[00:02] red2kic: I understand what you want to do. I don't know if Xen will do it or not, however. [00:02] As I said, I've considered it myself, and it wouldn't be a trivial setup. [00:03] Do you have lots of sysadmin experience and more time than money? [00:03] cjs: Gotcha. No sysadmin experience. I have time. Yes. [00:03] Or, perhaps a better way of approaching this is, why do you want to do this rather than just buy three or four cheap machines? [00:04] cjs: Because it is probably cheaper. [00:04] cjs: Not to mention... This approach probably reduce electricity uses too. [00:04] what do you want these machines to do [00:04] Ah. You definitely want just to buy several machines. Unless you're intending to learn a *lot* as the main purpose of this. [00:05] Actually, I don't think the electricity savings will be much, since monitors use as much power as low-power machines anyway. [00:05] i've personally never seen a system with multiple discrete input devices running distinct user sessions [00:05] Basic Internet Cafe. My friend will own a restaurant (will have cable + wifi). I was wondering how difficulty it would be to set up that. [00:06] i dont think you need xen [00:06] panfist: I have. Admittedly, all but one were "virtual" framebuffers and keyboards accessed with vnc. [00:06] well yeah that's pretty common [00:06] cjs: Don't leave the monitors idle too long. Use "sleep 1 && xset dpms force off" to force a monitor standby. :) [00:06] red2kic: Keep in mind, you need also deal with the possibility of hardware failure. [00:06] firstly, there is KVM which is a kernel supported virtualization platform [00:06] Do you really want to lose four terminals when a host blows up? [00:06] secondly, all the stuff for handling multiple user sessions is built into linux already [00:07] panfist: What do you mean by "kernel-supported?" [00:07] panfist: What packages am I looking for? Or you're talking about avoiding gdm entirely? Using .init* ? [00:07] "the kernel component of KVM is including in mainlinx linux as of 2.6.20" [00:08] i have no idea how to accomplish what you want other than I know you don't need xen to do it [00:08] red2kic: Speaking as someone who's been doing sysadmin for, oh, about twenty years now, you want just to go with a separate machine for each station. Otherwise your sysadmin costs will skyrocket, and you'll end up paying much more than you would for the separate host solution. [00:09] i would be inclined to agree with cjs [00:09] although i only have one year of formal sysadmin experience [00:10] cjs: There will be no sysadmin -- I'm just a desktop user who took a leap of faith down the rabbit hole and found himself in a bright world. [00:11] I'm looking for a simple solution approach -- A restaurant with few computers free for Internet usage. [00:11] I would have to update/upgrade all machines and should I change something, I'll have to change all too. Too much labor intensive? [00:14] red2kic: Well, you'll be the sysadmin. As I said, go with separate machines, and keep everything as bog-standard as you can. You want things to be as simple and "normal" as possible (i.e., using the most common configurations) so that you minimize the problems you'll have to deal with. [00:14] Keep in mind, I know what you want to do, I've wanted to do that myself, and I've never gone beyond the research stage because it is so difficult. [00:15] As for updating multiple hosts instead of one, a) you'd have that problem anyway if you used virtual hosts, since they're still separate hosts, and b) there are tools to deal with that sort of thing. [00:15] Though honestly, the work you'd have to put in to learn those tools is probably not worthwhile for a handful of hosts. [00:17] cjs: I understand. Avoid -desktop -- Go with... say gnome-core and avoid recommendations. Less configuration, less packages. I'm looking for this http://tinyurl.com/2fpntxe without paying for the license. :P [00:18] I guess I should try the trial. [00:18] Or you were talking about thin clients? [00:22] red2kic: I'm not sure what you mean by "avoid -desktop." Use whatever you use at home. [00:23] /msg NickServ identify sirius63 [00:24] red2kic: Ah, Useful Multiplier looks good. Go with that. === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond [00:31] red2kic: Actually, come to think of it, Useful Multiplier may cost more than it saves, unless you buy the hardware from them. Otherwise you're going to have to deal with building (or getting someone to build for you) a machine with several video cards in it. Finding an appropriate motherboard alone will be a bit of work. [00:32] Though their "Userful Desktop" product sounds good. [00:37] thesheff17: I figured out the issue with md using sda instead of sda2. The md superblock is in the last 128K of the block device. Depending on how the last partition is sized, the md superblock in the last partition may or may not fall within the last 128K of the disk holding that partition. If it does, then it will appear as an md superblock for the disk, as well as the partition. [01:51] Oh, crap. Only one of my two drives will boot. [01:51] They're both identical in the first megabyte except for a few bytes in sector 0. I wonder what's up with that? [01:52] And I know physically which one is ok, but how do I tell whether it's sda or sdb with both drives plugged in? [01:54] Ah, the disk signature at 0x1b8 is different between the two. So I guess the BIOS likes only one signature, and not the other. I wonder which one is good? [01:54] I guess I can hook up just the good drive to figure it out. [01:55] Oh, hmm....no, it's supposed to be different. Hmmm! [01:55] Thoughts, anyone? [01:55] (The issue is that one disk boots fine, whether it's on SATA 0 or SATA 1, the other, on either channel, gives me the BIOS message saying that no bootable disk was found.) [02:10] cjs you there? [02:12] cjs I have a feeling when grub goes to install it only actually installs on /dev/sda [02:12] I think you would have to manually install grub on /dev/sdb to get it to work [02:12] No, the installer does both, and I've manually done a grub-install /dev/sdb. [02:12] ah ok [02:13] then you know what you are doing === jjohansen is now known as jjohanse-afk [02:13] hmm.weird [02:13] maybe BOIS boot order? [02:14] Yeah. The only difference in the first megabyte is four bytes at 0x1b8, which is the disk signature, which is supposed to be different. [02:14] The non-booting disk fails on either channel, when it's the only disk in the system. [02:14] ah ok [02:14] strange [02:15] Very. Did you see my note above re the md superblock issue, by the way? [02:15] wonder if you re installed with the drives swapped would /dev/sdb not boot [02:15] oh wow [02:15] yea [02:15] I wonder that too. But I am getting *rather* sick of installing this thing.... [02:17] yea I have installed raid a bunch...but never really tested a whole lot with making sure the second drive actually boots [02:17] You might want to consider testing that. :-) [02:17] actually I have never...the worst case if the first dive fails...you can always use knoppix or the ubuntu cd to get the raid data [02:18] Sure, but in the meantime your host is down. If your other drive boots, just yank the broken one and boot. (Put in a spare then or later so you can rebuild, if you like.) [02:19] true [02:19] The point of RAID is, after all, continuous operation in the face of disk failure. If you're just concerned about the data, you can get it off your backups. [02:23] true...I just want to tell you I have had some really bad raid5 failures where I couldn't get the data back.... [02:23] so now I just stick to mdadm w/ raid1 [02:24] technically though should need grub on the second drive since if a drive fails...the machine should stay up :) [02:24] should not* I meant [03:02] i'm trying to follow the OpenLDAP server docs on the Lucid Server Guide; i get about halfway through when I'm prompted to "Enter LDAP Password:" and nothing works [03:03] In 8.04, there's a known bug in udev that makes it prefer LVM snaphots over origins when mounting by UUID or label. [03:04] Can I fix this by patching udev rules in-place, or are my only options 1) upgrade to 10.04; or 2) don't use UUID/labels? [03:29] hi there, i got a problem. I just added a new network card to my new ubuntu server and it is unable to take IP by dhcp. The server can recognize the network card. Somebody know what could be the problem? [03:31] Roxyhart0: Add lines to your /etc/network/interfaces to tell the server that card *should* use DHCP. [03:32] yes, it is ready...but still cant receive IP.. [03:33] Then I don't know. Firewall rules blocking DHCP?? [03:34] i dont think so because eth0 works but not eth1 [03:34] it is a PCI and is new [03:35] usually when i done before just install the card and dont neew to do nothing else [03:36] Roxyhart0: does it have carrier? Does tcpdump on that interface show network activity? [03:37] it is connected to my internal network, so the dhcp is internal and there are network activity but just in eth0 [03:37] Wait a sec...are both cards connected to the same physical network? [03:38] yes [03:39] What are you trying to achieve with that? [03:40] i want to configure a NAT server [03:40] so, i need 2 cards [03:40] at least [03:43] solved the problem...but not sure what was [03:43] thanks for the help [03:46] Roxyhart0: hang on, so you're running two different IP networks across one ethernet? [03:46] at the moment just for testing ...at the end one with be for the local network and the another for NAT === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [03:52] Well, ok. So long as you've got two different IP networks. Though it sounds like you don't. [04:04] yes i can move one for another subnet [06:12] i've been trying to get openldap server up and running with no success. if i want to start over, how do i know i'm starting from scratch and nothing left over from the previous try? [06:16] Remove the packages using "aptitude purge". [06:16] That will ensure that the configuration information, as well as the packages, are removed. [06:17] So when I do a minimal virtual server install of 10.04, and it asks about packages, what does the "Basic Ubuntu server" selection install? [06:18] Googling the term produces no results, unfortunately. [06:21] well you could try to just do it, then list the packages [06:22] i would look but http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid is not working for me [06:23] yes, but once I've installed them, I have a list of hundreds of installed packages, and I don't know which were installed by that option and which would have been installed anyway. [06:23] then just install it with that option [06:24] it's brute force but it'll give you the answer [06:24] That page works for me, but how would I find out what that option does? I've already checked with aptitude, but there's no package or meta-package or anything like that that I can find that resembles this "Basic Ubuntu server" option. [06:24] sorry if i'm recommending an ugly solution, i've been banging my head against openldap for 16 hours...brute force is all i have left in me [06:25] I think the issue is that I'm not clear on what solution you're recommending at all. :-) [06:26] i could get the answer in 5 minutes at work...open virtualbox, create new vm, configure an ubuntu vm, point to ubuntu server install media, install basic ubuntu server [06:26] dpkg -l [06:26] that site does seem to be back up. i notice momentary outages on packages.ubuntu.com all the time [06:32] Ah, install another one without the option checked, and then compare package lists. Yes, I can do that. [06:32] well i would have just installed it with only that option checked [06:32] if it's possible [06:33] yes, but then how do you tell which packages came with it and which did not? [06:33] if it's the only option checked...then don't all the packages come in it? am i missing something? [06:33] (If it's not clear, this is an option in addition to the "minimal virtual system" that's installed regardless.) [06:34] ahhh [06:34] No, this is in the additional packages selection screen. [06:34] You know, where you get DNS server, mail server, all of that? [06:34] When you install a "minimal" system, you also get that "Basic Ubuntu server" option as well. [06:34] I'm speccing a new lab. It'll be running 8.04 initially, then 10.04 later. The board I'm looking at has an rtl8111c gigE NIC. Is this handled by the rtl8169 driver? [06:34] then i think you're right, you would need to do two installations, since the documentation is definitely light [06:35] "No results from Google" isn't light; it's astonishing. :-) [06:36] ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-standard should both be pulled in by any normal ubuntu server install. [06:36] If that's undesirable, there are ways to prevent that. [06:36] twb: I've got an RTL8110s running fine under 10.4 right now, if that helps at all. Any reason you're starting with 8.04 than 10.04? [06:37] cjs: legacy [06:37] The SOE isn't ported to 10.04 yet [06:37] twb: I don't think it's undesirable; in fact, I probably don't care that much. I'm mostly just very curious. [06:38] Well, in particular I do care about what g*d-d**ned daemons it's going to start up on public interfaces, but that's an inevitable problem with Ubuntu, it seems. [06:38] cjs: a server install shouldn't have many of those. [06:38] cjs: what did ss -lp report? [06:39] ls /etc/init.d/ isn't exactly all that long [06:39] panfist: that's because most of its now in Ubuntu-specific /etc/init [06:39] o [06:39] well that's not long either :) [06:40] twb: Oh, that's a handy command. I didn't know about that. [06:41] But my real complaint is that I always have to remember to check when packages that might start servers (and there are a surprising number of them) are installed. It introduces a large amount of human error into the system. [06:41] Or forces me to install a firewall (yet more opportunity for human error) to firewall a system that shouldn't be listening on the damn ports in the first place. [06:43] you make a point but i don't think ubuntu's number one priority is security [06:44] Argh. Grr. The installer is changing my hostname again, too. That went away for a while, and now it's back. [06:45] cjs: if you're on an untrusted network, you should have a firewall. [06:45] panfist: Well, there's "not number one priority," and there's "come rape me if I'm connected to the Internet." Seriously. [06:45] cjs: simply having an open port doesn't mean there's an exploit there. [06:45] And no, firewalls are a hack to deal with systems you cannot properly secure. [06:46] No, but having a closed port means that there almost certainly isn't one. [06:46] so what's listening in a default server install? [06:46] Granted. [06:46] my twon installations i can see right now are both behind vpn/firewall and have been altered so far from vanilla i couldn't say [06:46] panfist: Not too much, actually. Though it turns out that I have passwordless vnc for all of my virtual servers on localhost. [06:47] Not sure what "dnsmasq" is. [06:47] cjs: that's the VM infrastructure's fault. [06:47] As is dnsmasq. [06:48] But what usually gets me is stuff like, I happen to need a copy of lighttpd installed to run some tests or something (I have several systems where the automated test framework uses it), and unless I remember, I'm now also running a public web server. [06:49] Hmm, I suspect that the dnsmasq may go away if I kill that NAT capability in virt-manager. [06:49] cjs: if it was up to me, daemons wouldn't automatically bind to *: by default [06:49] most daemons i have installed on ubuntu that have network capability default to listening to connections from localhost only [06:50] i don't know if that matters; security isn't a topic i'm an expert on [06:50] Currently defaults are done more or less to the whim of the package maintainer, so e.g. openssh-server listens to all interfaces by default, but dnsmasq and vsftpd do not. [06:50] i see [06:50] that's not good [06:51] cjs: you could also use tcpd and hosts.allow/hosts.deny in a "default deny" rule, but that's pretty much the same as a default deny firewall. [06:51] Certainly having a default deny firewall would guard you against accidentally installing a service and forgetting to making it bind to lo: only, as in your lighttpd example. [06:52] panfist: Actually, most daemons I've seen, unless they're obviously insecure listening publically (i.e., nobody would *ever* do it), do listen on all interfaces. [06:52] cjs: exim, postfix? :) [06:52] cjs: rsyslogd doesn't; portmap doesn't, vsftpd doesn't, dnsmasq doesn't. [06:52] then maybe i've only been playing around with those kinds of daemons [06:53] (Hmm, I might have to check portmap...) [06:53] It's not like tcpd or iptables-persistent is difficult to set up. For me it's just part of deployment best practices, like installing etckeeper. [06:53] twb: postfix does indeed listen on all interfaces by default, if the package is installed. [06:54] twb: The point is, if you don't know to do that, or try to set up things more securely and get it wrong, you end up insecure. [06:54] I.e., the "I don't know what I'm doing default" is to put you in danger, rather than keep you safe. [06:55] If you wanted a web server, it is quickly obvious if it's not running. If you don't want one, many people won't ever know that it is running. [06:55] This is a very basic principle of network security: "default to the safe configuration, and become less safe only when the admin explicitly requests it." [06:56] Because even the most experienced admin will sometimes forget or make a mistake. [07:04] I agree with you. [07:10] * ttx looks at the state of ISo testing this morning and is a sad poney [07:13] hi [07:13] is there a alternative technology for NFS Server ? [07:14] I mean replacing NFS [07:14] NFSv3, NFSv4, CIFS/SMB2 and AFS are widespread [07:51] Daviey: ping [07:53] How come I got \040 instead of all my spaces in mysql history after I upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04 ? [07:54] select * from test; became: select\040*\040from\040test; [08:05] ttx: PONG [08:05] Daviey: did you test the UEC install on yesterdays last ISo ? [08:05] Daviey: we should have a new ISO in ~20min [08:06] respin from yesterday was oversized [08:06] *sigh* [08:06] did you got a chance to test yesterday ? [08:06] ttx: Ok.. I have the school run to do today, but will be back in an hour. [08:07] ttx: Well i left it to get past the yaml issue, then killed it. [08:07] ok, so you still ahve to do the full topology 1 tsets anyway [08:07] (since nobody else did it overnight) [08:08] Daviey: see you in one hour :) [08:08] ttx: \o [08:30] I"m trying to configure my server with static ip addresses on two nic's One nic is connected to a local subnet, the other is connected to a second subnet, which also has internet access and a gateway. I have configured /etc/network/interfaces such that eth1 is on my local subnet, and eth0 is on the subnet which has internet access. I also configured eth0 with the proper gateway ip. I can ping to and from both subnets however, [08:30] I cannot ping out to the internet, I have checked my routes and they look correct. Any ideas? [08:31] where does your ping stop? [08:33] huh, I can ping to any host on both subnets, both of which are on the 192.168.something.host. eg 192.168.0.3 and 192.168.1.10 both work. but for instance ping -c 10 www.google.com doesn't work. [08:33] how about google dns with "ping 8.8.8.8"? [08:34] traceroute 8.8.8.8 [08:34] etc [08:35] that worked the ping 8.8.8.8 [08:35] mtr beats traceroute, and it's usually installed [08:35] so it's dns problem? [08:36] that is possible. [08:36] trapmax: try "host google.com", or dig, or getent hosts, or nslookup, or busybox nslookup [08:37] If that fails, but "host google.com 8.8.8.8" works, your resolv.conf is busted [08:38] twb: i would rather start with pinging [08:38] with an ip [08:38] trapmax: sure [08:39] the host www.google.com failed, but the host www.google.com 8.8.8.8 worked. [08:43] allright, I updated my resolv.conf and now it's working Thanks! [08:44] nice [08:44] And NEXT time, you'll know how to do it without asking us [08:44] If you're using DHCP, note that it tends to write resolv.conf, as does NM and pppoe and similar [08:44] In such cases its better to fix the DNS server than resolv.conf [08:54] thanks guys have a good one! [09:20] ttx: Hmm.. has it been posted? [09:20] not yet [09:20] ~35min [09:22] ttx: Reading scrollback in -release.. I don't understand what the plan is [09:22] Daviey: publisher just picked up the fixed hplip [09:22] ttx: Are we still going for 20100701? [09:22] Daviey: respin will start as soon as the archive catches up [09:22] ahh. ok, thanks [09:22] We'll have 20100701 available in ~35 min [09:23] DavidLevin: interesting sideeffect is... [09:23] oops [09:23] ttx: Super, thanks [09:23] Daviey: ^ [09:23] i386 will pick up the fixed kernel [09:23] \o/ [09:23] amd64 will still have the old one, with the fix a dist-upgrade away [09:23] Which i guess is good to test.. as i tend to develop on amd64 only. [09:25] Daviey: so as soon as they are available, please run the topology 1 tests -- we'll need to be sure it's good ASAP [09:25] I'll run the standard basic tests on i386/amd64 [09:28] ttx: yep, if i don't straight away -> can you hilight me if you see them posted. [09:28] thanks [10:00] * _ruben files Jeeves_' server [10:07] Daviey: it's all yours [10:08] ttx: great === Daviey_ is now known as Daviey [10:18] Daviey: if you start a test, mark it "started" [10:18] that should avoid duplication [10:19] ttx, I'll be doing that shortly.. just thrown it on USB [10:23] mmh any idea of "fallling" performance if I use a dynagen emulated cisco ios instead of iptables? [10:24] [and....any idea about law implications too] [10:37] morning [10:41] New bug: #600549 in m2crypto (main) "m2crypto fails to build from source in maverick" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/600549 [10:59] Daviey: how is it going ? [11:00] ttx, Doing the installation as we speak [11:20] Daviey: fwiw the amd64 fixed kernel is already a dist-upgrade away [11:20] (on up to date archives near you) [11:20] ttx, Hm.. how long ago? [11:21] ttx, I have a local mirror that might need manual syncing [11:21] I just tried on some fr.archive.ubuntu.com, they got it [11:21] must have been a question of minutes [11:21] if you sync now you should have it [11:21] Daviey: looking good so far ? i.e. installing ? [11:22] ttx, well i only wanted to commit one usb pendrive; and so "all in one" is installed and started as expected [11:22] ttx, not long started the installation of nc [11:22] yay [11:22] \o/ [11:25] * ttx updates his last test result and goes for lunch [11:28] Hi everyone ! [11:29] I'm trying to setup subdomain with virtualhosts but every subdomain redirects me to the folder of the domain... [11:29] this is my conf: http://pastebin.com/1u1wy21D [11:31] if someone have the time to take a look .. [11:53] Mateo_: maybe change the NameVirtualHost sub1.mondomain.com:80 to NameVirtualHost *:80 [12:04] trapmax: same error [12:23] I've added myself to the www-data group, and set /var/www/avdistribution to have 755 permissions, but can't edit files - any ideas? [12:24] Hi, I've been following the tutorial to set up Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud. During installation I specified a range of available IP addresses but when I try and start an instance the cluster controller says "FinishedVerify: Not enough resources available: addresses (try --addressing private)". Any ideas what might have happened? [12:24] KenBW2_work: It would need to be 775 to allow group members to write, I think [12:25] tola: sorry, i meant 775 [12:26] KenBW2_work: Did you apply chmod recursively using the -R flag? [12:26] yes [12:26] ls'ing the directory i'm trying to write to shows -rwxrwxr-x 1 www-data www-data 5542 2009-07-23 06:25 view.phtml [12:27] tola: as i understand it that shouldbe sufficient permissions [12:27] KenBW2_work: yes, if you're a member of www-data it should be [12:27] $ grep www-data /etc/group [12:27] www-data:x:33:giant [12:28] giant is my user [12:30] looks Ok to me [12:30] tola: i assume being in the www-data group and having 775 permissions is all i should need? [12:31] kirkland, Daviey, ccheney: please cover the UEC topologies in server ISO testing + some UEC cloud image testing [12:32] smoser: please cover AP AMIs + cloud image testing on Lucid UEC if you have some time [12:32] ttx, Trying... but it seems i'm sort of blocked on another kernel issue \o/ [12:32] hallyn, SpamapS: please cover some of the remaining tests on amd64 and i386 ISOs [12:32] KenBW2_work: yes I would have thought so [12:33] hallyn: there is a "virtualization host" test that should be good for you, in particular [12:33] Daviey: another kernel issue ? One that wasn't in the PPA test kernel ? [12:34] a platofrm issue, NIC not working [12:34] ttx, ^ [12:34] ah. [12:34] ttx, Talking with the kernel peeps atm about it [12:34] I can tell it works alright on the laptop, so it must be one of the others [12:35] ttx, bug 591707 [12:35] Launchpad bug 591707 in linux "After upgrade lucid -> maverick eth0 interface is gone" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/591707 [12:35] that makes testing by kirkland/ccheney/hggdh all the more important [12:35] if you're blocked by your hw [12:35] I'm not sure it should be added to the tracker, as it's pot luck i happend to have that hardware.. What do you think? [12:36] ttx, Would you object if the kernel team asked me to upgrade the bios? [12:36] I agree [12:36] the bios of what ? Those rigs are yours now, do what you want of them :) [12:37] ok.. thanks [12:37] I just didn't wanna get moaned at if they break :P [12:40] spineau: around ? [12:41] ttx: hello [12:41] spineau: you still have 2 work items marked TODO for Alpha2: [12:41] Ensure access to additional rig #2 (Sylvain reported issues) [12:41] Ensure hggdh2's test additions work in checkbox [12:42] do you plan to complete them by the end of the day ? [12:42] or are they no longer relavnt, or should they be postponed ? [12:42] relevant* [12:42] ttx: let me check [12:44] ttx: second item can be closed, hggdh is well aware of checkbox recent additions [12:44] ok, could you mark it as DONE, then ? [12:44] what about the first one ? [12:44] ttx: access to the rig #2, I guess it's the platform one , right ? [12:44] spineau: I... suppose [12:45] When installing Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud I provided a range of IP addresses and I can see that range in my /etc/eucalytpus.local.conf - but when I type "euca-describe-addresses" I get nothing [12:45] ttx: if yes, I haven't tried it, I'll postpone this one [12:46] ttx: I'm going to update the blueprint [12:46] spineau: mark as POSTPONED, then copy it to alpha3 as TODO [12:46] ttx: ok, thanks [12:47] thank you ! [12:47] Also, I don't understand the relationship between eucalytpus.conf and eucalytus.local.conf which have conflicting settings? [12:49] eucalyptus.local.conf seems to be a addition made by Ubuntu to the upstream code [12:56] tola: "man eucalyptus.conf" is your friend [12:56] (also an Ubuntu addition to upstream code) [12:58] ttx: I was just reading that actually and now I understand that eucalyptus.local.conf takes precedence and used by euca_conf and shouldn't be edited directly. What I don't understand is that the config looks OK but euca-describe-addresses still returns nothing [12:59] tola: right, that's the key issue [12:59] tola: what is your VNET_PUBLICIPS value ? [13:00] ttx: 192.168.1.61-192.168.1.65 [13:00] for the full config: http://pastebin.com/BB8k0rfs [13:00] That's what was generated during installation [13:01] hm, looks ok to me [13:01] tola: i suggest you look into the logs for obvious errors... and if you can't find out, open a bug [13:01] ttx: OK, will do [13:02] Daviey: you have one TODO left which sounds like something you can't complete before the end of A2: "week 8 eucalyptus, euca2ools merge" [13:03] Daviey: unless it's done already ? [13:04] ttx, Well it depends entirely what it means :) [13:04] I can't do a merge this week, as we haven't had a new code drop [13:04] ok, then it should just be removed [13:05] ttx, However, if i go through the cycle of doing a merge - i can call it done - even if no code changes? :) [13:05] then you should mark it DONE :) [13:05] hah [13:05] your call... not TODO in all cases [13:05] Well week 8 merge is up to date.. so i'll mark it DONE [13:05] \o/ [13:08] what is "--addressing private" for when starting instances? [13:08] tola: it's to avoid allocation of a public IP [13:09] ttx: Where "public" means? [13:10] * ttx is tempted to answer "not private"... [13:10] EC2-like instances have a private address [13:10] one that can be used between instances [13:10] you /can/ allocate them a public IP [13:11] so that they are reachable from outside the cloud itself [13:11] OK, that makes sense thanks. I was wondering if it might mean public as available to the whole Internet vs. private behind a firewall [13:18] ttx, i'll try the ap tests again right now. [13:18] smoser: cool [13:25] morning [13:28] ttx, i'll get on the UEC testing. i'm still getting insufficient capacity on ap-southeast-1 for the tests. it seems i can't get more than 1 or 2 instances. [13:28] smoser: ok, cool [13:29] i think we may have to accept that they're not going to get done. [13:29] sure [13:29] smoser: don't forget to keep time to mark off your last work items [13:29] i wish i had the problem where so many people wanted to give me money that I couldn't keep up. [13:31] hggdh, kirkland: around ? [13:31] hallyn: ping [13:51] ttx: . [13:51] ttx: what's up [13:53] ttx, doing testing [13:54] ccheney: cool, are you on a specific testcase ? [13:54] ttx, just started up again, but i had done the simple vm run through already with it working [13:54] hallyn: could you cover up some tests, like for example the "virtualization host" tests ? [13:55] ttx, are the rest on the iso.qa tracker? [13:55] ccheney: I'm mostly concerned by the UEC tests, since Daviey is blocked [13:56] ttx: sure, i'm trying tof ind those at the website... [13:56] hallyn: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/4297/265 and http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/4298/266 [13:56] hallyn: mark them started if you start them [13:58] ttx: i recon' those must be doen on bare metal :) [13:58] hallyn: that's easier, yes [13:58] ok, will do [13:58] ttx, ok working on them now [13:59] ttx: one last q - am i skewing the results by converting the iso's to a usb stick isntead of booting cd? [13:59] hallyn: no [13:59] that's perfectly acceptable :) [13:59] excellent. starting now [14:00] Hi, is it possible to chnage the "Display Name" field with snmpd ? I can set "syslocation" and "syscontact" in smpd.conf but what about other fields? [14:04] just adding "sysname foobar" did the trick [14:24] kirkland / ccheney: Are you around? [14:24] Daviey, yes [14:25] ccheney, Call? [14:25] oh sorry [14:25]