
[05:18] <thesheff17> this is also really nice: http://www.capify.org/index.php/Capistrano
[05:19] <twb> Puppet's primarily useful when you have a large number of proximal, wildly heterogeneous hosts in heterogeneous roles.
[05:19] <thesheff17> yea very few machines are the same in my env
[05:19] <twb> It's no use to me because most machines I babysit are nominally under political/administrative control of my customers.
[05:20] <thesheff17> I see
[05:20] <thesheff17> haha prob have to just permission to do sudo
[05:26] <thesheff17> well i got vmbuilder to run w/ out that tmpfs
[05:26] <thesheff17> it creates the virtual machine...but then I go to start it and it says: error: Failed to start domain vm1
[05:26] <thesheff17> I love when I find post on the ubuntu forums with the same problem with no answers :-/
[05:27] <thesheff17> though without tmpfs it is taking 10+ min
[05:27] <thesheff17> very terrible results :(
[05:29] <SpamapS> twb: huh? Puppet is very useful when you have 100 identical machines.. did you mean homogeneous?
[05:30] <SpamapS> in fact
[05:30] <SpamapS> thats sort of the point of puppet. ;)
[05:31] <SpamapS> if they all have different roles.. then its still very useful, but its more useful in keeping machines of the same role consistent.
[05:31] <twb> SpamapS: if you have 100 identical machines, then you can use a simpler solution like an SOE
[05:31] <twb> ...unless they have different roles, right
[05:31] <SpamapS> twb: SOE?
[05:31] <twb> standard operating environment
[05:32] <SpamapS> oh like a disk image?
[05:32] <SpamapS> those are a real bitch to update
[05:32] <twb> Yeah, basically.
[05:32] <thesheff17> yea I have heard people using puppet to manage both apt-get and yum
[05:32] <twb> Depends how you deploy it
[05:32] <SpamapS> I've used systemimager+puppet in the past to great ends.
[05:32] <twb> e.g. you could just have /usr shared read-only by the SAN
[05:33] <twb> That'd be the super-traditional way
[05:33] <SpamapS> SAN's are so old fashioned. ;)
[05:34] <thesheff17> my poor company doesn't have a san :(
[05:35] <SpamapS> puppet environments seem to thrive with a few classes of machines that are all 90% the same.. like, fast web servers, slow web servers, medium web servers, they're 90% the same but have slightly different configs and builds of apache.
[05:35] <SpamapS> thesheff17: well even if you could afford one, you'd be poor again after you bought the SAN. ;)
[05:35] <thesheff17> haha so true
[05:36] <SpamapS> because either a) it would be ridiculously expensive bankrupting you, or b) you'd spend too little, and it would fail, bringing on your own demise and subsequent poverty. ;)
[05:36] <SpamapS> hence the newer model of limiting exposure through independent, eventually consistent servers.
[05:37] <thesheff17> hopefully though...new capital soon which means new hardware :)
[05:37] <SpamapS> spend it on people
[05:37] <thesheff17> if you saw my hardware you would laugh
[05:37] <SpamapS> 1 rock star developer will save you 50 servers every 6 months. ;)
[05:37] <thesheff17> true
[05:38] <thesheff17> we did have an old IBM san that crashed running oracle
[05:38] <thesheff17> it was the worst week ever
[05:38] <twb> SpamapS: aren't rockstar devs drones, just like at EA?
[05:39] <thesheff17> usually good developers don't work for drones like EA
[05:40] <twb> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockstar_Games
[05:40] <SpamapS> twb: <chuckle>
[05:40] <SpamapS> even if they enter as great devs.
[05:40] <SpamapS> they leave as shells
[05:41] <twb> You mean like Dr. zsh?
[05:41] <twb> (http://cs-www.cs.yale.edu/homes/shao/)
[05:46] <thesheff17> ug now I'm getting AttributeError: 'Libvirt' object has no attribute 'vm' w/ the vmbuilder
[05:46] <thesheff17> still without tmpfs
[05:46] <thesheff17> giving up for tonight...will be back on in the morning...talk to everyone later
[05:48] <Dravekx> thesheff17, do you have a little time? this is where i get confused.
[05:48] <Dravekx> ok
[05:53] <Dravekx> anyone good with symlinks? or is that a different channel?
[06:02] <kaushal> hi
[06:02] <qwert> hi
[06:06] <Dravekx> I need some help with symlinks. if someone can help, can you please pm?
[06:06] <kaushal> qwert: hi
[06:06] <kaushal> is there a way to know what causes high wa on Ubuntu Server ?
[06:11] <kaushal> I mean high iowait
[06:12] <e_t_> Dravekx: what do you want to do?
[06:13] <SpamapS> kaushal: your programs are most likely just using the disk systems a lot. do you have 'sysstat' installed?
[06:15] <kaushal> SpamapS: let me look at it
[06:16] <kaushal> SpamapS: its installed
[06:17] <kaushal> sar,iostat and mpstat
[06:17] <kaushal> sar, iostat and mpstat - system performance tools for Linux
[06:22] <Dravekx> e_t_, :( I want to host websites from user home directories. BUT I want my home directory to be the main site.
[06:22] <SpamapS> kaushal: ok, sar -d .. does it show which disks are being used and how much?
[06:23] <SpamapS> Dravekx: maybe you want virtual hosts?
[06:23] <Dravekx> SpamapS, I think so. Im not sure. I'm reading about it now
[06:23] <SpamapS> Dravekx: do you want the webserver to use  servername/~username/   to find their content, or  userhostname/ ?
[06:26] <Dravekx> SpamapS, sort of I think. let me try the apache channel first. lol. I think it is more on subject. :)
[06:31] <qman__> :/
[06:31] <qman__> zip just hard crashed my file server
[06:31] <qman__> not even sysrq commands would work
[07:07] <kaushal> SpamapS: sar -d says Requested activities not available in file
[07:07] <kaushal> is there a way to alert it via email using sar ?
[07:26] <qewrt> i am currently working on LDAP, how do i flush the LDAP database?? ...help.....
[07:29] <darkk^> Is it possible to use whole unpartitioned disk in ubuntu-server installer as LVM PV?
[07:34] <joschi> darkk^: yes, it's possible
[07:46] <darkk^> joschi, how can I do that? I want to use vda as /boot and vdb for LVM, but installer does not allow me to use unpartitioned vda for /boot
[07:48] <joschi> darkk^: pvcreate /dev/vdb
[07:48] <joschi> darkk^: given that /dev/vdb is a block device
[07:49] <joschi> darkk^: I actually don't know if lvm works with virtio devices, but *real* devices (/dev/hd*, /dev/sd*) definitely work
[07:59] <darkk^> joschi, I tried to "pvcreate /dev/vdb" but installer says, that PV is used.
[08:01] <darkk^> seems, I should rather use debootstrap instead of installer :-)
[08:01] <joschi> darkk^: `pvdisplay` should show the device then. You could also try `dd if=/dev/zero of=PhysicalVolume bs=512 count=1` like mentioned in the man page of pvcreate
[08:08] <darkk^> pvdisplay displays pv and I've zeroed virtoio backend devices before using them - it's just installer. Though, it works after manual creation of vg, but still does not allow to use whole vda as /boot suggesting forcing me to use vda1 - but that's not a big deal.
[08:59] <rahman> Hi I cant connect mysql server from a remote machine. I get this "Lost connection to MySQL server at 'reading initial communication packet', system error: 111"
[09:06] <joschi> rahman: $ perror 111
[09:06] <joschi> OS error code 111:  Connection refused
[09:06] <joschi> rahman: have you set bind-address in your my.cnf? are you running a packet filter on the system which will block access to port 3306/tcp?
[09:10] <kaushal> hi
[09:10] <kaushal> can some one please guide me about the sar utility
[09:10] <kaushal> I have been following http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/identifying-linux-bottlenecks-sar-graphs-with-ksar.html
[09:10] <kaushal> basically i have logrotate application which runs at 1:00 am
[09:11] <kaushal> i need to gather reports using sar
[09:11] <kaushal> */10 * * * * root /usr/lib64/sa/sa1 1 1
[09:11] <kaushal> 53 23 * * * root /usr/lib64/sa/sa2 -A
[09:12] <kaushal> not sure i understand that
[09:12] <kaushal> basically i need to send sar report it to a specific team
[09:12] <kaushal> Please suggest
[09:37] <kaushal> can someone please guide me in helping about my query ?
[09:39] <RoAkSoAx> ttx: ping?
[09:40] <ttx> RoAkSoAx: pong
[09:40] <RoAkSoAx> ttx: maybe you can help me. Is it possible to backport a new upstream that makes use of DKMS. For example, DRBD? Since it registers to the kernel and stuff
[09:41] <ttx> RoAkSoAx: you mean, in -backports ? or as SRU ?
[09:41] <RoAkSoAx> ttx: what ever works
[09:42] <ttx> I think that change would be too big for SRU, but sounds like it would be possible to -backports it
[09:42] <RoAkSoAx> ttx: ok. Will look into itsince I know believe the DRBD kernel module is now included into the kernel that maverick uses
[09:43] <RoAkSoAx> and lucid will need to make use of DKMS
[09:53] <ttx> yay kosmic koala: bug 599910
[10:00] <RoAkSoAx> ttx: btw... would it be possible to backport if the one in maverick is not using DKMS and the one in lucid is. This means lots of changes are necessary for the lucid package
[10:01] <RoAkSoAx> because the maverick kernel includes the drbd module, so no need for dkms anymore
[10:02] <ttx> RoAkSoAx: I think that would still be acceptable for -backports
[10:03] <RoAkSoAx> ttx: ok than. Thanks!
[10:43] <Mateo_> Hello !
[10:43] <Iraq> Hello
[10:44] <Mateo_> does someone has already installed ebox (successfully) on his server please ? (on a 10.04)
[10:45] <Iraq> please how install file .tar.gz ? step by step and thank .... :)
[10:46] <Mateo_> a tar.gz file is not something to install, it's an archive
[10:46] <Iraq> i know
[10:46] <Iraq> but what i do after i downloaded
[10:46] <Iraq> example
[10:46] <joschi> Iraq: man tar
[10:47] <Iraq> this file Viha-WLanDriver-0.0.2.tar
[10:47] <Iraq> what must i do
[10:47] <Iraq> joschi i'm new user sorry i didn't
[10:47] <ikonia> Iraq: stop
[10:48] <ikonia> Iraq: you have been told where to get backtrack linux support
[10:48] <Iraq> :S
[10:48] <ikonia> if you continue with this you will be removed and banned from this channel also
[10:48] <Iraq> mateo : can you learn me step by step pleae
[10:49] <ikonia> Iraq: we do not support backtrack-linux in this channel - stop asking
 Iraq: please don't talk to me :S why you talk with me
[10:49] <ikonia> !ops | Iraq  banned from multiple ubuntu channels for backtrack support questions, now trying in -server
[10:49] <lifeless> Iraq: what linux are you using?
[10:50] <Iraq> just i want how install file .tar.gz
[10:50] <lifeless> Iraq: what linux are you using?
[10:50] <Iraq> back track 4 final
[10:51] <joschi> Iraq: again, read `man tar` which btw works on almost any linux distribution
[10:51] <Iraq> joschi iwrite man tar in terminal?
[10:51] <ikonia> joschi: we do not support backtrack here
[10:51] <Iraq> i write *
[10:51] <ikonia> !ops | Iraq again with backtrack linux support questions
[10:51] <Iraq> ikonia he help me why you jealoes
[10:52] <Iraq> Jealos
[10:53] <Iraq> jochi when i write it please
[10:53] <ikonia> stop now
[10:53] <lifeless> ikonia: isn't backtrack an ubuntu derivative?
[10:53] <Iraq> joschi*
[10:53] <ikonia> lifeless: that is not supported by the ubuntu community and has it's own channel which Iraq is banned from
[10:53] <Iraq> agree lifeless :)
[10:54] <ikonia> we are not here to pickup the slack of other channels or assist users who are banned from the official support channels
[10:54] <lifeless> ikonia: neither are we here to insult other channels and not answer reasonable questions :). A little tolerance might help. It might not, but it might.
[10:54] <ikonia> lifeless: check the channels policy
[10:54] <ikonia> lifeless: asking someone to stop is not insluting them
[10:55] <lifeless> Iraq: the qyestion you are asking is very basic and I suspect you will have more. Have you considered reading some of the starter guides that are around ?
[10:55] <lifeless> ikonia: calling other channels slack is on the line, in my opinion.
[10:55] <Iraq> i didn't asked to learn me how run back track i asked something joker in all OS using windows and linux is arichef file not software so any thing joker can ask in all thing can run like car
[10:55] <ikonia> lifeless: if he has an issue with backtrack it should be taken to the backtrack support channel, if he is banned from the backtrack support channel that is someething he needs to resolve
[10:55] <Iraq> if you have car
[10:55] <ikonia> lifeless: I didn't call them slack, I said picking up the slack of another channel
[10:55] <Iraq> can drive in all place you go
[10:55] <ikonia> Iraq: this is not up for discussion - stop now
[10:56] <Iraq> so when you drive a car when go other plcace will buy new car
[10:56] <Iraq> please be science
[10:56] <lifeless> Iraq: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/softinstall.html may help you.
[10:56] <ikonia> lifeless: please stop supporting this now
[10:57] <Iraq> is step by step?
[10:57] <ikonia> !ops
[10:57] <lifeless> ikonia: frankly, you are being more disruptive than Iraq.
[10:57] <lifeless> Iraq: please go read it, I think it will help you.
[10:57] <Iraq> give me link learn step by step please
[10:57] <ikonia> lifeless: there will be no disruption if you stop supporting this
[10:57] <Iraq> i opening it please wait
[10:58] <Iraq> wait i try it
[10:58] <lifeless> Iraq: if it does not work, I recommend getting in contact with the people that supplied the tar.gz to you.
[10:59] <lifeless> We don't know what is inside it, so we can't help you further.
[10:59] <Iraq> is show error
[10:59] <Iraq> look
[10:59] <ikonia> stop now
[10:59] <Iraq> root@bt:~# tar xvzf Viha-WLanDriver-0.0.2.tar
[10:59] <Iraq> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[10:59] <Iraq> tar: Child returned status 1
[10:59] <Iraq> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[10:59] <ikonia> take it to the correct support place
[11:00] <Iraq> in all file this happen with me
[11:01] <Iraq> lifeless in windows we extra .exe to programe file so in linux what file system and where is  put on this file with it
[11:01] <Iraq> i mean in which folder
[11:02] <huats> morning
[11:02] <lifeless> Iraq: It will depend on the software. This is why you need to speak to whoever gave you the software.
[11:02] <Iraq> morning too
[11:02] <lifeless> Iraq: We don't have enough information to help you.
[11:02] <ikonia> lifeless: can you please stop this and respect the channels topic
[11:03] <Iraq> human respect who  help not follow rules make people need help
[11:03] <ikonia> take it to a pm if you instistn on hlping
[11:03] <ikonia> helping even
[11:04] <Mateo_> how boring ...
[11:04] <Iraq> i will make channel support all thing just wait
[11:05] <lifeless> Iraq: I've given you what help I can; you need to speak to whoever you are getting the tar file from. Its the third time I've said that, and I'm not going to say it again - repeating myself gets boring :)
[11:06] <Iraq> lifeless give me any file you know it and i will download it then tell me what i do just one time i learn then i will know it
[11:07] <Iraq> lifeless be helpful in all channel banned me you be sweet heart and help me
[11:07] <Iraq> ikonia target banned me here
[11:07] <tsimpson> Iraq: you have been told where to ask
[11:07] <Iraq> mean?
[11:08] <Iraq> that now two target banned me
[11:08] <tsimpson> you need to ask whoever made the tar
[11:08] <tsimpson> or read instruction on whatever website you got it from
[11:08] <Iraq> is from frog
[11:08] <Iraq> frog is just for development
[11:08] <Iraq> soucer.frog
[11:08] <Iraq> .com
[11:09] <tsimpson> then you should ask them
[11:09] <tsimpson> we can't give you support for something we know nothing about
[11:09] <Iraq> is web site developmenet not forum or wiki
[11:09] <Iraq> i said any file but be .tar.gz
[11:09] <tsimpson> we can not help you
[11:10] <Iraq> i will wait some one can help :)
[11:10] <tsimpson> no one here can, you need to find a way to contact the people who made the file
[11:10] <ikonia> this channel is not here to support backtrack-lilnux - what part of that is not clear
[11:11] <ikonia> if you are banned from backtrack-linux - contact them to resolve it
[11:11] <ikonia> ubuntu-server is not here to support backtrack-linux
[11:11] <Iraq> ikonia go check list banned back track then come talk please
[11:11] <ikonia> no - YOU solve that
[11:11] <ikonia> this channel is for ubuntu-server discussion and support
[11:12] <Iraq> again i will remeber you  channel #club-ubuntu <ikonia> Iraq: please don't talk to m
[11:12] <tsimpson> Iraq: that has nothing to do with what you are asking
[11:12] <tsimpson> you have been told that we can not help you here
[11:12] <Iraq> R: <Iraq> i will wait some one can help :) so please leave me alone
[11:13] <tsimpson> Iraq: I'll say this one last time, no one here can help you with something we know nothing about
[11:14] <Iraq> i know you both target banning me  :)
[11:15] <tsimpson> Iraq: I have not banned you
[11:15] <Iraq> so blocked me one thing not different
[11:16] <tsimpson> Iraq: I suggest you ask for support from those who can give it, not here
[11:16] <Iraq> lifeless from this site sourceforge.net
[11:16] <Iraq> lifeless was helping me but you are jealos stoped him
[11:17] <tsimpson> Iraq: no, they told you they can't help, read back
[11:17] <Iraq> if in first time lifelee helped me i was left channel before long time but you are just talk
[11:18] <tsimpson> I asked
[11:29] <rahman> Bind dns gives this: query (cache) 'sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/A/IN' denied for all computers. But it resolves the addresses for on local machine. it also resolve our artvin.edu.tr zone. So something wrong with forwarding? Here are config files: named.conf.local http://pastebin.com/6w5V5rZ6
[11:30] <_ruben> that config snippet isnt complete
[11:30] <_ruben> it doesnt contain the recursion settings for instance
[11:30] <_ruben> named.conf is important aswell
[11:36] <rahman> there is only 2 include statements in named.conf; one for named.conf.local and one for named.conf.options: http://pastebin.com/3K8miUWN
[11:37] <rahman> _ruben: ^
[11:37] <_ruben> rahman: and you want local machines to be able to resolve external domains?
[11:38] <rahman> _ruben: yes, how can I make bind to allow others to resolve external domains?
[11:40] <rahman> _ruben: don't understand why allow-query {any;}; didn't do the trick
[11:40] <_ruben> add "allow-recursion { 192.168.0.0/24; };" to named.conf.options (within the options{} block)
[11:40] <_ruben> replace with the apropriate subnet ofcourse
[11:41] <_ruben> or "any" if you want to have it accessible by anyone
[11:45] <rahman> _ruben: you saved my day, thanks :)
[11:46] <_ruben> you're welcome
[11:46] <_ruben> allow-query only controls requests to domains hosted on the dns server itself btw
[11:47] <rahman> _ruben: Ok thanks for the info
[12:18] <ScottK> ttx: Thanks for taking care of the pyyaml rebuild while I was sleeping.
[12:19] <Mateo_> Anyone that is used to work with ebox please ?
[12:19] <Mateo_> i would like to install it properly but i don't knwo some config that i should set ...
[12:19] <Mateo_> like actually, it's asking me for the LDAP server to use
[12:20] <Mateo_> is that my ip adress ?
[12:26] <ttx> ScottK: you're welcome :)
[12:31] <kaushal> hi
[12:31] <kaushal> can i put this line 5-55/10 * * * * root [ -x /usr/lib/sysstat/sa1 ] && { [ -r "$DEFAULT" ] && . "$DEFAULT" ; [ "$ENABLED" = "true" ] && exec /usr/lib/sysstat/sa1 $SA1_OPTIONS 1 1 ; } in fcrontab ?
[12:43] <ikonia> kaushal: an impressive entry
[12:46] <_ruben> interesting .. 6in4 tunnels get an ipv6 link localaddress with a /128 mask .. it does fe80::<ipv4-in-hex>/128 instead of the usual fe80::<eui64>/64
[12:46] <kaushal> ikonia: is that correct ?
[12:46] <ikonia> it looks good
[12:46] <ikonia> assuming your variables are defined elsewhere
[12:47] <ikonia> (or you replace the variables with genuine arguments)
[13:00] <sanderj> Hi. Anyone have some guidelines to upgrade from ubuntu 9.10 to 10.04 ?
[13:04] <thesheff17> sanderj desktop or server version?  I'm assuming server version?
[13:04] <sanderj> thesheff17, server, yes.
[13:05] <thesheff17> http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[13:06] <thesheff17> at the bottom it says network upgrad efor ubunt uservers recommended
[13:06] <thesheff17> I haven't used it myself but I have use upgraded all my desktop with the GUI with no problem....even when it was still in Beta it worked fine
[13:07] <sanderj> nice..
[13:09] <cjs> An md device is supposed to be within a partition on a disk, right? So why would mdamd -D /dev/md1 tell me that it's using /dev/sda and /dev/sdb, rather than /dev/sda2 and /dev/sdb2?
[13:10] <thesheff17> weird cjs
[13:10] <thesheff17> cat /proc/mdadm
[13:11] <thesheff17> what does that say?
[13:11] <zul> morning
[13:11] <cjs> So with the 10.4 installer  I created two partitions (a small one for boot, a large one for the rest) on each disk, and marked them as md partitions. Now it appears that it thinks that sda, sda1 and sda2 (and the counterparts on sdb) are all md partitions.
[13:12] <cjs> md0 : inactive md1p1[1](S)
[13:12] <cjs>       123840 blocks
[13:12] <cjs>        
[13:12] <cjs> md1 : active raid1 sdb[1] sda[0]
[13:12] <cjs>       488261568 blocks [2/2] [UU]
[13:12] <thesheff17> wow strange
[13:12] <cjs> And /dev/md1 has a partition table, according to fdisk.
[13:13] <thesheff17> here is mine on small raid 1 system:
[13:13] <thesheff17> md0 : active raid1 sdb1[1] sda1[0]
[13:13] <thesheff17>       498624 blocks [2/2] [UU]
[13:13] <thesheff17>       
[13:13] <thesheff17> md1 : active raid1 sdb2[1] sda2[0]
[13:13] <thesheff17>       1952704 blocks [2/2] [UU]
[13:13] <thesheff17>       
[13:13] <thesheff17> md2 : active raid1 sdb3[1] sda3[0]
[13:13] <thesheff17>       730121152 blocks [2/2] [UU]
[13:13] <thesheff17> I don't know why it would try to use the /dev/sda or /dev/sdb
[13:13] <thesheff17> directly
[13:13] <cjs> But it's showing the same partitions lengths on both sda and md1.
[13:13] <thesheff17> when you do fdisk -l
[13:14] <thesheff17> you see all of them Linux raid autodetect
[13:14] <cjs> Well, the installer seemed to be fine with creating separate mds for boot and root on a pair of 2TB drives with GPT partitions, but on these smaller 500 GB drives, it didn't like that.
[13:15] <cjs> thesheff17: Yes, fdisk -l shows me partition tables for sda, sdb and md0.
[13:15] <thesheff17> yea I always have done a 512 /boot/ and then put the rest on /
[13:15] <cjs> thesheff17: Your arrangement looks like the one I was trying to create. What version of ubuntu are you running?
[13:16] <thesheff17> 10.04 64 bit
[13:16] <pmatulis> thesheff17: please don't paste that much stuff in here
[13:16] <cjs> Me too. Exactly the same.
[13:16] <thesheff17> sure sorry
[13:16] <cjs> pmatulis: Sorry, I started it. I'll use a paste site from now on.
[13:17] <cjs> Hm. Well, I'm a bit nervous about putting a server into production with such a screwed up partitioning arrangement.
[13:17] <thesheff17> one thing I do run into is having old raid stuff around during the install...I used gparted to completely wipe every drive prior to installing ubuntu.
[13:17] <cjs> Perhaps I should just wipe it and try another install. Though wiping these disks has not proven to be easy.
[13:17] <cjs> Yeah, I saw that when I tried my second install on these disks.
[13:17] <thesheff17> yea use gparted to clean the drives
[13:18] <cjs> Ah. I was just using dd over the first gig or so of the disk. But that doesn't appear to do it.
[13:19] <thesheff17> well dd just cleans the data right?
[13:19] <cjs> What exactly did you do with gparted? I have only parted available at the moment.
[13:19] <cjs> Right, dd'd /dev/zero over the first gig or so. However, I'm guessing that there are backup copies of the RAID info kept elsewhere on the disk, maybe near the end, I've heard.
[13:19] <thesheff17> gparted boots and you can remove every partition and write the changes to disk...I have had tons of problems with old mdadm sitting around when redoing machines
[13:21] <thesheff17> if you want to run dd after you use gparted to wipe data that is fine
[13:22] <thesheff17> sorry very new to the bug system...if the bug says the fix committed....is there a time frame when that will make it into the us.archive.ubuntu.com reop?
[13:24] <cjs> thesheff17: So you just deleted all the partitions in gparted, and that removed all raid info, too?
[13:25] <thesheff17> yes
[13:25] <thesheff17> that is what I have the most luck with
[13:25] <thesheff17> and I create a /boot/ raid1 w/ 512MB
[13:25] <thesheff17> and then put the rest on / w/ raid1
[13:25] <thesheff17> and of course swap
[13:26] <thesheff17> I haven't tried in years to do it all under /....when I started with ubuntu 6.04 that was the only way I could get it to work....lots of trial and error
[13:27] <cjs> So you use three mds, one for boot, one for root, one for swap?
[13:27] <thesheff17> yes
[13:27] <cjs> I use just two, one for boot, and the other for an LVM volume group that contains everything else.
[13:28] <pmatulis> thesheff17: 'fix committed' means it is awaiting verification before being made available to the public
[13:28] <thesheff17> ah ok...is there anyway I can use the patch now?
[13:29] <pmatulis> thesheff17: you can gain immediate access to those fixes by using the -proposed repository.  use with care
[13:29] <pmatulis> thesheff17: as you don't want to do a system-wide upgrade and pull in *all* those fixes
[13:29] <thesheff17> excellent thank you...yea not sure if anyone uses vmbuilder...but the tmpfs builds the images in RAM in seconds compared to the 10+ min on the hard drive and it is driving me crazy :)
[13:30] <thesheff17> and tmpfs it what is broken
[13:30] <pmatulis> thesheff17: bug number?
[13:31] <thesheff17> 536940
[13:31] <pmatulis> bug #536940
[13:31] <thesheff17> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vm-builder/+bug/536940
[13:31] <thesheff17> oh wow
[13:31] <pmatulis> yeah
[13:33] <cjs> Grrr. Ubuntu installer doesn't even have parted, only fdisk.
[13:33] <thesheff17> yea the installer is very limited on the commands
[13:36] <cjs> Ok, yes. the issue is that there's an md info block at the end of the disk. After removing the partitions with fdisk, "mdadm -Q /dev/sda" still found an md device. After copying zeros over the first gig of the disk, mdadm still saw it. After copying zeros over the last meg or so of the disk, mdadm -Q /dev/sda now thinks that /dev/sda is not an md device.
[13:36] <cjs> Phew!
[13:36] <thesheff17> hehe nice
[13:38] <thesheff17> pmatulis: is there any easy way to add the proposed repo?  of course I have a local repo so that makes it is a little harder but I have no problem changing my /etc/source.list just to get that patch
[13:38] <zul> ttx: ill take the i386 iso tests
[13:38] <ttx> zul: I'm doing a few of them as smoketesting, marked them "started"
[13:38] <zul> k
[13:38] <pmatulis> thesheff17: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed
[13:39] <thesheff17> thx
[13:40] <ttx> Daviey: could you verify that the A2 candidate UEC install is not broken to the point of requiring a respin ?
[13:40] <cjs> I still have no idea why I had such trouble setting up two MDs, but I'll just go with one, since 10.04 appears to boot fine from an LVM partition anyway.
[13:41] <Daviey> ttx: When was the ISO generated?
[13:41] <ttx> Daviey: a couple hours ago
[13:41] <ttx> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/4249/494
[13:42] <Daviey> ttx: Okay, great - so that has the new package from last night?
[13:42] <ttx> Daviey: that should, doublecheck with the .list file
[13:43] <Daviey> ttx: Okay.. For this smoke test - do i need to do it from iso, or would a netboot install of current archive be suitable?
[13:43] <ttx> Daviey: ISO
[13:43] <Daviey> pah. :(
[13:43] <Daviey> ok
[13:44] <ttx> Daviey: We are testing that the ISO works, not that the current archive state works
[13:45] <lostdeveloper> Hi Ubuntus
[13:45] <ttx> Daviey: Following the instructions, you should run into the kernel bug -- then mark that one as a serious bug, apply PPA, and mark test as PASS if everything else is ok
[13:45] <thesheff17> I did sudo aptitude install vmbuilder/lucid-proposed
[13:46] <thesheff17> and it told me there are no packages that match that
[13:46] <Daviey> ttx: Am i actually doing the A2 test, or just doing a smoke test?
[13:46] <ttx> you're doing the A2 test.
[13:47] <ttx> Daviey: I just want to catch the kitten killer before we've run most of the other tests
[13:47] <Daviey> ttx: Ah, i didn't realise i'd be doing that today - assumed it would be tommorrow
[13:47] <Daviey> oic
[13:47] <ttx> Daviey: you can cover the optional tests tomorrow
[13:47] <ttx> Daviey: ISo testing should occur on Tuesday/Wednesday, more than on Thursday
[13:48] <Daviey> ttx: OK, i'll have results in ~1 hr.
[13:48] <ttx> Daviey: great !
[13:48] <pmatulis> thesheff17: your command is wrong but even so, why do you say vmbuilder code is in -proposed?
[13:49] <sommer> morning
[13:50] <thesheff17> hmm....I was trying to use sudo aptitude install packagename/lucid-proposed from the site you gave me
[13:50] <pmatulis> thesheff17: your command is wrong but even so, why do you say vmbuilder code is in -proposed?
[13:50] <sanderj> When I try to upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04 I get: Failed to fetch http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/kernel-package/kernel-package_12.032_all.deb  404 Not Found [IP: 130.239.18.173 80]
[13:51] <sanderj> Do I need some changes in my source list?
[13:52] <sanderj> http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/kernel-package/ <-- Seems like its the wrong version ubuntu tried to fetch.. 032 instead of 33.
[13:53] <thesheff17> pmatulis: I'm trying to get just get the latest vmbuilder...how do I know what package that it is in?  I also tried  sudo aptitude install ubuntu-vm-builder/lucid-proposed
[13:53] <pmatulis> thesheff17: best is to determine first whether there is something you want in -proposed and *then* get it
[13:54] <pmatulis> thesheff17: it's 'python-vm-builder' and you should be doing an update if it's currently installed
[13:54] <thesheff17> pmatulis: yea I need that tmpfs parameter to work for vmbuilder
[13:54] <pmatulis> thesheff17: well, i don't see anything in -proposed that will help
[13:55] <Daviey> hggdh: Hello sir!  Are you able to (redo) the tests for euca lucid with the -proposed repo enabled? :)
[13:55] <thesheff17> so this bug 536940 isn't in propsed yet?
[13:55] <thesheff17> sorry very new to the bug system
[13:55] <hggdh> Daviey: good morning, yes, most certainly
[13:55] <pmatulis> thesheff17: 'fix committed' means it is awaiting verification before being made available to the public
[13:56] <pmatulis> thesheff17: it's status is 'confirmed'
[13:56] <Daviey> hggdh: You are my rock star of the week!
[13:56] <thesheff17> so I have to wait?
[13:56] <pmatulis> thesheff17: not 'fix committed'
[13:56] <pmatulis> thesheff17: yes
[13:56] <sanderj> Do anyone know why I get fetch fail (of kernel) when upgrading ubuntu server?
[13:58] <zul> jdstrand: ping have you seen this before? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/457354/
[13:58] <zul> Daviey: I feel used ;)
[14:00] <jdstrand> zul: what kernel?
[14:00] <Daviey> zul: good!
[14:00] <pmatulis> sanderj: try another mirror
[14:00] <kirkland> hallyn: re: Bug 588293, looks like we should push an SRU...  I'll sponsor a package if you can update your PPA one to lucid-proposed, etc.
[14:00] <sanderj> pmatulis, I've tried both .se and .no now.
[14:00] <zul> jdstrand: chuck@kenny:/etc/init$ uname -a
[14:00] <zul> Linux kenny 2.6.35-6-generic #8-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 28 04:15:52 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:01] <pmatulis> sanderj: also, 'kernel-package_12.032_all.deb' doesn't look right
[14:01] <zul> jdstrand: 6.8 i think
[14:01] <kirkland> hallyn: is  lp:~serge-hallyn/ubuntu/lucid/qemu-kvm/memleak-fix correct/uptodate?
[14:01] <jdstrand> zul: that kernel has an apparmor bug. do you see any denied messages in the log?
[14:01] <sanderj> pmatulis, even the .us archive got the 032 package
[14:01] <pmatulis> sanderj: so use the us mirror
[14:01] <zul> jdstrand: yep
[14:02] <jdstrand> zul: getattr?
[14:02] <zul> Daviey: still weird and still chipper for the morning
[14:02] <zul> jdstrand: yep :)
[14:02] <Daviey> zul: I'm more than half way through my day, that is why :)
[14:02] <jpds> sanderj: Do you want to built a kernel package?
[14:03] <sanderj> jpds, not really.. but I did it earlier.
[14:03]  * jdstrand is looking for the bug
[14:04] <jdstrand> zul: bug #599450
[14:04] <zul> jdstrand: gotcha thanks
[14:06] <jpds> sanderj: Have you ran apt-get update recently?
[14:07] <sanderj> jpds, yes.
[14:07] <sanderj> jpds, works now..after I added the .us mirror.
[14:07] <smoser> ttx, ping
[14:08] <cjs> Wow. Ubuntu server doesn't install mdadm by default on a system using mds.
[14:08] <jpds> cjs: Yes; not everyone uses software RAID.
[14:08] <cjs> Oh, never mind. I was looking in the wrong window. :-)
[14:08] <cjs> It does. (I was talking about a system that is using software RAID.)
[14:09] <jpds> sanderj: I'm slightly worried about what happened to the 12.032 package on the Swedish mirror.
[14:09] <pmatulis> cjs: what is mds?
[14:09] <sanderj> jpds, same thing on both .se and .no mirror.
[14:09] <jpds> sanderj: Yes; .no syncs from .se.
[14:09] <cjs> pmatulis: /dev/md0, etc. RAID partitions.
[14:09] <sanderj> ok
[14:09] <ttx> smoser: pong
[14:09] <jpds> sanderj: Let me ask around.
[14:10] <smoser> see my recent comments in ubuntu-release
[14:10] <cjs> Ok, so the darn thing says that /dev/md0 is on /dev/sda and /dev/sdb, not /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1. What's up with that?
[14:10] <sanderj> :-)
[14:10] <cjs> (This is after a fresh 10.04 install.)
[14:10] <ttx> smoser: 6 hours ??
[14:10] <smoser> ap-southeast-1 is a pain
[14:11] <smoser> latency/bandwidth and inavailability
[14:11] <smoser> the builds are done
[14:11] <smoser> its the publish process that takes so long
[14:11] <smoser> just getting data there.
[14:11] <smoser> i started a TODO on the publishing scripts with a goal to reduce that time.
[14:13] <sanderj> nnnN
[14:13] <sanderj> ops
[14:14] <zul> hey smoser
[14:14] <smoser> hey
[14:14] <smoser> ttx, the 20100629 builds did test well, though. other than that landscape client bug.  it prints a stack trace to the serial console (which is annoying) and is completely broken for landscape-client. but other than that , meh
[14:16] <thesheff17> cjs I would try to clear all partions with gparted and see if you have the same results.
[14:16] <ttx> smoser: landscape-client should be fixed now
[14:16] <smoser> it is. yes.
[14:17] <smoser> i'm saying, that as a fallback, the 20100629 is usable with that one known bug
[14:17] <smoser> i have no other reason to call them unusable
[14:17] <smoser> ie, no other reason to wait on 20100630.1
[14:17] <smoser> unless you or other people do
[14:17] <cjs> thesheff17: Well, I think I'm going to live with this, since it's about my fifth install of the system, and I'm getting pretty sick of it by now.
[14:18] <cjs> And this first came up after the last install, before which I'd wiped the entire disk with zeros.
[14:18] <cjs> (Both of them.)
[14:19] <thesheff17> hehe I know the feeling
[14:23] <lostdeveloper> Guys am new in Ubuntu Server, witch command to collect all system information?
[14:24] <lostdeveloper> sh ??????-support ????
[14:24] <Jeeves_> 'all' ?
[14:24] <foo> Can anyone make sense of this? Is my drive going bad? Hmph. http://pastebin.com/wnse8My4 thanks
[14:25] <Jeeves_> Define 'all'
[14:25] <Jeeves_> Do you want to see hardware? 'dmidecode' might show you a lot.
[14:25] <Jeeves_> or 'lspci'
[14:25] <ttx> smoser: if you smoketested the 20100629 and they went alright, then we can wait 6 hours
[14:25] <pmatulis> lostdeveloper: lshw
[14:25] <ttx> smoser: it's not as if we had completely no clue if they were bootable
[14:25] <smoser> and cross fingers that we get availability on ap-southeast-1 when it tries to launch an instance there.
[14:25] <lostdeveloper> this all mean everything
[14:25] <smoser> thats the big thing.
[14:26] <lostdeveloper> tell me some
[14:26] <lostdeveloper> can i use mirc inside my ubuntu? am feeling lost using windows to mirc
[14:26] <cjs> lostdeveloper: The Chef configuration management system (I believe in the chef-client package) includes a command that spits out all sorts of wonderful information.
[14:26] <Jeeves_> lostdeveloper: 'all' is the same as 'everything'
[14:26] <Jeeves_> And still, it is unclear what that means
[14:27] <cjs> lostdeveloper: I presume you want to know things such as how the partition tables on the disks are configured, CPU type and stepping, all that sort of thing?
[14:27] <lostdeveloper> is a command to collect informations about hardware, services, users etc.
[14:28] <lostdeveloper> a full report
[14:28] <Jeeves_> lostdeveloper: No
[14:28] <ttx> smoser: the key problem in delivering cloud images so late is to get the UEC images tested in UEC
[14:28] <Jeeves_> But lshw and dmidecode show you what hardware you have
[14:28] <Jeeves_>  /etc/passwd shows you which users there are
[14:28] <ttx> smoser: given the time you'll have to sync with kirkland/ccheney/hggdh, or do it yourself on a Lucid UEC
[14:28] <smoser> well, i can test 20100629 on lucid UEC
[14:29] <Jeeves_>  'ps uax' shows you which processes are running
[14:29] <ttx> smoser: that's how it should be done anyway (on a Lucid UEC)
[14:29] <smoser> and i can make the 20100630.1 publicly available for download
[14:29] <smoser> before it gets all the way loaded.
[14:29] <smoser> my lucid UEC is no longer pristine as i've been playing with virtio, but i can get it back there.
[14:30] <Jeeves_> smoser: This cloud thing, that runs *inside* kvm as well, right? So I can create a vm which runs the cloud software and contains some instances?
[14:30] <smoser> Jeeves_, for test purposes, yes.
[14:30] <lostdeveloper> thank you
[14:30] <lostdeveloper> but
[14:30] <smoser> performance is abysmal
[14:31] <smoser> Jeeves_, if you just want to try it out *really easily* : http://ubuntu-smoser.blogspot.com/2010/05/easily-test-or-demo-ubuntu-enterprise.html
[14:31] <lostdeveloper> some times i saw a screen scroling with a lot of informations, and the guy said that he was collecting system information
[14:31] <lostdeveloper> and the command was
[14:31] <lostdeveloper> sh [forgot]-support password
[14:32] <lostdeveloper> I can't remember the word to use in forgot place
[14:32] <lostdeveloper> **
[14:32] <Jeeves_> smoser: Thanks
[14:33] <Jeeves_> lostdeveloper: And that's on Ubuntu?
[14:34] <lostdeveloper> sorry but, a don't know i was just passing by
[14:36] <Jeeves_> lostdeveloper: It might be a distribution-specific comman
[14:37] <lostdeveloper> ok tx
[14:37] <cjs>  So I've got a running system with an md RAID1 config, and I've just dropped in the disks from an old system that was the same. However, that second MD didn't come up automatically. What do I need to do here? Update the /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf file or whatever?
[14:39] <cjs> mdamd --auto-detect brings in the array on the second pair of disks, but how do I get this to happen on boot?
[14:42] <Jeeves_> cjs: Add the uuid to /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
[14:42] <Jeeves_> That should help
[14:42] <cjs> Worth a try.
[14:43] <lostdeveloper> Ok guys keep cool, i've to do some PHP scripts, see u later
[14:44] <cjs> Jeeves_: That did the trick. Thanks.
[14:57] <hggdh> Daviey: the new eucalyptus packages did not yet get built, riht?
[15:04] <Daviey> hggdh: hmm, they have
[15:04] <Daviey> hggdh: i'm checking now
[15:04] <hggdh> Daviey: at least they are not in lucid-proposed yet
[15:05] <rapha> guys
[15:05] <rapha> i messed up
[15:05] <rapha> major
[15:05] <Daviey> hggdh: Hmm.. it finished building an hour ago :S
[15:06] <hallyn> kirkland: (oops, sorry, didn't notice your msgs - i should hook up a bell or something)
[15:07] <Daviey> hggdh: Ok.. it's not yet on the mirrors
[15:08] <Daviey> jpds: Happen to know when the next publish run will happen?
[15:08] <jpds> It's happening now.
[15:09] <kirkland> hallyn: tis okay;  i've uploaded qemu-kvm
[15:09] <kirkland> hallyn: don't we have a libvirt memleak in progress too?
[15:10] <hallyn> kirkland: not sure - i think someone suspected libvirt for this one
[15:10] <jpds> Daviey: 1.6.2-0ubuntu30.3 ?
[15:11] <Daviey> jpds: yah
[15:11] <jpds> Already on the archive.
[15:11] <hallyn> kirkland: i don't see any memleaks in the libvirt list
[15:12] <kirkland> hallyn: hmmf, okay
[15:12] <Daviey> jpds: on a.u.c ?
[15:12] <jpds> Daviey: gb.a.u.c
[15:12] <jpds> [and friends].
[15:12] <hallyn> kirkland: 591610 was suspected to be libvirt
[15:13] <Mateo_> Hey :)
[15:13] <hallyn> but apparently was qemu
[15:13] <Daviey> jpds: Ah.. not much good to me.. i spoof the dns for that :/ .. it's for hggdh, which i assume is using a.u.c
[15:13] <jpds> hggdh: The .debs are on the archive.u.c; can you check?
[15:13] <kirkland> hallyn: okay, thanks
[15:14] <Daviey> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/e/eucalyptus/?C=M;O=D
[15:14] <hggdh> jpds: doing it now
[15:15] <Mateo_> I have a You don't have permission to access / on this server. I think that i have to chmod my /var/www folder, but what is the best right to give please ?
[15:17] <hggdh> jpds, Daviey: yes, they are there. I will install them now, thanks
[15:19] <Daviey> \o/
[15:20] <hggdh> heh. Right now it is just downgrading the euca packages ;-)
[15:24] <Daviey> ttx: current server iso fails to install.
[15:24] <ttx> Daviey: UEC mode ?
[15:26] <Daviey> ttx: yeah
[15:26] <Daviey> uit's the python-yaml bug
[15:26] <ttx> Daviey: fails how/when/why ?
[15:26] <Daviey> ttx: pkgsel during installation
[15:26] <ttx> are you using the right iso ?
[15:26] <ttx> was fixed in the current one
[15:26] <Daviey> ttx: i'm using the iso link to, from the QA page
[15:27] <Daviey> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/4249/494
[15:27] <crb> 'lo
[15:27] <Daviey> ttx: ^^ the one linked to on that page
[15:28] <crb> Any HA people here?  I'm interested in a multi-master cluster FS for Ubuntu on EC2.
[15:28] <crb> So far, been playing with GlusterFS and ocfs2/drbd.
[15:28] <crb> (both have their pros and cons)
[15:28] <ttx> Daviey: that's very strange. You checked the md5sum for your ISO ?
[15:29] <ttx> Daviey: that bug hit the regular server install as well
[15:29] <Daviey> ttx: i can do
[15:29] <Daviey> ttx: i saw :)
[15:29] <ttx> Daviey: and was fixed in 20100630.1
[15:29] <ttx> so I can't see why it would still affect the UEC mode, it's the same CD contents
[15:30] <Daviey> ttx: agreed...
[15:30] <Daviey> but this iso was freshly downloaded..
[15:30] <Daviey> generating md5sum
[15:30] <Daviey> ttx: 1908a53db7a727a1be65254fdf67ae9b  maverick-server-amd64.iso
[15:31] <ttx> hm.
[15:31]  * ttx is surprised
[15:31] <Daviey> ttx: same as yours?
[15:32]  * ttx tries to reproduce
[15:33] <ttx> Daviey: yes, that md5sum looks ok to me
[15:34]  * ttx fires up a UEC install
[15:38] <Daviey> ttx: see -release
[15:45] <jpds> sanderj: package should now be on the .se mirror.
[15:46] <rapha> i rm -rf'd /etc and trying to repair it now
[15:46] <rapha> why does "service postfix restart" work, but "service dovecot restart" not? - what files might i be missing?
[15:49] <lamont> rapha /etc/init would be a start
[15:49] <lamont> rapha: and the best approach is to go fetch the backup and start comparing....
[15:50] <rapha> lamont: yeah, if i had one ... server's a week old, didnt get to setting up backups for /etc yet
[15:51] <rapha> well, purging the services in question and reinstalling them should helo
[15:51] <rapha> help*
[15:51] <SuperLag> ttx: UEC?
[15:51] <lamont> yeah - if it's that recent an install, I'd be more inclined to go with the "save the stuff I know I changed elsewhere, and flatline it" approach
[15:53] <Mateo_> dammit, i still have the You don't have permission to access / on this server. error... i check permission, chmod, everything looks right, what can i check please ?
[15:53] <rapha> lamont: i'd love to reinstall it entirely, but that would mean services would be offline for too long. can't do that unfortunately :-(
[15:54] <lamont> ouch
[15:55] <ttx> zul: we should have a new ISO up in a few
[15:55] <ttx> so you can suspend ISo testing
[15:56] <zul> er...what?
[15:56] <rapha> lamont: one thing that cuases me a headache is that the "lilo" package was install, and the grub-pc package as well. now i've no idea of knowing which one was used for booting the system :-/
[15:57] <ttx> zul: UEC installer is fucked up in the current ISO
[15:57] <zul> ttx: why the respin?
[15:57] <rapha> lamont: i've purged mysql-*, but upon reinstall i don't seem to be getting a new /etc/init.d/mysql ... any idea?
[16:01] <rapha> Setting up mysql-server-5.1 (5.1.41-3ubuntu12.3) ...
[16:01] <rapha> status: Unknown job: mysql
[16:02] <lamont> Ralfi: "unknown job" points to /etc/init
[16:04] <rapha> lamont: okay, i do have a mysql.conf in there ... seems to have come with mysql-server ... what might upstart still be missing?
[16:04] <lamont> dunno
[16:04] <Mateo_> please, still anyone that could give me some advices ?
[16:05] <Mateo_>  i have the You don't have permission to access / on this server. error... i check permission, chmod, everything looks right, what can i check please ?
[16:05] <ttx> mathiaz, zul, spamaps, hallyn: we'll have a server ISO respin available in 75 min, please try to cover as many tests as you can (non-UEC server tests, and server upgrades)
[16:05] <lamont> rapha: debootstrap a chroot, install all your packages in there, and then compare that /etc to yours?
[16:05] <rapha> lamont: good idea
[16:06] <ttx> kirkland, Daviey, ccheney: same thing for the Server ISO/UEC tests (in 75 min) + the UEC cloud images (in about 3 hours)
[16:07] <ttx> smoser: and you cover the EC2 tests.
[16:07] <zul> ttx: ack
[16:08] <smoser> ttx, i can push the cloud images public so whoever is testing on UEC can start downloading
[16:08] <smoser> or am i that "whoever"
[16:12] <smoser> ttx, ^^
[16:13] <smoser> kirkland, Daviey, ccheney you can start testing UEC cloud images from http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/maverick/20100630.1/
[16:13] <smoser> they're in progress publishing to ec2 , but the .tar.gz files there are good
[16:13] <kirkland> smoser: i won't be able to until very late this evening
[16:13] <smoser> well, whoever is to test those, they're available now
[16:14] <Daviey> smoser: will do.. later
[16:14] <alonswartz> smoser: I'll take the EC2 builds for test drive when they are available
[16:14] <smoser> alonswartz, thanks, and "hi".
[16:15] <alonswartz> smoser: hey :)
[16:15] <smoser> alonswartz, have you put together a list of ebsmount solutions ?
[16:15] <Dravekx> is there a support channel for LAMP?
[16:16] <alonswartz> smoser: sorry, been a little bogged down with a release this week, which we just published a few hours ago. I'll put the list together and send it your way
[16:17] <thesheff17> Dravekx: I dont think so...are you having problems w/ lamp?
[16:17] <alonswartz> smoser: actually, i'll be meeting liraz tomorrow so we'll have a chat about it and then I'll send you the list - sorry for taking so long
[16:17] <alonswartz> smoser: is ebsmount installed in the uec/ec2 images?
[16:18] <smoser> no
[16:18] <smoser> but is easily 'apt-get install ebsmount'
[16:18] <Dravekx> thesheff17, yes. I'm installing wordpress, but when I try to access the install php, it tries to download instead of execute it.
[16:18] <alonswartz> ok, we should have a fix out next week (once we decide on it)
[16:18] <Dravekx> Im using Firefox
[16:19] <thesheff17> try to restart apache
[16:19] <Dravekx> k
[16:19] <thesheff17> /etc/init.d/apache restart
[16:19] <thesheff17> /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[16:20] <Dravekx> thesheff17, no. it is still trying to open the file instead of access it properly. maybe its firefox?
[16:20] <thesheff17> no that is a server config problem
[16:20] <Dravekx> k
[16:21] <kaushal> hi
[16:22] <thesheff17> try sudo a2enmod php5
[16:22] <kaushal> The issue is that we have built ubuntu using kickstart/tftp/pxe image on all the 300 servers. The issue is with the pxe server. We found out that the running Kernel on all the ubuntu hosts are 2.6.24-16-generic and not 2.6.24-16-server.
[16:22] <kaushal> Please suggest me whats the best way to set it to correctly to 2.6.24-16-server on all the hosts running ubuntu 8.04 server(Hardy)
[16:22] <ccheney> smoser, ok, sorry my xchat crashed and just noticed
[16:22] <Dravekx> Module php5 already enabled
[16:23] <ccheney> i should have realized i would be getting more messages, lol
[16:23] <thesheff17> try this: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[16:23] <Dravekx> k
[16:23] <thesheff17> and make sure apache is actually stoping
[16:23] <thesheff17> ps aux | grep apache
[16:24] <thesheff17> and try to start it again
[16:24] <thesheff17> also you have .php as the file name right?
[16:25] <Dravekx> Apache is NOT running.
[16:25] <Dravekx> yes
[16:25] <Dravekx> http://www.dravekx.com/~dravekx/phpinfo.php
[16:25] <Dravekx> you can see it there. it tries to download instead of display it
[16:25] <thesheff17> hehe try to start apache :)
[16:26] <thesheff17> oh that url doesn't work for me
[16:26] <Dravekx> Apache is running (pid 1101).
[16:26] <thesheff17> what is with the ~
[16:26] <Dravekx> idk lol its a home directory. i used UserDir
[16:27] <Dravekx> http://www.dravekx.com/~dravekx/phpinfo.php
[16:27] <Dravekx> there, now try lol
[16:27] <Dravekx> its still not displaying. :(
[16:27] <thesheff17> ah ok...try to copy the php file to the root of the apache dir /var/www/
[16:27] <thesheff17> see if that works
[16:28] <Dravekx> ok
[16:28] <thesheff17> chances are you have to add some stuff to your UserDir
[16:28] <Dravekx> oh :)
[16:31] <MTecknology> !clamav
[16:31] <MTecknology> !clam
[16:34] <Dravekx> thesheff17, :) that was it... I need to add something.
[16:34] <Dravekx> thesheff17
[16:34] <Dravekx> http://www.dravekx.com/phpinfo.php
[16:35] <ccheney> smoser, i just register that image and then try to run images?
[16:35] <ccheney> er instances
[16:35] <smoser> there are tests listed in the tracker
[16:35] <smoser> hold on.
[16:35] <ccheney> oh yea
[16:35] <smoser> let me find one
[16:36] <ccheney> iso.qa.ubuntu.com ?
[16:36] <smoser> yeah, but i dont know how to get to the test lists
[16:36] <smoser> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/ubuntuserver/all
[16:36] <thesheff17> it could also do with file permissions
[16:36] <ccheney> oh ok
[16:36] <smoser> doesn't show the UEC images (since they're not published)
[16:36] <ccheney> yea
[16:36] <smoser> i guess we can ask them to populate
[16:37] <smoser> ccheney, i asked in -release
[16:37] <ccheney> smoser, ok thanks
[16:37] <ccheney> i'll start testing once they show up
[16:37] <smoser> thanks.
[16:38] <thesheff17> try to add this to you userdir: AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
[16:38] <Dravekx> k
[16:38] <thesheff17> and restart apache
[16:40] <thesheff17> brb have to go grab laundry
[16:43] <smoser> ccheney, those tests are populated now
[16:44] <ccheney> ok thanks
[16:44] <smoser> http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/System/UECCloudImages is the test description
[16:44]  * ccheney has to make dr appt for his wife, apparently the other dr thinks its emergency status so probably should do so :-\
[16:44] <ccheney> will be back in a couple mins
[16:44] <smoser> i think this can wait
[16:45] <smoser> good choice on priority
[16:45] <kaushal> checking in again for the query ?
[16:46] <zul> will be back in about an hour
[16:49] <thesheff17> Dravekx: that work?
[16:51] <Dravekx> thesheff17, someone asked me to try to "doborkify" apache.
[16:51] <Dravekx> lol
[16:51] <Dravekx> deborkify*
[16:51] <Dravekx> Im not sure where to add that mime type?
[16:52] <thesheff17> what is deborkify?...you have a userdir for your home dir...try to add it in there
[16:52] <Dravekx> http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/DebianDeb0rkification
[16:53] <ccheney> ok back now
[16:53] <thesheff17> hehe :)
[16:55] <Dravekx> thesheff17, the mimetype is listed... it must be a permissions issue.
[16:57] <thesheff17> try chown -R www-data:www-data /yourDirectory/
[16:58] <Dravekx> thesheff17, that would mean I need to change every ownership permission for every user? :O
[17:01] <thesheff17> no that is saying change everything in that directory recursively to the apache2 user
[17:01] <thesheff17> that runs apache
[17:02] <thesheff17> www-data is the user and group that should be assigned to all files that need to be serverd by apache
[17:02] <Dravekx> in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.conf check to see if PHP is explicitly turned off in user directories
[17:02] <Dravekx> I think I foudn something lol
[17:02] <thesheff17> well you have it turned on
[17:02] <thesheff17> since it is working on the root of apache
[17:03] <thesheff17> it is just something specific to that userDir/directory
[17:03] <Dravekx> oh
[17:07] <Dravekx> ahh. that was it.
[17:10] <thesheff17> excellent
[17:13] <thesheff17> Dravekx yea I usually create an alias in my .bashrc file to fix all the files and restart apache the so something like this:
[17:13] <thesheff17> alias apacheFixRestart = 'sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www/; sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /otherDirsForApache/; sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart'
[17:13] <thesheff17> apache2 restart...not apache
[17:14] <thesheff17> and then you can just run apacheFixRestart and it will do all those commands together
[17:17] <Dravekx> k
[17:18] <hggdh> Daviey, kirkland: <sigh/> one metadata failure on latest test run with -proposed
[17:19] <Daviey> hggdh: Can i ask you to run it again..
[17:20] <Daviey> it's the same damn patch :/
[17:20] <Daviey> hggdh: I'm wondering if it's a case of lottery
[17:20] <Daviey> hggdh: How many instances were successful?
[17:20] <hggdh> Daviey: indeed... but this is a race condition -- usually we can prove that there is a race (we get a failure) but *not* that there is no race
[17:21] <hggdh> Daviey: out of 400 instances, one single bloody failure
[17:21] <Daviey> hggdh: Okay.. This doesn't mean verification-failed IMO.
[17:21] <Daviey> hggdh: it's *much* better success rate than what we currently have
[17:21] <hggdh> Daviey: I tend that way also
[17:22] <hggdh> but we have to get an agreement on how to proceed
[17:22] <Daviey> hggdh: And no known regression
[17:22] <hggdh> Daviey: yes
[17:22] <Daviey> 1 out of 400 isn't unreasonable tbh.
[17:22] <hggdh> +1
[17:22] <Daviey> hggdh: OK, could i ask that you leave it running overnight - doing as many instances as you can do in that?
[17:23] <Daviey> Then we'll have some great stats, and can also let upstream know
[17:23] <[diablo]> afternoon guys
[17:24] <hggdh> Daviey: I can start a -- say -- 10,000 run and see where it leaves us. Will probably finish in the next 12-24 hours, but we can take stock at EOD (US CDT) and BOD
[17:24] <[diablo]> anyone know a one liner to change the apt repos to the global ones... sync lag on the localized repo I have on one of my ubuntu servers
[17:24] <Daviey> hggdh: If that doesn't block the machines for anything else you need to do with them, it would be great verification :)
[17:25] <hggdh> Daviey: the only immediate need we would have is for A2, so no big deal (we need the upadted kernel)
[17:25] <Daviey> [diablo]: sudo sed -i 's/gb.arch/arch/g' /etc/apt/sources.list <-- if you are using gb.archive.ubuntu.com for example
[17:25] <thesheff17> diablo: int vim :%s/string/stringToReplaceWith
[17:26] <[diablo]> Daviey, yep, though of that, just wondered if there was a command line tool by default to do it
[17:26] <Daviey> hggdh: OK, if you can set it off nowish - then just kill it when you need to do A2 tests.. that should give us enough data
[17:26] <Daviey> [diablo]: no
[17:26] <[diablo]> ok
[17:26] <[diablo]> thanks
[17:30] <hggdh> Daviey: I am pushing the last logs to ~hggdh2/+junk/lucid/1.6.2-0ubuntu30.3-proposed, and will email Chris; also, starting a humongous run
[17:33] <thesheff17> Bug #536940 is there anyway I can get this patch?
[17:37] <Daviey> hggdh: super work, thanks for that
[17:47] <lostdeveloper> hi guys, some of you tried to install Ubuntu-Server Hardy Heron on a Dell Optiplex 320?
[17:47] <lostdeveloper> after instalation complete, system don't boot
[18:56] <ScottK> smoser: It's all good for python-yaml now, right?
[18:56] <smoser> yes sir.
[18:56] <smoser> thank you.
[18:56] <ScottK> Great.  Sorry for the problem before.
[18:57] <smoser> sorry for the chicken little dance
[18:57] <ScottK> I'm the guinea pig for some new Python build stuff for Squeeze/Maverick and that one bit didn't go well.
[18:58] <ScottK> It was the kind of thing I knew exactly what it was, but if you hadn't been involved in the dh_python2 work would have been really hard to figure out.
[19:06] <peturi> I have a couple of machines running Ubuntu and one ubuntu server, i'd like to use centralized user management
[19:06] <peturi> please point me in the right direction
[19:20] <ttx> New ISO is up on the tracker
[19:20] <ttx> let's get cracking !
[19:27] <zul> another iso?!
[19:29] <ttx> well no
[19:29] <ttx> the one I said would be ready is now eready
[19:30]  * zul shakes his fist at Daviey
[19:36] <ttx> that's a good one: http://www.supersimplestorageservice.com/
[19:38] <ttx> my favorite bit: "All complaints and feature requests will be immediately stored using our S4-backed user request database."
[19:42] <andol> Well, S4 must obviously be one up better than S3? :-)
[19:43] <andol> Ahh, "write only..."
[19:51] <ttx> andol: hehe
[20:37] <Jack-in-Box> one of my employees got access to the root password, id there an easy way to change it on a system without messing something up?
[20:51] <Jack-in-Box> one of my employees got access to the root password, ids there an easy way to change it?
[20:52] <guntbert> Jack-in-Box: disable it again
[20:53] <Kaffien> are there any tweaks i can do to ensure fast data transfer from windows server to my ubuntu-server ?
[20:53] <Kaffien> such as disabling ipv6 etc?
[20:53] <guntbert> Jack-in-Box: why do you need one anyway?
[20:53] <Jack-in-Box> well, i like to use it from time to time for myself
[20:53] <Jack-in-Box> hate always typing sudo
[20:55] <RoyK> Jack-in-Box: change the password, doublecheck if there's something in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[20:55] <guntbert> Jack-in-Box: the change it - as root type passwd  ... but still you should disable it and in the rare cases when you *really* need a root shell invoke it with sudo -i
[20:55] <guntbert> *then
[20:56]  * RoyK pats guntbert 
[20:56] <guntbert> RoyK: :)
[20:57] <Kaffien> So far i have enabled jumbo frames for giggles
[21:08] <Jack-in-Box> k, thanks...
[21:09] <qman__> Kaffien, Windows Vista/08 and newer actually get better speed over ipv6
[21:09] <qman__> disabling it provides no performance advantage
[21:10] <qman__> on gigabit ethernet, my transfer rates between linux and windows vista/08/7 can hit 80MB/s
[21:10] <qman__> if you're not getting that fast, look to other sources of slowdown
[21:10] <qman__> such as slow disks or system overhead
[21:55] <BluesKaj> anyone have any advice on getting a registrant to release a domain name which was actaully purchased by me thru the registrant.
[21:55] <panfist> i'm trying to follow the guide here https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html ...
[21:56] <panfist> i get to this part, sudo ldapadd -x -D cn=admin,dc=example,dc=com -W -f frontend.example.com.ldif ... and it tells me to "Enter LDAP Password:" but nothing i enter is valid
[21:56] <BluesKaj> I no longer use the registrant for hosting my website ,and i'd like to set it up and host it myself on ubuntu-server
[21:56] <panfist> shouldn't this password be equal to olcRootPW set in backend.example.com.ldif?
[21:57] <panfist> blueskaj did you try asking the registrant?
[21:59] <BluesKaj> panfist, yeah, but they're stalling me , trying to get me to re-enlist so to speak
[22:00] <panfist> i'm not very well versed in this topic but i think you do have to renew payment for registration, not necessarily hosting. i'm probably wrong though
[22:01] <BluesKaj> seems I have to jump thru a series of hoops designed to discourage me from leaving their hosting business...legally here in Canada they have to comply with my request
[22:02] <panfist> then tell them to comply or you will contact the appropriate authorities
[22:02] <panfist> i don't know who those are in canada
[22:02] <qman__> BluesKaj, while I've not been in that situation myself, I've always had my new domain registration company handle the transfers for me
[22:02] <panfist> i also don't know about credit card regulations in canada, but if this happened to me in the US i would renew with my credit card then stop payment later
[22:03] <BluesKaj> anyway , panfist, qman__ , if I continue with install ubuntu-server can i migrate the website to the server after installation ?
[22:03] <panfist> yes
[22:03] <qman__> of course, it's a simple change in your apache configuration
[22:03] <panfist> i would do what qman__ said ... if this company is being unfair about hosting i would not want to patronize them for registration
[22:04] <BluesKaj> ok, sounds cool then , it's gonna be a family site more or less , for sharing media etc remotely
[22:04] <qman__> personally, I use mydomain.com and byethost.net, they've both been good to me
[22:06] <BluesKaj> right qman, I dunno if I'll use another webhost or not yet, i may have to due to ISP restrictions on static IP
[22:06] <qman__> if you want to go the free route, you can always get a free subdomain through sites like afraid.org, with dynamic DNS updates
[22:07] <qman__> I use them when I need access to a DHCP network over the net
[22:12] <panfist> i'm trying to follow the OpenLDAP server docs on the Lucid Server Guide; i get about halfway through when I'm prompted to "Enter LDAP Password:" and nothing works
[22:29] <BluesKaj> qman__, remote access over the net is something of a challenge to me ...ssh is working ok on the lan with the linux boxes and smb client on the windows machine,but helping the family to access our LAN from the outside is new to me.
[22:33] <BluesKaj> most of the pcs accessing the our LAN will be windows , so I'm going to need to research this a lot more :)
[22:36] <qman__> I use and recommend openVPN
[22:38] <BluesKaj> qman__, for remote access?
[22:41] <BluesKaj> well, i have to go , so i'll BB later
[22:52] <cjs> Given a hard disk image (which includes a partition table) as a file (or in my case, a block device in /dev/mapper mapped via cryptsetup), how would I mount partitions from within it?
[23:19] <cjs> Ah, this way, I suppose: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1000644
[23:24] <panfist> i'm trying to follow the OpenLDAP server docs on the Lucid Server Guide; i get about halfway through when I'm prompted to "Enter LDAP Password:" and nothing works
[23:27] <Byte> somebody can help me?
[23:28] <Byte> im install ubuntu enterprise cluod now, how can i create an user for the https panel?
[23:28] <Byte> of the enterprise cloud?
[23:40] <Byte> some body can help me with the frist steps in ubuntu enterprise edition
[23:44] <red2kic> Hello. Do I want xen if I'm trying to have multiple OSes (eg, 3 monitors, 3 keyboards + mouse, 3 audios hooked to a single machine?)
[23:49] <cjs> red2kic: Ubuntu doesn't come with Xen any more (sad to say); you need to use KVM.
[23:49] <cjs> As to what you're trying to do, I've had the idea, but I've never tried it out. It would not be trivial to set up, if it can be done at all.
[23:51] <red2kic> cjs: I do see ubuntu-xen-server in the lucid repo? I'm wondering if it is possible to create NUM of kiosks using a single machine.
[23:54] <cjs> Hm. Maybe xen came back.
[23:55] <panfist> i'm trying to follow the OpenLDAP server docs on the Lucid Server Guide; i get about halfway through when I'm prompted to "Enter LDAP Password:" and nothing works
[23:55] <panfist> sorry didn't mean to enter that again so soon
[23:57] <red2kic> cjs: Is xen what I'm looking for? I have no slight clue -- but multihead is the other word, I suppose.