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DarkwingDuckYay. My service in the US Navy has been retained. I'm no longer jobless00:54
ScottKlex79: I should be able to get to it later tonight.01:54
ScottKDarkwingDuck: Congratulations.01:54
ScottKlex79: Does -workspace need uploading?01:55
DarkwingDuckthanks ScottK01:58
jjesseDarkwingDuck congrats for something01:58
ScottKjjesse: Not being unemployed.01:59
DarkwingDuckjjesse: i get to keep my job01:59
jjessethat's awesome01:59
DarkwingDuckoh yeah01:59
jjessemiltary right?02:00
DarkwingDuck Navy02:00
jjessenow if we can just find a job for nixternal02:00
DarkwingDuckyeah i know02:01
JontheEchidnaScottK: when you get a chance to look at kdeutils, could you also push konversation through new queue please?02:05
ScottKI'll try.02:07
lex79ScottK: yes for -workspace02:07
* ScottK looks at JontheEchidna to take care of workspace then.02:08
ScottKThanks.  Back later.02:08
lex79also this please https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-kde/+bug/60072202:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 600722 in meta-kde (Ubuntu) "kde-standard: Depends: korganizer (>= 4:4.4.90) but it is not going to be installed" [Undecided,Confirmed]02:08
jjesseis the official name Kubuntu Netbook Remix or Kubuntu Netbook Edition?02:30
ScottKjjesse: Officially it's Kubuntu Netbook Remix.03:57
claydohare there any major Known Issues for Alpha2 that should be mentioned ?04:08
claydohin the release notes04:08
ScottKProbably, not sure what though.  It's working well enough for me.  I mean it's an Alpha, if you install it on something you care about and it eats your system, don't be suprised if people see humor in that.04:35
claydohthere are the usual caveats :) plus the default browser is still Konq, at least in terms of System Settings :)04:48
claydohit is working very well for me too, but I just installed it04:48
claydohexcept for rekonq crashing before I could save my wiki work :(04:49
claydohRiddell: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MaverickMeerkat/Alpha2/Kubuntu05:47
shadeslayerclaydoh: doh We want to hear what you think about this Alpha 2 Release of Kubuntu 10.04. We want to know if it Rocks, if it is just OK, or it is flat out wrong. No matter the feedback, as long as it is in line with the Ubuntu Code of Conduct we would like to hear it.05:49
shadeslayerclaydoh: s/10.04/10.1005:49
claydoh:P thats why I have preoof readers :)05:53
claydoherr proof readers05:54
claydohI do have my new glasses, honest!05:54
ScottKJontheEchidna: We need to wait until Knoversation is built on more archs to pull it out of New.06:26
apachelogger\o/ only one exam left08:35
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: umbrello falls over when trying to import libqapt :P08:45
apacheloggerkubotu: np09:34
kubotuapachelogger listened to "Monster" by Beatsteaks [Smacksmash, 2004] 7 days ago; [http://open.spotify.com/track/09RX0f7At2hnLRpZtz5YBx] -- see http://www.last.fm/user/apachelogger for more09:34
apacheloggerah right09:34
* apachelogger noticed that last.fm is loads of inefficient during startup ^^09:34
apacheloggerofirk_: it is Mozilla Firefox not Firefox09:45
apacheloggerhttp://staging.www.kubuntu.org/feature-tour <-- using latter here09:46
apacheloggerJontheEchidna, Riddell: shall I upload my super awesome desktop file patch?09:51
apacheloggerkubotu: topic del 409:54
=== kubotu changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Alpha 2 released! | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTutorialsDay Wed 7th July 18:00UTC | Lex is kubuntu-developer \o/
apacheloggerlex79: congrats btw :)09:54
CIA-99[messages] zepires * 1145218 * trunk/l10n-kde4/pt/messages/ (5 files in 5 dirs) Finished HEAD for now09:56
* apachelogger throws translations after JontheEchidna09:58
apacheloggershadeslayer, bulldog98, Quintasan, lex79: suggestions on how to improve ninja packaging quality?09:59
Riddellapachelogger: yes go for it10:01
CIA-99[kdelibs] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100702090803-0ehr7p80vrhrp0ha * releasing version 4:4.4.90-0ubuntu210:08
TroubleGosh, that upgrade from Lucid to Maverick was pretty smooooth :-p10:15
* Trouble risks turning on desktop effects now he's upgraded10:16
ghostcuberc1 rox10:21
ghostcubei have again working wallpapers lol10:22
TroubleWha thappened to the weather wallpaper?10:31
tsimpsonSho_ just mentioned this in #konversation, I thought I'd share: http://vimeo.com/1300958910:33
jussitsimpson: hahahahah10:55
apacheloggerdid he call chrome stupid ^^ :D11:15
* Trouble turns desktop effects off again :-(11:30
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jussichromium still doesnt play videos through the vlc or kaffeine plugins13:09
jussiand I still dont understand why ubuntu installs a pae kernel and kubuntu a standard one...13:10
apacheloggerubuntu also installs -generic13:11
apacheloggerlast I checked only -server shipped with pae enabled13:11
jussiapachelogger: curious. Ive a 10.04 install here that installed pae13:14
apacheloggerall I know is that the kernel should be set by foundations independent of ubuntu and kubuntu, so they should have the very same kernel installed13:15
apacheloggermaybe the ubuntu ubiquity did some stuff to get pae in13:15
Mamarokhi all13:16
apacheloggerhello Mamarok13:16
MamarokI have 2 packages kept back in the kde 4.5 rc1: kde-config-phonon-xine and kde-sc-dev-latest13:16
Mamarokthe first is kept back since beta113:16
apacheloggersudo apt-get install kde-config-phonon-xine13:17
Mamarokapachelogger: that worked, but for the kde-sc-dev-latest I get this error:13:21
Mamarokkde-sc-dev-latest: Depends: pkg-kde-tools (>= 0.9.1) but 0.8.0ubuntu2~lucid1~ppa4 is to be installed13:21
Mamarokseems a big version difference13:21
apacheloggeraiht, that sounds wrongish13:27
apacheloggerlex79: ^ if you could take a look at that13:28
* apachelogger is about to leave for last exam this semester \\o/13:28
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: know how to fix CIA? I don't13:36
* JontheEchidna grumbles @ glib: http://pastebin.com/UGn2Xdxv14:04
* ScottK vaguely recalls someone needing http://incoming.debian.org/qt-assistant-compat_4.6.3-1.dsc14:07
ScottKFor Lucid ...14:07
* ScottK gives apachelogger the "Yes, I felt like writing a novel" award for his debian/changelog entry in kde4libs.14:10
JontheEchidnanovel changelog entries are awesome14:11
JontheEchidnaScottK: looks like konversation's built on everything but sparc now.14:14
ScottKJontheEchidna: OK.  I'll try and take a look this morning.  sparc will fail in any case (and we don't care about sparc even more)14:15
ScottKIt was just done on i386 when I looked last night.14:15
ScottKJontheEchidna: Did you look at -workspace yet?14:16
JontheEchidnaScottK: yup, uploaded14:16
ScottKRiddell: qmf is in New if you have a free moment.14:23
ScottKJontheEchidna: I don't see this new package documented any debian/changelog?14:27
JontheEchidnaScottK: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+changelog14:27
ScottKJontheEchidna: I was talking about konversation.14:28
ScottKDid Debian do this split also?14:28
JontheEchidnaScottK: yes, it was picked up as part of the merge14:28
ScottKOK.  So their bad on the lack of documentation.14:28
ScottKJontheEchidna: Accepted.14:29
JontheEchidnaScottK: they documented it in the entry for 1.3~beta1-214:29
JontheEchidnaScottK: thanks14:29
ScottKOK.  I guess I didn't look back far enough.14:29
shadeslayerapachelogger: well... what do we want to improve is the question :)14:55
apacheloggerlast exam done \o/15:10
apacheloggerI am now a fulltime slave of ubuntuone \o/15:11
apacheloggerScottK: better too much documentation than too little, right? ;)15:11
apacheloggershadeslayer: quality of packages for example :P15:11
apacheloggeror maybe we could make the process faster?15:11
ScottKapachelogger: Certainly.15:25
apacheloggeroh dear15:28
* apachelogger got invited to a party and hadn't slept very well these couple of days -.-15:29
* apachelogger needs to buy some additional youth, his is already used up ^^15:29
ScottKapachelogger: coffee works as a reasonable substitute.15:33
apacheloggernot for me :/15:35
ScottKProbably not dosing sufficiently then.15:35
apacheloggerwell, I need to go to the train station soonish anyway, supposedly I could get a liter of coffee there ;)15:39
ScottKAs long as there are proper facilities on the train, yes (not sure what kind of train you are catching)15:47
apacheloggercome to think of it, the trains will most likely burst today, seeing as today ought to be the end of semester for pretty much all students in Graz and Graz is like 75% students...15:50
apacheloggermaybe I should travel business class ^^15:50
txwikingerapachelogger: student class maybe.. but business class?16:01
apacheloggerI am ubuntuone-kde overlord :P16:01
txwikingerapachelogger: I will believe it when I have it working on my system16:02
* txwikinger disabled all ubuntu-one nonsense due to too many issues16:02
apacheloggeryou cannot disable the cloud :P16:02
apacheloggerand the cloud is issued alright16:02
apacheloggerno bookmark sync for ages now16:02
* ScottK finds akonadi-kde-resource-googledata works nicely (although not for bookmarks).16:05
ScottKDouble win with Android sync from Google.16:06
* shadeslayer thinks about what apachelogger means16:07
shadeslayerapachelogger: well... we already have the fastest PPA on earth :p16:08
shadeslayerso no point of poking the build process...16:08
* shadeslayer finds RC1 sluggish 16:09
* ScottK recommends not thinking too hard about what apachelogger says, it can be confusing.16:09
ScottKshadeslayer: Better than the beta was, IME.16:09
* txwikinger agrees with ScottK16:10
apacheloggershadeslayer: wrong attitude16:10
shadeslayerScottK: seriously... my qipmsg package for example.. and then the mail on kubuntu devel to which apachelogger replied too...16:10
shadeslayerapachelogger: 0_o16:10
apacheloggerone can always improve16:10
shadeslayerapachelogger: :P16:10
shadeslayerapachelogger: get canonical to improve the hardware? :D16:10
apacheloggerright now I see that we there were at least 2 file conflicts emerging in the published PPA packages16:11
apacheloggerthat should be 016:11
shadeslayerapachelogger: i think we need more of user feedback on this,they are the ultimate consumers of KDE 16:11
apacheloggerso how to do that?16:11
shadeslayerlike what goes wrong during their upgrade and stuff16:11
shadeslayerapachelogger: something during dev week?16:12
shadeslayerlike we have a session in which the community asks us questions16:12
apacheloggeryou want something persistent and that needs a plan first ;)16:12
apacheloggerwe had kubuntu-testers at some point16:12
shadeslayerapachelogger: we make a new channel #kubuntu-feedback16:12
apacheloggerthough I did not see much testing coming out of it16:12
shadeslayerapachelogger: i joined and tested :P16:13
apacheloggershadeslayer: you want it long term16:13
apacheloggerwe do not need feedback once every 6 months16:13
apacheloggerwe need feedback for each KDE release16:13
apacheloggeron every version we deploy on16:13
shadeslayerapachelogger: yes,i mean we get feedback for every KDE release there16:13
apacheloggerBEFORE we push the packages public16:13
shadeslayerspecifically for KDE releases16:13
shadeslayerapachelogger: oh.. 16:13
* txwikinger wants more unit testing16:13
apacheloggerif we publish crap then all the feedback of the world will not help16:14
shadeslayerapachelogger: recommending staging PPA would be a bad idea...16:14
apacheloggerhow to prevent self-appointed gurus of recommending it to noobs?16:14
* shadeslayer finds the copy dialog crappy in 4.516:14
apacheloggerI know of people who added our PPAs to the Kubuntu setup of thei dear ones16:14
shadeslayerScottK: LongPointyKDEStickofDoom16:15
ScottKHobbsee could destroy them all ...16:15
shadeslayerhehe :P16:15
shadeslayeroh whee... first plasma crash on 4.516:16
* shadeslayer feels like going back to beta16:17
shadeslayerseems like ive gone back to Win XP on my P316:18
txwikingerso slow?16:18
shadeslayerdolphin hangs,cant copy 3x1.4GB files onto a external HD at once.. crashes16:19
shadeslayerwell.. i have some kde* updates coming through16:19
txwikingerwhy are there so many regressions after beta?16:19
txwikingerthat should not happen16:19
* txwikinger thinks unit testing could help a lot to prevent regressions16:20
shadeslayerand now the write speed is down to 300 KBps -.-16:20
* ScottK suspects the kernel, not KDE.16:20
shadeslayerapachelogger: ScottK Riddell rekonq 0.5 release on Monday16:25
mfraz74when reporting a bug, how can i tell if it is a packaging bug or an upstream bug?16:27
shadeslayermfraz74: uh.. whats the problem?16:27
shadeslayerif a app crashes and a kdebugdialog comes up,kde bug.. if upgrades dont go smoothly packaging bug ( in general )16:28
shadeslayerbut it really depends on the problem16:28
mfraz74shadeslayer: nothing now, just something I read on one of the kubuntu announcements saying that use launchpad for packaging bugs and bugs.kde.org for upstream bugs16:28
shadeslayermfraz74: well in general the above statement should suffice... correct me if im wrong :P16:29
shadeslayerapachelogger: oh oh question... why doesnt the device notifier plasmoid power down external USB devices?16:30
mfraz74it's good to see some my reported bugs geting fixed :)16:30
shadeslayerlike external HD's ... eject in nautilus powers them down16:30
* claydoh points out that there is pretty near instant feedback for each pre-release in kubuntuforums.....16:30
shadeslayerso it *is* possible .. but not implemented in KDE16:31
* shadeslayer has never used forums16:31
claydohbut you just have to read them :)16:31
mfraz74i prefer mailinglists to forums16:31
claydohmost people do not use irc16:31
claydohthe kubuntu users list is tiny and not much for testing16:32
claydohthey expect perfection +116:32
mfraz74claydoh: that's true, but for testing i use irc which is more real time16:32
claydohyeah, but for user feedback as was mentioned above16:33
claydohit is one resource16:33
shadeslayermfraz74: ++16:33
claydohand that is why kubuntu has 3+ separate communities, more or less, no one want to go outside their boxes sometimes :(16:34
shadeslayerimo revive kubuntu testers + forums + IRC16:35
* claydoh sees no real way to connect the parts, outside of getting just a few to 'cross over' some times (kudos apachelogger in kubuntuforums!)16:36
mfraz74i suppose there are fewer IRC users these days16:37
shadeslayerclaydoh: did you correct the release page?16:37
claydohshadeslayer: yes, I did16:37
claydohthank you! :)16:37
mfraz74what is the URL of the kubuntu maverick alpha 2 page?16:38
shadeslayerScottK: JontheEchidna btw who was going to upload desktopcouch?16:38
ScottKNot /me16:39
shadeslayerwell its JontheEchidna then :P16:39
claydohmfraz74: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MaverickMeerkat/Alpha2/Kubuntu16:39
JontheEchidnaDid the desktopcouch maintainers approve?16:39
mfraz74claydoh: thx, couldn't find any sign of a link to that page anywhere16:39
shadeslayeruh.. didnt ask :(16:40
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: will do16:40
claydohvery sparse, sorry. Ubuntu don't seem to be using their usual wiki pages for their release  notes16:40
* shadeslayer was busy with #hackers-india meet :P16:40
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: please get one of them to sponsor, or subscribe ubuntu-sponsors16:40
JontheEchidnaI would not feel comfortable sponsoring desktopcouch16:40
shadeslayerah ok16:40
claydohso I kept to the standard locations for our notes16:41
mfraz74claydoh: is it ok for me to edit that wiki page? there are a few mentions of lucid16:42
claydohof course you can16:42
shadeslayerclaydoh: theres just one :P16:42
shadeslayeruh.. mfraz74^^16:43
mfraz74shadeslayer: ok i exaggerated a bit!16:43
JontheEchidnanice, we got an ARM FTBFS fix on a Qt package from an @canonical address: bug 60082016:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 600820 in ugene (Ubuntu) "ftbfs on arm; casting error for doube vs qreal" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60082016:44
shadeslayer#chromiumfail on maverick16:45
claydohmfraz74: odd as I did the text mostly from scratch16:45
shadeslayerclaydoh: :P16:45
claydohlol except for that one section16:45
mfraz74claydoh: lol16:46
shadeslayerclaydoh: and the one at the bottom :P16:46
claydohthen of course rekonk crashed 9not a reason though)16:46
claydohno, I misstyped that one16:46
claydohthough it is the same text that has been used before I think16:47
shadeslayerbtw have you guys seen our stickerzz ?16:52
mfraz74shadeslayer: i can still see spaces for more stickers16:56
shadeslayermfraz74: my laptop has loads of space.. no stickers so far :P16:56
* shadeslayer didnt get his laptop along16:56
ScottKI'm glad I bought the Dell with the Ubuntu preinstall.  The system won't boot to the CD drive.  Their recommended solution was reflash the BIOS.  I asked how when I couldn't boot the CD for that.  They said, "No problem, you can download it and run it from your machine."  The download was (predictably) a Windows executable.  They are now "exploring options."16:57
claydohmy laptop is soo naked, I just have 2 stickers16:57
ScottKSince I bought it from them without Windows, they are sort of stuck figuring it out.16:57
shadeslayerScottK: dont you know16:57
shadeslayerScottK: there was a project about flashing bios from ubuntu16:57
* shadeslayer has mail about this16:57
mfraz74claydoh: i just have the one sticker on the back. Are there going to be some new kubuntu stickers out soon?16:58
ScottKshadeslayer: It's Dell's problem to figure it out.  16:58
shadeslayerScottK: well.. i can help you if you want :D16:58
claydohmfraz74: I only hope, tho I do like my 'classic' kubuntu stickers16:58
shadeslayerScottK: http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/Repository/firmware16:58
ScottKshadeslayer: Thanks16:58
shadeslayerScottK: np16:59
mfraz74claydoh: i do like them too, could do with a new kubuntu t-shirt to go with my new ubuntu one16:59
claydohso could I , but they dond't make them big enough for me :(17:00
mfraz74is xxl too small?17:01
claydohyes, actually17:01
jjessetoo large :)17:01
claydohI am not slimming down fast enough17:01
claydohxxxl or even xxxxl 17:02
jjessehow bout medium :)17:02
mfraz74how about just selling sew on patches?17:03
claydohjjesse: i refuse to do the 'muffin top' thing :P17:03
ScottKshadeslayer: That one says community support only, so I'm not going to try it (don't want to void the warranty).17:03
ScottKthanks though17:03
jjesseclaydoh hahaha17:04
jjessei bet i am one of the few that could fit into a medium sized shirt in this channel17:04
claydoheven if I go to Walmart, I won't17:04
claydohI am legitimately fat, though. I don't think many here are17:05
mfraz74had trouble updating the bios on my tosh nb10017:05
mfraz74if you did any updates, the upgrader wouldn't work17:05
claydohi made an iso of the bios update floppy for my old Compaq, and used grub to boot from the iso17:06
shadeslayerScottK: well.. :P17:18
shadeslayerScottK: you just want to see Dell in pain17:19
ScottKNo.  I want them to fix my system.17:19
shadeslayerhehe :D17:20
shadeslayerScottK: ill probably never buy dell again tho17:20
shadeslayerAsus maybe17:21
shadeslayerScottK: btw did you get a 3 years warranty?17:21
shadeslayerScottK: good :)17:23
ScottKThey are going to send me a new machine.17:23
* shadeslayer only had a 1 year warranty 17:24
ScottKIME Dell laptops aren't the best in the world, but they're support is top notch.17:24
ScottKAlso I appreciate they invest in Ubuntu.17:24
shadeslayerScottK: yeah,my hardware went bad after 2 months of warranty expiratation17:24
shadeslayerMobo blew a chip 17:26
shadeslayerand they told me that the Mobo was of 10k INR,and warranty would cost 10k + cost of warranty :P17:26
ScottKAlways get the 3 year warranty on a laptop17:29
ScottKThey are going to replace the system ...17:30
shadeslayerScottK: my system was $$$$ already17:31
shadeslayer68k INR17:31
shadeslayer( Dell XPS M1530 )17:31
shadeslayerScottK: got it fixed locally :P17:31
shadeslayerfor 4k INR 17:32
DarthFrogINR = rupees?17:34
DarthFrog$85.5 USD17:35
shadeslayerprobably 17:35
shadeslayeranyone read 17:42
mfraz74read about that earlier17:43
DarthFrogInteresting.  It's a math error, not physics. :-)17:44
shadeslayerDarthFrog: its a stupid announcement17:44
shadeslayerDarthFrog: if people were getting dropped calls,its because of faulty antenna design .. not a maths error17:45
DarthFrogI eagerly await the consumer response.  :-)17:45
shadeslayeraccording to the announcement,if i have no bars,i should  be able to make a call :P17:45
DarthFrogNo, other way around.  The bars are supposedly over-representing signal strength.17:46
shadeslayerwait.. that came out wrong..17:46
DarthFrogDoesn't matter.  Apple is evil.  Stylish, but evil. :-)17:47
shadeslayerDarthFrog: yeah17:49
* shadeslayer would like a Apple iPad+Kubuntu 17:49
mfraz74i'd settle for being able to have rockbox on a newer iPod or at least for Apple to allow oggs17:55
lex79Mamarok: I've just uploaded the fix for kde-sc-dev-latest18:14
shadeslayerapachelogger: poke18:30
shadeslayer( if your around )18:31
shadeslayerhmm.. seems now18:31
shadeslayerlex79: around?18:31
shadeslayerlex79: kool,i need to split kopete18:31
shadeslayerlex79: and then add a patch that will say " Install additional libraries to enable google chat call support "18:32
shadeslayer( basically call support is bringing in libavcodecs which has legal issues on CD )18:32
Mamaroklex79: thanks I will try18:34
lex79np :)18:34
shadeslayerlex79: look at http://launchpadlibrarian.net/51164916/kdenetwork_4:4.4.90-0ubuntu1_4:4.4.90-0ubuntu2.diff.gz18:34
shadeslayernow the only addition to get support are the additional deps and the modified install files18:35
lex79well, split the package then... :)18:35
lex79I don't know about the patch...18:35
shadeslayerlex79: ill have a look at the other packages which do that kind of notifications 18:36
shadeslayerlex79: so.. what is the new package name? and.. will i have to make a whole new libkopete?18:36
shadeslayeror just a new package with usr/bin/googletalk-call in install files18:37
* shadeslayer thinks new libkopete18:37
lex79seems only a package with usr/bin/googletalk-call18:37
shadeslayerlex79: hmm.. im not entirely sure,i think we will need a new libkopete,since the library needs to be compiled with the gcall support stuff18:38
lex79oh, that is a problem I think :)18:38
shadeslayerlex79: :)18:39
shadeslayerlex79: so,new libkopete,right18:39
lex79nope, usually we don't do this18:39
shadeslayerwhat do we want to do ;)18:39
lex79I think nothing, you can't have the same libraries in two packages18:40
shadeslayerlex79: hmm.. why not? we can add a replaces/conflicts for each of them 18:40
lex79that is because we didn't ever include google talk support18:41
shadeslayerwe did with last upload18:41
shadeslayerthats why Riddell made a new upload18:42
lex79where? I don't see here: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdenetwork/ubuntu/revision/8818:42
shadeslayerlex79: see debian/kopete.install18:44
shadeslayeralso the changelog ( the build deps were added to add gcall support18:45
lex79talk with Riddell is better, I never seen two package with the same libraries but built with different build-deps in a source package18:45
shadeslayerhmm.. 18:45
shadeslayerlex79: well.. im guessing here :P18:45
shadeslayerthat we need to build the library seprately 18:46
lex79maybe you mean in different source package, not in the kdenetwork source package18:47
lex79well talk with Riddell ;)18:47
shadeslayerdont think it should be a different source package18:48
lex79"i think we will need a new libkopete,since the library needs to be compiled with the gcall support stuff" impossible have in the same source package a libkopete built against a set of build-deps and libkopete-googletalk built against a different set build-deps18:52
lex79but I can wrong, I never seen before :)18:52
lex79you have to split the source package18:54
shadeslayerthe only problem is the deps18:59
shadeslayerthe source code has the gcall stuff19:00
shadeslayerthe deps are optional,enable them and you get gcall support19:00
lex79deps or build-depends?19:00
shadeslayerbuild deps :D19:00
shadeslayerlex79: export alias " deps=build-deps "19:01
shadeslayer( in my language :P )19:01
lex79well, deps != build-depends :)19:01
shadeslayerlex79: i know... i just have a habit of calling them that 19:01
lex79so we return to the problem that I wrote there ^19:02
shadeslayerhehe :D19:02
lex79if the problem was only about the depends, you don't need to split the source package19:03
lex79oh but that's sometimes wrong :) see plasma widgets google gadget, we have to split google gadget from -workspace since google-gadget-qt can't go in Main19:06
shadeslayerlex79: so you guys split the source?19:07
shadeslayerlex79: so how do you do that?19:07
lex79chat with JR :)19:09
shadeslayerok :D19:09
shadeslayer!debdiff is A simple way to patch debian packages is to attach a debdiff to a bug report,or send it to the team which handles the package,lear more about it here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Howtos/Debdiff19:10
shadeslayer!debdiff is A simple way to patch debian/ubuntu packages is to attach a debdiff to a bug report,or send it to the team which handles the package,lear more about it here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Howtos/Debdiff19:10
macoshadeslayer:  i think that should be learn, not lear19:11
shadeslayeryeah 19:11
shadeslayercorrected in PM19:11
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ulysseshm, anyone noticed, that copying an URL cause to appear a dialog twice or three times?20:09
CIA-99[muon] jmthomas * 1145393 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs) Detect whether a potential change will break the package. In the future, I'll extend this to show why the break happens, and once LibQApt has undo/redo going for it, I will auto-undo breaking potential changes20:10
JontheEchidna^yeah, so currently muon will eat puppies if you for example mark libgtk2.0-bin for removal and unmark software-center for removal and proceed. All it'll do is say that it will break in the konsole output :P20:11
JontheEchidnaNothing new, but...20:11
JontheEchidnause at your own risk :)20:12
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: s/puppies/kittens20:12
shadeslayeror maybe the Amarok devs ate all the kittens20:12
JontheEchidnaAt the very least, if you try to unmark an "essential" package in muon, you'll get a confirmation dialog, but otherwise all gaurantees for safety are off20:13
shadeslayerlex79: you didnt look at qtcreator :(20:13
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: btw ubuntu-dev says that desktopcouch needs to be uploaded to maverick first20:15
shadeslayerso need to post a debdiff for that first20:15
oxymoronHow do I fix this: http://pastebin.com/Gt5hQFkk20:25
txwikingeroxymoron: missing library?20:41
oxymorontxwikinger: What library? :P20:42
txwikingersomething with github20:43
Riddellkdepim 4.5 needing packaging20:52
Riddellkoffice too20:58
lex79Riddell: why you added debian/include with private headers in qtcreator? didn't want build? 21:04
Riddelllex79: qtcreator uses headers which are private to Qt and shouldn't be generally installed21:05
Riddellupstream ship it with its own Qt build for binary and with its own copy of Qt sources for source21:05
lex79ok thanks21:05
neversfeldetoo hot to sleep21:16
neversfeldeRiddell: I can do koffice21:16
Riddelllovely, thanks neversfelde 21:18
shadeslayerRiddell: :o21:21
shadeslayerRiddell: ill do kdepim21:21
shadeslayerbut! you will have to help with kopete :)21:21
* shadeslayer doesnt know where kdepim is 21:24
shadeslayerRiddell: ^^21:24
shadeslayerah nvm21:25
* shadeslayer is doing kdepim 21:25
Riddellshadeslayer: I think for kdepim put the packaging in bzr and the packages in experimental PPA21:39
shadeslayerRiddell: ok..21:40
shadeslayerRiddell: pdebuild is online and using up my connection :P21:40
Riddellwhat's that?21:41
neversfelde29 degrees celsius at 23 pm, that's really not cold21:41
jussiright, Ive got a grumble with  notifications... where is the cake man?21:42
shadeslayerRiddell: pdebuild! debuild in pbuilder :P21:42
shadeslayerRiddell: hows akademy ?21:43
mime11hello there, well i was going to /etc/pulse/daemon text file for enabling my 5.1 audio, for changing the 2 channels by the 6, but the files doesnt exist, what i am suposed to do :( i ise kubuntu 10.04 lts, thanx all21:44
shadeslayermime11: support in #kubuntu21:44
jussiif you get a message with kopete, then a second soon after, it comes up with the first message and the writing +1 more message. that is entirely useless - the popup needs to tell me the message so I can decide to click on it or not. NOT truncate it.21:44
jussiRiddell: have a good trip?21:44
mime11oops sorry21:45
mime11cya thnx21:45
shadeslayerRiddell: ive named the tarball with version 4.4.9021:46
shadeslayeror should it be 85? ( its beta 121:46
Riddelljussi: just photo blogged, including the by request of Tm_T photo http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/426621:50
Riddellshadeslayer: we don't know yet, upstream used the wrong tar name and dirk asked him to rename but he hasn't done so yet21:51
shadeslayerRiddell: well.. ok,ill just keep 4.490 for now,and upload when they correct it21:51
shadeslayerRiddell: i hear they have orange KDE T Shirts there :D21:52
Tm_TRiddell: oo so many familiar faces there... I will never forgive myself for not being there ):21:52
jussiRiddell: awesome, just awesome21:52
Riddellshadeslayer: go with 4.4.85, we can always up it but it's harder to lower it21:52
RiddellTm_T: busy all week?21:53
shadeslayerRiddell: i wont upload till they release a number tho :D21:53
Riddellshadeslayer: t-shirts are blue (orange is staff only), and cost 12 euro21:53
Tm_TRiddell: been in flu and really heavy cough for over a week now, still continuing21:53
Mamaroklex79: the pacakge still doesn't install21:53
shadeslayerRiddell: i know the cost.. but nsm says that the blue ones are not good :P21:53
jussiTm_T: have you looked at the last pic?21:54
Tm_Tye, lovely21:54
Tm_Tonly half hug-a-finn points earned though!21:54
Riddellwhy?  that was a full on hug!21:55
jussiIm only half a finn...21:55
Tm_Tbut I don't see jussi as traditional finnish in that sense, he's too huggable!21:55
* Tm_T huggles jussi 21:55
jussiIm a big bear :P21:56
shadeslayerRiddell: im getting 404 on main archive packages:P21:56
Riddellsudo apt-get update  usually helps22:02
shadeslayerRiddell: also... apturl support for rekonq should be in git after rekonq 0.5 .. if adjam approves my patches :P22:06
shadeslayerRiddell: http://pastebin.com/sskadgH122:08
shadeslayerstill fails22:08
shadeslayerdpkg-source: info: using source format `1.0' << in kdepim from bzr packaging 0_022:21
shadeslayerok .. wrong folder :P22:23
shadeslayerlex79: poke22:40
shadeslayerapachelogger: btw where is that apturl-kde desktop file located?22:47
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lex79Mamarok: the package still need build https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/beta/+build/185077923:47
lex79it starts in 19 hours23:48
Mamarokah, OK, I will wait then :)23:50
lex79maybe NCommander ^ can raise the score a bit :)23:52

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