=== bburhans_ is now known as bburhans [03:42] IdleOne: official representative of Canada? right [03:43] just as you are for India [03:43] :-) [03:43] and me for the USA [03:44] heh [03:44] valorie: IdleOne is from quebec, I was about to pull his leg about it :D [03:44] oooo, Quebecois! [05:14] nigelb, he did say "the canadas" [05:16] nicely spied, elky [05:16] * valorie calls up the FBI [05:16] ;-) [05:32] elky: you saw that huh [05:40] elky: heh [05:40] elky: good one ;) [10:04] aloha [10:19] czajkowski: good morning! Hows your weekend? [10:22] in bed watching tv on laptop [10:23] mothership found google earth last night and spent hours on it [10:23] looking at places she lived years ago and zooming up to the house, [10:23] it's a new toy for her [10:27] heh [10:27] * nigelb giggles at mothership [10:28] nigelb: all being and all knowing! trust me best name [10:28] czajkowski: heh, agreed about all being and all knowing - all mom's are that way [10:29] we just pretend well [10:29] ;-) [10:30] valorie: hah [10:41] valorie: aha, so that's the secret! [10:42] oh shoot, this is logged [10:42] heh [10:42] I've lost plausible deniability [10:43] sorry, mothers of the world [10:43] valorie: we wont tell [10:43] I've let down the side [10:43] lol [10:43] valorie: the LOGS will haunt you! [10:44] exactly! [10:45] you sneaky lot already knew it anyway [10:45] I know you've gotten away with unspeakable crimes...... [10:45] lol [10:48] :) [10:49] the key bit: we love you anyway [10:49] that's actually the secret [10:56] valorie: how many kids do you have? [10:57] 3 birth children [10:57] and Colin, whom I raised from 14 on [10:57] he's 21 now [10:57] valorie: wow 4 kids [10:58] valorie: any of them converted to ubuntu :) [10:58] my oldest is ...35 [10:58] he's the one who moved me to Mandrake, then Gentoo, and finally Kubuntu [10:59] see, I have earned the linux grandma thing [10:59] because I had my grandson using Qimo last time they were over [10:59] :-) [11:02] impressive [11:12] gah the mothership staye up till 5am on google earth [11:21] * valorie hopes not to do the same thing [11:22] niters all [11:23] night valorie :) [11:27] valorie: nn [11:27] time for some late breakie [11:28] * nigelb yawns [11:29] in retrospect, getting up at 3:30 am wasn't such a great idea [13:08] nigelb: why.... were you up that early? [13:09] czajkowski: well, I got up thirsty, then I went to check what happened to the match, and then started readinhg a book, and ended up not going back to bed [13:14] ugh hate those nights [13:15] the only thing that's keping me awake is foosball ever 30 minutes :D [13:31] :( [13:35] interesting blog post, some of the stuff I'd never evn thought of http://geekfeminism.org/2010/06/20/clothes-and-geek-feminism/ I just get dressed. [13:36] which I found when reading http://geekfeminism.org/2010/06/17/can-you-dress-well-and-be-taken-seriously-as-a-woman-in-technology/ [13:39] but what is a staqndard geek uniform? [13:40] *standard [13:43] czajkowski: I've always assumed it was geeky-tshirt or polo shirt & jeans or kahkis [13:44] ah gotcha [13:44] I don't equate that to geeky though, but I guess it could be [13:46] well I'm specifying geeky t-shirts there [13:46] (or geeky polo shirts) [13:47] *nods* [13:47] the 2nd post I liked to raised some interesting points on how people dress at work [13:48] Pendulum: you've seen me and see how I dress, it's not geeky, but I do love my jeans and hoddys in the winter, compared to my sister I dress like a slob. so I suspect it'll depend on where you work [13:48] Do you think that dressing up in geek society is a privilege? [13:48] is a questions raised. [13:48] I don't think it is. I think it's how ever a person feels comfortable [13:52] I think dressing up + being taken seriously can be a privileged situation, but it's also pretty complicated [13:52] and isn't always a geek thing [13:53] But, I also don't think you dress particularly dressy [13:56] I do think it's a lot about context [13:57] if you can dress corporate and still be taken seriously in a context where everyone around you is in jeans and a t-shirt, then in any circle you've got privlege [13:57] I do think there can be pressure to blend in with the guys, though, at geek events [13:58] which is why I tend to (consciously) go the other way (not to mention the fact that I don't actually know where my jeans are) [14:06] and those articles only minorly touch on the ablism of clothing expectations [14:06] *disablism [14:21] aye perhaps just places I've worked it really didnt matter if I wore a dress, jeans or suit. everyone wore what they liked tbh [14:21] but then again small company [14:22] approx 28 inhouse stafff [14:22] hse as long as it was smart it was ok [14:22] oh, I totally stood out where I worked because I dressed "too nice" [14:24] I did on ocassion when I'd gone weeks in hoodies and jeans to come in the next day in jeans heels and a going out top for post woerk drink [14:24] but then agai my place was a tad weird.