lex79this http://pastebin.com/gVbEq6i6 is the entry in dput.cf to upload a package into archive?00:25
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ScottKlex79: http://pastebin.com/r4vj9iAZ should be all that's needed.01:10
lex79ScottK: ok,thanks01:13
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CIA-99[nds] mwiese * 1144871 * (83 files in 33 dirs) Translation and maintenance06:10
DarthFrogWell, whatever was released today for KDE 4.5 RC really screwed up my system.  All I get now is a black screen. :-(07:14
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apachelogger2 exams to go and then I shall be able to partially focus on important things again \o/10:19
valoriehow close are you to your degree?10:21
apacheloggervalorie: (at least) 2 more years to BSc :/10:27
valoriehey, you are another year closer!10:27
apacheloggertrue :)10:27
valorieAND doing important work in tandem with that effort10:27
valoriebesides being fluffy10:28
NCommanderScottK: I'll take a loot today on it10:29
apacheloggerthere is nothing besides fluffy, see, everything is fluffy, be it on the outside or on the inside, fluff surrounds us, it forms us, it is the very essence of live10:29
valorievery true10:29
* valorie was wearing a boa just the other day10:29
apacheloggervalorie: did I mention that qtgain should have arrived in lucid-backports by now?10:31
valorieI'll look10:31
apachelogger!info qtgain lucid-backports10:31
ubottuqtgain (source: qtgain): graphical user interface for various "gain" utils. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.2-0ubuntu1~lucid1 (lucid-backports), package size 54 kB, installed size 164 kB10:31
valorieI looked a couple of days ago10:32
valoriebut haven't been home much10:32
valorieor sitting in front of a computer10:32
valoriewooo hoooo10:34
valorienot very intuitive, is it10:37
valorieoh well10:37
valoriedoesn't take long to do an album, though10:39
apacheloggervalorie: I told you that the UI is about as bad as it gets with regards to intuitivity :P10:40
valorieI hadn't seen it, just read about it10:40
valorieso at least i knew what to do10:40
valoriebut geez10:40
agateaupackaging noob question: is there a magic command line which would take the debian source package version $n and the tarball of $n+1 and create a new debian source package?10:48
tsimpsonagateau: have a look at uupdate10:52
agateautsimpson: looks good, thanks10:53
valoriethanks again for your work, apachelogger11:12
jussihrm weird. I have both ubntu and kubuntu installed, on different partitions. ubuntu installed the -pae kernel, and kubuntu the generic. what is the difference and why do ubuntu and kubuntu have differring kernels?11:24
Mamarokfor some strange reason neither my ssh-agent nor my gpg-agent are loaded on start, what do I do wrong?11:24
Mamarokand the ssh-agent forgets about my RSA key on every new start11:25
Mamarokwhat's with kde-config-phonon-xine? it's held back since 4.5 beta 111:56
Tm_Twhat is says if you try to install it?11:56
Tm_Tit should say what's up with its dependencies or other conflicts11:56
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stikonasshadeslayer: hi, I was trying to update to KDE 4.5 RC1 on lucid but I get lots of conflicts because of missing libqt4-assistant package, is there anything I can do to solve it?13:21
CIA-99[muon] jmthomas * 1144964 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MainWindow.cpp Context on a string that could be quite mysterious otherwise13:22
stikonasIt seems that libqt4-assistant just dissapeared and there are no transitional packages, so packages that depends on it causes conflics13:22
CIA-99[muon] jmthomas * 1144969 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MainWindow.cpp A bit less string construction on error13:25
* jussi waits for riddell to arrive13:39
CIA-99[muon] jmthomas * 1144995 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (10 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed)13:53
CIA-99Turn MuonStrings into a class that has the group and state string hashes as13:53
CIA-99member variables. This way we don't have to re-create the hash on each lookup,13:53
JontheEchidna^was 2% of the total CPU cost over the course of clicking 22 packages, now is 0%. Not much, but something :)13:57
CIA-99[muon] jmthomas * 1145002 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MuonStrings.cpp Follow the new-world branding order13:59
CIA-99[muon] jmthomas * 1145010 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (MuonStrings.cpp MuonStrings.h) Const correctness fixes14:11
CIA-99[muon] jmthomas * 1145015 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (ManagerWidget.cpp ReviewWidget.cpp) Hide the details widget when nothing is selected14:18
oxymoronHi, may I ask if someone have package rekonq 0.5 release yet? :)14:55
CIA-99[muon] jmthomas * 1145023 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MainWindow.cpp Use a KMessageBox::detailedError message box for commit errors, since that error has technical details15:01
JontheEchidna0.5 hasn't been released yet15:02
JontheEchidnathere is a daily ppa though: https://launchpad.net/~yoann-laissus/+archive/rekonq-ppa15:03
CIA-99[libqapt] jmthomas * 1145034 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/worker/workerinstallprogress.cpp Fix a bug where the error string would be cut off at ':'. (For example the overwrite error of a package that has an epoch in the version)15:37
CIA-99[muon] jmthomas * 1145041 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MainWindow.cpp Ensure that we can quit if we error out of a commit15:52
DarthFrogHow can I back out of KDE 4.5 RC?  I did a dist-upgrade yesterday (new kernel and a bunch of new KDE packages installed).  Now my machine boots to a black screen.  Even runlevel 1 & startx only black screens.15:53
oxymoronJontheEchidna: On http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/Extragear it says 30 june v0.5 to be released? :P15:53
JontheEchidnanote the (roughly) in the column name :P15:54
oxymoronJontheEchidna: So, could be in a week or so? :P Current status is crashes all the time for me ..15:56
JontheEchidnadunno, I'd ask them15:56
oxymoronJontheEchidna: Already did, but nobody exactly know and some problems is because of Webkit and QT framework sucks ... xD15:57
DarthFrogAha, I disabled auto-login and got to the KDM screen.  But there is no KDE menu entry to select. :-(15:58
DarthFrogJust default and failsafe.15:58
JontheEchidnalaunchpad is down16:00
JontheEchidna~order brain16:00
* kubotu shouts: OMG!!!!! RED ALERT! We lost a brain. Get me a medic, NOW!16:00
oxymoronDarthFrog: lol :D16:01
oxymoronJontheEchidna: Its Webkits fault that I cannot view a posted formular source code ... it show original source code in first post ...16:02
oxymoronJontheEchidna: But its a common problem in many browsers, the only one that solve that GOOD is firefox but it has other issues xD16:03
JontheEchidnawho was having those file overwrite errors with krita yesterday?16:17
JontheEchidna(just uploaded a fix, anyway)16:18
Riddellevening, coming live from finland16:24
Riddellwhat's the crack with alpha 2?16:24
* Trouble gives Riddell the microphone16:24
JontheEchidnaRiddell: there is bug 60063216:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 600632 in kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu Maverick Desktop Live shows Kubuntu Netbook desktop instead" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60063216:37
Riddellthat's a feature :)16:40
JontheEchidnawill there be a way to choose in the future?16:40
JontheEchidnalike what mario was talking about at UDS?16:41
Riddellit chooses based on screen size, you can swap after install through the kcontrol module16:44
Riddellwhich is what https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuMaverickPlasmaNetbookConfig says16:44
RiddellI commented on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/600632 but it showed up as jussi16:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 600632 in kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu Maverick Desktop Live shows Kubuntu Netbook desktop instead" [Undecided,Invalid]16:48
JontheEchidnathat is a bit strange16:50
RiddellJontheEchidna: what's strange about it?16:53
ScottKThat LP confuses you with jussi.16:53
Riddelloh right, my computer is broken so I'm using his and entirely forgot to log out16:54
Riddellshadeslayer: able to test any alpha 2 candidates?16:55
ScottKStill need an amd64 alternate test.16:56
RiddellI am downloading amd64 alternate but it's really slow here up in the arctic circle17:04
MamarokRiddell: Arctic Circle is some 1000 km more North, no?17:14
Mamarokand Finland is a country with large bandwith, how come it's slow for you?17:15
* ScottK suspects a bad luck interference pattern resonating from jussi.17:18
RiddellMamarok: I'm in Oulu so I'm only about 150km from the arctic circle17:23
Riddell(I just made that figure up it might be a bit more=17:23
Riddellhmm, Finish keyboards have keys in the wrong place17:24
RiddellScottK: being middle of nowhere city it's not the 100Mb you get in Helsinki but we tracked it down to a rouge ktorrent eating up bandwidth17:24
MamarokRiddell: OH, you are at jussi's place?17:27
Riddellyes, his little shack in the forest17:27
Riddellwell not really little, his sauna is bigger than my bathroom17:28
nixternalhot tub?17:28
Riddellhot tub's are so passe, saunas are all the rage these days17:29
DarthFrogSaunas are communal, bathrooms not so much. :-)17:30
* Mamarok has even more reason to cry now she is not in Finland :(17:31
ulyssesoh, it's alpha 2 day17:42
shadeslayerRiddell: aww.. sorry there,had a hackers-india meeting today :(17:57
lex79JontheEchidna: you should upload this fix after the freeze, bug 60072218:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 600722 in meta-kde (Ubuntu) "kde-standard: Depends: korganizer (>= 4:4.4.90) but it is not going to be installed" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60072218:01
lex79I cant, it's not in the set...18:01
shadeslayerRiddell: do you know kstar?18:03
shadeslayer( thats a nick,not a app :P )18:03
* shadeslayer cant believe the number of laptop stickers he saw today....18:04
RiddellI think I've come across kstar not much more18:04
shadeslayerRiddell: yeah.. i mentioned you,and he said that he had met you once :P18:04
shadeslayerRiddell: we met today.. hes coming to akademy18:05
Riddellah, maybe I do know him then :)18:10
shadeslayerRiddell: how much does a KDE t shirt cost at akademy ?18:11
RiddellI don't know, just depends on the local supplyer18:12
Riddell15euro maybe18:12
* shadeslayer is thinking of getting one through kstar18:12
=== ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Alpha 2 released! | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTutorialsDay Wed 7th July 18:00UTC | KDE 4.5 RC1 https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging | Lex is kubuntu-developer \o/
CIA-99[muon] jmthomas * 1145076 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/PackageModel/PackageDelegate.cpp "Broken" is a status, so put it in the status column18:33
stikonaslex79: hi, I was trying to update to KDE 4.5 RC1 on lucid but I get conflicts because of missing libqt4-assistant package, is there anything I can do to solve it?18:40
shadeslayerstikonas: whats the exact error?18:45
lex79stikonas: we removed that package from qt4-x11 in maverick for now (this mean also for beta backport), we are waiting for the new package18:45
* shadeslayer thinks we didnt update qtcreator18:45
lex79stikonas: do you have libqt4-assistant installed?18:45
stikonaslex79: I have it installed (version 4.6.3 I think)18:46
shadeslayerlex79: then we should have a replaces18:46
lex79shadeslayer: I have qtcreator ready18:46
lex79stikonas: try to remove it18:46
stikonasand some universe packages e.g. scidavis or qtiplot depends on it :(18:46
lex79for now, if you want use RC1 you can't have  libqt4-assistant installed18:47
shadeslayernow where have i heard scidavis before18:47
stikonasit is scientific plotting application18:48
stikonasok, so its either RC1 or libqt4-assistant. That was my error: http://pastebin.com/jZmDMKZM18:48
lex79shadeslayer: we don't need "replaces" since we don't ship libqt4-assistant files in archive :) not yet...18:51
shadeslayerlex79: why tho?18:51
lex79waiting Debian for this http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2010/06/22/qt-assistant-compat-version-available-as-extra-source-package/18:52
brmassaguys, im suffering from a bug vastly reported in ubuntu forums, but i couldnt find a solution: XOrg and Plasma constantly grow... is there a fix?19:06
shadeslayerbrmassa: heh..19:10
shadeslayerbrmassa: use a ligher WM19:10
brmassashadeslayer: the problem is the kdm?19:11
shadeslayerbrmassa: nooo19:11
shadeslayerbrmassa: KDM == login manager19:11
shadeslayerbrmassa: wm == window manager,like kwin19:11
brmassashadeslayer: what im reporting is a bug. both Xorg and plasma-desktop processes continually grow... even if the computer is idle.. they are now consuming 300m together..19:12
brmassashadeslayer: also they are consuming 20% CPU EACH19:12
* shadeslayer checks19:13
shadeslayerbrmassa: only 200 MB here.. but then its on for only a few hours19:13
brmassashadeslayer: even that. in older versions (that used kde3.5), u could left it running for days.19:14
shadeslayerbrmassa: well.. i dont know what could be causing the exact leak :(19:15
brmassashadeslayer: yep... there are several topics in forums... but i could not find a definitive solution19:16
brmassashadeslayer: btw: plama-desktop, in these few minutes, is now 30mb bigger19:17
amichairbrmassa: I had the same problem for a long time, but as of 4.4.4 (iirc) plasma no longer leaks19:17
amichairbrmassa: the ktorrent plasmoid leaks bad though, are you using it?19:17
brmassaamichair: im in 4.4.2, kubuntu 10.0419:18
amichairbrmassa: so upgrading might fix at least some of the problem19:18
brmassaamichair: nope. the only plasmoid are those installed by default: panel, clock, sys tray and folder view...19:19
amichairI still see xorg grow a bit, but nothing as bad as before19:19
brmassaamichair: 4.4.4 is on default repositories? i mean, officially supported?19:20
brmassaamichair: i can (and probably will) update, IF its the real cause of the leak...19:20
amichairit's in the kubuntu updates ppa19:20
amichairbrmassa: all I can help you with is my personal anecdote :-)19:21
brmassaamichair: thanks anyway19:21
amichairmy plasma would grow to 1G after a couple weeks of uptime. For months. It doesn't anymore, and an upgrade did that.19:21
brmassa1G! jezz!19:22
amichairbrmassa: btw as of a couple days ago kde 4.4.5 is in the ppa - even better :-)19:25
CIA-99[muon] jmthomas * 1145085 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/DetailsTabs/MainTab.cpp Confirm the removal of essential packages19:26
lex79ScottK, JontheEchidna: I can't upload kdebase-workspace :(19:33
shadeslayeri dont haz ubuntu.com mail address19:43
tsimpsonshadeslayer: it usually takes a couple of days to activate the address, but you can poke someone in #canonical-sysadmin if it hasen't happened19:46
shadeslayertsimpson: im following instructions from wiki,waited 2 days :P19:46
shadeslayerRiddell: poke : http://www.flickr.com/photos/pratulkalia/4752774284/ : "D20:17
shadeslayerthats from our hackers india meet today :P20:18
shadeslayerwell.. if anyone wants to see :P http://www.flickr.com/photos/pratulkalia/4752774284/20:18
shadeslayerhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/pratulkalia/4752801894/ : is a better one tho..20:19
CIA-99[muon] jmthomas * 1145102 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/DetailsTabs/MainTab.cpp ...also handle the case where a non-essential package is being removed. ;)20:19
shadeslayermaco: http://members.bas.org.in/kstar/himeetup/IMG_4579.JPG20:29
shadeslayerand http://members.bas.org.in/kstar/himeetup/IMG_4581.JPG20:29
shadeslayerstickers to cover the entire earth!20:30
neversfeldeofirk_: you wrote an article about Quassel in the Ubuntu wiki, right? I cannot find it, can you give me the URL? We probably want to translate it to German.21:27
ofirk_neversfelde: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Quassel21:27
neversfeldeofirk_: thanks21:28
shadeslayerofirk_: is your email alias working ?21:30
ofirk_shadeslayer: I'm not sure21:30
ofirk_didn't have time to test it?21:30
ofirk_shadeslayer: yours?21:31
ofirk_shadeslayer: the guide said that if you have gmail, you can't use it to send yourself an email21:38
macoRekonq crashes a lot :(21:40
ofirk_maco: indeed21:43
macoim trying not to install firefox in my maverick vm21:44
ofirk_shadeslayer: I just checked and the alias isn't working yet21:44
macothis means im doing a lot more web browsing from the windows host than i'd prefer to contribute to browser stats21:44
* maco goes to install user agent switcher21:44
ofirk_shadeslayer: the guide says to wait at least 48 hours and to give it a couple of days to be sure21:44
ofirk_shadeslayer: so I guess we will wait :)21:45
neversfeldeas far as I remeber it took more than two weeks, till my Ubuntu adress worked21:45
Riddelland what a sunny evening it is, 20 minutes to midnight and still broud daylight21:47
neversfeldeevening Riddell21:51
Riddellmeh, I can't put a story on kubuntu.org, browser keeps crashing21:54
Riddellclaydoh: any chance of an alpha 2 page?21:55
Sputmaco: there's also arora and chrome21:57
macoSput: ive used arora before. its sloooooowwww just like rekonq. loads a page halfway then sits there twiddling its thumbs for a while before going "huh? oh, were you waiting on ME?"21:58
* Sput still likes konqueror best tbh21:58
Sputlooks like they fixed facebook even21:59
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claydohRiddell: sure, if you don't mind a shorter one than usual22:06
Riddellclaydoh: switch to rekonq and merging desktop and netbook CD image are the headline ones22:11
claydohRiddell: the merging, what does that entail?22:12
Riddellclaydoh: one image which loads either desktop or netbook workspace based on screen size22:12
Riddellyou can switch with system settings if you don't like it22:13
* claydoh is behind the times, major inspection @ werk this week, which we nearly aced :)22:13
claydohRiddell: sweet feature22:13
claydohi am on it22:14
claydohas long as rekonq behaves :)22:15
nixternaloi oi22:54
lex79ScottK: kdeutils is in binary new https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeutils/4:4.4.90-0ubuntu223:50

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