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cjwatsonjdong: don't know, please try with ubiquity --debug and send me /var/log/syslog and /var/log/installer/debug (before rebooting)00:01
jdongok, will do00:01
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BsimsIs there a way to automaticaly tell apt/synaptic to automatically download all -dev packages for all libraries?00:34
robert_ancelldoes anyone know the safe way to compile with warning flags (-Wall etc) in automake.  i.e. that will work with other compilers?00:35
cjwatsonrobert_ancell: see man-db/m4/man-gcc-warning.m4 for one possible approach00:38
robert_ancellcjwatson, thanks00:38
cjwatsonrobert_ancell: actually, there's a more polished version in gnulib, gl_WARN_ADD00:39
cjwatsonm4/warnings.m400:39
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BsimsIs there a way to automaticaly tell apt/synaptic to automatically download all -dev packages for all libraries? I build some things from source and it would save the ./configure, growl, apt-get, repeat dance00:42
RAOFBsims: There is not, but have you tried “aptitude build-dep $PACKAGE”?  For packages in the archive that will get you all the necessary dependencies.00:43
johanbrBsims, you could try "sudo apt-get install $(dpkg -l |awk '$2 ~ /.*-dev$/{print $2}')"00:43
RAOFIt would be a relatively easy thing to script if you really wanted to, though. johanbr's one liner is a good start.00:43
BsimsRAOF: its not in the archive is the problem00:43
Bsimsjohanbr: Yeah I thought something like that00:44
* Bsims grins now what I'd love to bluesky is a metapackage or option to synaptic/Ubuntu Software Center for that00:44
BsimsThanks00:49
* hallyn needs an ubuntu install cd to install on his 10 year old laptop that won't boot usb :) drat, cds are so 5 years ago that i have no blanks01:13
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mathiazsmoser: hey!01:54
mathiazsmoser: I looked at the landscape-client SRU - it's already been uploaded to -proposed01:54
smoserugh01:55
smosersorry to have wasted your time01:55
smoserwhen was it uploaded ?01:55
mathiazsmoser: however it still sits in the queue because one of the bug is not a proper SRU01:55
smoserugh.  it would have been nice if someone would have mentioned that in the bug rather than just ignoring01:55
mathiazsmoser: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=01:55
mathiazsmoser: it actually is mentioned in the bug 59700001:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 597000 in landscape-client (Ubuntu Karmic) "get_active_interfaces reports duplicated interfaces" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59700001:56
mathiazsmoser: https://bugs.launchpad.net/landscape-client/+bug/597000/comments/401:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 597000 in landscape-client (Ubuntu Karmic) "get_active_interfaces reports duplicated interfaces" [High,New]01:57
mathiazsmoser: so I've assigned free from the landscape team to look at that01:57
mathiazsmoser: and turn the bug into a proper SRU01:57
mathiazsmoser: the issue comes from the fact there were 2 uploads to -proposed01:57
smoseryeah.01:57
smosersorry.01:57
smoseri was just sheparding :-(01:58
mathiazsmoser: which always makes things a little bit more complicated01:58
mathiazsmoser: I understand - no worries ;)01:58
ScottKLaney: Anyone can set verification done.  To the extent you find the wiki confusing on this point, please fix it.01:58
pooliethat would make us doll-wigglers02:23
lifelessQA is hard, lets drink beer.02:23
RAOFThey're actually absolute imports; simply dropping the leading ‘.’ works fine.02:23
RAOFpoolie: I'm OK with that, as long as they're daemonic dolls.02:23
pooliei think there should be no dot there02:24
RAOFIt *does* work without the dot, yes.02:24
pooliewow it's all over the place02:25
* RAOF didn't find an upstream bug before moving on to other things.02:25
RAOFYeah.  All the imports are faux-relative.02:26
RAOFI should probably have documented that on the bug. :)02:26
poolieperhaps upstream tested it from inside a source directory so it found a different module02:26
pooliethough that still doesn't seem like it would work02:26
poolieoh, perhaps i duped your bug?02:26
pooliei just filed this one02:26
pooliei also filed https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hamster-applet/+bug/600855 but it may have the same root cause02:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 600855 in hamster-applet (Ubuntu) "no panel icon for hamster applet" [Undecided,New]02:27
RAOFYup.  They'll have the same root cause, and are both duplicates of…02:27
pooliewhat's worse is without hamster i can't track how much time i'm spending on this yak :-)02:27
RAOF:)02:29
RAOFAh.  Of bug #599654, which apport has helpfully marked private.02:29
ubottuBug 599654 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/599654 is private02:29
RAOFHm.  According to bug #596072 it works in git master?02:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 596072 in hamster-applet (Ubuntu) "hamster-applet crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59607202:31
pooliei wonder if we have an import branch02:35
RAOFShall I leave you to work out what's what?  I can upload if you need a fix sponsored.02:35
poolieok02:35
pooliethose import statements still seem to be present in our branch of it02:39
lifelessmerge-upstream time probably02:39
pooliei mean in our import branch of their master branch, which seems to be up to date02:40
lifelessoh02:40
lifelesshttp://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0366/02:42
lifelesshttp://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0328/ is the main relative import PEP02:43
poolieyay, fixed02:55
RAOFHuzzah!02:56
poolieraof can you take it from here? sponsor an upload or something03:04
RAOFpoolie: Absolutely.  Where's the fix?03:04
pooliehttps://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mbp/ubuntu/maverick/hamster-applet/600857-imports/+merge/2904603:05
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pittiGood morning07:03
dholbachgood morning07:03
ajmitchhi07:03
pooliehi there07:03
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ricotzpitti, good morning, please don't care about if i am opening this bug again this isnt an ubuntu bug and slipped into the changelog https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/docky/+bug/50448608:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 504486 in Docky "Writer in the dock is calc " [Low,Fix released]08:09
pittiricotz: ah, ok; no problem08:09
pittiI just thought it was an oversight, since "incomplete" for a fixed bug seems strange08:09
ricotzpitti, yes and this bug is a bit strange, thanks for accepting docky08:12
pittithanks for all the testing08:12
dupondjeSome archive admin that can accept https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/opal/+bug/600121 ?08:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 600121 in opal (Ubuntu) "Sync opal 3.6.8~dfsg-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed]08:22
mvocjwatson: I had a "unaligned pointer 0xxxxx" error this morning in maverick at boot, I fixed it via grub-install /dev/sda. I don't boot the system often so I can not say with 100% certainty what version may have caused it. let me know if I should provide more info or a bugreport please08:23
pittilool: (reading liblauncher-0.1 changelog); we don't need a quilt b-dep for 3.0 packages08:25
loolpitti: Oh right08:26
loolpitti: Pushed to lp:ubuntu branch08:27
pittinot a biggie, but merci08:28
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dupondjedholbach: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=56907708:34
ubottuDebian bug 569077 in linuxtv-dvb-apps "dvb-apps: missing channel for es-Sevilla" [Normal,Open]08:34
dholbachdupondje: is debian upstream for that package?08:35
dholbachdupondje: or who is the author of it?08:35
dupondjelinuxtv itself08:35
dupondjegoing to check to make a bugreport there08:35
dholbachthanks a bunch dupondje08:35
cjwatsonmvo: debconf-show grub-pc | grep install_devices08:49
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mvocjwatson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/458198/08:51
cjwatsonmvo: and no dialog on upgrade or anything?08:54
cjwatsonmvo: that's very odd, it ought to have run grub-install for you08:55
mvocjwatson: let me check my log, I don't reboot the machine much, its quite likely that this happend a couple of days ago, I did however upgrade to the latest grub-pc this morning (before grub-install /dev/sda) and got no dialog and no fix08:55
mvocjwatson: let me check the apt/term.log08:55
mvocjwatson: here is what I have in the logs related to grub http://paste.ubuntu.com/458201/ - I can upload the full logs too if that is helpful09:01
cjwatsonmvo: ah, this is Debian #586143 then09:28
ubottuDebian bug 586143 in grub-pc "Doesn't boot: Unaligned pointer 4c191bea" [Critical,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/58614309:28
cjwatsonmvo: as in, same cause - you have leftovers of a GRUB Legacy upgrade still around09:28
cjwatsonmvo: next upload will fix it, so just don't do anything for now and you can test that process :-)09:28
cjwatsonmvo: mind you, having lupin-support installed probably isn't helping either - is this a Wubi install?09:29
mvocjwatson: ok, I will not touch it and wait for the next upload :) the lupin thing is a leftover from a hardy->lucid upgrade issue triggered by lupin (the infinite loop bug)09:31
mvocjwatson: I installed it then to check it out but forgot to remove it again09:32
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cjwatsonmvo: lupin-support is harmless, actually, looking at it09:58
cjwatsonit does divert grub-install, but the diversion just chains through to the real one if wubildr doesn't exist09:58
ogradoes anyone know from the top of their head where udevd writes its queue file ?10:12
* ogra would suspect in /dev 10:12
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ograah, seems like /dev/.udev/10:13
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apwdo i detect a rebuild test in progress (from the length of the PPA queues) ?10:50
geserapw: yes, a test-rebuild is in progress (https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/test-rebuild-20100628/)10:58
ogracjwatson, could you promote the linux-ti-omap4 metapackage to main ? seems it landed in universe11:01
ogra(though i'm not really happy with the naming, should rather be just linux-omap4)11:01
cjwatsonogra: done11:07
cjwatsonneed to sort out omap4 seeds, mind you11:07
ograwe have subarch specific seeds ?11:07
ograyou nean it needs to be added to the installer seed etc ?11:08
ogra*mane11:08
ogragah11:08
ogra*mean11:08
cjwatsonthat wasn't what I meant, although the versions in the installer seed need to be updated11:10
cjwatsonhow about I take care of it, since I know what I mean :)11:10
cjwatsoneasier to do than to explain11:10
ograyeah11:11
cjwatsonogra: do you know why there are no udebs for the new linux-ti-omap4 package?11:12
* ogra fixes livecd-rootfs ... i went with the wrong assumption the metapackage would follow our naming scheme 11:12
cjwatsonuh, maybe that's wrong11:12
cjwatsonlinux-ti-omap4 | 2.6.34-901.2 |      maverick | source11:12
cjwatsonlinux-meta-ti-omap4 | 2.6.35.900.1 | maverick/universe | source11:12
cjwatsonis something out of sync?11:12
pittimr_pouit: uploaded xfce4-session to xubuntu-dev PPA with another piece of halsectomy, FTR11:12
ograi dont think so, there was only one upload11:12
* ogra checks deps11:13
cjwatsonlinux-meta-ti-omap4 (2.6.35.900.1) maverick; urgency=low11:13
cjwatson  * Maverick ABI 900 (2.6.34-900.1)11:13
cjwatsonthis is, to say the least, odd11:13
cjwatsonand the autogenerated dependencies are of course on 2.6.3511:14
* cjwatson suspects a difficult-to-fix foul-up11:14
ograhmm, yeah11:16
cjwatsonif I'm understanding this correctly, and you want to change the package names anyway, now would be a good time to do it. :-)11:16
cjwatsonthat'll be easier than trying to roll back the version11:16
ograyeah11:17
ograthe binary should really be linux-omap411:17
ograto match with all other packages11:17
mr_pouit"Monkey-patch" huhu pitti, nice. I'll test that this evening ;)11:17
* apw notes that these packages were uploaded 10 days ago, and you are checking them after the freeze ... 11:17
ograthe versioning might have been done with a view on the future11:17
ograsince the omap4 branch will end up at 2.6.35 before kernel freeze11:18
apwogra, normally we'd not do that, i suspect its a typo11:18
apwtypo11:18
ograapw, ok11:18
apwas 34 is < .35 anyhow11:18
ograapw, could i get a fix for both issues ? :)11:18
pittimr_pouit: in the sense that I only changed as little as necessary11:18
pittimr_pouit: i. e. error messages will still talk about "HAL" :)11:19
pittimr_pouit: but it works great here, tested suspend, reboot, and shutdown; hibernate properly says "not enough swap space" (I don't have swap in that project)11:19
ograapw, which freeze are you referring to ?11:19
apwalpha-2 ?11:20
ograwe dont even have omap4 images :)11:20
ograso A2 didnt matter11:20
apwahh tahts ok then11:20
ograi'm just starting to roll the first set11:20
ograor planned to start when i found the odd stuff :)11:20
m4they, i've been working for a few hrs to get plymouth working on a custom kernel, and i got it finally working with KMS enabled on radeon...but now GDM doesn't appear. it just stays at the ubuntu logo, though gdm and X are supposedly running. is this a simple fix?11:21
pittimr_pouit: updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Halsectomy, too11:21
cjwatsonapw: alpha-2 was released yesterday :)11:21
ograyeah, that too :)11:22
m4ti killed it and now its accessible11:22
apwcjwatson, although there the binary packages are the wrong name, the source package is actually correct, so to 'fix' this i'd be wanting to upload an older version ... is that even possible ?11:22
cjwatsonapw: it's not possible11:22
ograsmeels like epoch11:22
cjwatsonapw: either epoch, or rename the source package11:22
cjwatson(and check that your scripts work with an epoch, if the former)11:23
* apw whines11:23
ograapw, i'd go with a new source package, just frop the ti11:23
ogra*drop even11:23
cjwatsonapw: if you can't rename, then this is what epochs are for11:23
apwcjwatson, yeah ... but they are evil11:23
ograthere is not really a reason to point to the vendor in the package name ... there wont be other manufacturers producing OMAP11:24
apwogra, well we have a standard naming scheme for our source packages11:24
apwand only this odd naming scheme for the binaries cause the installer was difficult11:24
apwso to be inconsistent would be annoying11:25
cjwatsonapw: no they're not11:25
ogralinux-meta-ec2 ?11:25
cjwatsonapw: they're evil if Debian doesn't have an epoch11:25
cjwatsonapw: in that case, we're dooming ourselves to unsyncability forever11:25
cjwatsonapw: but that's not relevant here, so an epoch is the right technical tool for the job11:25
ogralinux-lpia-meta ...11:25
* apw cannot see the last one :)11:26
ograheh11:26
apwall our vendor branches are named the same, and the source packages match them11:26
ograwell, then go with epoch11:26
ograwas just a suggestion to easily avoid adding one11:26
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ograthough i dont know what an epoch imples for the M+1 release where omap4 is supposed to end up in the mainline branch11:27
apwogra, yeah ... i really don't want to find out all the nastyness that an epoch would produce either11:28
apwif we know we are definatly going to be getting a .35 based before release we can probabally just 'fix' the meta packages for the moment11:28
ograit might force you to add an epoch linux-meta for upgradeability reasons11:28
* apw will talk to tim, and get a plan together ... what a pain11:29
ograthough linux-meta seems to break your naming scheme :)11:29
* ogra giggles11:29
ograthere is linux-omap11:29
apwyeah the binary packages should be linux-flavour11:29
ograyeah11:29
apwthat is a bug also11:30
ograthats the one i'm more intrested in actually11:30
apwwell the version not pointing to the right place isn't going to win us awards11:30
cjwatsonan epoch in linux-meta would hardly be the end of the world11:30
ogralinux-meta-ti-omap4 | 2.6.35.900.1 ... you could just keep bumping the minor version there until the actual image is at .3511:31
ograbut indeed thats extra work to maintain it11:31
cjwatsoncertainly you could sed s/2\.6\.35/2\.6\.34/ in debian/rules for a while11:31
apwogra, indeed, but it might be the easiest course11:31
cjwatsoner fix syntax to work11:31
apwcjwatson, exactly my thought11:31
ograyeah11:31
apwas we know it will be .35 in the end11:31
m4tokay that was happening i guess because of the dkms enable parameter i passed to radeon.ko11:31
apwbah humbug ... ogra thanks for the heads up11:32
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ograapw, thanks for taking care :)11:33
m4ti only have one other question. i applied 0001-trace-add-trace-events-for-open-exec-an.patch and enabled CONFIG_FTRACE=y and CONFIG_ENABLE_DEFAULT_TRACERS=y. ureadahead will write to /var/lib/ureadahead if i run it after say, doing 'find /'11:33
m4tbut at boot it writes nothing. is there some way to debug it? perhaps have it log to a file?11:33
apwm4t, you have to remove the pack to triger it to make a new one11:36
m4tyep there is no pack, and i even tried creating a 0 length one with a > 1mo timestamp11:37
m4ti also tried changing /etc/init/ureadahead.conf to also use '--force-trace'11:37
apwas this is a personal kernel have you tested ftrace works even?11:38
m4tpretty sure it works because i ran ureadahead -v after stat()ing a whole bunch of files with find11:38
m4tand i got flooded with messages about things that came up in /proc not being regular files11:38
apwthen its a little odd its not working on boot for you then11:39
apwnothing other than the kernel is be-spoke ?11:39
m4tnope11:39
m4tonly reason i'm running a newer kernel is for pax patch11:39
m4tnewer/custom11:40
m4tand i've got pax disabled on the ureadahead binary11:40
m4tif i do ureadahead -v, run find /usr, and then ^C it definitely appears to work, and write to /var/lib/ureadahead11:43
m4tsee 'pack' itself and various *.pack files for my partitions11:43
apwm4t, and have you confirmed it is even run on boot ?11:43
m4tapw ;-)11:43
apwis that a yes?11:44
m4ti see it in boot.log11:44
m4twell i mean i haven't truely confirmed11:44
m4tbut it does have messages there11:44
apwi would be tempted to move it to ureadahead.real and add  a wrapper that records it being run11:44
apwand see hwat params it gets11:44
m4ti will try that11:45
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m4tit definitely does run11:55
m4ti was in single user. the only thing i thought might be happening is ureadahead opening a file on ROOT/var rather than my separate var partition11:55
m4ti wasn't able to unmount var to investigate though11:55
m4tno thats definitely not whats happening, i checked11:57
m4tabout all i found out is that ureadahead runs, and returns 0 to the shell11:58
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m4toh duh, well https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ureadahead/+bug/52348412:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 523484 in ureadahead (Ubuntu) "ureadahead requires /var on root filesystem" [Medium,Triaged]12:01
directhexSubject: libgdiplus_2.6.4-1_source.changes rejected12:01
directhexlibgdiplus is a mono package, can i please have upload rights on it?12:01
m4tmaybe i can create the directories manually on /12:01
Laneydirecthex: ping cjwatson to get it added to the set12:02
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m4tah i see a great solution actually12:02
Laney(I guess that just did it)12:02
directhexcjwatson is conveniently awake12:02
m4thave '/'var/lib/ureadahead be a symlink to '/'.ureadahead12:03
cjwatsonsure12:05
m4tyes the smlinks work, i definitely have the pack files in /.ureadahead now12:12
m4tapw thanks12:12
m4tim going to update that to make sure that /.ureadahead/debugfs is created, else it won't work12:13
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apwcjwatson, which meta package does the installer use?  or is it a direct linkage13:02
cjwatsonapw: normally the top-level one if it can, i.e. linux-<flavour>13:04
cjwatsonthough it falls back to linux-image-<flavour>13:04
apwso does that mean its important that the linux-<flavour> matches the linux-image-*-<flavour> ?13:05
cjwatsonyou mean whether the two <flavour>s are textually the same?13:06
apwyeah do they need to be the same ?13:07
cjwatsonno, the installer doesn't care13:07
cjwatsonlinux-<flavour> can depend on apw-is-god-let-all-earth-adore-him for all it cares13:07
cjwatson(though you might have a slight archive admin issue there)13:08
apwheheh i bet13:08
directhexcjwatson, is there an email address or something i should ping to formally request a change to the cli-mono package set?13:33
cjwatsondirecthex: no need, I just got distracted - done now13:34
directhexta13:34
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directhexSubject: [ubuntu/maverick] libgdiplus 2.6.4-1 (Accepted)13:41
directhexwoo13:41
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apwogra, ok its in the queue, but the buildd's claim it won't start until the 5th14:33
apwogra, not that that makes much sense as the queue is only 8 hours long14:34
hallynjames_w: hi - could you port the seabios package into bzr?14:36
james_whallyn: it's already done: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/seabios14:38
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hallynjames_w: dude!14:38
hallynthanks :)14:38
hallyn(i swear i checked that!)14:39
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cndjames_w: would you be able to take a look into why xorg-server package releases for maverick are not getting pushed into the bzr branch?14:41
hallynkirkland: so i guess i'll do a merge request through bzr instead14:41
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ograapw, all fine, it built14:58
apwogra, how did that happen, those estimates are all mad14:58
ograthe queue doesnt know how long a package actually builds so it assumes worst case if all builders are occupied i think14:59
ograapw, if you have such a case you can ask a buildd admin to bump priority btw14:59
apwogra, hrm, i thought it built an average time for each package14:59
pittiI think it does know (roughly) how long a package will need14:59
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pittiI guess it looks at the build time of the previous version14:59
apwpitti, seems to be all out of wack today, was saying 3days, yet it built in minutes15:00
pittimaybe that's broken for PPAs15:00
apwCan't open average time db /var/debbuild/avg-build-times15:00
apwCan't open average space db /var/debbuild/avg-build-space15:00
apwpitti, this was a main buildd build, going into maverick15:00
apwbut i suspect that they may be broken15:01
pittiapw: hm, where does it say 8 hours?15:01
pittimain buildds are rather empty, except doorstopper archs15:01
apwpitti, when i submitted the upload, it said it was going to start on the 5th, so i looked at the queue /builders/ and it said 8 hours, and then the job itself ran about 20 mins later15:02
pittifun15:02
apwsomething isn't quite right with its head15:02
pittiapw: it's just too hot outside15:02
apwcirtainly is here :)15:02
* pitti looks forward to the weekend, which he will spend with tenting, swimming, reading, idling, BBQ, and watching the soccer game15:03
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apwpitti, sounds like a dream15:21
apwi am seeing builds failing "failed to upload" in the rebuild test15:21
apwis that normal, or something i should report15:22
apwogra, are those new meta packages looking a bit better?15:22
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apwcjwatson, did the linux-meta-omap dissappear from maverick in the end ?15:52
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mvoDktrKranz: hi, just wanted to let you know that I updated gdebi to use python-apts debfile and python-apt now has all the features that were missing (kiwinote did a good chunk of this porting)15:54
mvoDktrKranz: I'm pretty happy about this :)15:54
DktrKranzmvo: a-ha! cool :)15:55
mvoplus improved testsuit for debfile.py as a added bonus (the gdebi test-debs) :)15:55
* mvo feels like after a spring cleanup15:55
DktrKranzsome older code has already been dropped, gdebi's lifting \o/15:56
mvoyeah :)15:56
mvo 11 files changed, 42 insertions(+), 238 deletions(-)15:57
cjwatsonapw: linux-meta-omap is gone, although there's still a linux-meta-ti-omap source package building no binaries15:59
cjwatsonapw: I could use a bug report with ubuntu-archive subscribed to it explaining what the desired state is16:00
apwcjwatson, yep can do that16:01
cjwatsonthanks16:01
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ograjdstrand, could you let linux-omap4 oput of NEW ?16:13
ogra*out16:13
ogra(it changed its binary name)16:13
apwcjwatson, i've assigned ubuntu-archive to bug #595949 which was the bug under which we fixed the linkage in linux-meta, i've added a full descrtiption of the change and what I think is required in the last comment16:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 595949 in linux-meta-ti-omap (Ubuntu Maverick) "linux-meta-ti-omap depends on the wrong binary kernel in maverick" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59594916:15
apws/assigned/subscribed16:16
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mdeslaurogra: jdstrand is on vacation16:18
ogramdeslaur, hmm, you dont happen to know who does his archive admin duties on fridays ?16:19
mdeslaurogra: no, sorry16:20
ograso since jdstrand is on vac. could some other archive admin please let linux-omap4 out of NEW ?16:23
ari-tczewkirkland: ping16:36
kirklandari-tczew: hi16:36
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ari-tczewhi kirkland, is it possible contribute to Debian first for byobu and syncs to Ubuntu then?16:37
kirklandari-tczew: i'm the upstream for byobu, and an Ubuntu developer;  i generally release byobu upstream, and upload to Ubuntu at the same time16:38
kirklandari-tczew: i'd like to be a Debian maintainer of the package, and upload to Debian too, simultaneously16:38
kirklandari-tczew: i need to jump through the DM hoops, though, and i haven't gotten around to that16:38
ari-tczewkirkland: http://packages.qa.debian.org/b/byobu.html shows: maint    Dustin Kirkland16:42
kirklandari-tczew: i saw that and asked;  it just means that i have had uploads sponsored16:43
kirklandari-tczew: if you fancy sponsoring my packages, i would be glad16:43
ari-tczewkirkland: hehe, I'm not Debian Developer16:43
kirklandari-tczew: okay16:43
kirklandari-tczew: so what exactly are you trying to accomplish?16:44
kirklandari-tczew: you want byobu uploaded to ubuntu and debian at the same time, right at release?16:44
ari-tczewkirkland: yea, I'd be glad to see packages Ubuntu = Debian (synced)16:44
kirklandari-tczew: even if that means that debian is a downstream of ubuntu in this case (as long as they're in sync)?16:45
Laneyyou can infact upload the same exact package simultaneously16:45
Laneyusing syncpackage16:45
kirklandLaney: i assume that requires DD or DM privs?16:47
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ziggystarI'm fighting with a bug with nm-applet. For a second user it seems it's lacking permissions. Running it with sudo works fine for that user. Can someone tell me how nm-applet gets started by gnome?17:01
james_wcnd: fixed17:07
cndjames_w: awesome!17:07
cndthanks!17:07
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mathiazpitti: hi!17:40
mathiazpitti: re landscape-client SRU - there are two of them in the queue for now17:41
mathiazpitti: what should we do with them?17:41
mathiazpitti: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=17:41
shadeslayerhey! any desktopcouch maintainers around?17:43
Laneykirkland: Right, I'm thinking that you build your package for unstable and then syncpackage gives you a changesfile for M or whatever17:53
kirklandLaney: what provides syncpackage?17:53
LaneyFWIW getting DM for your package should be easy17:53
Laneyubuntu-dev-tools17:53
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cr3in general, if a storage device fails to automount, against which package should the bug be reported?17:55
cr3if gvfsd, what would be the corresponding package on kubuntu?17:56
cjwatsonuse 'ubuntu-bug storage', I believe17:56
cjwatsonwhich works it out17:57
cjwatson(it uses gvfs on GNOME and kdelibs5 on KDE, but it's still best to go through the automatic thing)17:57
cr3cjwatson: thanks for reminding me about that :)17:58
Laneyah, yes I have one of those bugs to file17:58
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ccheneyis there  a way to disable ipv6 in maverick?18:42
ccheneyi'm testing some code and i think its having issues on using ipv618:42
ccheneyah i finally found out the correct syntax18:45
lex79cjwatson: I can't upload kdebase-workspace, meta-kde and pkg-kde-tools, are not in the set of packages for a kubuntu-developer. Is it possible fix that? :)18:57
cr3anyone know about a firewire device which seems to have started appearing with vendor id 0xd00d1e (looks suspicious, "doodle")19:13
cr3hm, seems to come up as: FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller (rev 04). weird how the vendor id detected > 0xFFFF19:14
cr3the weird thing is that /sys//devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1e.0/0000:05:0b.1/fw0/vendor is returning the id 0xd00d1e whereas lspci is returning another vendor id19:16
shadeslayerhi,can someone look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/desktopcouch/+bug/56537619:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 565376 in desktopcouch (Ubuntu) "bughugger does not work in kubuntu lucid" [Undecided,New]19:16
shadeslayerseems ubuntu dev is the maintainer of the package19:16
shadeslayerand it needs a SRU19:16
* shadeslayer knows no Ubuntu Devs19:19
arandshadeslayer: Go through the !sru process, and wait patiently. Is the normal procedure in those cases.19:21
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shadeslayerarand: have gone through it19:22
shadeslayerarand: ive attached a debdiff to the package19:22
shadeslayeruh... s/package/bug report19:22
shadeslayerjust needs some love :)19:22
arandshadeslayer: Is it fixed in maverick?19:24
shadeslayerarand: no,should i attach a debdiff for it too?19:24
shadeslayerneeds the same change to maverick too...19:24
arandshadeslayer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates : 1. Check that the bug is fixed in the current development release, and that its bug report task is "Fix released". It is, in general, not appropriate to release bug fixes for stable systems without first testing them in the current development branch. ...19:24
shadeslayerarand: basically.. gnome keyring needs to be installed along with python-desktopcouch for the gui authentication stuff19:24
shadeslayerarand: oh my..19:25
shadeslayerarand: will post a debdiff for maverick,will you look into it?19:25
arandshadeslayer: I'm no dev either, so I'm afraid no.19:26
shadeslayerarand: i actually posted the kubuntu devs the debdiff for maverick,but they told me to poke package maintainers19:26
shadeslayerarand: no problem :)19:26
cr3cyphermox: when you have a moment, please confirm bug #601161. thanks!19:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 601161 in linux (Ubuntu) "sysfs reports invalid vendor id for firewire device" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60116119:26
arandshadeslayer: Also, for SRU there is some formatting of the bug report to be done as well (test case, etc.), but that's all mentioned in the process which you've already read ;þ19:27
arandshadeslayer: If you don't have upload right you basically stop halfway at step 3. nominating it.19:29
shadeslayerarand: got it19:30
shadeslayerarand: anyways need to get it fixed in maverick first :P19:31
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njinSomeone remember if past years was possible to have SO on one disk and swap on another ?20:10
directhexSO?20:27
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jonoTheMuso, ping?22:05
shadeslayerany idea where apturl stores its desktop file?22:41
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micahgshadeslayer: it doesn't have one22:44
shadeslayermicahg: really?22:45
shadeslayeri thought i saw one22:45
* micahg doesn't see one in the file list22:45
shadeslayermicahg: what about apturl-kde ? or apturl-common?22:45
shadeslayerhmm.. your right22:46
cjwatsonlex79: fixed22:48
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directhexoh yes, the NEW queue. i forgot about that thing23:10
lex79cjwatson: thanks :)23:43
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