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CIA-99[libqapt] jmthomas * 1145443 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (backend.cpp backend.h globals.h package.cpp package.h) Implement an undo/redo stack, with undo functions, redo functions, and various ways to save/restore states manually. (Ported from synaptic ;)01:31
valoriesynaptic has an undo?01:36
valorieI've never tried using it01:37
JontheEchidnaHidden away in an edit menu ;)01:38
JontheEchidna*in the edit menu01:38
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valorieright, I found it01:38
valorieif only that would help in installing ubuntuone-kde01:39
JontheEchidnaSynaptic's backend code actually isn't half bad. Some of the organization/API is a bit iffy, and it's obvious it was written by GNOMEies, but otherwise it is a great reference01:39
valorieinstead, I'll wait for the apachelogger magic01:39
valorieright, I use it usually01:39
valorieit's a workhorse01:39
valorieugly, but usable01:39
JontheEchidnabut now, I can make muon automagically undo itself if you try to work things into a broken mess :x01:40
valorieI only use kpackagekit for little upgrades01:40
valorieever since it crashed and ruined my puter01:40
valorieI don't trust it01:40
valorieI shoulda used apt-get01:41
valoriemy bad.....01:41
valorieI got a nice fresh install out of it, so all's well that ends well01:42
JontheEchidnaKonversation being held in new queue has led to a valuable test case for me.01:42
JontheEchidnaSince it didn't go to new queue for all the other archs, as long as I don't check for updates I have a situation where trying to upgrade it without checks would break the package cache if it was allowed to go through01:43
JontheEchidnawhich is why I need to make muon check before blindly marking it, and restore the old state01:44
valorieI don't exactly understand, but "break the package cache" sounds serious01:44
JontheEchidnayou won't be able to install/remove anything until you resolve the dependency issue, basically01:44
lex79JontheEchidna: qtcreator is too big to upload for you? 17.4 MB01:46
JontheEchidnalex79: my mother is uploading vacation photos to Facebook, so she'd probably not like it if I tried :(01:46
valorieI've found that to be true anyway, unless you can force01:46
lex79ok no problem :)01:46
valoriewhich I choose not to do01:46
valorieI used to break my system rather regularly back when I used gentoo01:47
valorieand don't want to go there again01:47
JontheEchidna^I forced the removal of libgtk2.0-bin, but forced software-center to stay installed01:48
JontheEchidnawell, I didn't have to force the removal of libgtk2.0-bin, but I had to force software-center to stay installed ;)01:48
valorieBroken in red = :(01:49
JontheEchidnaI should use the html flash code :D01:49
JontheEchidna*flash tag01:49
valorieoh, how I miss that01:49
valorieand the scrolling banners01:49
JontheEchidna<flash><color=red />BROKEN!</flash>01:50
valorieit made for such classy webpages01:50
JontheEchidnageocites... angelfire....01:50
valorieoh, Myspace.....01:50
JontheEchidnamyspace == embedded mp3's of crappy music playing way too loud01:51
valoriesome of those still exist01:51
valoriesometimes multiple mp3s!01:51
valorieand flashy little crap01:51
valoriedear lord it was awful01:51
JontheEchidnayay, muon stopped me from breaking konversation: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktopkj1560-jpg.jpg03:23
JontheEchidnanow I just have to show the user *why* it can't be done03:24
JontheEchidna...preferrably not while berating him/her03:24
CIA-99[muon] jmthomas * 1145455 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (6 files in 2 dirs) Don't allow actions that will break packages. Next up: A GUI to show why an action will break something03:25
valorieyes, calling people noobs is frowned upon!03:27
CIA-99[muon] jmthomas * 1145457 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/DetailsTabs/MainTab.cpp --debug03:30
JontheEchidnaoh, I suppose I could implement undo/redo in the gui too03:32
JontheEchidnabut maybe I'll just kick back for a bit and relax, satisfied with my not-broken package system03:34
* valorie passes out the Friday night beers03:35
macoJontheEchidna: its a <blink> tag not a <flash> tag05:55
NCommanderRiddell: morning05:55
macooh it is isnt it? its 7am there eh?05:56
valoriehe mixed the two horriblenesses05:58
NCommandermaco: we're at Akademy07:08
NCommanderor at least, he's supposed to be. I haven't seen him.07:08
macoi know you are07:08
NCommandermaco: :-)07:08
macoi assume finland is on the same timezone as france and germany?07:09
macoor is it one more?07:09
NCommanderits one over07:09
macooh so 9am there now07:10
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evilshadeslayerbetter :P07:22
evilshadeslayeroh oh kcm_kio is not installed in kde 4.5 07:23
evilshadeslayerso no more proxy configuration diaologs07:23
evilshadeslayerScottK: ^^07:25
evilshadeslayerif you can have a look ...07:25
tsimpsonis there no libsmokekde-dev in lucid?12:10
nigelbRemove all binary packages that have no rdepends or reverse-build-depends. We don't want to support this many packages when they have no rdepends and when we're on the doorstep of an LTS release.12:13
nigelbtsimpson: ^ from changelog of kde3bindings12:14
ulyssesstrange, there is lbsmokekde-dev in maverick, it's in universe12:14
tsimpsonit was in lucid (apparently) for 4.3.2, just not 4.412:15
shadeslayerRiddell: kdepim takes _alot_ of time to compile :(12:20
tsimpsonerm, I meant libsmokekde4-dev actually12:28
tsimpsonstill missing in lucid though12:28
tsimpsonalso, bug #60134012:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 601340 in kdebindings (Ubuntu) "libsmokeqt-dev and libsmokeqt4-dev should conflict" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60134012:44
tsimpsonre-emergence of bug #33007912:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 330079 in kdebindings (Ubuntu) "[jaunty] libsmokeqt4-2-dev conflicts with libsmokeqt-dev but doesn't have proper dependencies" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33007912:44
tsimpsonwell, similar not re-emergence12:44
Riddelltsimpson: what do you need it for?12:56
tsimpsonRiddell: nothing in particular, I just wanted to learn about smoke and kross today :)12:56
shadeslayerRiddell: i think.. kolab's gone :P12:57
shadeslayermust have been renamed or something12:57
shadeslayeroh btw does akademy have a OGG stream?13:00
nigelbRiddell: nice blog post.  <3 the last pic :)13:08
Riddelltsimpson: our packaging got merged with debian and I think debian don't package those headers and .so links becuase there's nothing that uses them (and often when nothing uses a library the ABI isn't as stable as it should be)13:12
shadeslayerRiddell: oh oh .. no proxy module in 4.5 packages13:14
shadeslayerRiddell: http://imagebin.ca/view/e0s1zpY.html13:14
Riddellshadeslayer: works for me13:21
Riddellpresumably you have something not installed13:21
shadeslayerRiddell: such as ?13:21
* shadeslayer pokes kubuntu-desktop13:22
shadeslayerseems so13:23
shadeslayeri didnt want rekonq,so i removed kubuntu-desktop,and now it has added deps13:23
Riddellrekonq should be a recommend, you can remove it without removing kubuntu-desktop13:23
shadeslayerRiddell: its a direct dep13:24
shadeslayerand the module is working now13:24
shadeslayerRiddell: http://pastebin.com/ipJg82Z413:24
Riddellryanakca: can you change the URL on this to news/maverick-alpha-2  ?  kubuntu.org/node/15913:29
ryanakcaRiddell: Done13:57
CIA-99[muon] jmthomas * 1145586 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (MainWindow.cpp muonui.rc) Initial bits for undo/redo. Still need to save state whenever we mark a package, though. (And I need to enable/disable it based on the undo stack size, which I may need to add methods for in libqapt)14:04
Riddellryanakca: do you use konqueror to do that?15:10
shadeslayeranyone heard of a DW1520 Wireless-N WLAN Half-mini card? any ideas how to make it work with K/Ubuntu? jockey doesnt list any drivers...15:26
shadeslayerRiddell: kdepim will take some time.... huge changes15:35
ScottKRiddell: qmf, qtmobility, and phonon-backend-vlc are all in New waiting for you ....16:04
shadeslayerkdepim is going to kill me.. single package taking so much time to modify16:09
shadeslayereither A) im doing something wrong , or B) kde devs went krazy16:10
shadeslayerprobably A ...16:10
shadeslayeror C) there really are so many changes16:10
ScottKD) All of the above16:12
shadeslayerScottK: can you do the kdepim-runtime package?16:14
shadeslayeror wait.. maybe it wants less changes16:14
ScottKshadeslayer: Not today.  I've got no free time at all.16:14
shadeslayerScottK: i have to manually check for each and every line in the *.install files16:15
shadeslayerim getting dh_install: cp -a debian/tmp/usr/lib/libkorg_stdprinting.so.4.5.0 debian/korganizer//usr/lib/ returned exit code 116:15
shadeslayerhave to go through install files one by one :(16:15
ScottKshadeslayer: The way I do that is log into a chroot, build the package in the chroot, then when it fails, you can inspect the build tree, fix the .install file and then run dpkg-buildpackage -nc -us -uc.  The .nc skips clean so it doesn't have to recompile again.16:16
ScottK .nc/-nc16:16
shadeslayerScottK: what im using is debuilld -nc16:17
shadeslayerwithout chroot...16:17
ScottKThat gets the same result.16:17
shadeslayerill build it in pdebuild tho.. later16:17
ScottKUsing maverick?16:17
shadeslayerScottK: yes,but fixing each install file line by line is insane16:17
shadeslayerScottK: yes :)16:17
ScottKWhat version are you packaging?16:18
shadeslayerScottK: 4.5 Beta 116:19
shadeslayerScottK: because maverick needs it?16:19
shadeslayerand Riddell asked :P16:19
ScottKI'd expect that one to be a lot different then.16:20
ScottKSo I'm not suprised it's painful, they just aren't all that hard.16:20
shadeslayerScottK: i have to check each and every line of install files... its not hard to fix.. just painfull :D16:21
* ScottK notes he doesn't find it particularly painful for shadeslayer to update tons of install files and heads out for the rest of his day ....16:22
shadeslayerhehehe :D16:23
ryanakcaRiddell: Yes16:28
ryanakcaRiddell: I'm guessing www-admin is still painfully broken on your end?16:28
macoshtylman's phone's voicemail is in russian17:15
macoending in spaciba17:20
macoer spociba17:20
shadeslayerRiddell: ill need help with kdenetwork,can you highlight me when your free...17:23
CIA-99[libqapt] jmthomas * 1145660 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/package.cpp The maintainer field can sometimes be UTF-8, so we must construct a QString as UTF-8 when retrieving the data from libapt-pkg18:46
CIA-99[libqapt] jmthomas * 1145662 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (backend.cpp backend.h) Add methods for determining the emptiness of the undo/redo stack (useful for enabling buttons) as well as a method to determine whether the package cache is broken or not18:49
lex79if someone can upload qtcreator is here: https://launchpad.net/~alessandro-ghersi/+archive/ppa/+packages18:49
CIA-99[muon] jmthomas * 1145663 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MuonStrings.h Compile fix. I hadn't noticed it due to CMake caching or something18:50
CIA-99[muon] jmthomas * 1145664 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/PackageModel/PackageView.cpp Fix the details widget randomly pop up on group switching18:50
CIA-99[muon] jmthomas * 1145665 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs) Add undo/redo actions to the GUI, as well as a messagebox telling the user when upgrades cannot be marked for whatever reason18:51
JontheEchidnaaw, almost had 5 commits in a row, numerically. I missed 1145661 though :(18:52
ScottKapachelogger: Did you see notmart's Akademy presentation.  There is what looks like a Fluffy screen shot in it.18:57
CIA-99[libqapt] jmthomas * 1145666 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/backend.cpp When we undo a change, prepend (not append) the current state to the redo stack, or else we can only ever redo to the state before the first undo19:02
CIA-99[muon] jmthomas * 1145668 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/TODO SVN_SILENT: TODO update19:05
ulyssesWhy doesn't exist koffice-l10n-hu package?:o19:18
JontheEchidnaI guess koffice 2.2 didn't release with -hu?19:19
JontheEchidnanope, no hu in the koffice-l10n 2.2.0 tarball :(19:23
ulysses6700 of 11658 messages are translated in stable, not enough:/19:24
ulyssesmaybe it releases only the completed translations like Catalan19:26
ulyssesin this case it should be translated:P19:30
shadeslayer_lex79: poke19:33
shadeslayer_lex79: http://pastebin.com/hZg9Q1PT19:33
shadeslayer_where do i put the first one?19:33
shadeslayer_bah.. ill take this up tommorow .. huge headache ...-.-19:35
lex79oh, he left19:36
CIA-99[libqapt] jmthomas * 1145672 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/backend.cpp Clear the undo/redo stacks on cache reload19:50
CIA-99[muon] jmthomas * 1145675 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (3 files in 2 dirs) Fix a bug where the first package clicked wouldn't show the details widget19:55
CIA-99[muon] jmthomas * 1145676 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (MainWindow.cpp MainWindow.h muonui.rc) Add a revert all changes button to the toolbar and menu19:55
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mfraz74Can someone confirm an odd problem I'm having in KDE 4.5?20:48
mfraz74If I move an email from one folder to another in KMail, afterwards the window will scroll to the top.20:49
mfraz74also happens in Amarok. If I delete a song from somewhere near the bottom, after deleting it will scroll to the top of the window20:50
ulyssesI deleted two song from the playlist, nothing happened20:51
JontheEchidnaI moved a message from down the list to the trash in kmail, nothing happened20:52
mfraz74not in the playlist, but in the local music list20:52
ulyssesI deleted a song, then it jumped at the bottom20:53
mfraz74ok, in kmail, i'm in my inbox sorted by date, i delete an email from the bottom and it instanty moved to the top20:53
mfraz74ulysses: so, what do i file that bug against?20:54
ulyssesI don't know, I'm looking now for a Klipper bug20:56
ubottuKDE bug 243467 in general "klipper opens actions menu twice" [Normal,Unconfirmed]20:56
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: can I show you code that will make you br0kenlogger?20:57
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: you can, however I do doubt that you want to ^^21:07
apacheloggerScottK: where is that to be seen?21:08
JontheEchidnabehold the ugliness that synaptic stole from apt-get to aid in determining why a package can't be installed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/458876/21:08
apacheloggershadeslayer: assuming you mean the protocol file -> the standard protocol install path which is somewhere in usr/share/kde4 21:09
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: hm21:10
JontheEchidnaat its deepest point the statements is 7 levels deep21:11
JontheEchidnabut the indenting isn't even consistent21:11
apacheloggerare they serious about that?21:11
JontheEchidnaapt was written by crack junkies :P21:11
ubottuKDE bug 243535 in general "deleting/moving email in kmail makes message list jump to first email" [Normal,Unconfirmed]21:11
apachelogger         if (Start != End)21:13
apachelogger         if (Start == End)21:13
apachelogger            break;21:13
apacheloggerthe particular word combination here is nice :D21:14
apacheloggerif we are starting at the end, we are broken ^^21:14
JontheEchidnaoh, that's part of the loop that the while loop is inside :P21:15
JontheEchidnathe whole shebang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/458882/21:15
JontheEchidnaactually, it's part of the while loop21:16
JontheEchidnait increments the loop its inside inside itself21:16
apacheloggerI like how they name variables like classes21:19
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: isn't Start == End condition to end of while loop there?21:20
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: yeah21:20
JontheEchidnaI think21:20
apacheloggerthat is super odd21:20
apacheloggeralso I would make that for anyway, since they are itering21:21
apacheloggerThis is very mad.21:21
JontheEchidnaI thought you might like it :P21:21
apacheloggeryeah, luv it :D21:21
* apachelogger closes it before running into an out of memory error from too large stack21:22
apacheloggerdoctor who21:22
apacheloggerEdge of destruction21:22
apacheloggersounds a bit scary21:22
JontheEchidnaoh ya, that was a neat one21:23
JontheEchidnathe whole ep is inside the tardis iirc21:23
JontheEchidnaI've watched the first series up to the episode where they become tiny21:24
* apachelogger likes how silly the TARDIS looks ^^21:24
mfraz74i remember that episode21:26
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: btw, those slides Scott was talking about: http://www.notmart.org/index.php/BlaBla/Akademy_talk:_Slides_on_the_Plas21:30
neversfeldeRiddell: do you know when koffice 2.2.1 is going to be released?21:32
apacheloggerScottK, JontheEchidna: that is no fluff - it is inferior to fluffy :P21:32
apacheloggerah, the doctor looks like rambo! ^^21:33
apacheloggernot that doctor21:34
apacheloggerthe old geezer doctor :P21:34
ulyssesis there any stream about the Akademy?21:35
lummgajim causes a empty x window here which craches plasma if i close it.21:41
lummalltray as well21:42
lummwith rc 121:44
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blueyedIs amarok known failing to start with the beta ppa?22:33
Riddellneversfelde: I don't know when koffice is going to be released but personally I never wait I just upload it, it's not worth the hassle of coordinating releases23:16
lex79Riddell: can you upload qtcreator from akademy? :)23:17
Riddelllex79: yes although probably not until monday23:19
lex79oh well, I will ask around and if the 23:19
lex79*they can't..I will reask you :)23:19
neversfeldeRiddell: k, packaging is finished, I'll do some upgrade testing and push to bzr and ninjas23:26
Riddellneversfelde: for maverick?23:27
neversfeldeRiddell: yes23:27
neversfeldeLucid ist still todo23:27
* neversfelde took a soccer break :)23:27

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