| czajkowski | whoo made it home | 01:01 |
|---|---|---|
| jono | doctormo, ping? | 01:01 |
| nhandler | How was it czajkowski ? | 01:01 |
| czajkowski | windy and raining heavily | 01:02 |
| czajkowski | behind one large truck for about 4 miles in lashing rain | 01:02 |
| czajkowski | most fliupping annoying | 01:02 |
| nhandler | czajkowski: I meant the Ubuntu Hour ;) | 01:03 |
| czajkowski | oh right | 01:03 |
| czajkowski | that was a good fun | 01:03 |
| czajkowski | took pics | 01:03 |
| czajkowski | one of the lads brought his wife and kids along | 01:03 |
| nhandler | czajkowski: Sounds fun. Have you uploaded the pics yet? | 01:03 |
| czajkowski | one of the guys luisbg is moving back to spain so wont see him again | 01:03 |
| czajkowski | and the two masters students doing their thesis on Ubuntu came along | 01:04 |
| czajkowski | nhandler: nope | 01:04 |
| nhandler | czajkowski: Weren't you doing something with those 2 students? | 01:04 |
| czajkowski | yup | 01:05 |
| czajkowski | educating them in ubuntu | 01:05 |
| czajkowski | so one brought along a questionaire | 01:05 |
| czajkowski | the other wanted to meet people | 01:05 |
| czajkowski | nhandler: jono seen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ColombianTeam/TeamReApproval2010 what a wiki page | 01:07 |
| jono | wow! | 01:07 |
| jono | so awesome :) | 01:08 |
| czajkowski | yup | 01:08 |
| * czajkowski hugs jono nice work on getting the tag chat going | 01:08 | |
| czajkowski | thank you | 01:08 |
| nhandler | czajkowski: Oh yeah, put Ubuntu Chicago to shame with that ;) | 01:08 |
| doctormo | jono: pong | 01:09 |
| czajkowski | right folks calling it a night | 01:10 |
| czajkowski | catch you all tomorrow | 01:10 |
| doctormo | night czajkowski | 01:10 |
| nhandler | Night czajkowski | 01:10 |
| jono | czajkowski, :) | 01:10 |
| jono | doctormo, hey, you have an M-Audio Fast Track Pro? | 01:10 |
| jono | I saw https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/569932 | 01:11 |
| doctormo | jono: I do | 01:11 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 569932 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "M-audio fast-track pro: Missing input device (affects: 3) (heat: 76)" [Low,In progress] | 01:11 |
| jono | doctormo, how does it work in Lucid? | 01:11 |
| jono | specifically the S/PDIF | 01:11 |
| jono | specifically the S/PDIF in | 01:11 |
| doctormo | jono: Needed a patch to get it working | 01:11 |
| jono | (I just bought one) | 01:11 |
| doctormo | in lucid | 01:11 |
| jono | right | 01:11 |
| jono | does the S/PDIF work? | 01:11 |
| doctormo | jono: I don't actually know if I can test that, do you mean S/PDIF into the Fast track and then out to computer via usb? | 01:12 |
| doctormo | I can't imagine it wouldn't work though so long as the patch is there: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/48319012/draft.patch | 01:13 |
| doctormo | jono: Now you can riddle me this, what did you think of this: http://doctormo.deviantart.com/#/d2ssfnz | 01:14 |
| jono | doctormo, I want to bring an S/PDIF input into the Fast Track via the S/PDIF in | 01:14 |
| jono | I am getting my studio in better shape for my videocasts and the live severed fifth recording | 01:15 |
| jono | that image is awesome doctormo | 01:15 |
| jono | doctormo, is that patch merged into maverick or in a Lucid PPA? | 01:16 |
| jono | or it is a config file patch | 01:16 |
| jono | easy | 01:16 |
| jono | I sure hope the S/PDIF works | 01:17 |
| jono | then I don't need windows | 01:17 |
| jono | biab | 01:19 |
| doctormo | jono: Let me know if it works, although that patch was rejected by the upstream because it's a hack (technically speaking) it assumes you have a single audio device in the original configuration and assumes you may have a prior device in the patched version. What it should do of course is not have that configuration at all, the code should be made to detect the m-audio alsa device properly. | 02:58 |
| jono | doctormo, so the patched version assumes the m-audio overrides the system sound card? | 03:02 |
| doctormo | jono: No, it won't apply m-audio config if it's not an m-audio, it just expands the existing hack to check two slots. | 03:06 |
| jono | doctormo, oh so it means you can use both the m-audio and the existing sound card? | 03:08 |
| doctormo | jono: I have been able to, I output to my normal sound card when I do midi work and input work. | 03:12 |
| doctormo | YMMV | 03:12 |
| jono | doctormo, right, can see see the S/PDIF In as an input? | 03:14 |
| doctormo | jono: Are you having trouble seeing it? | 03:15 |
| jono | doctormo, he card hasnt arrived yet | 03:22 |
| jono | I am just getting my expectations set | 03:23 |
| jono | can you see it? | 03:23 |
| doctormo | jono: Mine isn't a card, it's a block connected via usb. M-Audio FastTrack Pro | 03:23 |
| jono | I mean that | 03:24 |
| jono | I meant sound card | 03:24 |
| jono | the only thing I care about is that I can see the s/pdif in ustream | 03:24 |
| doctormo | What would it look like? | 03:24 |
| doctormo | Imagine your talking with someone that treats audio like a mystic force and only knows how to do Jack because I wrote the steps down. | 03:26 |
| jono | doctormo, it is an orange socket that says Digital In I think | 03:30 |
| jono | what inputs are listed in the sound preferences when it is plugged in? | 03:30 |
| doctormo | jono: Yes it has that, it says S/PDIF > Out / In (there are two orange connectors) | 03:31 |
| doctormo | jono: There is "FastTrack Pro Analog Stereo Channel A" input and "FastTrack Pro Analog Stereo Channel A" and "FastTrack Pro Analog Stereo Channel B" outputs. | 03:32 |
| jono | doctormo, can you test which socket matches which input? | 03:33 |
| jono | I reckon it is "FastTrack Pro Analog Stereo Channel A" | 03:34 |
| doctormo | jono: I have no s/pdif output devices and no cables. Is there a way I can test it otherwise? Channel A works for the Microphone I plug into the Mic/Inst | 03:35 |
| jono | is Channel A or Channel A Analogue? | 03:35 |
| doctormo | jono: http://imagebin.ca/view/J_yDiXN.html | 03:36 |
| jono | doctormo, what options are in the Connector drop down | 03:37 |
| jono | when the fast track is selected | 03:37 |
| doctormo | jono: It disappears when selecting the FastTrack. | 03:37 |
| jono | I think you said there were other inputs? | 03:38 |
| doctormo | Those were outputs. | 03:38 |
| jono | A, Analogue A, and B | 03:38 |
| jono | ahh | 03:38 |
| jono | so there is only one input working | 03:38 |
| doctormo | Well, that only appears with the patch, without it it's a rather amusing zero inputs. | 03:39 |
| doctormo | I have no idea if this is because of pulse audio or alsa, both are irrational with this device. | 03:39 |
| jono | dammit | 03:40 |
| nigelb | morning folks :) | 03:43 |
| doctormo | jono: Will it be a waste or will you try and convince some of the devels to work on the problem? | 03:58 |
| nigelb | doctormo: audio? | 04:00 |
| nhandler | doctormo: Not that many audio devs in the community, and I bet crimsun is pretty busy ;) | 04:00 |
| nigelb | luke should be aroud now | 04:00 |
| doctormo | nhandler: Quick does anyone know any multi-millionaire audiophiles! We need an audio team stat. | 04:01 |
| nigelb | doctormo: TheMuso in #ubuntu-desktop might be able to help you | 04:10 |
| jono | doctormo, I will probably just report a bug and hope someone can work on it | 04:29 |
| doctormo | jono: Noone you know who does this sort of thing? | 04:31 |
| nigelb | doctormo: err, audio right? Luke aka TheMuso | 04:32 |
| nigelb | crimsun has withdrawn from most development related stuff lately | 04:32 |
| jono | doctormo, well, I don't know if it is an integration issue or a driver problem | 04:32 |
| doctormo | nigelb: Surely the entire Ubuntu community must consist of more than one audio dev, either that or we need to get out our tranquilizers and go hunting in #alsa. | 04:33 |
| doctormo | jono: I should be able to see more than one input on alsa if it's a config issue | 04:34 |
| jono | doctormo, not neccessarily, the drive might now expose all inputs | 04:34 |
| doctormo | Certainly looks like it doesn't > pcmC1D0p pcmC1D1c pcmC1D1p is all I get. | 04:35 |
| jono | doctormo, then it must be a driver issue | 05:20 |
| nigelb | doctormo: sadly, audio is not some place we have lots of devs | 05:50 |
| nigelb | crimsun was our pillar for so long :) | 05:50 |
| dpm | good morning all | 06:11 |
| nigelb | morning dpm :) | 06:11 |
| dpm | hey nigelb :) | 06:11 |
| nigelb | whoa its early! I haven't even had my coffee and you're up for work already! | 06:11 |
| dpm | :) | 06:12 |
| nigelb | and my TZ is ahead of you | 06:12 |
| dpm | how are you doing today, apart from not having had the coffe? :-) | 06:12 |
| nigelb | From the looks of it today is going to be a *loooong* day | 06:14 |
| nigelb | I'm struggling to understand a framework on whcih I'm supposed to write code in | 06:15 |
| dpm | I'm sure you like challenges... :) | 06:17 |
| nigelb | of course! I'm the one who convinced everyone that we should use this framework :) | 06:32 |
| dholbach | good morning | 06:52 |
| dpm | morning dholbach! | 06:57 |
| dholbach | hey dpm | 06:57 |
| nigelb | dholbach: good morning! | 07:02 |
| dholbach | hey nigelb | 07:02 |
| dholbach | hola ara | 07:56 |
| ara | morning dholbach | 07:56 |
| * dholbach takes the dog to the vet | 07:57 | |
| czajkowski | morning | 09:20 |
| AlanBell | hi | 09:23 |
| nigelb | hello czajkowski, AlanBell :) | 09:34 |
| czajkowski | nigelb: hi | 09:34 |
| nigelb | you folks having a good day? | 09:34 |
| czajkowski | so far so good | 09:35 |
| * AlanBell says meh to month end stuff | 09:36 | |
| nigelb | AlanBell: new month has been awesome with 2 new people joining our company and we moved 2 systems to ubuntu this week :) | 09:37 |
| AlanBell | that is great | 09:38 |
| nigelb | we'll eventually go all out for developers :) | 09:44 |
| AlanBell | I just want someone to take all the financial stuff away | 09:45 |
| nigelb | heh | 09:45 |
| nigelb | jcastro: did you do anythig about the results of "talk to lucas about submittodebian"? | 14:21 |
| nigelb | Also, what is the outcome of exploring code review UI for patches? (you've marked it as done) | 14:22 |
| jcastro | nigelb: the submittodebian bits discussion happened on the mailing list instead (motu) | 14:25 |
| jcastro | and the bugs team has punted the code review for patches for this cycle. | 14:25 |
| jcastro | sorry, the lp tasks aren't clear | 14:25 |
| jcastro | they weren't for getting each feature done in lp, it was for a work analysis of what we wanted from the lp team | 14:25 |
| jcastro | so they're all marked done even though we don't get everything we want | 14:26 |
| jcastro | the short story on the review bits is "everyone wants them, but it's alot of work, so next time" | 14:26 |
| jcastro | once I get debian 2 way import/export in lp I'll be more than happy to let you whine at them for your feature. :D | 14:27 |
| jcastro | I've been waiting like 3 years, heh | 14:27 |
| jcastro | nigelb: hmm, perhaps I should get one of them to blog their plans | 14:28 |
| jcastro | so it's clear what they're working on | 14:28 |
| jcastro | jono: when you plug in your kindle to your ubuntu box does it think it's an mp3 player? (though everything works just fine) | 14:35 |
| nigelb | jcastro: thank you :) | 14:37 |
| jono | jcastro, no, it just shows nautilus | 14:37 |
| nigelb | the code review would have been awesome ;) | 14:37 |
| jcastro | nigelb: they love the idea, it's just something they can bust out right away. | 14:37 |
| jcastro | er, it's NOT something they can just bust out right away is what I meant. | 14:37 |
| nigelb | heh | 14:37 |
| nigelb | I should bribe jml into giving me some beginner lessions on hacking launchpad :) | 14:38 |
| jcastro | no! | 14:38 |
| jcastro | stay here with us! | 14:38 |
| nigelb | hahaha | 14:38 |
| nigelb | jcastro: I'm a web developer by trade, I'm just gravitating towards my area of expertise :p | 14:40 |
| jcastro | heh | 14:40 |
| dholbach | jono: heya - if you could re-blog UDW at some stage, I'd appreciate it :-D | 14:57 |
| jono | dholbach, will do today | 15:01 |
| dholbach | thanks a bunch | 15:02 |
| nigelb | dholbach: don't bang on that | 15:13 |
| dholbach | nigelb: eh? | 15:13 |
| nigelb | I asked jono to blog about cleansweep ages back and he still hasn't done it :p | 15:14 |
| vish | nigelb: i need jono too : | 15:14 |
| jcastro | I asked jono for a pony! | 15:31 |
| dholbach | jcastro: sometimes it's really tough working for Jono | 15:32 |
| dholbach | all those disappointments and setbacks | 15:32 |
| jono | ll | 15:33 |
| jono | lol | 15:33 |
| jcastro | I have a hard time respecting someone who uses triggers | 15:33 |
| jono | haha | 15:33 |
| nigelb | jcastro: triggers? | 15:41 |
| jcastro | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bass_drum | 15:42 |
| nigelb | jcastro: ah, LOL | 15:45 |
| nigelb | later folks, I'm off for the day :) | 16:02 |
| dholbach | have a great rest of your day, nigelb | 16:02 |
| nigelb | dholbach: Just finished 12.5 hours at work. I feel brain-dead | 16:03 |
| * dholbach hugs nigelb | 16:03 | |
| * nigelb hugs dholbach :) | 16:03 | |
| dholbach | :) | 16:03 |
| dholbach | jcastro: I'll massage abentley's comments into the wiki page | 16:24 |
| dholbach | jcastro: anything else you think we should be doing? | 16:24 |
| dpm | ok, I might have to send a couple of e-mails, but I'm officially off. See you all in a week! | 16:30 |
| * dpm hugs everyone | 16:30 | |
| * dholbach hugs dpm | 16:30 | |
| dholbach | dpm: enjoy your holidays | 16:30 |
| dpm | thanks dholbach, I'll definitely will :) | 16:31 |
| dholbach | thought so :) | 16:32 |
| jcastro | dholbach: I have some questions about prefixes, but it can wait until tomorrow | 16:32 |
| dholbach | prefixes? | 16:32 |
| jcastro | dholbach: yeah so like let's say someone wants Qt nightlies | 17:28 |
| jcastro | but doesn't want to overwrite their existing release | 17:28 |
| dholbach | yeah | 17:28 |
| jcastro | say the person wants it in /opt or something else instead so they don't have to downgrade the universe when it blows up | 17:28 |
| jcastro | that was my only question | 17:28 |
| dholbach | we shouldn't do /opt | 17:29 |
| dholbach | stuff can't link properly and stuff | 17:29 |
| jcastro | wherever | 17:29 |
| dholbach | so Qt would not work for them at all | 17:29 |
| dholbach | the only thing they can do and need to do is get the versioning right | 17:29 |
| jcastro | I don't think it will matter too much where it would actually go as long as it doesn't blow up existing packages | 17:29 |
| dholbach | https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/BuildingASourcePackage#versioning | 17:30 |
| * jcastro nods | 17:31 | |
| dholbach | ok my friends, calling it a day | 17:40 |
| dholbach | see you tomorrow! | 17:40 |
| nhandler | Bye dholbach | 17:41 |
| dholbach | bye nhandler | 17:41 |
| dinda | http://guadec.org/index.php/guadec/2010/schedConf/training GNOME Developer training - nice! | 20:11 |
| jcastro | jono: call today? | 20:23 |
| jono | call? | 20:26 |
| jcastro | jono: you meantioned yesterday that you wanted a 1 on 1 today to catch up | 20:26 |
| jcastro | but I can give you the 2 second update on irc if you want | 20:27 |
| jono | jcastro, sure, lets do it here | 20:27 |
| jono | unless you want a call? | 20:27 |
| jcastro | doesn't matter to me | 20:27 |
| jono | lets do it here | 20:29 |
| jcastro | ok | 20:29 |
| jcastro | - indicator-appmenu and appmenu-gtk ready to go today, seb is packaging tomorrow (ken on holiday) | 20:30 |
| jcastro | - uds content sent to you | 20:30 |
| jcastro | - working with lp and daniel on daily builds stuff, which hits edge on monday, we're having a call with them tomorrow | 20:31 |
| jcastro | - finishing up party and GUADEC stuff (catch up with cezz tomorrow) | 20:31 |
| jcastro | we're going to do usb keys for UNE for guadec so people can install on the fly, and the party on wednesday | 20:31 |
| jcastro | that's all I've got! | 20:31 |
| jcastro | no outstanding actions afaik | 20:32 |
| jono | jcastro, sounds perfect | 20:34 |
| jono | A2 is pretty much squared away apart from me blogging daily builds | 20:34 |
| jono | good work! :) | 20:34 |
| jcastro | woo! | 20:34 |
| jcastro | I would hold off on the dailies tbh | 20:34 |
| jono | right, I will postpone it | 20:35 |
| Technoviking | jcastro: If anyone asks, Ryan is working on the issues with the forums | 20:41 |
| jcastro | ok | 20:43 |
| jcastro | Technoviking: did ranch_hand posting every 3 minutes bring it down? | 20:43 |
| Technoviking | jcastro: lol, could be:) | 20:44 |
| Technoviking | I think it maybe my fault, I posted to the forums from my iPhone 4 yesterday:) | 20:44 |
| jcastro | I didn't know you were right handed! | 20:45 |
| Technoviking | jcastro: am now, I cut off my left hand so I would never be tempted to use it | 20:47 |
| jcastro | Technoviking: http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/2623/1277477480603.jpg | 20:49 |
| Technoviking | Honestly, I can not reproduce that problem. The main problem I'm having is that 3G is faster on the iPhone 4 but not as reliable. Something #G will just not work. | 20:51 |
| doctormo | jcastro: Nice | 21:13 |
| jcastro | EOD, bai everyone! | 22:20 |
| jono | later jcastro | 22:41 |
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