[00:01] <Pingfloyd> the ppa 4.5rc comes up as 4.4.90 when installed
[00:46] <ridin> what i've heard from my logs there's a new kde version but it's not in kubuntu 10.04 by default
[01:20] <sweettooth> hello
[01:21] <sweettooth> can someone please look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/457621/ ? I'm trying to install MadWifi and I keep getting these errors.
[01:36] <snarkster> hi anyone alive in here?
[01:37] <Typos_King> what about dead ones?
[01:37] <snarkster> lol
[01:38] <snarkster> ive got 277,000 txt files in over 1100 directories that i need to consolidate into one directory, whats the best approach as drag and drop is not working
[01:41] <Typos_King> welll
[01:41] <Typos_King> bash :)
[01:41] <Typos_King> a quick for loop in  bash I'd think will do, what's the file structure?
[01:42] <snarkster> thats what i need a loop but im not skilled enough to do that
[01:43] <Typos_King> well, what do you have for files structure? :)
[01:43] <Typos_King> can you give us a quick 'ls -l' paste on them?
[01:44] <snarkster> /media/backup/MacDrive/2-raw/<1100 dir>/f0000000.txt
[01:44] <snarkster> i want to move them all to 1-sorted/office/txt
[01:45] <snarkster> this is a dead mac drive that I recovered, way to many txt files
[01:45] <Typos_King> wouldn't it make a conflict with 2 same-named files?
[01:45] <snarkster> over 277k txt files
[01:45] <snarkster> there are no two same named files
[01:46] <Typos_King> so each folder has 1 file? or so
[01:46] <snarkster> each folder has between 200 to 500 txt files in it
[01:48] <snarkster> is it something like if %1=*.txt then mv %1 /dest
[01:48] <snarkster> or so
[01:49] <Typos_King> ok
[01:49] <Typos_King> ..
[01:49] <BiggFREE> Hi
[01:49] <snarkster> hi bigfree
[01:50] <snarkster> oh!
[01:50] <snarkster> find $1 -type f
[01:51] <Typos_King> snarkster:    at the bash prompt :)
[01:51] <snarkster> right
[01:51] <snarkster> just learning this scripting thing.. I can recover data from dead hard drives, but cant write a script
[01:51] <snarkster> sheesh always putting the cart before the horse
[01:54] <Typos_King_> snarkster:   ark, got dc'ed :|
[01:54] <Typos_King_> anyhow
[01:54] <Typos_King_> snarkster:     mkdir ../temp; for folder in *; do cp $folder/* ../temp; done
[01:54] <Typos_King_> there
[01:54] <Typos_King_> I used cp, rather than mv, just to make sure if all goes well, then you can remove them
[01:55] <snarkster> Typos_King_: I just need the txt files not the dirs
[01:55] <Typos_King_> that's what is getting, $folder/*
[01:55] <Typos_King_> right
[01:55] <snarkster> when dealing with 277,000 files everything is slow
[01:56] <Typos_King_> well
[01:56] <Typos_King_> snarkster:   you can make that $folder/*.txt I gather
[01:56] <Typos_King_> or *txt eithe way
[01:59] <snarkster> followed you exactly got nothing
[01:59] <Typos_King_> have you checked temp?
[01:59] <Typos_King_> or ../temp that is
[02:00] <snarkster> its working, just not showing me anyhting
[02:00] <Typos_King_> right
[02:00] <Typos_King_> just let it finish then :)
[02:00] <snarkster> i did for %folder/*txt in *' do mv $folder/*txt /dest
[02:01] <Typos_King_> if you do a ls ../temp should show whatever it has so far, unless the cpu is quite taken up
[02:01] <snarkster> this all happening remotely
[02:01] <Typos_King_> hehe
[02:01] <snarkster> so i dont see anyhting
[02:01] <Typos_King_> not exactly what I typed :S
[02:01] <Typos_King_> thus
[02:01] <Typos_King_> unlesss  you meant that was a nested loop
[02:01] <snarkster> just got another prompt
[02:02] <Typos_King_> what's wrong with
[02:02] <Typos_King_> mkdir ../temp; for folder in *; do cp $folder/*txt ../temp; done
[02:02] <snarkster> i dont know what i mean, i just knew there was a way to move these files to the proper place with out doing a tools>find and taking an hour to locate 277k files that i can do nothing with
[02:03] <Typos_King_> mkdir ../temp; for folder in *; do cp $folder/*txt ../temp; done   <-- should do the trick
[02:03] <snarkster> but i dont need to make a directory I already have the proper place to put them
[02:03] <Typos_King_> well
[02:04] <Typos_King_> then when done, just move them over :)
[02:04] <snarkster> which is why i skipped that part
[02:04] <Typos_King_> no biggie, the temp is just that a temp
[02:04] <Typos_King_> the idea is, not to do 'mv' right away, since you can screw that part up, using 'cp', ensures you have a good source still if somethings goes awry
[02:05] <daedaluz> anyone having problems with 4.4.5 update? I don't. :3
[02:05] <snarkster> so i did: for $folder/*txt in *;do mv $folder/*txt /media/backup/macdrive/1-sorted/office/txt/ : will this work?
[02:05] <Typos_King_> yeah well
[02:05] <Typos_King_> that won't work
[02:05] <snarkster> damn
[02:05] <Typos_King_> you're using a variable without being initialized
[02:06] <Typos_King_> namely $folder
[02:06] <snarkster> ok
[02:06] <Typos_King_> thus
[02:07] <snarkster> i really need to learn bash scripting. LOL
[02:12] <moes> Kubuntu 10.04 w/kde 4....In previous version I could add wallpaper to different desktops...This does not seem possible with latest version is this because of Kde 4
[02:14] <daedaluz> moes: system settings > desktop > multiple desktops
[02:15] <daedaluz> moes: enable different activity for each desktop
[02:15] <Firefishe> How do I setup kde 4.4.4 to use nm-applet at startup rather than knetwork-manager and make it permanent?
[02:46] <xrfang> after upgrading to 4.4.5 from the ppa, most part of my desktop turns black, and start menu etc. appears on top of screen, how can I downgrade to 4.4.4?
[02:46] <ethola> how do i get in to the kde channel in irc ?
[02:46] <ethola> the official not the kubuntu channel i mean
[02:51] <ethola> ah now i got it
[02:57] <Reallycool> sometimes, my KDE doesn't wake up from sleep or lock, forcing me to force shutdown
[02:57] <Reallycool> any ideas why this is happening?
[03:22] <ybit> a friend of mine is trying to start an otr session with me in kopete but it freezes while generating a private key, any ideas what's going on?
[03:23] <macintux_> ybit: OTR always seems to freeze, probably its just gathering random data and just locking it up.
[03:23] <ybit> macintux_: any idea how to fix this problem?
[03:23] <ybit> no output is coming from the cli
[03:23] <ybit> when he attempts to start an otr
[03:23] <ybit> an otr session*
[03:24] <macintux_> ybit: I don't think there is a fix other than changing the programming. Happens on Windows/Mac/Linux as well.
[03:24] <macintux_> Adium, Pidgin, and apparently Kopete too.
[03:24] <ybit> that's sad, it works fine on my computer with other users, just not his computer..
[03:25] <macintux_> ybit: Mine always freezes while getting an IM just happens for a sec then were in business.
[03:25] <ybit> yeah, i know what you mean. this just doesn't generate a key. wish there was a way to generate some output so we know what's going on
[03:26] <macintux_> ybit: You can generate a key in the options.
[03:27] <macintux_> ybit: Have you tried launching kopete from the konsole?
[03:28] <ybit> macintux_: yes, no output
[03:28] <macintux_> ybit: Ahh okay. Not sure what to do.
[03:28] <ybit> also he's attempting to generate a key manually from the otr config menu but it's still freezing
[03:29] <ybit> i found a bug that describes what he is experiencing, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=237050
[03:29] <ybit> but nobody has responded
[03:29] <macintux_> ybit: Is it a relatively faster computer or a slow one? The keys generate using random data. If your generating a 4096bit key it takes a while.
[03:29] <ybit> it's twice as fast as mine
[03:30] <macintux_> ybit: Hmm, Thats really weird.
[03:32] <ybit> maybe his version of otr is older..going to install a newer version..maybe...
[03:33] <ybit> well, we'll try the older version since i think it's the newest version
[03:36] <macintux_> ybit: Do you really like Kopete? I personally prefer Pidgin.
[03:36] <ybit> yes, yes i do
[03:36] <ybit> and it's for my friend, not me good sir :)
[03:37] <ybit> it integrates nicely with the notifications dialogue
[03:38] <macintux_> ybit: Ahh, okay. I'm working on my programming skills I wish I could reprogram a lot of things in Linux.
[04:49] <timIRC> good morning ... anyone alive?
[04:53] <Takyoji> What's the default partition manager in Kubuntu?
[04:54] <timIRC> ... what the h*ll is EVERYTHING in kubuntu? :/
[04:56] <Takyoji> Specifically on 10.04
[04:57] <Takyoji> Because there's references to qtparted
[05:04] <ridin> takyoji: gparted?
[05:04] <ridin> the kubuntu cd has gparted, so
[05:05] <Takyoji> Awkward, because for some reason when I boot the 10.04 LiveCD, and try simply opening gparted via command line, it says it's not installed.
[05:05] <Takyoji> I suppose it could just be temporarily installed in RAM
[05:05] <JontheEchidna> partitionmanager (gparted is not on the CD. neither is partitionmanager, but...)
[05:05] <ridin> hm
[05:06] <ridin> i was talking about the ubuntu cd, then i guess
[05:07] <Takyoji> otherwise someone is complaining about slowness on a 512MB RAM system, with 3 simultaneous applications; does that sound a little abnormal or typical for that amount of RAM?
[05:07] <Takyoji> (I'
[05:08] <Takyoji> (I'm using 4GB of RAM, so I wouldn't know :P)
[05:08] <ridin> well, for kde, kinda
[05:10] <ridin> probably it'll feel like Vista with aero effects, 1gb of ram
[05:14] <dragonvial> jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze
[05:14] <dragonvial> i forgot how big of a pain in the arse a new linux install is
[05:14] <dragonvial> everytime you try to do something youre missing libs lol
[05:17] <Takyoji> Well, I haven't come across dependency hell ever. :P
[05:17] <dragonvial> everytime i try to ./configure i need something else lol
[05:17] <Takyoji> ahh, manual compilation
[05:17] <dragonvial> yeah
[05:17] <dragonvial> lol
[05:17] <dragonvial> the uh... package manager whats it called
[05:17] <Takyoji> That's always fun. :P
[05:18] <Takyoji> dpkg?
[05:18] <dragonvial> kpackagekit
[05:18] <dragonvial> it sucks, wont install anything, shows it, and lists the files, but gives me no option to get it
[05:18] <dragonvial> so im apt-get'ing
[05:19] <dragonvial> I'm originally a BSD guy... but its been a long time so im still just now remembering how to do anything actually lol
[05:21] <Takyoji> I've been curious of BSD for quite a while actually
[05:21] <Takyoji> Such as OpenBSD
[05:22] <Takyoji> of being able to sandbox X11 applications.
[05:30] <Khaotic> Takyoji:  i am programmer
[05:46] <Takyoji> So does anyone know of the default partition management GUI in Kubuntu then?
[06:07] <newboon2age_> does anyone know if ubuntuone is installed by default in Kubuntu and if not what steps to take to install it?
[06:24] <newboon2age_> Takyoji: when i look at my kubuntu menu i don't see one.  i'll check to see if gparted is present...
[06:29] <deathmage> hi, somebody speak spanish here ?
[06:29] <deathmage> is anybody from mexico  or spain ?
[07:03] <siwen> hello.
[07:05] <tuntu> hi
[07:06] <tuntu> kub 10.10
[08:17] <Reallycool> sometimes, my KDE doesn't wake up from sleep or lock, forcing me to force shutdown
[08:17] <Reallycool> any ideas why this is happening?
[09:02] <xrfang> how can I remove v4.4.5 and return to 4.4.4?
[09:05] <Guest39572> hey
[09:05] <Guest39572> whats java's package?
[09:06] <Vojtaeus> sun-java6-*
[09:08] <Guest39572> thank you so much
[09:11] <Khaotic> Couldn't find package sun-java6-*
[09:12] <Khaotic> Vojtaeus: Couldn't find package sun-java6-*
[09:13] <Vojtaeus> Khaotic: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=sun-java&searchon=names&suite=lucid&section=all
[09:14] <Vojtaeus> No, sorry
[09:14] <Vojtaeus> Wait
[09:15] <Khaotic> ok
[09:16] <Khaotic> Vojtaeus:  are you getting me the package?
[09:16] <Vojtaeus> Hm. I have packages sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre, sun-java6-plugin and sun-java6-fonts
[09:17] <Vojtaeus> From repository lucid/main
[09:17] <Vojtaeus> Khaotic: You have to find it :)
[09:20] <xrfang> I got a strange problem after upgrading to 4.4.5 (kubuntu ppa) that the bottom part (about 70%) of screen turns black.
[09:23] <snoob> Hi
[09:23] <snoob> I have Ubuntu, then i installed Kubuntu-desktop, now how to remove Gnome ?
[09:24] <moetunes> !purekde > snoob
[09:25] <snoob> Thanks
[09:28] <stix> Where are the "Restricted drivers" in KDE?
[09:28] <snoob> moetunes i use automated removal, is it neccesery to manual removal
[09:29] <moetunes> snoob: never tried it just know the bot link ;]
[09:29] <snoob> ok
[09:30] <snoob> how to custom prefer app?
[09:31] <snoob> ex: Use Chrome as My defalt Browers
[09:31] <Khaotic> whats the java package name?
[09:34] <snoob> is kde use compiz?
[09:35] <snoob> anyone???
[09:35] <Vojtaeus> snoob: KDE4 uses Kwin4
[09:35] <Vojtaeus> No compiz by default
[09:35] <snoob> how to choice defalt app
[09:35] <Vojtaeus> snoob: set prefered apps in KDE Control Center
[09:36] <Vojtaeus> snoob: Do NOT be impatient!
[09:44] <stix> Is there no terminal in kde?
[09:46] <Khaotic> there is
[09:46] <Khaotic> it is called konsole
[10:00] <Khaotic> how do i install java?
[10:37] <slow-motion> hi
[11:15] <TheKro> can anyone help me setup my compose key so it works properly?
[11:57] <stix> Why does nothing happen when I want to configure file sharing? Also when I run the command: "gksudo kcmshell4 fileshare" nothing happens
[12:03] <ctw> Hi -- does anybody here have any experience with (K)Ubuntu on the Lenovo Thinkpad X201?
[12:06] <gaetano> ciao
[12:07] <gaetano> qualcuno mi può aiutare per installare i driver nvidia 220gt su kubuntu 10?
[12:17] <SID> helloooo
[12:17] <SID> in need of a little help...
[12:17] <SID> i got Kubuntu installed....first of all i ran it from the live CD and it found my wireless network card and i was able to connect to my router...
[12:18] <SID> but now i have installed it to the hard drive, i do not see my wireless :/
[12:18] <SID> any ideas on how i enable it?
[12:18] <ArGGu^^> SID well thats odd :S
[12:18] <SID> yeah i know :/
[12:18] <SID> when i ran it from the live CD, i had to enable the driver
[12:19] <SID> but i dont see that option now
[12:19] <trysh> мне страшно
[12:20] <ArGGu^^> SID  have checked applications->system->hardware drivers?
[12:20] <ArGGu^^> *have you
[12:20] <SID> let me check..im new to linux so bare with me :P
[12:21] <SID> hmm...downloading package indexes failed, please check your network status, most drivers will not be available.
[12:21] <SID> then the box that pops up, both windows are empty
[12:24] <SID> thinkin i should hook it up to my pc via ethernet and share the connection to let it download the files it needs..
[12:25] <ArGGu^^> SID you could also try that but the kubuntu live cd in the dc/drive
[12:25] <ArGGu^^> *cd/dvd drive
[12:25] <SID> yeah its there
[12:26] <ArGGu^^> and then goto computer->kpackagekit->settings->edit software sources
[12:26] <ArGGu^^> it will ask your password
[12:26] <ArGGu^^> the select other software tab
[12:26] <ArGGu^^> *then
[12:27] <ArGGu^^> and check the cdrom checkbox
[12:27] <ArGGu^^> and click close
[12:27] <ArGGu^^> and then go to application->system->hardware drives
[12:28] <SID> im on it, just a sec :)
[12:29] <SID> now it doesnt give me that error
[12:29] <SID> but the two boxes are still empty
[12:29] <ArGGu^^> Well that odd :S
[12:30] <SID> if i click the connection icon in the tray...i see wireless 802.11
[12:30] <SID> but it does not see any networks
[12:31] <gaurav__> #globus
[12:34] <ArGGu^^> SID click connect to other network
[12:34] <ArGGu^^> Is there any networks?
[12:34] <SID> if i click that it brings up a box...asking me to enter the details myself
[12:35] <ArGGu^^> SID press alt+f2 and type konsole
[12:35] <ArGGu^^> in konsole type ifconfig
[12:36] <ArGGu^^> is there interface wlan?
[12:37] <SID> i see..
[12:37] <SID> eth0 and lo
[12:38] <ArGGu^^> ok SID type in the console lspci and paste the output in http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[12:38] <ArGGu^^> and paste the url in here
[12:40] <SID> ok just a sec
[12:42] <SID> http://paste.ubuntu.com/457798/
[12:46] <ArGGu^^> SID go to computer->kpackagekit->settings->edit software sources in the kubuntu software tab(the first tab)
[12:46] <ArGGu^^> Is the Proprietary drivers for devices (restricted) checked?
[12:46] <SID> yeah
[12:48] <ArGGu^^> SID ok go to computer->kpackagekit
[12:48] <ArGGu^^> and in software management
[12:48] <ArGGu^^> search package bcmwl-kernel-source
[12:48] <ArGGu^^> Does it find it?
[12:49] <SID> let me look
[12:49] <SID> ive hooked it up via ethernet for now and letting it update
[12:49] <SID> not sure if that will help it..
[12:53] <ArGGu^^> SID also check if finds package b43-fwcutter
[12:54] <SID> ok i will check when its finished updating
[12:54] <SID> wont let me search till its done
[13:01] <naftilos76> hi everyone! Here is a tricky question! How do i force two PCs (one desktop and one laptop) to have exactly the sames packages installed? The problem is that one of them is problematic regarding Openoffice and greek fonts and the other is fine! Can anyone help?
[13:05] <Atritas> naftilos76: use "dpkg --get-selections >packagelist" on the PC you use as base and "dpkg --set-selections <packagelist" on the PC you want to have exactly the same packages installed followed by a "sudo aptitude install" to actually install all packages.
[13:07] <naftilos76> Atritas: Αν το target μηχάνημα έχει παραπάνω πακέτα εγκατεστημένα; Προφανώς εκείνα θα μείνουν όπως έχουν, σωστά;
[13:07] <Atritas> naftilos76: english, please
[13:07] <naftilos76> oops!
[13:07] <naftilos76> sorry
[13:08] <naftilos76> Atritas: If the target PC has more pkgs installed, what will happen with those? Will they stay AS IS?
[13:09] <ArGGu^^> naftilos76 the only problem is using greek fonts in openoffice?
[13:09] <Atritas> naftilos76: the man pages says:
[13:09] <Atritas> --get-selections [package-name-pattern...]
[13:09] <Atritas>               Get list of package selections, and write it to stdout. Without a pattern, non-installed packages (i.e.  those  which  have  been
[13:09] <Atritas>               previously purged) will not be shown.
[13:09] <FloodBotK1> Atritas: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:10] <naftilos76> Atritas: Ok, ok man! Thanks a lot for your time!
[13:10] <howlymowly> hi poeple.. short question:  what is a good program with kde to record a screen session? I need to capture a video of my desktop....
[13:12] <Atritas> !recordmydesktop | howlymowly
[13:13] <Atritas> oops... well.. i use recordmydesktop for screencasting.
[13:19] <SID> ArGGu^^ tyvm for your help, got it working :D
[13:20] <ArGGu^^> SID ok :)
[13:20] <ArGGu^^> SID it worked after update?
[13:20] <SID> yeah after the update it checked for drivers and found my card :D
[13:21] <ArGGu^^> SID ok that good, but one thing still
[13:21] <ArGGu^^> SID uncheck the cdrom from other software
[13:22] <SID> ok done ;)
[13:23] <SID> does kubuntu have the add/remove part like ubuntu does?
[13:23] <SID> where i can just search for apps and click download?
[13:26] <ArGGu^^> SID no there is only the kpackagekit
[13:26] <SID> oh :/
[13:26] <ArGGu^^> but in kpackagekit there is filter where you can choose example games
[13:27] <SID> ah, i see
[13:30] <ArGGu^^> SID but you could install the ubuntu add/remove
[13:30] <SID> how could i do that?
[13:32] <ArGGu^^> installing package software-center, but it will install a lot of gnome apps.
[13:32] <ArGGu^^> example I think it will use gnome dialog for asking password and not the kdesudo
[13:33] <SID> right
[13:33] <SID> well, im not sure weather to stick with kubuntu or check out the others just yet anyway
[13:33] <SID> so ill check it out as it is for a while first ;)
[13:34] <ArGGu^^> SID with command sudo aptitude --without-recommends install software-center it will leave lots of gnome packages from installing
[13:34] <ArGGu^^> so maybe it will work with kdesudo
[13:34] <ArGGu^^> I will try
[13:37] <t1y45y6> Any body... How i can switch/add opensuse channel on kubuntu
[13:37] <yener> hay
[13:37] <yener> weher
[13:40] <anode> so, so I have an eeepc 1005ha here, I boot up live disk, Mouse doesn't work
[13:40] <anode> what should I do?
[13:42] <bentob0x> what do you use to display amarok's current file number and  title on the task bar ?
[13:47] <georges-albert> join/ #namurlug
[13:49] <legodude> I'm running 10.04 and am having trouble with my ipod touch, the system does not really seem to recognize it
[13:49] <legodude> I can't get amarok or rhythmbox to see that it exists
[13:49] <legodude> running 3.1.3 on ipod
[13:55] <ubuntu_> ghbdtn
[13:57] <anode> I have an eeepc 1005ha here, I boot up live disk, Mouse doesn't work. what's going on??
[13:58] <BluesKaj> !ipod | legodude
[13:59] <legodude> BluesKaj: read that
[14:00] <BluesKaj> reading is one thing , did you follow the suggestions?
[14:00] <legodude> yes
[14:00] <legodude> there is not much there in terms of debugging
[14:01] <BluesKaj> sorry legodude , not an ipod owner , so I can't help, maybe someone else can.
[14:02] <legodude> thanks anyway
[14:04] <legodude> it shows up in lsusb
[14:04] <legodude> and as a camera device
[14:08] <BluesKaj> legodude, driver?
[14:11] <legodude> BluesKaj: ?
[14:13] <BluesKaj> perhaps a linux driver for the ipod , i had to install the moto for my phone (altho I have the same prob , some kind of bug )
[14:13] <legodude> well, that is part of my problem
[14:13] <legodude> libimodibledevice is somehow involved
[14:13] <BluesKaj> it sees my phone , but not the dirs
[14:13] <legodude> as are other things
[14:14] <legodude> but I don't know how it all hooks together
[14:14] <legodude> so I can't debug it
[14:14] <legodude> fuse was involved at some point
[14:15] <BluesKaj> yeah , well I just use the windows side of my pc for devices that won't work on linux , altho my phone is the only one I can't get to work.
[15:06] <slow-motion> bye
[15:22] <Mehrab> Hi, my newly installed kubuntu 10.04 eats up my home folder disk space. after I reboot it takes about 30 minutes to remain no space on my home folder, what is that?
[15:26] <Mehrab> how can I see what is eating up that free disk space?
[15:50] <Idhan> is there a good alternative to gwenview? doesn't show the videos properly.. only pictures
[16:05] <DarthFrog> Idhan: dragonplayer
[16:07] <Idhan> DarthFrog: thank you!
[16:25] <xrfang_> after install kde4.4.5 the composition feature is broken, how can I check what's the problem and fix it? thanks
[16:30] <slinker1> system settings desktop effects under worksapce appearance
[16:36] <xrfang_> slinker1: I know, but after I enable it it gets disabled automatically
[16:38] <slinker1> ahh what video card?
[16:57] <xrfang_> slinker1: I use ati xpress 200m, card is not a problem, because it works well until this upgrade, and btw, is there a way to check "history" of recent apt-get upgrades?
[17:00] <slinker1> good question i usually check prior to ....
[17:00] <slinker1> does it accept the change till log out?
[17:52] <pingveno> I forget, is there a way to adjust the screen brightness/join python
[17:52] <pingveno> uh
[17:53] <pingveno> oops
[18:04] <Torch> pingveno: try power management in system settings
[18:10] <slow-motion> hi
[18:39] <brmassa> guys, im suffering from a bug vastly reported in ubuntu forums, but i could find a solution: XOrg and Plasma constantly grow... is there a fix?
[18:41] <brmassa> ...but i COULDNT find a solution...
[19:04] <frosties> yo tout le monde comment on remait les miniatures le les ai suprime en bas a droite  ( je suis sous kubuntu 10.04 lbs )
[19:04] <Pici> !fr | frosties
[19:05] <frosties> dsl
[19:05] <frosties> ji vais
[19:26] <starwatcher> hi all, is there a utility to remove old kernels and update grup?
[19:27] <Hygo> ...
[19:29] <James147> starwatcher: apt-get or aptitude can... or anmy other package manager :S
[19:30] <starwatcher> thanks, just thought that ubuntu had it's own utility
[19:31] <James147> starwatcher: never heard of one that does that :s
[19:32] <starwatcher> maybe I am just used to using sidux that had smxi to do it via terminal
[19:32] <James147> starwatcher: easiest way I have found is to use aptitude to search for the kernal version
[19:32] <starwatcher> ok that will work, thatnks again
[20:56] <Bro_Max> hi
[21:22] <csgeek> so.. here's an interesting question.  It seems like all my keyboard shortcuts aren't working.
[21:23] <csgeek> alt+tab is dead.  alt+f2 .. it seems all the global shortcuts aren't working
[21:23] <csgeek> right click on the desktop and select run works.. but the kbd shortcut for it doesn't.. I double checked...and reset everything to default.. still same behavior
[21:26] <tdn> I have just installed the available updates today. Including new kernel packages. This broke the video driver. What gives? Are others experiencing this too? How do I fix it?
[21:35] <Iggy__> @tnd run system>hardware drivers you have to do this everytime you upgrade the kernel
[21:47] <Torch> tdn: run dkms status from a shell
[21:47] <Torch> tdn: also, are you running virtualbox?
[21:47] <Torch> tdn: their latest update broke dkms on my system
[21:47] <tdn> Torch, I have virtualbox installed but not using it right now.
[21:47] <Torch> tdn: doesn't matter, if you got their faulty update, dkms might be broken
[21:47] <Torch> tdn: then it won't upgrade your video driver on a new kernel.
[21:48] <tdn> Torch, http://paste.adora.dk/P1707.html <- dkms status
[21:48] <Torch> tdn: not broken
[21:48] <Torch> tdn: also, you have the correct video driver for the latest kubuntu kernel, it seems
[21:48] <tdn> Torch, note, this is from 2.6.32-22-generic (which I have booted to now).
[21:48] <tdn> Torch, should I run dkms from the new broken kernel?
[21:48] <Torch> tdn: no. makes no difference
[21:48] <tdn> Ok.
[21:49] <tdn> Torch, what is dkms?
[21:49] <Torch> tdn: we need more info on what is actually broken
[21:49] <tdn> Torch, as you can see, I have nvidia driver installed also. How do I active that?
[21:49] <Torch> tdn: dynamic kernel module system or sth like that. installs kernel modules after kernel upgrades, i think originally invented by dell, no less.
[21:49] <tdn> Ok.
[21:50] <Torch> tdn: it should be active without intervention. what exactly is not working?
[21:52] <tdn> Torch, well, after I rebooted after installing the updates available today, the first thing I noticed was that the prompt at boot asking me to enter LUKS crypto passphrase was broken. The bootup resolution was very low.
[21:53] <tdn> Torch, then it started up X. Everything was very slow. I tried opening a video in SMPlayer but it wouldnt play. Then I tried opening a video in mplayer directly. It was so slow that everything was in slow motion. Then I tried VLC: the same.
[21:53] <tdn> Torch, Also, everything felt very slow.
[21:53] <tdn> Torch, then I booted back to 2.6.32-22-generic. Now it is as before.
[21:53] <Torch> tdn: i see. can you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log from such a slow X session?
[21:54] <Torch> tdn: from the outside we won't be able to diagnose this or repair it. run the broken kernel.
[21:54] <tdn> Torch, I Torch would that be /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old ?
[21:54] <tdn> Torch, http://paste.adora.dk/P1708.html
[21:54] <Torch> tdn: no, i don't think. it keeps overwriting it, iirc.
[21:55] <tdn> Torch, that file seems to be modified in the time I booted up in the new kernel that didnt work.
[21:55] <Torch> (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Thu Jul  1 20:58:41 2010
[21:55] <Torch> tdn: does that seem correct to you?
[21:55] <tdn> Torch, I have no idea.
[21:56] <Torch> tdn: the time
[21:56] <tdn> Torch, for comparison, here is http://paste.adora.dk/P1709.html
[21:56] <tdn> Torch, the new one.
[21:56] <tdn> Torch, yes. It was exactly around nine o clock.
[21:57] <Torch> (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[21:57] <Torch> that's the culprit.
[21:57] <Torch> now, why does that happen ;-)
[21:58] <Torch> tdn: can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, if you have it?
[21:58] <tdn> Torch, I have none.
[21:58] <Torch> tdn: ok, i see.
[21:59] <tdn> Torch, I have a (maybe related) problem also. I would very much like to be able to enable desktop effects. But I can't.
[21:59] <tdn> Torch, with nouveau.
[21:59] <Torch> tdn: now, (k)ubuntu wizards to the rescue.... i don't use (k)ubuntu's way of configuring X11, so i cannot tell you what to do next.
[21:59] <Torch> tdn: one step after the other
[21:59] <Torch> tdn: you're not using nouveau, you're aware of that?
[22:00] <Torch> tdn: at least you told your system to use the nvidia driver
[22:00] <tdn> Torch, I am now? I am not with the new kernel. Correct?
[22:00] <tdn> Torch, http://paste.adora.dk/P1710.html
[22:00] <tdn> ^ lsmod |grep nouveau
[22:01] <Torch> tdn: wait, wait... you said on your working kernel you were using nvidia's drivers.
[22:01] <tdn> Torch, doesnt that mean I use nouveau.
[22:01] <Torch> tdn: no.
[22:01] <Torch> tdn: nvidia's drivers are the dkms thingy
[22:01] <tdn> Torch, no. I am on 2.6.32-22-generic now. This is the old kernel. It works. and I use nouveau here.
[22:01] <tdn> Torch, ok.
[22:01] <Torch> tdn: so where and when did you install the nvidia driver?
[22:02] <Torch> tdn: you must have done it, it's not installed per default
[22:02] <Torch> tdn: threre's also nothing wrong with it, you just need to decide what you want to have ;-)
[22:02] <tdn> Torch, I installed it because I thought it would make desktop effects work.
[22:03] <tdn> Torch, I followed some of the advice here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-nv/+question/113332
[22:03] <Torch> tdn: to clear this up, there's nouveau which is open source. it does have no 3d to speak of and some 2d acceleration. kde's desktop effects somewhat work with it, albeit a little slowly.
[22:03] <Torch> tdn: some people claim it works very well for them.
[22:04] <Torch> tdn: it does not for me.
[22:04] <tdn> Torch, I cannot even enable desktop effects in KDE. I get an error.
[22:04] <Torch> tdn: nvidia's driver has support for 3d and desktop effects should just work. however, their driver has a lot of bugs that hurt kde performance badly and nvidia don't seem to show any interest in fixing them.
[22:05] <tdn> Torch, my main problem with nouveau is that it makes my graphics card become extremely hot. So hot that I cannot have my laptop on the lap. Hotter than the CPU.
[22:05] <Torch> tdn: ouch, oh no.
[22:05] <Torch> tdn: you didn't add repositories?
[22:05] <tdn> Torch, which one?
[22:05] <Torch> tdn: like, in the first comment on that launchpad page.
[22:06] <tdn> Yeah tried. Didnt work.
[22:06] <Torch> tdn: but you probably got a broken nvidia driver still
[22:06] <tdn> Probably.
[22:07] <tdn> Torch, I did install the nvidiaglx package as suggested on launchpad.
[22:07] <Torch> tdn: remove it
[22:07] <tdn> Torch, but it did not allow me to enable desktop effects. It seemed that nouveau was still in use after nvidia drivers was installed.
[22:07] <tdn> Torch, aptitude purge nvidia-glx-185?
[22:07] <Torch> tdn: yes. it doesn't work that way.
[22:07] <Torch> tdn: if that's the package name (and the command, i use apt-get)
[22:08] <tdn> Torch, it is purged now.
[22:08] <Torch> tdn: dkms status does not list nvidia anymore?
[22:08] <tdn> http://paste.adora.dk/P1711.html
[22:08] <tdn> dkms status
[22:08] <tdn> Two nvidia entries
[22:08] <Torch> tdn: purge nvidia-current
[22:08] <tdn> Ok.
[22:09] <Torch> tdn: you should see dkms remove it too when you do that, i think.
[22:09] <tdn> Removing all DKMS Modules
[22:09] <Torch> tdn: yep
[22:09] <tdn> http://paste.adora.dk/P1712.html <- dkms shows no nvidia
[22:09] <Torch> tdn: very good.
[22:10] <Torch> tdn: now boot the new kernel and hope for the best ;-)
[22:10] <tdn> I will try. BRB.
[22:10] <Torch> tdn: it might still be broken during boot and the LUKS thing though.
[22:10] <Torch> tdn: like, too low resolution
[22:10] <Torch> tdn: that's a different matter
[22:10] <Torch> tdn: or at least i think it is ;-)
[22:13] <tdn> Torch, ok, still very low resolution in bootup prompt.
[22:13] <tdn> Torch, and then followed by black screen. Cannot Alt+F2 into a console either.
[22:13] <tdn> No X.
[22:13] <Torch> tdn: yuck.
[22:13] <tdn> http://paste.adora.dk/P1713.html
[22:13] <tdn> xorg.0.log
[22:14] <tdn> I have ssh open to the machine now. Anything I shuold try?
[22:15] <tdn> Torch, any hope that it will work if I boot up in the old kernel?
[22:15] <Torch> tdn: well, nouveau doesn't work
[22:16] <Torch> tdn: it should. but that won't fix it for you in the long run.
[22:16] <anode> I just loaded up kubuntu and couldn't help but notice that my mouse was/is either disabled or just doesnt work.. How can I go about diagnosing this problem?
[22:16] <tdn> Torch, I was in #ubuntu-beginners earlier today. It seems that other users are experiencing the same after this kernel upgrade.
[22:16] <Torch> tdn: hrm, ok, maybe you just cannot do anything at this point.
[22:16] <anode> I'm grabbing the normal ubuntu and will install kde from there, but do you tink i'll have the same problem?
[22:16] <tdn> anode, try the mouse in another computer.
[22:17] <tdn> Torch, :(
[22:17] <anode> tdn: it's my touchpad on my netbook o_O
[22:17] <Torch> tdn: you can still install the nvidia driver (the _REGULAR_ one, not from a ppa) from your old kernel
[22:18] <Torch> tdn: i have the nvidia driver and the newest kernel update and it all works
[22:18] <tdn> anode, ok. Then try to download an Ubuntu live cd image and put it on a USB stick with unetbootin. Then boot the livecd and check if the problem is still there. If so, then maybe the touchpad is broken. If not, then it is a softwareproblem that can be fixed.
[22:18] <tdn> Torch, you mean the one from nvidia.com website?
[22:19] <Torch> tdn: no.
[22:19] <Torch> tdn: the one from "install hardware drivers" or sth like that in the menu in kde
[22:19] <Torch> tdn: that's the one that should always work.
[22:19] <Torch> tdn: unless you have a super-new nvidia card.
[22:20] <tdn> Torch, it is not new.
[22:20] <anode> tdn: well see, I'm doing that already.. I already know the touchpad works since I've been using it in windows/slackware..
[22:20] <anode> tdn: i'm downloading the regular ubuntu just to see
[22:20] <Torch> tdn: then either get nouveau working again or just install that.
[22:21] <Torch> anode: please stop calling the gnome-based variant regular around here.
[22:21] <tdn> anode, oh. Ok. Then it is software. I am not sure how to debug mouse driver issues.
[22:21] <Torch> anode: also, there'susually no difference in hardware support beteween kubuntu and ubuntu.
[22:21] <tdn> anode, try opening a question on launchpad.
[22:21] <anode> tdn: well, I'm calling it regular because it's not kubuntu... just ubuntu
[22:21] <Torch> anode: right. those are names, nothing more.
[22:22] <Torch> anode: there's nothing regular about ubuntu. it's just a name.
[22:22] <anode> okay.......... it's just not "ubutnu"... anyways
[22:23] <anode> Torch: opeing a question on launchpad?
[22:23] <anode> tdn: *
[22:23] <tdn> Torch, is this something I should be concerned with: http://p.adora.dk/PCURRENT.html
[22:23] <tdn> ?
[22:24] <tdn> anode, http://answers.launchpad.net
[22:24] <Torch> tdn: no, just some process having a bug, i guess.
[22:25] <tdn> But kwrited
[22:25] <Torch> tdn: is some kde thingy, not a kernel thingy
[22:25] <tdn> Thats a kernel process, right?
[22:25] <Torch> tdn: no
[22:25] <tdn> Ok.
[22:26] <Torch> tdn: the name is unfortunate.
[22:26] <tdn> It does not say 'kwrite' but 'kwrited'
[22:26] <Torch> tdn: i know, it's still a kde thingy ;-)
[22:26] <Torch> tdn: and the name is still unfortunate. very much so.
[22:26] <tdn> Torch, ok.
[22:26] <tdn> Torch, Phew.
[22:27] <Torch> tdn: don't panic ;-)
[22:28] <tdn> Torch, I won't. I have my towel ;)
[22:28] <tdn> Is anyone using these PPAs http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.4.3 ? Do you recommend them?
[22:31] <newboon2age_> question: how do we install the UbuntuOne client on Kubuntu?
[22:33] <ridin> sudo apt-get install ubuntuone-client-gnome ?
[22:35] <newboon2age_> ridin: thank you i'll give that a wack....
[22:39] <Torch> tdn: updates within the same kde minor version are generally safe
[22:39] <Torch> tdn: like from 4.4.x to 4.4.y
[22:39] <Torch> tdn: don't update to 4.5 if you want your system running stably
[22:40] <Torch> tdn: also, kudos for recognising the HHG quote ;-) not so common anymore these days.
[22:45] <okapi14> hi all, anyone ever experienced kubuntu screens being black? you launch application from a terminal but plasmoid desktop completely black you can not see your desktop?
[22:45] <ridin> no, plasma just crashes and restarts again
[22:46] <okapi14> ridin: how?
[22:47] <ridin> okapi14 idk
[22:48] <ridin> okapi14, try entering plasma-desktop in the terminal
[22:49] <okapi14> ridin: wonderfull. it is work
[22:49] <ridin> no problem.
[22:49] <tdn> Torch, :)
[22:51] <tdn> Torch, how would I remove the kernel in which nouveau does not work?
[22:51] <Torch> tdn: you cannot, really.
[22:51] <tdn> Torch, so I do not need to select a different kernel on each boot.
[22:51] <tdn> Torch, oh.
[22:52] <tdn> Torch, is there a way to make grub post the boot menu then? Like grub 1 did?
[22:52] <Torch> tdn: ubuntu's set up in a way that it always installs newer kernels because they're security updates.
[22:52] <okapi14> ridin: I have this dynamic background that shows the moon. When I zoom in/out that where plasma crash. Do you have an idea why?
[22:52] <Torch> tdn: it's all a lot more complicated with grub2
[22:52] <tdn> Torch, yeah, I know.
[22:52] <Torch> tdn: you can just edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg, but that will get overwritten
[22:53] <Torch> tdn: tjere
[22:53] <Torch> oops
[22:53] <tdn> Torch, but I can press shift and esc on boot to show a boot menu. Is there any way to just have it shown for 3 seconds or something like that? It was easy with grub1.
[22:53] <Torch> tdn: there's probably a better way, but i wouldn't know
[22:53] <Torch> tdn: hmm, still shows for me. but i've heard that's not default anymore. dunno what i did to get that ;-)
[22:54] <tdn> Torch, I dont know the format of /boot/grub/grub.cfg. It does not look like menu.lst.
[22:54] <tdn> Torch, ok.
[22:54] <Torch> tdn: yeah, also, there's no setting for the default entry there. gotta be somewhere else, let me look.
[22:55] <tdn> Torch, I think it should be possible to change this kind of settings from System Settings in KDE.
[22:55] <tdn> Torch, no need for the user to manually edit these files.
[22:55] <Torch> tdn: it's in /etc/default/grub
[22:55] <tdn> Not for such basic stuff.
[22:55] <Torch> tdn: meaning it won't get overwritten, it's a real config value
[22:56] <tdn> Torch, ok. What do I need to change?
[22:56] <Torch> tdn: the interaction between KDE and the OS is not so simple (KDE is available for many OSes, including windows and mac)
[22:56] <Torch> tdn: edit that file and set GRUB_DEFAULT to the entry you want to boot per default, i guess.
[22:57] <Torch> tdn: then re-generate /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[22:57] <tdn> Torch, yeah, but then Kubuntu devs should make such integration.
[22:57] <tdn> Torch, how? grub-install ?
[22:57] <tdn> Torch, update-grub?
[22:57] <Torch> tdn grub-mkconfig > /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[22:57] <Torch> tdn: iirc ;-)
[22:58] <Torch> tdn: i don't do all this every day.
[22:58] <Torch> tdn: the kubuntu devs would love to do all that if there were enough of them, i'm sure.
[22:59] <okapi14> how can you play video on terminal or tty1?
[22:59] <Torch> okapi14: you need some kind of graphical output for a video, you're aware of that?
[23:00] <Torch> (disregarding mplayer's ascii output for a moment ;-)
[23:01] <okapi14> torch: yes, but being on on of the terminal I guess it is impossible?
[23:01] <Torch> okapi14: without an X server running, generally yes, impossible.
[23:02] <okapi14> Torch: why generally? There is exception?
[23:02] <Torch> okapi14: what do you really want to do?
[23:03] <Torch> okapi14: describe your problem.
[23:05] <okapi14> Torch: I want run or work only in terminal (no GUI) and do everything in terminal. So I was wondering if is possible to play movie too
[23:06] <Torch> okapi14: use konsole for your work ;-)
[23:06] <Torch> okapi14: a GUI is a good thing to have.
[23:07] <okapi14> Torch: :)) your funny with good advise. So I will use both then...:)
[23:07] <nixbxo> hi all
[23:08] <nixbxo> i am trying to configure dual monitors on kubuntu, if i use xrandr it crashes X, i have also tried doing it through "System Settings -> Display"
[23:09] <Torch> nixbxo: kubuntu version? kde version? graphics card? driver?
[23:12] <okapi14> hi all, I have a webcam made by logitch (quickcam fusion)  but is not working. Anyone can help?
[23:12] <nixbxo> Torch: Kubuntu 10.04, KDE 4.4.2, Graphics card Intel 82945G, driver i915
[23:13] <slow-motion> n8
[23:13] <Torch> nixbxo: (i won't be able to help you, i don't have such a card, but without that information no one will help you)
[23:16] <petr_> hallo
[23:17] <assssplusplus> hello
[23:17] <assmanplusplus> hello
[23:18] <assmanplusplus> how to install apache module mode_rewrite ?
[23:18] <assmanplusplus> cammon babyes!  tell me guys!
[23:19] <assmanplusplus> My fucking apache have not this module!  it is paradoxe!
[23:19] <assmanplusplus> fucking default indtalletion
[23:19] <assmanplusplus> helllloooo
[23:19] <assmanplusplus> is somebody here?
[23:20] <Torch> assmanplusplus: calm down. now.
[23:21] <assmanplusplus> if you sre gay - continue to be silent
[23:21] <assmanplusplus> calm?
[23:21] <assmanplusplus> ok
[23:21] <Torch> !op
[23:21] <assmanplusplus> stoppp!!!ubottu !! I am first
[23:22] <assmanplusplus> imbizils
[23:22] <assmanplusplus> cocroaches
[23:22] <assmanplusplus> imbeciles
[23:23] <assmanplusplus> is here cockroaches only ?
[23:29] <assmanplusplus> bye