[01:23] nhandler: ping [02:01] kermiac: ping [02:32] newboon2age_: !pong [02:32] stlsaint: pong [02:33] duanedesign: pong [02:34] haha... [02:34] howdy everyone :) [02:40] helllooo kermiac [02:40] hey duanedesign, how are you going today? [02:41] been slow in #ubuntuone lately. Everyone busy doing something? [02:43] duanedesign: yeah, beuno said something about them sprinting for the next couple of weeks... I don't know any more than that though [02:43] kermiac: that makes sense [02:48] duanedesign: what do you use to record/sound record [02:59] can someone help me setup a static ip? [02:59] every time I try the internet stops working... [03:00] only dhcp works [03:34] * stlsaint is heading back to the wave! :D === compiledkernel is now known as Guest54712 [04:42] so, i tried asking for help several times on #ubuntu, but apparently my problem is not interesting enough to warrant much of a response [04:43] got an acer aspire one, trying to install ubuntu netbook remix 9.10 on it. i made a bootable USB, but it pretty much does nothing when i try to either boot it live, or just install straight up [04:46] Could you elaborate on «does nothing» ? [04:47] packrat: did you run an md5sum on the iso to make sure it's not corrupt? [04:47] yup [04:47] as for "does nothing" it will boot to the first menu in the live cd image [04:48] where you select boot live, install straight up, or check for image corruption [04:48] it doesn't respond at that menu? [04:48] it does [04:48] but when i select either live boot or install, a few seconds later a whitish ubuntu logo will appear, and then it disappears, and nothing happens [04:49] usb and SSD drive both do not show any activity [04:49] even had it sit overnight after i selected install [04:49] strange...have you tried re-creating the bootable USB? [04:49] several times [04:50] hm..you might have more luck with 10.04. is there a reason you want to use 9.10? [04:51] though unfortunately i dont have much variability in usb drives, since i pretty much just tote around a couple USB micro vault tinys and thats it [04:51] i chopse 9.10 mostly because https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne/Ubuntu9.10#ZG5%20%288+8/SSD%29 [04:51] seems to indicate really minimal problems [04:52] chose* [04:53] packrat: i beg to differ! 10.04 is great plus its a LTS! [04:53] lts? [04:53] ah, ok. well it could possibly by the usb drive, i know i have one that doesn't work for booting ubuntu and one that does. but yah, 10.04 should work just as well as 9.10 at this point, hopefully even better [04:53] cool beans [04:53] LTS = Long Term Support [04:54] it gets updates longer than a standard release [04:54] so trying 10.04 is a place to start :) [04:54] What program did you use to make the usb? [04:54] the one that comes with the disk [04:55] i wonder, though, whether it might be related to the fact that i ran it off of win7 x64 [04:56] anyways, dl-ing 10.04 now. will give it a try [04:57] a lot of people use unetbootin as well. i haven't tried it, but that's another possible solution [04:59] I can't think of any obvious reasons why it won't work. It booted one the first try for me on my AAO [05:00] alternatively, i did manage to find the aao recover disc image, but it comes in a .gz format and im not sure how i could make a usb drive out of that [05:00] in windoes [05:10] packrat: there are some known issues listed on the wiki. [05:10] packrat: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick [05:12] "The 9.10 CDs and DVDs are missing the usb-creator.exe program used by the Windows installation processes discussed below. " [05:12] thats interesting, considering there is a program in the disc image called "usb-creator.exe" [05:12] «If you just get a black screen when running from USB, using the setting "Discarded on shutdown, unless you save them elsewhere" in usb-creator might help. Forum: 9.10 NBR issues» [05:13] That sounds like your issue. [05:13] derp === bgs100 is now known as msbot [05:13] packrat: they must have fixed the missing usb-creator.exe [05:13] :D === msbot is now known as bgs100 [05:14] well, im playing with DSL while im waiting for the dl. thanks. my google-fu is weak [05:14] packrat: i wonder if that should be updated , or left for people that might have an old verison [05:15] incidentally, is WPA2 supported on 10.04 [05:15] ? [05:15] yes [05:15] woot [05:16] assuming that's what the wireless i'm using right now is encoded with (and i'm 95% sure it is) [05:26] Guest54712: trouble with your connection ? [05:27] 1 sec then ill ask my question [05:27] not enough time [05:27] HURRY! [05:27] (i jest) [05:28] :) [05:31] well, thats dandy. start installing ubuntu netbook, and it says "can not mount /dev/loop1 on /cow [05:31] " [05:32] looks like its asking me to mount a filesystem [05:32] uh oh, the apt cow can't be mounted :( [05:32] but what does that mean [05:32] * packrat avalanches [05:33] i'd say to run 'apt-get moo' but you can't yet...darn [05:33] :I [05:34] ha, that's a new emoticon :D [05:34] then youll love this one [05:34] >:I [05:35] alright, but in all seriousness, i'm not sure what /dev/loop1 and /cow are :/ [05:35] damn [05:37] if i click enter, the input prompt reads: (initramfs) [05:38] i'm guessing you ran an md5sum again? [05:38] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1306277 seems to have some folks having a similar problem [05:38] packrat: choose "discarded on shutdown, unless you save them elsewhwere" [05:38] yeah, that :) [05:38] hrm [05:39] :) [05:39] ok, ill give it a shot in a bit [05:41] yah, this says the same thing: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1334949 === compiledkernel is now known as Guest92580 [05:52] ok sorry but a new baby in the house takes presadence over all other [05:53] so i have a few question and hopefully you guys can help [05:54] first question is why will my ubuntu 10.4 lucid [05:54] needs a verb there [05:54] see my cd rom at times and other i cant mount it it dont even show up in file manager [05:54] i mean disk utilities [05:55] also, anyone have thoughts on how best to partition a 16gb ssd for UNR? [05:58] can anyone help me with this as im sure this is a beginners problem [06:00] needpieceofmind: that is odd. Are these different CD's? [06:01] needpieceofmind: oh i see. The device is not showing up under disk utilities [06:02] packrat: For such a small drive, I'd just put / on the whole drive, plus a little swap partition. [06:02] yeah, thats what i ended up doing [06:03] And then /home on an expansion card, if you have one, but ... [06:03] hopefully ext4 isnt buggy [06:03] ive... heard things... you know [06:03] also i love how they give the reiser fs as an option [06:03] needpieceofmind: i wonder if it shows up if you run this command in the Terminal (Applications > Accessories > Terminal) sudo lshw -C disk [06:03] which i too have... heard things... about [06:04] On my AAO, with 9.10, suspend and hibernation fails if the card in the expansion slot is mounted. Don't know if that has been fixed yet though. [06:04] packrat: ext4 is fine [06:04] yeah, i read about that. i think ill be fine with the 16gb ive got on this thing [06:04] its not really going to do any heavty lifting anyways [06:04] no matlab :P [06:05] It's great for playing nethack ;) [06:05] haha [06:18] how do i scan for available wireless networks in UNR 10.04? [06:23] is there not a network manager applet [06:23] packrat: you can use the following command in a Terminal: sudo iwlist scan [06:24] duanedesign no it doesnt but when i ran that in term it popped the drives up in disk util [06:25] apparently xterm doesnt allow me to scroll up [06:25] laaame [06:25] ok now i ran the command again and it shows up in the list [06:29] @duanedesign once u run the sudo iwlist scan how do u connect to them [06:34] needpieceofmind: you can click on the network manager applet and select a network there. If it is not listed, use the connect to hidden network [06:36] ok 1 sec trying now [06:36] also System > Preferences > Network Connections [06:39] do i put anything in the bssid box and how do u use connect to hidden network [06:43] thank you so much for your help as i am finally connected [06:43] woot! [06:43] and now my cdrom and flash drive are both there and in disk util to so thank you everyone but time to shut this ol p.o.s down and start playin with ubuntu and learning [06:44] needpieceofmind: good luck :) [06:48] oh yeah, UNR is running smoothly now on my AAO, many thanks [06:50] packrat: good to hear :) [06:51] got a shitload of updates though. :\ [06:51] i would have hoped they'd keep the images a bit up to date on this stuff [06:52] There'll probably be a 10.04.1 release soon, in which case the UNR image should be updated too. [06:53] needpieceofmind: glad you got it [06:53] packrat: yeah the updates after installation can be big [06:53] downloading all 285 megs of updates so atm im still on this till that upto par 'but thank you [06:54] needpieceofmind: heh, you too [06:54] is there a way to tell at what speed ur connected [06:55] you can test in a browser, or if you're downloading updates in a terminal it'll tell you have fast the connection is [06:55] needpieceofmind: might look at iftop [06:56] sudo apt-get install iftop then sudo iftop to run [06:56] it showed up just a lil usto xp still wouldnt convert to vista so its all new learning [06:57] where might be a good place to start learning terminal commands [06:57] the beginners manual goes over some basic ones i think :) [06:58] http://ubuntu-manual.org/ [06:58] ty ddecator [06:59] some linux command cheatsheets http://www.nixtutor.com/linux/all-the-best-linux-cheat-sheets/ [06:59] oh that's a good one.. [07:00] needpieceofmind: an a-z index of BASH commands http://ss64.com/bash/ [07:00] so is that one [07:00] morning hobgoblin [07:00] im at nixtutor now but is security still a major issue for ubuntu like it is all ms products [07:00] heya hobgoblin :) [07:01] needpieceofmind: I found the best way to learn commands was use them as I needed them - you tend to remember if you actually need things to be fixed [07:01] morning duanedesign ddecator [07:01] iceflatline: if you are there - nvidia did not fail badly with the new kernel :) [07:01] needpieceofmind: there are always some security issues in software, but linux is affected by a LOT less viruses, malware, etc. [07:02] hob i just need sumwhere to start and as i am i will play around with it and learn them as i go but with per say a kick in the but [07:02] ubuntu probably the most vulnerable of the linux flavors though [07:02] due to popularity [07:02] that figures [07:03] still probably safer than windows or mac [07:03] it definitely is [07:03] hope doing movies is as easy and fast [07:03] still a good idea to use a firewall though :) [07:03] needpieceofmind: if you have the resources - disk space and ram - I would install ubuntu to a virtual machine - then you can set snapshots, play away as much as you like and not need to reinstall the 'real' install if you completely break it [07:04] hobgoblin, your nvidia works good now? [07:04] tenach: it always did - I just read and heard some failures with the new kernel [07:04] well im wireless and behind 2 routers so i think i safer for firewall aspect [07:04] Ah. [07:04] i haven't had issues with -23.. [07:04] Before the newest kernel update, I could not use my 6800 :S [07:05] ddecator: some have - and some still are [07:05] tenach: really - I have a 6* something on the media server - works fine [07:05] hobgoblin: glad i'm not one of them, i was hesitant to update already [07:05] whats better gnome or kde or is that just a preference thing [07:05] hobgoblin, yeah, I couldn't get it to work so I am using my wife's ati :( [07:05] packrat: vulnerable? in what way? [07:06] needpieceofmind, I would say preference in that. Give both a look at :) I am still going to give KDE a look at again, since I haven't really ever kept it around very long. [07:06] packrat: not at all to speak of that i can see. [07:06] vulnerable in the sense that virus writers will give ubuntu more attention than most other distros [07:07] poor poor tenach and having to use a ATi card :( [07:07] all theoretical, i guess [07:07] packrat: don't see any of that so far [07:07] still very few in numbers overall. security issues in browsers and in flash are more of a problem than viruses [07:07] whats a good browser instead of ff as i dont much care for it [07:08] speaking of... looks like the youtubs are supported oob [07:08] arent* [07:08] wait for FF 4 :) [07:08] and it and adobe have alot of issues [07:09] sadly, it really doesnt seem like html5 and apple are going to win this battle [07:09] html5??? [07:10] webm is doing good on youtube [07:10] uh, yeah, its up to html5, right? [07:10] and i apologize if i seem like a pain in da butt with all my question but i am a complete n00b as this was all a spurt of the moment switch [07:10] packrat: i wouldn't count out html5 or apple. not yet. [07:11] needpieceofmind: we're here to answer questions :) [07:11] well, yeah, that was my point [07:11] flash is just way too undeservedly popular [07:11] its cause its compact and simple [07:12] like php [07:12] well thats no so much on the simple side [07:12] packrat: well other technologies have been wildly popular but it doesn't stop there being viable competitors. [07:12] haha [07:12] not sure how compact php is, either [07:13] who/what has gave flash a run for its money [07:13] packrat: flash for one took a very long time to take off. It would only take google (who owns youtube) to decide to support something else and all of a sudden the whole picture would change. [07:14] oh its compact if you look at the amount of coding you have to do in it compared to java or even html cause it can handle crons and so much more [07:14] I loves me php [07:14] thats very true newboon [07:15] tenach u a php junkie with sum coding experience in mmorpgs [07:15] and now i can get my irc fix on the run [07:15] text based [07:16] In coding php-based mmorpgs? [07:16] stuff like the common mafia browser games [07:16] point and click and time limits [07:16] alot of cron jobs [07:17] games for example are o-game,omerta,mafia wars [07:17] Ah. I worked briefly on one, but they're really not my cuppa. [07:18] farmville? [07:18] lulz [07:18] might i ask what it is as i loves me php to and have just gotten into making a game to kill time [07:18] farmville is satan in digital format [07:18] believe u me it had me hooked for a long time [07:18] farmville is just Lawnmowing 2.0 [07:19] lol so whats frontierville then [07:19] those were the days though. f yeah clouds of xeen [07:19] needpieceofmind, I am not fond of the click and wait games like pretty much any/all games that have touched facebook/made by zynga. [07:19] lmao [07:19] aqh ok [07:20] I've been working on a browser-based client for a MUD style rpg though. [07:20] ooooooooooh [07:20] html/javascript for the front end with php being called via the js, server running in python. [07:20] very nice [07:21] thinking ur a LOT MORE ADVANCED then myself [07:22] anyone have any ideas how to recover some pictures i lost due to doing a fresh install of ubuntu? === Akos is now known as Puck` [07:23] needpieceofmind, I wouldn't necessarily say that I'm more advanced. Perhaps I have just spent a long time on this hobby/project off and on. [07:26] lol ok i can accept that [07:27] so which swf player should i install? [07:27] So, I gather that you are looking to make a browser game? [07:27] got adobe, swfdec, and gnash [07:27] adobe [07:27] I just go with adobe [07:27] gnash and swfdec don't perform nearly as well [07:28] i made one and didnt like it the coding was all jumbulled so im starting from scrath and doin it [07:28] Ahh, cool. [07:28] :D [07:28] does ubuntu have vlc play [07:28] player* [07:28] needpieceofmind, yes. [07:29] needpieceofmind, you can find it in the software center [07:29] yeah i been at it for about 6 months now [07:29] ok i think im prolly go hey wire once it gets done updating [07:29] or you can just apt-get install vlc [07:29] :D [07:30] lol i will do it like that [07:31] wanna learn this the right way not be a lazy iterface user [07:33] wow how do u make urself root [07:33] sudo [07:33] all you need to do is sudo [07:33] just tried apt-get install vlc [07:33] making yourself root is dangerous. [07:33] sudo apt-get isntall vlc [07:33] Hai MadameTock [07:33] install* [07:34] lol i forgot the sudo [07:39] well i didnt realize its so later here so time for bed for me since the kid is sleeping and work come awful ealry [07:39] exit [07:39] #quit [07:40] Hai tenach === compiledkernel is now known as Guest3190 [08:27] packrat: oh, here's a point in your favor for now at least re: flash YouTube Says HTML5 Not Ready for Prime Time http://www.technewsworld.com/story/70333.html [08:28] oh, i wasnt exactly arguing that flash is great or anything [08:28] packrat: course if they changed there mind tomorrow, it'd be a big sea shift... [08:28] i was just saying, with the way things are currently, flash wont be dropped any time even remotely soon [08:28] packrat: no, i understood you were talking about entrenched in the market tek. it is for now... [08:28] oh [10:38] In my homedir there is a folder called "Updater". What is this folder used for? It is empty? Is it safe to delete it? Why is it created? And by what? [10:39] Same with the Templates folder. [10:40] tdn, no idea, I dont have one. Is it a hidden file? [10:40] Not a hidden file. [10:40] tdn I have templates and it is empty [10:40] philinux, what is it for, and how do I use it? [10:41] If it's called Updater I've not come across this [10:42] Is this lucid lynx [10:42] This is Kubuntu lucid. [10:43] tdn, Ah well it maybe a default folder for Kubuntu. [10:44] Ok. [10:46] tdn, If it's empty and not .updater then You could remove it. [10:46] Even removing .files has no serious effect as apps recreate them when run to set the default settings [10:47] Apart from removing say .mozilla. You would loose all bookmarks etc [10:47] philinux: the effect of losing ones settings might be serious to some people.. [10:47] oCean of course but it dont bork your system [10:47] I agree oCean_ [10:50] Nice to see the forums back to normal. I got a holiday from moderating yesterday lol. [10:51] Ok. [10:51] philinux, what forum? [10:51] ubuntuforums.org [10:52] All of them were borked yesterday [10:56] I imagine you are having fun removing / merging duplicate posts [10:57] Silver_fox, There was a lot of spam to clear up too. I did a few last night but I guess the guys on the night shift fixed most. I'm UK based [10:57] Yes, I noticed you are :) [10:58] As am I [10:58] :) [11:01] Hows the weather in the North East? Brightened up here at last [11:01] ^ philinux ^ [11:01] Sorry, North West [11:01] I'm Lancashire - not bad, blue skies returning [11:02] Lancashire... M61 [11:03] Well, I am currently residing in the midlands [11:09] hi Silver_Fox_ (: [11:10] Hey Puck` , on the air today ? [11:10] Silver_Fox_: not today, that was a test you saw on Twitter, if you saw it there (: [11:10] Indeed I did [11:11] :) [11:11] Silver_Fox_: I finally took on ajax, and did this: http://listen.xtradio.org/top.php It's all ajax so it updates automatically (: [11:11] Great, glad you finally did it :) [11:11] mm ya :P it's great now the ideas are flooding me :P [11:12] I have been doing some dev work myself using google maps and ajax. Would you like to see ? [11:13] Silver_Fox_: oh of course [11:15] Puck`, http://serial-coder.co.uk/blog/roadtrip.htm . Click on the marker furthest on the right [11:15] Then you will be able to click a thumbnail... [11:15] I shall say no more :) [11:16] oh oh this is nice :D [11:16] The gallary can also be controlled with the keyboard :) [11:17] Left and Right keys to nav. X will close it [11:17] Silver_Fox_: it makes you wonder why this isn't made by default [11:19] Thanks Puck` . [11:19] Well, as for default i am not sure. [11:19] The windows are left blank by google on purpose. That leaves it very flexible [11:20] I would also state that it is still not finished. I have overlays to add and more images [11:21] Looks pretty good so far [11:22] Hey tenach , nice to see you about this early. How are things ? [11:22] And thanks [11:22] Things are alright. Very tired. [11:22] Yes, I can imagine [11:24] Thinking about getting to bed tenach ? [11:24] Silver_Fox_: this thing is awesome, I could image such a wordpress plugin (hint hint) [11:24] Very subtle Puck` [11:24] ;) [11:24] :D [11:25] Yeah. [11:25] I am. [11:25] hi tenach (: [11:25] Hello Puck` === mohi1 is now known as mohi57o9 [12:38] morning all [12:39] o/ [12:41] \o [12:44] \o/ [12:47] /o\ [12:48] \o/ [12:48] | [12:48] /\ [12:48] Damn [12:48] fail :P [12:48] So close... [12:48] \o/ [12:49] | [12:49] /\ [12:49] aww fail [12:49] Well, quite enough of this game anyway. This is supposed to be a support channel [12:50] (\__/) [12:50] And its been v. busy ;) [12:50] =] [12:50] Fun and games to #ubuntu-beginners-team [12:50] Someone's bored lol [13:02] Oh surrrrrrrrre [13:02] now you want me back [13:02] :/ [13:03] packrat, come back [13:03] aww sorry paultag* [13:03] packrat? [13:03] >:D [13:03] Kinda like that name [13:03] >:( [13:03] Everything okay paultag ? [13:03] Silver_Fox_: sure, how are you? [13:03] Thinking about lunch, apart from that not bad [13:04] :) [13:04] :) [13:04] * mohi57o9 says he will never use bash with paultag :/ [13:06] mohi57o9: hahaha [13:26] hello .. plz help me with http://imagebin.org/103792 any 1 ? [13:27] Thats ntfs [13:27] its bad ? [13:27] Windows wont boot? [13:27] ya :( [13:28] What does it say, any error messages [13:28] nothing .. black screen with just a blinking small cursor [13:29] Machine does POST ok? [13:29] i have CD HD Floppy boot sequence .. yes does post ok but when sees no cd to boot , goes to hard drive to boot and then nothing .. black screen [13:29] no error message nothing .. so i boot in ubuntu to do something .. it wont let me install ubuntu either [13:30] Ah was this a wubi install [13:30] i am not well aware of many phrases .. wubi ? [13:30] Did you install ubuntu inside windows with wubi [13:31] no .. i have booted from live CD .. old one but bootable [13:31]