unomi | Where can I find the script that ubiquity uses for install? | 00:04 |
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jpds | unomi: apt-get source ubiquity and look at scripts/install.py? | 00:16 |
unomi | thanks, jpds there wouldn't be a way to modify it from a usb-stick install medium? | 00:18 |
jpds | unomi: ubiquity: /usr/share/ubiquity/install.py | 00:19 |
unomi | cheers | 00:19 |
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unomi | unfortunately I am not seeing any references to parted in there | 00:27 |
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YokoZar | jdong: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ia32-libs/+bug/601499 | 02:13 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 601499 in ia32-libs (Ubuntu) "[lucid] ia32-libs stable release update" [Undecided,New] | 02:13 |
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philsf | what's the proper channel to ask about packages from the canonical DX team PPA? | 04:08 |
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hunger | Any idea why schroot no longer works in maverick with encrypted homedirs? Used to work fine in lucid:-( | 11:26 |
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hunger | Replacing bind with rbind in the line mounting /home in /etc/schroot/default/fstab fixes schroot for me:-) | 13:55 |
arand | debian-installer takes 1h+, whereas ubiquity takes ~20min, to install an equivalent standard desktop install. Is this how things are and should be? Or should this be brought up as a bug report? | 14:13 |
njin | Alternate version is extudied to work on pc with low ram | 14:26 |
arand | njin: re. ubiquity / d-i ... So the adaptation for low memory usage comes at the toll of d-i not using system resources even if they exist? I was under the impression that d-i was meant for far more than just lowmem installs..? | 16:43 |
njin | arand: i'm not an expert, the only things that i can see is D.I. is used in alternate versions, Ubiquity in others, and effectively on the same machine is slower than ubiquity | 16:52 |
arand | njin: Yep, I just did an equivalent desktop install on the same machine using both the liveCD and the alternate installer, at the diff in time was at least 40min. Which does seem a bit odd. | 16:56 |
arand | s/at/and/ | 16:56 |
njin | no, i'm an iso-tester and the difference isn't about 40 min, it can be about 10-15 | 16:59 |
jdong | hmm | 17:33 |
jdong | do other SRU team members have an opinion on the massive Banshee diff sitting in lucid unapproved? | 17:33 |
Laney | bugfix uploads have generally been accepted so far | 17:52 |
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Carb0n | does anyone know which part of ubuntu 10.04 is responsible for drawing/loading the desktop wallpaper by default? like is it nautilus? | 18:40 |
micahg | Carb0n: execute this and then click on the desktop: xprop | grep CLASS | 18:42 |
Carb0n | cool thanks | 18:43 |
jussi | Is anyone here familiar with #ubuntu-toolchain and whether it is still used or needed? | 19:23 |
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abhi_nav | i want to know why evolution is preferd over thunderbird? I am just a regular user. want to know | 20:27 |
micahg | abhi_nav: it's personal preference | 20:35 |
abhi_nav | micahg, no. I want to know reason why evolution is default. is it best? if yes then tell me so | 20:36 |
micahg | abhi_nav: probably because it integrates better into the desktop | 20:36 |
abhi_nav | micahg, ok. thanks :) | 20:36 |
micahg | abhi_nav: but you're free to use whatever client you like | 20:36 |
abhi_nav | micahg, yah I know. I just wanted to know whic is the best? its ok | 20:37 |
micahg | abhi_nav: it depends on the person | 20:38 |
abhi_nav | micahg, you mean persons likes or you mean persons requirements? | 20:38 |
micahg | abhi_nav: both :) | 20:38 |
abhi_nav | micahg, hmm | 20:38 |
abhi_nav | micahg, I am a comp engg student. I do little contributin using laucnpad etc. and no prefessional work still now. so which one you wll recommend for me? | 20:51 |
micahg | abhi_nav: I can't be impartial as I'm one of the Mozilla maintainers :), try both if you don't have a preference and keep using the one you like more | 20:52 |
abhi_nav | micahg, :( ok. btw thanks. | 20:52 |
abhi_nav | :) | 20:52 |
cjwatson | arand: that's how things are and should be. unpacking .debs is more flexible, but is intrinsically slower than copying a filesystem | 22:12 |
cjwatson | arand: (although there is an existing open bug that we should be telling dpkg to use unsafe I/O during installation, which would make d-i faster) | 22:14 |
lifeless | cjwatson: has anyone looked into the dpkg safe IO implementation - reading the db doesn't seem like it should be writing, and reading shows up as slow | 22:14 |
arand | cjwatson: Okay, right, I wasn't aware of a major diff in the way they installed the system, but then it makes quite a lot of sense I guess, thanks for the info! | 22:15 |
cjwatson | lifeless: that's orthogonal | 22:16 |
cjwatson | arand: completely different installation method | 22:16 |
lifeless | cjwatson: ok, different cause for that slowdown? | 22:16 |
cjwatson | lifeless: the unsafe I/O thing is specifically and only due to the recent sync changes - I don't want to scope-creep into speeding up db reading | 22:17 |
cjwatson | lifeless: (which, if it were to be optimised, could be done generically and wouldn't need to be specific to installation) | 22:17 |
lifeless | cjwatson: for clarity, it seemed to me that db reading took a nosedive at the same time safe-IO arrived. | 22:17 |
lifeless | cjwatson: I had thought they were thus related | 22:17 |
cjwatson | it can't be related | 22:17 |
cjwatson | it actually should have speeded up around that time, though! | 22:18 |
cjwatson | - Use FIEMAP when available (on Linux based systems) to sort the .list | 22:18 |
cjwatson | files loading order. With a cold cache it improves up to a 70%. | 22:18 |
cjwatson | Thanks to Morten Hustveit <morten@debian.org>. LP: #442114 | 22:18 |
lifeless | interesting | 22:18 |
cjwatson | (dpkg 1.15.5.6ubuntu2) | 22:18 |
cjwatson | and it did improve things for me, IIRC, I seem to remember testing that | 22:19 |
cjwatson | so maybe somewhat system-specific, though I don't know how - if it's reproducible in a Debian chroot, maybe take it upstream? | 22:19 |
lifeless | cjwatson: when I get some spare cycles I'll have a fiddle. No promises - more than slightly frenetic at the moment. | 22:20 |
Booca_Juniiiors | holaaas | 22:30 |
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cherva | What part of ubuntu is responsible for the laptops Fn+F1-12 shortcuts ? | 23:44 |
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