[14:07] hey all - I'll be away from my desk most of the day today but returning sometime after 3pm EDT... if you want to look for links and all that good stuffs go for it :-) the template for Issue 200 is in place and I'll be working on the special parts tonight - but all the regular stuff still needs to happen :-) [14:08] Goal is to have it published on Sunday before 5pm - I'd like to go see the Fireworks as it is 4th of July weekend :-) [14:08] check back laters..:-) [17:57] akgraner: ping RE: /contributors [17:58] akgraner: when ya get this just wanted to let you know i've got about 30 odd pages left and then the contributor list is DONE!!! [18:01] zkriesse: FYI, she is gone most of the day until after 3pm EDT [18:01] nhandler: oh ok....did not know that...hence the message [18:02] :) [19:59] akgraner: UPDATE: /contributors is finished [20:03] akgraner: ping [20:04] is there an etherpad going? [20:04] huh? [20:04] a google doc? [20:05] normally is [20:05] I don't have a link, sorry [20:05] i'll send AK an email [20:05] no worries [20:05] im just realizing this is the most downtime im going to have this weekend [20:08] man, I let someone edit my wiki.... [20:08] I only hope I can fix it [20:08] NEVER EVER delete contents from some one else's wiki...EVER [20:09] EVER, NEVER [20:09] under no circumstances [20:09] coment stuff our; perhaps [20:09] out [20:10] scott_ev: Just revert to an earlier revision [20:11] nhandler: how far back can I go? [20:11] scott_ev: On wiki.ubuntu.com? All the way to when the page was created [20:11] I've tried to salvage what's left. It'll take several hours if not days [20:11] nhandler: thanks, I'll see what I can do [20:11] thank you [20:12] some potential newsletter articles for akgraner and all... [20:12] nhandler: where do I do that? I'm looking up top and don't seem to be looking in the right place [20:13] Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat Alpha 2 Released http://techie-buzz.com/foss/ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat-alpha-2-released.html [20:13] Pictures of Ubuntu: Linux's best photo shots at Windows and Mac http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/30/linux_versus_mac_windows_2/ [20:13] scott_ev: Append ?action=info to the wiki url [20:14] nice, thank you [20:14] HTC HD2 Given New Life With Android 2.1 and Ubuntu (Video) http://androinica.com/2010/07/01/htc-hd2-given-new-life-with-android-2-1-and-ubuntu-video/ [20:14] I really want to eventually apply for membership... [20:14] been putting it off for months [20:15] this one mentions that HP is offering Ubuntu Netbook on some of their netbooks, which I didn't know... -> Web confirms webOS on Slate PCs http://www.techtree.com/India/News/HP_confirms_webOS_on_Slate_PCs/551-112119-580.html [20:16] Cisco working on a Atom-powered Ubuntu Linux tablet http://www.islate.org/index.php/2010/07/01/cisco-cius-ubuntu-linux-tablet-atom/ [20:17] The following could be used whenever because their not about timeliness... [20:17] and another by Linux Girl: Can a FOSS Firm Hit the Billion-Dollar Jackpot? http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/Can-a-FOSS-Firm-Hit-the-Billion-Dollar-Jackpot-70244.html [20:18] nhandler: that's real slick, thanks again [20:18] Ubuntu: Harder to Use, or Just Harder to Spell? http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/Ubuntu-Harder-to-Use-or-Just-Harder-to-Spell-70281.html [20:18] scott_ev: what's your wiki? [20:18] zkriesse: I just added back a bunch of stuff that needed to be there [20:19] scott_ev: cool...that revision thing helps alot [20:19] don't know how many times i've deleted stuff from my wiki page that i needed...instead of trying to remember what it all was i learned to use that [20:19] no doubt. I sorta had a feeling it was somewhere, but asking questions of Ubuntu people generally get me good answers [20:20] in opposition to some other distros... [20:20] haha [20:20] scott_ev: mind if i look at your wiki? [20:20] as a matter of fact, no one in Ubuntu has ever said rtfm to me [20:20] rtfm? [20:20] One that caught my attention by the same author "Linux Girl" -- Katherine Noyes... Who Should -- or Shouldn't -- Use Linux http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/Who-Should---or-Shouldnt---Use-Linux-70329.html [20:20] zkriesse: sure, you edited it for me and I disagreed with your edits [20:21] * zkriesse doesn't follow all the acronyms these days [20:21] read the f**ng manual [20:21] Basically concludes with the current state of Linux being so good everyone except those locked into programs that only run on one OS. [20:21] zkriesse: I get that in some IRC channels, never in anything ubuntu [20:21] zkriesse: very old acronym [20:21] oh gotcha [20:23] This one advocates Ubuntu as a starting point for Linux >>>> The Reg guide to Linux, part 2: Preparing to dual-boot http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/23/reg_linux_guide_2/ [20:26] and more on Ubuntu from the same author: The Reg guide to Linux, part 3 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/24/reg_linux_guide_3/ === MTecknology is now known as MTeck-rcider [20:30] Uses Xubuntu >>>> Linutop 2 Review Linux desktop lightweight – in more ways than one? http://www.reghardware.com/2009/05/12/review_desktop_pc_linutop_2/ === MTeck-rcider is now known as MTecknology [20:32] The above articles should provide fodder for a few newsletter editions. :) akgraner [20:39] oh you probably got an article about this but just in case you missed it, its so remarkable i have to pass it on: Google Dumps Windows In Favour of Linux & Mac OS http://www.trustedreviews.com/software/news/2010/06/01/Google-Dumps-Windows-In-Favour-of-Linux---Mac-OS/p1 [20:39] and that's Ubuntu Google went to [20:44] nhandler: do you have a minute? [20:45] scott_ev: Yeah, what's up? [20:45] I found the rev I want to restore but haven't figured out exactly how? any suggestions? [20:46] I've tried copy/paste into a new edit and that hasn't worked so far [20:46] scott_ev: Under 'More Actions' there should be a Revert to this Revision option [20:46] ah, thanks. not sure how I missed that [20:47] No problem [20:47] I think that did it. much appreciated, sir [20:47] geez, it's so hard to think right after coming in fromi 110 weather [21:25] nhandler: nice, got all straightened out with you and zkriesse's help [21:25] now I just need to get my name on the list [21:27] akgraner: I discovered the hard way that Konqueror is not a 'fully supported browser' for Google mail and Google Docs... [21:27] akgraner: its not a huge deal, i'll just load another, but something to be aware of for Kubuntu folks (I'm experimenting w/ Kubuntu) [21:28] akgraner: it temporarily prevents me from checking out your Google Doc site for the newsletter... [21:29] akgraner: i also e-mailed you some additional potential newsletter items -- if nothing else their interesting Ubuntu or linux related from that past month or so... [21:44] interesting bug, that event was added by crimsun [21:44] not sure how to go about replying to it [21:45] * pleia2 nudges another dc loco person [21:45] how many of you are in DC? [21:46] I'm not, I meant "another" as in someone not crimsun, since he's not around right now :) [21:46] ah [21:46] looks like maco isn't either though [21:49] pleia2: What is the bug? [21:49] https://bugs.launchpad.net/fridge/+bug/601194 [21:50] someone else might want to do the change-bug-status-foo since I don't know the etiquette :) [21:51] Well, it isn't really a bug, so Invalid seems appropriate [21:51] * pleia2 sets invalid [21:51] :) [21:51] thanks :) [21:57] say, on the membership committee website it still says the next meeting is June17. anyone know when the meeting is in July? I guess I can contact them, but I thought I'd ask here to see if there's a quick answer [21:58] I'll update it now, sec [21:58] btw: Meetings are held at 23:59 UTC on the third Thursday of the month [21:58] says it right under the last given date ;) [21:58] nice, that's what I saw, just wanted confirmation. thank you [21:59] so it'll be on the 15th [22:00] ayup, and I'll be there. I can hardly believe I put this off for so long.. [22:00] I coulda done this nearly a year ago [22:00] :) [22:01] scott_ev: where in AZ are you, if you don't mind me asking? [22:01] Mesa [22:01] east Mesa to be more exact [22:01] scott_ev: The Americas meetings should also be on the Fridge calendar fyi [22:01] with all the old folks - caretaking for my aging parents [22:02] cool [22:02] nhandler: ayup, my memory is so bad sometimes [22:02] I have an aunt in Phoenix, will probably hop over there sometime in the next year [22:02] well, let me know and we'll do a Ubuntu Lunch if possible [22:02] that would be great :) [22:02] I like face2face meetings [22:02] me too [22:03] I ran into akgraner at SCaLE by accident [22:03] hehe [22:03] she happened to spot my LoCo tshirt [22:03] Hmm...We need LoCo shirts in Chicago [22:04] nhandler: my LoCo had a cafe press store but it shutdown. I went ahead andf made 4 shirts there with just using my LoCo logo [22:04] made them just for SCaLE [22:04] we had a small local company make them up, afaik they were donated to the team which was great [22:04] need more though, going to another local shop [22:04] scott_ev: We have an ok logo, and I could get the shirts made fairly cheap at my school. I'm talking to the other loco members now ;) [22:05] nhandler: nice. the more I handle for my team, the more I find I need to do [22:05] hehe [22:05] nearly everyone active has moved up or out.... [22:05] I'm dang near the only one doing anything administrative [22:06] and it's very very time-co0nsuming [22:06] consuming* [22:06] that reminds me, my aunt in Phoenix asked me recently to "explain your ubuntu thing" and asked if it was popular in AZ too :) [22:06] oh yes, there is a whole team! they have a newsletter!@ [22:06] pleia2: we have currently 4 Ubuntu members [22:06] that reminds me; I need to staet up the newsletter again in craig's absense [22:07] see, I spend alot of time and effort coordinating the state LUGS because so many of them mainly have Ubuntu users [22:08] * pleia2 nods [22:08] outside of Hans the local PLUG pres, I'm the most active foss guy around [22:08] I likje having the LUGS work togethere [22:08] I ran (the real *grin*) PLUG back in philly, worked out nicely since the ubuntu team and the lug could really easily work together [22:08] I work harder in retirement than I remember working for $ [22:09] pleia2: agreed, it helps [22:10] we have tons of resources; a live server ahd a test server, @azloco addresses available - and that's just some of the things outside of Ubuntu that we've managed to do for ourselves [22:10] nice :) [22:10] johnc4510: really did a great job witht jhis team before kinda handing it to me [22:10] he's still the pres and always will be [22:11] I jsut picked up after his departure to do bigger things for Ubuntu [22:11] * pleia2 nods [22:11] he's a very busy guy; caretaking for his mom, self-employed and extremely active in Ubuntu [22:11] a great mentor [22:11] yeah [22:32] nice. It helps to be the mailing list admin for my LoCo - hopefully there will be a large AZ LoCo presence in the meeting [22:34] dig :: http://wirelessstyle.info/2010/07/02/devs-manage-to-get-ubuntu-on-htc-hd2/ [22:40] sounds like a lot of work...good for their progress; next they'll actually be able to make calls with ubuntu [22:47] lol... that would be an interesting article... [22:47] Im just surprised they went with ubuntu and not a native debian... [22:49] understood. people have put debian on the droid [22:50] I'm happy enough with android on the droid that I wouldn't, myself, bother with anything else [22:51] though I've been running 2.2 for a month and the source jsut dropped a few days ago... [23:01] totally... I've been sporting a nexus one for the past few weeks and LOVE it... [23:02] hey all... [23:02] hey akgraner [23:02] what a day... [23:02] oh yeah? [23:02] not a little busy are you? [23:02] corn... you have to freeze it when it's ready - it won't wait [23:02] internalkernel: I prefer the droid because it has a KB [23:02] we have done over 100 dozen this week... [23:02] akgraner: indeed [23:03] and we still have more to do tomorrow [23:03] but it sure tastes good in the winter [23:03] awesome: scott gwin 152 n 58th street mesa az 85205 [23:03] beans and such keep a little longer ofter you pick them but not much they'll have to be done next week [23:03] I'll send sweet oranges in dec/jan [23:03] yummy [23:04] if you like figs.... [23:05] they'll be ready soon. I make jam with them [23:05] I can't shuck it or pick it - I can only silk and cut it off the cob b/c I don't have to use my left shoulder than much - but it is still tiring.. but so rewarding once it's all finished [23:05] I want to plant some fig trees [23:05] all I have to do is cut them up and slowly boil them with a little water and can them [23:05] akgraner: are you coming up this way tomorrow? [23:06] we have blueberry bushed, plum trees, crab apple trees, and pear trees.. the pecan trees and raspberry bushes aren't bearing yet but should in about 3 more years [23:06] internalkernel, no can do :-( I more corn to do [23:06] you all can head her and we can do work on corn and talk about ubuntu :-) [23:06] lol... shuck some corn... :) [23:07] many hands make light work [23:07] PM me your mailing address amber [23:08] or email it to me at j dot scott dot gwin at gmail [23:10] johnc4510, ping [23:10] cjohnston, hey! [23:11] I'll start adding links to some of the sections in just a little while... [23:11] I've gotten a lot of feed back from people over the last few weeks and will be including a survey for readers to take as well [23:12] but want to drop it here 1st to see if there is anything else you all would include [23:12] akgraner: I'll be doing my section tonight or tomorrow [23:12] scott_ev, thanks! [23:13] np [23:13] I always go straight to wiki if that's not an issue [23:13] trying to get as much stuff done before Sunday afternoon since I know many people who help with UWN will be celebrating July 4th [23:13] scott_ev, that's fine [23:13] cool [23:14] I just want people to have a comfortable way to contribute [23:14] I see that [23:14] I never bang heads editing the wiki since I do it early [23:17] :-) [23:43] akgraner: ya there? [23:45] yep [23:47] akgraner: got the /contributors page finished [23:48] if you want to give me a buzz we can talk about it or anything else you need [23:48] zkriesse, thanks! [23:50] skype's on [23:52] thanks - I'm in the middle of helping with a slide presentation at the moment [23:52] ah ok... [23:52] then it will be dinner time once I finish this [23:52] well if you wanna give me a call feel free [23:52] ok thanks! [23:52] yup [23:52] if i don't answer means i'm away