[13:35] <fbxxkl_> Hi everyone.  Trying to set up my wireless card but its a bit confusing
[13:35] <fbxxkl_> anyone have experience with this?
[13:37] <jussi> fbxxkl_: tell us more about what you have done, which wireless card etc and we can see if we can help you.
[13:37] <fbxxkl_> Ok.  I installed Ubuntu-Studio 10.4
[13:38] <fbxxkl_> I have a ralink wireless card.  and when I checked in terminal to see if it was installed it showed up with drivers
[13:38] <fbxxkl_> So i go to System -> Administration -> network and I see wlan0
[13:38] <fbxxkl_> network tools*
[13:38] <fbxxkl_> But I have no options to connect to my wireless network right now
[13:39] <fbxxkl_> and I put the icon in my panel for usage like that and it doesn't show the wireless card it only shows lo and eth0
[13:41] <fbxxkl_> "Network controller" "RaLink" "RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI" "RaLink" "Device 2561"
[13:42] <jussi> ok, are you familiar with the terminal at all?
[13:43] <jussi> is it listed when you do:  ifconfig
[13:43] <jussi> ?
[13:43] <jussi> and do you have wired networking where you are at the moment
[13:43] <jussi> fbxxkl_: ^^
[13:44] <fbxxkl_> Ill check
[13:44] <fbxxkl_> yess
[13:44] <fbxxkl_> I am connected via wired
[13:44] <fbxxkl_> at the moment but its a big yellow cord going through my living room which is why I am trying to switch to my wireless card.
[13:45] <fbxxkl_> And to clarify I have used my wireless card with regular ubuntu 9.10/10.4 before
[13:45] <fbxxkl_> So I know it "Should" work
[13:45] <fbxxkl_> ok I did if config
[13:45] <fbxxkl_> ifconfig* and it does not show up there
[13:46] <fbxxkl_> I get my loopback and my standard ethernet
[13:47] <fbxxkl_> ok i did ifconfig -a and it shows up
[13:47] <fbxxkl_> jussi: ^^
[13:48] <jussi> ok
[13:48] <jussi> do you have networkmanager-gnome installed?
[13:48] <jussi> !infor networkmanager-gnome
[13:48] <jussi> !info networkmanager-gnome
[13:48] <ubottu> Package networkmanager-gnome does not exist in lucid
[13:49] <jussi> !info network-manager-gnome
[13:49] <ubottu> network-manager-gnome (source: network-manager-applet): network management framework (GNOME frontend). In component main, is optional. Version 0.8-0ubuntu3 (lucid), package size 461 kB, installed size 4832 kB
[13:49] <fbxxkl_> hmm
[13:49] <fbxxkl_> good question
[13:49] <fbxxkl_> I don't think i do.  Isn't that something that should come standard??
[13:50] <fbxxkl_> Ok I am installing it.  I assume that should resolve any gui issues I have connected my wireless device
[13:50] <jussi> no, its not installed in ubuntustudio by default as it can affect latency (so best to turn it off if you are doing stuff with jack)
[13:50] <jussi> hopefully...
[13:51] <jussi> you may need to start it with alt+f2 -> nm-applet
[13:51] <fbxxkl_> what is jack?  I am new to ubuntu-studio mostly used mac's/and windows pc's in the past
[13:51] <jussi> !info jack
[13:51] <ubottu> jack (source: jack): Rip and encode CDs with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.1+cvs20050801-26 (lucid), package size 148 kB, installed size 668 kB
[13:51] <jussi> no...
[13:51] <jussi> !find jack
[13:51] <ubottu> Found: libjack-dev, libjack0, pulseaudio-module-jack, pulseaudio-module-jack-dbg, alsaplayer-jack (and 23 others)
[13:51] <jussi> hang on
[13:52] <fbxxkl_> heh lot of jack's :P
[13:52] <jussi> !info jackd
[13:52] <ubottu> jackd (source: jack-audio-connection-kit): JACK Audio Connection Kit (server and example clients). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.118+svn3796-1ubuntu2 (lucid), package size 101 kB, installed size 536 kB
[13:52] <jussi> :)
[13:52] <fbxxkl_> interesting.
[13:53] <AutoStatic> It's a sound daemon
[13:54] <AutoStatic> Like PulseAudio
[13:54] <fbxxkl_> Ah
[13:54] <fbxxkl_> Yea the whole sound thing on Ubuntu really confuses me like alsa and oss
[13:54] <fbxxkl_> well linux in general I haven't quite grasped that yet
[13:54] <jussi> sound in ubuntu is very confusing :P
[13:54] <AutoStatic> ALSA and OSS are driver stacks
[13:54] <jussi> anyway, Im of fhome!
[13:55] <jussi> laters all
[13:55] <fbxxkl_> thanks for all your help jussi
[13:55] <AutoStatic> PulseAudio and JACK sit on top of that
[13:55] <jussi> no probs
[13:55] <fbxxkl_> so the sound daemon is what controls the driver stacks?
[13:56] <AutoStatic> When it comes to mixing yes
[13:56] <AutoStatic> But this is specifically the case for PulseAudio
[13:56] <fbxxkl_> So what would an equivelent be in say Windows or OSX?
[13:57] <fbxxkl_> if there is one
[13:57] <AutoStatic> Basically a sound daemons allows for multiple apps to play sound simultanuously
[13:57] <fbxxkl_> Ah ok
[13:57] <AutoStatic> JACK=ASIO+Rewire
[13:57] <AutoStatic> PulseAudio is like the 'consumer' daemon
[13:58] <fbxxkl_> could you say its the 'default' or 'generic' daemon?
[13:58] <AutoStatic> Yes, PulseAudio is the default in Ubuntu
[13:59] <fbxxkl_> ah ok
[13:59] <AutoStatic> Because it's better suited for desktop use
[13:59] <fbxxkl_> ps. this is why i love linux/ubuntu users because getting this out of some people for another OS would be like pulling teeth but everyone who works with linux/ubuntu is so helpful
[14:00] <AutoStatic> :)
[14:00] <fbxxkl_> ok I installed some updates brb while i restart
[14:05] <fbxxkl> Well that stinks now I got an error with my video card when I restarted
[14:39] <unodelchat> Hola
[14:43] <rlameiro> ubottu: hola
[14:44] <rlameiro> unodelchat:hola
[14:44] <unodelchat> you speak spanish ?
[14:44] <rlameiro> yes
[14:45] <unodelchat> que lastima que mi targeta de sonido no funcione en linux
[14:45] <rlameiro> que tarjeta es?
[14:45] <unodelchat> creamware
[14:46] <rlameiro> huh?
[14:46] <rlameiro> never ear of that
[14:47] <unodelchat> sabes algo de Ndiswrapper ?
[14:47] <rlameiro> no
[14:47] <unodelchat> Ndiswrapper es solo para drivers de wifi ?
[14:47] <rlameiro> pero me parece que es mas para wifi
[14:48] <unodelchat> es posible que como no conocen el resto de marcas de targetas de sonido se piensen que lo unico que faltan drivers son los de wifi
[14:51] <unodelchat> Ndiswrapper can be a solution for those not compatible sound card ?
[14:51] <unodelchat> help
[14:52] <rlameiro> unodelchat: i dont think so, because it needs to integrate with alsa
[14:52] <rlameiro> is it external usb?
[14:53] <unodelchat> <rlameiro> which sound card you have ?
[14:53] <unodelchat> is PCI
[14:53] <rlameiro> well, then even worse
[14:53] <rlameiro> but you should try it
[14:54] <unodelchat>  <rlameiro> which sound card you have ?
[14:55] <rlameiro> i have 3 actually
[14:55] <rlameiro> a ua-4fx, FA-101 and the onboard crappy and bad intel hda onboard
[14:55] <rlameiro> ua-4fx is a usb one, the fa-101 is firewire