[00:25] <lex79> this http://pastebin.com/gVbEq6i6 is the entry in dput.cf to upload a package into archive?
[01:10] <ScottK> lex79: http://pastebin.com/r4vj9iAZ should be all that's needed.
[01:13] <lex79> ScottK: ok,thanks
[06:10] <CIA-99> [nds] mwiese * 1144871 * (83 files in 33 dirs) Translation and maintenance
[07:14] <DarthFrog> Well, whatever was released today for KDE 4.5 RC really screwed up my system.  All I get now is a black screen. :-(
[08:49] <ghostcube> o/
[10:19] <apachelogger> 2 exams to go and then I shall be able to partially focus on important things again \o/
[10:21] <valorie> \0/
[10:21] <valorie> how close are you to your degree?
[10:27] <apachelogger> valorie: (at least) 2 more years to BSc :/
[10:27] <valorie> hey, you are another year closer!
[10:27] <apachelogger> true :)
[10:27] <valorie> AND doing important work in tandem with that effort
[10:28] <valorie> besides being fluffy
[10:28] <valorie> :-)
[10:29] <NCommander> ScottK: I'll take a loot today on it
[10:29] <apachelogger> there is nothing besides fluffy, see, everything is fluffy, be it on the outside or on the inside, fluff surrounds us, it forms us, it is the very essence of live
[10:29] <valorie> very true
[10:29]  * valorie was wearing a boa just the other day
[10:29] <valorie> lol
[10:30] <apachelogger> ^^
[10:31] <apachelogger> valorie: did I mention that qtgain should have arrived in lucid-backports by now?
[10:31] <valorie> I'll look
[10:31] <apachelogger> !info qtgain lucid-backports
[10:31] <apachelogger> voila
[10:32] <valorie> I looked a couple of days ago
[10:32] <valorie> but haven't been home much
[10:32] <valorie> or sitting in front of a computer
[10:34] <valorie> wooo hoooo
[10:34] <valorie> downloading
[10:37] <valorie> not very intuitive, is it
[10:37] <valorie> oh well
[10:39] <valorie> doesn't take long to do an album, though
[10:40] <apachelogger> valorie: I told you that the UI is about as bad as it gets with regards to intuitivity :P
[10:40] <valorie> yup
[10:40] <valorie> I hadn't seen it, just read about it
[10:40] <valorie> so at least i knew what to do
[10:40] <valorie> but geez
[10:48] <agateau> packaging noob question: is there a magic command line which would take the debian source package version $n and the tarball of $n+1 and create a new debian source package?
[10:52] <tsimpson> agateau: have a look at uupdate
[10:53] <agateau> tsimpson: looks good, thanks
[11:12] <valorie> thanks again for your work, apachelogger
[11:12] <valorie> niters
[11:24] <jussi> hrm weird. I have both ubntu and kubuntu installed, on different partitions. ubuntu installed the -pae kernel, and kubuntu the generic. what is the difference and why do ubuntu and kubuntu have differring kernels?
[11:24] <Mamarok> for some strange reason neither my ssh-agent nor my gpg-agent are loaded on start, what do I do wrong?
[11:25] <Mamarok> and the ssh-agent forgets about my RSA key on every new start
[11:56] <Mamarok> what's with kde-config-phonon-xine? it's held back since 4.5 beta 1
[11:56] <Tm_T> what is says if you try to install it?
[11:56] <Tm_T> it should say what's up with its dependencies or other conflicts
[13:21] <stikonas> shadeslayer: hi, I was trying to update to KDE 4.5 RC1 on lucid but I get lots of conflicts because of missing libqt4-assistant package, is there anything I can do to solve it?
[13:22] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1144964 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MainWindow.cpp Context on a string that could be quite mysterious otherwise
[13:22] <stikonas> It seems that libqt4-assistant just dissapeared and there are no transitional packages, so packages that depends on it causes conflics
[13:25] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1144969 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MainWindow.cpp A bit less string construction on error
[13:39]  * jussi waits for riddell to arrive
[13:53] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1144995 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (10 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed)
[13:53] <CIA-99> Turn MuonStrings into a class that has the group and state string hashes as
[13:53] <CIA-99> member variables. This way we don't have to re-create the hash on each lookup,
[13:57] <JontheEchidna> ^was 2% of the total CPU cost over the course of clicking 22 packages, now is 0%. Not much, but something :)
[13:59] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1145002 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MuonStrings.cpp Follow the new-world branding order
[14:11] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1145010 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (MuonStrings.cpp MuonStrings.h) Const correctness fixes
[14:18] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1145015 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (ManagerWidget.cpp ReviewWidget.cpp) Hide the details widget when nothing is selected
[14:55] <oxymoron> Hi, may I ask if someone have package rekonq 0.5 release yet? :)
[15:01] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1145023 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MainWindow.cpp Use a KMessageBox::detailedError message box for commit errors, since that error has technical details
[15:02] <JontheEchidna> 0.5 hasn't been released yet
[15:03] <JontheEchidna> there is a daily ppa though: https://launchpad.net/~yoann-laissus/+archive/rekonq-ppa
[15:37] <CIA-99> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1145034 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/worker/workerinstallprogress.cpp Fix a bug where the error string would be cut off at ':'. (For example the overwrite error of a package that has an epoch in the version)
[15:52] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1145041 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MainWindow.cpp Ensure that we can quit if we error out of a commit
[15:53] <DarthFrog> How can I back out of KDE 4.5 RC?  I did a dist-upgrade yesterday (new kernel and a bunch of new KDE packages installed).  Now my machine boots to a black screen.  Even runlevel 1 & startx only black screens.
[15:53] <oxymoron> JontheEchidna: On http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/Extragear it says 30 june v0.5 to be released? :P
[15:53] <JontheEchidna> :P
[15:54] <JontheEchidna> note the (roughly) in the column name :P
[15:56] <oxymoron> JontheEchidna: So, could be in a week or so? :P Current status is crashes all the time for me ..
[15:56] <JontheEchidna> dunno, I'd ask them
[15:57] <oxymoron> JontheEchidna: Already did, but nobody exactly know and some problems is because of Webkit and QT framework sucks ... xD
[15:58] <DarthFrog> Aha, I disabled auto-login and got to the KDM screen.  But there is no KDE menu entry to select. :-(
[15:58] <DarthFrog> Just default and failsafe.
[16:00] <JontheEchidna> aaaaah
[16:00] <JontheEchidna> launchpad is down
[16:00] <JontheEchidna> ~order brain
[16:00]  * kubotu shouts: OMG!!!!! RED ALERT! We lost a brain. Get me a medic, NOW!
[16:01] <oxymoron> DarthFrog: lol :D
[16:02] <oxymoron> JontheEchidna: Its Webkits fault that I cannot view a posted formular source code ... it show original source code in first post ...
[16:03] <oxymoron> JontheEchidna: But its a common problem in many browsers, the only one that solve that GOOD is firefox but it has other issues xD
[16:17] <JontheEchidna> who was having those file overwrite errors with krita yesterday?
[16:18] <JontheEchidna> (just uploaded a fix, anyway)
[16:24] <Riddell> evening, coming live from finland
[16:24] <Riddell> what's the crack with alpha 2?
[16:24]  * Trouble gives Riddell the microphone
[16:37] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: there is bug 600632
[16:40] <Riddell> that's a feature :)
[16:40] <JontheEchidna> will there be a way to choose in the future?
[16:41] <JontheEchidna> like what mario was talking about at UDS?
[16:44] <Riddell> it chooses based on screen size, you can swap after install through the kcontrol module
[16:44] <Riddell> which is what https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuMaverickPlasmaNetbookConfig says
[16:48] <Riddell> I commented on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/600632 but it showed up as jussi
[16:50] <JontheEchidna> that is a bit strange
[16:53] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: what's strange about it?
[16:53] <ScottK> That LP confuses you with jussi.
[16:54] <Riddell> oh right, my computer is broken so I'm using his and entirely forgot to log out
[16:55] <Riddell> shadeslayer: able to test any alpha 2 candidates?
[16:56] <ScottK> Still need an amd64 alternate test.
[17:04] <Riddell> I am downloading amd64 alternate but it's really slow here up in the arctic circle
[17:14] <Mamarok> Riddell: Arctic Circle is some 1000 km more North, no?
[17:15] <Mamarok> and Finland is a country with large bandwith, how come it's slow for you?
[17:18]  * ScottK suspects a bad luck interference pattern resonating from jussi.
[17:23] <Riddell> Mamarok: I'm in Oulu so I'm only about 150km from the arctic circle
[17:23] <Riddell> (I just made that figure up it might be a bit more=
[17:24] <Riddell> hmm, Finish keyboards have keys in the wrong place
[17:24] <Riddell> ScottK: being middle of nowhere city it's not the 100Mb you get in Helsinki but we tracked it down to a rouge ktorrent eating up bandwidth
[17:27] <Mamarok> Riddell: OH, you are at jussi's place?
[17:27] <Riddell> yes, his little shack in the forest
[17:28] <Riddell> well not really little, his sauna is bigger than my bathroom
[17:28] <nixternal> hot tub?
[17:29] <Riddell> hot tub's are so passe, saunas are all the rage these days
[17:30] <DarthFrog> Saunas are communal, bathrooms not so much. :-)
[17:30] <nixternal> haha
[17:31]  * Mamarok has even more reason to cry now she is not in Finland :(
[17:42] <ulysses> oh, it's alpha 2 day
[17:57] <shadeslayer> Riddell: aww.. sorry there,had a hackers-india meeting today :(
[18:01] <lex79> JontheEchidna: you should upload this fix after the freeze, bug 600722
[18:01] <lex79> I cant, it's not in the set...
[18:03] <shadeslayer> Riddell: do you know kstar?
[18:03] <shadeslayer> ( thats a nick,not a app :P )
[18:04]  * shadeslayer cant believe the number of laptop stickers he saw today....
[18:04] <Riddell> I think I've come across kstar not much more
[18:04] <shadeslayer> Riddell: yeah.. i mentioned you,and he said that he had met you once :P
[18:05] <shadeslayer> Riddell: we met today.. hes coming to akademy
[18:10] <Riddell> ah, maybe I do know him then :)
[18:11] <shadeslayer> Riddell: how much does a KDE t shirt cost at akademy ?
[18:12] <Riddell> I don't know, just depends on the local supplyer
[18:12] <Riddell> 15euro maybe
[18:12]  * shadeslayer is thinking of getting one through kstar
[18:33] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1145076 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/PackageModel/PackageDelegate.cpp "Broken" is a status, so put it in the status column
[18:40] <stikonas> lex79: hi, I was trying to update to KDE 4.5 RC1 on lucid but I get conflicts because of missing libqt4-assistant package, is there anything I can do to solve it?
[18:45] <shadeslayer> stikonas: whats the exact error?
[18:45] <lex79> stikonas: we removed that package from qt4-x11 in maverick for now (this mean also for beta backport), we are waiting for the new package
[18:45]  * shadeslayer thinks we didnt update qtcreator
[18:45] <lex79> stikonas: do you have libqt4-assistant installed?
[18:46] <stikonas> lex79: I have it installed (version 4.6.3 I think)
[18:46] <shadeslayer> lex79: then we should have a replaces
[18:46] <lex79> shadeslayer: I have qtcreator ready
[18:46] <lex79> stikonas: try to remove it
[18:46] <stikonas> and some universe packages e.g. scidavis or qtiplot depends on it :(
[18:47] <lex79> for now, if you want use RC1 you can't have  libqt4-assistant installed
[18:47] <shadeslayer> now where have i heard scidavis before
[18:48] <stikonas> it is scientific plotting application
[18:48] <stikonas> ok, so its either RC1 or libqt4-assistant. That was my error: http://pastebin.com/jZmDMKZM
[18:51] <lex79> shadeslayer: we don't need "replaces" since we don't ship libqt4-assistant files in archive :) not yet...
[18:51] <shadeslayer> lex79: why tho?
[18:52] <lex79> waiting Debian for this http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2010/06/22/qt-assistant-compat-version-available-as-extra-source-package/
[19:06] <brmassa> guys, im suffering from a bug vastly reported in ubuntu forums, but i couldnt find a solution: XOrg and Plasma constantly grow... is there a fix?
[19:10] <shadeslayer> brmassa: heh..
[19:10] <shadeslayer> brmassa: use a ligher WM
[19:11] <brmassa> shadeslayer: the problem is the kdm?
[19:11] <shadeslayer> brmassa: nooo
[19:11] <shadeslayer> brmassa: KDM == login manager
[19:11] <shadeslayer> brmassa: wm == window manager,like kwin
[19:12] <brmassa> shadeslayer: what im reporting is a bug. both Xorg and plasma-desktop processes continually grow... even if the computer is idle.. they are now consuming 300m together..
[19:12] <brmassa> shadeslayer: also they are consuming 20% CPU EACH
[19:13]  * shadeslayer checks
[19:13] <shadeslayer> brmassa: only 200 MB here.. but then its on for only a few hours
[19:14] <brmassa> shadeslayer: even that. in older versions (that used kde3.5), u could left it running for days.
[19:15] <shadeslayer> brmassa: well.. i dont know what could be causing the exact leak :(
[19:16] <brmassa> shadeslayer: yep... there are several topics in forums... but i could not find a definitive solution
[19:17] <brmassa> shadeslayer: btw: plama-desktop, in these few minutes, is now 30mb bigger
[19:17] <amichair> brmassa: I had the same problem for a long time, but as of 4.4.4 (iirc) plasma no longer leaks
[19:17] <shadeslayer> 0_o
[19:17] <amichair> brmassa: the ktorrent plasmoid leaks bad though, are you using it?
[19:18] <brmassa> amichair: im in 4.4.2, kubuntu 10.04
[19:18] <amichair> brmassa: so upgrading might fix at least some of the problem
[19:19] <brmassa> amichair: nope. the only plasmoid are those installed by default: panel, clock, sys tray and folder view...
[19:19] <amichair> I still see xorg grow a bit, but nothing as bad as before
[19:20] <brmassa> amichair: 4.4.4 is on default repositories? i mean, officially supported?
[19:20] <brmassa> amichair: i can (and probably will) update, IF its the real cause of the leak...
[19:20] <amichair> it's in the kubuntu updates ppa
[19:21] <amichair> brmassa: all I can help you with is my personal anecdote :-)
[19:21] <brmassa> amichair: thanks anyway
[19:21] <amichair> my plasma would grow to 1G after a couple weeks of uptime. For months. It doesn't anymore, and an upgrade did that.
[19:22] <brmassa> 1G! jezz!
[19:23] <amichair> yep...
[19:25] <amichair> brmassa: btw as of a couple days ago kde 4.4.5 is in the ppa - even better :-)
[19:26] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1145085 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/DetailsTabs/MainTab.cpp Confirm the removal of essential packages
[19:33] <lex79> ScottK, JontheEchidna: I can't upload kdebase-workspace :(
[19:43] <shadeslayer> grumble
[19:43] <shadeslayer> i dont haz ubuntu.com mail address
[19:44] <shadeslayer> anysysadmin^^
[19:46] <tsimpson> shadeslayer: it usually takes a couple of days to activate the address, but you can poke someone in #canonical-sysadmin if it hasen't happened
[19:46] <shadeslayer> tsimpson: im following instructions from wiki,waited 2 days :P
[20:17] <shadeslayer> Riddell: poke : http://www.flickr.com/photos/pratulkalia/4752774284/ : "D
[20:18] <shadeslayer> thats from our hackers india meet today :P
[20:18] <shadeslayer> well.. if anyone wants to see :P http://www.flickr.com/photos/pratulkalia/4752774284/
[20:19] <shadeslayer> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pratulkalia/4752801894/ : is a better one tho..
[20:19] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1145102 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/DetailsTabs/MainTab.cpp ...also handle the case where a non-essential package is being removed. ;)
[20:29] <shadeslayer> maco: http://members.bas.org.in/kstar/himeetup/IMG_4579.JPG
[20:29] <shadeslayer> and http://members.bas.org.in/kstar/himeetup/IMG_4581.JPG
[20:30] <shadeslayer> stickers to cover the entire earth!
[21:27] <neversfelde> ofirk_: you wrote an article about Quassel in the Ubuntu wiki, right? I cannot find it, can you give me the URL? We probably want to translate it to German.
[21:27] <ofirk_> neversfelde: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Quassel
[21:28] <neversfelde> ofirk_: thanks
[21:30] <shadeslayer> ofirk_: is your email alias working ?
[21:30] <ofirk_> shadeslayer: I'm not sure
[21:30] <ofirk_> didn't have time to test it?
[21:31] <ofirk_> shadeslayer: yours?
[21:31] <shadeslayer> nope
[21:31] <shadeslayer> :P
[21:38] <ofirk_> shadeslayer: the guide said that if you have gmail, you can't use it to send yourself an email
[21:40] <maco> Rekonq crashes a lot :(
[21:43] <ofirk_> maco: indeed
[21:44] <maco> im trying not to install firefox in my maverick vm
[21:44] <ofirk_> shadeslayer: I just checked and the alias isn't working yet
[21:44] <maco> this means im doing a lot more web browsing from the windows host than i'd prefer to contribute to browser stats
[21:44]  * maco goes to install user agent switcher
[21:44] <ofirk_> shadeslayer: the guide says to wait at least 48 hours and to give it a couple of days to be sure
[21:45] <ofirk_> shadeslayer: so I guess we will wait :)
[21:45] <neversfelde> as far as I remeber it took more than two weeks, till my Ubuntu adress worked
[21:47] <Riddell> evening
[21:47] <Riddell> and what a sunny evening it is, 20 minutes to midnight and still broud daylight
[21:51] <neversfelde> evening Riddell
[21:54] <Riddell> meh, I can't put a story on kubuntu.org, browser keeps crashing
[21:55] <Riddell> claydoh: any chance of an alpha 2 page?
[21:57] <Sput> maco: there's also arora and chrome
[21:58] <maco> Sput: ive used arora before. its sloooooowwww just like rekonq. loads a page halfway then sits there twiddling its thumbs for a while before going "huh? oh, were you waiting on ME?"
[21:58]  * Sput still likes konqueror best tbh
[21:59] <Sput> looks like they fixed facebook even
[22:06] <claydoh> Riddell: sure, if you don't mind a shorter one than usual
[22:11] <Riddell> claydoh: switch to rekonq and merging desktop and netbook CD image are the headline ones
[22:12] <claydoh> Riddell: the merging, what does that entail?
[22:12] <Riddell> claydoh: one image which loads either desktop or netbook workspace based on screen size
[22:13] <Riddell> you can switch with system settings if you don't like it
[22:13]  * claydoh is behind the times, major inspection @ werk this week, which we nearly aced :)
[22:13] <claydoh> Riddell: sweet feature
[22:14] <claydoh> i am on it
[22:15] <claydoh> as long as rekonq behaves :)
[22:54] <nixternal> oi oi
[23:50] <lex79> ScottK: kdeutils is in binary new https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeutils/4:4.4.90-0ubuntu2