[14:07] <akgraner> hey all  - I'll be away from my desk most of the day today but returning sometime after 3pm EDT...  if you want to look for links and all that good stuffs go for it :-)  the template for Issue 200 is in place and I'll be working on the special parts tonight - but all the regular stuff still needs to happen :-)
[14:08] <akgraner> Goal is to have it published on Sunday before 5pm - I'd like to go see the Fireworks as it is 4th of July weekend :-)
[14:08] <akgraner> check back laters..:-)
[17:57] <zkriesse> akgraner: ping RE: /contributors
[17:58] <zkriesse> akgraner: when ya get this just wanted to let you know i've got about 30 odd pages left and then the contributor list is DONE!!!
[18:01] <nhandler> zkriesse: FYI, she is gone most of the day until after 3pm EDT
[18:01] <zkriesse> nhandler: oh ok....did not know that...hence the message
[18:02] <nhandler> :)
[19:59] <zkriesse> akgraner: UPDATE: /contributors is finished
[20:03] <scott_ev> akgraner: ping
[20:04] <holstein> is there an etherpad going?
[20:04] <scott_ev> huh?
[20:04] <holstein> a google doc?
[20:05] <scott_ev> normally is
[20:05] <scott_ev> I don't have a link, sorry
[20:05] <holstein> i'll send AK an email
[20:05] <holstein> no worries
[20:05] <holstein> im just realizing this is the most downtime im going to have this weekend
[20:08] <scott_ev> man, I let someone edit my wiki....
[20:08] <scott_ev> I only hope I can fix it
[20:08] <scott_ev> NEVER EVER delete contents from some one else's wiki...EVER
[20:09] <scott_ev> EVER, NEVER
[20:09] <scott_ev> under no circumstances
[20:09] <scott_ev> coment stuff our; perhaps
[20:09] <scott_ev> out
[20:10] <nhandler> scott_ev: Just revert to an earlier revision
[20:11] <scott_ev> nhandler: how far back can I go?
[20:11] <nhandler> scott_ev: On wiki.ubuntu.com? All the way to when the page was created
[20:11] <scott_ev> I've tried to salvage what's left.  It'll take several hours if not days
[20:11] <scott_ev> nhandler: thanks, I'll see what I can do
[20:11] <scott_ev> thank you
[20:12] <newboon2age_> some potential newsletter articles for akgraner and all...
[20:12] <scott_ev> nhandler: where do I do that?  I'm looking up top and don't seem to be looking in the right place
[20:13] <newboon2age_> Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat Alpha 2 Released http://techie-buzz.com/foss/ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat-alpha-2-released.html
[20:13] <newboon2age_> Pictures of Ubuntu: Linux's best photo shots at Windows and Mac    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/30/linux_versus_mac_windows_2/
[20:13] <nhandler> scott_ev: Append ?action=info to the wiki url
[20:14] <scott_ev> nice, thank you
[20:14] <newboon2age_> HTC HD2 Given New Life With Android 2.1 and Ubuntu (Video) http://androinica.com/2010/07/01/htc-hd2-given-new-life-with-android-2-1-and-ubuntu-video/
[20:14] <scott_ev> I really want to eventually apply for membership...
[20:14] <scott_ev> been putting it off for months
[20:15] <newboon2age_> this one mentions that HP is offering Ubuntu Netbook on some of their netbooks, which I didn't know... ->  Web confirms webOS on Slate PCs  http://www.techtree.com/India/News/HP_confirms_webOS_on_Slate_PCs/551-112119-580.html
[20:16] <newboon2age_> Cisco working on a Atom-powered Ubuntu Linux tablet   http://www.islate.org/index.php/2010/07/01/cisco-cius-ubuntu-linux-tablet-atom/
[20:17] <newboon2age_> The following could be used whenever because their not about timeliness...
[20:17] <newboon2age_> and another by Linux Girl:  Can a FOSS Firm Hit the Billion-Dollar Jackpot?  http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/Can-a-FOSS-Firm-Hit-the-Billion-Dollar-Jackpot-70244.html
[20:18] <scott_ev> nhandler: that's real slick,  thanks again
[20:18] <newboon2age_> Ubuntu: Harder to Use, or Just Harder to Spell?  http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/Ubuntu-Harder-to-Use-or-Just-Harder-to-Spell-70281.html
[20:18] <zkriesse> scott_ev: what's your wiki?
[20:18] <scott_ev> zkriesse: I just added back a bunch of stuff that needed to be there
[20:19] <zkriesse> scott_ev: cool...that revision thing helps alot
[20:19] <zkriesse> don't know how many times i've deleted stuff from my wiki page that i needed...instead of trying to remember what it all was i learned to use that
[20:19] <scott_ev> no doubt.  I sorta had a feeling it was somewhere, but asking questions of Ubuntu people generally get me good answers
[20:20] <scott_ev> in opposition to some other distros...
[20:20] <scott_ev> haha
[20:20] <zkriesse> scott_ev: mind if i look at your wiki?
[20:20] <scott_ev> as a matter of fact, no one in Ubuntu has ever said rtfm to me
[20:20] <zkriesse> rtfm?
[20:20] <newboon2age_> One that caught my attention by the same author "Linux Girl" -- Katherine Noyes...  Who Should -- or Shouldn't -- Use Linux   http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/Who-Should---or-Shouldnt---Use-Linux-70329.html
[20:20] <scott_ev> zkriesse: sure, you edited it for me and I disagreed with your edits
[20:21]  * zkriesse doesn't follow all the acronyms these days
[20:21] <scott_ev> read the f**ng manual
[20:21] <newboon2age_> Basically concludes with the current state of Linux being so good everyone except those locked into programs that only run on one OS.
[20:21] <scott_ev> zkriesse: I get that in some IRC channels, never in anything ubuntu
[20:21] <scott_ev> zkriesse: very old acronym
[20:21] <zkriesse> oh gotcha
[20:23] <newboon2age_> This one advocates Ubuntu as a starting point for Linux >>>>  The Reg guide to Linux, part 2: Preparing to dual-boot  http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/23/reg_linux_guide_2/
[20:26] <newboon2age_> and more on Ubuntu from the same author:  The Reg guide to Linux, part 3  http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/24/reg_linux_guide_3/
[20:30] <newboon2age_> Uses Xubuntu >>>>  Linutop 2 Review Linux desktop lightweight – in more ways than one? http://www.reghardware.com/2009/05/12/review_desktop_pc_linutop_2/
[20:32] <newboon2age_> The above articles should provide fodder for a few newsletter editions. :) akgraner
[20:39] <newboon2age_> oh you probably got an article about this but just in case you missed it, its so remarkable i have to pass it on: Google Dumps Windows In Favour of Linux & Mac OS  http://www.trustedreviews.com/software/news/2010/06/01/Google-Dumps-Windows-In-Favour-of-Linux---Mac-OS/p1
[20:39] <newboon2age_> and that's Ubuntu Google went to
[20:44] <scott_ev> nhandler: do you have a minute?
[20:45] <nhandler> scott_ev: Yeah, what's up?
[20:45] <scott_ev> I found the rev I want to restore but haven't figured out exactly how?  any suggestions?
[20:46] <scott_ev> I've tried copy/paste into a new edit and that hasn't worked so far
[20:46] <nhandler> scott_ev: Under 'More Actions' there should be a Revert to this Revision option
[20:46] <scott_ev> ah, thanks.  not sure how I missed that
[20:47] <nhandler> No problem
[20:47] <scott_ev> I think that did it.  much appreciated, sir
[20:47] <scott_ev> geez, it's so hard to think right after coming in fromi 110 weather
[21:25] <scott_ev> nhandler: nice, got all straightened out with you and zkriesse's help
[21:25] <scott_ev> now I just need to get my name on the list
[21:27] <newboon2age_> akgraner: I discovered the hard way that Konqueror is not a 'fully supported browser' for Google mail and Google Docs...
[21:27] <newboon2age_> akgraner: its not a huge deal, i'll just load another, but something to be aware of for Kubuntu folks (I'm experimenting w/ Kubuntu)
[21:28] <newboon2age_> akgraner: it temporarily prevents me from checking out your Google Doc site for the newsletter...
[21:29] <newboon2age_> akgraner: i also e-mailed you some additional potential newsletter items -- if nothing else their interesting Ubuntu or linux related from that past month or so...
[21:44] <pleia2> interesting bug, that event was added by crimsun
[21:44] <pleia2> not sure how to go about replying to it
[21:45]  * pleia2 nudges another dc loco person
[21:45] <scott_ev> how many of you are in DC?
[21:46] <pleia2> I'm not, I meant "another" as in someone not crimsun, since he's not around right now :)
[21:46] <scott_ev> ah
[21:46] <pleia2> looks like maco isn't either though
[21:49] <nhandler> pleia2: What is the bug?
[21:49] <pleia2> https://bugs.launchpad.net/fridge/+bug/601194
[21:50] <pleia2> someone else might want to do the change-bug-status-foo since I don't know the etiquette :)
[21:51] <nhandler> Well, it isn't really a bug, so Invalid seems appropriate
[21:51]  * pleia2 sets invalid
[21:51] <nhandler> :)
[21:51] <pleia2> thanks :)
[21:57] <scott_ev> say, on the membership committee website it still says the next meeting is June17.  anyone know when the meeting is in July?  I guess I can contact them, but I thought I'd ask here to see if there's a quick answer
[21:58] <pleia2> I'll update it now, sec
[21:58] <pleia2> btw: Meetings are held at 23:59 UTC on the third Thursday of the month
[21:58] <pleia2> says it right under the last given date ;)
[21:58] <scott_ev> nice, that's what I saw, just wanted confirmation.  thank you
[21:59] <pleia2> so it'll be on the 15th
[22:00] <scott_ev> ayup, and I'll be there.  I can hardly believe I put this off for so long..
[22:00] <scott_ev> I coulda done this nearly a year ago
[22:00] <pleia2> :)
[22:01] <pleia2> scott_ev: where in AZ are you, if you don't mind me asking?
[22:01] <scott_ev> Mesa
[22:01] <scott_ev> east Mesa to be more exact
[22:01] <nhandler> scott_ev: The Americas meetings should also be on the Fridge calendar fyi
[22:01] <scott_ev> with all the old folks - caretaking for my aging parents
[22:02] <pleia2> cool
[22:02] <scott_ev> nhandler: ayup, my memory is so bad sometimes
[22:02] <pleia2> I have an aunt in Phoenix, will probably hop over there sometime in the next year
[22:02] <scott_ev> well, let me know and we'll do a Ubuntu Lunch if possible
[22:02] <pleia2> that would be great :)
[22:02] <scott_ev> I like face2face meetings
[22:02] <pleia2> me too
[22:03] <scott_ev> I ran into akgraner at SCaLE by accident
[22:03] <pleia2> hehe
[22:03] <scott_ev> she happened to spot my LoCo tshirt
[22:03] <nhandler> Hmm...We need LoCo shirts in Chicago
[22:04] <scott_ev> nhandler: my LoCo had a cafe press store but it shutdown.  I went ahead andf made 4 shirts there with just using my LoCo logo
[22:04] <scott_ev> made them just for SCaLE
[22:04] <pleia2> we had a small local company make them up, afaik they were donated to the team which was great
[22:04] <pleia2> need more though, going to another local shop
[22:04] <nhandler> scott_ev: We have an ok logo, and I could get the shirts made fairly cheap at my school. I'm talking to the other loco members now ;)
[22:05] <scott_ev> nhandler: nice.  the more I handle for my team, the more I find I need to do
[22:05] <pleia2> hehe
[22:05] <scott_ev> nearly everyone active has moved up or out....
[22:05] <scott_ev> I'm dang near the only one doing anything administrative
[22:06] <scott_ev> and it's very very time-co0nsuming
[22:06] <scott_ev> consuming*
[22:06] <pleia2> that reminds me, my aunt in Phoenix asked me recently to "explain your ubuntu thing" and asked if it was popular in AZ too :)
[22:06] <pleia2> oh yes, there is a whole team! they have a newsletter!@
[22:06] <scott_ev> pleia2: we have currently 4 Ubuntu members
[22:06] <scott_ev> that reminds me; I need to staet up the newsletter again in craig's absense
[22:07] <scott_ev> see, I spend alot of time and effort coordinating the state LUGS because so many of them mainly have Ubuntu users
[22:08]  * pleia2 nods
[22:08] <scott_ev> outside of Hans the local PLUG pres, I'm the most active foss guy around
[22:08] <scott_ev> I likje having the LUGS work togethere
[22:08] <pleia2> I ran (the real *grin*) PLUG back in philly, worked out nicely since the ubuntu team and the lug could really easily work together
[22:08] <scott_ev> I work harder in retirement than I remember working for $
[22:09] <scott_ev> pleia2: agreed, it helps
[22:10] <scott_ev> we have tons of resources; a live server ahd a test server, @azloco addresses available - and that's just some of the things outside of Ubuntu that we've managed to do for ourselves
[22:10] <pleia2> nice :)
[22:10] <scott_ev> johnc4510: really did a great job witht jhis team before kinda handing it to me
[22:10] <scott_ev> he's still the pres and always will be
[22:11] <scott_ev> I jsut picked up after his departure to do bigger things for Ubuntu
[22:11]  * pleia2 nods
[22:11] <scott_ev> he's a very busy guy; caretaking for his mom, self-employed and extremely active in Ubuntu
[22:11] <scott_ev> a great mentor
[22:11] <pleia2> yeah
[22:32] <scott_ev> nice.  It helps to be the mailing list admin for my LoCo - hopefully there will be a large AZ LoCo presence in the meeting
[22:34] <internalkernel> dig :: http://wirelessstyle.info/2010/07/02/devs-manage-to-get-ubuntu-on-htc-hd2/
[22:40] <scott_ev> sounds like a lot of work...good for their progress; next they'll actually be able to make calls with ubuntu
[22:47] <internalkernel> lol... that would be an interesting article...
[22:47] <internalkernel> Im just surprised they went with ubuntu and not a native debian...
[22:49] <scott_ev> understood.  people have put debian on the droid
[22:50] <scott_ev> I'm happy enough with android on the droid that I wouldn't, myself, bother with anything else
[22:51] <scott_ev> though I've been running 2.2 for a month and the source jsut dropped a few days ago...
[23:01] <internalkernel> totally... I've been sporting a nexus one for the past few weeks and LOVE it...
[23:02] <akgraner> hey all...
[23:02] <scott_ev> hey akgraner
[23:02] <akgraner> what a day...
[23:02] <scott_ev> oh yeah?
[23:02] <scott_ev> not a little busy are you?
[23:02] <akgraner> corn...  you have to freeze it when it's ready - it won't wait
[23:02] <scott_ev> internalkernel: I prefer the droid because it has a KB
[23:02] <akgraner> we have done over 100 dozen this week...
[23:02] <scott_ev> akgraner: indeed
[23:03] <akgraner> and we still have more to do tomorrow
[23:03] <akgraner> but it sure tastes good in the winter
[23:03] <scott_ev> awesome:  scott gwin 152 n 58th street mesa az 85205
[23:03] <akgraner> beans and such keep a little longer ofter you pick them but not much they'll have to be done next week
[23:03] <scott_ev> I'll send sweet oranges in dec/jan
[23:03] <akgraner> yummy
[23:04] <scott_ev> if you like figs....
[23:05] <scott_ev> they'll be ready soon.  I make jam with them
[23:05] <akgraner> I can't shuck it or pick it  - I can only silk and cut it off the cob b/c I don't have to use my left shoulder than much - but it is still tiring..  but so rewarding once it's all finished
[23:05] <akgraner> I want to plant some fig trees
[23:05] <scott_ev> all I have to do is cut them up and slowly boil them with a little water and can them
[23:05] <internalkernel> akgraner: are you coming up this way tomorrow?
[23:06] <akgraner> we have blueberry bushed, plum trees, crab apple trees, and pear trees.. the pecan trees and raspberry bushes aren't bearing yet but should in about 3 more years
[23:06] <akgraner> internalkernel, no can do :-(  I more corn to do
[23:06] <akgraner> you all can head her and we can do work on corn and talk about ubuntu :-)
[23:06] <internalkernel> lol... shuck some corn... :)
[23:07] <akgraner> many hands make light work
[23:07] <scott_ev> PM me your mailing address amber
[23:08] <scott_ev> or email it to me at j dot scott dot gwin at gmail
[23:10] <akgraner> johnc4510, ping
[23:10] <akgraner> cjohnston, hey!
[23:11] <akgraner> I'll start adding links to some of the sections in just a little while...
[23:11] <akgraner> I've gotten a lot of feed back from people over the last few weeks and will be including a survey for readers to take as well
[23:12] <akgraner> but want to drop it here 1st to see if there is anything else you all would include
[23:12] <scott_ev> akgraner: I'll be doing my section tonight or tomorrow
[23:12] <akgraner> scott_ev, thanks!
[23:13] <scott_ev> np
[23:13] <scott_ev> I always go straight to wiki if that's not an issue
[23:13] <akgraner> trying to get as much stuff done before Sunday afternoon since I know many people who help with UWN will be celebrating July 4th
[23:13] <akgraner> scott_ev, that's fine
[23:13] <scott_ev> cool
[23:14] <akgraner> I just want people to have a comfortable way to contribute
[23:14] <scott_ev> I see that
[23:14] <scott_ev> I never bang heads editing the wiki since I do it early
[23:17] <akgraner> :-)
[23:43] <zkriesse> akgraner: ya there?
[23:45] <akgraner> yep
[23:47] <zkriesse> akgraner: got the /contributors page finished
[23:48] <zkriesse> if you want to give me a buzz we can talk about it or anything else you need
[23:48] <akgraner> zkriesse,  thanks!
[23:50] <zkriesse> skype's on
[23:52] <akgraner> thanks  - I'm in the middle of helping with a slide presentation at the moment
[23:52] <zkriesse> ah ok...
[23:52] <akgraner> then it will be dinner time once I finish this
[23:52] <zkriesse> well if you wanna give me a call feel free
[23:52] <akgraner> ok thanks!
[23:52] <zkriesse> yup
[23:52] <zkriesse> if i don't answer means i'm away