[00:11] <zkriesse> hey Phrea
[00:12] <Phrea> sorry, I had to try something :)
[00:12] <Phrea> 'lo zkriesse
[00:17] <Math932903> zkriesse: I found a way to have the volume icon and clicked on "sound preferences" from there but it gives me the same dialog as before
[00:17] <zkriesse> Math932903: hmm
[00:17] <zkriesse> Math932903: ok post your question in here again....i've got many projects so i'm in and out intermittently
[00:18] <Math932903> zkriesse: basically, I have a sound issue with flash videos
[00:18] <Math932903> sound works fine with everything else, so I looked about and there are tons of different ways people have fixed the issue
[00:19] <Math932903> I tried many but to no avail
[00:20] <Math932903> I found this one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=973637 and it seemed too good to be true so I wanted to try it out but I can't find the stuff that guy talks about
[00:22] <Math932903> I have the latest flash plugin, but it may bind to the wrong sound interface
[00:30] <Math932903> zkriesse: nevermind, I'm just tired of this issue. it's been there for months, I spent countless hours trying to fix this problem, I guess I'll just reboot in winxp and forget about playing flash videos under ubuntu
[00:31] <zkriesse> Math932903: stick around
[00:31] <zkriesse> i'm sure there's someone who can
[00:32] <Math932903> I tried so many things
[00:32] <zkriesse> Math932903: ok well just wait.
[00:32] <zkriesse> i'm sure we can get it working
[00:32] <zkriesse> patience is key
[00:32] <Math932903> zkriesse: alright
[00:44] <Math932903> zkriesse: thanks for your time, my patience is out
[00:44] <Math932903> in another life maybe!
[01:41] <win_2_linux> what is the difference between ubuntu software center and the synaptic package manager
[01:42] <pedro3005> synpatic is more detailed and advanced, I suppose
[01:42] <pedro3005> the software center is simple and easier to use
[01:51] <ibuclaw> software centre makes it possible to break your system without adequate prevention. >:)
[01:58] <yvan300> can anyone help me out?
[02:00] <yvan300> anyone know how to install wifi drivers without using the hardware driver interface?
[02:35] <win_2_linux> thanks for the definition between software center and synaptic
[02:36] <win_2_linux> can you really damage your computer using software center
[02:36] <stlsaint> win_2_linux: improperly maybe yes
[02:37] <win_2_linux> oh i'll use synaptic then
[02:37] <stlsaint> win_2_linux: even synaptic can be damaging
[02:37] <stlsaint> if used improperly :D
[02:39] <win_2_linux> then whats the safest apt-get aptitude?
[02:39] <stlsaint> nothing is safe if used improperly =D
[02:39] <yvan300> can you guys helpe me with my wireless problem?
[02:40] <pedro3005> win_2_linux, just be sensible and nothing will happen
[02:40] <stlsaint> pedro3005: hehe
[02:40] <pedro3005> any damage caused with apt-get is likely to be an easy fix
[02:41] <stlsaint> meh, may have a few broken dependencies or packages...nothing serious
[02:41] <pedro3005> yvan300, which wifi driver?
[02:44] <yvan300> pedro3005 well, i'm not really sure, usually i would just use the hardware driver interface for ubuntu, but since i don't have internet atm, i want to know if i could download the driver froma another pc and install it manually offline.
[02:45] <pedro3005> yvan300, well, I believe Hardware Drivers also detects which driver you need, so to install manually the first step would be figuring out that
[02:46] <ibuclaw> stlsaint, idk ... I managed to cause a wee bit of breakage with software center rather easily. ;)
[02:46] <yvan300> ok, atm i have windows on my laptop...... so therotically, if i knew what the driver was, what then?
[02:47] <ibuclaw> removing one of the gnome card games, for instance, broke the package manager because every other gnome game depended on it. But it was still removed anyway without any error checking.
[02:47] <pedro3005> yvan300, find it here http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[02:47] <stlsaint> ibuclaw: lol...tsk tsk....see if used improperly! :D
[02:48] <stlsaint> ibuclaw: tbh honest i have barely used software center for anything
[02:49] <ibuclaw> I probably say this for every application that just so happens to be programmed in python, but...
[02:50] <ibuclaw> software center is slow for it's task.
[02:52] <ibuclaw> I have even said this for command-not-found too...
[02:54] <stlsaint> THIS IS WHAT I GET FOR USING SOMETHING NOT IN THE REPOS!!!!!!
[02:54] <stlsaint> http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/4938/windowsbs.png
[02:54] <stlsaint> i got that message via skype out of nowhere!!!
[02:54] <stlsaint> duanedesign: ^^
[02:54] <stlsaint> ibuclaw: ^^^
[02:54] <stlsaint> pedro3005: ^^
[02:55] <pedro3005> lolwut?
[02:55] <stlsaint> pedro3005: you see the screenshot?
[02:55] <pedro3005> yes
[02:55] <stlsaint> Yea i dont even have not one windows install on my system
[02:56] <stlsaint> i even removed the recovery partition of my harddrive to give space to ubuntu!!!!
[02:56] <stlsaint> GGGRRRRRAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
[02:57] <ibuclaw> stlsaint, it's the multiverse ... what did you expect?
[02:57] <ibuclaw> *and* - you are using non-free software
[02:58] <stlsaint> ibuclaw: thats the key
[02:58] <stlsaint> non-free
[02:58] <stlsaint> i never used it before until a close friend just deployed overseas so i got skype! i just installed it yesterday and i regret it already!
[02:59] <stlsaint> these scare tactics are just pathetic...i mean cmon, they could at least implement some way to scan the system and get a os fingerprint as in nmap!!! or something!!
[02:59] <stlsaint> well im out folks...night
[03:05] <yvan300> pedro3005 ok , so this is the driver i need to download http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/broadcom-sta-common
[03:05] <yvan300> just wondering if the recommends are important
[03:05] <yvan300> ?
[03:07] <pedro3005> yvan300, what recommends?
[03:09] <yvan300> on, the site, they give you a link to the driver, and also have 2 other packages that they recommend, one is the source and the other is a tool for easier creation of module packages
[03:09] <pedro3005> yvan300, no need to get them
[03:10] <yvan300> ah cool, thanks pedro3005
[03:19] <nUboon2Age> yvan300: if that tool was fwcutter you'll probably need the recommends.
[03:20] <yvan300> nUboon2Age the driver provided with fwcutter, is a bit buggy, i get a lot of dropped connections
[03:20] <nUboon2Age> yvan300: never mind i looked at it and its something else..
[03:21] <nUboon2Age> yvan300: ah, i got you..
[03:21] <yvan300> but anyways everyone, i'm off to install ubuntu, see ya all in 15 minutes
[03:21] <nUboon2Age> yvan300: btw, what adapter is it?
[03:21] <yvan300> well, don't know off hand, broadcom somthing.......
[03:22] <nUboon2Age> yvan300: sorry, i see your off... hope to hear good things soon...
[03:22] <yvan300> :)
[03:22] <Anarai> Hi; I just wanted to know how do I deactivate a video driver if this video driver doesn't work well on my pc.  Last time I try to activate an NVIDIA driver, X failed to start
[03:30] <Anarai> How to unactivate nvidia drivers?
[03:30] <nUboon2Age> !nvidia | Anarai  -- this may give some help (I don't have an nVidia card so i don't have experience that could help you)
[03:30] <ubot2> Anarai  -- this may give some help (I don't have an nVidia card so i don't have experience that could help you): For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:31] <Anarai> thanx
[03:32] <Anarai> i'll check
[03:32] <nUboon2Age> Anarai: did you check the forums?  I've seen a lot of discussion there about nVidia drivers.  Also i know there nVidia has a linux support forum web site.
[03:32] <nUboon2Age> so ubuntuforums.org and lets see if i can find the nvidia one...
[03:33] <Anarai> I tried to activate the drivers that "hardware drivers" recomends
[03:33] <nUboon2Age> nvnews.net    -- and maybe someone else here knows more...
[03:35] <nUboon2Age> i see there's also #nvidia irc chat...
[03:35] <nUboon2Age> Anarai: so what happens when you try to activate the drivers?
[03:36] <Anarai> after I reboot X wont start and get me to the prompt
[03:36] <nUboon2Age> Anarai: so you end up at the shell prompt?
[03:36] <Anarai> yes
[03:38] <nUboon2Age> Anarai: i'm not sure what your course of action should be, but i should point out that if you get stuck like that you may be able to get many things fixed by booting from a liveCD.
[03:39] <nUboon2Age> Anarai: probably even before that point, you'll be able to just log in and change a configuration file to get you back to where you can boot into the gdm again...
[03:39] <nUboon2Age> Anarai: but i don't know which are the relevant configuration files...
[03:40] <Anarai> Iḿ running ubuntu studio.  can I use the regular ubuntu live cd to correct the problem?
[03:42] <nUboon2Age> Anarai: the page i mentioned above gives some instructions on the Xorg.conf file.
[03:43] <Anarai> Yes; i was reading it...
[03:44] <nUboon2Age> Anarai: yes, the regular ubuntu disk would work.  I think you may be able to just log in and go to edit the Xorg.conf file to comment out the driver you just installed and then reboot and go from there (just a quick guess, not for sure)...
[03:45] <Anarai> I think I tried that... unsuccessfully...
[03:46] <nUboon2Age> geirha: duanedesign: kermiac: nhandler: are any of you familiar with Xorg.conf and nVidia drivers?  Anarai has questions...
[03:46] <nUboon2Age> holstein:  collinp  ^^^
[03:53] <Anarai> thanx for the help. I will try a few things... b back later...
[04:14] <kermiac> hey nUboon2Age, what's up mate?
[04:39] <nUboon2Age> kermiac: well you might have seen my post that my system is working again thanks to you all in the Beginners team (ddecator being especially noteworthy)
[04:40] <nUboon2Age> kermiac: i ended up going without the i915.modeset=0 setting and just having it say splash.
[04:41] <nUboon2Age> kermiac:  i want to try something... i'm trying to publish a file via Ubuntu One, could you try to get it at http://ubuntuone.com/p/8Ro/
[04:42] <kermiac> glad to hear you got it working nUboon2Age :)
[04:42] <kermiac> ok, looking now
[04:43] <kermiac> nUboon2Age: I got BeginUbuntu.rtf - the file opened ok. what about it?
[04:43] <nUboon2Age> hmmm... i just tried opening it and somehow the formatting got messed up..  but the first thing was just to see if others could get and open it...
[04:45] <kermiac> nUboon2Age: yeah, the formatting doesn't look right - but it opened in office 2007 (via crossover) on my work pc so I thought it the formatting issue may have been caused by ms office & crossover
[04:47] <kermiac> nUboon2Age: the formatting looked a bit better using open office :)
[04:49] <nUboon2Age> kermiac: in open office on my machine (which is where/how it got created(!)) the line about * select 'Try Ubuntu...' is in 40 point instead of the 12 point its supposed to be in.  Is that the same for you?
[04:51] <nUboon2Age> I keep saving a new version w/o that and hopefully it will sync up soon and the problem will be solved...
[04:51] <nUboon2Age> kermiac: i discovered the hard way that OpenOffice seems to have a bug (at least saving in rtf) where the point size can get messed up...
[04:55] <kermiac> nUboon2Age: in ms office the "Try Ubuntu" line is in 12point, in openoffice it is 40 point - very strange
[04:55] <ddecator> nUboon2Age: you are pro at finding random bugs that don't seem to affect many people..
[04:56] <win_2_linux> nuboon2age so you got your other problem repaired?
[04:56]  * kermiac waves at ddecator
[04:56] <kermiac> hey there Dray :)
[04:56]  * ddecator waves at kermiac 
[04:56] <ddecator> hey Mitch :)
[05:03] <kermiac> nUboon2Age: that rtf in m$ office - http://imgbin.org/images/1976.png   The same rtf in openoffice - http://imgbin.org/images/1977.png
[05:03] <kermiac> neither seems right
[05:04]  * kermiac is getting called away, BBS
[05:22] <nUboon2Age> ddecator: ha, that's funny.  :) just got your message...
[05:28] <nUboon2Age> win_2_linux: yes, i got it working and posted about it... at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1519312
[05:28] <nUboon2Age> win_2_linux: what is your blog url again?
[05:28] <win_2_linux> www.linuxfromwin.wordpress.com
[05:30] <nUboon2Age> win_2_linux: pretty cool, i'll show it to my gf who's on the verge.
[05:32] <win_2_linux> i just started it the other day, three postings on my impressions but it has pictures LOL
[05:32] <nUboon2Age> kermiac: wow, that's different even than what I'm getting.
[05:32] <nUboon2Age> win_2_linux: i like nixie pixel's stuff too. :)
[05:35] <nUboon2Age> ddecator: i give you extra credit for sticking w/ me so late/early the other night.  i hope my/your experience w/ this will come in handy for others in future...
[05:35] <ddecator> nUboon2Age: oh i'm sure it will :)
[05:36] <kermiac> nUboon2Age: any reason you're using rtf instead of odt? also, what version of open office are you using?
[05:36] <kermiac> nUboon2Age: I'm using open office 3.2 (lucid standard version) & I can save the 'Try Ubuntu' line in 12point
[05:37] <win_2_linux> yea of all the vids i've watched on linux she's the one who explained it plainly as if she was having a conversation with you
[05:38] <win_2_linux> nUboon yours will when I get to the chapter of UBUNTU IRC CHANNEL HELPS DESPERATE FRUSTRATED UBUNTU USER SOLVE HIS PROBLEM lol
[05:38] <nUboon2Age> kermiac: i think i'm going to move to a different computer/nick... hang on...
[05:38] <nUboon2Age> win_2_linux: oh yeah!
[05:38] <win_2_linux> title pending of course
[05:38] <win_2_linux> thats just a rough draft lol
[05:39] <win_2_linux> as I learn and discover things it'll go on my blog
[05:41] <win_2_linux> so tell me, Uboon where r you from what city, town, country
[05:41] <win_2_linux> NY here
[05:41] <win_2_linux> and what do you like about linux and why'd you make the switch?
[05:43] <newboon2age_> kermiac: i want to be able to share it w/ Windoze users who haven't started using OpenOffice yet so i figure .rtf is less objectionable than .doc  .
[05:44] <win_2_linux> actually .doc would be better since a lot of windows user do have word
[05:44] <win_2_linux> or word viewr
[05:44] <win_2_linux> viewer and openoffice does have a windows version
[05:44] <win_2_linux> wordperfect used to have a linux version but they have discontinued it for some reason
[05:45] <kermiac> newboon2age_: fair enough. but also, as win_2_linux says - .doc is a widely accepted format too. I was just curious :)
[05:45] <kermiac> newboon2age_: what version of openoffice are you creating that rtf in?
[05:46] <newboon2age_> kermiac: i actually created it on the same version of OO that you're looking at it on.  Even on the same machine i had different results from when i first saved it to closing OO, double clicking the file and looking at it again.  although, after i fixed it that time that took care of most of the errors.  Also OO seemed to save to .doc okay.
[05:46] <newboon2age_> kermiac: that's the one from Lucid...
[05:47] <kermiac> newboon2age_: ok, that's strange. I don't really work with .rtf's so I haven't noticed that issue before. I usually save in either .odt or .doc
[05:50] <newboon2age_> kermiac: win_2_linux: the way i see it, using .doc keeps people stuck in the m$ world.
[05:51] <win_2_linux> yes but if they're in the windows world already why not make it easier on them and just give them .doc since they probably use word anyway :)
[05:52]  * win_2_linux doesn't think anyone uses rtf anymore that was sooo win3.11 or so
[05:53] <newboon2age_> kermiac: win_2_linux: ooo i just tried to retrieve the file again from another computer (Kubuntu) and it said 'receiving corrupt data' .  I'm guessing its UbuntuOne syncing, but that's a bummer.
[05:53] <kermiac> newboon2age_: I see your point, but I'm not really sure that I agree... .doc is fairly widely accepted & is easily opened in openoffice
[05:54] <newboon2age_> win_2_linux: but its totally open.  I don't think there's another widely available open file format like it.
[05:55] <win_2_linux> now may I suggesst instead of using Ubuntu one--very expensive for 50 gig--you may wont to use safecopybackup which gives you 3 gig for free and 200 gig for $50 for the year
[05:55] <newboon2age_> kermiac: m$ continues to break .doc each time they rev it to keep everyone feeding at the m$ trough.
[05:56] <win_2_linux> ok may I suggest .txt then  thats universal or even .html
[05:56] <kermiac> newboon2age_: than why not use .odt?
[05:56] <newboon2age_> win_2_linux: i'll check it out.  I'm not stuck on UbuntuOne, but i'm trying to use all the Ubuntu Lucid features so i can help others with them.  The old 'eat your own dogfood' thing...
[05:56] <kermiac> newboon2age_: I just re-deownloaded the .rtf - the formatting looks better now
[05:57] <newboon2age_> kermiac: gf has Word.  Doesn't open .odt that i know of.
[05:57] <win_2_linux> i understand, but safecopybackup doesn't just cater to ms
[05:57] <win_2_linux> or windows its for everyone
[05:57] <newboon2age_> win_2_linux: that's cool.
[05:57] <win_2_linux> yeah I've been meaning to question why manufacturers don't throw in linux with their windows and mac things
[05:58] <kermiac> newboon2age_: there's an odt plugin for ms office - http://www.windowsreference.com/ms-office/how-to-open-odt-files-in-microsoft-word-20072003/
[05:58] <win_2_linux> since mac uses the unix kernel anyway
[05:58] <newboon2age_> kermiac: you're able to get it before i can.  It could be a Konqueror error i suppose...
[05:59] <win_2_linux> so newboon2age what is your gfs beef with linux or Ubuntu
[05:59] <newboon2age_> kermiac: that's great to know.  That will help my gf for sure.  Thanks!!!
[05:59] <kermiac> newboon2age_: possibly, I know IE is having issues with U1 public urls, I don't know about Konqueror
[05:59]  * win_2_linux finds openoffice is just as easy to use and does about everything he used word for 
[05:59] <kermiac> newboon2age_: np, that plugin helped people at work during our transition to linux
[06:00] <win_2_linux> ie crashes alot
[06:00] <newboon2age_> kermiac: wow, you're whole office migrated??? Let's hear more about that.  Inspiring!
[06:01] <kermiac> newboon2age_: actually, all of the offices australia wide are now running a customised Ubuntu SOE now :)
[06:02] <kermiac> we just recently finished upgrading everyone to our new 10.04 image
[06:02] <win_2_linux> so MS lost its Australian market
[06:02] <win_2_linux> what happened?
[06:02] <win_2_linux> so here's a questtion I should pose in all the linux channels
[06:03] <win_2_linux> if Ms suddenly gave windows for free, and said we could put it on as many machines we liked at home...would you ditch linux for windows
[06:04] <newboon2age_> kermiac: which company is that? or are you talking all companies in Au?
[06:07] <kermiac> win_2_linux: not yet, there are still plenty of other companies in Australia running windows. But the company I work for are all linux based now. It was relatively easy to convince management though. They were faced with the prospect of changing to linux or paying for for all new licenses as they were still using win 2000
[06:08] <kermiac> newboon2age_: it's one company - i wont spam the name of it here, I can PM you a link to the company website if you waqnt though
[06:08] <newboon2age_> kermiac: yes please...
[06:09] <kermiac> win_2_linux: absolutely not! the monetary cost is not the only reason why i do not use windows - I like to be able to modify whatever i want in my OS
[06:09] <newboon2age_> kermiac: opened a query w/ you
[06:10] <win_2_linux> i think thats what ms is afraid of, that someone would be able to take their os, and make so much better, no crashes, build it totally different instead of the nerds there, and they can't handle that
[06:11] <win_2_linux> in fact from what I read-could just be rumor or fantasy-that ms is threatened by Linux
[06:11] <win_2_linux> and ibm is threatened by open source
[06:17] <newboon2age_> win_2_linux: in a sec i'll come back and answer your question...
[06:17] <newboon2age_> kermiac: which distro did your company use?
[06:18] <kermiac> we are now running Ubuntu 10.04... we've been running Ubuntu on almost all our internal desktops & laptops internally since 9.04
[06:20] <newboon2age_> kermiac: heck if your company has a PR person they could write an article about it and we could push it.
[06:21] <newboon2age_> kermiac: not having to run windoze at work... that is so fantastic.  I can't tell you how great that would be.
[06:34] <win_2_linux> every windows machine on any company I worked for had to be rebooted two three times aday if used during busy times...not very productive and annoying
[06:38] <newboon2age_> win_2_linux: please see pm
[06:41] <newboon2age_> win_2_linux: did you see my query?
[06:50] <kermiac> ok, time to leave work & head home... BBL
[08:34] <newboon2age_> kermiac: i emailed you some text as a start for an article...  have fun with it.
[08:34] <newboon2age_> kermiac: gnite
[08:34] <kermiac> ok, thanks newboon2age_ ttyl :)
[11:37] <pombreda> hwody : on 8.04 server lts : sudo fsck.ext3  /dev/sdb1   e2fsck 1.40.8 (13-Mar-2008) e2fsck: Superblock invalid, trying backup blocks... e2fsck: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sdb1 ...
[11:37] <pombreda> :|
[11:37] <pombreda> what can I do to get that fs back in shape?
[11:38] <pombreda> the server was rebootedd after the raid card crashed
[11:39] <pombreda> this is an 8TB ext3 filesystem
[11:39] <Silver_Fox_> pombreda, Hello
[11:39] <pombreda> howdy
[11:40] <Silver_Fox_> I would try the options presented by bumanie here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6116065&postcount=4
[11:43] <pombreda> Silver_Fox_: I am a moron sdb1 is the swap :D
[11:43] <pombreda> thx!
[11:44] <pombreda> or rather sounds like the sdxx numbers did change with the reboot
[11:45] <Silver_Fox_> Okay
[11:46] <pombreda> it used to be  /dev/sdb1 and is now /dev/sdd1 :/
[11:46] <pombreda> how can this happen?
[11:47] <Silver_Fox_> I'm not sure to be honest.
[11:48]  * Silver_Fox_ is researching
[11:50] <pombreda> Silver_Fox_: my df, fdisk and fstab output: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/wRgapL1uSzoBqDdcjn0g/
[11:52] <Silver_Fox_> pombreda,  Query - have you also started a thread on ubuntu forums yet?  If not I would advise you to so.
[11:52] <Silver_Fox_>  *to do so
[11:54] <pombreda> Silver_Fox_: thx
[11:54] <pombreda> will do
[12:02] <lukjad> Silver_Fox_ !
[12:02] <lukjad> Silver_Fox_ How are you? :D
[12:04] <Silver_Fox_> I've been better, but that is not important.  How are you lukjad  ?
[12:05] <lukjad> Silver_Fox_ Going to the dentist :(
[12:05] <lukjad> Other than that...
[12:16] <Silver_Fox_> Welcome back pombreda .
[12:16] <Silver_Fox_> Other than that how are you lukjad  ?
[12:16] <lukjad> Silver_Fox_ Good, good
[12:16] <lukjad> Heading out the door
[12:17] <pombreda> Silver_Fox_: got it all figured out. Not sure why the /dev/device number changed, but I updated my fstab to use the more stable UUID :P
[12:17] <lukjad> Toodles
[12:17] <pombreda> Silver_Fox_: fsck.exxt3 got the fs fixed allright :P
[12:17] <Silver_Fox_> Good pombreda
[12:18] <Silver_Fox_> I have no idea why the device number changed
[12:18] <Silver_Fox_> Really odd
[12:18] <Silver_Fox_> See you lukjad
[12:18] <pombreda> Silver_Fox_: neither do i, but UUID should be safe. I got my 8 missing terabytes back
[12:20] <Silver_Fox_> Oh my word,  8TB...
[13:19] <duanedesign> hello Silver_Fox_
[13:43] <Silver_Fox_> Hello duanedesign
[13:43] <Silver_Fox_> How are the fingers? :)
[13:58] <philinux> What up with forums today?
[13:59] <Silver_Fox_> Spring cleaning
[13:59] <Silver_Fox_> >:)
[14:00] <Silver_Fox_> And a tornado :)
[14:02] <philinux> Something up, nor new posts. I can't post a new thread but can edit old ones.
[14:06] <Silver_Fox_> Indeed,  I expect the issue is known and the right people told about it philinux .
[14:06] <Silver_Fox_> I would like to think that it is being looked into
[14:07] <philinux> I'm on the staff but not an admin.
[14:07] <philinux> I was hoping and admin was in here.
[14:07] <Silver_Fox_> No,  no admin is here at the moment,   the only one who visits is bodhi and he is not always around.
[14:09] <Silver_Fox_> jdong is usually in #ubuntuforums philinux ,  though I imagine he would also be in the ubuntu forums staff channel also
[14:10] <philinux> I'm in the staff channel too, first place I went but no admins on :O
[14:11] <Silver_Fox_> I've just checked philinux, jdong is in #ubuntuforums channel
[14:12] <philinux> Cheers just joined
[14:14] <Silver_Fox_> No worries philinux .
[14:32] <sjshaw361> I just tried Ubuntu 10.04 using a boot disc and using the trial option
[14:32] <sjshaw361> I choose the boot menu and then from CD
[14:32] <sjshaw361> Ubuntu loaded fine
[14:32] <sjshaw361> When I was done I closed out
[14:33] <sjshaw361> It shut down and then I got the following error repeating on my screen "[ 578.9719203] end_request: i/o error, dev sr0, sector 503872"
[14:33] <sjshaw361> Now, my XP won't load
[14:33] <sjshaw361> ... HELP
[14:41] <sjshaw361> Putting it all in one message... I just tried Ubuntu 10.04 using a boot disc and using the trial option. I choose the boot menu and then from CD. Ubuntu loaded fine. When I was done I closed out. It shut down and then I got the following error repeating on my screen "[ 578.9719203] end_request: i/o error, dev sr0, sector 503872". Now, my XP won't load.  My computer starts, I get the Windows XP screen, but nothing happens.  It doesn't even sound a
[14:46] <philinux> sjshaw, Try a complete pc shutdown leave it 10 seconds and then do a cold restart
[14:48] <sjshaw361> philinux, I did that.  it sat over night shut down and then I tried it this morning... nothing
[14:49] <philinux> Very odd those sr0 error messages spam my screen when i shut down from the livecd but dont cause a problem. Try the live cd again and see if you can see the data on your hard drive
[15:02] <sjshaw361> philinux, I can get into Safe Mode, and ran chkdsk, but I still can't get into XP normally.
[15:05] <philinux> Sounds like xp didn't shut down properly then.
[15:11] <sjshaw361> How can I fix that then?
[15:15] <philinux> Did chkdsk run ok, no errors?
[15:20] <sjshaw361> Yeah
[15:55] <apparatus> Hey. So I'm in front of a rather stupid problem right now. I want to install Warcraft 3 on my 10.04 system but since the installer on the disc isn't an executable I can't open it. So I'd like to make it executable by chmod +x but I don't know how to access the drive as writing 'cd /media/Warcraft III' (or /dev/sr0) in the terminal didn't quite work out.
[15:57] <zkriesse> apparatus: wine
[15:57] <philinux> There is the mega thread, the forums are down for posting but accessible, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=579378
[15:58] <apparatus> Yea, I got wine, however the installer for warcraft is not accessible as it is not markes as an executable so I gotta make it an executable.
[15:59] <apparatus> I'll try to copy the contents of the drive and see if that works out.
[19:06] <hobgoblin> evening
[19:06] <hobgoblin> welcome ikonia
[19:10] <zkriesse> hey hobgoblin
[19:10] <zkriesse> and welcome ikonia
[19:11] <hobgoblin> evening zkriesse - surprised there's not more going on in here tonight with the forum down
[19:11] <philinux> Beer o'clock for me soon
[19:11] <hobgoblin> still lurking then philinux
[19:12] <philinux> No moderating to do  :O
[19:12] <philinux> This xchat is marvellous
[19:12] <hobgoblin> woohoo :) it has been a peaceful few hours
[19:12] <hobgoblin> I prefer ti to the terminal type clients - though I do use weechat from time to time if I'm stuck
[19:13] <philinux> Got it setup nicely, even got sound alerts
[19:13] <hobgoblin> philinux: is that xchat or the gnome-xchat
[19:14] <hobgoblin> I SOON turned those off :)
[19:14] <philinux> xchat, they not on by default
[19:14] <hobgoblin> and I have the notifications set up nicely
[19:14] <philinux> Bubble
[19:14] <philinux> Yes nice
[19:14] <philinux> Auto login and channel open, ;)
[19:15] <philinux> No smileys I see
[19:15] <hobgoblin> philinux: no - no bubble - no indicator or notification things in panel - next to nothing in panel - awn
[19:15] <hobgoblin> awn flashes with channel message - I only get notified of my nicks or other words I have in the filter
[19:16] <hobgoblin> hi pabstsmear
[19:16] <philinux> Is it possible to enable smileys
[19:16] <hobgoblin> what the picture things?
[19:16] <philinux> ;) yeah
[19:16] <hobgoblin> not that I know of
[19:17] <philinux> Ah ok
[19:17] <hobgoblin> they'd drive me nuts lol
[19:18] <philinux> How do I enable graphical smilies (emoticons)?
[19:18] <philinux> This feature is only available in the official Windows XChat release.
[19:18] <hobgoblin> aah the kiddie version :D
[19:18] <philinux> Ah Beer o'clock, must dash for bus bye
[19:18] <hobgoblin> cya - have one for me
[19:23] <zkriesse> hobgoblin: same here
[19:24] <zkriesse> heh
[19:24] <hobgoblin> :) I suspect #ubuntu is busy - often we get referrals - no idea what it's been like during the last few hours
[19:24] <pabstsmear> hey
[19:24] <hobgoblin> hi
[19:26] <pabstsmear> does anybody here have experience configuring conky?
[19:28] <zkriesse> hobgoblin: 1,458 people in #ubuntu right now
[19:28] <zkriesse> pabstsmear: well i don't but i can try anyway
[19:28] <pabstsmear> I read a few threads over on the ubuntu forums.  My setup works fine for a little while and then it stops.  Its not that big of a deal, but it is kind of an annoyance.
[19:29] <pabstsmear> I have a very similar configuration to the one in the how to get a beautiful conky thread.
[19:29] <hobgoblin> pabstsmear: what dies it do when it stops? maybe try running it from a terminal - might yield a clue
[19:30] <hobgoblin> pabstsmear: which setup - there are hundreds in that thread I think :) if no-one pipes up I would suggest a thread on the forum once it is back up
[19:30] <pabstsmear> it appears to freeze up for a moment and then quits, but if I run top it still shows the pid
[19:30] <pabstsmear> the one the person who started the thread gave as an example...  I used his as a template and only made a few changes.
[19:31] <hobgoblin> pabstsmear: try running it from a terminal and leaving it in there - not sure whether you;d get any useful info from that - but I suspect you would
[19:32] <pabstsmear> I did start it from the terminal once, it was spitting out something, I don't recall, hopefully it will be the same this time.
[19:33] <hobgoblin> if it runs for a long time - there could posssibly be a lot of text, if you paste it here - paste.ubuntu.com - if you use the forum code tags please
[19:33] <pabstsmear> okay, it says Not all processes could be identified, non-owned process info
[19:33] <pabstsmear>  will not be shown, you would have to be root to see it all.  should I sudo conky?
[19:34] <hobgoblin> no
[19:35] <pabstsmear> it seems basically to be repeating that, I'll post anythng else to the link you gave.
[19:35] <hobgoblin> or maybe yes - paste the info to paste.ubuntu.com, put a name, enter - then you''ll get a url
[19:35] <pabstsmear> thanks
[19:35] <hobgoblin> not sure I will be able to help - but I can certainly have a look
[19:36] <pabstsmear> none-the-less I appreciate it.
[19:37] <hobgoblin> I know - otherwise I would say nothing lol
[21:26] <tdn> I have just installed the available updates today. Including new kernel packages. This broke the video driver. What gives? Are others experiencing this too? How do I fix it?
[21:26] <hobgoblin> I know at least one person who had that issue - what driver
[21:27] <hobgoblin> tdn - I am expecting the same issue later when I reboot with my nvidia
[21:27] <iceflatline> I have Nvidia, did the updates come out today?
[21:28] <iceflatline> If they were the ones out yesteday, all is well with my nvidia card.
[21:28] <hobgoblin> iceflatline: I know someone who lost nvidia after the kernel update
[21:29] <hobgoblin> they had to mv xorg.conf out and reboot with nouveau - nto seen them sicne to see if a reinstall of nvidia fixed it
[21:29] <iceflatline> hobgoblin: k, hopefully this is isolated then.
[21:29] <tdn> nouveau
[21:30] <hobgoblin> tdn not sure then - I know they reverted to nouveau - do you have a xorg?  ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:30] <tdn> Why does this happen?
[21:30] <tdn> ls: cannot access /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[21:30] <tdn> ls: cannot access /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[21:30] <hobgoblin> k
[21:31] <tdn> Oups. Sorry for the dup.
[21:31] <hobgoblin> so nouveau is not giving you graphics?
[21:31] <tdn> hobgoblin, I just rebooted and selected the 2.6.32-22-generic kernel instead. There it works fine as before.
[21:32] <iceflatline> hobgoblin: Yes. However I'm in windows right now so can't investigate further at the moment
[21:32] <tdn> hobgoblin, lsmod says that nouveau is in use. When I boot to the new kernel, it says nouveau is not in use.
[21:32] <hobgoblin> k - not sure what has gone on with it - but i would suspect -24 will be along
[21:32] <tdn> hobgoblin, when? Today?
[21:33] <hobgoblin> tdn: I have no idea
[21:33] <tdn> Is there a way to fix it? I mean, it works in 2.6.32-22-generic. Is there a changelog explaining what has been updated?
[21:42] <hobgoblin> tdn: I'm sorry - I have no idea at all - it's all voodoo to me - the kernels turn up and I either install them or wait if I;ve seen something on the forums
[21:44] <tdn> Ok.
[21:44] <iceflatline> tdn: you could reinstall the nvidia drivers to see if that fixes the problem or drop back the previous kernel until you've had a chance to investigate the new changes
[21:45] <tdn> iceflatline, the nvidia drivers? I thought the point of nouveau was to not use nvidia?
[21:45] <tdn> I mean, I am on 2.6.32-22-generic right now, and afaik it uses nouveau and WORKS.
[21:46] <iceflatline> tdn: gotcha. I misread then. I thought you were using nvidia drivers. Explains perhaps why I wasn't affected if it is a kernel issue.
[21:47] <hobgoblin> iceflatline: I asked that of tdn but got no answer, then you started talking about nvidia :)
[21:48] <iceflatline> hobgoblin: my deepest apologies. I'll butt out :)
[21:49] <hobgoblin> nah - we're fine - I got a bit confused as well lol
[21:49] <hobgoblin> but I do use nvidia atm and will see when I reboot later
[21:49] <iceflatline> hobgoblin: yeah, i'm really curious myself now.
[21:50] <hobgoblin> I'll be back here tomorrow I am sure :)
[21:51] <iceflatline> we'll compare notes then. still stuck on windows at work now :(
[21:51] <hobgoblin> :) no PCs where I work
[21:52] <iceflatline> That sounds like my kind of place :)
[21:52] <hobgoblin> heh - well I am off now - night
[22:01] <xsaiddx> hello guys i have a game that it tells me opengl 2 not available
[22:01] <xsaiddx> how can i get it ?
[22:52] <zkriesse> hey Vantrax
[22:52] <Vantrax> hi zach
[23:01] <Vantrax> heya swoody
[23:01]  * Vantrax loves swoody... hes cool:P
[23:01] <Silver_Fox_> Good to see love in here.
[23:02] <swoody> heya Vantrax :)
[23:02]  * Vantrax loves Silver_Fox_ too
[23:02] <swoody> Vantrax: what's all this lovin'? You on some drugs? :/
[23:02] <Vantrax> no... do you have some...
[23:02] <Silver_Fox_> Why is that Vantrax  ?
[23:02] <Silver_Fox_> :)
[23:02]  * swoody emails Vantrax 5lbs of drugs 
[23:03] <Vantrax> ....
[23:03]  * Vantrax thinks he has enough to open a drugstore...
[23:04] <swoody> lol