[02:37] dfarning: Goodmorning. [02:38] dipankar, good morning [02:38] how are you? [02:38] fine. Thank you. how was your day? [02:38] dipankar, it was good:) [02:39] dipankar, what are you working on now? [02:40] dfarning: Last night, I was handling two issues : The sugar-emulator launcher to be changed.. and the other is the logger change for 'gsm not set' error [02:41] dfarning: you told you would help me in patching with logger issue and we then we will send a bug fix request to Debian [02:41] ah yes, did you find which package contains the sugar emulator laucher? [02:41] dfarning: So I tried on poking with sugar-emulator files, but couldn't get it done :( [02:42] dipankar, ok, i'll help you look. [02:42] The very obvious one is 'sugar-emulator-0.88' [02:45] dipankar, that make sense. IIRC sugar-emulator is a wrapper which sets some stuff up and the creates a sugar session [02:46] dfarning, ok.. [02:47] dipankar, so one option would be to find where the sugar-emulator script starts the sugar session and add the -f flag there. [02:47] dfarning, ok, that I found in /usr/bin/sugar-emulator [02:48] dfarning, In the last line there was written 'Starting emulator' then a long script calling python [02:49] dipankar, another probobly better option is to modify the menu item itself [02:50] That can be found in /usr/share/menu/sugar-emulator-0.88 [02:50] dfarning, yup that too I found in /usr/share/applications/sugar-emulator-0.88 [02:50] dfarning, but what ever I changed there did not reflect on the applications menu [02:52] dipankar, I think there is command like 'dbload' to cause ubuntu to reread the contents of /usr/share/menu otherwise your get the cached results. [02:53] dfarning, this one? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/dapper/man1/v.to.db.1grass.html [02:58] dipankar, I am still looking [02:59] dfarning: I am trying from my end :) [03:00] dipankar, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete#.desktop Files [03:03] dipankar, /usr/share/applications/sugar-emulator.desktop is the correct place menu/* is for a legacy menu system [03:04] dfarning, okk [03:05] dfarning, I am looking at that file only [03:06] dipankar, can you patch, test, and upload this fix to the ppa. [03:07] dipankar, the next thing that I would like you work on is git. [03:07] dfarning, I am still unable to find the fix on my machine [03:08] dipankar, were you able to modify /usr/share/applications/sugar-emulator-0.88 ? [03:09] dfarning, yes.. but no change in launcher.. [03:11] dfarning, wait.. there is no file as 'sugar-emulator-0.88' in '/usr/share/applications/'.. [03:13] dipankar, it appears as the file sugar in the filemanger [03:14] dfarning, can you tell me the path? [03:16] are you looking for this? dpkg -S `which sugar-emulator` [03:17] on my machine the binary package is named "sugar" [03:17] /usr/share/applications/sugar-emulator.desktop [03:18] grantbow, dipankar is looking for the desktop file to modify the menu entry [03:19] grantbow, Hello. As dfarning said I want to change the menu launcher by changing the script.. [03:19] dipankar, use your terminal to look for the file. The GUI filemanager treats .desktop files as launchers rather than normal files [03:19] aha, "dpkg -L sugar" shows that /usr/share/applications/sugar-emulator.desktop is in the sugar binary package too [03:19] 'Applications->Education->Sugar' [03:21] grantbow, dfarning, I tried that file already.. I made changes, did a restart, but in vain.. :( [03:24] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Howtos/DesktopFiles is probably relevant but I don't see anything about updateing [03:24] updating [03:25] lots of apps must do this in post-install scripts [03:25] * grantbow looks [03:27] * dipankar, looking [03:27] /var/lib/dpkg/info/tomboy.postinst has something called update-menus in it [03:27] * grantbow uses man [03:28] guys, brb in 5 minutes. [03:28] dipankar, I just modified the /usr/share/applications/sugar-emulator.desktop file [03:29] Etoys is still under Science in my menus from a previous install [03:31] dipankar, so that Exec=/usr/bin/sugar-emulator -f [03:31] then I logged out and back in and it worked. [03:33] grantbow, ok thanks I have added fixing the etoys menu to our todays todo lists [03:33] well, etoys is a package and sugar-etoys is dependent [03:35] on my machine right now (Lucid with some PPAs) I have etoys 4.0.2340-1~ppa2 and sugar-etoys 115-1~ppa1 [03:37] dfarning, Mine is still not working :( [03:37] grantbow, but it would seem that it would make sense for etoys to be a general education app [03:39] grantbow, hmmm I just installed etoys from universe (i think) and it is correctly listed under the education menu. [03:40] dipankar, can you paste your /usr/share/applications/sugar-emulator.desktop to paste bin? [03:40] dfarning, in a minute [03:41] dfarning: "dpkg -l etoys sugar-etoys" tells me 4.0.2340-1~ppa2 and 4.0.2340-1~ppa2 - what do they show for you? [03:43] grantbow, etoys 3.0.1916+svn13 [03:44] http://paste.ubuntu.com/457149/ [03:44] dfarning, ^^ the pastebin link [03:46] dipankard It does not start full screen? [03:46] dipankard it looks right [03:46] no [03:47] dipankard try right clicking on the application menu to edit the menu by hand to see what it show for the sugar 'command' [03:48] dfarning, I screwed up my '/usr/bin/sugar-emulator' right now [03:49] dipankard :) [03:49] lfaraone, are you around? [03:49] dfarning: yes, currently working on sugar-terminal-activity. [03:50] dfarning, how do I recover it? I took a back up before.. but I seem to not get the extension correctly [03:50] dipankar: the file should be anything.desktop [03:50] dipankar: or were you editing the /usr/biin/sugar-emulator file itself? [03:51] lfaraone, ahh great, when you get a chance, can you introduce dipankard to git and maintaining packages in aloith. [03:51] lfaraone: editing /bin/sugar-emulator [03:52] dipankard: sudo apt-get remove sugar-emulator; sudo apt-get install sugar-emulator [03:52] dipankard, If you think something is screwed up I recommend.... luke bet me to it. [03:53] dipankard, can you take a break from the menu entry and work with luke awhile to learn git? We can look at the menu after you have cleared your head. [03:54] dfarning, :) Ok sure [03:55] dfarning, So I have to work on git /alioth? [03:55] dipankar: for starters, do the three things listed in the first section of wiki.debian.org/Sugar/GettingStartedGuide [03:56] lfaraone, ok [03:56] dipankar, I would appreciate it if you did. It is a critical skill. once you learn it you will be asked to teach the rest of the USR team:) [03:57] dfarning, :) [04:16] lfaraone, done. I have sent requests to join the teams [04:18] dipankar, are you familar with git and why we want to use it? [04:20] dfarning, I guess you told me that Jonas uses git. If we apply patch, Jonas can also be notified. uploading the patches to PPA doesn't help in that. [04:21] dipankar, yes, and now to take a step back as to 'why' jonas (and many other projects) use git? [04:22] dipankar, please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Git_(software) [04:24] dfarning, "Every Git working directory is a full-fledged repository with complete history and full revision tracking capabilities, not dependent on network access or a central server".. unlike PPA. [04:25] dipankar, yes and it has two very help full properties:) branching and merging. [04:26] dfarning, yeah.. I remember now.. The problem that occurred while packaging for sugar-artwork [04:26] when you branch you can make a copy of an existing branch and modify that branch. Very handy when modifying packages like we are. [04:28] dipankar, exactly git allows you to merge two branches, both of which have changed, back to to a single branch [04:28] ok.. thats great [04:29] dipankar, jonas can make changes to upsteam and we can make changes to ubuntu and we can automatically merge both change sets. [04:30] dipankar, and a third reason is it is trivial for one branch to 'cherry-pick' changes from another branch.... it we make a useful patch jonas can 'pull' it into his upstream patch. [04:31] hello all, can i join now in between [04:31] ? [04:32] dfarning, that makes sense.. [04:32] ankur, hi [04:32] read the irc log :) [04:32] dipankar, I'll let lfaraone finish the rest he is the debian guy. [04:33] ankur, sure feel free to jump in anytime. [04:33] ankur, what are you working on? [04:33] dipankar: finally, the critical reasons we use git (compared to the other VCSs that support building Debian packages) are twofold: Upstream (Sugar) uses Git already, and Jonas (the main DD behind Sugar-on-Debian) uses it for all his packages. [04:34] i was working on checking control panel for crashing and the date/time crash buge [04:34] i uploaded the sugar artwork package [04:35] dipankar: so, you should now understand why git is useful. are you familiar with its usage? [04:35] ankur, ahh yes and that looked pretty good. [04:35] and bug #3 and #7 were solved in here https://spreadsheets.google.com/a/seeta.in/ccc?key=0AkSamhAwInnsdGowV2dJc3ZzMzMxX2hfR2QxVFZaLWc&hl=en#gid=0 [04:35] i mean the bug mentioned there [04:36] ankur, for a few days we are going to be working on leaning new skill. [04:36] Also, in control panel there was only one more bug i found that it does not restart [04:36] dfarning, great :) [04:36] lfaraone: I guess so.. I have used it before : git-buildpackage.. [04:36] ankur, I would like you to look at installing and packaging Sugar for ubuntu 10.10 [04:37] dipankar: okay. that's only one command, which handles building the package itself. [04:37] lfaraone, i have never uploading to git. [04:37] *never done [04:38] dipankar: okay. git makes changes locally by default in your own little "git repository". [04:38] dipankar: so you can play around there without worrying about breaking other people's toys. [04:38] ankur, do you think you could set up a ubuntu 10.10 test system? [04:39] dipankar: http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/gittutorial.html explains how to use git for most tasks, and is applicable to any time you use git, not just building Debian packages. I would recommend you read through it and be familiar with the commands mentioned. [04:39] I dont know exactly how to proceed but few pointers from your side could well get me up and running [04:40] dfarning, as for starters any thing recommended , also i am searching from my side as well [04:41] ankur, are you running ubuntu in a vm or as a dual boot setup? [04:41] dfarning, i am running ubuntu as dual boot system. [04:42] ankur, so now you will want to make it tri-boot windows, ubuntu 10.04, and ubuntu 10.10 [04:43] ankur, do you have enough harddrive space to make a 5 GB partition for Ubuntu 10.10 [04:44] dfarning, or i can run ubuntu 10.10 in virtual box on my current ubuntu as i wont have to restart every time , if there is no problem. And yes i have enough free space.I have 500gb harddisk and most of it is free [04:45] ankur, That would be a good idea to run in it a VM. [04:46] dfarning, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/10.10/alpha-1/ ? [04:46] dfarning: I need to be sleeping, I'll talk to you folks later :) [04:46] ankur, do you need time to set up the vm host, I prefer Virtual Box on Ubuntu? [04:46] lfaraone, It just came to my mind. Don't we have to have an account for git upload? [04:47] i have virtual box already installed on my system [04:47] lfaraone, ok see you in the morning [04:47] dipankar: let me know if you find anything in the git tutorial confusing. When you finish, go on to the git-tutorial-2 part [04:47] dipankar: to upload, yes. so we don't have to worry about that until you "push" your changes. [04:48] lfaraone, ok.. see you in some hours then. Good night :) [04:48] ankur, yes, give that a shot.... but it might fail. in that case we can try another method [04:48] okay [04:48] dipankar, please ping me with any questions... if you have them. [04:49] dfarning, I sure will :P [04:49] dfarning, what is the other method in between [04:49] ? [04:50] ankur, we can install ubuntu 10.04 in the vm and upgrade it to 10.10 [04:50] oh right [04:50] that too will do it i suppose [04:50] dfarning, i have already installed USR iso in my virtual box [04:51] do you think it will be a good idea to upgrade that to 10.10 ? [04:51] ankur, yes, that is worth trying:) [04:51] ankur, lets find some instuctions [04:52] ankur, there is a good intro and instruction to upgrade at http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/maverick/alpha1 [04:55] dfarning, Is there any package I can try my 'hands-on'.. The written portion is so boring [04:57] dipankar, what resource are you reading? [05:00] the one which luke provided http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/gittutorial.html . I am not complaining about it.. its just that I want to try that on some package [05:00] dipankar, try going through http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/everyday.html it is much more hands on. [05:01] dipankar, each section has a hand on part with a explation of what the steps of the hands on part did. it is the way I prefer to learn:) [05:02] neeraj, how are you this morning? [05:02] dfarning, great.. [05:04] dfarning: I am fine.. :) [05:04] neeraj, what are you working on? [05:05] Manu sir asked me to go through sugar-manual.. I was doing that.. [05:05] is their anything on which I an work right now.. [05:06] an->can* [05:06] neeraj, I was thinking today would be a good time to learn to package activities. [05:07] dfarning: fine.. where should I start.. [05:07] I tried googeling it after reading your mail but couldn't find any suitable link.. [05:08] neeraj, ok let's work on packaging for a while then you can read then sugar manual after I go to sleep:) [05:09] neeraj, packaging activites is just like packaging the core pieces we are allready packaging. [05:10] we want to grab an activity from debian, modify it as necessary and upload it to the ppa. [05:11] neeraj, but one little twist is that we are going to have to double check that we have the latest version from aslo. [05:15] dfarning, sorry got dc. [05:15] neeraj, np [05:15] How should I start with packaging activities.. which you mentioned in the mail [05:16] neeraj, we want to grab an activity from debian, modify it as necessary and upload it to the ppa. [05:16] neeraj, but one little twist is that we are going to have to double check that we have the latest version from aslo. [05:20] neeraj, does that make sense? [05:21] this is frustrating.. train passed through no network are again :(.. nyway I will look into irc logs [05:22] dfarning, can i try to package one activity in eve? [05:23] neeraj_, sure ping me when you are ready. [05:23] k.. thanks :).. [06:01] dfarning, how about I contact you in the evening (IST)? I will go through git today [06:02] dipankar, sounds good. I'll try to be back in about 6 hours. [06:03] dfarning, good night then :) [13:16] lfaraone, around? [13:16] lfaraone, goodmorning [13:21] dfarning, good morning. Around? [13:45] dfarning, around? [13:45] good morning :) [13:47] Manusheel sir, dipankar good evening :) [13:48] ankurkhurana : Good evening Ankur. [13:58] lfaraone, goodmoring [13:58] dipankar: sorry, just woke up. if you'll pardon me, I'll have breakfast and be back in thirty minutes. [13:59] lfaraone, no problem. sure [14:31] dipankar: I have a presentation to give at 10am local. (another thirty minutes for me) can you emial me your questions? [14:32] lfaraone, No problem. I just had two urgent-questions [14:32] lfaraone, It will take two minutes [14:32] dipankar: okay [14:32] lfaraone, First one is: I am unable to add anything through 'git add .' [14:33] when I run 'git commit' after that.. it gives me a weird msg: 'Commit message unchanged' [14:33] dipankar: "git add ." adds the current directory (".") and its contents to git. [14:34] dipankar: did you put something in the folder? [14:35] lfaraone, no.. I got confused.. [14:35] dipankar: okay. so you create a git repository in the current directory with "git init", right? [14:35] lfaraone, done [14:36] dipankar: then you copy some files into t he current directory. [14:36] dipankar: then you add the files with "git add ." [14:36] lfaraone, then I made a simple hello world script [14:36] x1.sh [14:36] okay. tell me what the output of "ls -lat" is. [14:37] just a sec [14:37] total 20 [14:37] drwxr-xr-x 7 dipankar dipankar 4096 2010-06-30 17:45 .git [14:37] -rw-r--r-- 1 dipankar dipankar 46 2010-06-30 17:45 x2.sh [14:37] drwxr-xr-x 3 dipankar dipankar 4096 2010-06-30 17:45 . [14:37] -rw-r--r-- 1 dipankar dipankar 40 2010-06-30 17:40 x1.sh [14:37] drwxr-xr-x 4 dipankar dipankar 4096 2010-06-30 17:36 .. [14:38] sorry luke.. I pasted here.. to save some time.. [14:38] dipankar: okay. what does "git status" tell you? [14:38] # On branch master [14:38] # [14:38] # Initial commit [14:38] # [14:38] # Changes to be committed: [14:38] # (use "git rm --cached ..." to unstage) [14:38] # [14:38] # new file: x1.sh [14:38] # new file: x2.sh [14:38] # [14:38] * sorry once again [14:39] dipankar: okay. that tells you that there are new files that are staged to be committed. What does "git commit" tell you? [14:39] it should take you to an eidtor. [14:39] yes.. just like the dch one.. [14:40] dipankar: okay. so now that you've added files to the git repository, you have to specify a commit message. [14:40] lfaraone, ok.. [14:41] dipankar: in the editor, above the second line, explain the changes you made, then save+quit the editor. [14:42] lfaraone, done [14:42] lfaraone, now no more error messages [14:42] :) [14:42] dipankar: okay. so git tells you you've committed. [14:42] lfaraone, ok [14:43] lfaraone, after that I have to run the git-buildpackage command I guess [14:43] dipankar: well, no. [14:43] oops.. I guess no [14:43] I haven't made the debian folder yet [14:43] :( [14:43] dipankar: heh, no worries. [14:44] lfaraone, What should be next step then? According to manual page that you specified, it explains to use 'git --diff' [14:44] * git diff --cache [14:45] dipankar: try "updating an existing package" from http://wiki.debian.org/Sugar/GettingStartedGuide [14:46] lfaraone, Ok.. I will contact you after your presentation then. [14:46] lfaraone, thanks for clearing my doubts [14:47] dipankar: hope I could help. [14:47] lfaraone, you sure did, and best of luck for your presentation [14:49] lfaraone: do u know when will david be able to come? === Ankur_Khurana is now known as ankurkhurana === ankurkhurana_ is now known as ankurkhurana [15:13] dipankar: though i have already set 10.10 test system , i was hoping to set it in my windowx as well [15:14] if i install it again, thought i will be able to import my pgp keys, but i am afraid that you will have to provide access to me again. [15:15] to vm host [15:19] good morning -- sorry to be so late. I just can't live on a few hours of sleep anymore. [15:20] we will have decide which is more useful for me to join you in the morning of evening. [15:23] dfarning: good morning [15:26] ankurkhurana, good morning how is it going? [15:26] everything is fine. [15:26] i set the test system in afternoon [15:27] ankurkhurana, the ubuntu 10.10 on a vm? [15:27] there was only one problem, that when i click on about ubuntu, it shows 10.04 and when i check in terminnal thru this command, lsb_release -a i get 10.10 [15:27] yes on a vm [15:29] :) they probably have not updated the artwork and all of the strings to reflect the current version. [15:30] okay, so what are we onto today? [15:31] ankurkhurana, did you set everything to update to the most recent repsoitories in synaptic? [15:32] not yet [15:32] i just installed the system. [15:32] will do it, also can you give me 10 minutes so that i can reboot.I was in windows currently. :) [15:32] ankurkhurana, ok that is just some thing to remember. [15:33] sure and your next set of tasks will be updating the sugar packages to 10.10 [15:33] i was installing ubuntu under windows in vm as of now [15:34] it will take 10 minutes or so [15:34] in the meanwhile we can discuss on how to proceed , if that is a good idea [15:36] kandarpk, how is debian coming? [15:37] Haven't installed sugar on it yet [15:37] was doing some documentation on sphinx [15:38] I shall try doing it now [15:40] kandarpk, welcome back. [15:40] logged into Debian [15:41] shall I install sugar-emulator-0.88 ? [15:42] or education-desktop-sugar ? [15:42] Sure, that would be good. The goal will be to test debian for the bugs we found in ubuntu and submitted the patches to debian if they exist there [15:42] both:) [15:42] Ok. [15:42] kandarpk, btw what did you upgrade too [15:43] upgrade as in ? [15:43] didn't get you .. [15:44] Now that you have debian succeffully installed, you will want to upgrade to 'unstable' [15:44] oh [15:44] I somehow managed to get that weekly release working [15:45] told you Windows-manager wasn't there [15:45] so installed Gnome-session, Gnome-panel, etc [15:46] then updated the system [15:46] dfarning, selecting education-desktop-sugar is selecting 0.84 version of all packages inside sugar [15:47] should I leave it then ? [15:49] kandarpk, ok great and good job, you will still want to set things up so you are sure you are working on 'unstable' [15:50] ok. [15:50] How do I do that ? [15:51] kandarpk, there is a good faq at http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html [15:52] kandarpk, You do that by editing /etc/apt/sources.list and changing your sources from stable to unstable. [15:53] Ok. [15:53] thanks [15:56] I've some sources like : [15:56] deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free [15:56] deb http://security.debian.org testing/updates main contrib non-free [15:57] is testing same as unstable ? [15:58] unstable is even more bleeding edge than testing:) [15:58] Ok. :) [15:59] http://www.debian.org/releases/ [16:01] dfarning, by the way, the installation failed because my cd was corrupt [16:02] kandarpk, arggg . that is frustrating. [16:02] it had an integrity test [16:02] came to know after running that [16:05] good morning neeraj, how are you doing? [16:06] good morning dfarning I am fine.. [16:06] how are you? [16:06] neeraj, how are the activities coming. [16:07] dfarning: As I told you earlier I was just going through sugar mannual I will start with packaging activity now.. [16:07] neeraj, I am well rested... I will have to either work work you guys longer in the morning of longer in the evening. I was not getting enough sleep meeting you on both ends [16:08] neeraj, ok [16:08] dfarning, sugar got installed [16:08] dfarning: I will ping u in 15 min.. after dinner.. [16:08] kandarpk, awesome. does it work? [16:08] neeraj, see you soon. [16:09] wow [16:09] emulator is working better than it did in Ubuntu [16:09] completely amazing [16:09] dfarning,i am back [16:10] web browser is working good [16:10] currently in ubuntu. [16:10] nice, we will have to figure out what is going wrong with ubuntu and why [16:10] its now that I know how sugar is supposed to behave [16:12] let me try sugar session [16:14] kandarpk, cool. since ubuntu works much better on debian. It might be a good idea to focus on creating the documentation so everyone else can see how well it works. [16:14] ankurkhurana, how are you doing? [16:14] dfarning, i would be leaving early today , as it's my parents anniversary today, can you assign me the tasks so that i could get back to you after i am done with them? [16:15] dfarning, do we have only browse and read activity ? [16:15] dfarning, i am fine :) [16:15] hey ankurkhurana, wish them a happy anniversary [16:15] ankurkhurana, you are working in ubuntu 10.10? [16:15] dfarning: I am back.. I can work on packaging activities :) [16:16] no i am currently in 10.04 [16:16] with a virtual box running 10.10 [16:17] ankurkhurana, ok then the next task for you will be testing the sugar packages in 10.10. and then updating the as necessary [16:17] neeraj, great. [16:18] i would be adding sugar ppa in 10.10 and try to run xephyr in it after upgrading everything [16:18] ? [16:19] ankurkhurana, are their sugar packages available in 10.10 with out adding the ppa? [16:19] ankurkhurana, they might be auto synced from debian already [16:20] checking on it [16:23] dfarning, read activity failed to start [16:23] dfarning: can you guide me where should I start? [16:24] kandarpk, I belive that you will need to install activities manually with apt-get or synaptic. [16:24] dfarning, i can't upgrade sucrose because of browse activity. [16:24] didnt we remove the browse activity dependency? [16:26] kandarpk, can you write down the problems you come across and email them to me. I will talk to manu about the order he want to tackle them. [16:26] sure [16:26] dfarning, i am getting errors ,all those which we tried to solve in past few days.I suppose i will have to add ppa to get the latest version [16:26] have some other problems as well [16:27] ankurkhurana, exactly +1 ppa packages are for 10.04 so you will have to rebuild the necessary packages for 10.10 [16:28] neeraj, I would start by going to the debain activity package list [16:29] dfarning, got it, they will need repackaging and change in dput.cf file as well and then we upload them to our ppa [16:29] am i right? [16:29] Yes that is correct. [16:30] dfarning, any tutorials or link for that , sure i will search for them but i will be leaving now.so [16:31] pointers to perform the job.i will meet you in morning(IST) [16:32] ankurkhurana, it is exactly the same process as we used for building and uploading the packages to the ppa for 10.04 [16:33] okay [16:33] ankurkhurana, if you get lost on anything the other members of the team can help you.... that is way we are spending so much time cross training:) [16:35] dfarning, i was not exactly asking that, i was asking for keywords and changes. and surely that is a much smarter way. Shall i try to upload packages on my own, as i get it? i am sure if anything goes wrong it can be rectified or shall i wait for you tommorow evening? [16:36] also what time you will be coming from now on, your morning or evening? [16:37] ankurkhurana, I think that It will work better if I come for my evening add stay longer as needed. [16:37] dfarning, oh no... [16:37] ankurkhurana, go ahead and upload. it is impossiable to break anything. [16:37] kandarpk, yes. [16:38] dfarning, then i will be looking for you this evening. going now.Bye everybody tke care :) [16:38] I am not available in the morning(IST) most of the times [16:40] kandarpk, how about evenings starting around 7 or 8 your time. That will let me get a normal nights rest. [16:42] dfarning: Sorry for I ignorance but I guess you are talking about package listed here http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=sugar [16:42] kandarpk can you seen a quick email to jonas at the olpc-devel mailing list introducing your self and describing what you are doing. He is getting eager to meet you:) [16:43] sure [16:43] and its 9:15 here [16:44] so if you can come at around 8 [16:44] it will be great [16:44]