[00:03]  * jenkins does not blog
[00:03] <godbyk-android> They're just starting a new panel.
[00:04] <godbyk-android> So I won't be paying attention to irc for a bit.
[00:04] <daker> oki
[00:07] <daker> jenkins, your twitter ?
[00:07] <jenkins> a little bit not much of a facebooker or twitter i update it now and then
[00:08] <daker> your twitter is ?
[00:09] <zkriesse> @zachkriesse is my twitter since we're sharing those
[00:09] <jenkins> daker: i am sure your on it hmm let me rember
[00:12] <jenkins> i had 3 lots of pidgin open
[00:13] <jenkins> daker: https://twitter.com/Luke_Jennings is me
[00:13] <daker> zkriesse, your tweets are private so i can't add you to the planet
[00:13] <zkriesse> daker: request me
[00:13] <jenkins> same mine are private
[00:14] <jenkins> daker you can add http://twitter.com/quickshotteam
[00:14] <daker> zkriesse, i can't i am using the twitter api
[00:14] <daker> jenkins, done
[00:14] <jenkins> cool
[00:16] <daker> also for me i can't add my self to the planet :D
[00:16] <jenkins> who is Per Erik Glærum Grønvik on the planet. I don't know their irc name
[00:17] <daker> i don't know him :)
[00:31]  * daker watching NixiePixel videos
[00:54] <daker> http://www.quora.com/Is-Google-Me-a-fake-rumor-Misleading-evolutionary-product-update-Or-is-it-really-a-new-social-network-from-Google
[02:09] <daker> godbyk-android2, https://code.launchpad.net/~adnane002/+junk/ump-planet-theme
[02:09] <godbyk-sagan> daker: cool
[02:10] <daker> are you free ?
[02:10] <godbyk-sagan> for a moment.
[02:10] <daker> can you implement the new design ?
[02:11] <godbyk-sagan> can you link to it again (now that I'm on my laptop)?
[02:11] <daker> https://code.launchpad.net/~adnane002/+junk/ump-planet-theme
[02:12] <godbyk-sagan> thanks
[02:12] <godbyk-sagan> Ah, for the planet.  You'll need to talk to dutchie about that. It's hosted on his server.
[02:12] <godbyk-sagan> (I just have planet.ubuntu-manual.org redirect to dutchie's server.)
[02:12] <daker> ah oki
[02:13] <godbyk-sagan> daker: Do you think our ubuntu-manual.org site is ready for hosting translated editions?
[02:13] <godbyk-sagan> If not, what do we need to do still?
[02:13] <godbyk-sagan> And can you fill me in on how it all works?
[02:13] <godbyk-sagan> We'll probably be releasing the Greek and German translations soon.
[02:15] <daker> give me moment i will test it
[02:16] <godbyk-sagan> okay.
[02:19] <daker> what's the name of the second edition ?
[02:19] <godbyk-sagan> It will be "Getting Started with Ubuntu 10.04 (Second Edition)", I suppose.
[02:20] <godbyk-sagan> Though I'm not referring to the second edition, rather, the translations of the first edition.
[02:21] <daker> it will works :)
[02:21] <godbyk-sagan> 'kay.
[02:22] <godbyk-sagan> Will you be around next week and the week after?
[02:22] <godbyk-sagan> I may need your help when we get around to releasing the translated editions.
[02:23] <daker> i don't have holidays :) so i will be here all this month
[02:23] <godbyk-sagan> Okay. Good to know. :)
[02:28] <godbyk-sagan> I'm off to a banquet.  See you later!
[02:28] <daker> see you
[07:38] <jenkins> morning all
[07:39] <thorwil> morning!
[07:39] <thorwil> jenkins: where's your ubuntu? :)
[07:43] <jenkins> hey thorwil, how are you?
[07:43] <thorwil> jenkins: all fine, bracing myself for days with 35°C. and you?
[07:44] <jenkins> I am good, as well thinking about what i should do today
[07:45] <thorwil> jenkins: what are your options?
[07:47] <jenkins> well, i have a model boat to do and quickshot, i need to pack stuff
[07:47] <jenkins> probably all of them
[07:48] <thorwil> model boat sounds best :)
[07:48] <thorwil> wait, what am i saying, quickshot, of course!
[07:48] <jenkins> lol :)
[08:04] <jenkins> has anyone seen humphreybc recently?
[08:05] <ChrisWoollard> Never :P
[08:06] <jenkins> hey ChrisWoollard how are you today?
[08:06]  * jenkins was ubuntujenkins
[08:09] <ChrisWoollard> I am alright.
[08:10] <ChrisWoollard> I notice you changed your name
[08:10] <jenkins> yo good, got to make sure people work it out :)
[08:11] <jenkins> *yo -> o
[08:11] <ChrisWoollard> It isn't too difficult.
[08:11] <ChrisWoollard> Why the change or do you not like Ubuntu any more :)
[08:12] <thorwil> first the "ubuntu" goes and next you know it's fedorajenkins!! ;)
[08:12] <ChrisWoollard> I think slackwarejenkins would be good
[08:12] <jenkins> no it was to long and people in other channels can go "why do you use ubuntu you should use ...." and i thought it was childish
[08:12] <ChrisWoollard> lol
[08:13] <thorwil> heh
[08:13] <ChrisWoollard> how did that fell.
[08:13] <ChrisWoollard> feel
[08:14] <jenkins> slackwarejenkins was very long ;)
[08:14] <jenkins> man i should get up
[08:14] <ChrisWoollard> I wonder what the maximum length is
[08:15] <jenkins> erm ubuntujenkins-lernid if too long iirc
[08:15] <jenkins> lol
[08:16] <supercalifragili> :(
[08:16] <supercalifragili> It couldn't cope with that
[08:16] <supercalifragili> Argh
[08:16] <jenkins> 16 characters if i can count
[08:16] <jenkins> are you here twice?
[08:17] <sonicbadger> my pc at home
[08:17] <jenkins> i see
[08:17] <ChrisWoollard> There we go. That is better
[08:18] <ChrisWoollard> I had to ghost myself
[08:34]  * jenkins thanks who ever changed my op nick
[08:34]  * jenkins expects it was jussi
[08:48] <jenkins> yea everything has been changed over now quickshotdevs is done
[09:31] <jenkins> hey nisshh how are you
[09:34] <jenkins> info quickshotdevs
[09:44] <nisshh> jenkins: hey
[09:44] <nisshh> im good, you?
[09:51] <jenkins> I am good as well nisshh
[09:51] <nisshh> jenkins: time for a nick change was it?
[09:52] <jenkins> yea the other one was too long
[09:54] <nisshh> hehe
[10:13] <jenkins> morning zkriesse
[10:13] <zkriesse> hi jenkins
[10:13] <zkriesse> not been to bed yet
[10:14] <zkriesse> so i'm out for four hours...
[10:14] <zkriesse> cause thats all i can take
[10:14] <zkriesse> got a meeting at 8 am and its 4 now
[10:14] <zkriesse> lol
[10:14]  * zkriesse out
[10:14] <jenkins> night
[11:02] <dutchie> o/
[11:02]  * dutchie is back from Wales
[11:14] <jenkins> hey dutchie
[11:15] <jenkins> how was it
[11:15] <dutchie> i have a glass of water
[11:15] <dutchie> it is fine now :)
[11:15] <jenkins> :)
[11:29] <daker> dutchie, ping
[11:29] <dutchie> daker: is this about the new theme?
[11:29] <daker> yes
[11:30] <dutchie> i'm just looking at it  now
[11:30] <daker> oki
[11:30] <dutchie> do you have to keep the PSD in there too?
[11:30] <daker> no
[11:30] <dutchie> it's a bit big for my liking
[11:31] <dutchie> i'd rather it didn't end up like the lucid-e1 branch
[11:32] <daker> ??
[11:32] <dutchie> really really big
[11:32] <daker> big ? what ?
[11:32] <daker> ah you mean lucid-e1 ?
[11:32] <dutchie> yeah
[11:32] <daker> very big
[11:37] <dutchie> daker: http://pastebin.com/qtvcC2uQ
[11:37] <daker> oki
[11:42] <daker> https://code.launchpad.net/~adnane002/+junk/ump-planet-theme
[11:43]  * dutchie pulls
[11:43] <dutchie> same error
[11:44] <daker> pull
[11:46] <daker> works ?
[11:46] <dutchie> one moment
[11:46] <daker> take your time
[11:47] <dutchie> no errors
[11:47] <dutchie> http://planet.ubuntu-manual.org/ ooh, shiny
[11:47] <daker> yes yes
[11:48] <daker> thanks dutchie :)
[11:50] <dutchie> thank you, great design
[11:51] <jenkins> daker: that was quick work getting the theme done
[11:51] <daker> yep
[11:52] <thorwil> daker: left side of the @ icon appears to be cut off
[11:52] <daker> thorwil, i saw that
[11:53] <thorwil> daker: also something wrong with the bottom edge of the ubuntu manual logo
[11:53] <dutchie> the icons at the top meant to link to something
[11:53] <dutchie> oh dear
[11:53] <dutchie> those two days of heavy drinking have taken their toll
[11:54] <daker> thorwil, you can check the psd
[11:54] <daker> https://code.launchpad.net/~adnane002/+junk/ump-planet-theme
[11:54] <daker> dutchie, yes
[11:56] <thorwil> cool, it does open in gimp
[11:58] <thorwil> daker: the left edge of the @ could be an anti-aliasing issue. the manual logo has been scaled and is blurry :(
[11:58] <thorwil> daker: i'm not sure trying a ps, gimp, ps round trip would be a good idea
[11:58] <daker> design = humphreybc
[12:00] <daker> if something goes wrong with the design you should tell humphreybc
[12:02] <daker> thorwil, i need a .ico of the manual logo
[12:04] <daker> @all, if your tweets are not private, fill me you twitter
[12:05] <dutchie> jshholland
[12:06] <dutchie> could you not do it by the people @TheUbuntuManual follows?
[12:06] <daker> really hard
[12:07] <daker> and if someone has a private tweets the browser will tell the user to enter the login & pass
[12:08] <dutchie> just a thought
[12:08] <thorwil> daker: mailed Ben.
[12:08] <thorwil> daker: what sizes do you want in the .ico?
[12:08] <daker> oki thanks
[12:08] <daker> a favicon
[12:09] <daker> if i am not wrong 16x16
[12:11] <thorwil> well, they can contain several sizes and browsers might show them larger than 16x16 if available
[12:12] <thorwil> hmm, i have no sizes between 16 and 64
[12:16] <thorwil> daker: favicon with 16 and 64 px and 8-bit transparency in your email
[12:17]  * jenkins is making progress on quickshot
[12:22] <daker> thorwil, thanks
[12:22] <daker> dutchie, pull
[12:22] <thorwil> np
[12:38] <vish> daker: thanks! ;)
[12:39] <vish> forgot about that link :D
[12:41] <daker> next step : get more traffic around the planet
[12:43] <daker> vish, np :)
[12:44] <daker> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_OQpXk8vAQ&feature=player_embedded
[12:51] <humphreybc> that was quick
[12:51] <humphreybc> let me sort out those pictograms and email them to daker so they look better
[12:51] <dutchie> see, i'm efficient, me
[12:52] <humphreybc> did you do that?
[12:52] <humphreybc> I presume the twitter API thing hasn't been sorted out yet :)
[12:52] <humphreybc> hey daker!
[12:52] <humphreybc> nice work on the planet :D
[12:52] <jenkins> hey humphreybc
[12:52] <dutchie> did i do what?
[12:52] <humphreybc> I'll send you over the proper pictograms at the right resolution so they're not all cut off and fuzzy
[12:53] <dutchie> i'm hosting the planet
[12:53] <humphreybc> jenkins: Luke?
[12:53] <humphreybc> dutchie: oh!
[12:53] <jenkins> yep
[12:54] <jenkins> humphreybc: juss-i swapped my ops name over to this nick as this is my new one
[12:54] <humphreybc> groovy
[12:55] <humphreybc> yes it's better
[12:56] <humphreybc> oh the twitter API does work too!
[13:02] <humphreybc> right, i'll be back soon
[13:08] <humphreybc> thorwil: are you there?
[13:08] <thorwil> humphreybc: halfway
[13:08] <humphreybc> could you quickly create a logo that's 150px wide and email it to me?
[13:10] <daker> humphreybc, thanks
[13:13] <humphreybc> daker: I'm also getting you better quality pictograms to put up the top
[13:13] <daker> oki
[13:13] <jenkins> what do those pictograms link to? I don't know what they each mean
[13:15] <thorwil> humphreybc: 150px, logo and "Ubuntu Manual Project" on the right?
[13:17] <humphreybc> thorwil: no, 150px for the entire thing
[13:17] <humphreybc> logo + text = 150px width
[13:18] <humphreybc> jenkins: they will eventually link to each page on the main site, when that's built
[13:18] <humphreybc> daker: I'm just changing a few things in the mockup and adding in stuff like the date it was published and when it was last updated, as well as the new pictograms and then I'll send it over to you
[13:23] <daker> oki
[13:26] <daker> http://validator.w3.org/mobile/?docAddr=http://ubuntu-manual.org
[13:30] <jenkins> daker: why was a popup detected?
[13:35] <humphreybc> daker: just sent you an email with the PSD file attached, please read through the list of changes. We have to wait till tomorrow to get the pictograms at the right resolution from the design team, and thorwil should send through a team logo at the right resolution soon
[13:36] <thorwil> humphreybc: sadly i need to create a new size of the logo to make things fit into 150px without making either logo or text seem tiny in relation
[13:36] <jenkins> humphreybc: the desgin team did our pictograms?
[13:38] <humphreybc> jenkins: they're not *our* pictograms
[13:38] <humphreybc> http://ubuntu.com
[13:38] <dutchie> do any of the links on that site actually work? ;)
[13:39] <dutchie> actually, that's a bit mean
[13:39] <humphreybc> on which site?
[13:39] <jenkins> wow I am supprised they are letting us use them
[13:39] <dutchie> the planet
[13:39] <humphreybc> jenkins: that's the whole point of them
[13:40] <humphreybc> they're being made for all ubuntu web presence to try and unify it
[13:40] <jenkins> o right isee
[13:40] <humphreybc> no other community projects are using because they're a) too lazy or b) don't work with the design team as closely as we do
[13:40] <humphreybc> also, they are still polishing up the guidelines for their use
[13:40] <humphreybc> our project is a guinea pig
[13:41] <humphreybc> so basically, when it comes to convincing other projects to get involved in creating and using pictograms, they can use UMP websites as a success story - and also publish guidelines based on what they learnt from our use of them
[13:42] <dutchie> i think humphreybc just likes being experimental
[13:45] <daker> jenkins, i don"t know what he is talking about
[13:48] <thorwil> humphreybc, daker 150px UMP logo mailed to both of you
[13:48] <humphreybc> great, thanks thorwil
[13:48] <thorwil> you're welcome
[13:48] <humphreybc> wait
[13:48] <humphreybc> that's tiny
[13:48] <humphreybc> is that 150px?
[13:49] <humphreybc> oh shit
[13:49] <humphreybc> I meant 250 :P
[13:49]  * humphreybc is not thinking
[13:49] <thorwil> humphreybc: now imagine my hands closing on your neck ...
[13:50] <humphreybc> :D
[13:56] <nisshh> hahaha, i just got a great furtune cookie message:
[13:57] <nisshh> "To ensure you hit the target, load gun first"
[14:01] <thorwil> humphreybc, daker 250px UMP logo mailed to both of you
[14:03]  * dutchie reads the log from 29/06/10
[14:05] <csgeek> hello all
[14:06] <jenkins> hello csgeek
[14:07] <csgeek> I was following:  http://ubuntu-manual.org/getinvolved/authors  I have all the packages checked out.  ./install-pkgs.sh seems happy.  I try to run make ubuntu-manual-en_GB.pdf and it fails right away.
[14:07] <jenkins> csgeek: try just "make" first
[14:07] <jenkins> which branch did you check out?
[14:07] <csgeek> http://pastie.org/1026568
[14:08] <csgeek>  bzr branch lp:ubuntu-manual
[14:09] <csgeek> is make pdf just the dvi -> pdf transformation?
[14:09] <jenkins> the translations are not started on that branch yet, we are still bug fixing then we will start the translations.
[14:09] <csgeek> make works, with lots of warning, writes out 165 pages.
[14:09] <csgeek> make pdf doesn't
[14:09] <csgeek> same error
[14:09] <jenkins> humphreybc: when are we releasing lucid-e2
[14:10] <jenkins> csgeek: you want just "make" no pdf bit
[14:10] <jenkins> in that folder should be a pdf file
[14:10] <jenkins> you could also do "make show" that would show you the pdf
[14:12] <jenkins> csgeek: can you pastebin the ubuntu-manual.log file please then i can look at the erros
[14:15] <csgeek> that's interesting... it loads in evince but not in KDE's gwenview
[14:15] <jenkins> that is strange
[14:16] <csgeek> there's no ubuntu-manual.log, but I have a main.log
[14:16] <jenkins> yea thats it I am getting confused
[14:17] <csgeek> http://pastie.org/1026577
[14:18] <csgeek> right.. gwenview isn't a pdf reader.  doh
[14:21] <csgeek> it looks okay to me.  Latex always gives me warning.. or tends to be a very tempersome child
[14:22] <jenkins> did you get something like  "Success!  Wrote 166 pages" at the end, the warnings that i have seen at the moment are nothing to worry about. did you install latex as per the site?
[14:26] <vish> humphreybc: where was your mockup?
[14:26] <vish> i seem to have lost it
[14:27] <csgeek> hmmm... nice idea, though a lot of the sections could be far more in depth, or link up to references that go more in depth.
[14:32] <jenkins> csgeek the idea is to start introducing people to ubuntu, we have great plans with the doc team to work on improving help.ubuntu.com
[14:32] <jenkins> we could definatly add links to the wiki
[14:32] <jenkins> *links in the pdf
[14:33] <daker> jenkins, i didn't see anything about that
[14:33] <daker> and if they are ready to work with us
[14:34]  * vish grumbles!  contributors is not different from about us  :/
[14:35] <jenkins> we just need to have the meeting to get this format decidedd
[14:35]  * jenkins might e-mail the list
[14:45] <daker> jenkins, are they oki to work with us ?
[14:46] <zkriesse> mornin/afternoon/night fellow manual-ers
[14:48] <jenkins> daker i don't think there is a problem tbh I think people are making the divide up to an extent. we all do have the goal of making ubuntu documentation better.
[14:49] <jenkins> hey zkriesse
[14:50] <jenkins> does any one know where the wiki page with the help.ubuntu.com mock ups are?
[14:53] <daker> Mockups of the USLC ?
[14:54] <jenkins> yea found it
[14:54] <jenkins> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-support-and-learning-center
[14:55] <jenkins> bens wiki page is very uptodate unlike mine
[14:56]  * jenkins sends e-mail to all the teams
[14:56] <dutchie> i think ben is planning to go for membership in the very near future
[14:58] <jenkins> I would like to in 6-12 months
[14:58] <jenkins> this is mine https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LukeJennings
[15:00] <jenkins> its basically a template
[15:12] <daker> hey thorwil are you arround ?
[15:13] <thorwil> !
[15:14] <daker> i want a favor, our loco need to update the logo
[15:14] <daker> http://ubuntu-ma.org/
[15:14] <daker> can you make some mockups pls, if you want
[15:15] <daker> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Morocco.svg
[15:16] <thorwil> wow, without wanting to step on anyone's pride, that's a rather unfortunate color combination :)
[15:17] <thorwil> daker: is there consensus in the team that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MoroccanTeam?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=ubuntu-ma-logo-white.png doesn't cut it?
[15:20] <daker> this one isn't really good i think
[15:21] <thorwil> daker: i might get to it one of these days
[15:22] <daker> Oh thanks :)
[15:23]  * jenkins hopes quickshot is on thorwil's very long list ;)
[15:23] <nisshh> guys: check the ML
[15:24] <jenkins> what there is nothing there
[15:24] <daker> ther is
[15:24] <daker> there*
[15:25] <jenkins> who sent it?
[15:25] <daker> David Planella
[15:25] <jenkins> i don't have it
[15:27]  * jenkins reads it in launchpad
[15:27] <jenkins> wow thats cool
[15:27] <nisshh> jenkins: lol, you have slow updating email
[15:27] <jenkins> its not in gmail web even
[15:29] <nisshh> jenkins: wow, i got it like 5 seconds after i approved it
[15:29] <jenkins> #ubuntutranslators
[15:41] <jenkins> and the e-mail arives
[15:41] <daker> \o/
[15:41] <nisshh> hehe
[15:50] <daker> vish, is there any psd of the original design https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Brand2?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=homepage.png ?
[15:54] <vish> daker: i'm not sure there is
[15:54] <vish> i mean in the open :)
[15:57] <daker> vish ?
[15:57] <vish> daker: i meant to say , i dont have it :D
[15:58] <daker> i didn't receive anything :), that was a bug on ubuntu
[16:00] <daker> did any one know how can i catch a X server bug ?
[16:00] <jenkins> jam jar? ;D
[16:01] <vish> lol!
[16:01] <daker> what ?
[16:01] <jenkins> one of these http://www.google.co.uk/images?client=ubuntu&channel=cs&q=jam%20jar&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi
[16:02] <nisshh> lol...
[16:02] <daker> lol
[16:03] <jenkins> I have no useful answers but may be the bug team wiki might have something
[16:03] <jenkins> try #ubuntu-bug ?
[16:03] <jenkins> or #ubuntu-bugs one of those
[16:04] <vish> #ubuntu-bugs
[16:04] <vish> :)
[16:04] <vish> #ubuntu-x is better for those problems
[16:05] <daker> well i don't if it's X or not, but since i lost the X session and i can't access to the shell
[16:05] <daker> konw*
[16:06] <daker> on this desktop ubuntu is installed using wubi
[16:06] <jenkins> be back in an hour
[16:06] <jenkins> see ya
[16:06] <daker> on the others desktop and the laptop ubuntu is working perfectly
[16:07] <daker> see ya jenkins
[16:28] <daker> http://www.ikiw.org/2009/04/02/when-starting-a-wiki-dont-forget-design/
[16:52] <jenkins> godbyk: i guess you are not back yet but i have been playing with docbook to latex and it works quite nicely form the 5 mins i have done with it
[17:30]  * flan pushes a bunch of QS server tweaks.
[17:30] <flan> Hi, jenkins-who-used-to-be-ubuntu-jenkins.
[17:31] <jenkins> hey flan
[17:31] <daker> http://gobby.0x539.de/trac/wiki/WikiStart
[17:50] <jenkins> if dpm comes on tell him i will be back in a 30-60 mins
[18:35] <jenkins> evening all
[18:36] <thorwil> good evening!
[20:09] <jenkins> anyone else good with latex able to work out how to remove the very anoying table from page 2 of the pdf . (using this file http://pastebin.com/xABCYA7i )
[20:09] <jenkins> i have tried for ages with no luck
[20:11] <c7p> on what line (in tex file) does the pdf file start?
[20:12] <csgeek> I can try in a minute... but it shouldn't be too complicated
[20:13] <csgeek> as soon as I'm done breaking my kubuntu install
[20:16] <jenkins> c7p: line 47
[20:16] <jenkins> thanks guys
[20:19] <jenkins> evince in mavrick is much clearer for images
[20:20] <c7p> jenkins: do you have the pdf handy ?
[20:20] <jenkins> c7p: try http://ubuntuone.com/p/8VC/
[20:21]  * jenkins hopes ubuntuone works today
[20:21] <jenkins> c7p: has kvein built the german manual yet?
[20:22] <c7p> idk, maybe the autoscript did the job for him, but I don't know if he compiled it manually
[20:23] <c7p> which table do you want to remove?
[20:23] <jenkins> both on page two infact the whole of page two
[20:24] <jenkins> i used dblatex to convet docbook to latex, that made the file
[20:24] <c7p> so the whole content of page is for removal or only the two tables without their content ?
[20:25] <jenkins> whole page, I would like it to go title page, content
[20:25] <jenkins> no blank page or any tables inbetween
[20:29] <c7p> i think i found the lines for removal
[20:30] <c7p> hm the table must be from line 40-43, but I'm not completely sure
[20:32] <jenkins> that does remove one iirc, you can build it by doing xelatex *.tex
[20:33] <jenkins> nope it does not remove it
[20:37] <jenkins> this is so anyoing
[20:40] <c7p> i think the dblatex creates the table ... hold on
[20:41] <jenkins> ChrisWoollard: can you have a glance over http://ubuntuone.com/p/8VC/ and see if there is anything that needs editing please?
[20:41] <c7p> Guest57355: καλησπέρα
[20:42] <jenkins> c7p: dblatex gave me the .tex file. i think it puts something in the .tex file that makes the table.
[20:43] <c7p> hm can you check the options of the programme ?
[20:44] <jenkins> yea I am looking at them nothing about a table
[20:52] <Guest57355> hey c7p
[20:53] <c7p> can you help jenkins with his problem ?
[20:54] <jenkins> hey Guest57355 basically i want to remove everything on page two of http://ubuntuone.com/p/8VC/ and the page its self the tex file is  http://pastebin.com/xABCYA7i
[20:55] <Guest57355> let me see
[20:57] <jenkins> thanks
[21:02] <Guest57355> jenkins s there a docbook.sty that dblatex produced too?
[21:03] <jenkins> Guest57355: not in the same folder, i will check the file system just incase
[21:08] <jenkins> Guest57355: i think you might be onto something, the files in the doc folder all have that silly table in them
[21:10] <jenkins> found it /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/dblatex/style/docbook.sty
[21:10] <jenkins> Guest57355: what do i change to make it not use that style?
[21:11] <Guest57355> you may comment out thw usepackage{docbook} line but there might be some errors, i'm onto it
[21:15] <jenkins> yea that errors, thanks Guest57355 i will see if there is a crazy flag i can enable when making the .tex file to stop it using the bits that cause the error
[21:16] <Guest57355> well i managed to get rid of the two first pages
[21:18] <jenkins> o cool how?
[21:19] <jenkins> the first page was nice
[21:19] <jenkins> but it is a good start
[21:19] <Guest57355> you can comment out \maketitle line49
[21:20] <Guest57355> but this is not a solution
[21:20] <Guest57355> the best option would be a few changes at the preamble unless you want to keep the style that docbook produces
[21:20] <dutchie> is Guest57355 godbyk ?
[21:21] <daker> no
[21:22] <jenkins> I think i will scrap the preamble and start my own.
[21:22]  * jenkins starts to learn
[21:25] <jenkins> thanks Guest57355, i am removing bits and i will see what i get
[21:28] <Guest57355> actually you should remove evreything that refers to docbook and DBK commands. Also, remove hypersetup and use package {hyperref} instead
[21:32] <jenkins> Guest57355: thanks that comfirms my thinking
[21:34] <Guest57355> i'm working on a few modifications, i ll submit them to you
[21:34] <jenkins> cool thanks that sounds great
[21:34] <jenkins> I am not liking dblatex at the moment i think i need to understand it better
[21:38] <Guest57355> well the problem is that dblatex produces its own style and custom commands that in "clean" latex don't exist. It needs a general review before getting an output via xelatex
[21:42] <daker> jenkins, what you are trying to do ?
[21:43] <jenkins> Guest57355: yep i will hopefully find a way to sort that
[21:43] <jenkins> daker: well i am trying to sort out the translators translations guide thing on the mailing list
[21:49] <daker> ah oki
[21:50] <jenkins> we also needed to look into docbook -> latex conversion so it helps. not that i like it at the moment
[21:52] <daker> brb
[21:53] <Guest57355> jenkins, sth like this http://pastebin.com/2QPt0vkL would be a good place to start
[21:55] <Guest57355> produces sth like http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3182263/jenkins.pdf
[21:55] <Guest57355> of course i don't have the pic's
[21:56] <jenkins> thanks Guest57355 how would i decrease the margins so they are 2 cm each?
[21:57] <Guest57355> \usepackage[top=2cm, bottom=2cm, left=2cm, right=2cm]{geometry}
[21:59] <Guest57355> and adding \newpage after \maketitle and \tableofcontents would be good too
[22:00] <jenkins> I have
[22:00] <jenkins> \documentclass{article}
[22:00] <jenkins> \usepackage{graphicx}
[22:00] <jenkins> \usepackage{hyperref}
[22:00] <jenkins> \usepackage[top=2cm, bottom=2cm, left=2cm, right=2cm]{geometry}
[22:00] <jenkins> is that correct?
[22:01] <Guest57355> correct. of course you should add fontspec, xltxtra
[22:01] <jenkins> your file gives me http://pastebin.com/embeaCHc when i copy what you pasted earlier
[22:02] <Guest57355> http://pastebin.com/2QPt0vkL
[22:02] <c7p> night all
[22:03] <Guest57355> i think that link works
[22:03] <jenkins> yep that paste still getting it
[22:05] <Guest57355> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3182263/jenkins.tex
[22:05] <jenkins> still got the erroe
[22:05] <jenkins> r
[22:06] <jenkins> also the geometry does not work. I should let you go to bed, i must be late for you
[22:14] <Guest57355> try these http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3182263/jenkins.tex and http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3182263/jenkins.pdf
[22:15] <Guest57355> and \documentclass[xetex]{article}
[22:16] <Guest57355> except from the not boxes that should be replaced with another command everything seems fine
[22:18] <jenkins> thanks Guest57355 your great!
[22:20] <Guest57355> hope it helps
[22:20] <jenkins> it will do :)
[22:24] <jenkins> hey humphreybc
[22:24] <humphreybc> HEY
[22:24] <jenkins> how are you?
[22:24] <humphreybc> IT'S FUCKING EARLY AND I HAVEN'T HAD MUCH SLEEP
[22:24] <humphreybc> BUT that's okay
[22:24] <jenkins> language :)
[22:25] <humphreybc> there's plenty of work soon and my coffee should kick in
[22:25] <humphreybc> (take soon and put it at the end of that sentence)
[22:25] <humphreybc> at least it's sunny
[22:25] <jenkins> hehe, you and i always talk when one is getting up and the other is going to bed :)
[22:25] <dutchie> this is because humphreybc lives in a stupid time zone
[22:26] <humphreybc> In all fairness, New Zealand makes up for the poor timezone in other ways
[22:27]  * jenkins knows why it just apears strange
[22:27] <dutchie> what sort of other ways?
[22:29] <humphreybc> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand
[22:29] <dutchie> that's the wikipedia article on new zealand
[22:29] <humphreybc> it is
[22:30] <dutchie> unless you've just changed it to "NZ IS AWESUM", it doesn't really help your argument
[22:30] <humphreybc> we have smooth wool
[22:34]  * jenkins has been an idiot none of my changes were working because i saved the file in another folder. doh! idiot alert
[22:34] <jenkins> :(
[23:30] <jenkins> night all