[10:59] <davmor2> morning all
[11:00] <davmor2> ara: there are issues with wubi trying to get some details for ev now
[11:01] <ara> davmor2, morning davmor
[11:01] <ara> davmor2, thanks for testing, you rock!
[11:17] <sbeattie> Hrm, is seeing a fatal error before plymouth comes up on kubuntu about being unable to insert the ramzswap module due to unknown symbols known?
[11:20] <sbeattie> Okay, I see it with both the ubuntu and kubuntu amd64 desktop isos... seeing if I see it on the i386 isos.
[11:22] <sbeattie> yep, i386 as well.
[11:36] <ara> sbeattie, your kubuntu desktop looks like the netbook version? is that normal?
[11:37] <sbeattie> ara: I can't get the kubuntu desktop image to come up at all.
[11:37] <ara> sbeattie, well, I haven't installed, I was talking about the live mode
[11:38] <sbeattie> Right, I was trying to install it, but I think I'm hitting OOM due to the compcache/ramzswap issue; I'll give my guest more memory and try the live environment.
[13:10] <sbeattie> ara: sigh, my test server finally caught up. Yes, I'm seeing the netbook environment for the kubuntu livecd
[13:10] <sbeattie> (amd64)
[13:10] <ara> I was trying to contact Ridell, but he doesn't seem to be around
[13:12] <ara> is kubuntu-meta a good candidate for a bug report?
[13:12] <sbeattie> probably
[13:13]  * sbeattie needs to go back to bed for a bit.
[13:18] <ara> night sbeattie
[13:18] <ara> morning pedro_
[13:18] <pedro_> hello ara
[13:24] <charlie-tca> Good morning. A good day today, I hope.
[14:28] <bladernr_> Hey... trying an upgrade... but she's not finding anythin'
[14:29] <bladernr_> bug time or something already known?
[14:31] <bladernr_> NM... network problem resolved.
[14:40] <charlie-tca> upgrade from 10.04 won't work unless you reset the update-manager file. It is set by default to upgrade from LTS to LTS only
[14:43] <ara> charlie-tca, it worked for me
[14:44] <charlie-tca> Maybe the file is changed now.
[14:44] <charlie-tca> and I am wrong again
[14:55] <bladernr_> charlie-tca:  yeah, knew that... I did something stupid and my test system didn't grab and IP address like it should have
[15:00] <mvo> charlie-tca: I fixed that a couple of days ago
[15:09] <primes2h> ara: Hello.
[15:09] <ara> primes2h, hey!
[15:09] <ara> primes2h, how are you=
[15:09] <ara> ?
[15:09] <primes2h> ara: fine thanks! are you well?
[15:09] <ara> good thanks :)
[15:10] <primes2h> ara: I have a big problem, I can't get more bug entry fileds on the ISO tracker
[15:10] <primes2h> s/fileds/fields
[15:10] <primes2h> Just 3
[15:11] <ara> have you try to post your result with just 3, and then click on more bugs?
[15:11] <primes2h> Yes
[15:11] <primes2h> no luck
[15:11] <primes2h> it reloads the page
[15:12] <primes2h> but it doesn't add more fields
[15:12] <ara> primes2h, can you file a bug against ubuntu-qa-website? I will have a look before alpha3
[15:13] <ara> in the mean while, please, file the 3 more important in those fields, and the rest as comments
[15:13] <primes2h> ara: I tried to set the test has completed (passed) and the update it but no luck as well
[15:13] <primes2h> d/the
[15:13] <primes2h> ara: Ok!
[15:14] <ara> primes2h, I discovered a workaround
[15:14] <ara> primes2h, if you want to try
[15:15] <primes2h> ara: sure, tell me.
[15:15] <ara> put 3 bugs, then "more bug fields", then edit one of the already selected ones and submit
[15:15] <ara> 4 fields should appear
[15:17] <primes2h> ara: ahah... I tought about that but didn't tried ;-)
[15:17] <ara> did it work?
[15:17] <ara> primes2h, ^
[15:18] <primes2h> ara: no. :-(
[15:18] <ara> mmm, it worked for me
[15:19] <ara> what are the steps you did?
[15:19] <primes2h> ara: oh yes.
[15:19] <primes2h> ara: wait
[15:19] <primes2h> it works if I click on "More bug entry fields" but it doesn't if I click on Update result.
[15:20] <primes2h> after changing the bug number
[15:20] <primes2h> ara: so it works now! :-) Thank you
[15:21] <primes2h> I'll mention it on the bug report.
[15:21] <ara> primes2h, yes, please, do, so we can point people with the same question to that bug report
[15:21] <primes2h> ara: sure.
[15:56] <fader_> Is it safe to grab the kubuntu DVD and start testing it or are there more respins coming on it?
[15:59] <ara> fader_, no respins planed
[16:00] <fader_> ara: Awesome, thanks.  That was my guess but I'd rather find out before I start testing :)
[16:00] <fader_> I can only test i386 images at the moment so someone else will have to do the amd64 :(
[16:00]  * fader_ will fix that before Alpha 3.
[16:01] <ara> fader_, I cannot access the iso tracker at this moment, can you?
[16:02] <marjo> fader_: can't access either
[16:02] <fader_> ara: Nope, not now... it was fine ~5-10 minutes ago
[16:02] <fader_> It looks like a proxy/cache issue
[16:04] <bladernr_> anyone having problems accessing launchpad?
[16:05] <bladernr_> also, has anyone had success with d-i via the alternate images?
[16:05] <fader_> bladernr_: Yeah, looks like you broke lp
[16:05] <fader_> bladernr_: alternate -studio i386 worked just fine for me last night
[16:05] <bladernr_> all I did was sh ./fader_lp_updates.sh
[16:05] <bladernr_> :(
[16:06] <bladernr_> hrmmm... ok... maybe it's whatever happened to lp and qa.u.c
[16:06] <fader_> Oh man, if the launchpad folks are taking updates from me we might as well all give up and go home
[16:06] <bladernr_> I can't reach LP or isotracker, and whatever killed that could be what is killing my d-i install then (it's dying where it checks the repositories for software)
[16:07] <fader_> edge.launchpad.net is borked too
[16:07] <fader_> Yeah, that might be it
[16:08] <bladernr_> heh... I'd have said I'll hold off on opening a bug until I try later, but I can't even open a bug right now :/  heh
[16:11] <fader_> iso.qa.u.c and lp are back up
[16:22] <primes2h> fader_: launchpad is still down :-(
[16:22] <fader_> primes2h: Working for me
[16:23] <primes2h> fader_: It's 15 minutes I'm trying to report a bug :-( timeout error
[16:23] <primes2h> now
[16:24] <primes2h> before it was down
[16:24] <fader_> Hmm... I haven't tried reporting anything but loading bugs was working well
[16:25] <primes2h> fader_: no way, tried edge too.
[16:28] <primes2h> fader_: now it works. It happened reporting a bug against a not existing package.
[16:28] <bladernr_> repos are back at least... my d-i install is working properly now...
[16:28] <fader_> Ah, heh :)
[16:29] <primes2h> fader_: it should tell the package doesn't exist, shouldn't it? ;-)
[16:30] <fader_> primes2h: Heh, probably.  File a bug ;)
[16:30] <bladernr_> ahh... nope... failed :( it installed the base packages. guess I'm back to bug filing...
[16:30] <primes2h> ara: is "ubuntu-qa-website" correct?
[16:30] <ara> primes2h, yes
[16:30] <primes2h> ara: I can't file the bug against that project
[16:30] <ara> primes2h, why¿¿
[16:31] <ara> primes2h, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-website/+filebug
[16:31] <ara> can you try again please'
[16:32] <fader_> Hmm, where should I file kubuntu-specific ubiquity bugs?  Still against ubiquity?
[16:32] <fader_> I don't see a 'kubuntu' project
[16:32] <bladernr_> crud... ok, what's the proper package for filing against d-i?
[16:32] <bladernr_> fader_:  ^^ also kubuntu :/
[16:33] <fader_> bladernr_: debian-installer
[16:33] <bladernr_> OK... which means upstream then... cool.  Just wanted to be sure
[16:34] <ara> fader_, still ubiquity
[16:35] <ara> bladernr_, what do you mean by upstream?
[16:35] <fader_> ara: Okay, thanks.  I wasn't sure as it's a theming issue.
[16:35] <primes2h> ara: I get it, I had to report the bug against Ubuntu before because I was getting a lot of timeout errors, then I tried to change it but I couldn't do it. Then I opened a new task against Ubuntu QA Website setting Invalid the Ubuntu  one.
[16:35] <bladernr_> bugs.launchpad.net/debian-installer says I have to file at bugs.debian.org
[16:35] <bladernr_> ara:  ^^^
[16:35] <primes2h> bug #600685
[16:35] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 600685 in ubuntu (and 1 other project) "Cannot add more than 3 bug entry fields in the ISO Tracker. (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/600685
[16:35] <ara> bladernr_, you have to file agasint the ubuntu package
[16:35] <bladernr_> ahhhh... ok
[16:36] <ara> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+filebug
[16:36] <ara> primes2h, thanks!
[16:36] <primes2h> ara: np :-)
[16:37] <ara> fader_, what do you want to file? that it does not have a proper theme?
[16:37] <ara> fader_, cause I already filed that one
[16:37] <ara> fader_, in case you want to confirm it
[16:38] <fader_> ara: Heh, that was the one.  I didn't see it when searching.
[16:38] <ara> fader_, let me find it for you
[16:38] <fader_> ara: Thanks!
[16:38] <fader_> It's really ugly
[16:38] <fader_> :)
[16:38] <ara> fader_, bug 600646
[16:38] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 600646 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu ubiquity is unthemed (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/600646
[16:38] <fader_> ara: Thanks!
[16:38] <bladernr_> ara:  why is there no easy way to do that? ex: b.lp.net/debian-installer tells me to file at debian.org, bugs.lp.net/ubuntu report a bug link sends me to the wiki that says find the package name but doesn
[16:39] <bladernr_> doesn't make it easy... sigh...
[16:39] <bladernr_> ara, sorry... just frustrated
[16:40] <ara> bladernr_, we are trying to avoid people filing bugs without package
[16:41] <cyphermox> bladernr_: from inside ubiquity can't you use ubuntu-bug?
[16:41] <bladernr_> right... like I said... just frustrated, since to me, at least, the obvious course would have been the b.lp.net/debian-installer page...
[16:41] <ara> cyphermox, he's using the alternate
[16:41] <bladernr_> cyphermox:  d-i, not ubiquity... so no :( AFAIK, there's no ubuntu-bug in d-i...
[16:41] <cyphermox> ah, then yeah, you can't :P
[16:42] <bladernr_> uhh.. ara beat me to it
[16:42] <bladernr_> it would be nice to have that feature in d-i though...
[16:42] <ara> bladernr_, we had an UDS session on that
[16:42] <cyphermox> bladernr_: it's stuff we discussed in UDS though, which we are supposed to do something about
[16:42] <ara> cjwatson will work on it
[16:45] <bladernr_> yeah, I know... I'm impatient :-)
[16:45] <bladernr_> ara:  OT: your package arrived today!
[16:45] <ara> bladernr_, cool!
[16:45] <ara> :)
[16:45] <ara> bladernr_, thanks!
[16:45] <bladernr_> no problem :)
[16:45] <cyphermox> bladernr_: no, it's good to bring the issue up
[16:45] <ara> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/qa-maverick-apport-udebs
[16:46] <ara> I thought it was cjwatson who commited to those changes, but it is assigned to you, cyphermox
[16:46] <ara> and I cannot see the tasks that we agreed during the session, nor the spec
[16:46] <ara> sbeattie, marjo: ^ ?
[16:51] <Riddell> ara: I commented on bug 600632 (although it came up as jussi), I think we're going to have to explain this loud and clear as I expect we'll get lots of similar comments
[16:51] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 600632 in kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu Maverick Desktop Live shows Kubuntu Netbook desktop instead (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/600632
[16:52] <Riddell> also kubuntu-netbook images aren't needed but I can't work out how to remove them from the trqacker
[16:56] <ara> Riddell, I can remove them. Let me know when you want them to be removed
[16:58] <fader_> Does anybody have the i386 kubuntu DVD downloaded?
[16:58] <fader_> I'd like to see if someone can confirm bug 600697
[16:58] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 600697 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "[maverick] kubuntu DVD install crashes (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/600697
[16:58] <Riddell> ara: remove kubuntu netbook now if you can
[16:59] <Riddell> ara: who do I ask to get a "netbook live session" test added to kubuntu desktop images?
[16:59] <ara> Riddell, I can do that as well
[16:59] <ara> Riddell, can you send me an email with exact details of what you want?
[16:59] <Riddell> cool, yes I'll e-mail