[00:00] <picharras> hola, alguien que hable español?
[00:01] <ToxinPowe> picharras: #kubuntu-es
[00:01] <picharras> sip, conosco ese, pero por aquí nadie?
[00:01] <ToxinPowe> por aquí algunos :P
[00:42] <ytoox> what software do I need to create image transitions?
[00:43] <Guest85018> how do i make it so i can see files on my desktop without having to use dolphin
[00:44] <ytoox> Khaotic: you need to right click and add widget called folder view
[00:44] <Khaotic> for some reason i can add widgets
[00:44] <Khaotic> why not
[00:47] <Khaotic> ytoox
[00:47] <ytoox> what happens when you right click? are you on kde 4?
[00:47] <Khaotic> yuh
[00:47] <ytoox> do you have the plasma button at the top right
[00:47] <ytoox> ?
[00:47] <Khaotic> yes
[00:47] <ytoox> click it
[00:48] <ytoox> and choose that one widget
[00:48] <Khaotic> i am
[00:48] <Khaotic> it wont bring up the panel thing for widgets to add
[00:48] <ytoox> maybe your desktop widgets are locked, if you right click on the desktop and choose unlock widgets
[00:48] <ytoox> and then try opening the plasma menu
[00:49] <Khaotic> they are unlocked...
[00:49] <Khaotic> i can click on the widgets menu, but it wont bring up the panel of widgets to add
[00:49] <ytoox> then I don't know what the problem is, soory'
[00:50] <snoober> Hey all...question. I was a total ree-ree this morning and changed my password. I try to login tonight and I'm completely blanking on what I changed it to. I saw some tutorials online but I don't see grub when I boot...
[00:50] <snoober> thoughts?
[00:50] <ytoox> press esc when the machine is booting up
[00:50] <snoober> I did
[00:50] <ytoox> mmm
[00:50] <snoober> nothing
[00:51] <ytoox> are you able to enter with a different account?
[00:51] <snoober> I don't see a grub menu at all
[00:51] <snoober> I only have 1 to my knowlege other than root
[00:51] <ytoox> well, if you enter as root and know the password then you can change it right?
[00:52] <snoober> I never set a password for root
[00:52] <snoober> is there a default password? Sorry...I'm a newbie
[00:53] <ytoox> if you are in kubuntu then it is the same as the one you use for your usual user
[00:53] <snoober> which I changed to something I didn't remember
[00:53] <ytoox> if you login and then press alt+F2 you can do sudo and then pass on commands to change the password
[00:54] <snoober> if I could login though right?
[00:54] <ytoox> no, you don't have to login
[00:54] <snoober> oh
[00:55] <ytoox> I suppose the startup takes you to the graphical login window right?
[00:55] <snoober> correct
[00:55] <ytoox> when you are there press alt f2
[00:55] <ytoox> and you will see a terminal like window where you can work out some commands
[00:56] <ytoox> sorry I meant to say control alt f2
[00:56] <snoober> sorry, no luck
[00:56] <snoober> I pressed alt+f2
[00:56] <snoober> nothing popped up
[00:57] <snoober> oh control
[00:57] <snoober> nope
[00:57] <snoober> that didn't work either
[00:57] <ytoox> control alt f2 didn't work?
[01:38] <xrandrmac> i'm using 10.04 and i just ran a software update
[01:38] <xrandrmac> now, kde wont start
[01:38] <xrandrmac> and what's better is, without KDE i cannot connect to the internet on that box
[01:38] <xrandrmac> so i guess first off, is there a TEXT based wifi config tool i can run to connect to the net, run aptitude and see if there are additional packages i need to get?
[01:38] <Typos_King> hehe
[01:38] <Typos_King> I read somewhere they no longer include aptitude, but who knows, by default install that is :)
[01:38] <Typos_King> xrandrmac: http://blog.tplus1.com/index.php/2008/06/13/how-to-connect-to-a-wireless-network-from-the-ubuntu-command-line/
[01:38] <superadmin> hola
[01:54] <nickee> How set the taskbar tabs to only show the tabs for on the current desktop?  Ex, for Firefox, with windows on other desktops, only show the FF windows on this desktop, in the taskbar/panel at the bottom of the screen?
[01:56] <judgen> i am an deponant of pulseaudio, what does kde us nowdays as the excellent aRTS system is no longer in use.. i still find myself installing kmix in kubuntu.
[01:57]  * xrandrmac might just go with CentOS. i dislike having problems :)
[01:58] <macintux_> nickee: Its very simple right click on taskbar panel choose settings
[01:58] <macintux_> nickee: Its on general tab under filters
[01:59] <James147> nickee: note you need to right click on an empty part of the task amnager widget (you will need to close some windows if it is full)
[01:59] <nickee> macintux_: i don't see that :(
[01:59] <macintux_> nickee: You have to right click on empty space of course. Thanks James147
[01:59] <James147> nickee: its under "Task Manager Settings" if you right click on the task manager (not just the panel)
[02:00] <macintux_> Alt+D, S
[02:00] <nickee> there is no empty space on any of my 10 desktops - they all have exactly the same items on the taskbar :(
[02:01] <James147> nickee: you will need to close some applications to change the settings
[02:01] <macintux_> nickee: Your taskbar. Empty space on the taskbar. you dont need to switch desktops to do it
[02:01] <macintux_> nickee: I'll get you a screenshot, hold on.
[02:02] <nickee> every time I close a task, all the others expand their tab size, taking up all space.
[02:03] <nickee> ok, now I've got some free space, but,
[02:04] <macintux_> nickee: http://i.imgur.com/LgSji.png
[02:04] <nickee> wow, fixed, i think
[02:04] <judgen> hehe i could not even stay away from kwin (the best manager ever made so far, except the app_server, tracker,deskbar combination wich is awsome. Even for people that have only used win7 and compiz
[02:08] <newboon2age_> xrandrmac: are you running kubuntu?
[02:08] <nickee> Ok, this is wierd, & very poor operation/design:  Only when there is totally clear space on the taskbar/panel does the "General" option show up (with the filters options showing).  I'd been clicking on the tb/panel below the "show desktop" icon, & that brought up the "task manager settings" window, but minus the "general" tab.  -  Is that a bug??  Seems awful.
[02:08] <newboon2age_> xrandrmac: oh, sorry yes this is the #kubuntu channel (got disoriented)
[02:08] <xrandrmac> newboon2age_: yeah, i just did a software update, and it broke KDE
[02:08] <judgen> not at the moment, but i have installed "kubuntu-dekstop" package
[02:08] <xrandrmac> ksmserver is having issues
[02:08] <newboon2age_> xrandrmac: reason i ask is i had some issues w/ networkmanager and got the solution which is CL... would that help?
[02:08] <judgen> xrandrmac, details?
[02:23] <James147> nickee: looks like its being worked on... the isue is when you click on application icons that cause their menus to appear... in kde 4.5 it seems that task manager settings have been added to that menu, but not the panel options
[02:23] <xrandrmac> James147: i did a mv -f .kde kdesave/   then restarted kdm, tried to login, and it's still very unhappy with me. I created a testuser acct and it's happier than a horta in a rock quarry
[02:23] <James147> xrandrmac: check your ~/ for files that might be owned by root
[02:23] <nickee> James147: thanks :)
[02:24] <James147> xrandrmac: (or not owned by you)
[02:25] <James147> nickee: The great thing about the task manager (and everything else) being "just a widget" is that you can replace them with other things (like smooth tasks over task manager for a more win7 like taskbar... or lancealot as the application launcher)
[02:25] <xrandrmac> James147: would backing up my files, removing MY user account and recreating it solve the issue?
[02:26] <James147> xrandrmac: chown USER:USER ~/.*   might also work
[02:26] <xrandrmac> James147: should i use chown -R or just chown?
[02:26] <James147> xrandrmac: ls -la ~/ | grep root   just to see if there are any files owned by root would be a quick check though and safer
[02:27] <xrandrmac> James147: did that, and no returns
[02:27] <nickee> Help please:   Kate File>OpenRecent  fails to show the document I just saved then closed window on.  Is this a known bug?
[02:28] <James147> xrandrmac: :Sif a new user worked then I would think recreating your home directory would also work (but I suggest backing it up then deleting the files one by one untill you find the problem if you want to keep some settings)
[02:28] <xrandrmac> ok
[02:29] <James147> xrandrmac: I would try .Xauthority first :) have had problems with that one in the past
[02:29] <James147> xrandrmac: then anything you think you wont miss :)
[02:30] <xrandrmac> remove .Xauthority?
[02:31] <James147> xrandrmac: thats what I would try first
[02:32] <xrandrmac> removing the home directory worked
[02:33] <nickee> Help please:   Kate File>OpenRecent  fails to show the document I just saved then closed window on.  Is this a known bug?
[02:33] <xrandrmac> now lets see if i can replace my .kde to get my settings back
[02:34] <James147> nickee: just once, or every time?
[02:34] <nickee> James147: pretty sure always.
[02:35] <James147> nickee: noticing that it clears my recient documents on close here :S so its always empty on start
[02:38] <nickee> James147: the list of recent documents is about 10 items, all fairly old, & it doesn't show a test document I just made, saved & closed.
[02:38] <James147> nickee: can you clear the list and see if you cna get anything new on it?
[02:38] <nickee> James147: I never close Kate.  It is always running.  I have many documents open in it (25).  When I shutdown & restart , it comes up with all my documents from before I shutdown.
[02:39] <nickee> James147: how does one "clear the list"?
[02:40] <James147> nickee: the recent document list? it should be File>recent documents>clear list
[02:41] <James147> nickee: if you dont want it to load any documents on start up go to Settings > configure kate > (Application) Sessions > check "Start new session"
[02:42] <nickee> James147:  File >  there is no ">recent documents>clear list"
[02:42] <James147> nickee: "open recent"?
[02:42] <nickee> James147:  Thx, no , I _do_ want it to reload the documents from the last session. :)
[02:44] <nickee> James147: File > Open, OpenRecent, OpenWith.  those are the only 3 "open" options there.
[02:44] <xrandrmac> James147: thanks :)
[02:45] <James147> nickee: file > open recent > clear list    should clear the recent documents
[02:45] <James147> nickee: then see if you cna get anything to stick after you close and reopen kate (I cannot for some reason)
[02:46] <synth> Can someone give me a hand with wireless on kubuntu 10.04?  I used the system tray network icon to configure my wireless. it worked.. I rebooted and it no longer wants to connect.  the 'profile' is still there with all its settings but it wont connect
[02:46] <nickee> James147: Ok, I see it.  1) I cleared the list, & now the list is empty. 2) I created a test doc, saved it, closed its window.  3) Recent documents is still empty :(   Suggestions?
[02:46] <synth> the driver works, iwconfig shows the interface and says its unassociated.
[02:47] <synth> I cant get that 'system tray' app to reconnect though despite its attempts.. even if I remove the entry and re-make it anew it still won't..
[02:47] <nickee> James147: Ok, I see it.  1) I cleared the list, & now the list is empty. 2) I created a test doc, saved it, closed its window.  3) Recent documents is still empty :(   Suggestions?
[02:47] <synth> all the documentation I can find is unspecific and helped with this issue..
[02:48] <synth> *wont help
[02:48] <James147> nickee: my guess is a bug... I would file a bug report, not sure what else to do sorry (looks like it worked in the past but not any longer)
[02:49] <James147> synth: you can try the gnome network manager, knetwork manager is still abit flaky at times :S (intall: network-manager-gnome  run: nm-applet)
[02:50] <synth> James147: ooh I will try that thanks much
[02:50] <synth> I dont mind if its gnome I wont be using it often
[02:50] <nickee> James147: thx. aare you a developer?  Are yo able to file a bug report on this?  I'm thinking you are fast & could file it in 1 minute, where it would take me 30 mintes to learn howto & file the bug.   If you could file the bug, since you are more familiar with the issues, you'd also know more about how to specify the bug properly.
[02:50] <nickee> James147: would you mind filing this bug?  Please?  Please let me know. Thanks :)
[02:51] <James147> synth: (kill knetworkmanager before starting nm-applet)  if that doesnt work alot of people found wicd to work better then Network-Manager (but that will want to remove network-manager when you install it)
[02:51] <James147> nickee: I am not :) so would probally take me jsut as long (there is a bug report option in the help menu of kde apps... try that :) )
[02:53] <synth> nm-applet is in network-manager-gnome?
[02:53] <synth> trying to find it with apt-file now
[02:53] <James147> synth: yes
[02:53] <synth> ok cool.. instaling now
[02:54] <James147> nickee: looks like it has already been reported
[02:55] <James147> nickee: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=228027
[02:56] <James147> nickee: or rather https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=182759
[03:08] <synth> damn no luck with network-manager-gnome either.. its weird it just wont finish connecting when it starts.. even if i delete & re-add the entry as if it were new.  it worked the first time.
[03:09] <amason> synth: is there anything in dmes
[03:09] <amason> dmesg rather
[03:09] <amason> worth just checking the driver isn't complaining about something or other
[03:09] <synth> just some NETDEV_UP & NETDEV_CHANGE ioctl msgs talk about link not ready/link becomes ready
[03:09] <amason> k
[03:09] <synth> iwconfig & ifconfig show the interface but for some reason it doesnt get its IP
[03:10] <synth> i tried dhclient against the iface, didnt help
[03:11] <amason> so does it keep prompting for password or what does it do when it fails ?
[03:11] <synth> it doesnt prompt for a password, just looks like its setting up and never gets further
[03:11] <synth> w/kde network manager it went on and on.. w/gnome it seems to time out after 60 seconds
[03:12] <synth> no error nothing
[03:12] <amason> out of curiosity try rmmod your wireless driver
[03:12] <amason> and then modprobe it
[03:13] <amason> what model wireless card do you have ?
[03:21] <synth> heh, none of the network managers are working for me.. can anyone point me to instructions on how to setup wireless with etc/network/interfaces & iwconfig ?
[03:30] <synth> where in the world do all these network managers store their configurations?
[03:30] <synth> now that I go back to the gnome applet, all the values for my wireless are greyed out
[03:57] <Ashex> There any problems with adding additional collections to digikam?
[03:58] <Ashex> I'm trying to add a folder that's mounted via sshfs. Get the message "The selected folder does not exist or is not readable"
[04:00] <Khaotic> how do i get skype?
[04:27] <avihay> Khaotic: you can download it from they're site
[04:33] <adryan> ciao!!
[04:33] <adryan> !list
[05:07] <gaurav__> hello everyone
[05:08] <amason> hi gaurav__
[05:08] <gaurav__> hi amason
[05:17] <[CM]> I seriously dont think 10.04 is ready myself........ I just got done downgrading back to 8.04
[05:17] <[CM]> for the reason that
[05:17] <[CM]> if your using a gtk app like chrome
[05:17] <[CM]> and pidgin looses all sound till chrome is closed
[05:21] <amason> [CM]: ready for what ?
[05:23] <[CM]> prime time amason
[05:23] <[CM]> because of the audio issues
[05:23] <[CM]> thats why I downgraded back to 8.04
[05:23] <[CM]> with kde 3.5.10
[05:23] <amason> *shrug* works ok for me
[05:23] <[CM]> it didnt for me... one was muted while the other played
[05:23] <amason> at least with 8.04 your still supported though
[05:23] <[CM]> and vice versa
[05:23] <[CM]> yeah
[05:24] <amason> k
[05:30] <amason> [CM]: have you considered filing a bug against your problem. On consideration , since both of those are GTK applications and i think by default Kubuntu doesn't use pulseaudio as the phonon backend, that it could just be a case of the maintainers setting pulseaudio as the default backend
[05:30] <amason> because the problem your describing is pretty much pulseaudio is meant to combat
[05:30] <[CM]> oh
[05:30] <[CM]> I never did file anything,
[05:30] <[CM]> :\
[05:30] <amason> my guess is that two kde apps wouldn't have an issue
[05:31] <amason> or if you were using Ubuntu (ie gnome ) then that would use pulseaudio and that probably would work
[05:31] <amason> i don't know that for sure though
[05:31] <amason> but things can't improve if people don't let the maintainers know when something isn't working
[05:31] <[CM]> true
[05:54] <TravisFW> is there something new about mounting drives in kubuntu 10.4? just plugging it in doesn't bring up the notification to mount like it used to
[06:01] <Khaotic> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzza-ZbEY70&feature=popular&has_verified=1
[06:25] <newboon2age_> just for everyone's info here's how i was able to get UbuntuOne working on Kubuntu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9535765#post9535765
[06:44] <scarodj> Hi. I'm very used to look for this kind of info by googling and on the forums and I'm almost sure I won't find an answer, so, I'll ask away. Kpakage kit has a while stuck saying it's wayting for the service to start. Is this normal? Should I really wait for the service to start or should I kill the process and start again? Will this bring problems with the downloaded or half installed packages? Pleas and thanks :D Peace.
[08:04] <nigo> kde
[08:04] <nigo> hello
[08:05] <nigo> i've got a problem that why kde in kubuntu is slower than in backtrack3?
[08:05] <nigo> is it because the version of KDE in different?
[08:11] <hateball> nigo: depends on which version of Kubuntu you have
[08:13] <nigo> i install bt3 and kubuntu10.04 in my notbook(cpu P4 1.6HZ),but the kubuntu10.04 is much faster than kubuntu
[08:13] <nigo> thank you hateball
[08:27] <corinth> What's the easiest way to install KDE 3.5.X in Ubuntu 10.04?
[08:31] <mase_wk> corinth: use another distro :)
[08:32] <mase_wk> corinth: actually...i remember there being pakcages / ppa's for karmic. maybe they have been made available for lucid. you will need to google for it though
[08:32] <moetunes> there is a ppa for 3.5 iirc
[08:32] <mase_wk> however there are some debian based distros that are specifically there for kde 3 users
[08:35] <corinth> mase_wk, Been looking on Google. I know of the Trinity/KDE3 project...but its servers recently got hit by a major power surge. They won't be back up for a while, blech.
[08:37] <mase_wk> k. yeh i don't use kde3 so i'm not really that familiar with the options.
[08:37] <mase_wk> i know there are some distros out there with the specific goal of being good at kde3
[08:58] <Mehrab> Hi. when I try to install a package from repositories, kubuntu gradually eats up all free disk space of root/home directory and I have to reboot to recover that free space, what is wrong with it?
[08:59] <mase_wk> Mehrab: your just doing apt-get install somethingorother ?
[09:00] <nickee> What's the package that with some Tab key combination, like Alt-Tab, not only shows you the _names_ of the windows it can switch to, but shows an _image_ of that window?  Compiz???
[09:00] <Mehrab> mase_wk: it makes no difference, apt-get or aptitude or through kpackagekit
[09:00] <mase_wk> how much space do you have free  and what are you installing ?
[09:02] <Mehrab> mase_wk: about 9GB, and it would eat that up in about 45 minutes, even if the installation or update take just 2 minutes, it will continue to eat up the rest of disk space
[09:03] <mase_wk> right ok . thats not something i've ever really had an issue with
[09:03] <mase_wk> i really don't know whats going on there
[09:03] <mase_wk> certainly not normal
[09:04] <mase_wk> so its always your root users home directory ?
[09:04] <Mehrab> mase_wk: yes
[09:05] <mase_wk> this a brand new install ?
[09:05] <nickee> What's the package that with some Tab key combination, like Alt-Tab, not only shows you the _names_ of the windows it can switch to, but shows an _image_ of that window?  Compiz???
[09:06] <Mehrab> mase_wk: yes it is, and I just copied the old home folder to the new installation
[09:06] <mase_wk> not really sure sorry
[09:06] <mase_wk> beyond anythign i've ever experienced
[09:19] <Mamarok> nickee: it's the Desktop effects, built into KDE
[09:19] <Mamarok> you can activate it in the system settings -> Desktop
[09:20] <nickee> Mamarok: thx.  I've now found that part of system settings.  The only effect i want is to see the Firefox windows I could switch to, with alt-tab.  Nothing else, to keep things fast.  Do you know what setting that is there?
[09:21] <Mamarok> the Firefox windows? How many do you have? Normally one opens one Fireofx instance and then uses tabs
[09:21] <Mamarok> Firefox*
[09:22] <Mamarok> if you don't want an animated switch, Alt+Tab also switches windows without desktop effects, if those are in the same virtual desktop
[09:22] <nickee> Mamarok: no, i've got manuy (10+) on the desktop, each with many tabs,
[09:22] <Mamarok> well, Alt+Tab works with and without desktop effects
[09:22] <nickee> that's why I want this - so I can see all the ff tabs on each window, in graphical form, as I alt-tab.
[09:23] <Mamarok> you can only see one tab at a time
[09:23] <nickee> Mamarok: do you know which setting it is to turn that on?
[09:23] <nickee> Mamarok: sure, 1 at a time, but what setting turns that on?  I don't want lots of other effects slowing things down.
[09:23] <Mamarok> but if you want to see all open windows at a time you would need Box switch
[09:24] <Mamarok> else it is Cover switch
[09:24] <nickee> Mamarok: what's the keypress for boxswitch?
[09:24] <nickee> & cover sw?
[09:24] <Mamarok> nickee: it's always AltTab, you just have to enable the effect and have the desktop effects active
[09:25] <nickee> Mamarok: thanks :)
[09:25] <Mamarok> there is an icon on the right to each effect to change key shortcuts if you want to though
[09:26] <Mamarok> Box Switch is done by pushing the mouse to the top left screen corner usually
[09:27] <Mamarok> sorry, that's the desktop grid
[10:01] <nfrs> xhi
[10:01] <nfrs> *hi
[10:02] <nfrs> I'm using kubuntu 10.04/KDE 4.4.2/kmix 3.6, and there doesn't appear to be a balance control in KMix. what am I missing?
[10:28] <naftilos76> hi everyone, how do i add parameters to kernel command line? can i do it in grub.cfg? my system is 64bit Kubuntu 10.04. I want to add the parameter "i8042.nopnp". it will probably fix my problem with the mouse/keyboard crashing randomly! please help...
[10:29] <ussher_> I have a webserver that i access through FTP and SSH.  FTP needs the directory ownership set to vsftpd:www-data to be able to write to it, but SSH needs the ownership to be set to username:username.  Should i be thinking "access SSH with the vsftpd user" or "add username to vsftpd ownership group"? to allow both to have write access?
[10:38] <tdn> In my homedir there is a folder called "Updater". What is this folder used for? It is empty? Is it safe to delete it? Why is it created? And by what?
[10:39] <tdn> Same with the Templates folder.
[10:39] <ussher_> tdn: i havent got one, so its probably there as a result of some app you installed.  deleting it wont break your system
[10:40] <tdn> ussher_, you dont have an Updater or Templates folder?
[10:40] <ussher_> sometimes programs make their own folders when they start up.  example, eclipse make the /workspace/ folder
[10:40] <ussher_> tdn:  nope. not in my home folder
[10:41] <tdn> Ok.
[10:42] <ussher_> I had a bunch of folders when i did a fresh install of kubuntu though.  deleted them all and made my own.  any program settings will most likely be stored in a folder starting with a dot so hidden anyhow
[10:42] <tdn> ussher_, yeah. These are present on a fresh install.
[10:42] <ussher_> like ~/.mozilla
[10:42] <tdn> How do I use the Templates folder for example?
[10:42] <ussher_> Yeah, i had a Downloads, a Music and some other ones.  delete em all.  except the desktop one.  thats useful
[10:43] <ussher_> I think they are just there to tell you, this is where you store stuff.
[10:43] <tdn> Hmm.... Ok.
[10:44] <ussher_> if it pops back up again after using some program then look for it in the default settings of that program.
[10:44] <nfrs> I'm using kubuntu 10.04/KDE 4.4.2/kmix 3.6, and there doesn't appear to be a balance control in KMix. what am I missing?
[10:44] <ussher_> tdn: like Netbeans IDE will by default make a folder on your home directory called NetBeansProjects
[10:45] <tdn> Ok.
[10:48] <ussher_> nfrs: if you go to the K menu -> multimedia  do you have the  "Pulse audio volume control" item?
[10:48] <ussher_> there is a balance control in there
[10:48] <nfrs> ussher_: I removed all packages related to pulseaudio, since it was messing my system up
[10:48] <nfrs> I'm using alsa
[10:49] <ussher_> ah, ok.
[10:57] <bigbrovar_> anyone running Intel GM965 graphic card on kde 4.4 performance here is so slow and chubby
[11:09] <macintux> Hey Everyone, I have a surplus of bandwidth to the tune of roughly 100GB/month or so and was wondering are there any ways to share bandwidth such as linux ISO's or something?
[11:09] <macintux> Things that would benefit the community that is.
[11:11] <ussher_> When i FTP into my server i can change file contents, but when i SSH into the same folder i get 'Permission denied' when trying to edit a file.  how can i give my SSH user edit permissions?
[11:15] <macintux> ussher_: Hey, Have you tried changing ownership of the files/folder to your ssh user?
[11:15] <ussher_> macintux: yeah i did that, but then when i ftp in i cant change the delete stuff
[11:15] <ussher_> change or delete stuff, sorrry.
[11:16] <macintux> ussher_: For the group permission which im assuming is what your using is it set to Can read and write?
[11:16] <macintux> ussher_: instead of just read.
[11:17] <ussher_> I was trying to find a way to SSH in with the vsftpd user, but it asks for a password which i dont know for that user.
[11:17] <macintux> ussher_: Is this a server you have physical access to?
[11:18] <ussher_> its running on virtualbox inside my laptop.
[11:18] <macintux> ussher_: Why don't you just create a new user/pass?
[11:18] <ussher_> so kubuntu os running virtual box which is running ubuntu server
[11:19] <macintux> ussher_: I'm not an expert on servers, but i know a little bit about Linux and such.
[11:19] <ussher_> I wonder if that would work..... Ill try.  the FTP stuff was setup by the ehcp control panel system.
[11:20] <ussher_> ill try to change the PW of the vsftpd user, see if i dont stuff everything up.
[11:20] <macintux> ussher_: You could create a snapshot before you do so..so you can always revert back to it.
[11:20] <ussher_> smart!!!
[11:29] <ussher_> macintux: i changed the password for vsftpd and tried to login through SSH  as soon as i got to the command line the connection was closed automatically
[11:30] <macintux> ussher_: Thats interesting. Never had that happen to me before.
[11:30] <ussher_> well the FTP still works, so its not a total disaster.
[11:31] <macintux> ussher_: Your running FTP through an ssh tunnel then?
[11:31] <ussher_> no, im using Konqueror for FTP to the virtualbox server.  but want to go in through SSH so i can use a command line tool called
[11:31] <ussher_> drush.  its for drupal
[11:32] <macintux> ussher_: I had tons of fun running a tunnel through ssh, using encrypted connections with friends. lol Sorry I can't be a ton of help though :(
[11:32] <ultradj83> Hi everybody. I have a zombie account: when I do login, password seems accepted but I'm taken back to login. Maybe this happens since the account has been cloned. Is it possible to fix?
[11:32] <ussher_> the issue is if im running drush as the user, it cant download stuff.  i have to do sudo to make it download stuff.  which screws up all permissions because the written folders belong to root
[11:32] <macintux> ussher_: Drupal is a great tool, I love it.
[11:33] <macintux> ussher_: Yeah, I have a feeling your permissions might be a bit wonky such as the folder itself...I hate permissions.
[11:33] <ussher_> drupal is cool and drush is a shell for drupal.  so you can skip the point and click admin interface
[11:34] <akbert> gh
[11:34] <ussher_> macintux: I know its a permissions thing.  This is the same issue i ran into last time i tried to get drush working.  I gave up.  Im trying again. :)
[11:35] <macintux> ussher_: Thats cool, I'll have to check that out. I would love to have a darknet it just sounds like so much fun...like back into dialup forums! woohoo 28.8k
[11:35] <macintux> ussher_: I'd suggest posting to the ubuntuforums, they're really helpful and can usually answer my questions. Wish I could be of more help.
[11:36] <ussher_> macintux: you were a great help.  Thanks very much.
[11:36] <ussher_> Ill keep at it.
[11:36] <ussher_> macintux++
[11:37] <macintux> ussher_: Don't worry, youll get it and then you'll be that much smarter then you can come here and tell me how you fixed it so i will have learned something! lol
[11:37] <OxDeadC0de_> acK! I just upgraded from Kubuntu 9.10 to 10.04 on a toshiba satellite and now the K Key is somehow mapped to the volume up and the volume slider taKes screenshots
[11:37] <OxDeadC0de_> anyone Know why? (i'm pasting the K's in here)
[11:38] <macintux> OxDeadC0de_: Hold on, i'll lookup keymaps real quick see if i can help you.
[11:40] <macintux> OxDeadC0de_: You can change all your keys with xmodmap, although you explained it may be linked to shortcuts which are...system preferences keyboard shortcuts
[11:40] <macintux> OxDeadC0de_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=797418
[11:43]  * OxDeadC0de_ looks
[11:46] <OxDeadC0de_> ugh, looks like it's not the only keyboard mapping problem, the arrow keys are all messed up too =\
[11:47] <OxDeadC0de_> i have a feeling the keys are all mapped wrong (at a lower level than kde)
[11:47] <macintux> OxDeadC0de_: I'm on a mac, so i feel some of your pain. I hate MacOSX so I run linux none of my F keys work...PITA to get the touchpad to do right click...volume keys....all that had to get them to work.
[11:48] <OxDeadC0de_> sucks cause 9.10 and 9.04 both worked fine
[11:51] <macintux> OxDeadC0de_: Yeah, Upgrading from 9.10 i believe i messed up my GRUB install...whole ton of other things as well. Sorry I couldn't be more help.
[11:52] <macintux> OxDeadC0de_: I know theres something you can run and it will tell you what key the system thinks your pressing..dont know the name of it off the top of my head though. May be helpful in your situation
[11:52] <OxDeadC0de_> yeah I can't remember what it's called either atm
[11:54] <macintux> OxDeadC0de_: I think its xev
[11:54] <macintux> Yes!!!! Thats it, It's "xev"
[11:55] <OxDeadC0de_> funny, xev is reporting the right stuff
[11:56] <OxDeadC0de_> volume controls are 122/123 and the k key reports as 'k' in xev =\
[11:56]  * OxDeadC0de_ tries removing the old .kde dir and killing xorg, brb
[12:00] <gnomefreak> how do you unlock apt? i cant recall
[12:00] <slow-motion> hi
[12:01] <gnomefreak> hi
[12:01] <macintux> !ot
[12:03] <gnomefreak> nevermind i found it
[12:05] <OxDeadC0de_> heh, funny, now the k key works, and the volume keys don't do anything, and the up arrow now takes screen shots.. *sigh*
[12:05] <macintux> OxDeadC0de_: One down 100 more to go? heh
[12:05]  * OxDeadC0de_ nods
[12:06] <macintux> OxDeadC0de_: You may be able to just change the shortcuts in system to make your volume keys work.
[12:07] <OxDeadC0de_> yeah, that and it said I had incomplete language info which could be a cause
[12:07] <OxDeadC0de_> er, language support*
[12:09] <OxDeadC0de_> maybe it has something to do with this ibus thing
[12:14] <OxDeadC0de_> grrr, the keys that arn't working in kde do work in the terminal (non-xorg)
[12:22] <OxDeadC0de_> well.. whatever I did seems to have worked
[12:22] <OxDeadC0de_> soo.. yay
[12:24] <OxDeadC0de_> thanks for the help macintux, turns out I had to install language support, set the language to english, then disable keyboard layouts (which were initially disabled...)
[12:25] <OxDeadC0de_> all that after I removed the original .kde dir of course
[12:26] <OxDeadC0de_> wow, I really like the hover over folder to open a quick folder view on the folder view plugin
[12:29] <macintux> OxDeadC0de_: Glad you got your problem fixed! :)
[12:29] <OxDeadC0de_> me too, that would have sucked to give my mother back her laptop all broken :P
[12:30] <macintux> OxDeadC0de_: That would suck. I'm in the market for a new laptop myself. The MacbookPro I have has a dead battery and I have 2 Asus Gamers laptops with cracked gfx cards. Any laptops you like out there?
[12:31] <OxDeadC0de_> I have no personal preferences.. as long as it's got enough ram and speed to compile very large apps in very little time, and do the occassional 3d modeling, I'm happy
[12:31] <OxDeadC0de_> when I recommend I always get an idea of the expected usage before I recommend anything
[12:32] <macintux> OxDeadC0de_: True, I was considering a Panasonic Toughbook. So tired of laptops failing on me hah. I refuse to buy another Asus but I like their high-res screens.
[12:32] <macintux> Getting laptops to run on linux can be a pain though so i have to find one that works with linux alright as well.
[12:33] <OxDeadC0de_> heh, I kinda wish I got a toughbook, my own laptop is literally falling to pieces.. luckily it's just the plastic case that's breaking and not the hardware (yet)
[12:33] <OxDeadC0de_> so umm, don't get hp if you mind your case falling to peices after 3-4 years ;)
[12:33] <macintux> OxDeadC0de_: You'll freak when you look at the pricetag though. I just wanted to scream when my 2 $1800 Asus laptops went out 4 days apart.
[12:34] <OxDeadC0de_> wow.
[12:34] <macintux> It was a defective gfx card..bought 1 week apart
[12:34] <OxDeadC0de_> I would have expected better from Asus
[12:34] <macintux> They changed owners..ever since then they are EVIL
[12:34] <OxDeadC0de_> good to know, I'll no longer buy their stuff then
[12:44] <naftilos76> hi, has anyone experienced mouse/keyboard stop responding (not crash). as seen in google lots of people have experienced in Kubuntu 10.04 and some say it is a kernel bug. One has tried giving params to the kernel at boot time which worked for hime but not 4 me! the param he gave was 'i8042.nopnp'. I am in the middle of a crises! please help...
[12:54] <macintux> naftilos76: I've never had that problem and ive been running 10.04 on multiple computers and laptops.
[12:57] <naftilos76> thanks for the feedback! anybody else?
[13:22] <antonella_bella> Hi guys. Can anybody help me to duplicate a user?
[13:24] <antonella_bella> I've tried to copy home and chown the whole new home, but something went wrong, maybe the old home includes some refs, I have to chown back the original home to have the original user working again...
[13:35] <macintux> antonella_bella: Duplicate a user?
[13:35] <antonella_bella> yep, to the same machine to have all configuration done with the new user
[13:38] <liquidat> Hej there, I just saw that KDEPIM 4.5 Beta1 was tagged - any chance to see that soon in the Kubuntu repositories?
[13:53] <xrfang> after upgrade to 4.4.5, I get a problem shown here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/xrfang/4754892864/sizes/l/
[13:53] <xrfang> anyone has same problem or know how to solve it? thanks
[13:54] <macintux> xrfang: I've had that problem once or twice but a restart fixed it.
[13:59] <xrfang> macintux: I had a more serious problem, compoisiting does not work and result in a screen that is 80% black... "several" restarts fixed that, but not  this one.
[14:07] <sakis> greek
[14:08] <ToxinPowe> xrfang: I have seen this problem too many times, did you search on google?
[14:08] <ToxinPowe> http://www.google.es/#hl=en&source=hp&q=kubuntu+black+screen&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=d9493e721f909874
[14:29] <russian_man> hi
[14:29] <slinker1> hi
[14:29] <russian_man> somebody install apache under linux?  I need to install mode_rewrite.
[14:30] <russian_man> slinker1 - a?
[14:31] <urgyen> isn't mod_rewrite already there?
[14:31] <slinker1> ought to be
[14:31] <russian_man> I think thak it is not here!  Because when I wreie in .htacces "RewriteEngine ON"  then  "Internal Server Error"
[14:32] <russian_man> how to check?  is mod_rewrite here or not?
[14:33] <russian_man> in config I did not see records with word "rewrite"
[14:33] <urgyen> did you look in /etc/apache2
[14:33] <russian_man> petr@ubuntu:/etc/apache2$ ls
[14:33] <russian_man> apache2.conf   conf.d   httpd.conf      mods-enabled  sites-available
[14:33] <russian_man> apache2.conf~  envvars  mods-available  ports.conf    sites-enabled
[14:34] <urgyen> so look in the mods-enabled directory
[14:34] <russian_man> ok
[14:34] <russian_man> petr@ubuntu:/etc/apache2$ ls
[14:34] <russian_man> apache2.conf   conf.d   httpd.conf      mods-enabled  sites-available
[14:34] <russian_man> apache2.conf~  envvars  mods-available  ports.conf    sites-enabled
[14:34] <russian_man> petr@ubuntu:/etc/apache2$ ls
[14:34] <russian_man> apache2.conf   conf.d   httpd.conf      mods-enabled  sites-available
[14:34] <russian_man> apache2.conf~  envvars  mods-available  ports.conf    sites-enabled
[14:34] <urgyen> :-)
[14:34] <russian_man> alias.load
[14:34] <russian_man> there are many files
[14:34] <FloodBotK2> russian_man: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:34] <russian_man> negotiation.conf
[14:35] <russian_man> cgid.load
[14:35] <russian_man> authz_groupfile.load
[14:35] <russian_man> status.load
[14:35] <russian_man> mime.load
[14:35] <urgyen> so you don't see rewrite there?
[14:35] <russian_man> cgid.conf
[14:35] <urgyen> you don't have to list everything
[14:35] <russian_man> NO!
[14:35] <urgyen> I'll take your word for it
[14:35] <urgyen> look in mods-available
[14:35] <urgyen> and see if it is there
[14:36] <russian_man> there are many many many!! )))
[14:36] <urgyen> that's linux
[14:36] <urgyen> :-)
[14:36] <russian_man> rewrite.load
[14:36] <urgyen> so to make it active you learn how to use the ln -s command
[14:37] <russian_man> I know how to use
[14:37] <urgyen> and make a link to the available file in the enabled directory
[14:37] <russian_man> it is symbolic link
[14:37] <urgyen> then restart
[14:37] <urgyen> yes
[14:37] <urgyen> and you will have mod-rewrite
[14:37] <russian_man> ok
[14:39] <russian_man> OP!!  Forbidden
[14:39] <russian_man> You don't have permission to access / on this server.
[14:39] <urgyen> sudo
[14:39] <russian_man> But I thik that rewrite work?
[14:39] <russian_man> no no.,,,   forbidden  in brouser
[14:39] <urgyen> oh
[14:40] <urgyen> ya now you can work on your script
[14:40] <russian_man> ok...  but it is better then 403 error (internal server)
[14:40] <russian_man> ok
[14:40] <russian_man> man wait... after some time may be I say you about my results
[14:41] <urgyen> :-)
[14:41] <urgyen> maybe
[14:41] <urgyen> I wander around a lot
[14:50] <kosmofield> hi
[15:15] <moscow_man> hellooooo
[15:15] <moscow_man> it is me again
[15:16] <kosmofield> Does anyone know where KCron's job-file is located? :|
[15:16] <moscow_man> how to remove ALL apache   and install new!  default configureation?
[15:16] <yefeng> hello?
[15:18] <yefeng> it is my first time to use IRC.it's interesting. Haha
[15:18] <BluesKaj> ok
[15:18] <moscow_man> yefeng ok
[15:18] <urgyen> mosc. you do have ubuntu, right?
[15:18] <moscow_man> yes
[15:18] <moscow_man> kubuntu
[15:18] <urgyen> so how do you install anything?
[15:19] <moscow_man> sudo apt-get install ...
[15:19] <urgyen> so you are not using a gnome or kde?
[15:19] <moscow_man> but apache was installed by defoult in distribtive
[15:19] <moscow_man> mmmm
[15:19] <urgyen> because you installed server?
[15:19] <moscow_man> I think kde
[15:20] <urgyen> so there is a gui package manager
[15:20] <moscow_man> no - server was by default on distributive
[15:20] <yefeng> where are you from?
[15:20] <urgyen> not that apt-get is that hard
[15:20] <urgyen> but this makes it just that much easier
[15:20] <urgyen> Software Management, kpackagekit
[15:20] <moscow_man> I remove all apache now....  sudo apt-get remove apache2....
[15:20] <urgyen> ok
[15:20] <urgyen> usually it won't erase config files that have been changed
[15:21] <urgyen> maybe save those as a different name
[15:21] <urgyen> there are probably wiki pages that will step you through an install showing all the different options along the way
[15:22] <moscow_man> fuck!  I think I want to remove my old 8 version of kubuntu.....
[15:22] <bazhang> moscow_man, no swearing please
[15:23] <urgyen> hmn
[15:23] <yefeng> ****
[15:23] <moscow_man> 2 days ago I close session in university - and I have 2 weeks to remove all my softwere and install NEW
[15:23] <yefeng> so,where are you from ?
[15:23] <moscow_man> russia
[15:24] <yefeng> I'm from China.Nice to talk to you.
[15:24] <moscow_man> stop man.... I do not want to go in russian IRC...  do not say me this
[15:24] <urgyen> hehe
[15:24] <urgyen> you are doing fine
[15:24] <urgyen> so you are trying to save things and start over?
[15:25] <moscow_man> some time ago (year)  I want to remove  my 8 version of kubuntu --- but windows installer did not work   in 10 version!
[15:26] <moscow_man> I think that I can remove all system - all kubuntu
[15:26] <urgyen> maybe
[15:26] <urgyen> problem with going off the path is risk of dependency hell
[15:26] <urgyen> otherwise it takes care and patience
[15:27] <moscow_man> wow )))  after removing all apache and installing new )))   server run nice
[15:27] <moscow_man> ok
[15:27] <urgyen> ok
[15:30] <BluesKaj> kubuntu is ubuntu with kde and kubuntu desktop environment , ubuntu has the gnome desktop environment
[15:30] <ilya-x> Kubuntu 10.04 is my first time with Linux, which I installed on the day it was released. Right now, I've let the system perform all its updates and patches as I've been using it, and as a result of this, the list of bootable kernel images in my GRUB list keeps growing and growing... I now have 3 kernels listed there, with 2 per image (normal and recovery). Why is this going on? How do I stop these updates from infinitely filling up my
[15:30] <ilya-x>  GRUB menu like this?
[15:32] <BluesKaj> ilya-x, one can remove old linux images with the package manager , just make sure you remove old ones.
[15:33] <ilya-x> is there no way to stop it from continuously happening in the future? I don't understand why this is going on at all, it seems like an annoying bug... this can't be normal behavior, can it?
[15:36] <BluesKaj> ilya-x, the linux kernel is periodically updated and the newest are added to grub automatically so when you boot you're booting into the latest one , unless you choose one further down the list.
[15:37] <ilya-x> so after several years of use, unless I manually go in and delete them, I should expect my grub list to be several pages long?
[15:37] <ilya-x> I can't be the only person who thinks that's rather bizarre
[15:38] <BluesKaj> only ifyou don't update your actual release
[15:39] <ilya-x> ok, well, thanks for the explanation anyway
[15:39] <BluesKaj> or upgrade to newer release
[15:40] <BluesKaj> ilya-x, it isn't bizarre , it just leaves more boot options
[15:41] <ncfi1013_> why is ktorrent crashing on me in karmic?
[15:41] <ilya-x> another question: right now, almost every time after I boot into Windows 7 on the same PC, after I restart and try booting back into Kubuntu, it will hang on the initial "Kubuntu" loading screen with no indications or messages on screen, but if I shut the computer off and back on and try to boot again, it gets into Kubuntu without issues
[15:41] <ilya-x> is this a known bug?
[15:41] <BluesKaj> your release won't update past a kernel that isn't supported by it
[15:42] <BluesKaj> so you won't have pages and pages of kernels
[15:43] <slow-motion> bye
[15:44] <BluesKaj> hi :)
[16:00] <petr_> moscow_man
[16:00] <moscow_man> hi
[16:00] <moscow_man> which LINUX do you recomend me?
[16:01] <moscow_man> I want to start download new version of linux
[16:01] <moscow_man> mandriva 2010?  kubuntu 10?   ubuntu ???
[16:01] <moscow_man> what is better   and ehere can I see review?
[16:01] <bazhang> moscow_man, this is kubuntu support only
[16:01] <moscow_man> ((
[16:01] <bazhang> moscow_man, perhaps try in ##linux
[16:01] <moscow_man> ok - kubuntu 10?
[16:01] <maco> moscow_man: have you used any linux distros before?
[16:02] <moscow_man> I use kubuntu 8 now
[16:02] <maco> i dont know if that means 8.04 or 8.10, but either way its no longer being supported...
[16:03] <maco> well if youre used to apt and kde, then sticking with kubuntu might be a good idea
[16:03] <moscow_man> 8.04
[16:03] <maco> unless you want to learn something new, in which case mandriva will have new package management stuff for you to learn (but they also make you pay money for some stuff, so watch out)
[16:03] <solifugus> The vesa driver is installed but kubuntu is trying to use noveau (oss nvidia).. How can I make xorg use vesa instead?
[16:03] <maco> solifugus: youd need to make an xorg.conf
[16:04] <solifugus> ah.. and there's a command for that.
[16:04] <solifugus> that i don't remember
[16:05] <solifugus> are runlevels set in /init/rc.conf ?
[16:05] <maco> ubuntu doesnt use sysv init runlevel stuff...
[16:05] <maco> we have upstart
[16:06] <Space_Man> 8.04 was KDE3, 10.04 is KDE4, there is also a KDE3 version of 10.04
[16:06] <maco> Space_Man: there ws a kde4 version of 8.04 too
[16:06] <aneesh_> hhii
[16:06] <Space_Man> look for the Trinity remix
[16:06] <maco> and the kde3 version of 10.04 is unofficial and not supported here
[16:06] <solifugus> I need to set it to 3, so I can get into kubuntu w/o chroot'ing from a livecd
[16:06] <Space_Man> was there really?
[16:06] <Space_Man> it must have been bad :)
[16:06] <maco> solifugus: that doesnt do what you think it does
[16:06] <maco> solifugus: this isnt red hat
[16:07] <aneesh_> hi, my compiz not getting started automatically :(
[16:07] <maco> solifugus: runlevels 2, 3, 4, 5 *ALL* run the graphical login manager if it's available in debian lan
[16:07] <solifugus> maco: how can i make it start on commandline, instead of x?
[16:07] <maco> *land
[16:07] <maco> solifugus: you could boot into single user mode...
[16:07] <aneesh_> any help???
[16:07] <aneesh_> pleashe
[16:07] <BluesKaj> solifugus, ctrl+alt+f1
[16:08] <aneesh_> any compiz experts here?
[16:08] <maco> aneesh_: doubtful. its not often used in kde since kwin has its own effects
[16:08] <maco> aneesh_: but anything should autostart if you just put it in the autostart thing in systemsettings
[16:08] <solifugus> BluesKaj: doesn't work.. it's all black regardless.. the video driver is totally foo-bar'd..
[16:08] <aneesh_> yeah, thanks for the response
[16:09] <maco> solifugus: use recovery mode
[16:09] <aneesh_> i just created softlinks, to the ./kde/Autostart
[16:09] <BluesKaj> solifugus, it should get you to a TTY
[16:09] <aneesh_> still its not working, really weired ;(
[16:09] <maco> BluesKaj: not always
[16:09] <solifugus> recovery mode gives me text up until kdm then goes black
[16:09] <maco> BluesKaj: if X is too broken it wont work
[16:10] <solifugus> you're right.. I can start ssh
[16:10] <maco> solifugus: recovery mode doesnt have kdm
[16:10] <moscow_man> guys!   where can I download super KUBUNTU 10 ?
[16:10] <maco> BluesKaj: there are some ways graphics drivers can break where the prompts arent visible in the tty
[16:10] <moscow_man> may be russian edition
[16:10] <BluesKaj> maco,, too broken , what does X have to do with it?
[16:10] <maco> moscow_man: http://kubuntu.org has a download button
[16:11] <maco> BluesKaj: X fails to let go of the device properly or something. i remember this happening with i945 in gutsy or thereabouts
[16:11] <solifugus> maco: ... well.. let's try that again then.. it looked like it was starting kdm.. i'll see
[16:11] <maco> or maybe it was i965 on hardy...
[16:11] <moscow_man> kubuntu 10 have installer .iso ????   I want to use windows and linux together
[16:11] <maco> moscow_man: yes the download with be a .iso. just burn it to a cd. the installer will offer to dual boot
[16:11] <BluesKaj> maco, then it's more than X , it's a hardware recognition problem
[16:12] <maco> BluesKaj: well X is where the graphics drivers are... though nowadays i guess KMS could be getting in on the fun
[16:13] <moscow_man> kubuntu 8 I installed without butning CD!!!    only under "alcohol120%"!    But 10 version need burnig on CD ????????
[16:13] <BluesKaj> maco,if one is going to use the tty ,then stopping kdm is usually best
[16:14] <moscow_man> It may be!
[16:14] <maco> BluesKaj: but if you cant get to a working tty from kdm, you cant stop kdm
[16:14] <moscow_man> because 10 version do not install under alcohol120% (windows program - emulator of CD)
[16:15] <maco> BluesKaj: im saying that when X is running (as it is when kdm is up) if it's really poorly handling your hardware, it may refuse to let go of your hardware for a regular tty to become available. in that case you get a black screen with no prompt. you cant stop kdm from there
[16:15] <maco> moscow_man: you can do that
[16:15] <moscow_man> OK  I am starting download
[16:15] <moscow_man> yes!  I am ready to do it ))
[16:15] <BluesKaj> maco, then as I said before , it's most likely a kernel source problem, a hardware module may not be loading or available
[16:16] <moscow_man> I want kubuntu 10 !
[16:16] <maco> moscow_man: you wont get a partitioned dual boot since that requires a cd, but i guess if thats how you did 8.04 then you must be used to wubi anyway
[16:16] <maco> BluesKaj: have there always been pieces of the graphics drivers in kernel?
[16:16] <maco> cuz this happened before KMS came onto the scene...
[16:17] <maco> oh hmm ok that was a stupid question
[16:17] <maco> DRM
[16:17] <BluesKaj> maco just the default vesa afaik
[16:17] <maco> DRM/DRI happens in kernel space i think... so yeah there wouldve been kernel to blame...
[16:18] <BluesKaj> maco, granted your description may be correct but the cause then is difficult to fix
[16:24] <macintux___> BluesKaj: Hey Blues, are you a dev or something?
[16:27] <BluesKaj> macintux___, no, just a user
[16:27] <macintux___> BluesKaj: Your always in here and you've helped me numerous times. Thats so awesome, you just need a huge recognition plaque :)
[16:29] <BluesKaj> macintux___, I see what you mean about KMS , that could definitely a problem , but if there are some guys who have a workaround , for the failure to load, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/radeon-kms-works-760963/
[16:30] <BluesKaj> macintux___, I'm an old retired guy ith a lotta time on my hands :)
[16:30] <BluesKaj> with
[16:30] <macintux___> BluesKaj: Well anyway thanks for your support, I've seen you in here for the last few years! Been really great having help :)
[16:31] <BluesKaj> oops I mean't maco for the url post
[16:31] <BluesKaj> macintux___, always glad to help :)
[16:31] <maco> hey slackware... ive got a few friends that work on that
[16:35] <BluesKaj> hmm , holland ahead 2-1
[16:35] <Torch> BluesKaj: oh, good!
[16:42] <BluesKaj> BBL
[18:15] <meatbun> i am having prob with ubuntu firefox. none of those links can be clicked. http://www.maxgroup.com/products.htm
[18:28] <nixbox> hi all
[18:29] <nixbox> i am running kubuntu 10.04, i have installed the cups and started it, i can see the port 631 as being open in the netstat, but when i try to open up http;//localhost:631 in my browser, it says connection refused, what is wrong?, i aslo tried telnetting to 631 and doing a "get /" it returns some html, which means atleast something is running
[18:30] <nixbox> also, i installed hplip and hplip-gui but i do not see any "HP Toolbox" in menu -> Applications -> System
[18:42] <istlupreu> hi
[18:51] <Khaotic> erm
[18:51] <Khaotic> amarok doesnt work
[18:52] <James147> Khaotic: define "dosent work"...
[18:53] <Khaotic> doesnt play my music
[18:53] <James147> Khaotic: no sound? wont load *.mp3 wont load any media type?
[18:54] <Khaotic> nope
[18:54] <Khaotic> just super plays through the playlist
[18:54] <Khaotic> but no sound out
[18:54] <James147> Khaotic: the more detail you give the more likly you will get an answer
[18:54] <Khaotic> thats the best i have
[18:54] <Khaotic> doesnt play my files
[18:54] <James147> Khaotic: you probally need the codecs (install kubuntu-restricted-extras)
[18:54] <Khaotic> like it just skips through them
[18:55] <Khaotic> from terminal?
[18:55] <James147> Khaotic: from any package managment program (apt-get, aptitude, kpackagekit... it dosent really matter)
[18:55] <Khaotic> k
[18:56] <Khaotic> thats it?
[18:57] <James147> Khaotic: restart amarok once its installed and see if it worked
[18:57] <Khaotic> ok give me a few
[18:57] <Khaotic> still installing
[19:01] <Khaotic> James147, thanks so much
[19:18] <balam> bonsoir
[19:28] <nixbox> how do you add applications to startup?
[19:28] <Torch> nixbox: login or startupß
[19:29] <Torch> nixbox: login or startup?
[19:29] <nixbox> Torch: login
[19:29] <nixbox> Torch: by the way I figured the dual monitor problem with intel cards, i had to disable compositing
[19:29] <pulaski> Hi, nixbox, left click on the 'K' start button and choose the 'menu editor.  Its pretty intuitive from there.
[19:30] <Torch> nixbox: alterantively, there's system settings -> advanced -> autostart
[19:37] <nixbox> Torch: i am trying to add skype, skype is not visible as a program in the program list, also when i try to add it as a script, it doesn't show skype in /usr/bin (probably because its just looking for a shell script), "which skype" shows it is in /usr/bin/skype
[19:39] <Torch> nixbox: you should not need to autostart skype. just run it and leave it running on logout.
[19:39] <Torch> nixbox: KDE will then run it again when you log in the next time.
[19:39] <nixbox> Torch: ah, good, thanks
[19:41] <nixbox> for some reason, cups is running but i cannot browse http://localhost:631, netstat shows port 631 is opened by cupsd
[20:04] <ldeveaux> hi everybody !
[20:04] <ldeveaux> I am using an MSI Wind with Kubuntu but my camera doesn't work
[20:05] <ldeveaux> I think this bug has already be reported but I don't know how to resolve it
[20:05] <ldeveaux> do I have some packages to download or any commands ?
[20:21] <jaime_> hi, fresh install of K-10.4 here, sending mail 'with an attachment' makes the box freeze hard. same thing with thunderbird and kmail. fresh profiles, thorough hardware test, reinstalled apps and deps (even though debsum had no complaints), nothing seems to fix it. :( anyone?
[20:23] <jussi> ldeveaux: curious, it works on my msi wind clone...
[21:04] <samiul> hi
[21:39] <Roey> Hello.. is k3b 2.0 coming to Lucid or Maverick?
[21:41] <mime> hello there, well i was going to /etc/pulse/daemon text file for enabling my 5.1 audio, for changing the 2 channels by the 6, but the files doesnt exist, what i am suposed to do :( i ise kubuntu 10.04 lts, thanx all
[21:45] <mime11> hello there, well i was going to /etc/pulse/daemon text file for enabling my 5.1 audio, for changing the 2 channels by the 6, but the files doesnt exist, what i am suposed to do :( i ise kubuntu 10.04 lts, thanx all
[21:45] <mime11> hello there, well i was going to /etc/pulse/daemon text file for enabling my 5.1 audio, for changing the 2 channels by the 6, but the files doesnt exist, what i am suposed to do :( i ise kubuntu 10.04 lts, thanx all
[21:45] <mime11> sorry internet probs
[21:45] <FloodBotK2> mime11: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:50] <Roey> When's k3b 2.0 coming to Lucid?
[21:52] <BluesKaj> Roey, try in #ubuntu+1
[21:52] <Roey> thanks
[21:55] <BluesKaj> Roey, or #k3b
[21:55] <Roey> ah, didn't know it existed.  Thanks.
[22:40] <ilumi> why is apache2 running on kubuntu, whats it for?
[22:40] <ilumi> can i kill it?
[22:40] <ilumi> how to stop it from starting up?
[22:40] <ilumi> at boot
[22:44] <ilumi> also why is my soundcard volume 40-50% lower than in windows?
[23:04] <Torch> ilumi: it's running because you installed it, i would guess.
[23:04] <Torch> ilumi: uninstall it and it won't run.
[23:38] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit