[00:46] nearly every app that is using opengl is setting the wrong resolution/frequency for my screen [00:46] and i have to restart x... [00:50] bonsoir === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [00:56] its really annoying me [00:56] i can't use half my games... === funkyHat_ is now known as funkyHat [01:26] my gwibber doesn't display any tweet [01:26] the main windows is blank [01:28] mine works atm [01:28] what version? [01:29] let me see [01:30] 2.31.1 [01:31] its dying some times [01:31] race condiion [01:31] Andre_Gondim: kill it, make sure its not running (ps axuw | grep gwib [01:32] then launch in debug: gwibber-service -d -o [01:32] followed by gwibber -d in another shell, once 1st end syncing [01:32] * gnomefreak uses ps aux |grep [01:33] I use psx [01:33] alias love [01:33] BUGabundo, do you want the first or second shell? [01:33] none [01:34] its you who want it to run fine [01:34] if its crashing, find out why [01:34] btw, twitter api is down and StatusNet released 0.9.3 [01:35] if it isnt workin gwhen running in term. file a bug using ubuntu-bug [01:35] BUGabundo, but identi.ca does no appears... [01:36] wfm with dailly ppa [01:36] Installed: 2.31.2~bzr750-0ubuntu1~daily1 [01:36] Andre_Gondim: which kernel? [01:36] mine too [01:36] desktop couch was having a probs a few weeks ago [01:36] 2.6.35 [01:36] maybe u are on an older kernel? [01:37] Linux BluBUG 2.6.35-6-generic #9-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jul 1 03:01:23 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux [01:37] I did a fresh install yestarday [01:37] ah [01:37] Linux andregondim-eti-br 2.6.35-6-generic #9-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jul 1 03:01:23 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux [01:37] ok [01:37] so pastebin the traces [01:57] BUGabundo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/458558/ [01:57] error: (6, 'name lookup timed out') [01:58] haven't seen any of those in a whyel [01:58] *while [01:58] plus Ica is up [01:58] could be the new api [01:58] andersk: can you try trunk? [01:58] just bzr branch it [01:58] you said ppa? [01:59] and start from ./gwibber/bin/gwibber-service and same for gwibber [01:59] well, ppa will replace yours [01:59] bzr won't [01:59] how can I use the trunk [01:59] ? [01:59] bzr won't [02:00] bzr branch lp:gwibber [02:01] brb [02:02] use the daily PPA not bzr if you dont plan i making changes to code [02:05] uhmm so in the morning my vm with btrfs messes up from alternate CD probably since how the Internet connection went or something. I have just done one though, and logged in twice, and second time I am trying to do updates, and yeah it seems that has just crashed on me. I guess closing the vm down and trying again may do it though. On the subject of btrfs I haven't read up on it properly yet. I know its just a file system so under the hood, [02:05] so not meant to be expecting anything graphical? What about snapshots how is that done, terminal? [02:11] Well lets find out if I can do updates. At least I didn't have to 100% start over, since I could change the two partitions that were there from when I first tried. [02:12] Also this vm gives me a little error message, when I start it. [02:13] Or whatever that is. [02:27] good evening i have a question about maverick, using alpha2 of the netbook edition, running under VirtualBox and when starting up I am prompted with a screen prompting me to either run Ubuntu Netbook or Install, after selecting run, the screen flashes dark and then i get nothing more then a background [02:31] From alternate ISO above, not CD, and the updates are installed :) (and back in the vm account after a reboot) [02:31] jjesse_: uhmm [02:31] sorry dropped network connection [02:31] jjesse_: yes I saw [02:32] right Unity and alpha 2 and Virtualbox === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [02:32] I haven't tried myself yet, but other people have [02:32] uh I think you missed that [02:32] I haven't tried myself yet, but other people have [02:32] and they had problems [02:32] is unity = to netbook or slightly different? [02:33] Alpha 2 is using Unity by default [02:33] for the Netbook Edition [02:33] since i don't usually use ubuntu (normally a kubuntu uesr) is the "install" window new to maverick? [02:33] and it wants a computer that can do 3D straight away, according to a bug thread that is linked to from the alpha2 page [02:34] jjesse: if you mean the ISO, its been quite a while now, if not a rather long time even, where can try from the CD/ISO in a live session or just install, and I mean the desktop version [02:35] i understand that [02:35] in kubuntu the selection to either install or boot from the live cd is still text based, not in a window [02:35] you mean the graphical installer? [02:35] alternate ISO is text based [02:35] i understand that [02:37] I don't normally use the netbook versions, but I did test the beta or whatever for Lucid, and I had a vm of 10.10 alpha 1 netbook as well as desktop, and not tried alpha 2 yet in vm, but I have a feeling I won't get far with it, since the lack of 3D support [02:37] http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/3013/screenqi.png is the screen that looks different from kubuntu to ubuntu [02:38] ubiquity is letting me do the install, so curious as to what happens [02:38] jjesse: ah yes that [02:38] sorry if i didn't explain myself [02:38] the alternate CD is like before with the languages and count down for 10.10 alpha 2 [02:38] is that screen new to maverick or did it come out w/ lucid? [02:39] like i said i am normally a kubuntu user [02:39] The thing your showing me in the screenshot came with 10.04 [02:39] intersting [02:39] jjesse: the installer for Ubuntu 10.04 also improved quite a bit [02:39] a nice slideshow [02:39] so i'm seeing [02:39] well improved slideshow over the 9.10 one [02:39] all things lacking in kubuntu :( [02:40] well kubuntu has a slideshow but not as good [02:40] however for 10.10 they are planning on doing a completly new installer [02:40] jjesse: indeed they focus on Gnome mainly, and KDE hardly at all [02:40] loads of people on the web complain about that even [02:40] and on IRC even at times [02:41] jjesse: I know this is an offical Ubuntu channel and all that, so maybe I shoudn't reallly mention it here, but theres a Mint KDE RC now. and from a screenshot it looked pretty good, I haven't vm'd tried yet. [02:42] Mint Gnome uh no thanks for me, but Mint KDE probably isn't that bad. [02:42] I think the kubuntu devs would disagree with you about how much time is spent working on kubuntu [02:42] i agree [02:43] i help out w/ kubuntu devs and also maintain the kubuntu-docs package :) [02:43] jjesse: its ashame really about Kubuntu though how for example it won't have a QT version of the Software Centre [02:43] I meant Canonical don't focus on it [02:43] I personally don't use kubuntu because I don't like the kde environment but I know people who do work on the project and they work hard [02:43] I read before that apparnatly it only has two Canonical devs [02:43] kubuntu hasn't had a decent package manager in a long time [02:44] Canonical officially supports and sponsors kubuntu. [02:44] canonical only pays 2 devs but officially supports kubuntu [02:44] but i am sorry for digressing the channel [02:44] jjesse: yeah we went a tad offtopic [02:44] but I felt it was worth giving props to the kubuntu devs [02:44] jjesse: well there was hardly anything going on here anyway, but yeah we went a bit offtopic [02:45] devs/volunteers [02:45] well we will see what happens in a minute when my install finishes :) [02:45] IdleOne: <3 [02:45] * jjesse hugs JontheEchidna [02:45] JontheEchidna: :) [02:45] why are you hiding here johslarsen [02:45] don [02:45] doh [02:45] why are you hding here JontheEchidna [02:46] so that I can help the kubuntu types when they run +1 ;) [02:47] JontheEchidna: is there a kubuntu+1 channel? [02:47] IdleOne: nope, #ubuntu+1 is recommended [02:47] ok [02:47] good to know [02:47] JontheEchidna: Are you a Kubuntu dev? [02:47] sebsebseb: volunteer, yes [02:47] yes he is [02:48] ok attack of the Kubuntu devs :D [02:48] :P [02:48] The Kubuntu Ninjas hide in wait ;) [02:49] so do the ops [02:49] yep [02:49] IdleOne: no ther ehasnt been for a while [02:50] gnomefreak: #k+1 you mean? [02:50] IdleOne: yes [02:50] it was around for a month or so [02:51] gnomefreak: So this snapshot stuff with btrfs how to do that? [02:51] sebsebseb: dont understand what you mean by how to do that? [02:52] it will be if not already added to the installer [02:52] well I got a vm now with btrfs and I am wondering how to do stuff with btrfs, I guess I will need to do some reading or whatever [02:53] Can someone confirm that right clicking a channel entry in channels tree in xchat doesn't show "Add to Favorites" option? [02:53] sebsebseb: would be a good idea. Since it is so new to us i dont think there is a guide or if that many people that use it to be advised to [02:53] Sensiva: I have the option [02:53] xchat or xchat-gnome [02:53] IdleOne installed from repos? [02:53] xchat for me [02:53] gnomefreak xchat by zed [02:54] Sensiva: yes from repos, xchat-common to be precise [02:54] i dont have that option using xchat on Mozilla servers [02:54] gnomefreak: well there was a btrfs guy / filesystem guy around, but hes not active here at the moment [02:54] IdleOne did you try to compile from source once before? [02:54] Sensiva: never [02:54] hmm [02:55] gnomefreak: your second bit, your saying loads of people shoudn't be using it? [02:55] I have always used the xchat-common from repos [02:55] Sensiva: no clue who you are reffering to [02:55] so gnomefreak doesn't have the option, and IdleOne and me have it [02:55] Sensiva: no i meant was not that many people have used it i suspect [02:55] and I tried check on a vbox and it wasn't there [02:55] Sensiva: I came accros a couple of people in #xchat that did not have it either [02:56] Sensiva: right clicking on a channel? [02:56] IdleOne 32 or 64? [02:56] 64 [02:56] gnomefreak right clicking on a channel entry in the tree [02:56] gnomefreak: did you just message Sensiva instead of me by mistake? [02:56] gnomefreak: right click on channel name in tree [02:57] IdleOne: i dont have that option i only have a couple of things [02:57] in maverick correct? [02:57] gnomefreak arch? 32/64? [02:57] sebsebseb: sorry that was for you [02:57] 32bit maverick yes [02:57] gnomefreak: thought so [02:57] Thank you all [02:57] it seems it is lost in 32 builds [02:57] Sensiva: so did we pass? [02:57] thought so [02:58] IdleOne yes sure you passed ;) [02:58] IdleOne: using what I just used [02:58] it is a very useful feature and should be put back [03:29] IdleOne do you already have favorite channels in the list? === ddecator_ is now known as ddecator [06:37] Automatic kernel cleaner-upper this version? [07:09] hmm latest maverick backported-lucid kernel seems to be stablest so for for i915 with i855 chipset === Me is now known as Guest13091 === Me is now known as Guest80624 [13:18] I have a dual boot setup, Vista and Ubuntu, afaik the Grub boot loader is on the Vista harddrive, but I want to move the Grub boot loader over to the hardrive containing the Ubuntu installation. How can I move the boot loader over from one harddrive to the other? [13:19] I plan to reformat and reinstall Vista harddrive, but do not want to disturb my dual boot setup. [13:19] HappyNwb: Using Maverick? [13:19] It's a general question I guess. Any way will do. [13:20] Then it's more appropriate for #ubuntu I guess. [13:21] Is #ubuntu an other irc channel? [13:21] What is this one for? I thought this channel was for Ubuntu in general [13:22] this is #ubuntu+1. as the topic says, it's for ubuntu alpha/beta discussion. [13:22] HappyNwb: this one is for the next release for ubuntu, mainly testing and feedback [15:06] where can i download the ubuntu 10.10 dvd iso? [15:06] /TOPIC [15:07] perlsyntax: http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/ubuntu/10.10/alpha-2/ [15:07] thanks:) [15:07] !dailies [15:07] !daily [15:07] Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [15:07] all i see is cd image. [15:08] I don't think there are DVD images yet [15:08] that what i was looking for. [15:09] I hope ubuntu don't have prob with black sceen like 10.04 [15:09] perlsyntax: Scroll down. [15:09] i see it now. [15:09] lol@me [15:11] anyone have prob with the ubuntu 10.10? [15:12] :D let hope not [15:15] is 10.10 using gnome 3 ? [15:17] BluesKaj: it won't use gnome-shell by default [15:24] iddo, excellent , thanks... I'm thinking of switching my desktop from kde to the new gnome 2.3 , altho i still object to default top of the screen panel , is a bottom panel optional yet / [15:25] ? [15:26] <----- old windows guy...old habits die hard :) [15:26] btw if u use laptop then unity is the new default, vertical panel on left, good for wide screen space [15:27] i think gnome-shell has activities on left, and panel on top [15:28] but old gnome-panel you could move to bottom without problems [15:28] I have a laptop but I don't experiment with it , iddo ...my desktop is where do my fooling around, so to speak [15:29] ok if u like to experiment then u can install alpha2 and then try to apt-get install gnome-shell [15:29] I also have an ubuntu server on the network for media and backup [15:30] the desktop image still comes with compiz by default [15:30] iddo , do you recommend removing kubuntu-desktop/kde ? [15:31] u mean first dist-upgrade instead of clean install? [15:33] i guess dist-upgrade from kubuntu will install latest kde, but i guess gnome-shell will be in repositories? [15:33] yeah i was thinking of a do-release upgrade -d , and then sudo sed -i 's/lucid/maverick/' /etc/apt/sources.list , then installing gnome-shell , after removing kde ...complicated , maybe I'll mess up [15:36] some people like to keep /home on different partition for their configs and do clean install for / parition [15:37] or u can just backup your home dir stuff and do clean install, probably less chance to have problems this way, especially if u plan to switch from kde to gnome anyway [15:38] if u really want to experiment u can install with btrfs filesystem instead of ext4 [15:39] iddo, yeah i'll just do clean install, and any nondefault apps save the config files anyway ... ext4 is experimental enough for me [15:40] as long as i don't format, that is. [15:41] why not format? [15:42] no need [15:42] clean install without format? [15:42] yes [15:42] no need for backing up files [15:43] so u delete dirs in / ? [15:44] I'll drop to a tty and remove kde [15:44] no i don't delete dirs [15:44] i think we have different meanings to the term clean install [15:45] not really my clean install isn't actually a proper clean install as such, it's more .like [15:45] a reinstall [15:47] what happens if u dont delete /usr and so on, and then do new install there? [15:47] i think the installer doesnt let u proceed without format [15:47] i have done clean installs after formatting tho , but sometimes just a reinstall is necessary after stuff breaks and can't be fixed [15:48] iddo, yes it does, one just uses manual partitioning [15:49] BBL [16:40] anyone running btrfs on a SSD/ [17:05] Why can't I remove PulseAudio without removing Ubuntu-Desktop? [17:05] soadkombucha: ubuntu-desktop is a meta package. you can safely remove it and then re-install later [17:06] soadkombucha: no it is not the entire desktop [17:06] it is basically a list of packages that need to be installed [17:06] Let me try a reboot after "sudo apt-get autoremove pulseaudio" and "sudo ./realtekaudiodrivers.sh" to see if I have sound [17:07] when you install ubuntu-desktop it calls a list of packages. those packages get installed. when you remove ubuntu-desktop it removes only the list [17:07] err [17:07] other than bootdmesg what other file would hold plymouth errors? [17:08] * gnomefreak cant find any to save my life [17:09] you may not want to remove *-desktop packages on devel cycle [17:09] win 18 [17:11] OK so still no udio I'm removing the source and reextracting the tar files [17:16] Hmmm no luck [17:20] OK I don't have ANY sound, and alsamixer won't load [17:22] ok, if anybody buys one of the wd "green" drives, you have to use the wdidle dos app to turn off the autopark feature, because the drive heads move into park position in a way that is incompatible with the linux kernel's timing [17:23] hmm that's annoying, no way to do it from hdparm? [17:27] Are there going to be lots of problems if I downgrade the kernel?? [17:32] you should always have at least 2 kernels in grub [17:34] be back in a few [18:53] installation from alternate daily fails during getting software: libmono depends on mono-runtime (<2.4.4) but 2.3.6 is to be installed - against what package do I report that bug? === booboo is now known as coz_ [18:57] guntbert: mono-runtime [18:58] guntbert: ubuntu-bug mono-runtime [18:59] gnomefreak: thx - but why against mono-runtime and not against libmono? (I want some education here :-)) [18:59] guntbert: it is the package not the lib [19:00] gnomefreak: ok, thx [19:18] gnomefreak: it was mono, not mono-runtime :-) #601437 [19:19] guntbert: that is why ubuntu-bug package will help you with it [19:20] guntbert: mono is a big mess of packages/libs [19:20] gnomefreak: yeah, but it isn't available in the installation system :-) [19:20] guntbert: never said it was but it should be in the desktop installer [19:21] gnomefreak: no problem -- you pointed me in the right direction - the rest I go myself :-) [20:17] hmm the benchmark on disk util for a virtual disk is funny; it varies between 21MB/s and 2.6GB/s - and gives an average of 91MB/s === yofel_ is now known as yofel [21:10] appears the medibuntu repos won't install in the package manager, looking for a ppa for the sources.list , but launchpad doesn't seem to have one. === IceDeep_ is now known as Ice_Deep [21:40] BluesKaj: I looked, but medibuntu seems to have no maverick repo yet [21:43] ok guntbert , it confirms my searches , thanks for checking [21:43] BluesKaj: :) [21:45] where do i find desktop effects settings in ubuntu ?, I'm trying gnome out again after many yrs [21:47] BluesKaj: system->preferences->appareance->visual effects [21:47] i found some visual effects in system preferences/appearance [21:48] BluesKaj: there is compizconfig-settings-manager and I think simple-ccsm as well; one of those should let you tweak everything [21:48] oh gotta install csm again, ok [21:50] * penguin42 doesn't use compiz myself [21:50] yeah, not a compiz fan, but do like the effects kde4 can provic=de [21:52] I'm impressed with ubuntu LAN networking so far tho , which is important in our setup [21:53] in what sense? [21:53] we have ubuntu-server running in the TV room, which Ive loaded up with movies from wife's windows pc [21:56] not finished with the sever setup yet but the media options are working fine , now i just have figure how t give the family remote access ..they use windows and mac [22:01] Can I get nouveau dri experimental acceleration in 10.10 ? === Blizzzek is now known as Blizzz [22:10] argh, stupid Unity. [22:10] The thing only lets me launch a grand total of 9 applications: [22:11] Firefox, Evolution (which I don't use), Cheese, Empathy (don't use), File Manager, Help, App Center, Rhythmbox (don't use), and gnome-terminal. [22:11] There's literally no way to launch anything else. [22:12] There's a search box that does nothing, and contains unchangeable contents "Search"\ [22:14] DanaG: Sheesh, you've got a terminal what else do you want [22:15] hehe .. it's alpha .. don't complain :D [22:15] Still, it seems mine is more broken than anyone else's is. [22:16] I've seen screenshots of it showing lists of applications, I think -- but there's not any such thing for me. [22:17] on meerkat, X suddenly seems slower to me today (nouveau) [22:18] Argh, can't type in search box. [22:21] oh, updated unity, finally now it actually gives me ICONS! [22:21] Imagine that! [22:21] SEarching still doesn't work, though. [22:21] somepeople want everything [22:22] Well, I'd wanted at least more than NOTHING, which was what I had before. [22:22] I had a search box that did nothing, and no way to launch any app not on the left sidebar. [22:29] Now, I have a list of SOME applications, but still a search box that does nothing.