| lfitz | is there a guide to install ubuntu onto an SD card? | 05:18 |
|---|---|---|
| lfitz | for the sheevaplug | 05:18 |
| lfitz | is there a default password for root on ubuntu-arm i followed this guide: http://plugcomputer.org/plugwiki/index.php/Ubuntu_9.0.4_Plug_Computer_Distribution#Building_a_rootfs_to_install_Ubuntu_on_an_SD_Card_or_USB_Drive | 07:01 |
| lfitz | also, i can login to the user account i created, but i cant login as root | 07:02 |
| lfitz | or sudo | 07:02 |
| lfitz | sudo outputs: must be setuid root | 07:02 |
| lfitz | ugh, i chown'd everything so i could move it before putting it on the sd card and forgot...thats why that happened ^^^ | 07:13 |
| DanaG | yeah, next time sudo tar. =รพ | 07:36 |
| lfitz | DanaG actually im still stuck | 07:38 |
| lfitz | do i have to build the rootfs again? | 07:38 |
| lfitz | because i basically have no root, correct? | 07:38 |
| sechrist | are there prebuilt armv6 images? | 08:06 |
| sechrist | heh perhaps I should read further down the page next time. Found one | 08:07 |
| sechrist | woah | 08:08 |
| sechrist | http://w3.impa.br/~gabrield/data/click.php?id=4 shows php source hehe | 08:08 |
| dcordes | hi | 11:16 |
| dcordes | somebody has a secret deb to fix rootstock ? | 11:19 |
| dcordes | so far it only worked with karmic in karmic for me | 11:22 |
| dcordes | creating lucid rootfs from lucid it hangs building iso locales or so (that's in bugzilla for 3 months or so) | 11:24 |
| dcordes | not exactly specific to roostcok: getting lucid minimal rootfs and installing the desktop task results in dependency problems | 11:25 |
| dcordes | worked around it and got non working usb keyboard in gdm | 11:25 |
| dcordes | building maverick image from lucid results in segfault | 11:26 |
| dcordes | alternatively, somebody has a clue where to get finished lucid or maverick desktop tarballs ? | 11:29 |
| armin76 | sechrist: ubuntu doesn't support armv6 anymore, 9.10 is the last release supporting armv6+vfp(so no qualcomm) | 12:00 |
| sechrist | armin76: thanks, I figured this out a few hours ago | 12:00 |
| armin76 | someone from ubuntu should answer those questions instead of me :) | 12:00 |
| armin76 | dcordes: ogra is the one you should poke about it | 12:01 |
| dcordes | armin76: it's armv7 only now ? | 12:02 |
| dcordes | ogra: poke | 12:02 |
| dcordes | on a side note I considered reporting on bugzilla instead of here | 12:02 |
| dcordes | but everything is present already | 12:02 |
| dcordes | I am just wondering if somebody is working on this | 12:03 |
| armin76 | dcordes: yes | 12:03 |
| dcordes | sechrist: which device do you have ? | 12:03 |
| sechrist | dcordes: kindle | 12:04 |
| dcordes | isn't ubuntu a bit 'big' for it ? | 12:04 |
| dcordes | did you consider something openembedded based ? | 12:04 |
| sechrist | nfs dawg | 12:04 |
| sechrist | nah I haven't, I can't replace the kernel either | 12:04 |
| sechrist | I just wanted something to chroot into | 12:04 |
| lfitz | hi, my sheevaplug stops booting at uncompressing the kernel...booting the kernel. | 12:04 |
| dcordes | oh that sucks | 12:04 |
| sechrist | well I probably could replace the kernel | 12:05 |
| sechrist | but I don't have a serial cable. I don't want to risk a brick. | 12:05 |
| dcordes | lfitz: what build do you use? | 12:05 |
| dcordes | sechrist: lol then don't :) | 12:05 |
| lfitz | do you mean the kernel number? | 12:06 |
| lfitz | 2.6.34 | 12:06 |
| dcordes | lfitz: I mean your entire setup | 12:06 |
| lfitz | uboot 3.4.19 | 12:07 |
| dcordes | you built this yourself ? | 12:07 |
| lfitz | yeah | 12:07 |
| lfitz | it was working | 12:07 |
| lfitz | until i tried to go and install ubuntu :P | 12:07 |
| lfitz | i ran debian, now both sd cards stop at the same place | 12:07 |
| dcordes | on first look it seems unrealted to ubuntu | 12:07 |
| lfitz | yeah | 12:07 |
| dcordes | maybe file corruption? | 12:07 |
| lfitz | well...not on the sd cards | 12:08 |
| armin76 | haha | 12:08 |
| lfitz | cause i have two | 12:08 |
| lfitz | possibly on nand cause theres a crc error | 12:08 |
| dcordes | aha | 12:08 |
| dcordes | there you go | 12:08 |
| lfitz | but i think its unrelated | 12:08 |
| dcordes | rebuild the kernel | 12:08 |
| lfitz | cause it was booting debian from sd today | 12:08 |
| dcordes | copy it again | 12:08 |
| dcordes | check md5 | 12:08 |
| lfitz | rebuild the kernel on sd card? | 12:09 |
| lfitz | i just downloaded it from sheeva.with-linux.com/sheeva | 12:09 |
| dcordes | I don't know how you build your kernel | 12:09 |
| dcordes | you said you were building yourself. | 12:09 |
| lfitz | well, heres what i have done... | 12:09 |
| lfitz | used rootstock to build a....?filesystem?....then downloaded the kernel headers, extracted them to the filesystem, and the modules | 12:10 |
| dcordes | armin76: any clue where to get prebuilt arm tarballs ? I can only find some minimal builds. | 12:11 |
| lfitz | along with uimage | 12:11 |
| tmzt_ | does qemu-debootstrap work? | 12:11 |
| lfitz | preferably i would like to default the plug, but i dont know if its possible... | 12:11 |
| dcordes | this all irrelevant if your kernel fails uncompressing | 12:11 |
| lfitz | yeah | 12:11 |
| dcordes | you flash the kernal image to nand ? | 12:11 |
| lfitz | is there an easier way to restore the factory install | 12:11 |
| armin76 | dcordes: sorry i don't, i don't even use ubuntu myself | 12:11 |
| dcordes | ok | 12:12 |
| dcordes | hi tmzt_ | 12:12 |
| tmzt_ | sechrist: isn't kindle arm11? | 12:12 |
| tmzt_ | hey | 12:12 |
| dcordes | tmzt_: big rootstock disappointment here | 12:12 |
| dcordes | tmzt_: did you ever use it ? | 12:12 |
| tmzt_ | no, I'm just reading the changelogs on my maverick update | 12:13 |
| tmzt_ | I hadn't heard of qemu-debootstrap before | 12:13 |
| dcordes | tmzt_: it is installed on my lucid host | 12:13 |
| tmzt_ | cp $(which "qemu-$qemu_arch-static") "$target/usr/bin" | 12:16 |
| tmzt_ | run chroot "$target" /debootstrap/debootstrap --second-stage | 12:16 |
| lfitz | dcordes: would it be wise to set the username in rootstock to root | 12:16 |
| sechrist | tmzt_: you reading wikipedia? | 12:16 |
| tmzt_ | that's from the script, okay | 12:16 |
| tmzt_ | sechrist: no, why? | 12:16 |
| sechrist | tmzt_: because it's armv6 | 12:16 |
| tmzt_ | yep, armv6==arm11 | 12:16 |
| tmzt_ | neither is supported in lucid or maverick to my knowledge | 12:16 |
| sechrist | I'm running 9 | 12:16 |
| lfitz | dcordes: http://plugcomputer.org/plugwiki/index.php/Ubuntu_9.0.4_Plug_Computer_Distribution#Building_a_rootfs_to_install_Ubuntu_on_an_SD_Card_or_USB_Drive | 12:18 |
| lfitz | thats the guide i followed... | 12:19 |
| sechrist | so is cross compiling even worth trying | 12:20 |
| sechrist | or is there like architecture-sound emulators (I'm thinking qemu but I haven't ever used it) | 12:20 |
| dcordes | lfitz: You should download the kernel place the uImage in the boot directory of the filesystem | 12:21 |
| sechrist | like a full running arm nix system inside an emu on x86 | 12:21 |
| dcordes | lfitz: make sure nothing goes wrong during that step | 12:21 |
| dcordes | lfitz: check md5sum of kernel inside your SD /boot/ vs kernel image from the download source | 12:21 |
| lfitz | well sheeva.with-linux.com has kernel-headers... | 12:21 |
| lfitz | is that the kernel... | 12:21 |
| lfitz | ? | 12:21 |
| dcordes | no | 12:22 |
| dcordes | http://sheeva.with-linux.com/sheeva/2.6.34/sheeva-2.6.34-uImage | 12:22 |
| dcordes | this is the kernel | 12:22 |
| lfitz | okay | 12:22 |
| dcordes | get this along with the modules http://sheeva.with-linux.com/sheeva/2.6.34/sheeva-2.6.34-Modules.tar.gz | 12:22 |
| lfitz | what about kernel headers, no need for it? | 12:23 |
| dcordes | this is the device specific part you need | 12:23 |
| dcordes | no | 12:23 |
| dcordes | unless you want to compile some modules | 12:23 |
| dcordes | later on | 12:23 |
| lfitz | okay | 12:23 |
| lfitz | so im running rootstock again to build the rootfs, and then ill add sheeva-2.6.34-uImage to \\boot and sheeva-2.6.34-Modules (extracted) to rootfs | 12:24 |
| lfitz | err //boot | 12:24 |
| lfitz | / boot | 12:24 |
| dcordes | if you still have the .tar.gz from your previous roostcok build, you do not need to build it again | 12:25 |
| tmzt_ | sheeva only has one ethernet? | 12:25 |
| lfitz | dump it to sd card, modify the environment settings to boot from sd and hopefully boot sucessfully... | 12:25 |
| lfitz | tmzt_: yes only one | 12:25 |
| dcordes | tmzt_: uboot able to mount rootfs ? | 12:26 |
| dcordes | tmzt_: just wondering if he needs to flash uimage | 12:26 |
| tmzt_ | too bad, I might need a voip proxy for a project | 12:26 |
| tmzt_ | dcordes: what do you mean? | 12:26 |
| tmzt_ | if I understand rootfs is just a kernel parameter | 12:26 |
| dcordes | lfitz: he's told to put uImage in /boot | 12:27 |
| dcordes | and I'm wondering if the bootloader can access it | 12:27 |
| dcordes | or if he needs to flash | 12:27 |
| lfitz | yeah, it can access uImage, its offset at 0x80000000 | 12:28 |
| lfitz | 0x8000000* | 12:28 |
| lfitz | and it reads all the bytes | 12:28 |
| lfitz | i mean, the total number of bytes of the uImage | 12:29 |
| dcordes | fine | 12:29 |
| lfitz | ? | 12:30 |
| dcordes | lfitz: so you got anywhere with the clean reinstall ? | 14:06 |
| sechrist | dcordes: I'm having weird issues where I can't access the internet inside my chroot, but I can outside | 14:26 |
| sechrist | I mounted the various system endpoints and stuff too.. no idea | 14:27 |
| tmzt_ | probably dns | 14:27 |
| sechrist | no | 14:27 |
| sechrist | pinging 8.8.8.8 fails | 14:27 |
| tmzt_ | copy /etc/resolv.conf | 14:27 |
| tmzt_ | hmm | 14:27 |
| sechrist | "operation not permitted" | 14:27 |
| sechrist | not dns | 14:27 |
| tmzt_ | ah | 14:27 |
| tmzt_ | you don't have root? | 14:27 |
| sechrist | of course I have root | 14:27 |
| tmzt_ | weird | 14:27 |
| sechrist | https://gist.github.com/0df5ac2f27bf0c7cfb30 | 14:27 |
| tmzt_ | strace | 14:28 |
| sechrist | I don't have strace in the chroot but i'll try and copy the one I have over | 14:28 |
| dcordes | sechrist: I have hada similar problem in karmic where I could not user network interfaces as non privileged user. this was native rather than chroot | 14:28 |
| dcordes | s/user/use/ | 14:28 |
| sechrist | straced | 14:29 |
| sechrist | added as comment to gist above | 14:29 |
| sechrist | O.o @ that | 14:29 |
| sechrist | umoven input/output error | 14:30 |
| sechrist | hm | 14:30 |
| sechrist | so it's a ptrace problem? | 14:31 |
| sechrist | oooh it's not that | 14:36 |
| sechrist | it's getuid32 failing | 14:36 |
| sechrist | wt | 14:36 |
| sechrist | oh, no, meh | 14:38 |
| dcordes | sechrist: did you do lucid lynx tarball with rootstock ? | 14:39 |
| sechrist | nah this is armv6 | 14:39 |
| sechrist | it's 9.10.2 | 14:39 |
| sechrist | ubuntu-9.10.2-minimal-armel to be exact I guess | 14:40 |
| sechrist | I extracted the rootfs tarball and just mounted it | 14:40 |
| dcordes | aight | 14:40 |
| sechrist | I didn't need to provision it or anything right? | 14:40 |
| sechrist | it's not like I was booting off of it | 14:40 |
| dcordes | just wondering cause I have severe problems creating tarballs with roostock with anything > karmic | 14:41 |
| sechrist | v6 device running v7 code? | 14:41 |
| sechrist | oh | 14:41 |
| sechrist | creating | 14:41 |
| sechrist | nv, | 14:41 |
| sechrist | mystery solved | 14:57 |
| sechrist | permissions error | 14:57 |
| sechrist | some critical shit was owned by my macbook user | 14:57 |
| sechrist | doh | 14:57 |
| tmzt_ | did you post an strace? | 14:58 |
| tmzt_ | I think I know the issue but I'd like to confirm | 14:58 |
| sechrist | https://gist.github.com/0df5ac2f27bf0c7cfb30 | 14:58 |
| sechrist | several | 14:58 |
| sechrist | dude I am totally apt-get installing on a kindle. huuah | 15:00 |
| tmzt_ | I think it wasn't able to read either /etc/resolv.conf or other /etc/ file or a required lib because of the permissions issue | 15:00 |
| sechrist | most likely a lib | 15:00 |
| sechrist | I did a few stats and went doh when I saw the userid owning the files was 503, so I did a find/exec loop | 15:01 |
| Jameswstubbs | ogra, Is this http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/mobile/ possible on armv6? | 15:44 |
| Jameswstubbs | I'd like to use it for iPhone port | 15:53 |
| GrueMaster | Jameswstubbs: The image you are referring to at ~ogra/mobile is specific to an Intel project over two years ago. It is not arm based, it is lpia (Intel Atom/Poulsbo). | 16:14 |
| Jameswstubbs | Hm, Is there a list of the software/configs so I can check ports.ubuntu.com | 16:16 |
| Jameswstubbs | Maybe piece bits together | 16:16 |
| GrueMaster | Esentially, Jaunty is Armv5, Karmic is Armv6+vfp, and Lucid+ is Armv7+thumb2. | 16:18 |
| GrueMaster | I don'tknow what is in the original iPhone. You might want to stick with debian. | 16:18 |
| GrueMaster | At least that way you can have access to the latest software but built for older hardware. | 16:19 |
| Jameswstubbs | I've just finished booting Karmic on the iPhone 3g, I'm wanting to choose a more appropriate wm before release, | 16:19 |
| Jameswstubbs | Considering matchbox | 16:19 |
| Jameswstubbs | But this is more attractive | 16:19 |
| gsnedders | The 3G is a Cortex A8, AFAIK | 16:23 |
| Jameswstubbs | armv6 | 16:23 |
| gsnedders | Oh, it's only the 3GS that's Cortex A8 | 16:23 |
| Jameswstubbs | Yep, i think iphone 4 is a4 or whatever it's called. Im only working on 2G and 3G atm | 16:24 |
| gsnedders | A4 is just a Cortex A8 impl | 16:24 |
| Jameswstubbs | I havn't looked into, I can't afford one | 16:25 |
| lfitz | hi, i can boot ubuntu on my sheevaplug from an sd card now...however i can not login, i followed this guide... | 17:35 |
| lfitz | http://plugcomputer.org/plugwiki/index.php/Ubuntu_9.0.4_Plug_Computer_Distribution#Building_a_rootfs_to_install_Ubuntu_on_an_SD_Card_or_USB_Drive | 17:36 |
| lfitz | at this section: ' sudo ./rootstock -f sheevaplug -l [username] -p nosoup4u -d jaunty --serial ttyS0 --seed ssh' i set my username to root | 17:36 |
| lfitz | with a temp password | 17:37 |
| lfitz | and i tried to login as root with the temp passwd and even the default password in that line and it says login incorrect... | 17:37 |
| lfitz | since the fs is on sd can i edit a text file such as /etc/passwd to add a new user/pass? | 17:37 |
| lfitz | or does it need to be done, once logged in... | 17:37 |
| lfitz | hi orga: the README in rootstock fs says to contact you here... or by email, are you around? | 17:39 |
| dcordes | lfitz: can you share how you came over the can't extract kernel Image problem ? was the reason you did not have a kernel image in /boot ? | 19:53 |
| dcordes | lfitz: ogra is busy fixing rootstock I guess :P | 19:54 |
| dcordes | lfitz: are you 100% sure you usin the same password you specified with the rootstock command ? | 19:54 |
| lfitz | dcordes: 100% sure | 20:34 |
| lfitz | it worked initially, on the first attempt...but when i tried to switch to root i got an error 'setuid root' | 20:35 |
| lfitz | or whenever i tried to sudo i got that error | 20:35 |
| lfitz | dcordes: i switched from ext3 to ext2 because i only had one partition | 20:36 |
| lfitz | the command to boot is ext2load | 20:36 |
| lfitz | so i figured ext2 fs would be best | 20:36 |
| lfitz | basically /boot needs to be ext2 | 20:36 |
| dcordes | I see | 20:37 |
| dcordes | so that was the source of the unable to uncompress image erorr ? | 20:37 |
| lfitz | im not sure....but i think thats the only thing i changed... | 20:37 |
| lfitz | i would rewrite the section in the plugwiki about using rootstockfs, its missing a few words (not meaning to insult anyone) but its a little hard to follow | 20:38 |
| dcordes | go for it that's why it's a wiki | 20:39 |
| lfitz | but thats not ubuntu-arm... its at plugwiki / ubuntu 9.04 | 20:39 |
| lfitz | oh | 20:39 |
| lfitz | alright :) | 20:39 |
| dcordes | I've been asking you so that others can contribute when they read the logs of this channel | 20:40 |
| dcordes | foss we are doomed to work toegether | 20:40 |
| lfitz | okay, thats a good idea :) | 20:40 |
| dcordes | so to get back to your login problem | 20:41 |
| lfitz | i will try to write the rootfs from scratch for sheevaplug entirely :) | 20:41 |
| dcordes | I've had the exact same problem | 20:41 |
| dcordes | with lucid lynx rootstock | 20:41 |
| lfitz | no way! :P | 20:41 |
| dcordes | it is specific to rootstock | 20:41 |
| dcordes | and seems to exist across different versions | 20:42 |
| lfitz | i switched the sd card into my laptop and tried chrooting to it so i could add users | 20:42 |
| lfitz | but that didnt work either | 20:42 |
| dcordes | yxou don't need to chroot | 20:42 |
| lfitz | no exec error | 20:42 |
| dcordes | you can spare the chroot part | 20:42 |
| dcordes | just mount he rootfs | 20:42 |
| dcordes | and copy the passwd and groups etc from your known work ubuntu rootfs. | 20:42 |
| dcordes | shadow | 20:43 |
| lfitz | /etc/passwd, /etc/group, /etc/shadow? | 20:44 |
| dcordes | yeap | 20:46 |
| lfitz | okay that works, however it only works for one user the primary user and not the root account | 20:48 |
| lfitz | and it logins then quickly logs out | 20:48 |
| lfitz | could it be because i dont have a /home/dir | 20:48 |
| dcordes | lfitz: what is it ? | 20:51 |
| lfitz | um, i copied the /etc files you mentioned | 20:51 |
| lfitz | but the /home/username directory on the sd cards dont exist..yet | 20:51 |
| dcordes | I mean, you logging in on the text terminal or graphical ? | 20:52 |
| lfitz | text...screen | 20:52 |
| dcordes | ok it worked for me w/o /home/username | 20:53 |
| dcordes | just got warning | 20:53 |
| lfitz | i get the default log in message | 20:53 |
| lfitz | but then im asked for my password again | 20:53 |
| lfitz | username and password* | 20:53 |
| lfitz | dcordes: ^^ | 20:56 |
| dcordes | I hate roostock | 20:57 |
| dcordes | I mean it's not a bad concept | 20:57 |
| dcordes | but needs much love | 20:57 |
| dcordes | spent way too much time wit it this week | 20:57 |
| lfitz | any idea how to get the default ubuntu image back? | 20:58 |
| dcordes | lfitz: ask #ubuntu | 20:58 |
| lfitz | okay, thanks | 20:58 |
| lfitz | thank you for the help | 20:58 |
| lfitz | ! | 20:58 |
| dcordes | the cause of the problem is specific to rootstock | 20:58 |
| dcordes | or the arm repos... | 20:58 |
| dcordes | but way to solve it is generic so you can go ask anywhere | 20:59 |
| dcordes | no problem | 20:59 |
| dcordes | you welcome | 20:59 |
| dcordes | what do you mean get default ubuntu image back ? | 20:59 |
| lfitz | dcordes: the plug ships with ubuntu installed | 21:08 |
| lfitz | but i think i bricked it just now | 21:08 |
| lfitz | :X | 21:08 |
| dcordes | put your cheepoplug in the trashcan and get something decent like new gumstix | 21:09 |
| zumbi | armin76: remember where i used to work? right by us are developing a new product based on igepv2 :) | 21:15 |
| Jameswstubbs | How do use apt-cache with rootstock? | 21:32 |
| michaelh1 | Jameswstubbs: I've used rootstock with apt-cacher-ng quite happily... | 21:40 |
| michaelh1 | (oh, sorry, wrong tool) | 21:40 |
| Jameswstubbs | Do you just install apt-cache on host machine? | 21:40 |
| Jameswstubbs | Anything else need to be done? | 21:40 |
| Jameswstubbs | I spent 6 hours making a ubuntu-rootfs only to accidently format my image :p | 21:41 |
| michaelh1 | What would you like to achieve? | 21:42 |
| Jameswstubbs | To not need to download all the dpkg's over and over again | 21:43 |
| Jameswstubbs | I might just make a backup of the tarball this time | 21:43 |
| michaelh1 | Ah. A couple of options - use --copy-package-cache/--save-package-cache, or use a APT proxy like apt-cacher-ng | 21:44 |
| michaelh1 | I use the latter and am quite happy with it. Set http_proxy and /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/proxy to point to the cache and the rest just flows... | 21:45 |
| Jameswstubbs | Ah thank you :) I think i'll use --copy-package-cache | 21:48 |
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