[00:02] patdk-wk: The US mirror servers I recommend are http://mirror.anl.gov/ (Chicago) and http://ubuntu.osuosl.org/ (multiple: http://ftpmap.osuosl.org/) - you'll probably get better speeds from the former. [00:02] * jpds pokes BUGabundo. [00:03] * BUGabundo feels poked [00:03] ahhh [00:03] LOL [00:03] over the ocean just to help us [00:03] bah [00:04] fagan: "irish ones are better than the uk ones" ← are you referring to gb.archive ? [00:04] jpds: ill have you know I know the guys who run the irish ones [00:04] they are very good [00:04] and we have them all to ourselfves [00:05] muhhahahaha [00:05] I know, I wasn't saying that HEANet are bad; in fact I've had email conversations with them before IIRC. [00:06] jpds: met a few of them and they love landscape in their office [00:06] they have a private instance I hear [00:06] However, I do intend to give gb.archive more RAM in the coming weeks, which should make it a lot snapier. [00:07] I'm still having problems with btrfs any my SSD. I have 'defaults,ssd' in my fstab, I'm still getting terrible speeds [00:11] jpds: missed all that because I crashed [00:11] what were you saying [00:11] shane_fagan: /msg [00:11] fyi sometimes gstreamer makes your desktop become unresponsive if you change the song info [00:13] patdk-wk: FWIW, the mirrors I've mentioned are updated every 5 hours, regardless of what Launchpad says. [00:17] It took me 12+ hours to install from the alternate image to my SSD with btrfs, I was guided here to add 'ssd' to my fstab, I'm still getting really slow responses :( [00:25] you too? [00:26] BUGabundo: are you having that, too? [00:26] no [00:26] I just notice it was both times, YOU [00:26] :| [00:27] yeah... [00:27] perhaps I should report a bug [00:28] ah I figured out what caused my crash the files werent right [00:33] I do see this, https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/FAQ#Is_Btrfs_optimized_for_SSD.3F [00:33] so...I don't know exactly what to do [00:33] h00k: Took me about the same amount of time to install to btrfs with a virtual machine also. [00:34] Jordan_U: Yeah, definitely not very fast on my netbook. I don't know if it's because it is a SSD [00:35] I havent tried btrfs but if its taking that long report a bug [00:36] h00k: Since the same happened to me with a VM over a normal hard drive I doubt that it has anything to do with it being an SSD. [00:36] Would it actually be reported on the kernel or btrfs-tools? [00:36] h00k: they do have a ssd optimised version that according to benchmarks its supposed to be faster [00:36] http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_netbook_fs&num=1 [00:37] but it depends on what you are doing [00:37] shane_fagan: according to the btrfswiki, it should be optimized already if it detects a non-spinning platter ^ [00:37] h00k: true [00:37] As of 2.6.31-rc1 [00:39] so, does this get reported against btrfs or the kernel? [00:40] er, btrfs-tools, rather [00:40] h00k: its the kernel id say [00:41] h00k: if its not then the kernel devs will switch it to btrfs-tools [00:41] that's what I figured [02:07] Try A2 UNE but only gets the fuzzy purple cloud. Would like to see what unity is [02:08] it works here [02:08] the 6/8 iso works btw..Does this one already has the unity interface? [02:52] ubuntu sucks [02:52] mininessie: thanks for letting us know [02:53] if you can be more specific, bugs are filed using the "ubuntu-bug" command. thanks [02:53] install fedora [03:11] maco: I believe it is time to switch distro. [03:11] IdleOne: but mini suggested one that uses yum! if im goin anywhere its debian [03:12] Ubuntu is based off Debian. Logic dictates that Debian would suck also. [03:12] You can't argue that kind of logic [03:12] sure one can [03:13] patdk-lap: ok, you can but would be wrong :P [03:13] [03:30] wait, ubuntu sucks, and the solution to this problem is to install fedora??? [03:31] isn't that a bit like preventing future fires by burning down the forest? [03:34] yes thats it [03:37] install opensuse? [04:33] A2 reboot is dropping to initramfs..Fatal: error inserting btrfs. Unknown symbol in module or unknown parameter [04:33] using btrfs? [04:34] ya, missing crc32c from initramfs [04:34] any fix? [04:34] ya, add crc32c.ko to the initrd file [04:35] how? [04:35] I so dont have time to hold your hand to do that [04:35] why it's alpha :) [04:35] and not stable :) [04:35] google is your friend [04:42] patdk-lap: partitions are not encrypted [04:42] what? [04:42] what the hell does encryption have to do with anything? === Yahweh is now known as poutine [07:01] Yo yo yo +1 [07:03] hi [07:07] g'day guys [07:09] Yo Fudge [07:21] im wondering if my speech components of my system are going to fall over with maverick [07:21] opentts epech-dispatcher orca voxin speakup etc [07:32] how do u tell apt-get to install packages that are kept back? [07:32] if they are held back, it usually means it failed for your arch [07:33] failed to build* [07:33] oh, 64 [07:33] try again later and they should be available [07:34] 249 not upgraded [07:34] ok [07:35] that'll happen a lot in development releases [07:44] i just thought something wasnt working right on my box [07:45] like had to take out the lucid repos in sources list or something [07:49] oops it does that already :$ [07:50] yup :) [07:50] or at least it's supposed to === Laibcoms is now known as Laibcoms-XMPP === Laibcoms-XMPP is now known as laibcoms [08:45] :D my bad [10:07] hello [10:07] will 10.10 have a less hideous color theme? [11:54] has there been any X updates today? [11:54] my machine is soooooooooooooooooooooooo slow [11:54] its making me cry [11:54] or throw it out of the window [11:55] you don't check what updates are being installed? [11:58] is maverick meerkat going to be less ugly? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [12:00] I also hope there is a bit of an improvement but at this stage it looks the same to me [12:03] Dat001: I'd content myself with a somewhat more palatable theme [12:03] that starry pink thing is an eyesore [12:05] cousin_mario: s/ugly/pinky/ [12:06] tsimpson: usually I do... but today is not a good day... and ofc murphy law seems to have bitten me [12:06] BUGabundo_remote: pinky is a subset of ugly [12:07] funny enough, your notices here show in pink [12:07] LOL [12:07] oh the irony [12:08] for some reason, I suppose this: 13:08:39 [freenode] CTCP VERSION reply from BUGabundo_remote: Purple IRC [12:09] is to blame === vivid` is now known as vivid [13:51] Are there any WebM capable players in Maverick yet? Totem, VLC and GNOME MPlayer all don't work. [13:52] I though the latest VLC release included WebM support by default, but maybe I was wrong. [13:53] Rythembox doesnt? yes i fairly sure i spelled it wrong. im pre coffee [13:53] Rhythmbox is using GStreamer, just as Totem, right? [13:53] and can Rhythmbox play video? [13:55] Maybe VLC needs some compiler flags enabled to depend in libvpx [14:02] I think the latest cairo screwed up some rendering in chromium === Airgrce is now known as Airgrace === gordon is now known as Guest30228 === villemv is now known as villev [17:19] dopes anyone else have problems with evolutions message filters? [17:20] they don't seem to work on imap for me.. [17:25] Hi [17:52] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1542599/desktopsplit.png my IM screen [18:21] ok, has ubuntu 10.10 alpha 2 forgotten to ship aptitude with it?!?!?! [18:22] td123: you have to install it with apt-get obviously :-( [18:22] ofc, but aptitude was always there by default [18:22] has ubuntu decided that it doesn't need aptitude? [18:24] !info aptitude maverick [18:24] aptitude (source: aptitude): terminal-based package manager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.11.11-1ubuntu10 (maverick), package size 1510 kB, installed size 9712 kB [18:24] td123: its still available but "optional" now [18:24] They decided it wasn't worth the 3 MB of packages it brought on to the CD, when apt-get and graphical package managers are already there [18:26] so they decided to make more room for backgrounds ... I'm glad it has it's proirities straight XD [18:26] um, yeah. no. I never said it was for backgrounds [18:27] I know you didn't say that [18:27] td123: or maybe it was for for another mono based app :D [18:27] cortex|sk: hopefully not :P [18:31] oh well, I really liked aptitude, time to get used to apt-get again :P [18:31] err. apt-* [18:32] or just sudo apt-get install aptitude and live life normally? :P [18:32] doesnt mono get dropped in this release? [18:37] JontheEchidna: nah, I don't like to use non-default tools [18:38] td123: if a tool moves from "default" to "optional" that doesn't mean it is less usable or less supported [18:43] lol :D [18:43] td123: the purpose of a repository is using stuff that is not preinstalled [18:55] ya, but I like using the preinstalled stuff [18:55] lol [19:00] was that about aptitude? [19:00] I thought Maverick would be based on gnome 2.30, but I see that applications like Evolution are still on 2.30.2, while Empathy is 2.31.3. Is this just temporary, or will Maverick stick with older software? [19:01] I mean I thought it would be based on gnome 2.32/3.0. [19:02] It will do a migration which should be done in two realease I think, is the plan.. [19:03] There were some flames (~) about that on the gnome mailing list iirc... [19:04] yeah i was wondering too why some packages aren'T updated [19:20] gnome-shell --replace doesnt work hmm, could not load /usr/lib/mutter/plugins/libgnome-shell.so [19:20] any ideas? its netbook edition of maverick alpha2 [19:22] iddo: as far as I know, your not really meant to run gnome-shell on the netbook edition [19:23] i logged into normal gnome session before trying [19:23] i mean with gnome-panel etc. [19:24] iddo: Thats got replaced or going to get replaced as far as I know, since Unity [19:25] iddo: basically Unity or nothing for the netbook edition [19:28] iddo: I have only briefly tried netbook edition in vm, however I know that at the moment users can get the normal Gnome, but probably not soon? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/600567 [19:28] Launchpad bug 600567 in unity (Ubuntu) "Unity does not provide a non-3D fallback" [High,Won't fix] [19:35] well, both unity and gnome-shell are 3d, using mutter and clutter [19:41] what is non 3d? you have cpu emulation for OpenGL in X... [20:37] I knew there was something in todays updates [20:37] machine is slow [20:37] now has an all new icon desing [20:45] BUGabundo: The screenshot you linked to earlier, was sort of interesting, altough I don't know why you linked to that. [20:46] bha [20:46] that was debian unstable [20:46] with a really bad theme [20:46] oh [20:46] running pidgin and gwibber of my laptop [20:46] with maverick, over SSH [20:46] oh [20:46] NX was kiling me... [20:46] since the X is slow, NX was crawling to the point apps over SSH were faster [20:46] go figure [20:47] BUGabundo: Have you done 10.10 with btrfs/ [20:47] ? [20:47] no [20:47] stock ext4 [20:48] in a single partition [20:48] what you mean stock? [20:48] BUGabundo: I reported that btrfs problem yesterday [20:49] Anyway this morning I downloaded the alternate and installed into a vm, but [20:49] something went wrong [20:49] woudn't put Grub 2 on. I had done /boot in Ext4 and / in btrfs [20:49] yeah [20:49] patdk-wk: found the same prob [20:49] BUGabundo: h00k 's or mine? [20:50] btrfs on boot failing [20:50] damn it this new theme SUCKS [20:50] BUGabundo: new theme? [20:50] its dark with light boxes [20:50] hmm [20:50] who the heck hit the head in the wall?? [20:50] my computer informed me poeple where talking of me [20:51] BUGabundo: uhmm I thought the 10.04 new themes sucked, well black one was sort of ok, except for ugly window borders, and FIrefox looking uh [20:51] anyway my vm something about Grub 2 not being able to install to target [20:52] I'm here for btrfs, not grub2 :) [20:52] patdk-wk: well I tried to do btrfs in vm this morning, but see above [20:53] I wonder what will happen if I do the netbook version in vm. 1. no propritary driver installed on the host OS for nivida. 2. Unity wants propritary driver working first [20:53] so I guess it would look like before or something without Unity [20:54] patdk-wk: as for btrfs Fedora has had it for quite a while now [20:55] * patdk-wk wonders what fedora has to do with anything? [20:55] * patdk-wk leaves, talking to sebsebseb is useless [20:56] bug 600846 [20:56] Launchpad bug 600846 in linux (Ubuntu) "[STAGING] btrfs performance on SSD 2.6.35-6.9-generic" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/600846 [20:56] * patdk-wk has no issues with btrfs root :) [20:56] * patdk-wk doesnt have ssd though [20:58] I am using btrfs root with /boot on ext2 [21:31] anyone seeing wierd colors in images with firefox? [21:52] hello [21:52] when is k3b 2.0 coming to Lucid? [21:54] Roey: this channel is for maverick - please ask in about lucid in #ubuntu - but usually versions don't get upgraded on a released version [21:54] that's what I figured [21:54] it's just that k3b 1.91 is the latest one ofr Lucid, and it itself is old (the k3b 1.x is on 1.93, which fixes a serious bug with m3u files) [22:21] hey billybigrigger billy [22:21] not in firefox [22:21] everywhere else: YES [22:22] * David-T recommends less acid [22:46] BUGabundo, sup [22:46] BUGabundo, i get it only in firefox [22:46] almost like the nvidia -1000 hue bug all over again [22:46] but everything isn't blue [22:48] ahaha [22:48] to me it's the icons and theme [22:48] its all whitish