| unomi | where can I get to the ubiquity install script? | 00:00 |
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| hggdh | absolutely -1 to any user-data-cleaning programme... the data is the user's property, we cannot delete it | 00:17 |
| ddecator | hggdh: +1 | 00:17 |
| ddecator | to your statement, now the idea | 00:18 |
| ddecator | not* | 00:18 |
| hggdh | :-) | 00:18 |
| hggdh | ddecator: is it (-1 +1), or -(1 +1)? | 00:18 |
| ddecator | hggdh: uh...(-1 +1) | 00:19 |
| ddecator | i think :p | 00:19 |
| hggdh | ddecator: :-) | 00:19 |
| hggdh | but if one writes a programme that will take care on what it does to remove user data, I have no issue. My issue is with 'apt-get purge xyz' deleting user data | 00:20 |
| penguin42 | hggdh: Where was the user data? | 01:17 |
| penguin42 | hmm bed | 01:28 |
| vish | hmm, a weird doubt , doesnt the ubuntu server use the same packages as the ubuntu-desktop? | 09:28 |
| micahg | vish: same repo | 09:28 |
| vish | micahg: can the two set different preferences? within a package? | 09:29 |
| micahg | vish: what do you mean? | 09:29 |
| Kangarooo | maybe ubuntu dekstop installing also installs another package witch contains specific configuration. server maybe has all default settings.. | 09:30 |
| vish | micahg: like for ex: if we take package X has a preference : desktop team wants a preference while the server team does not what to use that , is there a way for setting different preferences? | 09:30 |
| vish | yeah , like default settings.. | 09:31 |
| micahg | vish: idk, possibly, is there a particular bug? | 09:31 |
| vish | micahg: sudo server team says desktop can show password , while it does not want to do that | 09:31 |
| vish | sudo :* | 09:32 |
| vish | show password in the sense , show the ****** | 09:32 |
| micahg | vish: k, what you descrive as the server preference is standard behaviour | 09:32 |
| vish | yeah , while the desktop can set the preference to show the password? | 09:33 |
| micahg | vish: no, gksu or kdesu can do that | 09:34 |
| vish | micahg: actually sudo can also do that , we just havent turned it on. :s | 09:34 |
| * micahg doesn't see why we'd change the standard behaviour | 09:35 | |
| vish | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers#Enabling%20Visual%20Feedback%20when%20Typing%20Passwords | 09:36 |
| micahg | vish: k, but globally, I don't see the point, it's a cli app | 09:36 |
| vish | micahg: in a desktop it is the only app which does not show the pwd stars while every other location the stars are there | 09:37 |
| micahg | vish: yes, but it's not a desktop app, but a cli app | 09:37 |
| vish | why does that have to matter , it is in a desktop behaving differently , cli or not seems irrelevant | 09:38 |
| micahg | vish: but it's not, just because all the gui dialog boxes behave a certain way doesn't mean all the cli apps need to do the same thing | 09:39 |
| vish | micahg: why not? why do they have to act differently? | 09:39 |
| * vish doesnt understand | 09:40 | |
| micahg | vish: it's not the same interface | 09:40 |
| * micahg is guessing, not quoting doctrine | 09:40 | |
| vish | if not same interface , why the problem | 09:40 |
| micahg | vish: you said there was a problem, not me :P | 09:41 |
| vish | i meant why the problem of *not* showing ;) | 09:41 |
| vish | micahg: the tradition to not show pwd stars was inherited from servers for security reasons | 09:41 |
| micahg | vish: because you're changing something fundamental about the cli | 09:41 |
| vish | huh? so why is terminal included ? | 09:42 |
| vish | if it is not going to be part of the desktop. | 09:42 |
| micahg | vish: for people who like a cli :) | 09:42 |
| vish | micahg: yeah , those people can turn off the option ;) | 09:43 |
| * micahg doesn't think things should be fundamentally different | 09:43 | |
| micahg | vish: if anything, I'd say there should be another package in the sudo source that can enable the parameter | 09:43 |
| micahg | and *not* install it by default | 09:44 |
| vish | nah , pwd stars by default ;) | 09:44 |
| vish | micahg: "fundamentals" is just another way of saying "I'm used to this so why change" ;) | 09:44 |
| micahg | vish: no, it's a matter of making an app consistent across platforms and distros | 09:45 |
| vish | micahg: hmm? we are concerned about consistency with other distros? but not *within* the distro ;) | 09:45 |
| micahg | vish: that *is* being consistent w/in the distro to keep it off | 09:46 |
| vish | micahg: how? is it consistent within a desktop? | 09:46 |
| micahg | vish: who's floating around the idea anyways | 09:46 |
| vish | ;p | 09:48 |
| Kangarooo | micahg: i need knowlegde about triaging bugs.. im in bugsquad joined can i get mentorship one day? | 10:56 |
| micahg | Kangarooo: I'm about to go to sleep, in about 8 hours I can answer some questions | 11:06 |
| Kangarooo | ok micahg | 11:06 |
| micahg | Kangarooo: there might be other people around to help | 11:06 |
| Kangarooo | meanwhile ill request mentorship as its written in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors | 11:07 |
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| penguin42 | Does anyone know what /var/run/gdm/auth-for-* is ? | 12:12 |
| penguin42 | ah, Xauthority files moved to there? | 12:12 |
| penguin42 | bug 511493 feels like it should be split into two ? | 12:47 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 511493 in apparmor (Ubuntu) "Add Acrobat reader and flash restrictions (affects: 1) (heat: 23)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/511493 | 12:47 |
| hggdh | penguin42: ideally they should have been split, yes. But Kees already accepted the bug as is, so no big deal | 18:04 |
| penguin42 | fair enough | 18:05 |
| DrKenobi | Hi! I found something but I'm not sure if it's a bug or not. When you do something (install, remove) with Gnome-terminal you will see this question: "Do you want to continue [Y/n]?". If you press enter you confirm the action, it's like typing "Y". Is this OK? | 18:32 |
| Kangarooo | DrKenobi: yes couse maybe you make up or mind when ull see how much programms will be installed | 18:33 |
| penguin42 | DrKenobi: I suspect it depends the app that is doing it | 18:33 |
| micahg | DrKenobi: if you do it with aptitude you always see it, if with apt-get only if there's more than one app to install | 18:33 |
| penguin42 | DrKenobi: Generally if the Y has been highlighted (by capitalising) that means the guy who wrote it wanted it as the default | 18:33 |
| DrKenobi | penguin42: I also thought that, but I was not sure | 18:34 |
| Kangarooo | penguin42: capital letter option means enter will execute that i think | 18:34 |
| penguin42 | DrKenobi: It's a convention rather than a rule, so most things that give you a choice will make one of them the default; typically either the one that is less dangerous or maybe the same as the old setting | 18:35 |
| DrKenobi | OK, thank you penguin42 | 18:37 |
| DrKenobi | Kangarooo micahg | 18:37 |
| Kangarooo | DrKenobi: yes? about mentorship? | 18:39 |
| DrKenobi | Kangarooo: yes | 18:40 |
| Kangarooo | im ready whenever mentor is ready. michael will be my mentor? in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors i see hess available from 0:00 utc now is 18:00 | 18:45 |
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