| jpds | patdk-wk: The US mirror servers I recommend are http://mirror.anl.gov/ (Chicago) and http://ubuntu.osuosl.org/ (multiple: http://ftpmap.osuosl.org/) - you'll probably get better speeds from the former. | 00:02 |
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| * jpds pokes BUGabundo. | 00:02 | |
| * BUGabundo feels poked | 00:03 | |
| BUGabundo | ahhh | 00:03 |
| BUGabundo | LOL | 00:03 |
| BUGabundo | over the ocean just to help us | 00:03 |
| BUGabundo | bah | 00:03 |
| jpds | fagan: "irish ones are better than the uk ones" ← are you referring to gb.archive ? | 00:04 |
| fagan | jpds: ill have you know I know the guys who run the irish ones | 00:04 |
| fagan | they are very good | 00:04 |
| fagan | and we have them all to ourselfves | 00:04 |
| fagan | muhhahahaha | 00:05 |
| jpds | I know, I wasn't saying that HEANet are bad; in fact I've had email conversations with them before IIRC. | 00:05 |
| fagan | jpds: met a few of them and they love landscape in their office | 00:06 |
| fagan | they have a private instance I hear | 00:06 |
| jpds | However, I do intend to give gb.archive more RAM in the coming weeks, which should make it a lot snapier. | 00:06 |
| h00k | I'm still having problems with btrfs any my SSD. I have 'defaults,ssd' in my fstab, I'm still getting terrible speeds | 00:07 |
| shane_fagan | jpds: missed all that because I crashed | 00:11 |
| shane_fagan | what were you saying | 00:11 |
| jpds | shane_fagan: /msg | 00:11 |
| shane_fagan | fyi sometimes gstreamer makes your desktop become unresponsive if you change the song info | 00:11 |
| jpds | patdk-wk: FWIW, the mirrors I've mentioned are updated every 5 hours, regardless of what Launchpad says. | 00:13 |
| h00k | It took me 12+ hours to install from the alternate image to my SSD with btrfs, I was guided here to add 'ssd' to my fstab, I'm still getting really slow responses :( | 00:17 |
| BUGabundo | you too? | 00:25 |
| h00k | BUGabundo: are you having that, too? | 00:26 |
| BUGabundo | no | 00:26 |
| BUGabundo | I just notice it was both times, YOU | 00:26 |
| BUGabundo | :| | 00:26 |
| h00k | yeah... | 00:27 |
| h00k | perhaps I should report a bug | 00:27 |
| shane_fagan | ah I figured out what caused my crash the files werent right | 00:28 |
| h00k | I do see this, https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/FAQ#Is_Btrfs_optimized_for_SSD.3F | 00:33 |
| h00k | so...I don't know exactly what to do | 00:33 |
| Jordan_U | h00k: Took me about the same amount of time to install to btrfs with a virtual machine also. | 00:33 |
| h00k | Jordan_U: Yeah, definitely not very fast on my netbook. I don't know if it's because it is a SSD | 00:34 |
| shane_fagan | I havent tried btrfs but if its taking that long report a bug | 00:35 |
| Jordan_U | h00k: Since the same happened to me with a VM over a normal hard drive I doubt that it has anything to do with it being an SSD. | 00:36 |
| h00k | Would it actually be reported on the kernel or btrfs-tools? | 00:36 |
| shane_fagan | h00k: they do have a ssd optimised version that according to benchmarks its supposed to be faster | 00:36 |
| shane_fagan | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_netbook_fs&num=1 | 00:36 |
| shane_fagan | but it depends on what you are doing | 00:37 |
| h00k | shane_fagan: according to the btrfswiki, it should be optimized already if it detects a non-spinning platter ^ | 00:37 |
| shane_fagan | h00k: true | 00:37 |
| h00k | As of 2.6.31-rc1 | 00:37 |
| h00k | so, does this get reported against btrfs or the kernel? | 00:39 |
| h00k | er, btrfs-tools, rather | 00:40 |
| shane_fagan | h00k: its the kernel id say | 00:40 |
| shane_fagan | h00k: if its not then the kernel devs will switch it to btrfs-tools | 00:41 |
| h00k | that's what I figured | 00:41 |
| KukuNut | Try A2 UNE but only gets the fuzzy purple cloud. Would like to see what unity is | 02:07 |
| iddo | it works here | 02:08 |
| KukuNut | the 6/8 iso works btw..Does this one already has the unity interface? | 02:08 |
| mininessie | ubuntu sucks | 02:52 |
| maco | mininessie: thanks for letting us know | 02:52 |
| maco | if you can be more specific, bugs are filed using the "ubuntu-bug" command. thanks | 02:53 |
| mininessie | install fedora | 02:53 |
| IdleOne | maco: I believe it is time to switch distro. | 03:11 |
| maco | IdleOne: but mini suggested one that uses yum! if im goin anywhere its debian | 03:11 |
| IdleOne | Ubuntu is based off Debian. Logic dictates that Debian would suck also. | 03:12 |
| IdleOne | You can't argue that kind of logic | 03:12 |
| patdk-lap | sure one can | 03:12 |
| IdleOne | patdk-lap: ok, you can but would be wrong :P | 03:13 |
| IdleOne | </sarcasm> | 03:13 |
| bjsnider | wait, ubuntu sucks, and the solution to this problem is to install fedora??? | 03:30 |
| bjsnider | isn't that a bit like preventing future fires by burning down the forest? | 03:31 |
| jimerickson | yes thats it | 03:34 |
| patdk-lap | install opensuse? | 03:37 |
| KukuNut | A2 reboot is dropping to initramfs..Fatal: error inserting btrfs. Unknown symbol in module or unknown parameter | 04:33 |
| patdk-lap | using btrfs? | 04:33 |
| patdk-lap | ya, missing crc32c from initramfs | 04:34 |
| KukuNut | any fix? | 04:34 |
| patdk-lap | ya, add crc32c.ko to the initrd file | 04:34 |
| KukuNut | how? | 04:35 |
| patdk-lap | I so dont have time to hold your hand to do that | 04:35 |
| patdk-lap | why it's alpha :) | 04:35 |
| patdk-lap | and not stable :) | 04:35 |
| patdk-lap | google is your friend | 04:35 |
| KukuNut | patdk-lap: partitions are not encrypted | 04:42 |
| patdk-lap | what? | 04:42 |
| patdk-lap | what the hell does encryption have to do with anything? | 04:42 |
| === Yahweh is now known as poutine | ||
| ActionParsnip | Yo yo yo +1 | 07:01 |
| Dat001 | hi | 07:03 |
| Fudge | g'day guys | 07:07 |
| ActionParsnip | Yo Fudge | 07:09 |
| Fudge | im wondering if my speech components of my system are going to fall over with maverick | 07:21 |
| Fudge | opentts epech-dispatcher orca voxin speakup etc | 07:21 |
| Fudge | how do u tell apt-get to install packages that are kept back? | 07:32 |
| ddecator | if they are held back, it usually means it failed for your arch | 07:32 |
| ddecator | failed to build* | 07:33 |
| Fudge | oh, 64 | 07:33 |
| ddecator | try again later and they should be available | 07:33 |
| Fudge | 249 not upgraded | 07:34 |
| Fudge | ok | 07:34 |
| ddecator | that'll happen a lot in development releases | 07:35 |
| Fudge | i just thought something wasnt working right on my box | 07:44 |
| Fudge | like had to take out the lucid repos in sources list or something | 07:45 |
| Fudge | oops it does that already :$ | 07:49 |
| ddecator | yup :) | 07:50 |
| ddecator | or at least it's supposed to | 07:50 |
| === Laibcoms is now known as Laibcoms-XMPP | ||
| === Laibcoms-XMPP is now known as laibcoms | ||
| Fudge | :D my bad | 08:45 |
| cousin_mario | hello | 10:07 |
| cousin_mario | will 10.10 have a less hideous color theme? | 10:07 |
| BUGabundo_remote | has there been any X updates today? | 11:54 |
| BUGabundo_remote | my machine is soooooooooooooooooooooooo slow | 11:54 |
| BUGabundo_remote | its making me cry | 11:54 |
| BUGabundo_remote | or throw it out of the window | 11:54 |
| tsimpson | you don't check what updates are being installed? | 11:55 |
| cousin_mario | is maverick meerkat going to be less ugly? | 11:58 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| Dat001 | I also hope there is a bit of an improvement but at this stage it looks the same to me | 12:00 |
| cousin_mario | Dat001: I'd content myself with a somewhat more palatable theme | 12:03 |
| cousin_mario | that starry pink thing is an eyesore | 12:03 |
| BUGabundo_remote | cousin_mario: s/ugly/pinky/ | 12:05 |
| BUGabundo_remote | tsimpson: usually I do... but today is not a good day... and ofc murphy law seems to have bitten me | 12:06 |
| cousin_mario | BUGabundo_remote: pinky is a subset of ugly | 12:06 |
| BUGabundo_remote | funny enough, your notices here show in pink | 12:07 |
| BUGabundo_remote | LOL | 12:07 |
| BUGabundo_remote | oh the irony | 12:07 |
| cousin_mario | for some reason, I suppose this: 13:08:39 [freenode] CTCP VERSION reply from BUGabundo_remote: Purple IRC | 12:08 |
| cousin_mario | is to blame | 12:09 |
| === vivid` is now known as vivid | ||
| qense | Are there any WebM capable players in Maverick yet? Totem, VLC and GNOME MPlayer all don't work. | 13:51 |
| qense | I though the latest VLC release included WebM support by default, but maybe I was wrong. | 13:52 |
| gnomefreak | Rythembox doesnt? yes i fairly sure i spelled it wrong. im pre coffee | 13:53 |
| qense | Rhythmbox is using GStreamer, just as Totem, right? | 13:53 |
| qense | and can Rhythmbox play video? | 13:53 |
| qense | Maybe VLC needs some compiler flags enabled to depend in libvpx | 13:55 |
| ripps | I think the latest cairo screwed up some rendering in chromium | 14:02 |
| === Airgrce is now known as Airgrace | ||
| === gordon is now known as Guest30228 | ||
| === villemv is now known as villev | ||
| DrHalan | dopes anyone else have problems with evolutions message filters? | 17:19 |
| DrHalan | they don't seem to work on imap for me.. | 17:20 |
| sebsebseb | Hi | 17:25 |
| BUGabundo_remote | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1542599/desktopsplit.png my IM screen | 17:52 |
| td123 | ok, has ubuntu 10.10 alpha 2 forgotten to ship aptitude with it?!?!?! | 18:21 |
| guntbert | td123: you have to install it with apt-get obviously :-( | 18:22 |
| td123 | ofc, but aptitude was always there by default | 18:22 |
| td123 | has ubuntu decided that it doesn't need aptitude? | 18:22 |
| guntbert | !info aptitude maverick | 18:24 |
| ubottu | aptitude (source: aptitude): terminal-based package manager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.11.11-1ubuntu10 (maverick), package size 1510 kB, installed size 9712 kB | 18:24 |
| guntbert | td123: its still available but "optional" now | 18:24 |
| JontheEchidna | They decided it wasn't worth the 3 MB of packages it brought on to the CD, when apt-get and graphical package managers are already there | 18:24 |
| td123 | so they decided to make more room for backgrounds ... I'm glad it has it's proirities straight XD | 18:26 |
| JontheEchidna | um, yeah. no. I never said it was for backgrounds | 18:26 |
| td123 | I know you didn't say that | 18:27 |
| cortex|sk | td123: or maybe it was for for another mono based app :D | 18:27 |
| td123 | cortex|sk: hopefully not :P | 18:27 |
| td123 | oh well, I really liked aptitude, time to get used to apt-get again :P | 18:31 |
| td123 | err. apt-* | 18:31 |
| JontheEchidna | or just sudo apt-get install aptitude and live life normally? :P | 18:32 |
| DrHalan | doesnt mono get dropped in this release? | 18:32 |
| td123 | JontheEchidna: nah, I don't like to use non-default tools | 18:37 |
| guntbert | td123: if a tool moves from "default" to "optional" that doesn't mean it is less usable or less supported | 18:38 |
| DrHalan | lol :D | 18:43 |
| DrHalan | td123: the purpose of a repository is using stuff that is not preinstalled | 18:43 |
| td123 | ya, but I like using the preinstalled stuff | 18:55 |
| DrHalan | lol | 18:55 |
| arand | was that about aptitude? | 19:00 |
| jo-erlend_ | I thought Maverick would be based on gnome 2.30, but I see that applications like Evolution are still on 2.30.2, while Empathy is 2.31.3. Is this just temporary, or will Maverick stick with older software? | 19:00 |
| jo-erlend_ | I mean I thought it would be based on gnome 2.32/3.0. | 19:01 |
| arand | It will do a migration which should be done in two realease I think, is the plan.. | 19:02 |
| arand | There were some flames (~) about that on the gnome mailing list iirc... | 19:03 |
| DrHalan | yeah i was wondering too why some packages aren'T updated | 19:04 |
| iddo | gnome-shell --replace doesnt work hmm, could not load /usr/lib/mutter/plugins/libgnome-shell.so | 19:20 |
| iddo | any ideas? its netbook edition of maverick alpha2 | 19:20 |
| sebsebseb | iddo: as far as I know, your not really meant to run gnome-shell on the netbook edition | 19:22 |
| iddo | i logged into normal gnome session before trying | 19:23 |
| iddo | i mean with gnome-panel etc. | 19:23 |
| sebsebseb | iddo: Thats got replaced or going to get replaced as far as I know, since Unity | 19:24 |
| sebsebseb | iddo: basically Unity or nothing for the netbook edition | 19:25 |
| sebsebseb | iddo: I have only briefly tried netbook edition in vm, however I know that at the moment users can get the normal Gnome, but probably not soon? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/600567 | 19:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 600567 in unity (Ubuntu) "Unity does not provide a non-3D fallback" [High,Won't fix] | 19:28 |
| iddo | well, both unity and gnome-shell are 3d, using mutter and clutter | 19:35 |
| DrHalan | what is non 3d? you have cpu emulation for OpenGL in X... | 19:41 |
| BUGabundo | I knew there was something in todays updates | 20:37 |
| BUGabundo | machine is slow | 20:37 |
| BUGabundo | now has an all new icon desing | 20:37 |
| sebsebseb | BUGabundo: The screenshot you linked to earlier, was sort of interesting, altough I don't know why you linked to that. | 20:45 |
| BUGabundo | bha | 20:46 |
| BUGabundo | that was debian unstable | 20:46 |
| BUGabundo | with a really bad theme | 20:46 |
| sebsebseb | oh | 20:46 |
| BUGabundo | running pidgin and gwibber of my laptop | 20:46 |
| BUGabundo | with maverick, over SSH | 20:46 |
| sebsebseb | oh | 20:46 |
| BUGabundo | NX was kiling me... | 20:46 |
| BUGabundo | since the X is slow, NX was crawling to the point apps over SSH were faster | 20:46 |
| BUGabundo | go figure | 20:46 |
| sebsebseb | BUGabundo: Have you done 10.10 with btrfs/ | 20:47 |
| sebsebseb | ? | 20:47 |
| BUGabundo | no | 20:47 |
| BUGabundo | stock ext4 | 20:47 |
| BUGabundo | in a single partition | 20:48 |
| sebsebseb | what you mean stock? | 20:48 |
| h00k | BUGabundo: I reported that btrfs problem yesterday | 20:48 |
| sebsebseb | Anyway this morning I downloaded the alternate and installed into a vm, but | 20:49 |
| sebsebseb | something went wrong | 20:49 |
| sebsebseb | woudn't put Grub 2 on. I had done /boot in Ext4 and / in btrfs | 20:49 |
| BUGabundo | yeah | 20:49 |
| BUGabundo | patdk-wk: found the same prob | 20:49 |
| sebsebseb | BUGabundo: h00k 's or mine? | 20:49 |
| BUGabundo | btrfs on boot failing | 20:50 |
| BUGabundo | damn it this new theme SUCKS | 20:50 |
| sebsebseb | BUGabundo: new theme? | 20:50 |
| BUGabundo | its dark with light boxes | 20:50 |
| patdk-wk | hmm | 20:50 |
| BUGabundo | who the heck hit the head in the wall?? | 20:50 |
| patdk-wk | my computer informed me poeple where talking of me | 20:50 |
| sebsebseb | BUGabundo: uhmm I thought the 10.04 new themes sucked, well black one was sort of ok, except for ugly window borders, and FIrefox looking uh | 20:51 |
| sebsebseb | anyway my vm something about Grub 2 not being able to install to target | 20:51 |
| patdk-wk | I'm here for btrfs, not grub2 :) | 20:52 |
| sebsebseb | patdk-wk: well I tried to do btrfs in vm this morning, but see above | 20:52 |
| sebsebseb | I wonder what will happen if I do the netbook version in vm. 1. no propritary driver installed on the host OS for nivida. 2. Unity wants propritary driver working first | 20:53 |
| sebsebseb | so I guess it would look like before or something without Unity | 20:53 |
| sebsebseb | patdk-wk: as for btrfs Fedora has had it for quite a while now | 20:54 |
| * patdk-wk wonders what fedora has to do with anything? | 20:55 | |
| * patdk-wk leaves, talking to sebsebseb is useless | 20:55 | |
| h00k | bug 600846 | 20:56 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 600846 in linux (Ubuntu) "[STAGING] btrfs performance on SSD 2.6.35-6.9-generic" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/600846 | 20:56 |
| * patdk-wk has no issues with btrfs root :) | 20:56 | |
| * patdk-wk doesnt have ssd though | 20:56 | |
| h00k | I am using btrfs root with /boot on ext2 | 20:58 |
| billybigrigger | anyone seeing wierd colors in images with firefox? | 21:31 |
| Roey | hello | 21:52 |
| Roey | when is k3b 2.0 coming to Lucid? | 21:52 |
| guntbert | Roey: this channel is for maverick - please ask in about lucid in #ubuntu - but usually versions don't get upgraded on a released version | 21:54 |
| Roey | that's what I figured | 21:54 |
| Roey | it's just that k3b 1.91 is the latest one ofr Lucid, and it itself is old (the k3b 1.x is on 1.93, which fixes a serious bug with m3u files) | 21:54 |
| BUGabundo | hey billybigrigger billy | 22:21 |
| BUGabundo | not in firefox | 22:21 |
| BUGabundo | everywhere else: YES | 22:21 |
| * David-T recommends less acid | 22:22 | |
| billybigrigger | BUGabundo, sup | 22:46 |
| billybigrigger | BUGabundo, i get it only in firefox | 22:46 |
| billybigrigger | almost like the nvidia -1000 hue bug all over again | 22:46 |
| billybigrigger | but everything isn't blue | 22:46 |
| BUGabundo | ahaha | 22:48 |
| BUGabundo | to me it's the icons and theme | 22:48 |
| BUGabundo | its all whitish | 22:48 |
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