[04:09] <shaun__> hello?
[04:25] <MTecknology> shaun__: hi
[04:28] <shaun__> I'm new to ubuntu web dev team
[04:29] <shaun__> as you already know of coarse
[04:30] <MTecknology> yup :)
[04:30] <MTecknology> how goes it?
[04:31] <shaun__> well I'm trying to get drupal going I think I may already have it installed
[04:31] <shaun__> lol
[04:32] <MTecknology> did you try that guide at all?
[04:32] <shaun__> some
[04:33] <shaun__> I have it installed to /var/www/drupal I just checked
[04:34] <MTecknology> what's your apache config look like?
[04:34] <MTecknology> your config will be aroung /etc/apache2/sites-available
[04:36] <shaun__> Document root is /var/www
[04:36] <shaun__> is this correct
[04:37] <MTecknology> nope
[04:37] <MTecknology> /var/www/drupal
[04:37] <shaun__> didn't think so
[04:37] <MTecknology> put the 6 at the end of drupal too
[04:37] <MTecknology> for both parts
[04:38] <shaun__> on a side note have you herd of bluefish web editor
[04:38] <MTecknology> yucky
[04:39] <MTecknology> errr- wait..
[04:39] <shaun__> lol
[04:39] <MTecknology> I was thinking something else
[04:39] <MTecknology> nope, I use vim
[04:41] <shaun__> oh
[04:41] <MTecknology> one of our devs swears by komodo edit - personal i think it's an ugly bloated bug
[04:43] <shaun__> lol
[04:44] <shaun__> now is it just the folder or is it a file inside the drupal directory
[04:45] <MTecknology> /var/www/drupal6/install.php
[04:45] <MTecknology> you want that - and everything else lined up
[04:45] <shaun__> oops I downloaded drupal 5
[04:45] <shaun__> :(
[04:46] <MTecknology> yucky
[04:47] <MTecknology> D5 is nearly dead actually
[04:47] <shaun__> Can't I update it from the terminal
[04:47] <MTecknology> hm?
[04:47] <shaun__> or is that just for Ubuntu's aps
[04:47] <MTecknology> don't use the one from the repo - it's always out of date
[04:48] <shaun__> so should I do a MAJOR clean house and reinstall?
[04:48] <MTecknology> ?
[04:48] <MTecknology> no
[04:48] <shaun__> no
[04:48] <MTecknology> aptitude purge drupal5
[04:49] <MTecknology> follow that guide - after removing drupal5/6
[04:49] <shaun__> I didn't mean reinstalling the system
[04:49] <MTecknology> oh, then - go for it
[04:49] <shaun__> That would take for ever
[04:49] <shaun__> lol
[04:59] <MTecknology> shaun__: I'm heading to bed - it's usually quiet in here but others will be aroudn to help - if not I'll be back on in the (mine) morning
[04:59] <shaun__> k
[04:59] <shaun__> see ya
[05:00] <MTecknology> g'luck
[05:52] <Viper550> hey
[11:16] <shaun__> hey guys good morning
[11:25] <stas> shaun__: hey
[11:26] <shaun__> are you familiar with how to set drupal up
[11:27] <shaun__> ?
[11:27] <stas> shaun__: yes, but I'm not the guy to ask about drupal :)
[11:27] <stas> talk to MTecknology
[11:27] <stas> though he's in US tz so it might take a while till he's online
[11:29] <shaun__> I'm in US also
[11:29] <shaun__> I woke up
[11:29] <shaun__> lol
[11:29] <stas> well dunno then :)
[11:29] <shaun__> ok thanks anyway
[11:29] <shaun__> :)
[12:33] <ilmari> why isn't maverick included on packages.ubuntu.com?
[14:19] <MTecknology> stas: hi
[14:19] <MTecknology> shaun__: you still need help?
[14:19] <stas> MTecknology: hey
[15:32] <mhall119> newz2000: stas: MTecknology: Check out http://loco.ubuntu.com
[15:33] <newz2000> mhall119: looking good!
[15:33] <MTecknology> mhall119: shiny
[15:34] <stas> yeah, nice
[15:35] <stas> though that footer sucks when we have just a little content
[15:37] <newz2000> great work
[18:38] <knome> um, the header "ubuntu loco team directory" looks weird
[20:59] <shaun__> hey
[20:59] <shaun__> guys
[21:00] <newz2000> hey shaun__
[21:01] <shaun__> I need some help setting up my system to help with web development
[21:01] <newz2000> where are you at in the process?
[21:02] <shaun__> I installed Xampp for linux and downloaded and unpacked drupal
[21:03] <shaun__> is xampp ok for what we're doing here
[21:03] <shaun__> ?
[21:03] <newz2000> it's good for a nice simple system that doesn't intrude on the normal operation of your computer
[21:04] <newz2000> I've not used it for a while myself so it's not fresh in my memory though
[21:04] <newz2000> where did you install it to?
[21:04] <shaun__> well how do I use drupal (drupal is a bit new to me)
[21:05] <newz2000> find out where you want to put it, unzip it (or untar)
[21:05] <newz2000> cd sites/default
[21:05] <shaun__> I unzipped it to /var/www
[21:05] <newz2000> ok. That may not be the normal place for xampp, but it's a start
[21:05] <newz2000> cd /var/www/sites/default
[21:05] <shaun__> no that's where I installed drupal
[21:05] <newz2000> you should see a sample config file there
[21:05] <newz2000> yeah, but xampp may not see it there, but it's ok for now
[21:06] <newz2000> Do you see the sample config file?
[21:08] <shaun__> Oh I'm sorry I actually installed it to /opt
[21:09] <newz2000> ok, good
[21:09] <newz2000> /opt/lampp/htdocs is a great place to put it
[21:09] <newz2000> do you have /opt/lampp/htdocs/drupal/ ?
[21:10] <shaun__> no but I could move drupal from /var/www to that path
[21:10] <newz2000> it'd be easier if you moved it there
[21:10] <shaun__> ok
[21:10] <shaun__> hey thanks for the help
[21:11] <newz2000> then cd /opt/lampp/htdocs/drupal/sites/default
[21:11] <newz2000> ls to see the sample config file
[21:11] <newz2000> I think it's default.settings.php
[21:12] <newz2000> cp default.settings.php settings.php
[21:12] <newz2000> then edit it to add the database options
[21:13] <newz2000> if you don't know the database settings then start xampp and go to http://localhost and I think it will give you a list of helpful info
[21:22] <shaun__> this might sound like a "doh!" question but add database settings where (I'm done with everything else)
[21:23] <newz2000> shaun__: in that file is a line that says $db_url = ...
[21:23] <newz2000> you need to edit that one
[21:23] <newz2000> it's remarkably well buried
[21:24] <shaun__> found it
[21:25] <shaun__> it says ...  $db_url = 'mysql://username:password@localhost/databasename';
[21:25] <shaun__> so I change it to where drupal is or where mysql is?
[21:25] <newz2000> you need to use your mysql settings that xampp suggests
[21:25] <shaun__> OH DURRRR
[21:26] <shaun__> sorry
[21:26] <newz2000> no sweat
[21:31] <shaun__> well it's xampp isn't showing any helpful info
[21:32] <newz2000> shaun__: when you go to http://localhost do you get an information page so you know it worked?
[21:32] <shaun__> oh
[21:33] <shaun__> so it's showing xampps homepage so I'm finished?
[21:33] <newz2000> shaun__: well, you konw it works
[21:33] <newz2000> I think there's some tools that come with xampp that give you database access
[21:33] <newz2000> do you see something like that?
[21:33] <shaun__> phpmyadmin is there
[21:34] <newz2000> ok, you'll want to go there and create a database for drupal
[21:34] <newz2000> you can just call it drupal
[21:35] <shaun__> database made
[21:35] <newz2000> ok, so go to your drupal settings.php file
[21:36] <newz2000> that line should be something like this:
[21:36] <newz2000> $db_url = 'mysql://root:@localhost/drupal';
[21:36] <newz2000> (assuming no password)
[21:36] <newz2000> Then you can probably go to http://localhost/drupal to see the site
[21:41] <shaun__> darn it says object not foudn
[21:41] <shaun__> found*
[21:42] <MTecknology> hi
[21:42] <shaun__> hello
[21:43] <MTecknology> newz2000: root:@localhost/drupal  <- really?
[21:43] <MTecknology> that sounds.. bad
[21:43] <newz2000> MTecknology: that's the default for xampp I think
[21:43] <newz2000> it's only meant for local dev, not for public sites
[21:43] <newz2000> shaun__: http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html#
[21:44] <MTecknology> newz2000: i suppose - I just like to always make a user for a db instead of having things wide open
[21:46] <shaun__> well I think I found the problem
[21:47] <shaun__> Do I need to do anything with the DB upon creation of it
[21:47] <newz2000> no, as long as your settings.php is right drupal will do the rest
[21:47] <shaun__> then there's my problem
[21:48] <newz2000> sorry, got to step away for a few min
[21:48] <shaun__> ok
[22:19] <newz2000> I'm back if you still need help
[22:20] <knome> wow, what a match
[22:28] <shaun__> yep
[22:28] <knome> ghana should
[22:28] <knome> have won
[22:28] <knome> really
[22:28] <knome> i feel like unsportmanship has won, even if gyan failed to score the goal himself
[22:28] <knome> it should have been a goal without a penalty shot
[22:29] <shaun__> still need help
[22:29] <shaun__> I've found out that apache isn't in the xampp folder
[22:29] <shaun__> unless I'm looking in the wrong place
[22:30] <newz2000> how did you start xampp
[22:30] <newz2000> shaun__: ^
[22:30] <shaun__> well I don't know
[22:30] <shaun__> let me look again
[22:31] <shaun__> where would it usually be do  you know
[22:31] <newz2000> try this:
[22:31] <newz2000> /opt/lampp/lampp stop
[22:31] <newz2000> everything should shut down, http://localhost should give an error
[22:31] <newz2000> confirmed?
[22:31] <shaun__> confirmed stop yes
[22:32] <newz2000> http://localhost no longer works?
[22:32] <shaun__> correct
[22:33] <newz2000> ok, so /opt/lampp/lampp start
[22:33] <newz2000> confirm that http://localhost works
[22:33] <shaun__> yep
[22:33] <newz2000> once that works, please try http://locahost/newz2000-rocks
[22:34] <newz2000> and confirm that you get a page not found (404) error
[22:34] <shaun__> ???? >:|
[22:34] <shaun__> sorry
[22:34] <shaun__> just had to get that out of my system
[22:34] <shaun__> loll
[22:34] <newz2000> I had to come up with something that was guaranteed to get a 404. ;-)
[22:34] <knome> newz2000, doesnotworkforme
[22:35] <newz2000> knome: are you testing xampp too?
[22:35] <knome> newz2000, no, but http://localhost/newz2000-rocks does not give a 404
[22:35] <shaun__> yeah it's actually a page I think
[22:35] <knome> yeah
[22:35] <knome> it says
[22:35] <knome> "just kidding"
[22:36] <newz2000> well, I just want to make sure you recognize a 404 error page. Some systems make them so pretty you dn't realize it's a 404
[22:36] <shaun__> oh nevermind I typed it in wrong
[22:36] <shaun__> yep it recegnizes it
[22:36] <shaun__> recognizes*
[22:37] <newz2000> wait, what?
[22:38] <shaun__> I already know because when I run http://localhost/drupal I get a 404
[22:39] <newz2000> ok, that's what I'm getting at
[22:39] <newz2000> so now in your terminal go to /opt/lampp/htdocs
[22:39] <newz2000> create a file called newz2000.php
[22:39] <newz2000> inside put:
[22:39] <newz2000> <?php phpinfo(); ?>
[22:39] <newz2000> save and close it
[22:39] <newz2000> then go to http://localhost/newz2000.php
[22:43] <newz2000> you should get a nice long php diagnostic page
[22:44] <newz2000> if not, then we don't know what your document root is, and when we find that, move your drupal folder there
[22:44] <knome> (or create a symlink there)
[22:45] <shaun__> yeah that worked
[22:45] <newz2000> shaun__: ok, so ls -1 /opt/lampp/htdocs and paste the output to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[22:50] <shaun__> it's there
[22:50] <newz2000> where?
[22:50] <newz2000> shaun__: after you paste it and submit you need to tell the url
[22:50] <shaun__> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[22:51] <newz2000> the url you get after you submit
[22:51] <shaun__> 458502/
[22:51] <newz2000> oh, ok
[22:51] <newz2000> mv drupal-6.17 drupal
[22:51] <newz2000> then your url should work
[22:53] <shaun__> the page shows the word "deprecated" a couple hundreds lines
[22:54] <shaun__> e.g. Deprecated: Function ereg() is deprecated in /opt/lampp/htdocs/drupal/includes/file.inc on line 926
[22:56] <shaun__> what does thsi mean
[22:57] <newz2000> shaun__: oh, right, you probably need to hit http://localhost/drupal/install.php
[22:58] <newz2000> ereg is deprecated, eh? I guess that's a good thing
[23:00] <shaun__> Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /opt/lampp/htdocs/drupal/includes/file.inc:926) in /opt/lampp/htdocs/drupal/includes/install.inc on line 618
[23:01] <newz2000> I'm sorry, my php is getting rusty... there's a way to hide deprecation warnings. You need to do that.
[23:01] <newz2000> It will probably be in /opt/lamp/[something]/php.ini
[23:02] <shaun__> ok I think I remember how to do that
[23:02] <shaun__> what language do you use?
[23:02] <newz2000> Php, python, javascript, html, css
[23:02] <shaun__> ewww python
[23:02] <knome> i mostly use finnish and english
[23:02] <knome> ;]
[23:02] <shaun__> sorry it's just too complicated
[23:02] <shaun__> lol
[23:02] <newz2000> yeah, well, try using django to do a couple web apps and then switch to php
[23:02] <knome> python is not too complicated
[23:03] <newz2000> you're perspective will reverse
[23:03] <shaun__> oh
[23:03] <shaun__> so you suggest trying python
[23:03] <newz2000> check out python / django or ruby on rails
[23:03] <shaun__> ok
[23:03] <newz2000> I wouldn't normally choose python or ruby for web apps but both of those let you focus on the fun parts of app dev
[23:04] <shaun__> but for now I'll stick with php I'm used to it because of c++
[23:04] <shaun__> I used to dabble in c++
[23:04] <knome> and knowing python and not php lets you not interact with drupal
[23:04] <newz2000> shaun__: /opt/lampp/etc/php.ini
[23:04] <newz2000> search for the word error
[23:04] <newz2000> maybe error_reporting or something like that
[23:05] <newz2000> maybe set it to E_ALL
[23:06] <knome> error_reporting = E_ALL & ~E_DEPRECATED
[23:07] <dieki> The paste.ubuntu.com site is really bad; I've created a modified CSS file for it that makes it match the new branding. Can it be considered for use on paste.ubuntu.com? (Example of page: http://bit.ly/cQ0ESc )
[23:07] <newz2000> dieki: yes, I'd love to recommend that
[23:07] <newz2000> dieki: would you put it into a branch in launchpad and send me the link?
[23:07] <dieki> Sure.
[23:09] <shaun__> ; error_reporting
[23:09] <shaun__> ;   Default Value: E_ALL & ~E_NOTICE
[23:09] <shaun__> ;   Development Value: E_ALL | E_STRICT
[23:09] <shaun__> ;   Production Value: E_ALL & ~E_DEPRECATED
[23:09] <shaun__> // This is what's already there
[23:09] <newz2000> remove the semicolon from the last option
[23:09] <dieki> Is there an existing branch for paste.ubuntu.com that I should branch off of?
[23:09] <knome> shaun__, those are all comments
[23:09] <shaun__> oh DUH
[23:09] <newz2000> dieki: I don't know where it is but I suspect so
[23:15] <shaun__> I can't edit php.ini for some stupid reason
[23:15] <newz2000> try sudo
[23:15] <knome> shaun__, try with sudo
[23:15] <shaun__> already did it's blank when it opens
[23:16] <newz2000> guys, sorry, but I must take off. Get some food and do some relaxing.
[23:16] <shaun__> ok
[23:16] <newz2000> I'll be online over the weekend for sure though
[23:16] <shaun__> I'll look into how to do this
[23:20] <dieki> Hm... I can't find a branch for that anywhere.
[23:56] <Viper550> What forum scripts do the LoCo sites usually use?