[00:00] <CrimsonIdol> belkinsa, what's the problem
[00:00] <CrimsonIdol> didn't read forum
[00:00] <Pirate_Hunter> Compiling, im more at home using the numbers for permissions hasn't let me down yet
[00:01] <Compiling> Pirate_Hunter: Whatever works best for you, they all do the same thing
[00:02] <CrimsonIdol> belkinsa, so the card works in windows but not in 10.04?
[00:03] <CrimsonIdol> you can do something like: dmesg | grep eth to see if there are any problems.
[00:04] <belkinsa> CrimsonIdol: Thanks
[00:04] <rautamiekka> Augustuen: Easiest way to find out is to ask him the question "What do you run on the Server ?". If it's databases running SQL or websites running anything else than Micro$oft technologies, he's better off with Linux. Well, then there's the issue commanding the system: everything is designed to be capable of running via commands, altho it's possible with graphical programs if he sets up VNC to the system to command like Window$.
[00:04] <CrimsonIdol> go back
[00:05] <addiakogiannis> Hello from Greece
[00:05] <Augustuen> he uses them for gameservers, but he is moving over to CentOS now
[00:05] <rautamiekka> Augustuen: And Game Servers are better off on Linux. Source Engine-based ones run more poorly on native Linux binary, but that can be avoided by running the Window$ binary under Wine.
[00:05] <Pirate_Hunter> addiakogiannis, hello from UK
[00:06] <Augustuen> I haven't had any problems with Ubuntu SRCDS, exept from not being able to download, but that was probably the server
[00:06] <Augustuen> meaning where I downloaded it from
[00:06] <Pirate_Hunter> addiakogiannis, SRCDS?
[00:06] <rautamiekka> Pirate_Hunter: Source Dedicated Server
[00:07] <addiakogiannis> SRCDS????
[00:07] <Pirate_Hunter> rautamiekka, thanks
[00:07] <Pirate_Hunter> addiakogiannis, so what is the problem
[00:07] <rautamiekka> Pirate_Hunter: He wanted to convince someone to switch from Window$ to Linux on Game Servers.
[00:08] <addiakogiannis> actually I have one, but right noe just logged in to say hi!
[00:08] <addiakogiannis> :)
[00:08] <Augustuen> I've been playing around with it, and there has been no problem waht so ever
[00:08] <Pirate_Hunter> rautamiekka, wrong person i was asking about addiakogiannis
[00:08] <rautamiekka> Pirate_Hunter: Oops.
[00:08] <Pirate_Hunter> addiakogiannis, ok don't feel shy ask when ever you want
[00:09] <Augustuen> is CentOS built on Ubuntu?
[00:09] <addiakogiannis> anyways, goodnight everyone, and thanks for asking pirate!
[00:09] <Pirate_Hunter> bye
[00:09] <rautamiekka> Augustuen: Nope, it's based on RedHat Linux
[00:10] <CrimsonIdol> no
[00:10]  * Pirate_Hunter going to try and sleep again
[00:11] <crystaltv> greetings..
[00:11] <crystaltv> well things have improved..
[00:12] <crystaltv> I have been able to get ubuntu up and running in console mode
[00:12] <crystaltv> now having issues with X
[00:12] <Augustuen> not hard
[00:12] <crystaltv> tried running Xorg -configure and it failed
[00:12] <Compiling> X -configure
[00:12] <crystaltv> ok
[00:12] <crystaltv> lets try that thanks Compiling brb
[00:12] <ikonia> you shouldn't need to configure X, it should be dynamic
[00:12] <Compiling> what do you mean it failed?
[00:12] <Compiling> command not found?
[00:13] <CrimsonIdol> sometimes X doesn't
[00:13] <pondera> does the wubi install support other distros of linux ?
[00:13] <Compiling> no
[00:13] <pondera> compiling are there other installers that work the some  for other distros ?
[00:14] <pondera> the same*
[00:14] <Compiling> not to my knowledge
[00:14] <Compiling> there was a project on sf but it died
[00:14] <pondera> poop on a stick
[00:14] <Compiling> why
[00:14] <CrimsonIdol> uh...
[00:14] <Compiling> afraid of wrecking the system?
[00:14] <pepper_haze> !language | pondera
[00:14] <Augustuen> wubi means Windows Ubuntu Installer
[00:15] <crystaltv> Compiling: I ran X -configure, it put out a lot of stuff, like the driver list then at the bottom said:
[00:15] <pondera> yes because right now i have a macbook gen 3.1, with osx, ubuntu, and win7 and it seems that every time i try to install backtrack it messes up the grub
[00:15] <crystaltv> Number of screens does not match the number of devices
[00:15] <crystaltv> configuration failed
[00:15] <crystaltv> ddxSigGiveUp: close log
[00:15] <CrimsonIdol> what's your system setup like
[00:15] <sebsebseb> Augustuen: as far as I know yes.  Wubi is ok for trying (when it works)  long run proper partitioned install is better :)
[00:15] <Augustuen> yeah
[00:15] <Augustuen> I've never had an success with Wubi
[00:16] <CrimsonIdol> vm is better
[00:16] <Augustuen> but I kinda failed, I installed it on a different HDD, and I forgot to boot it XD
[00:16] <malvarma> When wubi works, it works slower than a usual installation.
[00:16] <pondera> compiling: yes because right now i have a macbook gen 3.1, with osx, ubuntu, and win7 and it seems that every time i try to install backtrack it messes up the grub
[00:16] <Augustuen> I'm running ubuntu on VMware, it's better than having to boot into it
[00:16] <Compiling> thats because you're reading NTFS
[00:16] <Compiling> a virtualized FS inside a file on an NTFS drive
[00:16] <sebsebseb> Augustuen: uhmm sure, but really  Windows should be in a vm not the other way round :)
[00:16] <Compiling> it will always be slow
[00:16] <ivangarcia> hi, i'm struggling with a .asx streaming i cannot watch in ubuntu, any help?
[00:16] <ivangarcia> http://melpomene.mmedia.upv.es/RETRANS_PR_01.asx
[00:17] <sebsebseb> Augustuen: well I assume your doing it inside WIndows
[00:17] <Compiling> The project was http://sourceforge.net/projects/wubix/
[00:17] <Augustuen> I play alot of video games, and stuff like that, so I can't really convert intill they make those games for Linux
[00:17] <Augustuen> yeah
[00:17] <Compiling> but it seems to be dead
[00:17] <sebsebseb> Augustuen: you can get a lot of Windows games working well in Wine
[00:17] <ikonia> ivangarcia: what is that ?
[00:17] <pondera> compiling could you help with why that would happen
[00:18] <ivangarcia> ikonia, it's a university video streaming
[00:18] <Augustuen> not really, I've had alot of problems with fonts and speed and stuff
[00:18] <Compiling> pondera: there should be an option not to install a bootloader
[00:18] <sebsebseb> Augustuen: also  vm software is slowly getting there for proper 3D Windows games support
[00:18] <pondera> humm i see
[00:18] <ikonia> ivangarcia: yes, why are you pasting it in a support channel
[00:18] <Compiling> pondera: try that then manually add an entry in menu.lst or grub.cfg (whatever you're using)
[00:18] <Augustuen> I use apps for these games taht require alot of prower itself
[00:18] <sebsebseb> Augustuen: you can also install Windows fonts into Linux distros
[00:18] <Compiling> crystaltv: what is your physical setup?
[00:18] <sebsebseb> Augustuen: and into Wine
[00:19] <pondera> compiling where would those files be located ?
[00:19] <Compiling> crystaltv: check how many screen sections there are in xorg.conf and compare to your physical setup, modify accordingly
[00:19] <malvarma>  ivangarcia Hmm I can't stream the video either. I open it in vlc and it connects then stops.
[00:19] <seidos> how can I reinitialize my wireless NIC?  When I suspend/hibernate it stops working sometimes.
[00:19] <Augustuen> yeah, but like my game loaders require alot from the PC when it's on windows, so running it through Wine just makes it unusable
[00:19] <Compiling> pondera: which installation did you install grub with?
[00:19] <crystaltv> Compiling: ok brb
[00:19] <Compiling> pondera: that one will have the file
[00:19] <ivangarcia> malvarma, ikonia, any way to find out which packages codecs i need?
[00:19] <Compiling> seidos: does it show up in ifconfig?
[00:19] <sebsebseb> Augustuen: ok right, well going a little off topic now, but  what do you use the Ubuntu vm for?  Of interest
[00:20] <Compiling> seidos: if so, with or without an address?
[00:20] <Augustuen> playing with Ubuntu
[00:20] <ikonia> ivangarcia: contact the people who stream it to find out what format
[00:20] <MysteryX> Is there a graphical tool for git?
[00:20] <Augustuen> I use it for Server fun
[00:20] <Augustuen> setting up local webservers and game servers
[00:20] <burn> how do i make wireless networking start without gdm?
[00:20] <Augustuen> it's pretty fun
[00:20] <Compiling> MysteryX:  git-gui ?
[00:21] <seidos> Compiling, it will show up in ifconfig, but it won't connect to the network.  If I take the wireless down using ifconfig wlan0 down, when I try to bring it back up I get an error
[00:21] <sebsebseb> Augustuen: Apache and such?  Game server what do you use for that?  Game servers for what games?
[00:21] <MysteryX> thanks Compiling
[00:21] <pondera> compiling, heres what i did. i installed osx leopard, install refit, then windows, and then ubuntu
[00:21] <Compiling> np
[00:21] <Augustuen> Apache, yes, and SRCDS
[00:21] <Compiling> seidos: can you pastebin the error, thanks
[00:21] <sebsebseb> Augustuen: ok I don't know what SRCDS is
[00:21] <sebsebseb> some game server I guess
[00:21] <Augustuen> I also use it to test out stuff for my website and my friends server
[00:21] <pondera> compiling, i think grub happend when i put ubuntu on it
[00:21] <crystaltv> Compiling: I changed the driver from nouveau to nv and ran X and now it shows B/W blocks and is locked up tight
[00:21] <Augustuen> it's for games like Half Life 2 and Counter-Strike Source
[00:22] <rautamiekka> sebsebseb: Source Dedicated Server
[00:22] <sebsebseb> rautamiekka: Whats that?
[00:22] <thune3> seidos: as a workaround in the past, i have unloaded and reloaded wireless driver to get something of a reset
[00:22] <Compiling> pondera: you referenced GRUB earlier. when you get to your GRUB screen, which options do you have? I'm assuming you're only getting grub once you select ubuntu
[00:22] <Compiling> not familiar with the Mac boot process, never want to learn it really either
[00:22] <rautamiekka> sebsebseb: You asked what SRCDS is
[00:22] <Dargon> anyone know how to setup sendmail?
[00:22] <sebsebseb> rautamiekka: yes I mean whats a Source Dedicated Server, well I could look up
[00:22] <Augustuen> yeah, I always google it
[00:22] <pondera> compiling, i get grub when i want to go to windows or ubuntu
[00:23] <Compiling> pondera: did you install ubuntu from within windows?
[00:23] <pondera> compiling no partition
[00:23] <ikonia> Dargon: that's a pretty big topic, what in specific ?
[00:23] <ikonia> Dargon: you know postfix/exim are the default mta's in ubuntu ?
[00:23] <Compiling> pondera: then you shouldn't get grub when you select windows O_o
[00:23] <Dargon> ikonia, i know not much about linux
[00:24] <ikonia> Dargon: ok, well ubuntu installex exim or postfix as a default mta, they are much easier to configure
[00:24] <Dargon> postifx wasnt installed on the box so i installed sendmail, should i nix it and get postfix?
[00:24] <Compiling> Does anyone know a decent server monitoring site with free SMS alerts? no purchasing credits or that stuff.
[00:24] <pondera> compiling i does, i think refit syncs the mbr from the mackbook bootloader and grub
[00:25] <Compiling> not familiar with refit personally
[00:25] <ikonia> Dargon: it's your call, whatever mta your most comfortable with
[00:25] <pondera> compiling osx is on there 2  but it doest boot
[00:25] <pepper_haze> Does anyone here know anything about the software qemu or aQemu
[00:25] <seidos> Compiling, are errors from ifconfig logged somewhere?
[00:25] <Compiling> what does BT do to GRUB?
[00:25] <Dargon> ikonia, ive never worked with mail servers n shit in linux
[00:25] <ikonia> Dargon: tone your language down please
[00:25] <Compiling> seidos: you said it shows errors when you bring it up, those are the ones im after. They're probably also in /var/log/messages
[00:25] <ikonia> !postfix | Dargon
[00:26] <pondera> compiling after i install it when i load linux or windows grub turns into a commandline terminal
[00:26] <ikonia> Dargon: check out that for starters
[00:26] <crystaltv> I have the xorg.conf but when I try to boot to normal mode the screen goes all b/w blocks and is locked up..
[00:26] <Compiling> pondera: try reconfiguring GRUB
[00:27] <crystaltv>  I have nvidia gt220 pcie card.. is that a problem?
[00:27] <pondera> compiling lol and that where all my computer guruness ability stops
[00:27] <Dargon> ikonia, could i possibly PM you
[00:27] <Compiling> at the GRUB prompt do
[00:27] <Compiling> find /boot/grub/stage1
[00:28] <ikonia> Dargon: if you must
[00:28] <Compiling> then it will give you a hd partition
[00:28] <Compiling> use that partition
[00:28] <pondera> i tried that and i get something like file not found
[00:28] <Compiling> root (hd0) for example
[00:28] <Compiling> then
[00:28] <Compiling> setup hd(0)
[00:29] <pondera> one sec getting pen and paper lol
[00:29] <Compiling> pondera: I have to go but check this out
[00:29] <Compiling> pondera: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
[00:29] <Compiling> pondera: same idea
[00:29] <Compiling> HTH
[00:29] <FloodBot1> Compiling: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:29] <pondera> ok thanks
[00:31] <sad> Hi
[00:31] <eoke_> Anybody got any idea why /etc/bash.bashrc might not be executed on shell login?  The permissions look a little odd to at 644 oh and the OS is actually debian 5.04.
[00:31] <coventry> Is this forum logged anywhere?  I would like to go back and look up a question I asked a little while ago.
[00:31] <sebsebseb> !logs | coventry
[00:31] <sebsebseb> coventry: updated every hour or so
[00:31] <coventry> Thanks.
[00:32] <sebsebseb> coventry: (except if the logging isn't working of course)  np
[00:33] <sebsebseb> coventry: also loads of IRC clients log by default
[00:33] <sad> Where are the instructions for getting flash 64 working ?
[00:35] <eoke_> sad: "sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree" should do it.
[00:35] <An_Ony_Moose> is it possible to cross-compile on a 64-bit installation to 32-bit target systems? If yes, how?
[00:36] <eoke_> An_Ony_Moose: gcc -m32 or gcc -m64 iirc
[00:37] <An_Ony_Moose> ah thanks
[00:37] <Pondera> ^^
[00:38] <v64> 1337
[00:38] <v64> 31337
[00:38] <coventry> Seems like I don't have a log of it.  I want to stop the screen from blanking.  (This is ubuntu karmic.)  In screensaver preferences, I have "Regard the computer as idle for" set to 2 hours, and I have "Activate screensaver when computer is idle" unchecked.  However, the screen is still blanking.  Someone here proposed a solution to this a while back, but I had to reinstall today, and have lost that configuration, and don't seem to have
[00:38] <coventry> a record of it.
[00:39] <Mqueue> can anyone help me with setting up DVD decrypter with wine so I can burn PS2 game
[00:39] <sad> I would like for Hulu and embedded flash to work at the same time.
[00:39] <jmburgess1> When I run chormium-browser http://url.com or whatver from the terminal, is there any way to run it and not have the focus change to the browser?
[00:40] <coventry> Oh!  I just remembered: apt-get remove gnome-screensaver.  (Wasn't suggested here, I thought of it later.)
[00:41] <crystaltv> I think I have it.. I checked /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old and it cant find the driver.. I check /usr/lib/dri and it aint there weeee
[00:41] <crystaltv> now just need to find out what to do from here lol
[00:41] <CrimsonIdol> Mqueue, why do you need wine to burn a ps2 game?
[00:42] <belkinsa> Crimson: I got nothing when I did dmesg|grep eth.
[00:43] <CrimsonIdol> yu need to find out the chipset of your wireless
[00:44] <belkinsa> Is it a simple Google?
[00:44] <chalcedony> my ubuntu live cd boot is just sitting there, it's been like that for 40 min or so, is it normal, should i just try again?
[00:44] <ikonia> chalcedony: I'd reboot and test again
[00:44] <chalcedony> ok ikonia ty
[00:44] <Augustuen> chalcedony: have u checked the MD5?
[00:44] <CrimsonIdol> could be
[00:44] <ikonia> chalcedony: also use the cd integrity test to validate it
[00:44] <belkinsa> Okay, thanks again.
[00:45] <CrimsonIdol> take a look at the drivers in /etc/firmware and grep for them.
[00:45] <chalcedony> Augustuen, when i made the cd it just downloaded to the cd.. i wasn't sure how to do it when it did that (on vista)
[00:45] <Augustuen> try using a Md5 checker with the CD rom
[00:45] <CrimsonIdol> dmesg | grep *.so might give a bigger list than expected but you could try.
[00:46] <Augustuen> u making on Linux or Window$?
[00:46] <chalcedony> Augustuen, vista laptop has the good working burner atm - so i used that
[00:46] <Augustuen> google md5check, it's pretty good
[00:47] <chavelo> hols
[00:47] <coz_> chalcedny,  you can check the viability of the burned cd by putting it in the burner...restarting and when it comes up  click the "Check cd for errors" option
[00:47] <chavelo> hols
[00:47] <chavelo> q pex no le entiendo a esto
[00:47] <chavelo> jajaj
[00:47] <ikonia> !es | chalcedony
[00:47] <ikonia> !es | chavelo
[00:47] <ikonia> oops
[00:48] <CrimsonIdol> ooops... not /etc/firmware
[00:49] <CrimsonIdol> it is firmware... just not in /etc
[00:50] <lilucax> oii
[00:50] <lilucax> sou novo nisso alguem pode me dar algumas dicas
[00:50] <CrimsonIdol> what folder is firmware in? duh!
[00:50] <lilucax> tem algum brasileiro aii
[00:50] <lilucax> ???
[00:51] <slidinghorn> !br | lilucax
[00:53] <CrimsonIdol> belkinsa: there is a firmware folder that is looked into for the wireless driver. i'm just not on my laptop right now.
[00:54] <CrimsonIdol> gotta run... going to watch UFC pay-per-view tonight.
[00:57] <tucemiux> has anyone here ever used record my desktop?  I want to know how to start/stop recording.  Right now I have the app minimized and there is a red button on my panel, if I click the red button the app will start recording?
[00:58] <choomra> Hello, can anyone tell me if its possible to remove grub and replace it with the prevous (MBR) bootloader? I installed Ubuntu to an external hard drive, but GRUB installed itself to my primary hard drive and now I can't boot into the XP partition that lives on my internal HD
[00:58] <tucemiux> choomra, yes you can
[00:58] <coz_> !hash
[00:58] <coz_> !hashes
[00:58] <tucemiux> choomra, boot up to a windows CD, go into a command promot and run fixmbr
[00:59] <choomra> tucemiux: See, that's what I thought.
[00:59] <crystaltv> I downloaded the nvidia driver for my card, I think, and it failed to load the kernel module..
[01:00] <tucemiux> choomra, your will then be able to boot up to windows, remember that you still have ubuntu installed whever you installed it, you can get rid of the partition as you like, it wont affect windows, you can also reinstall ubuntu
[01:00] <choomra> tucemiux: So I popped the CD in, booted from it, it loaded into RAM, but it refused to accept keyboard input... The keyboard works at BIOS, and is given power (tested by toggling Caps lock light), but I can not select anything.
[01:00] <eoke_> tucemiux: Your mileage may vary but recordmydesktop normally locks up after I hit CTRL+C to stop it running.
[01:00] <crystaltv> does the windows dual boot install the kernel sources? I see the headers
[01:00] <Mqueue> how do i telnet to windows box from ubuntu ?
[01:01] <anode> hey, is there a way I can see what packages are on a 'specific' repository using apt-get or aptitude?
[01:01] <eoke_> Mqueue: telnet hostname port
[01:01] <crystaltv> Mqueue: telnet pcname
[01:01] <guest2> is there a solution to the white background presented in system tray icons?
[01:01] <choomra> guest2: Replace them with monochrome icons.
[01:01] <fuyao> my external hard drive is not being recognized
[01:02] <Mqueue> thx
[01:02] <guest2> i didn't have issues with them under the previous ubuntu, or on linux mint's dark theme
[01:02] <guest2> so, it's a rendering fault in latest gnome probably..
[01:02] <choomra> \j #grub
[01:02] <choomra> \j #grub
[01:02] <guest2> try /j #grub
[01:03] <tucemiux> choomra, go to #windows, maybe someone can help you there or google it, I dont know what version of windows you have so the procedure might be different, basically you have to go to a dos prompt and then run "fixmbr", ive done it plenty of times so i know it works
[01:03] <tucemiux> choomra, ##windows
[01:03] <belkinsa> dmesg|grep doesn't work for me, do I have to use it with something else after it?
[01:03] <thisisunsane> choorma, you want the windows recovery console
[01:03] <choomra> It's XP, and there are plenty of folks in my situation whom follow your instructions and have success.
[01:03] <tucemiux> eoke_, so if I hit the red button it will start recording? does it mean that it's recording right now?
[01:03] <steven__> can someone help me plz
[01:04] <eoke_> tucemiux: I've not started it from the gui I tend to just start it by running "recordmydesktop" at a console
[01:04] <steven__> what can i download to make beats with
[01:04] <choomra> I think it's a problem with the disk; I torrented it as I didn't have a windows CD.. But it was a highly regarded torrent and i even installed it in a VM beforehand, all working well..
[01:04] <eoke_> eoke_: That way you can see more about what it's doing issues, file size etc.
[01:05] <IdleOne> !piracy > choomra
[01:05] <belkinsa> Steven_: Check Ubuntu Forums for that.
[01:05] <IdleOne> steven__: you can also try asking in #ubuntustudio
[01:05] <belkinsa> Is CrimsonIdol there?
[01:05] <thisisunsane> choomra, you can download a setup disc directly from microsoft
[01:05] <thisisunsane> choomra, http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310994
[01:05] <choomra> Oh come now IdleOne, it's not piracy, I'm using it as a restore disk not an install disk.
[01:05] <choomra> Thanks, thisissunsane, I'll check that out.
[01:05] <eoke_> belkinsa: You or someone else was talking about firmware locations earlier I think it's /lib/firmware
[01:06] <IdleOne> choomra: it is and it is offtopic for this channel and network
[01:06] <choomra> Wasn't aware of it.
[01:06] <choomra> IdleOne: How was it off topic? It was an important detail in explaining my difficulties, but fine, rules are rules.
[01:07] <slidinghorn> choomra: it's off topic because this is a channel for ubuntu support only...not windows
[01:08] <IdleOne> choomra: the fact that you are discussing windows to help you !fixmbr is not completely offtopic for this channel. torrenting windows is illegal and makes it offtopic. more help and support in ##windows
[01:08] <steven__> #ubuntustudio
[01:09] <IdleOne> steven__: /join #ubuntustudio
[01:09] <choomra> IdleOne: I said, that's fine. Thanks for the link.
[01:09] <DarkNemesis_> !brainstorm
[01:09] <IdleOne> choomra: :) just wanted to explain my reasoning
[01:09] <DarkNemesis_> !brainstorm|mirror
[01:09] <nyu> im trying to set up xinarama and i appear to be doing something wrong, now my nvidia drivers say no monitors are detected
[01:09] <choomra> IdleOne: No doubt. :)
[01:10] <DarkNemesis_> hmm where to get a mirror from for brainstorm?
[01:10] <crystaltv> I went to the Nvidia site and got a driver for my card but the install failed.. giving errors in the log about gcc version or kernel source mismatch.. any ideas on how to get my card's driver installed?
[01:10] <eoke_> crystaltv: System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[01:11] <nyu> i can show my xorg if someone wants to take a look
[01:12] <steven__> Idleone: no one on here
[01:12] <belkinsa> Just wait, someone will answe your call.
[01:12] <IdleOne> steven__: can you give me a name of a windows application you would use to do what you want?
[01:13] <IdleOne> steven__: I'll do a little searching and see if I can find an equivalent
[01:13] <crystaltv> eoke: no X windows right now only cli
[01:14] <steven__> IdleOne: something to make beats with
[01:14] <steven__> no linux
[01:14] <steven__> *on
[01:14] <coz_> steven__,  you wans to make "beas"  as in music?
[01:14] <eoke> crystaltv: I think what you're using is gtk-recordmydesktop as opposed to recordmydesktop but I may be wrong.
[01:14] <belkinsa> You can use Wine and Windows program.
[01:14] <coz_> steven__,  rather  "beats"
[01:14] <steven__> coz_: yes rap beats
[01:14] <crystaltv> eoke: nope wrong C name lol
[01:14] <ridin> how can i rename my computer
[01:15] <eoke> steven__: try Hydrogen
[01:15] <coz_> steven__,  mm  hold on I think I know of a few
[01:15] <crystaltv> hostname newname
[01:15] <jarHeadless> hey my mp4 file wont plat in vlc  what gives?
[01:15] <IdleOne> !info lmms | steven__
[01:15] <coz_> steven__,  let me see if fruity loops works on linux
[01:15] <jarHeadless> hey my mp4 file wont play* in vlc  what gives?
[01:15] <IdleOne> steven__: sudo apt-get install lmms
[01:16] <coz_> steven__,   LMMS  should replace fruity loops on linux
[01:16] <belkinsa> Jar: Do you have the recristed extras on yoru Ubuntu installed
[01:16] <coz_> steven__,    http://lmms.sourceforge.net/
[01:16] <jarHeadless> belkinsa: what?
[01:17] <IdleOne> coz_: that will require he compiles it...better to offer the repo version
[01:17] <IdleOne> in this case
[01:17] <coz_> IdleOne,  I think there is one in the repository
[01:17] <lilucax> por favor alguem pode me mandar o link ubuntu br
[01:17] <IdleOne> coz_: there is
[01:17] <lilucax> brasil
[01:17] <lilucax> brasil
[01:17] <IdleOne> !br | lilucax
[01:17] <lilucax>  #ubuntu-br
[01:17] <eoke> jarHeadless: Take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[01:17] <IdleOne> lilucax: /join #ubuntu-br
[01:18] <ElectricBill> Installation of 10.04 netbook distro works OK on my laptop, but 64-bit server distro can't find network card (Atheros AR8131)
[01:18] <ElectricBill> Suggestions for install, anybody?
[01:18] <coz_> steven__,   sudo apt-get install lmms
[01:18] <coz_> steven__,  there is also  Hydrogen  a drum machine application
[01:19] <jarHeadless> eoke: thanks
[01:19] <coz_> steven__,   actualy Hydrogen may be more to your liking
[01:19] <IdleOne> steven__: if you prefer a GUI way. System > Adminstration > Synaptic Package Manager, search for lmms and then install it by checking the box to the left of it and click apply
[01:20] <steven__> Eoke: google that Hydrogen
[01:21] <coz_> steven__,  if you install hydrogen also install   hydrogen-drumkits
[01:21] <IdleOne> steven__: Hydrogen can also be installed with Synaptic
[01:21] <itai> hi ,anyone knows how i convert Divx video to Xvid ?
[01:21] <lilucax> ubuntu br?
[01:22] <slidinghorn> lilucax, What are you looking for?  we've given you the instructions to joint he #ubuntu-br channel several times now...
[01:22] <steven__> that you all you all same me BIG Sacks
[01:23] <IdleOne> lilucax: escribe /join #ubuntu-br en esta ventana
[01:23] <eoke> itai: Google kino and avidemux I believe both are viable options.
[01:23] <itai> eoke, thanks, will do
[01:24] <IdleOne> !google
[01:24] <IdleOne> avidemux is in the repos no need to google
[01:24] <IdleOne> so is kino
[01:24] <LJRuff> Google-fu has to be practiced and honed. It's not something people are just born with, eoke
[01:24] <itai> IdleOne, it's cool, i just needed a name
[01:24] <daskrEEch> Hello
[01:24] <daskrEEch> I'm having an issue with Gconf
[01:24] <Bishop_> what do i type in cli to update all? (rhel=yum update)
[01:25] <LJRuff> !ask | daskrEEch
[01:25] <daskrEEch> LJRuff: I'm typing give me a moment
[01:25] <IdleOne> Bishop_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:25] <LJRuff> Bishop_, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[01:25] <Bishop_> ok thanks
[01:25] <daskrEEch> LJRuff: I've done an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and now Gnome wont start
[01:25] <daskrEEch>  it says the Gnome power manager settings could not be configured
[01:25] <BiggFREE> Hi
[01:25] <eoke> I suggested he google it to see what if they have the desired features.  I'm sure most people would rather have a google answer than no answer at all.
[01:26] <LJRuff> daskrEEch, Don't direct comments/questions to me! =P Address the entire room so we can all help you.
[01:26] <daskrEEch> Then evolutiona-alarm hrows and error saying it could not reach GConf for the possible rreason that my TCP/IP settings are not ther or I have a stale NFS lock
[01:26] <LJRuff> !hi BiggFREE
[01:26] <daskrEEch> LJRuff: I haven't asked you anything :)
[01:26] <LJRuff> daskrEEch, You're on another machine?
[01:26] <daskrEEch> LJRuff: No same machine
[01:27] <daskrEEch> no GNome != no machine
[01:27] <LJRuff> Via...? CLI? KDE?
[01:27] <daskrEEch> Though I would like someone to teach me how to Connect to the wireless via Command line
[01:27] <daskrEEch> I thought I had it but I can't get an IP
[01:27] <slidinghorn> !enter
[01:27] <daskrEEch> CLI
[01:27] <LJRuff> Thank you slidinghorn
[01:28] <LJRuff> daskrEEch, please remember Enter != Spacebar
[01:28] <LJRuff> =D
[01:28] <daskrEEch> Sure
[01:28] <LJRuff> daskrEEch, to connect to wireless via cli is fairly simple provided you have the firmware required and you are prepared for any security issues, such as WPA and needed supplicants. =)
[01:29] <BiggFREE> LJRuff: I am learning :)
[01:29] <daskrEEch> So I have Gnome not initalizing properly after an update. I get a Desktop Wallpaper and two error messages. If I drop to the command line and try to start something and put it to the X Display Iget a repeated message that Gconf cant be contacted (Or dbus) and to check my TCP/IP settings. What should I be looking for?
[01:29] <daskrEEch> LJRuff: School me :)
[01:30] <slidinghorn> daskrEEch, what are the error messages?  (if they'll take more than one line, you can use http://paste.ubuntu.com)
[01:30] <daskrEEch> slidinghorn: how can I pipe them from the GUI to pastebin?
[01:30] <LJRuff> daskrEEch, command | pastebinit
[01:31] <csmith1994> ihb
[01:31] <csmith1994> hi*
[01:31] <LJRuff> If you don't have pastebinit I think it's apt-get install pastebinit - though you can just search apt-cache search pastebin
[01:31] <LJRuff> !hi | csmith1994
[01:31] <csmith1994> need help on a netbook reverting back to windows
[01:31] <Bishop_> if i choosen (at install time) to only auto-update critical updates, does apt-get commands (update/upgrade) override that setting? (i want to update/upgrade everything, not only security updates)
[01:31] <IdleOne> csmith1994: pop in the cd and install ##windows for more help
[01:32] <IdleOne> errr wait
[01:32] <slidinghorn> csmith1994, you're trying to remove ubuntu & just keep windows from a dual boot?  try the ##windows channel
[01:32] <IdleOne> netwbook = no cd
[01:32] <csmith1994> no im not trying from a dual boot
[01:32] <LJRuff> Bishop_, good question. To be honest, I do not know - but I suspect it should. =)
[01:32] <daskrEEch> LJRuff: It's the Iwconfig command to connect to the wireless right?
[01:32] <csmith1994> i wiped out windows, and now i need it back (moms not a big fan of ubuntu
[01:32] <itai> csmith1994, can you take the hard drive out ?
[01:32] <csmith1994> no i cant
[01:33] <IdleOne> csmith1994: ##windows
[01:33] <IdleOne> they should be able to guide you
[01:33] <LJRuff> daskrEEch, it depends on what step you're on. You'll need to ifconfig wlan0 up to bring your card online as long as you have firmware, then iwconfig wlan0 essid "network"
[01:33] <LJRuff> daskrEEch, do you have wep? wpa? no security?
[01:33] <Bishop_> LJRuff, i'll try soon, and report back.
[01:33] <hiexpo> evening all
[01:33] <daskrEEch> LJRuff: No security
[01:33] <itai> IdleOne, i belive there is a LAN option just like in Linux
[01:34] <IdleOne> itai: I wouldn't know. don't do windows
[01:34] <LJRuff> daskrEEch, then once you iwconfig wlan0 essid "network name here" run dhcpcd wlan0
[01:34] <itai> IdleOne, sorry meant csmith1994
[01:35] <daskrEEch> LJRuff: run dhcpcd wlan0 is all on the same line with the iwconfig ?
[01:35] <IdleOne> itai: it is still offtopic for this channel. should move to ##windows if you can help him with it
[01:35] <LJRuff> daskrEEch, no sir. =)
[01:35] <daskrEEch> slidinghorn: how can I 2>| pastebinit ?
[01:35] <chull> i'm on my husband's computer, (Ubuntu 10.04) he downloaded the ubuntu 10.04 iso for our new box, how can he check it?~$ md5sum ubuntu-10.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[01:35] <chull> md5sum: ubuntu-10.04-desktop-amd64.iso: No such file or directory
[01:35] <chull>  
[01:36] <LJRuff> !md5sum | chull
[01:36] <red2kic> chull: "md5sum ubuntu<tab><tab>"  Don't type the filename manually.
[01:36] <daskrEEch> LJRuff: do I have to install dhcpcd first?
[01:36] <red2kic> !tab | chull
[01:36] <LJRuff> daskrEEch, if you don't have it, it'd help =D
[01:36] <chull> ty LJRuff & red2kic
[01:37] <daskrEEch> LJRuff: But then I'd need to connect to the wireless to get it :-P
[01:37] <slidinghorn> daskrEEch, first, you may have to install pastebinit (sudo apt-get install pastebinit) then you just run (command | pastebinit)  if it's an actual error dialog box, then you can just type into the paste.ubuntu.com
[01:37] <LJRuff> chull, always a pleasure
[01:37] <Bishop_> LJRuff, as you (and I!) thought, the apt-get commands does update/upgrade everything no matter what auto-update settings have been choosen.
[01:37] <daskrEEch> slidinghorn: Umm let me see if I can get epiphany started
[01:37] <LJRuff> daskrEEch, can you connect to a wired network temorarily to get it? I am not sure how to proceed without it.
[01:37] <avi_> Hey, I've got a fresh Banshee install (Lucid) and the menu bar icon seems to have replaced transparency with a white background. None of my other indicator icons have this problem.
[01:38] <LJRuff> Bishop_, good to know! Thanks for reporting back!!
[01:39] <daskrEEch> slidinghorn: http://pastebin.com/HpkKJEPR
[01:39] <daskrEEch> LJRuff: Well I would think that since I could connect to it before from the GUI all the tools I'd need would be on the computer now :)
[01:39] <guest2> how come all the ppa's in sources.list are for karmic?
[01:40] <gmonnie> im running 10.04, and i was wondering, is there anyway i can password encrypt file folders on my drive
[01:40] <daskrEEch> guest2: are you on karmic?
[01:40] <csmith1994> how can i make a windows liveusb from linux
[01:40] <guest2> weird, i did a fresh 64-bit install of lucid
[01:40] <littlebear> gmonnie: gpg
[01:40] <LJRuff> daskrEEch, my assessment as well - doesn't change the fact that I do not know how to connect via cli w/o dhcpcd. =)
[01:41] <gmonnie> littlebear: gpg? what is that?
[01:41] <daskrEEch> LJRuff: So dhcpcd is what makes it easy? :)
[01:41] <guest2> first line of /etc/apt/sources.list is "deb cdrom:[Ubuntu-Server 8.04.1 _Hardy Heron_ - Release amd64 (20080701)]/ hardy main restricted"
[01:41] <SailorReality> does installing and uninstalling Operating systems like 10 times make the harddrive die?
[01:41] <LJRuff> daskrEEch, for me! =D
[01:41] <hiexpo> to get md5sum place iso in home folder > right click on iso image > click properties > at the top copy name of file > open terminal type md5sum  paste
[01:41] <SailorReality> or mess up the computer, i also have to pull the plug in the back each time
[01:41] <daskrEEch> SailorReality: Yes
[01:41] <SailorReality> shit
[01:41] <littlebear> gmonnie: encryption
[01:42] <daskrEEch> Any activity to the hard drive makes the hard drive die
[01:42] <SailorReality> do you think this is serious tho
[01:42] <ghaspias> Hello
[01:42] <gmonnie> littlebear: how do i get gpg?
[01:42] <daskrEEch> hard drives magnetism wears out over time
[01:42] <eoke> gmonnie: TrueCrypt may be an option for you http://www.truecrypt.org/
[01:42] <littlebear> SailorReality: no unless you unplug during the copy or move
[01:42] <SailorReality> ok
[01:42] <bastidrazor> avi_: i don't know of any way to get rid of the white background unless you switch which icon it displays by going to Edit > Preferences > Extensions and check Application Indicator for Banshee and uncheck Notification Area Icon
[01:42] <littlebear> gmonnie: goto terminal and type the following : sudo apt-get install gpg
[01:42] <guest2> can somebody point me to a lucid sources.list (64-bit if it matters)?
[01:42] <daskrEEch> SailorReality: Does it harm it any more than normal activity? No not really
[01:42] <daskrEEch> slidinghorn: any insights?
[01:43] <bastidrazor> avi_: this also changes how the icon responds to clicks. it is completely different, as you will see
[01:43] <littlebear> SailorReality: I did crash a harddisk during IO ( input and output) so as long as it isn't doing that then you should be fine
[01:43] <Name141> Does the ATi driver for the 4670 come with 3D support?
[01:43] <littlebear> SailorReality: Although if the HDD is used for a very long time there will be fault
[01:44] <SailorReality> how about unplugging the computer
[01:44] <gmonnie> littlebear: i did that, and it said it couldnt find package
[01:44] <SailorReality> without properly restarting it
[01:44] <daskrEEch> Name141: depends on which driver
[01:44] <SailorReality> i mean from the back
[01:44] <Name141> daskrEEch: I am assuming the one that comes with Ubuntu.
[01:44] <red2kic> daskrEEch: I have installed OS many times. I believe. You can use System --> Admin --> Disk Utility and run SMART report on your HDD.
[01:44] <Name141> daskrEEch: From the repos
[01:44] <avi_> bastidrazor: I'm pretty sure it's not an issue with Banshee, rather an issue with Gnome not working with Banshee correctly. I've found some others in the tubes with the same issue, so I'm just following up with them.
[01:44] <daskrEEch> red2kic: assuming you have smartmontools installed
[01:45] <daskrEEch> Name141: There are two in the repos
[01:45] <littlebear> gmonnie: sudo apt-update
[01:45] <Name141> daskrEEch: Does either of them support 3D?
[01:45] <red2kic> daskrEEch: It is not installed. It's CLI package. Whatever works for you. :)
[01:45] <daskrEEch> Name141: Both support 3D only one with the 4670
[01:46] <Name141> daskrEEch: OK.  Should I even bother trying steam and games ?
[01:46] <Name141> daskrEEch: under wine
[01:46] <hiexpo> sudo apt-get update
[01:46] <daskrEEch> Name141: Pop into #winehq and ask them
[01:46] <gmonnie> littlebear: did that came up with command not found
[01:46] <linxeh> Name141: with a name like that, would you want to ?
[01:47] <daskrEEch> LJRuff: after you type sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "Name" does iwconfig tell you that you have an AP associated?
[01:47] <littlebear> gmonnie: sorry, it's actually sudo apt-get update
[01:47] <Name141> linxeh: ?
[01:47] <linxeh> Name141: "steaming pile of..."
[01:47] <eoke> littlebear: Isn't it called gnupg that package?
[01:47] <Name141> linxeh: mkayyy
[01:47] <SteveThing> Anyone familiar with PS3MediaServer?
[01:47] <LJRuff> daskrEEch, No
[01:47] <Name141> daskrEEch: Any idea on what "DirectX" it'd support? 9? 10.1? 11?
[01:48] <daskrEEch> SteveThing: #ps3linux
[01:48] <SteveThing> thanx
[01:48] <daskrEEch> Name141: 11
[01:48] <gmonnie> littlebear: ok what was the gpg install command again?
[01:48] <Name141> daskrEEch: I see. My card only support 10.1 though
[01:48] <Name141> supports
[01:48] <daskrEEch> Name141: 10.1 then :-)
[01:49] <gmonnie> nvm found it
[01:49] <littlebear> gmonnie: sudo apt-get install gpg
[01:49] <littlebear> gmonnie: there is an easier way of doing via GUI using synaptic
[01:49] <Name141> daskrEEch: I thought about the 5670, since it only draws a little more power.  But I guess that'd be more like ##hardware
[01:49] <gmonnie> littlebear: still says package not found
[01:49] <daskrEEch> Name141: #phoronix
[01:50] <zorzar> hey, what can be the cause for many programs segfaulting when i start them? i'm runnig 9.04 64 Bit with 4 GB Ram.
[01:50] <calum> hi, I was told that I should use something like ssh over ftp or ftps for an ftp server I want to set up, will vsftp allow me to use ftp with encryption?
[01:50] <zetheroo> gthumb is broken in Ubuntu :(
[01:50] <littlebear> gmonnie: ok, goto synaptic and search for encrypt
[01:50] <daskrEEch> slidinghorn: http://pastebin.com/HpkKJEPR if you are still arpund
[01:50] <eoke> gmonnie: I think littlebear might mean "gnupg" rather than "gpg"
[01:50] <littlebear> gmonnie: right, I can't exactly remember the package name lol
[01:51] <SteveThing> Does anyone know how to fix PS3MediaServer showing duplicate folders on my PS3?
[01:51] <gmonnie> thanks
[01:51] <hiexpo> gnupg > privacy guard?
[01:51] <jarHeadless> belkinsa: thanks for that
[01:51] <hiexpo> !ps3
[01:51] <littlebear> hiexpo: yup, it's used for e-mail encryption, but I use it for file encryption
[01:52] <gmonnie> ok now that i have it installed how do i use it
[01:52] <littlebear> gmonnie: when you need to encrypt, just do gpg -c *filename*
[01:52] <WarlockLord> is there a trick to making my intel 5100agn run at N speeds?
[01:52] <hiexpo> sudo apt-get instal gnupg
[01:52] <kitche> calum: umm ssh sftp is the only true ftp security really if you want encryption
[01:52] <littlebear> gmonnie: and enter a password
[01:52] <daskrEEch> Can someone look at http://pastebin.com/HpkKJEPR and give me some advice on how to fix Gnome
[01:52] <littlebear> kitche: really?
[01:52]  * daskrEEch waves at SlidingHorn|Away 
[01:53] <gmonnie> littlebear: how do i get to gpung?
[01:53] <calum> kitche:I want to run an ftp server over the internet for my laptop but I was wondering what should I use, ftps or ssh ftp? Is there sftp server software for ubuntu?
[01:53] <littlebear> gmonnie: for graphical user interface use synaptic
[01:53] <littlebear> calum: sshd is a good idea
[01:53] <kitche> calum sftp is part of ssh
[01:53] <hiexpo> gmonnie,  sudo apt-get install gnupg
[01:54] <littlebear> calum: I have sshd set up on my server so you can use ssh to access and sftp to grab files
[01:54] <calum> Oh yeah, sorry I am getting confused, ssh ftp or ftps?
[01:54] <littlebear> calum: sftp = ssh ftp
[01:54] <gmonnie> i already installed it, just trying to access it
[01:54] <eoke> daskrEEch: You might have some luck renaming ~/.gconfd ~/.gnome ~/.gnome2 but you'll loose your customisations.  If it doesn't work you can always rename them back.
[01:54] <littlebear> calum: I've never heard of ftps though
[01:55] <calum> ftps is just ftp over tls/ssl
[01:55] <littlebear> gmonnie: gpg -c *filename* and type password to encrypt and gpg *filename* to decrypt
[01:55] <daskrEEch> eoke: lets try it with gconf.d first
[01:55] <gmonnie> ok
[01:55] <WarlockLord> is there a trick to making my intel 5100agn run at N speeds?
[01:56] <kitche> calum it's still ftp
[01:56] <eoke> daskrEEch: Probably just a typo but you're looking for ~/.gconfd no period (dot)
[01:56] <calum> with sshd, do I need to forward anything other than port 22?
[01:56] <daskrEEch> eoke: Force of habit from init.d etc
[01:56] <littlebear> calum: I don't think so
[01:56] <calum> and sshd will allow me to transfer files to my laptop?
[01:57] <jarHeadless> WarlockLord: does it not do N anyhow?
[01:57] <littlebear> calum: sshd is a server, ssh is a client, you can use filezilla (software free) to access and transfer files
[01:57] <daskrEEch> eoke: moving gconfd worked
[01:57] <daskrEEch> thanks
[01:58] <calum> oh right, so I can log in using ssh, then access files I want with filezilla?
[01:58] <eoke> daskrEEch: No worries daskrEEch sorry you had to loose some of your customisations.
[01:58] <littlebear> calum: yes, but you can access and transfer directly through ssh
[01:58] <lilucax> ubuntu be
[01:58] <lilucax> ubuntu br
[01:58] <littlebear> calum: example scp localfile ftp://user:pass@littlebearz.com:remotedir/remotefilename
[01:58] <lilucax> brasil
[01:58] <lilucax> brasil
[01:59] <calum> ah good, because I was worried about someone sniffing my password on the internet
[01:59] <lilucax> viva o linux
[01:59] <SteveThing> Does anyone know how to fix PS3MediaServer showing duplicate folders on my PS3?
[01:59] <littlebear> calum: lol, ssh is pretty safe in my opnion as long as you use any other port than 22
[01:59] <lilucax> alguem aii e brasileiro
[01:59] <red2kic> SteveThing: Try ushare? ;o
[01:59] <calum> Can't I use port 22 if I have a strong password?
[01:59] <hiexpo> ubuntu is the easiest  distro out here > 3 key things to remember to operating a Linux distro is  Stop \ Look | and LISTEN
[02:00] <sansart13> i have a question: everytime i double click a mp3 in file browser rhythmbox will open and play the last mp3 played. how can i get it to play in rhythmbox by double clicking it in file browser?
[02:00] <lilucax> ubuntu br aIII
[02:00] <eoke> calum: I think nautilus (gnomes file browswer) also supports ssh so if you're using gnome you could just try "sftp://servername/"
[02:00] <SteveThing> red2kic, I've tried alot of things. I want to stick with one item and learn it...
[02:00] <littlebear> sansart13: look into filetype action
[02:00] <jarHeadless> hiexpo: that should be   stop look then learn! IMHO
[02:01] <littlebear> eoke: but isn't nautilus really horrible? i recall bad experience with it
[02:01] <t0rrentday> 10x Faster than p2p, secure, anon, movies tv music apps all free, http://www.t0rrentday.com now open for registration.
[02:01] <hiexpo> you cant make anyone learn lol
[02:01] <red2kic> SteveThing: Gotcha. I find ushare straightforward and works fine on my Xbox360. Also, PS3 Media Server isn't in the repo.
[02:01] <eoke> I use it to pull back a wordpress back up every so often and it's doesn't give me any huge issues.  Your mileage may vary however. :D
[02:02] <jarHeadless> hiexpo: anyone?
[02:02] <sansart13> well i'm pretty sure rhythmbox is the default player for mp3s if thats what you ment littlebear
[02:02] <calum> thanks all, I will look at using ssh. cheers for the help
[02:02] <calum> only other thing is, when I'm somewhere else on the internet, what IP would I use for NAT? The router's IP?
[02:02] <littlebear> sansart13: oh ops lol, sorry I use smplayer to play mp3 :(
[02:02] <hiexpo> can't teach someone something that does noes not look nor listen
[02:03] <sansart13> ahhh
[02:03] <littlebear> calum: O.o, you have dynamic ip address?
[02:03] <calum> yes
[02:03] <littlebear> calum: um. dyndns will give you a pretty good home
[02:03] <jarHeadless> calum: as your gateway?
[02:03] <calum> my router is assigned a dynamic IP every so often
[02:04] <eoke> calum: You'll also need to port forward a port on your router to port 22 on your linux server.
[02:04] <TheMusicGuy> What is the location of the config files for the main Gnome menu in Ubuntu 10.04?
[02:04] <calum> but what IP do I enter when I ssh?
[02:04] <red2kic> !info noip2 | calum
[02:04] <littlebear> calum: get dyndns
[02:05] <Name141> daskrEEch: Maybe to test things out:  I can setup Ubuntu aside from my XP, then run steam under wine without installing it directly on the ubuntu partition, just to see how things would work out?
[02:05] <littlebear> calum: instead of ip, you can do something like youruserid.noip.org
[02:05] <jarHeadless> calum: dynamic dns then
[02:05] <switch10_> where is docky's config file?
[02:05] <eoke> TheMusicGuy: # /usr/share/gnome/apps/
[02:05] <eoke> # /etc/X11/applnk/
[02:05] <eoke> # /usr/share/applnk/
[02:05] <hiexpo> this must be a server day wow
[02:05] <eoke> Appologies that was a paste with crlf in it
[02:05] <littlebear> hiexpo: lol, I'm still figuring out my own server trouble lol
[02:05] <calum> and I configure my router for DYNDNS?
[02:05] <Name141> daskrEEch: Or maybe Wubi?
[02:05] <littlebear> calum: no need, it uses port 80 to send data to dyndns or noip
[02:06] <littlebear> calum: just enable port 22 needed for your sshd I think
[02:06] <jarHeadless> ftp port 22 does ssh?
[02:06] <avi_> hey guys, I've got a 2005 Dell computer running a Ubuntu variant on an external HD, and the original XP that it shipped with on it's internal HD. I recently installed Ubuntu, and it works great, and GRUB displays on boot and I can boot to it. However, I can *not* boot to Windows XP via that GRUB menu; it says "device not found" and then some seemingly random characters, then on keypress I return to the menu. Any ideas on how I can get GRUB
[02:06] <avi_>  to boot into XP AND Ubuntu?
[02:06] <TheMusicGuy> eoke, I was referring to the per-user config files
[02:06] <nullp0inter> how do i undo /sbin/ifconfig eth0:xxx.xx.xx.xxx
[02:07] <calum> ftp is port 21, is it not?
[02:07] <DasEi> jarHeadless: use sftp, better rsync with ssh
[02:07] <littlebear> jarHeadless: yeah, for sftp yeah
[02:07] <eoke> TheMusicGuy: ~/.gnome/apps/
[02:07] <hiexpo> grub update
[02:07] <TheMusicGuy> eoke, .gnome does not exist on my system
[02:07] <TheMusicGuy> did you mean .gnome2?
[02:07] <calum> thanks for all your help, I will try using ssh
[02:07] <DeaD_SouL> hi guys, i need an uploader application like the one in cairo-dock "dnd2share", to put it on my desktop or even in the gnome-panel,.. any suggestion.... dnd2share: (just drug anything and drop it in that applet and it will upload it) and it will know what the type of that file depending on that it will choose the right hosting site
[02:08] <jarHeadless> calum: ftp port 21 for connection and port 22 for data
[02:08] <calum> right
[02:08] <eoke> TheMusicGuy: In honesty not sure
[02:09] <calum> cheers people
[02:09] <littlebear> calum: example i wrote: http://wiki.littlebearz.com/wiki/index.php?title=Rsync
[02:09] <Incarnation> is there a channel here for rhythmbox?
[02:09] <eoke> jarHeadless Calum: I think ftp listener is 21 and data is 20 or >1024 and sshd is 22.  But I could be wrong.
[02:09] <red2kic> DeaD_SouL: Dropbox?
[02:10] <lanks> i installed updates on my wubi 10.04 installation and now ubuntu won't boot. It shows and error message "error: unknown command 'loadfont'" and then restarts. Does anyone know how to fix this? thanks
[02:10] <hiexpo> Incarnation,  why u want rhythmbox?
[02:10] <littlebear> eoke: yeah, data is 20 I think
[02:10] <calum> thanks. anyways I'm off now
[02:10] <DeaD_SouL> red2kic: anything else?
[02:10] <calum> cheers
[02:10] <Incarnation> im trying to figure out how to create a playlist in rhythmbox that lets me play only some of the songs in my collection
[02:11] <verbrecher> Hello
[02:11] <Incarnation> nevermind i figured it out
[02:11] <red2kic> DeaD_SouL: What is wrong with Dropbox? You *plop* in ~/Dropbox and it'll be uploaded right away. Right-click on the file and copy Public URL.
[02:11] <alket> How can I find link ty my DropBox public folder ?
[02:11] <DasEi> jarHeadless: default port for ftp is 21, 22 for ssh
[02:11] <DeaD_SouL> its cool, but i'd rather to upload to the free sites, instead of uploading it on my box
[02:12] <red2kic> alket: /home/alket/Dropbox/
[02:12] <DeaD_SouL> its just for one use then i don't need it
[02:12] <alket> red2kic: I know that, i actually put some files in there, but I want to show it to my friends
[02:12] <littlebear> DeaD_SouL: i'm sure there tons of file sharing website online
[02:12] <hiexpo> everyone wants to use these fancy smancy  guis's audaciousworks just fine formusic
[02:12] <jarHeadless> DasEi: 22 for ssh sure ok
[02:12] <red2kic> DeaD_SouL: I understand. Gnome-Do have a plugin that'll allow you upload images no more than 1.5MB -- That's what I know so far.
[02:13] <DeaD_SouL> besides, drug & drop the file, without any modification to original one, is much better
[02:13] <verbrecher> I wonder why the Variable that should reside in rodata is in a segment with r-xp instead of in one with r--p which exists also accordigung to proc_maps. You can test it with this program: http://pastie.org/private/t3t7dczdhqhfmtm764e7yq
[02:13] <DasEi> jarHeadless: but you can always change it to where you like
[02:13] <littlebear> alket:  personally I would just upload to a http server and give out http address
[02:13] <verbrecher> I have compiled it with optimization disabled
[02:13] <alket> littlebear: I would to, but i dont have one
[02:13] <red2kic> DeaD_SouL: Or you can install noip2 (and port forwarding). That way, you plop a file in /var/www and link your friends to http://deadsoul.no-ip.org/<fileName>
[02:13] <zimbres> Hi folks, I am running a "hello world" server on my pc and trying to connect from remote machines, outside my LAN, just to test on which ports the ISP is blocking me. It doesn't matter on which port I am listening , I do not get any connection. How can they block me on every port? How can my browser be served with web pages if they are blocking me on every port??
[02:13] <jarHeadless> DasEi: hehe of course
[02:13] <switch101> docky does not start after a reinstall.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/458947/
[02:14] <DeaD_SouL> i'm already using that plugin "ImageShack", but what about the txt files, rar....etc
[02:14] <kitche> zimbres incoming is different then outgoing
[02:14] <thewizord> clo
[02:14] <verbrecher> Why is my constant number in an executable segment?
[02:14] <DeaD_SouL> noip2, is that secure?
[02:14] <terry> How do you get rescue mode?
[02:14] <littlebear> alket: feel free to use http://www.littlebearz.com/school/upload/
[02:15] <bastidrazor> zimbres: you have to be listening on a port in order for you to get a response
[02:15] <NigelS> zimbres, most likely you're behind a NAT router and the port you're trying to connect to isn't being forwarded
[02:15] <terry> Lost password....
[02:15] <terry> Help....
[02:15] <zimbres> kitche, That means they check every single tcp header?? bastidrazor
[02:15] <TheMusicGuy> I cannot figure out how to reset my Gnome menu to defaults. I've tried deleteing ~/.config/menus and that had no effect.
[02:15] <eoke> DeaD_SouL: Sorry I've seen your question halfway through have you considered ubuntu one I believe you can make files public on that too.
[02:15] <bastidrazor> zimbres: that means you need a service listening on a port before you can connect to it
[02:15] <jarHeadless> calum: ftp port 20 for connection and port 21 for data (my mistake)
[02:15] <hiexpo> terry,  lost password
[02:15] <TheMusicGuy> I also tried the "Revert" button in the menu config dialog.
[02:15] <TheMusicGuy> It has no effect.
[02:16] <TheMusicGuy> A lot of icons are missing from my menu (Gimp, Firefox, and others) even though they are installed, and I never manually removed the icons.
[02:17] <eoke> TheMusicGuy: Is System > Preferences > Main Menu > Revert not working for you?
[02:17] <NigelS> zimbres, if the situation is Internet --> NAT Router --> you server, then nothing will reach your server unless your router knows where to pass it. Have you verified that that's not the problem?
[02:17] <zimbres> NigelS, bastidrazor , I am listening on 7890 on a public IP. The issue is that I do not get connection to the server i am running. Only if I try from a pc in the LAN
[02:17] <hiexpo> TheMusicGuy,  why they gone did u upgrade or something?
[02:17] <TheMusicGuy> eoke, it is not.
[02:17] <DeaD_SouL> eoke, its ok :) btw, dropbox and ubuntu one, are just perfect,.. but i want to share it using the free hosting sites, like imageshack for images, eee for txt, like dnd2share, i really liked the idea, and wishing i can find one just like it
[02:17] <bastidrazor> zimbres: have your portforwarded that port on the router?
[02:17] <TheMusicGuy> hiexpo, I have no idea why they are gone. they just are.
[02:18] <eoke> TheMusicGuy: This may be of interest http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=822007
[02:18] <jarHeadless> brb
[02:18] <zimbres> bastidrazor, I suppose the problem is not on the router, since i can connect, if the remote machine is in the LAN
[02:18] <hiexpo> TheMusicGuy,  I asked a ? did u upgrade ?
[02:19] <NigelS> zimbres, no, if you can connect on the LAN then it's not using the router to route...it's just switching to the relevant connection
[02:19] <bastidrazor> zimbres: being able to connect inside the LAN has nothing to do with the router, correct. BUT in order to connect from outside the LAN the router needs to know where to sends packets from outside to an IP on the inside.
[02:19] <TheMusicGuy> hiexpo, I did a fresh install, but kept my existing /home partition.
[02:19] <NigelS> zimbres, there's a difference between Internet (public address space) -> router -> your private LAN with class C address
[02:20] <oberverbrecher> Why the hell do they set channels so that only identified people can chat?
[02:20] <oberverbrecher> I dont want to tell my e-mail address to Freenode
[02:20] <ubuntu> hi
[02:20] <eoke> oberverbrecher: Alot of the time it's to tackle spam
[02:21] <zimbres> NigelS, bastidrazor , You mean that the trouble may be on my routing table configuration?
[02:21] <TheMusicGuy> hiexpo, In other words, I installed over the home partition. that was a while back, though. For some reason, certain icons don't appear in the menus after their associated packages get installed. (Or certain icons don't get removed when they are uninstalled)
[02:21] <oberverbrecher> eoke, So how often do you see spam here? I think it is for a simple reason: Everyone is like a Photoshop beginner, all filters available must be applied at least once, and hence they also apply almost all channel modes.
[02:21] <bastidrazor> zimbres: yes, if the router does not have the ports opened then it will drop the packets.
[02:21] <TiK_> im having troubles making a bootable UBS drive with startup creator it works (fat32) wth boot flags butupon resetting the computert does not boot. I at aloss
[02:21] <NigelS> zimbres, yes; if you haven't told your router to forward traffic to port 80 to the correct LAN IP then it won't know where to send it
[02:22] <Docteh> TiK_: it only boots once?
[02:22] <hiexpo> TheMusicGuy,  so you was thinking by doing a fresh install on the same partion would keep everything previously installed?
[02:22] <TiK_> yes only boots once
[02:22] <TiK_> but now it doesnt boot at all
[02:22] <eoke> oberverbrecher: I believe this channel was getting spammed to oblivion early this week hence them turning it on.
[02:22] <TheMusicGuy> hiexpo, this has nothing to do with reinstallation
[02:22] <TheMusicGuy> its a problem with my menus
[02:22] <TiK_> Docteh: do you know why
[02:23] <oberverbrecher> So I am not allowed to chat thanks to spammers if I do not give my E-Mail address to Freenode. That's the same way the western governments react to terrorism. MORE CONTROL
[02:23] <hopeless8009> any one here know how to install a module for ebox
[02:23] <jigp> hello how to use weechat? when i type "weechat" in the terminal nothin happen
[02:23] <KB1JWQ> oberverbrecher: Not topical here.
[02:23] <jigp> even "weechat curses" too
[02:23] <bastidrazor> oberverbrecher: complain in #freenode or #staff .. this channel does not care about your issues with registering
[02:23] <TiK_> Docteh: yu there?
[02:23] <eoke> oberverbrecher: Did you have a question or something you need help with?
[02:23] <NigelS> oberverbrecher, please. You can use any e-mail address you want, including a throw-away one; plus when you connect to IRC you're doing so from a visible IP Address
[02:23] <jigp> any weechat user here?
[02:23] <avi_> _> hey guys, I've got a 2005 Dell computer running a Ubuntu variant on an external HD, and the original XP that it shipped with on it's internal HD. I recently installed Ubuntu, and it works great, and GRUB displays on boot and I can boot to it. However, I can *not* boot to Windows XP via that GRUB menu; it says "device not found" and then some seemingly random characters, then on keypress I return to the menu. Any ideas on how I can get G
[02:24] <avi_> RUB to boot into XP AND Ubuntu?
[02:24] <Docteh> sec
[02:24] <TiK_> Docteh: thanks
[02:24] <pondera> ok i have a question. i have a macbook 3.1, currently the setup is partition 1 EFI, p2 mac osx, p3 win 7, p4 linux swap, p5 ubuntu. i want to install another distro of linux backtrack but when i install it it messes up grub and i can boot win7ubuntu or backtrack so i started over. i want to install backtrack without the grub option and manually add it to my current grub list. how would i go about doing that ?
[02:24] <oberverbrecher> eoke, Yes, but here people cannot help. I want to know why my constant variable is put in code segment and not in rodata even though rodata exists according to proc_map
[02:24] <pondera> cant*
[02:24] <hopeless8009> any one here know how to install a modual on ebox
[02:24] <zimbres> NigelS, Are we clear that I do not have a LAN myself? I am direct with the ISP, the only possibility is that they are blocking it.
[02:24] <Docteh> TiK_: are you booting windows with the drive plugged in? I can't see what would change the bootable flag
[02:25] <oberverbrecher> so I went to gcc but these idiots have "registered chatters only (fingerprint not yet required)"
[02:25] <TiK_> I ue gparted
[02:25] <TiK_> use
[02:25] <TheMusicGuy> brb
[02:25] <TiK_> doc: I frmatd into fat32 and  ran th startup creator on a clean drive
[02:25] <zimbres> NigelS, Thats what I conclude ...
[02:25] <TiK_> Doc: I dont have an OS insall I am booting off a livecd
[02:26] <NigelS> zimbres, you're not being very clear - earlier you mentioned being able to connect from within a LAN but now you imply you don't have one?
[02:26] <TiK_> it needs to boot off UBS to insall because i get sr0 errors
[02:26] <najunaju> Hi, how do I know if my wifi usb adaptor is supported? How do I know the chipset it has? any command?
[02:26] <XBMC|User> Hello, Everyone
[02:26] <Docteh> sr0 is the optical or?
[02:26] <TiK_> yes
[02:26] <TiK_> sda1 is the hard drive
[02:27] <alaska13> I am having problems with network manager showing as disconnected
[02:27] <bastidrazor> Docteh: that normally is your CD or DVD drive
[02:27] <TiK_> do: i cant install from a cd so I need to boot with this USB drive like I did last time
[02:27] <oberverbrecher> When you get what sd and sr means, you can remember it more easily, maybe
[02:27] <alaska13> even when the network connection is up
[02:27] <TiK_> but it only booted once and now it's not boting
[02:27] <zimbres> NigelS, I have tested the server on the University i study. Now I am at home, sorry for not being clear ..
[02:27] <pondera> ok i have a question. i have a macbook 3.1, currently the setup is partition 1 EFI, p2 mac osx, p3 win 7, p4 linux swap, p5 ubuntu. i want to install another distro of linux backtrack but when i install it it messes up grub and i cant boot win7 ubuntu or backtrack so i started over. i want to install backtrack without the grub option and manually add it to my current grub list. how would i go about doing that ?
[02:27] <TheMusicGuy> I tried moving ~/.local/share/applications to a different location and then signing out and back in.
[02:27] <TheMusicGuy> that seems like it helped.
[02:28] <TheMusicGuy> I have my Gimp and Firefox icons back
[02:28] <hiexpo> najunaju,  well if you do some research on your wifi card model # and version you can find your chip set
[02:28] <TiK_> ive never instaled backtrack  cant help you
[02:28] <hiexpo> !backtrack
[02:28] <NigelS> zimbres, ah, so you don't control the network you're trying to connect to? Then it's quite possible that they are blocking certain ports or port ranges yeah :S but that's quite normal really
[02:28] <TiK_> Doc: abot the boting once.. what infomation doyou have on that
[02:28] <najunaju> it seems too new hiexpo, I cant find any info about it
[02:28] <Docteh> TiK_: maybe the issue thats giving you sr0 errors is effecting the usb :-/ I'd run memtest on that computer
[02:28] <sad> Hi
[02:29] <Mnmxse> Hi
[02:29] <sad> I need help installing a functional flash player
[02:29] <pondera> tik_ the real issue is just how do i add a OS to the bootloader ubuntu installed
[02:29] <LJRuff> !hi | sad mnmxse
[02:29] <najunaju> is there any command to know wich chipset a wifi usb has inside? hiexpo
[02:29] <hiexpo> najunaju,  what is the wifi card model and version number?
[02:29] <Docteh> TiK_: windows 7 screws with marking of partitions is all I got on that. maybe use different file system on the usb like ext2 or 4?
[02:29] <zimbres> NigelS, Yes, I do not control it. They are blocking me on every single port.
[02:29] <TiK_> Doc: it wa ext4
[02:30] <TiK_> was
[02:30] <TiK_> it still doesnt boot
[02:30] <hiexpo> najunaju,  no
[02:30] <zimbres> NigelS, For for incoming traffic.
[02:30] <TiK_> system creator makes it fat32 i think
[02:30] <DasEi> pondera: two ways : either stop bt install at grub, or put the bt repos in the coreesponding ubuntu-distro, no BT-support here
[02:30] <DasEi> pondera: have a look at unetbootin
[02:31] <TiK_> il format to ext4 and try again
[02:31] <alaska13> I am having a hard time with network manager...can anyone help?
[02:31] <hiexpo> #backtrack-linux
[02:31] <pondera> dasei i tried installing that in ubuntu but it coulding unpack the .bin file
[02:31] <Docteh> TiK_: I've got zero experience with system creator, :-/
[02:31] <hiexpo> installingbacktrack repos will create a train wreck
[02:31] <Mnmxse> Nighty night e1
[02:32] <najunaju> its a EW300NUSB hiexpo http://www.ecomspain.com/index.php/ADAPTADORES/ew300nusb.html
[02:32] <DasEi> pondera: let's met in #backtrack-linux ?
[02:32] <pondera> ok
[02:32] <hiexpo> najunaju,  what brand is that ?
[02:33] <najunaju> it identifies just by Bus 002 Device 002: ID 1b75:2770 with lsusb
[02:33] <najunaju> hiexpo: new to me too
[02:34] <farlig> when trying to add songs to my ipod in rhythmbox on 10.04 it says that "filesystem is read only". does anyone have a solution to this?
[02:35] <littlebear> farlig: mount it in fstab with umask=0
[02:35] <hiexpo> najunaju,  1 sec
[02:35] <oberverbrecher> I should let some botnets flood the nickserv with registration request. Then they maybe disable it and channels have to remove this stupid mode. How do you know wether freenode respects your privacy? What data other than your e-mail address and password do they store? How do they protect your information? People can steal your identity which usually is bound to email address by sniffing nickserv password.
[02:35] <farlig> littlebear, how exactly does the cli command look like?
[02:36] <littlebear> farlig: http://wiki.littlebearz.com search for fstab
[02:36] <gryllida> So, I found my OpenOffice.Org 3.2, which I got from the Software Center, interacting with the Ubuntu 10.04 system very badly. It doesn't have the well-known system 'Serif', 'Sans', and other fonts listed in the dropdown. It pastes text from the buffer into the documents when I middle click, but is unable to add it to buffer when I select something in an OOo document. Do you have an idea for a fix?
[02:36] <DasEi> pondera: due to setup, had to pm you
[02:37] <oberverbrecher> Also it is bullshit to say that identifying to nickserv prevents spam. It is very easy to automize the nickserv registration process if you wanted to do serious spamming.
[02:37] <KB1JWQ> !ops oberverbrecher
[02:38] <littlebear> oberverbrecher: it's not like we use the same password for freenode and email lol
[02:38] <oberverbrecher> littlebear, When you chat here while being identified it is usally safe to assume that it must be the owner of the e-mail address
[02:39] <oberverbrecher> so when someone chats using your nickserv identity it can be assumed it is you
[02:39] <littlebear> oberverbrecher: hm.. really?
[02:39] <oberverbrecher> Your nickserv identity is bound to your e-mail address and to your e-mail address is bound your real identity.
[02:40] <oberverbrecher> nickserv idenity <-> real identity
[02:40] <oberverbrecher> thanks to paranoia
[02:40] <KB1JWQ> oberverbrecher: Please keep it topical. :-)
[02:41] <oberverbrecher> I wish but it is impossible because in #freenode they have quieted me for just asking to remove that identified-people-can-only-chat mode network wide, calling me troll
[02:41] <bastidrazor> !troll | oberverbrecher
[02:41] <littlebear> ah.. I want my domain as my mask
[02:42] <farlig> littlebear, i don't understand what to do with fstab. i'm a newb on linux would you like to point out the process for me?
[02:42] <oberverbrecher> bastidrazor, so you have just been trolling? because what of these things that mean trolling did occur in #freenode?
[02:42] <KB1JWQ> oberverbrecher: Voice status in other channels doesn't change the purpose of this channel.  If you'd like to remain here, please keep to topic. :-)
[02:42] <littlebear> farlig: when you mount, you can mount from fstab
[02:43] <bastidrazor> oberverbrecher: this is not #freenode. it is #ubuntu and you crying about not wanting to register has nothing to do with ubuntu support or the /topic here.
[02:43] <littlebear> farlig: so sudo mount -a will mount automatically in /etc/fstab
[02:44] <gryllida> oberverbrecher: feel free to join #ubuntu-offtopic as well
[02:45] <farlig> so.. i should unmount my ipod first. and then write "mount -a /dev/XXX/"? and then what?
[02:46] <farlig> littlebear: so.. i should unmount my ipod first. and then write "mount -a /dev/XXX/"? and then what?
[02:46] <hopeless8009> i need some sever help any one here know how to use ebox
[02:47] <littlebear> farlig: wait, if you already mount it then just change chmod and chown
[02:47] <littlebear> hopeless8009: what is this ebox?
[02:47] <DasEi> hiexpo: errm, fine, I can't send to bt, so goto answer here or in pm, sry for that
[02:47] <ja660k> im colouring my terminal prompt, one for root, one for normal... it works... but when i run sudo -s it is the normal users prompt? why?
[02:47] <slinker1> i am using ebox hopeless whats up
[02:47] <eoke> hopeless8009: Ask a question and anyone that can help will I'm sure.
[02:47] <farlig> littlebear, it is mounted. how do i change what you said?
[02:47] <littlebear> farlig: sudo chmod 777 /foldertoipod/*
[02:48] <SailorReality> Using gnome-config-manager to play around with the values of sleep/hibernate ...will that disable suspend/hibernate all together?
[02:48] <SailorReality> im trying to disable it since it doesnt work and causes errors on mine
[02:48] <hopeless8009> can someone tell me how to install a module onto ebox. that is a web based server admin program
[02:48] <littlebear> farlig: this allow temporarily to allow anyone on that computer to change, modify, delete, * in that folder
[02:48] <hiexpo> DasEi,  no prob
[02:49] <slinker1> hopeless8009, check pm
[02:49] <hopeless8009> slinker1, what is that
[02:49] <farlig> littlebear, is 777 the right chmod? it doesn't work to write to it, and in the terminal it says that it changed it to "read only"
[02:49] <hiexpo> DasEi,  i operate them all backtrack pentoo ubuntu i know what works sorry
[02:50] <littlebear> farlig: O.o, I thought it's 777, or was it 644, let me check
[02:50] <LJRuff> farlig, 777 changes perms to read, write, and execute.
[02:50] <littlebear> farlig: yup, it's 777
[02:51] <farlig> littlebear: oh. it says that the file system is read only
[02:51] <eoke> hopeless8009: Should be listening on https://hostname/ebox but slinker1 may have already mentioned that.
[02:51] <farlig> when i try to change it
[02:51] <SailorReality> anyone know a way to disable suspend/hibernate all together?
[02:51] <LJRuff> farlig, Are you root?
[02:51] <farlig> yeah
[02:51] <LJRuff> SailorReality, don't use it?
[02:51] <SailorReality> LJRuff: it automatically goes into suspend
[02:52] <LJRuff> SailorReality, System->Preferences->Power Settings
[02:52] <Am0dynAmiC> !french
[02:52] <magn3ts> I'd really freaking love it if Ubuntu would actually eject my disc
[02:52] <SailorReality> LJRuff: i tried that
[02:52] <magn3ts> since its making a mechanical sound that sounds really bad for my laptop
[02:52] <LJRuff> SailorReality, check the screen saver?
[02:52] <littlebear> farlig: um. i'm not too sure as I set mine with chown, chmod and /etc/fstab
[02:53] <SailorReality> LJRuff: that might work guess ill just set it to never
[02:53] <eoke> SailorReality: This might be of interest even though it's for an old version of Ubuntu https://jeremy.visser.name/2007/02/08/how-to-disable-suspend-and-hibernate-for-all-users-in-ubuntu/
[02:53] <LJRuff> littlebear, chown only works if he's the owner of the fs or is root over said fs.
[02:54] <SailorReality> thanks
[02:55] <farlig> littlebear: do u think that this will solve my problem: http://www.archivum.info/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/2010-05/11818/(Bug-163567)-Re-Ipod-nano-mounted-as-read-only.html
[02:58] <gryllida> Hello?
[02:58] <farlig> littlebear: what is your fstab config for the ipod?
[02:59] <LJRuff> !hi gryllida
[02:59] <LJRuff> !hi | gryllida
[02:59] <littlebear> farlig: I'm not at home atm, sorry, can't get to it lol
[02:59] <gryllida> So, I found my OpenOffice.Org 3.2, which I got from the  Software Center, interacting with the Ubuntu 10.04 system  very badly. It doesn't have the well-known system 'Serif',  'Sans', and other fonts listed in the dropdown.
[02:59] <LJRuff> farlig, the line should be like /dev/fd1    auto     defaults     0     0
[02:59] <gryllida> It pastes  text from the buffer into the documents when I middle click,  but is unable to add it to buffer when I select something in  an OOo document. Do you have an idea for a fix?
[03:00] <farlig> LJRuff: and that will make it writeable?
[03:00] <LJRuff> farlig, let me check mine. one moment...
[03:00] <LJRuff> farlig, #/dev/fd0               /media/fl   auto    user,noauto             0      0
[03:01] <DasEi> gryllida: fonds can be set , see
[03:01] <LJRuff> That makes my stuff writable.
[03:01] <DasEi> !fonts
[03:01] <statim> anyone know where /var/run is defined? dont see it in fstab... id like to make my own directory like /var/run that is purely temporary
[03:01] <DasEi> gryllida: if you don't need the quite hevy oo-suite, have a look at abiword, too, more handie to me
[03:02] <LJRuff> statim, is /var on the same part as /?
[03:03] <statim> LJRuff: dont see anything with just /var so i think that means its part of /
[03:03] <LJRuff> statim, yep! Fire up fdisk or gparted, shrink some space and make a new part for your temp fs.
[03:04] <farlig> LJRuff: i don't get any error msg in rhythmbox when dragging files to the ipod anymore, but still there are no new files showing up in the ipod. seems like nothings happening. do you know what could be the problem
[03:04] <statim> LJRuff: ah ok, i think ill just make the necessary perms to a directory in /var/run then.  i didnt know it involved that
[03:05] <LJRuff> farlig, eject the iPod via Ubuntu to write data to it.
[03:05] <helltraum> Anyone know how to trace/fix errors from scons please ?
[03:07] <gryllida> DasEi: I was looking, it doesn't support select/middleclick copypaste style at all.
[03:07] <gryllida> it = abiword
[03:09] <DasEi> gryllida: but copy n paste will work, as said, I use other apps, and you can configure shortcuts there
[03:10] <gryllida>  DasEi: this is unusual copy / paste, which is absent in Windows, which is 'selct text block top copy, middle click to paste', not same as ctrl + c / v, works even in Terminal, only pastes in open office, doesn't work in abiword at all.
[03:12] <meowbuntu> i need to edit pdf files. openoffice is not good even with the pdf viewer.  document viewer is just a viewer i need a pdf editer that can save in other formats like .doc etc
[03:13] <jarHeadless> meowbuntu: good question
[03:13] <daniel_> Hello everyone
[03:13] <DasEi> gryllida: both, rightclick or the the buttons on top do it
[03:13] <littlebear> meowbuntu: hey, lol, you're right, let me search it up
[03:13] <jarHeadless> meowbuntu: most times I just C+P
[03:13] <heathen> Just got an Ion Breeze w/10.04 on it but it's DOA. Is there chat room that discusses this thing?
[03:14] <meowbuntu> ya its a good question sux though. with all the awsomessness of openoffice it opens .pdf in the drawing part. not the writer. a big disapointment
[03:14] <heathen> Doesn't even boot.
[03:15] <littlebear> meowbuntu: did you try pdfedit?
[03:15] <farlig> LJRuff: i think it might be a problem with my ipod since it is formatted on a mac. do you recognize that problem?
[03:15] <gryllida>  DasEi: this is _usual_ copypaste, ofc it works. I want the mouse copy/pasting work in the word processor.
[03:16] <gryllida> it currently works in emacs, Terminal, Firefox, .....
[03:16] <LJRuff> farlig, No, I do not. However, it should not be an issue. Macs now use OSx, which is related to Linux via the Unix tree. Furthermore, iPods run FAT, if I recall correctly, which is compatible with Linux.
[03:16] <gryllida> but only 50% in OOo and 0% in Abiword.
[03:16] <LJRuff> farlig, Unplug your iPod and close rhythmbox, then plug your iPod back in. Do you see it on the Desktop?
[03:17] <farlig> yes i do
[03:17] <farlig> this does not work howeever
[03:17] <helltraum> Anyone help please ?
[03:17] <LJRuff> farlig, right click and format it.
[03:17] <LJRuff> !ask | helltraum
[03:17] <meowbuntu> ya its a good question sux though. with all the awsomessness of openoffice it opens .pdf in the drawing part. not the writer. a big disapointment
[03:17] <edbian> helltraum, Repeat your question?
[03:17] <farlig> LJRuff: will that not erase the firmware and stuff?
[03:18] <meowbuntu> thanks littlebear pdf edit looks ok
[03:18] <LJRuff> farlig, I used to run it on mine with no ill effects.
[03:18] <helltraum> Trying to build something with scons ...
[03:18] <gryllida> DasEi: which is very annoying, I use it a lot in emacs, and often hit middle click in the word processor, and then have about a minute of yelling at it that it doesn't work, really need a fix, a week of yelling made me tired.
[03:18] <helltraum> getting a missing pulse/gccmacro.h
[03:19] <edbian> helltraum, sorry, can't offer any help.  I have no experience with that.
[03:19] <helltraum> Ok .. thanks anyway
[03:19] <LJRuff> helltraum, try #linux in the meantime
[03:19] <helltraum> Ok .. thanks ...
[03:20] <heathen> My Ion Breeze(used) arrived DOA. Anybody know a group to help troubleshoot?
[03:20] <boxbeatsy> hi guys, is there a way to pause all php processes running?
[03:21] <meowbuntu> littlebear: again pdfedit looks more like a drawing application i want an application like adobe reader that is more a txt file program not a drawing appication ok
[03:23] <meowbuntu> littlebear: yes pdfedit is to muh like a drawing application not a pdf txt editor
[03:23] <edbian> meowbuntu, My understanding is that a .pdf is a picture.  The actual characters are no longer stored.
[03:24] <edbian> meowbuntu, It is a normal text file with mark up until you save it as a pdf.  Then it becomes a picture.  That's why gimp can open .pdf
[03:24] <xangua> meowbuntu: if you have a google account you can use google docs to transform your pdf or images into an editable file
[03:26] <boxbeatsy> hi, is there a way to pause all php processes running at a given time?
[03:26] <edbian> boxbeatsy, You can kill them and restart them.  I'm not aware of a way to pause any program without a debugger.
[03:27] <hiexpo> pdf = http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&defl=en&q=define:PDF+&sa=X&ei=avEvTMGpBoH98Aa7t9XJCw&ved=0CBIQkAE
[03:27] <boxbeatsy> edbian: blah, i can't kill it.  i need to pause all the running php processes so that i can change out a file syncrhonously
[03:28] <NigelS> edbian, PDFs are not pictures; not in the sense of an image format
[03:28] <edbian> boxbeatsy, No idea.
[03:28] <edbian> NigelS, Can you explain what they are?
[03:28] <boxbeatsy> edbian: np ill keep looking
[03:30] <edbian> NigelS, wikipedia says that it is a fixed layout 2D document with text, fonts, images, and vector images.  Obviously it's different than a word document because the text characters are not easily accessible.
[03:30] <hiexpo> portable document file
[03:31] <boxbeatsy> o hmm..i found kill -STOP PID which supposedly pauses a process, but do you think if a php thread is waiting for a response from curl, and then i pause it before it comes back, what will happen?
[03:31] <NigelS> edbian, sure, none of which makes it a picture - and the text is readily available; just open a pdf with "less" for example
[03:31] <edbian> NigelS, I'm reading more and it basically sounds like what a word document would be if it were object oriented design.
[03:31] <hiexpo> can be a text or pic
[03:31] <edbian> But it is difficult to change the text.
[03:31] <NigelS> edbian, it describes "images" using a variant of postscript - specifying vectors
[03:32] <NigelS> edbian, not enormously - it's just not something that we've had on linux yet sadly - inkscape can do it I gather
[03:32] <edbian> NigelS, Yeah, I understand that images can be in a .pdf
[03:32] <edbian> and I know what a vector image
[03:32] <edbian> is
[03:33] <jimerickson> sounds like an electron can be a particle or a wave
[03:34] <hiexpo> a pdf is  = Portable Document Format (PDF) is a file format created by Adobe Systems in 1993 for document exchange. PDF is used for representing two-dimensional documents in a manner independent of the application software, hardware, and operating system.Adobe Systems Incorporated
[03:34] <red2kic> Nobody created three-dimensional documents yet?
[03:34] <edbian> hiexpo, Thanks for copy and pasting the first line of wikipedia that I already read.
[03:34] <hiexpo> ok
[03:35] <edbian> red2kic, there is a 3D support from adobe and others
[03:35] <meowbuntu> ok all these applications for pdf viewer/editors are actually more drawing editops. not like ms word. http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/open-source-linux-pdf-writer.html
[03:35] <meowbuntu> is there nothing like adobe reader/writer that can read or just convert .pdf to .doc etc
[03:36] <urlwallace> I just installed ubuntu 10.4 and its swweeet.  Do I still need a firewall like firestarter( my router gives me stealth as per grc.com) thanks
[03:36] <red2kic> meowbuntu: How about Google Docs? :o
[03:36] <red2kic> meowbuntu: I don't know but it's something you should try.
[03:36] <meowbuntu> red: i forgot about that thanks i do use google from time to time
[03:36] <philsf> what's the proper channel to ask about packages from the canonical DX team PPA?
[03:37] <hiexpo> but actually i think a pdf is an image file because it is no longer a text file  becomes a picture
[03:38] <NigelS> hiexpo, it isn't an image
[03:38] <gryllida> help! does unix style copy paste work in OOo for you, like middle click to paste, select to copy, it won't work here, how do I turn it on?
[03:38] <gryllida> OOo doesn't have 'serif' and other system fonts listed in the dropdown
[03:39] <gryllida> looks like it lacks integration with the system
[03:39] <red2kic> gryllida: Ctrl + C / Ctrl + P works fine.
[03:40] <gryllida> red2kic: I want the mouse (middleclicky) paste to work, use it a lot in emacs, terminal, firefox, ... want to turn it on in the word processor as well, very annoying when I middle click, find it fail, look around, and find out that this is because it's OOo
[03:40] <coz_> middle click paste into open office word works here
[03:41] <gryllida> red2kic: it pastes from other apps to OOo, but no copying from OOo to anywhere, nomatter what block of text I select in OOo
[03:41] <red2kic> gryllida: The behavior occurs same here.
[03:41] <coz_> gryllida,  ok let me try that hold on
[03:41] <coz_> gryllida,  well it works with gedit let try terminal hold on
[03:42] <coz_> gryllida,  nope it works in terminal as well
[03:42] <gryllida> red2kic, oh, please look into your fonts dropdown, are 'serif' and 'monospace' and other system fonts listed?
[03:42] <NigelS> meowbuntu, I don't know whether it was mentioned above, but inkscape can import and export PDF files now; it's not perfect but you can edit text using it - though the font might not be preserved
[03:42] <gryllida> coz_: it works for me everywhere, but not when trying to copy from OOo to anywhere, via selecting some block of text
[03:43] <gryllida> coz_: terminal,gedit, firefox are ok
[03:43] <red2kic> gryllida: They are not listed.
[03:43] <coz_> gryllida,  well here highlihgint in office   it middle click pastes everywhere
[03:43] <coz_> for me
[03:43] <gryllida> red2kic: listed where?
[03:43] <gryllida> coz_: great it works for you, I'm on ubuntu 10.04, OOo 3.2, what other info can I give you to troubleshoot me?
[03:44] <red2kic> gryllida: On the toolbar -- but you can type in "Monospace" and it'll change.
[03:44] <gryllida> red2kic: see, it works for coz_ though
[03:44] <coz_> gryllida,  let me try on maverick I dont run lucid hold on
[03:44] <red2kic> gryllida: Oh that works here.
[03:45] <red2kic> gryllida: I could sworn it didn't work -- but yeah, highlighting (and no CTRL+C) register it and bought it to geany.
[03:45] <meowbuntu> NigelS: inkskape is a drawing appliction is it not
[03:46] <gryllida> red2kic, coz_, troubleshoot me, what info should I give you, how do I make it work here...
[03:46] <coz_> gryllida,  hold on let me try on maverick
[03:46] <gryllida> ok
[03:46] <red2kic> gryllida: I don't know. :|   Try reinstall the package?
[03:46] <NigelS> meowbuntu, it's a vector drawing application yes; it will import text as text and any vector images it will try to import accurately
[03:46] <gryllida> I did. Both repo and OOo from their website have this behavior.
[03:47] <coz_> gryllida,  ok it works on maverick fine both to and from open office
[03:47] <coz_> gryllida, you say some fonts are not showing up in office?
[03:47] <gryllida> coz_: yes, I don't see 'serif' in fonts dropdown, have to type it in manually
[03:48] <coz_> gryllida,  ok run   sudo fc-cache -fv
[03:48] <gryllida> Hmmmmmm.
[03:48] <coz_> gryllida,  reopen office and see if they sh ow up then
[03:48] <gryllida> What does it do?
[03:48] <coz_> gryllida,   that regenerates the font cache
[03:49] <littlebear> -f is forced, -v is version? or verbose?
[03:49] <coz_> gryllida,   as far as the middle click  highlight paste issue  I am not sure about why that is NOT working there... it should work systemically
[03:49] <gryllida> Ok, any suggestion for middle clicking paste?
[03:49] <gryllida> oh
[03:49] <codeputty> where do i set an environment variable to be used in a init.d script?  i tried .bashrc in ~root and in ~hudson (user that the service is run as)
[03:49] <S4nD3r> Please, Id like some help to have login in task bar. like this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MessagingMenu/
[03:49] <S4nD3r> I have shutdown icon, but theres no login name anymore
[03:50] <gryllida> coz_: the main is the copying issue, I will try your line about fonts, but pasting is first priority
[03:50] <S4nD3r> what to do to restore this like original installation?
[03:50] <S4nD3r> In 10.04
[03:50] <coz_> gryllida,  first thing I would do is run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and see if anything needs to be upgraded
[03:51] <coz_> gryllida,  understood...that would certainly be a concern for me.. and I would assume for me that either I didnt something to the system or something is severly broken
[03:51] <xangua> !panels | S4nD3r
[03:51] <coz_> gryllida,  is this an upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04 or a clean install of lucid??
[03:51] <S4nD3r> I did that
[03:51] <piju> how can i request lots of CDs ?
[03:52] <bastidrazor> gryllida: isn't middle click paste just a highlight then middle click somewhere else?
[03:52] <piju> ive emailed to info@shipit.ubuntu.com, but still no respons
[03:52] <coz_> bastidrazor,  yeah but for gryllida  apparenlty this is broken with highlight from open office to somewhere else
[03:52] <gryllida> coz_: *broken with Open Office (works fine elsewhere) and I did run the updates recently, so don't know what to do next
[03:52] <coz_> gryllida,  did you run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:52] <gryllida> bastidrazor: it is. it works everyhwer but openoffice
[03:53] <DasEi> piju: that will take some time, and lots of.. will have to copy yourself I think
[03:53] <bastidrazor> coz_: ah, no idea what/why OO would do that.
[03:53] <coz_> gryllida,  ok is this an upgraded system or a clean installed one?
[03:53] <gryllida> coz_: after OS install ation, I ran update manager, had a kernel update, think this line is included in what it did.
[03:54] <Volkodav> When will  xfce be updated in repos for 10.04 to 4.6.2 ( was released in May)
[03:54] <coz_> gryllida,  ok but apt-get dist-upgrade is different than update
[03:54] <gryllida> coz_: new install of Lucid
[03:54] <coz_> gryllida,  mmm then I am definitly confused about the open officie issie it works fine on both karmic and maverick   unless this is specific to lucid
[03:55] <coz_> gryllida,  which wouldnt surprise me
[03:55] <S4nD3r> I did that, theres shutdown icon, but no login name anymore. like was in default instalation
[03:55] <red2kic> !info xfce4 maverick | Volkodav
[03:56] <gryllida> coz_: does dist-upgrate take long or need a reboot?
[03:56] <S4nD3r> This command line made this wrong: aptitude purge indicator-me indicator-messages gwibber
[03:56] <S4nD3r> How to revert this one
[03:56] <bastidrazor> gryllida: openoffice word processor or ? it is working for me in the word processor.. from elsewhere TO OO
[03:56] <Volkodav> red2kic: I asked about 10.04
[03:57] <coz_> gryllida,  generally neither  unless  it is installing a new kernel
[03:57] <red2kic> Volkodav: Use Xfce4 PPA if it's available. Try asking in #xubuntu too
[03:57] <red2kic> Volkodav: Also...
[03:57] <red2kic> !latest | Volkodav
[03:57] <trism> S4nD3r: indicator-me is the package for the part you want, you'll need to reinstall that if you want it back
[03:57] <Black_Phantom> Hey all how do I install wxPython in Ubuntu, more precisely what are the name of the packages that I should install ?
[03:57] <coz_> Volkodav,    https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ppa
[03:59] <Volkodav> Thanks coz_ and red2kic - this release was a bug fix so i figured it should get in
[03:59] <gryllida> coz_: should I close OOo before running your line?
[03:59] <red2kic> Black_Phantom: python-wxgtk2.6 ?
[03:59] <red2kic> Black_Phantom: "aptitude search python-wxgtk"
[03:59] <Black_Phantom> red2kic, thanks i found it )
[03:59] <coz_> gryllida,   well not necessary at all unless of course there is an open office update  which you would then have to restart it anyway
[03:59] <Black_Phantom> :)*
[04:00] <S4nD3r> so
[04:00] <S4nD3r> nothing
[04:00] <S4nD3r> I have the icon
[04:00] <S4nD3r> but no login name anymore
[04:00] <FloodBot1> S4nD3r: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:01] <red2kic> S4nD3r: To revert back -- "aptitude install indicator-me indicator-messages gwibber" then...
[04:01] <red2kic> !resetpanels | S4nD3r
[04:01] <trism> S4nD3r: you don't need to reset the panel, you just need to log out and in again to restart indicator-applet-session
[04:01] <gryllida> I guess this is a kernel update, coz_? Get:1 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-updates/main linux-image-2.6.32-23-generic 2.6.32-23.37 [31.5MB]
[04:02] <IdleOne> gryllida: yes
[04:02] <S4nD3r> I will logout to try it
[04:02] <S4nD3r> thanks for while
[04:02] <gryllida>  IdleOne: ok....
[04:03] <gryllida> This is 10.04, how often are kernel updates happening?
[04:05] <red2kic> gryllida: Kernels are pretty awesome. http://www.kernel.org/
[04:05] <philsf> what's the proper channel to ask about packages from the canonical DX team PPA?
[04:06] <red2kic> philsf: The proper channel is on Launchpad (Questions) under that canonical DX team PPA. -- My best bet.
[04:06] <cwheeler> where do I put kernel boot parameters in 10.04?
[04:07] <bastidrazor> cwheeler: /etc/default/grub
[04:07] <bastidrazor> huh.. in and out
[04:08] <red2kic> cwheeler: bastidrazor said in /etc/default/grub.... and also, don't forget to run "update-grub" afterward.
[04:08] <cwheeler> thanks red2kic , my client crashed
[04:09] <mudgen> does anybody know what clojure.lang.RT is?
[04:10] <ubuntu> HEY ALL
[04:10] <ubuntu> opps
[04:10] <ubuntu> So, I have a grub2 question
[04:10] <red2kic> ubuntu: Ask away or we will never know your question.
[04:11] <ubuntu> I installed ubuntu onto a 40 gig drive, 3 partitions (/, /boot and swap) then a while later I got a bigger drive. So I partitioned that up, and copied the install across and I was wondering how to write the MBR
[04:11] <cwheeler> where are the docs on the format of /etc/default/grub
[04:11] <cwheeler> ?
[04:11] <ubuntu> I was following a how to, but it seems ubuntu uses grub2 ratehr then the howtos's grub
[04:12] <ubuntu> red, give us a chance will ya ;)
[04:12] <cwheeler> grub-install would be my guess
[04:12] <red2kic> !grub2 | cwheeler
[04:12] <red2kic> cwheeler: grub-install.  Yes.
[04:13] <cwheeler> thanks red2kic
[04:13] <red2kic> Err, I That was for ubuntu.
[04:14] <ubuntu> red2kic, I'll have a read
[04:16] <mudgen> what is clojure.lang.RT ?
[04:17] <Zelozelos> whats the offtopic channel's name again?
[04:17] <soreau> Zelozelos: #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:17] <Zelozelos> ty
[04:18] <woodworks> isn't clojure an ide? emacs?
[04:18] <ubuntu> red2kic, That documentation looks perfect especially the "Recover Grub 2 via LiveCD" section. I just wasn;t sure what to google for :D
[04:18] <red2kic> ubuntu: Great. :)
[04:19] <farlig> my ipod nano won't let me add files to it. what should i do? i use 10.04
[04:20] <astropirate> Anyone know of a good Torrent anonymizer?
[04:20] <LenovoMan> Hello I need some help with my upgrade to 10.04 LTS
[04:22] <LenovoMan> I'm getting the grub screen but then ubuntu shows the mouse, makes the ubuntu noise and restarts and makes the noise again, keeps looping.
[04:23] <al_> why is aircrack-ng not listed in a sudo apt-get install?
[04:23] <al_> fresh install of ubuntu 10
[04:23] <LenovoMan> I have a whole dev env already installed
[04:23] <un214> how's the stability of apt-get for 10.04 today?
[04:23] <LenovoMan> don't want to go through setup again
[04:24] <iflema> al_ its in Universe... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[04:24] <farlig> please, someone! help me understand why the file system on my ipod nano is "read only"
[04:24] <al_> iflema: i am assuming i need to add a respository
[04:24] <Blo> I want to Install ubuntu 10 in Microsoft virtual PC. but i cant: when i restart my virtual machine, it automatically turns off! please help me
[04:25] <LenovoMan> help
[04:25] <iflema> al_ Administration / System / Software Sources     check a box
[04:25] <Pondera> how do i unmount my wirelsee usb adapter so it can be used in virtualbox
[04:25] <Pondera> ?
[04:26] <LJRuff> Pondera, umount /device path
[04:26] <Blo> how can I install ubuntu10 in microsoft virtual pc?
[04:26] <un214> Blo: can't virtual PC boot from cdrom?
[04:26] <Pondera> ok and whats the command to look at the devices connected ?
[04:27] <LJRuff> Pondera, mount
[04:27] <Pondera> ok
[04:27] <Pondera> thanks
[04:27] <LJRuff> Pondera, mount views mounted devices. lsusb views usb devices plugged in
[04:27] <un214> you do realize he started with "wireless usb adapter" right?
[04:27] <Blo> no it can boot from cd rom but when try to install it powers down!!
[04:27] <LJRuff> un214, I chose not to ask.
[04:28] <un214> blo, first things first, try the alternate cd
[04:28] <un214> install a command line system
[04:28] <LJRuff> un214, that's like people who buy a desktop with wireless support, then wonder why it won't turn on unless they plug it's ac adapter into the wall.
[04:28] <mistermatt> what other games like wesnoth are there?
[04:28] <al_> got it now ta
[04:29] <littlebear> mistermatt: check the game section, I have airstrike, that's pretty good
[04:29] <Blo> no - I tried to install ubuntu inside windows on virtual pc but after restarting, when i choose ubuntu from boot menu it powers down!
[04:29] <LJRuff> mistermatt, check the game section of google.
[04:29] <un214> ouch
[04:29] <un214> Blo: try booting recovery
[04:30] <cristhian> hola viteh
[04:30] <Blo> i think there is a problem with virtal pc
[04:30] <cristhian> hay alguien que escriba en español?
[04:30] <cristhian> hay alguien que escriba en español?
[04:30] <Blo> virtual pc never suports linux
[04:30] <Pondera> ljrff how do i deactivate a usb that plugged in ?
[04:30] <_dac_> escribo un poco
[04:30] <Blo> but i want to install linux on it
[04:30] <cristhian> bien
[04:31] <cristhian> me podrias ayudar dac con unas dudas que tengo?
[04:31] <_dac_> si
[04:31] <Stupendoussteve> Si, pero hay un canal para el apoyo en espanol
[04:31] <cristhian> uy! gracias
[04:31] <cristhian> no sabia
[04:31] <cristhian> cual es el servidor?
[04:31] <un214> Blo: maybe try qemu
[04:31] <Guitarzan> I have always used gnome-based distros but I have a question regarding LXDE (Specifically, Lubuntu). Have I come to the correct channel?
[04:32] <Stupendoussteve> !espanol > cristhian
[04:32] <_dac_> and no
[04:32] <_dac_> Guitarzan
[04:32] <astropirate> Anyone know of a good Torrent anonymizer?
[04:32] <_dac_> Join #lubuntu
[04:32] <Guitarzan> thanks _dac_
[04:32] <_dac_> Or #lxde
[04:32] <_dac_> welcome
[04:33] <Blo> oh, quemu is very very slow
[04:33] <Blo> qemu is very slow
[04:33] <Pondera> does anyone know how to deactivate a usb device in ubuntu so i can use it in virtualbox ?
[04:33] <user7> i love you
[04:34] <user7> what is your name
[04:34] <LJRuff> Pondera, isusb - do you see it listed?
[04:34] <Pondera> yes
[04:34] <user7> i wan quit
[04:34] <volve> hey all, I'm using user-level security and have 2 users writing to the same share. The 1st user is an admin so obviously has root perms to the filesystem, but the 2nd user isn't, however she still seems to be able to delete files owned by the 1st user that have only read privileges. What am I doing wrong? :/
[04:34] <LJRuff> Pondera, mount - is it mounted?
[04:35] <Pondera> it says it not mounted
[04:35] <LJRuff> volve, check number 2's sudo permissions (/etc/sudoers)
[04:36] <Pondera> pondera@Pondera-ULT:~$ umount /006
[04:36] <Pondera> umount: /006 is not mounted (according to mtab)
[04:36] <volve> LJRuff: doesn't appear to be listed, and if I do "groups user2" they aren't in any of the sudo groups either :/
[04:37] <iflema> Blo typically, virtualbox does very well..... Pondera virtualbox-ose does not support usb. you need virtualbox (.deb) from oracle....
[04:37] <RickyWh> my top output is too big for my putty window
[04:37] <LJRuff> volve, change root's passwd and see if it helps. Number 2 may have it and may be logging in as root?
[04:37] <RickyWh> how do i view all of it?
[04:38] <volve> LJRuff: well these aren't real people, I'm still trying to get it setup...
[04:38] <LJRuff> volve, oh! My bad
[04:39] <Pondera> iflema i see can i use the same virtuall harddrive with the .deb or do i have to reinstall ?
[04:39] <NoK> of cource
[04:39] <iflema> Pondera should b ok..... NOT positive.... pretty sure
[04:40] <Pondera> and could you direct me where to get this version of virtualbox ?
[04:40] <iflema> Pondera http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads      :)
[04:41] <Pondera> thanks
[04:42] <paulmer> I have a netbook for my brother that is running ubuntu, he needs the nm-applet (network manager or whatever) so he can select the right wireless networks
[04:42] <paulmer> It's listed under the startup apps or whatever
[04:42] <paulmer> and it's enabled
[04:42] <paulmer> yet it doesn't start
[04:42] <paulmer> if I open a term and send it the exact command it's supposed to be running at start it works
[04:42] <paulmer> why isn't it auto-starting like it shoul;d
[04:48] <paulmer> Jesus, 1200 people with nothing to say
[04:48] <paulmer> facepalm
[04:49] <xangua> paulmer: does your brother have the notification area in the panel¿
[04:50] <paulmer> yes
[04:50] <xangua> paulmer: try launching "nm-applet" then
[04:51] <paulmer> xangua, if I do that it works and shows up, etc.
[04:51] <paulmer> but for some reason gnome won't auto start it
[04:51] <paulmer> which is annoying because my brother is too computer illiterate for him to start it himself
[04:51] <paulmer> plus it would be a pain
[04:52] <Guest76904> hey quick question.. I resized my partition table ages ago so I had Unallocated for linux
[04:52] <Guest76904> I deleted my recovery partition via Windows recovery disk deleter
[04:52] <Guest76904> now.. I have the extra size but where' the 60GB unallocated go?
[04:52] <Guest76904> if I do the math.. the haddrive doesn't add up to 320GB..
[04:53] <astropirate> Anyone know of a good Torrent anonymizer?
[04:53] <paulmer> Run them through tor
[04:53] <paulmer> they will be terribly slow, however.
[04:53] <paulmer> And I mean, terribly, slow
[04:53] <Guitarzan> Soliciting assistance re: system clock formatting in Lubuntu (LXDE)...I know how to do what I what in a gnome-based Distro.
[04:54] <paulmer> what?
[04:54] <cfedde> q
[04:54] <paulmer> r
[04:55]  * cfedde needs to work on his f o c u s.
[04:55] <gOLDfeesh> anyone?
[04:55] <Guitarzan> In Gnome, one could go to apps \ panel \ clock_screen0 \ prefs and check the "custom" key and in the "custom_format" one could use HTML markup to pretty it up. is there an equvilent in LXDE?
[04:55] <gryllida> Help! Updated kernel to something-23, now am getting GRUB error "unknown controller version (2)" on every boot. It boots normally, works, but is there anything I should do about it?
[04:56] <hwolff> How do I connect a computer to the wireless which has't had wifi during install? (kubuntu 9.10)
[04:56] <gryllida> !wifi
[04:56] <hwolff> Thanks
[04:56] <gOLDfeesh> 298.09 that's how much it shows the drive is.. where clearly it's not according to the box.. it's spposed to be 60GB
[04:56] <gOLDfeesh> errg 320GB
[04:57] <Guitarzan> !lxde
[04:57] <Guitarzan> :/
[04:57] <node357> hi, why when i try to play openarea with the computer there are no opponents?
[04:57] <node357> on ubuntu 10.04 64 bit
[04:58] <thune3> gOLDfeesh: the filesystems take up space to do there thing, and this space is not recorded as available, because it is not available space to the user.
[04:58] <thune3> *their
[04:59] <node357> sorry, I mean openarena
[04:59] <acovrig> I am having issues with my trackpad, if I use my finger, it doesnt work, but if I lay my finger down, it works (use 1/2 the finger instead of the tip)
[05:00] <Guitarzan> When formatting the system clock in Lubuntu, I have only the ability to enter strftime format codes. How can one format the format codes (as if from a gnome based gconf-editor)?
[05:00] <guest2> is it normal for window resizing to be slow when default resize mode in compizconfig is set to normal?
[05:00] <EdiblePlastique_> go to the software centre and search "touchpad", node357
[05:01] <EdiblePlastique_> guest2 try setting to to 'rectangle'
[05:01] <gryllida> Updated kernel to something-23, now am getting GRUB error "unknown controller version (2)" on every boot. It boots  normally, works, but is there anything I should do about it?
[05:01] <guest2> yes, that's teh default
[05:01] <guest2> the
[05:01] <gryllida> Or just ignore it?
[05:01] <guest2> I'm asking whether it's normal
[05:01] <guest2> or if my ati proprietary drivers suck
[05:01] <Guitarzan> BTW: Happy 4th of July for Eastern Time Zone US folks!
[05:01] <EdiblePlastique_> oh
[05:01] <EdiblePlastique_> I bet is it, I don't know, I don't have an ATI GPU.
[05:02] <gOLDfeesh> Hey okay sorry about that in Windows now
[05:02] <EdiblePlastique_> Did you have crappy performance on your original OS?
[05:02] <grpace> Guitarzan: HAppy 4th from Central Time !
[05:02] <gOLDfeesh> so I think I figured out the issue but I'm tryin to figure out... My buddy ran ccleaner on my computer with "Wipe Free space" so maybe that did it.. buuuuuut it still shows it as only 298 GB.."
[05:02] <guest2> EdiblePlastique_: so it's not slow for you?
[05:02] <sweetpi> gOLDfeesh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabyte#Consumer_confusion
[05:03] <acovrig> I am having issues with my trackpad, if I use my finger, it doesnt work, but if I lay my finger down, it works (use 1/2 the finger instead of the tip)
[05:03] <node357> EdiblePlastique_, what? i don't use a touchpad
[05:04] <gOLDfeesh> sweetpi so 297 GB = 320?
[05:04] <node357> i played this openarena game on windows and it had bots but this ubuntu version doesnt have them and i'm wondering why
[05:04] <gOLDfeesh> from my understanding I'm missing 23GB...
[05:04] <EdiblePlastique_> node357, but you said you were having trouble with your track pad.
[05:04] <guest2> there's 8 bits in a byte.. so anything else is absurd!
[05:04] <node357> no i didn't EdiblePlastique_
[05:04] <EdiblePlastique_> oh
[05:04] <EdiblePlastique_> wrong eprson
[05:05] <node357> thanks though
[05:05] <EdiblePlastique_> guest2, not too slow.
[05:05] <guest2> but far from real-time?
[05:05] <node357> the single player in this game can't be played beacuse the opponents don't appear
[05:05] <guest2> it starts resizing 500+ milliseconds after i drag
[05:05] <EdiblePlastique_> acovrig, Download touchpad from the software centre
[05:05] <mudgen> does anybody know how to get clojure classloaders to work with java webstart?
[05:05] <guest2> mudgen, #clojure
[05:05] <mudgen> oh sorry
[05:06] <gOLDfeesh> I'm just tryign to figure out where the 60GB I resized my parition went..
[05:06] <EdiblePlastique_> guest2, not really. I mean, it's fast enough.
[05:06] <gOLDfeesh> doesn't show up in gparted..
[05:06] <guest2> lies.
[05:06] <sweetpi> gOLDfeesh: thats right, for instance my 1TB drive shows 932GB
[05:06] <node357> so nobody has any idea why this non working game is in the software list
[05:06] <sweetpi> gOLDfeesh: so im "missing" 68GB
[05:06] <guest2> EdiblePlastique_: why else is it disabled by default even on "extra" visual effects
[05:07] <EdiblePlastique_> guest2, I have no idea.
[05:07] <guest2> because it's slow.
[05:07] <gOLDfeesh> sweetpi, you my friend are a life save. I thank you for this :)
[05:07] <EdiblePlastique_> must be
[05:07] <gOLDfeesh> SwedeMike but what about the 60GB that I resized it with..
[05:07]  * guest2 hands EdiblePlastique_ an opengl book and the source code
[05:07] <gOLDfeesh> sorry SwedeMike meant sweetpi
[05:08]  * EdiblePlastique_ gulps
[05:08] <asianmale> hey guys, anyone have problems with belkin wireless routers continually dropping the connection??? it's driving me nuts
[05:08] <gOLDfeesh> sweetpi like.. I resized it but i'm guessing because when i deleted the recovery from Windows it added the unallocated 60GB back to Windows perhaps?
[05:08] <ger> Hola
[05:09] <node357> anybody know why single player in openarena has no opponents?
[05:09] <sweetpi> gOLDfeesh: yes perhaps, does gparted show unallocated space?
[05:09] <Guitarzan> What is the equivalent of Gnome's "gconf-editor" in an LXDE environment?
[05:09] <guest2> Guitarzan: apt-get install gconf-editor
[05:10] <guest2> i'm sure gnome applications still use it under the hood
[05:10] <node357> or just ignore my question, that's cool
[05:10] <gOLDfeesh> sweetpi the only unallocated space is umm... 1MiB
[05:10] <Guitarzan> Not for the system clock, which is what I'm trying to edit. I tried that already. Thanks though. First person to bother answering +100 bonus points to team guest2
[05:11] <gOLDfeesh> node357 why not check out #openarena
[05:11] <sweetpi> gOLDfeesh: then yes, it the resize added the space to the other partition
[05:11] <node357> okay thanks gOLDfeesh
[05:11] <gOLDfeesh> node357 not a prob.
[05:11] <abin> 大家好
[05:11] <gOLDfeesh> sweetpi thanks
[05:11] <abin> 龙哥在吗
[05:11] <bazhang> !cn | abin
[05:12] <gOLDfeesh> bbiaf
[05:12] <bazhang> abin, this is english only, /join #ubuntu-cn
[05:12] <gOLDfeesh> gonna fix up my comp and what not.
[05:12] <gOLDfeesh> thanks for all the help sweetpi
[05:12] <sweetpi> gOLDfeesh: yw
[05:13] <node357> thre's nobody around in the openarena channel
[05:13] <abuayyoub> howdy
[05:13] <Uboy> hi, is that anyone use a fingerprint reader?
[05:14] <opij> what is svn?
[05:14] <node357> im trying to find an alternative to all the windows games but this isn't panning out
[05:14] <abuayyoub> Can someone help me with a problem I am having with a program called HellaNZB?
[05:14] <autumn__> Hi everyone, I've installed the NVidia propietary drivers using the Restricted Drivers tool, but now my system boots with a very low resolution and Gnome won't come up in a usable state. How can I remove the NVidia drivers?
[05:15] <Uboy> Can somebodu help me About fingerprint?
[05:15] <sweetpi> !subversion | opij
[05:15] <opij> sweetpi: what is "revision control"?
[05:16] <Uboy> autumn__ uour resulation of Boot screen falled Low or all the Graphical Desktop?
[05:16] <node357> ya know every time i've come here for help I've gotten nothing, why is that
[05:16] <sweetpi> opij: basically means keeping track of multiple versions of files, typically source code
[05:16] <autumn__> The Ubuntu screen comes up in what looks like 640x480, then when Gnome should come up I get colored garbage on a mostly black screen.
[05:16] <opij> node357: maybe because you don't state the problem
[05:16] <autumn__> I have to use virtual consoles to get to a command prompt
[05:16] <autumn__> Right now I'm using my Live CD to get here.
[05:16] <gops> hello world
[05:17] <node357> okay what? i just did, twice
[05:17] <guest2> node357: ask in a forum for more eyes
[05:17] <node357> openarena, single player, no opponents
[05:17] <gops> having some problem with hydra software
[05:17] <Uboy> autumn__ ok, what dist. u using?
[05:17] <autumn__> 10.04
[05:17] <IdleOne> node357: how is that an Ubuntu problem?
[05:18] <node357> the ubuntu forum has questions about similar things that are over 2 years old never replied to
[05:18] <opij> sweetpi: could you help me with this? http://pastebin.org/382380
[05:18] <h00k> !patience | node357
[05:18] <node357> i dont know IdleOne it was in the software center
[05:18] <paulmer> fuck, I clicked on the network manager applet and clicked on remove, now after I start it the icon for it won't appear
[05:18] <paulmer> how do I revert that?
[05:18] <h00k> !language | paulmer
[05:18] <abuayyoub> ok, I have a fraily strange question. How can I switch the buttons on chrome to the left. gconftool-2 --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout --type string close,maximize,minimize: works for all other programs except chrome.
[05:18] <paulmer> If I do np-applet --help nothing happens
[05:18] <IdleOne> node357: but the fact there are no opponents?
[05:18] <sweetpi> node357: check out: http://alternativeto.net/
[05:18] <paulmer> there isn't a man page for it
[05:18] <IdleOne> !language | paulmer
[05:18] <paulmer> h00k, that helps a lot.
[05:18] <abuayyoub> nevermind im an idior
[05:19] <abuayyoub> lol
[05:19] <paulmer> thanks IdleOne!
[05:19] <node357> IdleOne, there are supposed to be, something is wrong with the ubuntu version of this game
[05:19] <paulmer> Very constructive.
[05:19] <EdiblePlastique_> abuayyoub, download Chromium. It's a newer build and the buttons are already on the left.
[05:19] <IdleOne> node357: ahh
[05:19] <paulmer> how wonderful for you to ignore my question, the whole point in the existence of this channel
[05:19] <paulmer> and instead whine about some dumb rule
[05:19] <abuayyoub> EdiblePlastique_: cool thanks alot
[05:19] <paulmer> Awesome.
[05:19] <rollman> From the cache file /etc/ld.so.cache which contains a compiled list of candidate libraries previously found in the augmented library path. If, however, the binary was linked with -z nodeflib linker option, libraries in the default library paths are skipped.  does this option exist in the command ld i can't find any example or use with ld --help?
[05:19] <Uboy> autumn__: Boot up with your installed ubuntu, go to synaptic package manager or application > Ubuntu software center, search Nvidia, select any drivers and apps and remove one by one, The follow System > Administration > Hardware Driver and Install NVIDIA Driver Found by Ubuntu, ok?
[05:19] <abuayyoub> EdiblePlastique_: I will do that.
[05:19] <EdiblePlastique_> abuayyoub, no problem.
[05:19] <opij> could anyone please help me with this? http://pastebin.org/382380
[05:20] <h00k> !guidelines > paulmer, Please review these.
[05:20] <node357> its getting very very hard not get angry and spiteful lol
[05:20] <autumn__> Uboy: I can't get a GUI started.
[05:20] <paulmer> lol.
[05:20] <paulmer> You guys blow.
[05:20] <guest2> tsk tsk tsk
[05:20] <sweetpi> opij: did you try "apt-get -f install" like the error suggested?
[05:20] <guest2> he took so many words out of the naughty basket..
[05:20] <ubuntu> hi all
[05:20] <Uboy> autumn__: GUI does't come Up, or come up with low resulation?
[05:20] <opij> sweetpi: sure did.
[05:20] <opij> :)
[05:21] <node357> he's right though, getting any real help is like pulling teeth
[05:21] <autumn__> Uboy: It comes up with colored garbage on a mostly black screen... it's completely unusable...
[05:21] <opij> !attitude | node357
[05:22] <konzuelo> hello guys ;)... bye-bye
[05:22] <node357> great answer opij, asking me to be understanding when you can't... and not even speaking to me directly
[05:22] <sweetpi> opij: maybe try aptitude and look for broken packages
[05:23] <node357> it's eben about 12 hours of trynig to get linux to work straight
[05:23] <node357> i give up
[05:23] <opij> sweetpi: i already did that
[05:23] <ubuntu> I just copied an install of ubuntu between two drives, and I managed to get grub installed. The boot seems to mostly work, the new drive gets mounted in the right place, but the login gui never comes up. I can ctrl-alt-f1 to a new console and log in as a user, but I cannot sudo - the error says that I am unable to read the sudoers file. I suspect that the same issue is stopping X from starting to
[05:24] <Uboy> autumn__: If u can use that bad GUI for removing nvidia, do it, but if not, I havn't any Idea, sorry and I don't think u can remove any drivers and apps, in Live CD session
[05:24] <ubuntu> has anyone got any ideas?
[05:24] <LJRuff> Happy 4th of July to all!!
[05:24] <opij> Uboy: autum's gone
[05:24] <rollman> how do i link with -z nodeflib when it's not listed ld --help
[05:24] <Uboy> opij: ok, thanks
[05:24] <opij> np
[05:24] <cwheeler> how did you copy it ubuntu? are all the permissions correct?
[05:24] <cwheeler> and file owners
[05:24] <Uboy> LJRuff: Hi dude
[05:24] <sweetpi> opij: maybe a repo problem, you might have better answers from someone else here as im not familiar with the state of ubuntu repos(i dont use ubuntu)
[05:25] <LJRuff> !hi | Uboy
[05:26] <opij> thanks sweetpi anyway.:) this is starting to get aggravating. can anyone help me with this? http://pastebin.org/382380
[05:26] <Uboy> I Wanna to enable my fingerprint!
[05:26] <ubuntu> cwheeler, I copied with "cp -ax /mnt/oldroot /mnt/newroot". The persmissions are 0440
[05:26] <_dac_> ??
[05:27] <Uboy> I can't Enable my fingerprint (Dell Vostro 1520 > UPEK)
[05:27] <Uboy> I can't Enable my fingerprint (Dell Vostro 1520 > UPEK), can some bodu help me plz?
[05:27] <jamescarr> what is the name of the growl like app that displays notifications in the top right corner in gnome in ubuntu???
[05:28] <cwheeler> ubuntu I've copied systems successfully with cp -ax so that's probably not the problem
[05:28] <guest2> notifyosd?
[05:28] <jamescarr> notifyosd: command not found
[05:29] <sweetpi> Uboy: did you try: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinkFinger ?
[05:29] <guest2> jamescarr: what does the app do..
[05:29] <Shohs> Hello
[05:29] <Shohs> Can i install Java in Ubuntu ?
[05:29] <guest2> yes
[05:29] <ubuntu> cwheeler, okay, Its just a bit suspicious that when I log in as a user and go "sudo ls" it says that I am unable to read the sudoers file. I am running ubuntu live desktop, maybe the probelm could be ownership?
[05:29] <Uboy> sweetpi: yes, ThinkFinger, f_print demo, libpam and....does'y work for me
[05:29] <guest2> http://www.java.com/en/download/index.jsp
[05:29] <jamescarr> displays the notifications in the top right corner? like when networks are detected
[05:29] <clammitt> Ayatana
[05:30] <jamescarr> Guest2: dont give wrong advice
[05:30] <cwheeler> ubuntu yes that could be the problem
[05:30] <guest2> what? i'm using it..
[05:30] <jamescarr> Shohs, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-sdk
[05:30] <sweetpi> Uboy: maybe someone would be able to help if you gave the exactly model of the fingerprint reader
[05:30] <Shohs> -.-"
[05:30] <jamescarr> oh wait... it changed didn't it?
[05:30] <cwheeler> ubuntu:  -r--r-----   1 root root       557 2010-01-17 13:35 sudoers
[05:31] <cwheeler> read only permission might be important for security
[05:31] <ubuntu> cwheeler, -r--r----- 1 root root 609 2010-05-17 11:36 sudoers
[05:31] <opij> can someone please help me? i installed XBMC but now it won't uninstall, neither will it upgrade :(
[05:31] <ubuntu> cwheeler, hmmm looks fine to me
[05:31] <guest2> After running the java bin extractor, run "sudo ln -s /path/to/jre/bin/java /usr/bin/java" .. then usr "java -jar app.jar"
[05:32] <guest2> usr=use
[05:32] <clammitt> qoq that a lot of steps guest2
[05:32] <opij> I want xbmc off my system
[05:32] <gryllida> How is 'aptitude' different from 'apt-get'?
[05:32] <clammitt> *wow
[05:32] <Uboy> sweetpi: yes, the model is (UPEK TCEDA3CA000) and i try toask in many forum and rooms, and here, but no can help me
[05:32] <cwheeler> I have not copied a system for a long time so I may have forgotten something or there may be new issues
[05:32] <clammitt> hey whatever happened to that ubuntu podcast? nobodys doing one
[05:33] <guest2> clammitt: since when is java known for tight os integration? :P
[05:33] <gryllida> clammitt: sounds like time for you to make one?
[05:33] <clammitt> guest2:  i am under the impression thats the distribution's job not javas
[05:33] <clammitt> gryllida: not me i dont use ubuntu
[05:34] <clammitt> i would know what to talk BOUT
[05:34]  * guest2 wonders why the package maintainers are afraid to touch the sun/oracle jvm...
[05:34] <jamescarr> doh... what is the default growl like app that comes with ubuntu 10???
[05:34] <Uboy> sweetpi: so what can I do?
[05:34] <gryllida> growl like?
[05:34] <gryllida> what is its function?
[05:34] <clammitt> guest2 i thought ubunbtu had a sun java package already
[05:34] <sweetpi> Uboy: (warning: i know nothing about fingerprint readers) what errors do you get with the instructions from thinkfinger?
[05:34] <jamescarr> yeah... growl on mac
[05:34] <guest2> clammitt: but that's openjdk?
[05:34] <jamescarr> the thing that displays notifications in the top right corner
[05:34] <gryllida> !info sun-java6-sdk
[05:35] <clammitt> guest sun-jre?
[05:35] <gryllida> !info java
[05:35] <bazhang> !java
[05:35] <cwheeler> how do I get ubuntu kernel source packages?
[05:35] <Uboy> sweetpi: usb device not found
[05:35] <winston84> hi all! what do you think is the best console font?
[05:35] <cwheeler> !kernel-source
[05:35] <bazhang> guest2, enable the partner repo
[05:35] <gryllida>  winston84: Monospace?
[05:36] <guest2> bazhang: it's okay.. I downloaded the extractor from the java website then created a symbolic link to it under /usr/bin/java ..
[05:36] <winston84> dunno :)
[05:36] <sweetpi> Uboy: after what part of the instructions(i.e. what command did you run?) maybe you could pastebin your exact steps
[05:36] <clammitt> i just wanna keep up on latest big changes to ubuntu where would i go for that? not small things like replacing aptitude with apt-get etc.. im a little saddened that one podcast seems to have disappeared :(
[05:36] <Uboy> sweetpi: but in "lsusb" command output I can see the name UPEK in first line http://pastebin.com/JuNZJWFS
[05:37] <guest2> clammitt: create.. don't consume
[05:37] <clammitt> guest2: and that means what?
[05:37] <cwheeler> !source-packages
[05:38] <bazhang> clammitt, check the development roadmap? read the new ubuntu manual, you can subscribe to the main developers podcasts as well
[05:38] <Uboy> sweetpi: after this command: sudo tf-tool --acquire
[05:38] <bazhang> !manual | clammitt
[05:38] <gryllida> How do I update Abobe Flash player? Do I need to add a repo to Software Center for that?
[05:38] <bazhang> clammitt, the mailing lists are also a good source of info
[05:38] <rcsheets> 'ip addr' shows my eth0 interface as "<BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UNKNOWN qlen 1000" ... what does "state UNKNOWN" mean? ... that seems bad.
[05:39] <iflema> clammitt https://lists.ubuntu.com/
[05:39] <Shohs> How do i unset admin password in Ubuntu ?
[05:39] <clammitt> bazhang: hm didnt know the devs had one.. i google around but these dont turn up.. i guess ill try to find that unless you have a link on hand
[05:39] <gryllida> !root
[05:39] <gryllida> Shohs ^
[05:39] <bazhang> clammitt, let me check , hang on a second
[05:39] <Shohs> Ok
[05:39] <sweetpi> Uboy: what is the exact error after "tf-tool --aquire"?
[05:40] <guest2> damn.. java really does suck, a simple gui app consumes 78mb.. whereas the identical Qt port consumes 7-8mb
[05:40] <gryllida> Shohs: you can reset your own user password in system > preferences > about me > change password button at right top.
[05:40] <guest2> oops, off-topic
[05:40] <clammitt> iflema: thanks.. though my experience with lists is that they get cluttered quite fast.. i will look at all of those though
[05:40] <Shohs> Ok
[05:40] <gryllida> Shohs: if you are in sudoers ("admin") group, then whenever you install something, you're prompted for password.
[05:41] <Shohs> Well, I will try to use sudo and it asks me pass if i try to enter pass it wont show anything.
[05:41] <gryllida> Shons: so that if a virus is trying (which is rare on linux) to run / put itself into a system dir, you will get a prompt, "enter password for app so-and-so", which can be bypassed only by you entering the password which you wouldn't do until you know the app.
[05:42] <iflema> clammitt rss feed   http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/feed
[05:42] <gryllida> Shons; to run apps as root, use sudo, or gksu, if the're graphical
[05:42] <guest2> what's stopping an app from immitating gksudo?
[05:42] <clammitt> iflema: excellent thanks
[05:43] <guest2> oh, the background dims.. i guess user-mode apps can't do that
[05:44] <Guest83228> cwheeler: its me "ubuntu", but on a different puter. I gave my root user a password using a live cd, then booted my broken install. Looks like "/" is not owned by root, its owned by a user! Opps.
[05:44] <Shohs> Aww, I want to put pass in Sudo but its not working.
[05:44] <abin> longgehao
[05:44] <abin> are you ready
[05:45] <cwheeler> that will be a problem ubuntu
[05:45] <Guest83228> cwheeler: now a "ls -ld /" gives me "drwx------ 26 root root 2010-07-04 14:36 /" -
[05:45] <bazhang> http://fullcirclemagazine.org/ clammitt there are links here to latest podcasts
[05:46] <gryllida> Updated kernel to something-23, now am getting GRUB error "unknown controller version (2)" on every boot. It boots  normally, works, but is there anything I should do about it?
[05:46] <gryllida> Since Grub just picks an OS to load, and its picked properly, should I worry, or what should I do?
[05:47] <clammitt> bazhang: great
[05:47] <bazhang> gryllida, everything works? just that error message?
[05:48] <clammitt> bazhang:  that one looks like it might be exactly what im looking for
[05:50]  * Tw|sT is loading out his 2nd Ubuntu workstation of the day.
[05:50] <cbill> Hey, i have a small issue: i just installed 64bit ubuntu to my second drive(other drive was unplugged at the time), other drive is running 9.10 and im unable to mount it, disk utility and gparted do see it, but its not in "places" or /mount
[05:51] <Tw|sT> I can't get over the quality of the 10.04-LTS release.  I've had nothing but perfect results out of it so far.  Mad props to the Ubuntu Dev team on this excellent release!
[05:51] <Guest83228> okay so shoudl root "/" be shoud be rwxr-xr-x?
[05:53] <rcsheets> Guest83228: Yes, drwxr-xr-x
[05:53] <rcsheets> Guest83228: owner=root, group=root
[05:54] <Guest83228> rcsheets: exceleent, it started working after I did that.
[05:55] <rcsheets> Guest83228: yeah, i'd imagine wrong permissions on / would be a pretty bad thing
[05:55] <cbill> Can someone help me mount my 2nd harddisk, i dont see it anywhere :(
[05:56] <gryllida> < bazhang> gryllida, everything works? just that error message? // right
[05:56] <linze> morning all
[05:56] <gryllida> bazhang, should I do anything about it?
[05:56] <bazhang> gryllida, have everything backed up, just in case?
[05:57] <gryllida> bazhang: I do make backups somewhat regularly, but what this error could mean? Prior to the update, it was 'unknown control char (32)', and I ignored it, after the kernel update, it changed.
[05:58] <winston84> cbill: does "sudo fdisk -l" list your drive? look for the device file and mount it manually
[05:59] <shadowman> ok the ELF tables are defined in the ld-linux.so.2 right?
[05:59] <cbill> winston84: yes it there; so mount /dev/sda1?
[05:59] <DanDare> Hello. Where to change wich window manager Ubuntu loads from 'startx' ?
[06:00] <ImaLamer> cbill, that would be it
[06:01] <cbill> imalamer: getting an error: mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdb1 is already mounted on /
[06:01] <cbill> mount failed
[06:01] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1471138 gryllida this may shed some light
[06:01] <ImaLamer> cbill, just run "mount" does it show there (in the list)?
[06:01] <bazhang> gryllida, the second error seems to relate to the control characters, nothing awful from what I can tell
[06:02] <ImaLamer> cbill, if the list is long run "mount | grep sdb1"
[06:02] <gryllida> bazhang, can you tell a couple of words about what a control character is?
[06:02] <cbill> imalamer: yup its there
[06:02] <cbill> imalamer: /dev/sdb1 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[06:02] <ImaLamer> cbill, could it be we are looking at the wrong device (sdb*)
[06:03] <cbill> imalamer, lol im an idiot sec
[06:03] <ImaLamer> cbill, maybe something graphical such as gparted would help
[06:03] <bazhang> gryllida, not without pasting from wikipedia about it.
[06:03] <cbill> imalamer, i can see it in gparted but fails to mount
[06:04] <ImaLamer> cbill, i have a 3 second memory so i often use gparted to actually 'look at' it
[06:04] <cbill> didnt get anything from mount | grep sda1
[06:04] <ImaLamer> cbill, because it sounds like you are trying to mount the entire system again...
[06:05] <cbill> imalamer: ya i screwed up before, its sda1 im trying to mount, it is detected in gparted
[06:05] <ImaLamer> cbill, so you see it in gparted, but can't mount it to /media/some_folder_you_want_to_mount_to
[06:06] <ImaLamer> cbill, hrrrm
[06:06] <cbill> imalamer, ya i see it in gparted but not mount
[06:07] <cbill> imalamer: do i need to create a mount point perhaps?
[06:07] <ImaLamer> cbill, yes, start with a "sudo mkdir /mount/name_of_your_choice
[06:07] <ImaLamer> cbill, errr ....     /media/name
[06:08] <cbill> imalamer: ok done
[06:08] <ImaLamer> cbill, then try your mount /dev/sda1 /media/folder_name
[06:09] <cbill> imalamer, thanks, all good now :)
[06:09] <ImaLamer> cbill, sweet!
[06:09] <ImaLamer> because i need to go :)
[06:09] <cbill> imalamer, good timing haha
[06:09] <elisa87> E: package dpkg-dev has no installation candidate   .... do you know why this error happens?
[06:09] <ImaLamer> +1 dkp for me
[06:10] <sweetpi> cbill: that wont be mounted when you reboot
[06:10] <cbill> imalamer, indeed, im off to wow now lol
[06:10] <cbill> sweetpi, np just need to move some data around
[06:10] <ImaLamer> cbill, haha me too
[06:10] <chalcedony> how long is it supposed to take, showing the Hardware Monitor, before it boots or goes into the bios?
[06:11] <sweetpi> cbill: ok, just making sure you knew
[06:11] <cbill> sweetpi, will it show up in places though?
[06:11] <ross__> cbill what is wow now
[06:11] <ImaLamer> World of Warcraft
[06:11] <cbill> ross_ world ^^
[06:11] <ross__> wow now!
[06:11] <ross__> sounds so cool
[06:12] <cbill> lol
[06:12] <elisa87> E: package dpkg-dev has no installation candidate   .... do you know why this error happens?
[06:12] <ImaLamer> it's not a game, it's life
[06:12] <sweetpi> cbill: i cant remember, i think anything in /media shows up(i dont really use the gui)
[06:12] <cbill> imalamer, pretty much haha
[06:12]  * ImaLamer feels a strong bond with cbill
[06:12] <cbill> sweetpi, ok, no biggie either way, i likey the terminal
[06:12] <DanDare> cool xfce4 ubuntu look
[06:12] <ross_> i have a question, I am logged onto this channel using two computers, and somehow I still have the same user name a
[06:13] <ross_> how does that work?
[06:13] <ImaLamer> one has not died yet?
[06:13] <ross__> see?
[06:13] <sweetpi> because one is ross_ and the other is ross__ (note the 2 underscores)
[06:13] <ImaLamer> oh you have two _
[06:14] <ross__> oh i see
[06:14] <ross__> thank you - and I was getting confused
[06:18] <Liste> How do I determine my IP?
[06:18] <winston84> curl -s ip.appspot.com
[06:19] <rocket16> Is it true that PC-BSD runs faster than Ubuntu? I found the requirements (even with KDE system) on PC-BSD to be much lesser. (I simply can't tolerate how that Ubuntu is defeated by PC-BSD).
[06:19] <max__> help
[06:19] <Liste> Can you run xChat on Tor?
[06:19] <rocket16> Liste: Go to http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.whatismyip.com%2F&ei=yRkwTJL1B8mkcfnt7aQD&usg=AFQjCNGY_VKpSTObxuE1bTe9aqWoRtjHGw to see your IP
[06:19] <Pirate_Hunter> Liste, use ifconfig it might be something like 192.168.*.*
[06:19] <KB1JWQ> rocket16: Some things about BSD trump aspects of Linux.
[06:20] <rocket16> Liste: Well, I don't know about XChat, but Pidgin does. And with XChat Like Chat plugin, Pidgin behaves like XChat
[06:20] <max__> its some code in terminal its something with nautilus to axess to filsystem
[06:20] <max__> its some code in terminal its something with nautilus to axess to filsystem
[06:20] <cbill> pirate_hunter that would be internal ip though
[06:20] <max__> its some code in terminal its something with nautilus to axess to filsystem
[06:20] <rocket16> KB1JWQ: Well, but isn't there any sphere in which Ubuntu beats PC-BSD?
[06:20] <Pirate_Hunter> cbill, they dindt ask which ip they wanted and I assumed that is what they wanted
[06:20] <KB1JWQ> rocket16: Sure, some.  Not all.
[06:20] <cbill> pirate_hunter true enough, just pointing it out
[06:20] <Liste> KB1JWQ.....are you a Ham operator?
[06:21] <KB1JWQ> Yes.
[06:21] <Liste> Man...if I were you I'd change my nick......
[06:21] <Liste> Your call sign is public record
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> My call sign information is 15+ yrs out of date :)
[06:22] <KB1JWQ> Liste: Good heavens. :-)
[06:22] <Pirate_Hunter> cbill, no worries I know
[06:22] <Prodego> I think I commented on that I while ago, and it didn't matter for some reason or another, am I remembering that right KB1JWQ
[06:22] <KB1JWQ> Prodego: You are. :-)
[06:23] <Liste> Corey....right?
[06:23] <KB1JWQ> Yup.
[06:23] <verbrecher> Pirate_Hunter, I am a Pirate
[06:23] <KB1JWQ> The rest of the info's a bit out of date. :-)
[06:24] <Liste> Well, 73 anyway
[06:24] <elisa87> Casillas
[06:24] <rocket16> KB1JWQ: Thank you, :) So, can you please point me to a website or something like that, in which it is specified that in which spheres Ubuntu beats PC-BSD? :)
[06:24] <verbrecher> just look at the default compilation of the Linux Kernel for x86 processors
[06:25] <verbrecher> they compile it for too many CPUs
[06:25] <KB1JWQ> rocket16: It'll depend on your application.  The BSD kernel handles some things far better than the linux kernel.  NFS, I'm looking at you.
[06:25] <rocket16> verbrecher: I am Captain Jack Sparrow, :D
[06:25] <rocket16> KB1JWQ: My sincere thanks, friend, :)
[06:25] <amaryams> can somebody help with problem that I have with mount CD/DVD device Ubuntu 10.04?
[06:26] <gryllida> !somebody
[06:26] <amaryams> Get message in dmesg:"[    1.952404] ata4.00: ATAPI: _NEC DVD_RW ND-3520A, 1.04, max UDMA/33
[06:26] <amaryams> [    1.968254] ata4.00: model number mismatch '_NEC DVD_RW ND-3520A' != '_NEC DVD_RW OD-3521A'
[06:26] <amaryams> [    1.968258] ata4.00: revalidation failed (errno=-19)
[06:26] <amaryams> "
[06:26] <FloodBot1> amaryams: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:26] <Jordan_U> rocket16: phoronix.com does a lot of benchmarks comparing various operating systems / distributions.
[06:27] <amaryams> Sorry
[06:27] <rocket16> Jordan_U: Thank you, :) I'll have a look soon,
[06:27] <Jordan_U> rocket16: You're welcome.
[06:29] <SoulDemon> hello
[06:29] <Mqueue> hey
[06:29] <SoulDemon> i'm new here, how is eveyone?
[06:29] <elisa87> do you have the same problem? E: package dpkg-dev has no installation candidate   .
[06:30] <Mqueue> good good mate how r u ?
[06:31] <elisa87> E: package flex has no installation candidate ... whatever I try to install using sudo apt-get has the same problem. does anyone know what to do?
[06:31] <SoulDemon> good, just started using linux here in the last week. Still learning...figure i could find some help here
[06:31] <KB1JWQ> SoulDemon: What're you stuck on? :-)
[06:31] <rocket16> SoulDemon: Hello and welcome to Ubuntu IRC, :) Hope you'll enjoy here. And thanks for joining, friend, :)
[06:32] <Pirate_Hunter> elisa87, are you saying that apt-get doesn't let you install any packages?
[06:32] <SoulDemon> well not doing to bad so far, i got aircrack and all that good stuff to work. Just trying to figure out my ip address.
[06:32] <verbrecher> Wasnt it possible to dump the kernel configuration from proc or sys?
[06:32] <Mqueue> don't worry bro i had it 3 weeks ago still learning :)
[06:32] <SoulDemon> lol, yeah i'm a windows person...:)
[06:32] <Mqueue> SoulDemon >> ip addr
[06:33] <SoulDemon> it had to be something simple
[06:33] <SoulDemon> lol ty
[06:33] <Mqueue> lol
[06:33] <elisa87> pirate_hunter it asks me for the password but it say it has no installation candidate
[06:33] <KB1JWQ> SoulDemon: ifconfig from the CLI should tell it to you.
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> elisa87:  do a 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' and try 'sudo apt-get install flex' again.
[06:34] <Mqueue> if u're i gnome u can check on the top of the wireless conection right click and connection info
[06:34] <amyleto> i'm just afer some basic advice here--What program do yall prefer for DVD playback?
[06:34] <ZykoticK9> Mqueue, thanks man!  I've never seen that "ip addr" before - very cool.
[06:34] <elisa87> dr_willis is this problem according to the new version of ubuntu 10.04?
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> elisa87:  i just installed flex fine here.
[06:34] <elisa87> as I didn't have this problem in ubuntu 9.10
[06:34] <elisa87> ok
[06:34] <elisa87> let me check
[06:34] <amyleto> I've been using Totem for a while, but I'm looking to try something different.
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> elisa87: when in doubt.. Update, upgrade, try again
[06:34] <KB1JWQ> Mqueue: Same here.  That's neat!
[06:35] <Mqueue> my network card is not support so couldn't play with aircrack :D
[06:35] <fade_> hello,
[06:35] <Mqueue> fade_> hello
[06:35] <fade_> I was reading the FAQ for putting GRUB2 back on the MBR
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> amyleto:  smplayer, vlc, gnome-mplayer,
[06:36] <fade_> is there anyway I could put it back the inputs I get are completly different
[06:36] <SoulDemon> one else is running bt4?
[06:36] <SoulDemon> anyone*
[06:36] <Mqueue> SoulDemon>> only adobe flash player is slow on linux else is all the same
[06:36] <Jordan_U> fade_: What inputs?
[06:37] <SoulDemon> well i still running off a live cd atm
[06:37] <Jordan_U> !backtrack | SoulDemon
[06:37] <fade_> I managed to boot into ubuntu with supergurb
[06:37] <Mqueue> SoulDemon>> lol scared to jump ships lol
[06:37] <fade_> and I have a /boot partition
[06:37] <fade_> so when I did mount | tail -1
[06:37] <SoulDemon> yeah, i will have to work on this for a month or two
[06:38] <fade_> I got this gvfs-fuse-daemon on /home/fade/.gvfs type fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon (rw,nosuid,nodev,user=fade)
[06:38] <SoulDemon> i havnt had the internet since i moved into my apt. Thats what got me here
[06:39] <rocket16> SoulDemon: See http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBcQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.whylinuxisbetter.net%2F&ei=YR4wTIHLE8ircYPIxZ4D&usg=AFQjCNFkFPz1XP0lhJuU2ncyA4Czb0BxYw (This shows Linux > Windows)
[06:39] <Mqueue> SoulDemon>> aha...so aircrack helped
[06:39] <emilio> hola some latino people
[06:39] <seanty> fade_, so are you not seeing /boot when you do a "mount" command?
[06:39] <Jordan_U> fade_: Why are you using tail -1? Could you please explain what problem you are having specifically, and on one line so that it's easy to follow?
[06:39] <SoulDemon> yup, it took me almost a week to get everything worked out. but as you can see i got it working :)
[06:39] <fade_> I already mounted the /boot partition
[06:40] <Mqueue> SoulDemon>> hahaha..nice
[06:40] <fade_> but I don't know where to go from there
[06:40] <Mqueue> SoulDemon>> it's a bit frustrating initially then u get use to it..lol
[06:40] <opengyan> facing problem in apt get a pkg ....error is ...Failed to fetch ..... Size mismatch
[06:40] <SoulDemon> now i trying to figure out what all this other "security" stuff does
[06:41] <seanty> fade_, can you please rephrase your question.  Are you not able to boot?
[06:41] <Mqueue> SoulDemon>> well there are quite a few tools like wireshark, nmap
[06:41] <Jordan_U> fade_: If you want to re-install grub to /dev/sda then run "sudo grub-install /dev/sda". Do *not* try to install to a partition like /dev/sda1.
[06:41] <SoulDemon> yeah i got wireshark running now, that why i was trying to figure out my ip so i can see my noise
[06:41] <timClicks> i have an amd-64, but would like to create a VM via VirtualBox. should I use the i686 or amd64 isos?
[06:41] <Jordan_U> fade_: If you don't know what drive to install grub to then just run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc -pcritical" and grub will be re-installed to the drive that it was installed to initially.
[06:42] <SoulDemon> what i really want to do next is setup my wireless router as a AP
[06:42] <opengyan> should i clean cache ?
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> timClicks:  to be honest with  You. I think ive used both..  Ive never really even thought about that. and i am on a 64bit box and use vmware all the time.
[06:42] <Mqueue> SoulDemon>> tor is nice with privoxy to hide your ip..something to play with
[06:43] <emilio> algun latino por aqui
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> timClicks:  vbox may have a setting where it can do either.
[06:43] <SoulDemon> whats the name?
[06:43] <Mqueue> SoulDemon>> not sure about that...i install dd-wrt on my linksys router
[06:43] <brotard> well, im here to help anybody
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> !vbox
[06:43] <KB1JWQ> !es | emilio
[06:43] <ahmad> linuxlac
[06:43] <brotard> for soem reason, im in a mood to help people today
[06:43] <brotard> so ask up
[06:43] <timClicks> Dr_Willis: thanks
[06:43] <timClicks> !virtualizer
[06:43] <Mqueue> SoulDemon>> tor & privoxy
[06:44] <fade_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc -pcritical
[06:44] <fade_> THANKS!
[06:44] <rabbit1> how to convert .vob to mpeg in hardy searched lot of sites, but no result.
[06:44] <Jordan_U> fade_: You're welcome.
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> rabbit1:  ffmpeg, mencoder, or guis to those 2 tools should be able to do it.
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> I thought a .vob was some mpeg variant to begin with.
[06:45] <fade_> I'll reboot and see if it stuck
[06:45] <brotard> rabbit1, try hardbrake
[06:45] <brotard> handbrake
[06:45] <brotard> http://handbrake.fr/
[06:45] <rabbit1> brotard: try ?
[06:45] <SoulDemon> dont know if i can run privoxy while on live cd??
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> rabbit1:  ffmpeg, mencoder, winff,  avideumux, (all in repos)  handbrake (not in the repos, last i checked but may have a PPA)
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> SoulDemon:  would have to install it. and it would install to a ram disk. so that may be an issue
[06:46] <emilio> some of you know emulator for linux
[06:46] <rabbit1> Dr_Willis: ffmpeg i am getting corrupt error
[06:46] <SoulDemon> yeah running out of RAM
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> rabbit1:  when in doubt check ffmpeg docs/homepage. Its a complex tool.  Or try a front end. mencoder is also handy to use.
[06:46] <rabbit1> brotard: hardbrake is not an option for 8.04 i guess
[06:47] <brotard> why not rabbit1?
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> rabbit1:  8.04  is a little old.. you may want to update. the video tools have all had lots of updates since 8.04
[06:47] <rabbit1> Dr_Willis: what about avio converter
[06:47] <Mqueue> SoulDemon>> whenever u want i guess
[06:47] <rabbit1> Dr_Willis: i am working on a project, i don't want to mess around atleast for a month
[06:48] <brotard> hmm the handbrake ppl dont seem to have tarballs
[06:48] <rabbit1> Dr_Willis: surely, i need an update, should be able to do at the earliest,
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> ffmpeg -i snatch_1.vob -f avi -vcodec mpeg4 -b 800k -g 300 -bf 2 -acodec libmp3lame -ab 128k snatch.avi
[06:48] <rabbit1> brotard: http://handbrake.fr/downloads.php (no download for 8.04)
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> that works for DECRYPTED vobs - example fry the ffmpeg docs -> http://www.ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-doc.html
[06:48] <brotard> lol why u usin 8.04
[06:49] <brotard> and use the thign dr willis said
[06:49] <emilio> anyone know free phone call
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> converting VOB -> avi - via Mencoder (from forum post)
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> mencoder dvd://1 -dvd-device [dvd device] -ovc xvid -xvidencopts bitrate=2000:chroma_opt:vhq=4:bvhq=1:quant_type=mp eg -vf pp=de,crop=[W]:[H]:[H]:[V],scale=[W]:-2 -alang en -oac mp3lame -lameopts vbr=3 -o [movie.avi]
[06:50] <KB1JWQ> !voip | emilio
[06:50] <rabbit1> Dr_Willis: will check out, in ffmpeg i ran "ffmpeg -i VTS_01_0.VOB -target vcd /Desktop/file.mpg" and got result saying "VTS_01_0.VOB: I/O error occured
[06:50] <rabbit1> Usually that means that input file is truncated and/or corrupted."
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> rabbit1:  got that from --> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-206273.html
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> rabbit1:  handbreak is VERY good at converting/ripping DVD -> videos.  if you have the whole disk archived somewhere.
[06:51] <VonGuard> my friend updated to the most recent version on his Aspire One, but the network selection menu and the battery monitor in his task bar have vanished
[06:51] <VonGuard> how do i add those?
[06:51] <VonGuard> where are they?
[06:52] <Wildweasal> mencoder dvd://3 -vf crop=704:464:8:6,scale=704:304 -ovc xvid -xvidencopts bvhq=1:chroma_opt:quant_type=mpeg:bitrate=800:pass=1 -oac copy -sid 0 -o /dev/null && mencoder dvd://3 -vf crop=704:464:8:6,scale=704:304 -ovc xvid -xvidencopts bvhq=1:chroma_opt:quant_type=mpeg:bitrate=800:pass=2 -oac mp3lame -lameopts vbr=2:q=3 -sid 0 -o Output.Name.avi
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> VonGuard:  perhaps reset teh gnome panels back to defaults.
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> !resetpanel | VonGuard
[06:52] <Wildweasal> before you do this you must try mplayer dvd://1, mplayer dvd://2, etc
[06:52] <Wildweasal> to make sure you get the right track
[06:53] <Wildweasal> also when you are finding the right track, use the options:  -identify -vf cropdetect
[06:53] <rocket16> Does setting mode in Pidgin have any effect? I mean can the other people view that? And if yes, do they also need to use Pidgin?
[06:53] <Wildweasal> -identify will tell you if you have any available subtitles (i hardcoded the subs in the example with "-sid 0")
[06:53] <VonGuard> thank you ubottu
[06:53] <VonGuard> thank you dr_willis
[06:54] <Wildweasal> -vf cropdetect will tell you what your crop should be
[06:56] <emilio> algun latino
[06:57] <Jordan_U> !es | emilio
[06:59] <JohnFlux> Hi all
[06:59] <RJames> Hi.
[06:59] <JohnFlux> If I do "apt-get install anything"  it says it wants to remove half my system
[07:00] <JohnFlux> sudo aptitude install build-essential
[07:00] <JohnFlux> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 83 to remove and 8 not upgraded.
[07:00] <JohnFlux> why is it going crazy? :)
[07:00] <JohnFlux> actually even just typing: sudo aptitude install
[07:00] <JohnFlux> makes it do that
[07:01] <Petskull> ?
[07:01] <Petskull> weird
[07:01] <RJames> Question: Does anyone know if ubuntu 10.04 has a default user/password?  I just installed Ubuntu 10.04 on a USB flash drive and loaded it up.. and I'm at a login screen but don't know how to login.  I was not prompted for user/pass creation during install process.
[07:01] <Petskull> try putting nothing for a password
[07:01] <seanty> !fr
[07:02] <RJames> I tired nothing for user/password and it didn't work.
[07:02] <Petskull> I think the install *does* ask you for a user and pass
[07:04] <RJames> hmm.  I followed the steps located here http://www.ubuntu.com/netbook/get-ubuntu/download and was never prompted for a user/password
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> RJames:  The only timve ive seen the live cd ask for a user/pass is when its goofed up. :) try 'ubuntu' with a blank password
[07:04] <greezmunkey> RJames: try username ubuntu pword == blank
[07:05] <greezmunkey> Hello Dr_Willis
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> RJames:  how did you 'install' it to the usb?
[07:05] <Petskull> oh, I dunno about netbooks
[07:05] <rabbit1> Dr_Willis: u here?
[07:05] <Petskull> try root/root?
[07:06] <RJames> I followed step 2 on the URL I linked..  which was to download the iso, and then use the universal usb installer
[07:06] <rabbit1> Dr_Willis: ffmpeg: I/O error -> just renamed my file to video.vob, then ran the same command, and it works :)
[07:07] <rabbit1> Dr_Willis: thanks for the help
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> rabbit1:  weird.
[07:07] <rabbit1> Dr_Willis: yeap
[07:08] <RJames> root/root didn't work
[07:08] <RJames> ubuntu/blank didn't work
[07:08] <rabbit1> Dr_Willis: may be it din't like the file name with lot of underscores in it ;)
[07:08] <RJames> I guess I can try an older iso
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> RJames:  when we said 'blank' you do realuize we mean no password right? not 'blank' but ''   :)
[07:09] <Petskull> hey- it that the live CD?
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> RJames:  if you can get to the console you colud also try setting a password. 'sudo passwd ubuntu'
[07:09] <rabbit1> Dr_Willis: this helped me http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=793120
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> RJames:  only time ive seen it asked for a password from live cd - is when X crashes or somthign weird happends
[07:10] <hnd> ok so this is a strange problem, i removed the nm-applet icon from the top panel in karmic by mistake, now i cant get it back
[07:10] <RJames> ya.. I tried 'ubuntu'/''
[07:10] <hnd> any help??
[07:10] <undecim> hnd: Look for the "indicator applet" in the add to toolbar dialog
[07:11] <etrisnanto> helllo
[07:12] <RJames> I guess I will try creating the usb image again.. without persistance
[07:12] <RJames> since that is the one step I varied from the instructions
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> RJames:  that basically made a casper-rw file is all it did.
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> RJames:  what tool did you use? the ubuntu disk-creator tool?
[07:12] <RJames> I'm not sure what casper-rw is
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> RJames:  that IS the persistant save file :)
[07:13] <RJames> no it is called the universal usb installer (http://www.pendrivelinux.com/downloads/Universal-USB-Installer/Universal-USB-Installer.exe)
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> ever want to move a setup from one pendrive to otehr.. your persistant home is in casper-rw . want to access it from a normal install. mount the casper-rw via the Loop option of mount..
[07:13] <Alejandro89> Hi !! I need some help. Please!
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> RJames:  you may want to try unetbootin - it does the basics.
[07:14] <undecim> !ask | Alejandro89
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> RJames:  it dont do persistant save however. last i checked. but thats easy to add.
[07:14] <RJames> you guys are way too smart
[07:14] <RJames> :)
[07:14] <abhi_nav> yes thats why we use ubuntu. :)
[07:15] <maxwellian> RJames: Hey, don't generalize like that.
[07:15] <RJames> haha.. sorry
[07:15] <maxwellian> RJames: I'm barely smart enough, at best.
[07:15] <RJames> is unetbootin available for windows?
[07:16] <rabbit1> abhi_nav: do u use ubuntu ?
[07:16] <undecim> RJames: Sure is
[07:16] <RJames> that's where I'm building my usb drive
[07:16] <Alejandro89> I dont know why, I was using Ubuntu and suddenly its log on (and gets "freeze"). I restarted the pc and it always gets "freeze" after the grub (when the ubuntu logo appears)
[07:16] <abhi_nav> rabbit1, yes ofcourse, because I am smart. ;)
[07:16]  * maxwellian checks to make sure he's in the #ubuntu channel, then scratches his head.
[07:16] <jackieyang> 大家好
[07:17] <hnd> ok so this is a strange problem, i removed the nm-applet icon from the top panel in karmic by mistake, now i cant get it back
[07:17] <hnd>  any help??
[07:17] <maxwellian> hnd: Did you try the suggestion from earlier?
[07:17] <undecim> hnd: Right click on the panel, click "Add to Panel" and add the "indicator apple"
[07:18] <hnd> i had restart my comp so couldnt get wht you said
[07:18] <RJames> ok.. well I'll give this usb utility I have one more try.. and then it's unetbootin for me.   Too be honest.. my netbook with XP on it went south.. and after trying to get XP back on there with a USB install several times and failing.. I said screw this.  I'm putting something cool on there. Alas.. now I'm having ubuntu trouble.
[07:18] <undecim> hnd: Or it may "notification area"... I always confuse the two
[07:18] <abhi_nav> !cn > jackieyang
[07:18] <Alejandro89> Ubuntu doesnt logs in.
[07:18] <canplaythegame> does anyone know any mame rooms
[07:19] <abhi_nav> 'mame'?
[07:19] <maxwellian> !cn > maxwellian
[07:19] <Alejandro89> Sorry, Ubuntu cant log in.
[07:19] <canplaythegame> yup mame
[07:19] <hnd> undecim: thnx that worked "notificaion area"
[07:19] <hnd> :D
[07:19] <maxwellian> Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator.  Or something.
[07:19] <canplaythegame> yes
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> canplaythegame:  theres dozens of mame webs sites. that may mention some irc channels. ive not noticed any on freenode
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> canplaythegame:  or try #mame
[07:20] <canplaythegame> tried
[07:20] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis: Heh, I just created that channel... ;)
[07:20] <canplaythegame> will look on website for channells
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> canplaythegame:  You having a spcific issue with mame? Its very well documented.
[07:21] <Alejandro89> what are the differences between the normal ubuntu start and the command "startx"? (I cant log in a "normal mode")
[07:21] <canplaythegame> nah just after info on roms not working with certain mame versions
[07:21] <maxwellian> canplaythegame: Bleh...you're in the wrong part of town. :)
[07:22] <maxwellian> Alejandro89: What happens when you turn on the computer?  You don't get a login screen eventually?
[07:22] <nOgAnOo> WHEEEEEEEEEW
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> Alejandro89:  really shouldent be any differances. startx can read/use some different config files .Xstartup or .xinitrc so it could start up a different desktop if you set it up that way
[07:22] <nOgAnOo> I HAVE NEVER USED NIX
[07:22] <maxwellian> nOgAnOo: Turn off your caps lock.
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> !manual | nOgAnOo
[07:23] <nOgAnOo> I'VE REINSTALLED WINDOWS OVER 200 TIMES
[07:23] <maxwellian> !caps
[07:23] <nOgAnOo> WHY ARE YOU WHISPERING
[07:25] <codebrainz> can you guys keep it down, I'm trying to sleep over here
[07:25] <toshiuba> anyone have sucess in installing cheops-ng
[07:25] <maxwellian> codebrainz: :)
[07:25] <Petskull> who needs irc channels?
[07:25] <Alejandro89> maxwllian: The Ubuntu icon appears and doesnt log. But if a select in grub "Log Ubuntu in fail-test mode", I wrote in the terminal "startx" and then, Ubuntu (the graphic mode really) starts. (Sorry for my bad English)
[07:25] <codebrainz> Petskull, irc bots
[07:25] <Petskull> ah
[07:26] <nOgAnOo> so this is the largest channel on the galactic communications?
[07:26] <Petskull> um... yes?
[07:26] <nOgAnOo> I have a large OS collection.. never installed ubuntu media yet tho
[07:26] <codebrainz> nOgAnOo, no time like the present
[07:26] <nOgAnOo> I love you guys
[07:27] <nOgAnOo> Usually I am banned in t-2 minutes
[07:27] <greenjon> !hi | nOgAnOo
[07:27] <Petskull> can't see why
[07:27] <maxwellian> Alejandro89: So if you just start up normally, the Ubuntu logo comes on, and it just sits there?  The login screen never comes up?
[07:29] <RocketLauncher> sup qb
[07:29] <Alejandro89> maxwellian: I have only one user and it logs automatically (when Ubuntu works fine). But now, it gets stuck in the Ubuntu loading screen.
[07:30] <RJames_> little connection mishap: I'll repeat my question since I may have missed any responses.  Isn't there a key-combo to exit the gui and bring up a console?
[07:30] <RocketLauncher> hey qb can I use Unetbootin on my second hard drive so i can boot Ubuntu livecd from it and install it on the same hard drive it's booting from
[07:30] <maxwellian> Alejandro89: What happened right before it stopped working?  Did you install something, uninstall something?
[07:30] <RocketLauncher> kthx qb
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> RJames_:  alt-ctrl-f1 through f6 will go to the console. but not close X.
[07:30] <etrisnanto>   hi...
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> RJames_:  alt-ctrl-F7 should go back to X.  simetimes its F8 or F9
[07:31] <etrisnanto> ok understood,...tks
[07:32] <Ego_Proctor> if I want to run a BASH script on startup were should I call it from?
[07:32] <Alejandro89> maxwellian: I was installing the "xbmc Media Center" from the "Software Center" of Ubuntu.
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> Ego_Proctor:  depends on what its doing.
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> Ego_Proctor:  and what you mean by 'startup' - boot up? user log in time?
[07:34] <Ego_Proctor> Dr_Willis I am having issues with my sound.  It starts muted, but the system thinks it is unmuted and on full.
[07:34] <Ego_Proctor> This happens both at startup and log in
[07:35] <RJames_> ctrl-alt-f7 took me back....
[07:35] <RJames_> and I want to take this time to say thanks to all you question answer'ers
[07:35] <RJames_> i <3 you
[07:35] <Ego_Proctor> Dr_Willis I am hoping that a script that calls alsa set Master mute and then alsa set Master 100% will fix it, but I need to take affect at start.
[07:35] <codebrainz> less than three!?
[07:36] <RJames_> that is one interpretaion.. yese
[07:36] <Ego_Proctor> Dr_Willis, and at and change in session and login
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> Ego_Proctor:  make a script in the users bin dir.  make it get launched by the system->perferances -> startup applications   and see.
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> Ego_Proctor:  test it with just a script first perhaps.
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> Ive notived that the volume mixer app sais mine is muted now. even tho its not. :) the icon is wrong.
[07:37] <Alejandro89> maxwellian: In one of the tries to enter Ubuntu, I could read the following message: "Fatal server error: no screens found"
[07:37] <maxwellian> Alejandro89: This is after trying 'startx'?
[07:38] <toshiuba> try the safemodle
[07:38] <iman> where is apache cgi-bin in ubuntu to run perl in web ?
[07:38] <codebrainz> Dr_Willis, the whole sound system is wrong :)
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> codebrainz:  i rarely have any issues.
[07:39] <codebrainz> iman, /usr/lib/cgi-bin, if that's what you mean
[07:39] <codebrainz> Dr_Willis, you are lucky then :)
[07:40] <Ego_Proctor> Dr_Willis, I am not running gnome by default, I am running openbox, so is there a way to test it in openbox  or should I just go back to gnome and test it there?
[07:40] <iman> codebrainz: yeah i think so
[07:40] <Ego_Proctor> Dr_Willis, er I know there is a way to test it in openbox, but will it be easier to test it in gnome..?
[07:40] <Alejandro89> maxwellian: No, it was when I tried to enter in the "fails-test mode" and selected in the list "fails-test mode" (or similar) again. Then, I choose "Normal mode" in that list and it allows me to write in the terminal. I write "startx" and Ubuntu starts perfect.
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> Ego_Proctor:  make a launcher/menu item that runs the script
[07:41] <maxwellian> Alejandro89: Okay, I've never had this issue, but my understanding is that you should not have to run 'startx' yourself.
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> Ego_Proctor:  or use the terminal
[07:41] <Ego_Proctor> Dr_Willis, someone in the #alsa channel told me to play with /etc/init.d/rc.local  is that advised?
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> Ego_Proctor:  you can put the script/commands in there also. but thats system wide. and may or may not work
[07:42] <Ego_Proctor> Dr_Willis, I have tested it to make sure it works, I just need it to do so at login...
[07:42] <codebrainz> maxwellian, if you use a DM like gdm or kdm, otherwise you need to startx yourself
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> Ego_Proctor:  the alsa service stuff should save/restore that.
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> Ego_Proctor:  try it in rc.local and see.
[07:42] <codebrainz> Ego_Proctor, add it to your ~/.xinitrc file
[07:42] <maxwellian> codebrainz: So you log in through the terminal, and then run startx, and that will get your desktop environment going?
[07:42] <Ego_Proctor> Dr_Willis, ok, I just saw that it was a very sparce file and didn't want to F it up
[07:42] <codebrainz> maxwellian, correct
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> Ego_Proctor:  how are you launching openbox anyway? via startx? or gdm?
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> Ego_Proctor:  rc.local does nothing by default. :)
[07:43] <maxwellian> codebrainz: Neat.  I thought startx was only for the X Server, but I guess not.
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> Ego_Proctor:  it 'exits':) put commands befor the exit command
[07:43] <codebrainz> maxwellian, it runs your .xinitrc and some other files that get the WM up and running
[07:43] <Alejandro89> maxwellian, codebrainz: I agree with you. I have installed Ubuntu normally (I think that gdm was installed).
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> I was thinking 'startx' now looks for .Xsession and somthing else  befor it looks for .xinitrc these days on ubuntu
[07:43] <zus> i can not seem to get the facebook chat going in empathy?
[07:44] <maxwellian> codebrainz: Cool, thanks.  Good to know!
[07:44] <Rp3> wrong size case has stoped my build tonight, oh well to return and continue tomorrow....  :)
[07:44] <Ego_Proctor> Dr_Willis, ok thanks...  ;)
[07:45] <maxwellian> Alejandro89: I'm Googling around a bit.  We will probably have to do some reconfiguring of gdm.
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> Rp3:  screw the MB and parts to some plywood and wallmount it. :)
[07:45] <maxwellian> Alejandro89: Give me a minute to read a thread...
[07:46] <Rp3> Dr_Willis, that thought crossed my mind... I need to read more on SSD drives and mounting /home on other drives, etc... plus too many beers now.. :)
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> Rp3:  drinking and
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> Rp3:  drinking and 'hard driving' dont mix. :)
[07:46] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis: Nice. :)
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> Rp3:  aspare /home on its own HD is always handy.   /boot/ not so much these days
[07:47] <Rp3> Dr_Willis, no worries just building but this build came to a quick halt... :)
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> Rp3:  theres also some new options comming out (or are out?) for Solide State Drives to gain some performacne
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> Rp3:  but ive never used those  Yet.
[07:48] <Rp3> Dr_Willis, got a 32GID SSD for 50 bux so I thought I would give it a go on my GF's new machine... :)
[07:48] <Rp3> GIG
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> Rp3:  thats nice. :) i hope the prices on those things drop real real real fast.
[07:48] <codebrainz> i never wait for my harddrive :)
[07:48] <mneptok>  /boot should always be a separate partition if you use LVM and/or disk crypto
[07:49] <Rp3> Dr_Willis, they are, FRYS rocks, not sure where you are, but they are great.. :)
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> Rp3:  we got one nearby.  I just tend to need space more then i need speed.
[07:50] <maxwellian> Alejandro89: Are you on a different computer than the Ubuntu one with the login issue?
[07:50] <Alejandro89> maxwellian: No.
[07:50] <Rp3> Dr_Willis, 10-4, I Have same issue, Mom & Dad give me "OLD" machines all the time, so I have 10 or so on my network..  Got my mom converted to Ubuntu almost...
[07:50] <Rp3> trying to get my dad now, he is strugling wiht winblows.
[07:51] <iksf> linuxphobic?
[07:52] <maxwellian> Alejandro89: So how are you talking to us now?  You ran startx?
[07:52] <greezmunkey> Dr_Willis: I'm still having issues with ssd's only bein able to take a limited number of write operations before they are inoperable. If that gets solved you can say goodbye to spinning platters.
[07:52] <Alejandro89> maxwellian: Exactly, I ran startx.
[07:53] <abuayyoub> Hi, I have a question if someone can help me. I live in a non English speaking country so whenever I go to google, facebook etc, or recently when using Gwibber it dosen't load in English. I assume it's because of my IP, how can I change this so English is default all over my system?
[07:54] <maxwellian> Alejandro89: And I forget, did you say that before this problem started happening, you were using automatic login?  In other words, you weren't entering your password to log in?
[07:54] <etrisnanto> hello
[07:54] <maxwellian> abuayyoub: You'd have to use a proxy, I think.
[07:54] <Ego_Proctor> Rp3, hey winblows adds a great deal to the US economy, without it here would be no great need for virus scanners, Geeks squad, armies of MS network admins, and who knows how many other jobs that have been created to prop up that great diseased whale of an operating system
[07:54] <maxwellian> abuayyoub: If they are switching on your IP.
[07:55] <codebrainz> Alejandro89, you can try to dpkg-reconfigure gdm, failing that you could try apt-get --reinstall --purge install gdm.  some things to try
[07:55] <abuayyoub> maxwellian: well, the IP is of my host country, which is not english.So when I load Facebook in Gwibber for example its in another language.
[07:55] <`Gumby> hi all.  Im trying to get my Alps touchpad working on my Sony Vaio.  I cant seem to figure out how to get it to work.  Read quite a few forums posts but most seem to be for other models.  Anyone have any suggestions?
[07:55] <asianmale> abuayyoub: your fault for speaking a stupid language i guess
[07:55] <codebrainz> abuayyoub, i think you'll need to use a proxy server
[07:55] <Alejandro89> maxwellian: Yes. I didnt know anything like "startx" two hours ago. I have this problem and then, put the live cd and start searching in the internet. Now, I can start ubuntu but only with the "startx" command.
[07:55] <asianmale> abuayyoub: non-english countries suck
[07:55] <blaze||> hello is it possible to have windows boot up by default on a dual boot with ubuntu and windows
[07:55] <maxwellian> abuayyoub: Exactly, so if you were using an http proxy located in the US, they would think you were there.
[07:56] <abuayyoub> asianmale:  lol
[07:56] <quentin> hi. I need help with xorg.conf. I chose to enable the nvidia driver and now it's not recognizing my monitor. Before I have been told to delete xorg.conf when this happens and it worked. This time I deleted it and now things are worse. Nothing loads.
[07:56] <`Gumby> quentin: do you have console access?
[07:56] <codebrainz> `Gumby, my vaio has alps *i think* and it works ok.  not that that helps :)
[07:56] <abuayyoub> maxwellian: I understand, but do i really need to go threw all that just to change my language settings?
[07:56] <asianmale> abuayyoub: lol all you want fuck-pig. Im serious...deadly serious. (yes that's a threat of violence)
[07:56] <maxwellian> abuayyoub: They're not your language settings.
[07:57] <`Gumby> codebrainz, yeah, lol.  there are issues with the newer models, specifically the F series
[07:57] <toshiuba> you can use a poxy
[07:57] <maxwellian> abuayyoub: Google's not asking you where you live, it's assuming, based on your IP.
[07:57] <abuayyoub> can someone ban this askanmale troll please?
[07:57] <toshiuba> proxy
[07:57] <quentin> `Gumby: I had a blinking cursor, but I couldn't type anything. Right now I'm using the install disk live to talk in here.
[07:58] <Alejandro89> codebrainz, maxwellian: I tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm" and the output was (translated): /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: gdm is broken or it is not tottally installed
[07:58] <Flannel> asianmale: Stop, now.
[07:58] <codebrainz> abuayyoub, i think there's a way to flag the ops.  anyway, use something like TOR or a proxy server in another country
[07:58] <maxwellian> Alejandro89: Oh, good.  That's probably the issue then. :)
[07:58] <abuayyoub> asianmale is a troll can someone ban him please?
[07:58] <codebrainz> Alejandro89, do the second command i said
[07:58] <codebrainz> whats the ubottu thing for ops
[07:58] <`Gumby> quentin: ah, your best bet is to chroot then and run nvidia-xconfig
[07:59] <abuayyoub> codebrainz: yea, I dont have a problem with proxys its jsut that I assumed it would be easier than having to do all that.
[07:59] <abuayyoub> thanks anyhow
[07:59] <maxwellian> abuayyoub: If you understand the cause, then you know it can't be easier than that. :)
[07:59] <Alejandro89> codebrainz: Sorry for the ignorance. The command is: "apt-get --reinstall --purge" and then "install gdm" or "apt-get --reinstall --purge install gdm"?
[07:59] <codebrainz> abuayyoub, i think that's the only way, because the sites will always see your remote address
[07:59] <`Gumby> quentin: actually... you probably dont even need to chroot.. install the nvidia drivers via the livecd, run nvidia-xconfig and then copy the xorg.conf it creates to your root partition after mounting it
[07:59] <swordfish_> any one tell me what is TOR?
[08:00] <toshiuba> where you see it?
[08:00] <codebrainz> Alejandro89, apt-get --reinstall --purge install gdm
[08:00] <maxwellian> Alejandro89: Don't worry, you're doing great. :)
[08:00] <codebrainz> Alejandro89, should totally remove and then reinstall gdm from scratch
[08:00] <tsooi> I believe TOR is a limited anonymizer of sorts, works inside TOR networks but not at the edge or outside it
[08:00] <quentin> `Gumby: Ok. I'm gonna try it.
[08:00] <`Gumby> quentin: you know how to do all that?
[08:02] <quentin> `Gumby: I'm not so good with the command line. I might be able to just use synaptic to get the driver installed.
[08:02] <`Gumby> quentin: yeah, thats the easy part ;)
[08:03] <Alejandro89> maxwellian, codebrainz: The output its very long, but It says that "xbmc-live" have errors !! It should be deleted from the "Software Center". Have to do a reboot?
[08:03] <abhi_nav> swordfish_, http://www.torproject.org/
[08:03] <`Gumby> you're better off opening the "Hardware Drivers" though
[08:03] <swordfish_> thankyou
[08:03] <codebrainz> Alejandro89, sudo reboot  (but I'd remove that package while you're in there)
[08:03] <quentin> `Gumby: which version of nvidia should I install. when things got messed up earlier I had installed nvidia-current.
[08:05] <Alejandro89> codebrainz: I dont understand "but I'd remove that package while you're in there". Can you re-write it in a different way?
[08:05] <codebrainz> quentin, i think there's a Jocket utility for text-mode 'jockey-text' probably
[08:05] <maxwellian> Alejandro89: 'sudo apt-get remove --purge xbmc-live'
[08:05] <codebrainz> Alejandro89, sure, apt-get remove --purge xbmc-live
[08:05] <codebrainz> heh
[08:05] <`Gumby> quentin: can you mount your root partition?
[08:05] <maxwellian> codebrainz: Actually, do you think he should purge?
[08:06] <codebrainz> maxwellian, sure, why not, if it doesn't work anyway :)
[08:06] <Alejandro89> maxwellian, codebrainz: Ok, done! Then, sudo reboot.
[08:06] <quentin> codebrainz: how would I use 'jocky-text'
[08:06] <maxwellian> codebrainz: Well I'm just hoping something went wrong during the install.
[08:06] <Zeu5> hi there, how do i create a launcher such that when i click on it, it runs the terminal window and navigates to a particular directory and does a "ls -la" WITHOUT closing the terminal window? i googled abit, but all i get are links telling me how to create keyboard shortcuts for terminal. that is NOT wat i want.
[08:06] <maxwellian> Alejandro89: Yup, good luck!
[08:06] <codebrainz> quentin, i've not used it, but it should be a friendly way to install the binary drivers
[08:07] <quentin> `Gumby: I ran nautilus in root to get to the xorg.conf. that's how I deleted it.
[08:07] <codebrainz> maxwellian, nothing an apt-get -f install can't fix :)
[08:07] <maxwellian> codebrainz: Heh. :)
[08:07] <maxwellian> codebrainz: I've never used that option, hopefully never will.
[08:07] <codebrainz> quentin, i think dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will re-generate a clean xorg.conf file
[08:08] <maxwellian> codebrainz: APT dependency resolution is black magic to me.
[08:08] <codebrainz> maxwellian, my understanding is it's just the text-mode version of the proprietary drivers thing in gnome (jocket-gtk)
[08:08] <`Gumby> quentin: if you have an xorg.conf in /etc/X11 on your root partition you can change Driver "nvidia" to Driver "nv" and X will probably work
[08:08] <codebrainz> maxwellian, oops, i misunderstood
[08:08] <`Gumby> codebrainz: he'll have to chroot to do that
[08:08] <codebrainz> maxwellian, it just fixes broken dependencies afaik
[08:08] <`Gumby> codebrainz: or copy what it gives him to his root drive
[08:08] <swordfish_> hi i have something to share open prompt and type yes
[08:09] <maxwellian> codebrainz: If it says, "Sorry, I can't do that Dave.", I say, "No problem, don't worry." and back away slowly.
[08:09] <`Gumby> why not just edit the existing xorg.conf
[08:09] <codebrainz> `Gumby, he deleted it afaik
[08:09] <`Gumby> yeah I see that now
[08:09] <`Gumby> nvidia-xconfig would be a better option I think
[08:09] <`Gumby> but, both will work
[08:09] <codebrainz> maxwellian, just give it the daily sacrificial lamb and you're cool
[08:10] <`Gumby> if X is simply the desired result
[08:10]  * maxwellian snaps his fingers, "I knew I was forgetting something!"
[08:10] <codebrainz> `Gumby, assuming access to Xorg
[08:10] <maxwellian> Alejandro89: How'd it go?
[08:10] <`Gumby> yeah, he'll need to mount the root partition
[08:10] <Alejandro89> maxwellian, codebrainz: Mmm...It didnt works.
[08:11] <codebrainz> `Gumby, i wasn't paying close attention, i though he could boot into text-mode on his main install :)
[08:11] <maxwellian> Alejandro89: What happened this time?  Same exact thing as before?
[08:11] <maxwellian> Alejandro89: Any difference is important.
[08:12] <`Gumby> he said he got nothing but a bliking cursor but could probably get there via recovery, but.. if he is already in a livecd, why not just mount his root partition and create a new xorg.conf
[08:12] <Alejandro89> maxwellian, codebrainz: Im here again with the "startx" command. Exactly the same, its get stuck in the ubuntu logo.
[08:12] <swordfish_> i need a swap partition ,but i have installed ubuntu .......so i need make from the ubuntu partition ...can any one help me
[08:12] <codebrainz> maxwellian, i think his x/gfx/config is not working so it keeps dropping back to gdm and auto-logging in again, maybe
[08:13] <Compiling> swordfish: if you have ubuntu installed you already have a swap partition
[08:13] <mik__> someone can help me to install the plugins flashplayer and java on ubuntu 10.04  64 bit ?
[08:13] <codebrainz> swordfish_, use gparted (better from the livecd)
[08:13] <^Jay2^> sta drivers cant be used with 2.6.34 :( help me please
[08:13] <Compiling> mik__: are they not in software center?
[08:13] <mik__> no
[08:13] <swordfish_> not like that
[08:13] <Compiling> well explain yourself
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> !java | mik__
[08:13] <Compiling> we dont read minds
[08:14] <`Gumby> !flash
[08:14] <maxwellian> codebrainz: Hmm...the config should be default now, shouldn't be a problem?
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> mik__:  install 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' and i think that will pull in java and some otehr parts you proberly want
[08:14] <Guest90503> hmm
[08:14] <quentin> `Gumby: and codebrainz: I did the reconfigure in the terminal. I now have a new xorg.conf and the driver says "vesa"
[08:14] <mneptok> Compiling: a swap partition is not requisite during an Ubuntu installation.
[08:14] <Compiling> sun-java6-jre and icedtea is what youre probably looking for
[08:15] <codebrainz> maxwellian, something with the X/gfx not working, Alejandro89 mentioned an X error, right?
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> quentin:  vesa is the very bottom of the line failsafe driver. :)
[08:15] <`Gumby> quentin: so you know how to mount your root partition?
[08:15] <Alejandro89> maxwellian, codebrainz: While everything works okay, the ubuntu logo appears (for 3 seconds aprox) and then Ubuntu log in. Now, the logo screens appeared and blinked one time and then gets stucked.
[08:15] <`Gumby> so/do
[08:15] <maxwellian> Alejandro89: Oh sorry, I misread your first thing about gfx.
[08:15] <codebrainz> maxwellian, Alejandro89 but X does work, so it's weird
[08:15] <maxwellian> Alejandro89: Sorry, meant to direct that to codebrainz.
[08:15] <mik__> tanks willis, i try.....
[08:15] <quentin> `Gumby: I guess. I just used sudo nautilus and went from there.
[08:16] <codebrainz> Alejandro89, the only thing i can suggest is to apt-get remove --purge gdm && apt-get install kdm
[08:16] <codebrainz> Alejandro89, it's not really a fix though
[08:16] <`Gumby> quentin: ok, so you have no problem taking the xorg.conf from the livecd and putting it in your root etc/X11/ then?
[08:16] <maxwellian> Alejandro89: Just hang on a sec, let me poke around my own config files.
[08:16] <`Gumby> quentin: edit the file and change vesa to nv
[08:17] <quentin> Dr_Willis: I tried using the nvidia driver and it wouldn't recognize my monitor.
[08:17] <RJames_> ok.. trying unetbootin to build my USB drive.... using ubuntu-10.04-netbook-i386.iso.  We'll see how this goes.
[08:17] <quentin> `Gumby: I will try nv instead of vesa
[08:17] <^Jay2^> no one here uses kernel 2.6.34 in 10.04??? :(
[08:17] <codebrainz> quentin, how did you install the drivers?
[08:18] <Guest90503> ^Jay2^:why
[08:18] <Alejandro89> maxwellian, codebrainz: I did again now: "apt-get --reinstall --purge install gdm" and it do some things. No more the error message.
[08:18] <`Gumby> quentin: good luck!!  should work no problem
[08:18] <^Jay2^> Guest90503: my broadcom sta drivers stopped working with the new kernel
[08:18] <maxwellian> Alejandro89: Ohhhh...it needed us to remove the other package before it could do a proper reinstall of gdm, maybe.
[08:19] <maxwellian> Alejandro89: Try a reboot now, see if that helped.
[08:19] <Guest90503> ^Jay2^: what is sta
[08:19] <quentin> codebrainz: I used the Hardware Drivers selection under System->Administration
[08:19] <^Jay2^> Guest90503: broadcom proprietary driver
[08:19] <quentin> `Gumby: thanks
[08:19] <Alejandro89> maxwellian, codebrainz: Ok, see you soon. I will try the sudo reboot.
[08:20] <Guest90503> ^Jay2^: try Administration-->Hardware Drivers
[08:20] <^Jay2^> it wont activate
[08:20] <^Jay2^> there's an error
[08:20] <codebrainz> quentin, i had good success with installing the drivers from nvidia, bit of a pain though
[08:20] <`Gumby> !skype
[08:20] <Guest90503> how u upgrade a kernel
[08:20] <Compiling> !icedtea
[08:20] <Compiling> o
[08:20] <gryllida> Guest90503: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:21] <Dr_Willis> Guest90503:  if theres a new version in the repos 'sudo apt-get upgrade'  or 'dist-upgrade' should insatll it
[08:21] <gryllida> I think
[08:21] <gryllida> the current one ends in 23
[08:21] <Guest90503> but that wud upgrade distro
[08:21] <^Jay2^> the current one is 2.6.32
[08:21] <gryllida> its kernel
[08:21] <gryllida> oh
[08:21] <gryllida> 32
[08:21] <Dr_Willis> Guest90503:  and what version of ubuntu are you using?
[08:21] <^Jay2^> yeah
[08:21] <Guest90503> 10.04
[08:21] <Dr_Willis> 2.6.32-23-generic\
[08:21] <^Jay2^> i am using 2.6.34 but this disabled my wifi
[08:21] <^Jay2^> lol
[08:22] <gryllida> ^Jay2^: How do I know my version?
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> Guest90503: that command will NOT upgrade you to 10.10 at this time.
[08:22] <^Jay2^> system>administration>system monitor
[08:22] <^Jay2^> then first tab
[08:22] <gryllida> Dr_Willis: I remember something like that, ending in 23, indeed.
[08:22] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis: Is there a command to do that?
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> Guest90503:  dist-upgrade i find is needed for some of the mnore critical parts of the OS. if they are 'held back'
[08:22] <prince_jammys> !version | gryllida
[08:22] <Zeu5> hi there, how do i create a launcher such that when i click on it, it runs the terminal window and navigates to a particular directory and does a "ls -la" WITHOUT closing the terminal window? i googled abit, but all i get are links telling me how to create keyboard shortcuts for terminal. that is NOT wat i want.
[08:22] <quentin> codebrainz: thanks to you too. I'm trying the rename of vesa to nv, and I am now restarting.
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> maxwellian:  to upgrade to 10.10 - thers proberly some ways to do it.. but i dont bother. :)
[08:22] <gryllida> hm
[08:23] <prince_jammys> gryllida: and ''uname -r'' for kernel
[08:23] <codebrainz> quentin, someone else suggested that, but good luck, it should work
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> Zeu5:  make a script that does it.. 3 commands, cd /whever,  ls -al , read foobar
[08:23] <Guest90503> ^Jay2^: i think u need to reinstall lucid
[08:23] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis: I mean, is there non-graphical way to upgrade the Ubuntu distro?
[08:23] <opij> im trying to understand what a build environment is. is it a setting where you can compile software? is that all it is?
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> Zeu5:  then make a launcher that does 'xterm -e yourscript'
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> maxwellian:  proberly is. but i rarely upgrade releases.
[08:23] <maxwellian> Guest90503: Gah, what?  Reinstall?
[08:23] <^Jay2^> Guest90503: i dont want to do that. lol
[08:23] <opij> !build environment > opij
[08:23] <Guest90503> how can i change my nick here...it not changing with /nick..
[08:23] <Guest90503> im on empathy
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> Guest90503:  try harder.. try a different nick. or try a different irc client. :)
[08:24] <opij> Guest1465: get another irc client
[08:24] <gryllida> Guest90503: /nick should work, what eror message do you get
[08:24] <gryllida> Guest90503: sudo apt-get install irssi
[08:24] <alteregoa> darmok and jalad at tanagra
[08:24] <gryllida> :P
[08:24] <maxwellian> hahah: Oh, much better. :P
[08:24] <hahah> ok
[08:24] <hahah> it waz not changing to hahaha
[08:24] <gryllida> hahah: yay it worked
[08:25] <maxwellian> hahah: Anyway, wireless is, in my experience, the trickiest part of Ubuntu, especially for new users.
[08:25] <hahah> ping
[08:25] <prince_jammys> pong
[08:25] <opij> gryllida: could you tell me what a build environment is
[08:25] <hahah> i think there is hahaha registered
[08:25] <RJames_> whoa
[08:25] <Alejandro89> maxwellian, codebrainz: Yeah !! It works. All I have to do is a "sudo reboot" lol haha (Its a joke, I perfectly understand all the intentions in every step). Thank you again, guys, you rock !!! Greetings from Uruguay !
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> wireless for my last 3 laptops - just 'worked' on 10.10 :) less hassles then i had in windows..
[08:25] <Zeu5> Dr_Willis: i did exactly as you said. the launcher is open as applicatin or application in terminal?
[08:25] <alteregoa> darmok and jalad at tanagra!
[08:25] <codebrainz> Alejandro89, glad to hear it
[08:25] <maxwellian> Alejandro89: Glad it worked! :)  I guess you should stay away from the media center thing for now... :)
[08:26] <gryllida> opij: like... IDE
[08:26] <gryllida> ?
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> Zeu5:  open in terminal, would skip the xterm -e step.. try them both and see how they work.
[08:26] <maxwellian> Alejandro89: Although it might be a good idea to file a bug report.
[08:26] <dugger5688> Who was it that wanted to upgrade to 10.10?
[08:26] <maxwellian> dugger5688: No one, but how do you do it, dugger5688?
[08:26] <dugger5688> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/05/how-to-upgrade-to-ubuntu-1010-maverick.html
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> Zeu5:  i tend to use the xterm -bg red -fg blue -e whatever,. all the time so i can have differnt apps start up in differnt color xterms.
[08:26] <dugger5688> But I wouldn't...
[08:26] <RJames_> after using unetbootin and trying to load ubuntu that way... now I'm getting tons of errors on the console (SQUASHFS error: unable to read page cache xxxxx).  That mean I have a bad USB drive?
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> RJames_:  or a bad iso file.
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> RJames_:  or perjhaps bad ram? that would be wweird
[08:27] <RJames_> grrr.
[08:27] <hahah> i have a doubt...if ubuntu keep giving a distro every 6months...i keep on hopping on the ditro...all the exiting programs are lost...is there a way to retain in new dist
[08:27] <abhi_nav> opij, if you are talking about ide i.e. itentegrated development environement then e.g. ecipse see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_development_environment
[08:27] <prince_jammys> Zeu5: xterm -e bash -c 'cd particular_directory && ls -la; exec bash'
[08:27] <Alejandro89> maxwellian: How can I do that?
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> hahah:  you can clone your list of installed apps.. and reisntall them
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> !clone | hahah
[08:27] <codebrainz> RJames_, I'd check the md5 of your ISO
[08:28] <RJames_> kk
[08:28] <prince_jammys> Zeu5: or whatever terminal you like to use, with its appropriate -e flag.
[08:28] <alteregoa> darmok and jalad at tanagra
[08:28] <hahah> THanks Dr_Willis will try..will it reatin my installed app in karmic to lucid
[08:28] <gryllida> alteregoa: ?
[08:28] <hahah> am gonna upgrade
[08:28] <alteregoa> his arms wide
[08:28] <hahah> *retain
[08:29] <maxwellian> hahah: It will remove things that are no longer supported.
[08:29] <gryllida> alteregoa: whose?
[08:29] <maxwellian> hahah: I believe.
[08:29] <alteregoa> darmok
[08:29] <Zeu5> prince_jammys:  thank you. you gave me a very simple solution. appreciate it.
[08:29] <maxwellian> hahah: But that's not usually a problem.
[08:29] <gryllida> alteregoa: who's darmok?
[08:29] <Zeu5> Dr_Willis: thank you
[08:29] <prince_jammys> Zeu5: welcome.
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> hahah:  it will 'reinstall' the apps you had installed befor.
[08:29] <hahah> will that download stuf
[08:30] <maxwellian> Alejandro89: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> Zeu5:  if you want xterm to stay open at a terminal priompt use that exec bash trick showed by prince_jammys , if you want it to 'close' when you hit enter  use 'read foo'
[08:30] <abhi_nav> hey while trying to install google desktop i get this error: Failed to run gdebi-gtk '--non-interactive' '/home/abhijit/Softwares/google-desktop-linux_current_amd64.deb' as user root
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> hahah:  it will REINSTALL THE APPS.. so Yes.
[08:30] <abhi_nav> any sulutino guys
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> hahah:  you are saving a LIST of what you had installed...
[08:31] <abhi_nav> ohhhh osryy soryy i got it sorry
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> abhi_nav:  try 'sudo gdebi /home/abhijit/Softwares/google-desktop-linux_current_amd64.deb'
[08:31] <Alejandro89> maxwellian: Ok, I wiil do it.
[08:31] <Alejandro89> maxwellian, codebrainz: Thanks again, what you do is very useful. Good bye !
[08:31] <alteregoa> shaka when the walls fell
[08:31] <maxwellian> Alejandro89: Thanks, bye!
[08:31] <quentin> I am back. My monitor is now recognized but I can't change the resolution. much of the interface is off screen so I'll probably have to change the res
[08:31] <hahah> is there a way to convert 32bit iso to 64bit iso...ie x64 version from x32
[08:31] <codebrainz> quentin, are you using the proprietary drivers now?
[08:31] <maxwellian> Alejandro89: Actually, now that you know how to fix it, you should try the media thing again.
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> hahah:  No. You dont convert 32bit to 64 or visa versa
[08:32] <maxwellian> Alejandro89: To see if it happens again.
[08:32] <RJames_> ok.. this is embarrasing, but I don't know where to find the md5 value for my iso.  Is it inside the ISO itself?  I don't see it on the download page.
[08:32] <maxwellian> Alejandro89: No point filing a bug if it was not really a bug, but something that just got goofed when you installed the media thing.
[08:32] <codebrainz> maxwellian, or just use MythTV :)
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> RJames_:  theres a md5 file on the servers somewhere with a list of them all.
[08:32] <alteregoa> darmok and jalad at tanagra
[08:32] <hahah> no i mean ...i have lucid desktop x32 iso file...is there any trick to change it to x6
[08:32] <RJames_> hmm
[08:32] <Dargon> when i set up a virtual server in apache, its setting that document root for all the servers, input?
[08:33] <maxwellian> codebrainz: Heh, or that. :)  As far as gadgets and hooking up doohickeys goes, I'm clueless.
[08:33] <Sego> Rjames: don't be embarresed, we are learning by watching too :)
[08:33] <codebrainz> RJames_, paste the link where you downloaded the iso and we'll find you the md5 if it's there
[08:33]  * Petskull learns by watching porn
[08:33] <Alejandro89> maxwellian: But, the xmbc works perfectly. I have installed it some weeks ago. Today, I see the "xbmc live package" and tried to install it. Then, the bug appeared.
[08:34] <quentin> codebrainz: I am using the nv which I assume is nvidia. Only thing is, when I go to the nvidia config tool It tells me I don't appear to be using the nvidia-x-driver
[08:34] <hahah> and 32bit lucid shows only 2.9gb ram :(
[08:34] <RJames_> http://www.ubuntu.com/netbook/get-ubuntu/download
[08:34] <maxwellian> Alejandro89: Right, so before you submit a bug, I would try the process again.
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> hahah:  and how much ram do you have exactly?
[08:34] <codebrainz> quentin, i think you're using the open source one
[08:34] <Dargon> anyone able to help me with an apache problem?
[08:34] <`Gumby> quentin: you are using the nv driver which is the open source driver, not the nvidia binary driver
[08:34] <prince_jammys> quentin: nv is an open source driver. you want the one called 'nvidia'
[08:34] <hahah> 4gb
[08:34] <maxwellian> Alejandro89: The first thing the developers are going to try to do is reproduce it, and if it can't be reproduced, it's not going to get much attention.
[08:35] <maxwellian> Dargon: How did you install apache?
[08:35] <Dargon> apt-get
[08:35] <`Gumby> quentin: I am willing to guess that the nvidia driver isnt recognizing the EDID of your monitor and X isnt starting properly
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> hahah:  with exactly 4 gb. there is some lost due to hardware/video/issues. but  1.1 gb seems a little high - unless your video card is taking a lot of it
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> hahah:  try a 64bit live cd. and see what it 'sees'
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> hahah:  if you ah ce a 64bit capable cpu. I would suggest using 64bit anyway
[08:35] <hahah> i hear 32bit cannot address more than 3gb
[08:35] <alteregoa> darmok and jalad at tanagra!
[08:36] <Dargon> maxwellian, apt-get install apache-mpm-prefork
[08:36] <maxwellian> Dargon: Have you set up a site, i.e., you have something in sites-enabled?
[08:36] <quentin> `Gumby: yes. it has recognized it before, but I have installed lucid lynx  and now it doesn't
[08:36] <hahah> then can i install 32bit deb packages
[08:36] <RJames_> looks like when I hit the download button.. it actually redirects to a random mirror
[08:36] <Dargon> maxwellian, no, im using apache2.conf for everything
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> hahah:  32bit has max ram limitations - yes. but its 4gb limit I think. and there are other things to watch out for.
[08:36] <iflema> RJames_ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> hahah:  ive rarely see things taht are '32bit' only these days.
[08:37] <RJames_> cool! thanks iflema.
[08:37] <Dargon> maxwellian, is that my problem?
[08:37] <maxwellian> Dargon: I'm sure there's a good reason to have config files split up, but I guess it's your call. :)
[08:37] <nomad77> hahah: install the server kernel maybe
[08:37] <maxwellian> Dargon: Anyway, you have a DocRoot?
[08:37] <Dargon> yes
[08:37] <codebrainz> iflema, good find :)
[08:37] <Dargon> maxwellian, yes
[08:37] <Alejandro89> maxwellian: Ok, I will re do it. It will reboot the computer by force like the last time. But I will write down the process to solve it. Bye !
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> 64bit kernel/system has better performacen then a 32bit system + pae kernel. from what ive read.
[08:38] <maxwellian> Alejandro89: Thanks, that's great!  Later!
[08:38] <quentin> codebrainz, prince_jammys: installing the proprietary drivers is what got me here with no monitor recognition. now with the open source one my resolution is so huge a good portion of interface is off screen.
[08:38] <maxwellian> Dargon: Okay, so what's your question?  You can set up your cgi-bin wherever you want, but it's usually just below the DocRoot.
[08:38] <hahah> which filesystem is better ext3 or ext4
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> hahah:  whjen in doubt. use the defaults..
[08:39] <gryllida> ext4
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> hahah:  and ext4 is the default now
[08:39] <gryllida> ext4 is newer version
[08:39] <prince_jammys> !resolution | quentin
[08:39] <hahah> so i have to use a / of ext4
[08:39] <hahah> for lucid
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> hahah:  you dont HAVE to.. but its the default.
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> hahah:  do you ahve a reason to use ext3 ?
[08:39] <hahah> i dont have etx3
[08:40] <hahah> i dont have ext4
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> hahah:  you are not making any sence.
[08:40] <hahah> i have to create in the partitioner
[08:40] <maxwellian> Is anyone else seeing a '?' in ubottu's factoid up there?
[08:40] <hahah> sry
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> hahah:  so make a partition, tell it to be ext4
[08:40] <nomad77> quentin: if all else fails,try this as a last resort  http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/guerrilla-tactics-force-screen-mode-ubuntu
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> hahah:  or let it auto partition and not worry about it
[08:40] <ZykoticK9> maxwell_, gdm kdm
[08:40] <hahah> i have ext3 which has karmic
[08:40] <Dargon> maxwellian, the question is, www.aftermathzone.com goes to /home/amz/public_html and i want images.aftermathzone.com to go to ~/public_html/images, but when i set the virtual server, it pushes the www. to the images directory also
[08:40] <gryllida> maxwellian: indeed I do see that question maek
[08:40] <iflema> RJames_ codebrainz there should also be an md5sum hash in the directory the iso came from
[08:40] <shiba> boo
[08:40] <prince_jammys> maxwellian: the "smart quotes" may be doing that in your terminal/client
[08:41] <hahah> i have to make it ext4
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> hahah:  so you are eraseing the old ubuntu?
[08:41] <gryllida> mark*
[08:41] <hahah> ya
[08:41] <maxwellian> ZykoticK9: Oh, okay, but that's kind of confusing to a new user...?
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> hahah:   then  tell it to delete the partition, remake it,. tell it to be ext4 or somtjhing like that.
[08:41] <hahah> k
[08:41] <prince_jammys> maxwellian: ah, no, sorry, you meant the ?dm. that's intentional
[08:41] <maxwellian> prince_jammys: I get the smart quotes, but I think ZykoticK9 has it right, that that's supposed to be replaced by a 'g' or a 'k' depending on your environment.
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> hahah:  or delete all the partitions so you have a lot of unallocated space.. restart the insatller (or use the back button) and  let it auto-partition the unallocated space
[08:42] <codebrainz> iflema, heh, good luck finding the dir with these fancy ubuntu webpages :)
[08:42] <quentin> ubuttu: oh crap. I was hoping I wouldn't have to do all that. That's what I went throught before karmic. with karmic the nvidia driver detected my monitor fine. I could even edit my resolution in the regular "Monitor" editor
[08:42] <Petskull> heh- wow, that's just a *mine* for newbies!
[08:42] <maxwellian> Petskull: Right?
[08:42] <Petskull> it's like it's intentional
[08:42] <gryllida> Hmm. I had 2 kernel updates, now have 3 lines in Grub -- original, first updated, second updated. Is this ok?
[08:42] <prince_jammys> maxwellian:  yeah, it's a glob that assumes that gdm/kdm/xdm/single_letter_dm is installed and at /etc/init.d
[08:42] <hahah> gryllida: use # to hide unwanted
[08:43] <codebrainz> gryllida, not only is it ok, it's really useful :)
[08:43] <iflema> codebrainz like this one?       http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/     ;)
[08:43]  * Petskull writes a system-wipe utility named '?dm'
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> gryllida:  it dosent hurt to have some backup kernels.
[08:43] <maxwellian> prince_jammys: Oh, duh...that will actually work in the shell.
[08:43] <Petskull> "It's safe, man- the BOT said so!"
[08:43] <Dargon> maxwellian, using sites-enabled i get apache2: Syntax error on line 238 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default: No such file or directory
[08:43] <codebrainz> iflema, heh, that's where i was heading when you posted the other link :)
[08:43] <maxwellian> prince_jammys: I've never used the question mark glob, so it freaked me out. :)
[08:43] <Jordan_U> Petskull: Never trust robots.
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> maxwellian:  ? = regular expression for a single character. :)  ?dm can match gdm or kdm. and cause some issues  :)
[08:44] <prince_jammys> maxwellian: it won't restart X if you don't have a graphical login, though :)
[08:44] <ZykoticK9> maxwellian, prince_jammys technically even the /etc/init.d part is outdated.  "sudo service ?dm restart"
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> maxwellian:  that factoid has had that annoyance for ages. :)
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> ZykoticK9:  and if you have KDM and GDM both installed.. its even more wrong. :)
[08:44] <RJames_> well, the ISO checksum passed
[08:44] <Jordan_U> ZykoticK9: Except the '?dm' won't work in that context.
[08:44] <alteregoa> Dr_Willis: are you afraid of megaman?
[08:44] <codebrainz> Dargon, what does 'ls /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default' say?
[08:44] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, good point!
[08:44] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis: Oh man, what would it do then??
[08:44] <hahah> what programming language is used to write linux kernel ,gnome,and the apps?is it only c++
[08:45] <hahah> wt compiler used
[08:45] <maxwellian> hahah: C, gcc
[08:45] <codebrainz> hahah, c, gcc
[08:45] <RJames_> so Either that distro just doesn't work for my netbook, or my netbook has hardware issues.. or my usb drive does... or .. or ..oorrr  <BOOM>
[08:45] <im63kg> hahah: c
[08:45] <codebrainz> heh
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> maxwellian:  it just failed totally with some odd message last i tried it.. but the /etc/init.d/XXX part is wrong with 10.04 also..
[08:45] <ZykoticK9> Jordan_U, does using "?" actually work with init.d
[08:45]  * maxwellian smirks at codebrainz
[08:45] <hahah> no oops?
[08:45] <prince_jammys> ZykoticK9: it's just a path to a file, so yeah. it's a glob.
[08:45] <hahah> i mean c++
[08:45] <codebrainz> maxwellian, there is some GAS assembly in there i'm sure
[08:45] <Dargon> maxwellian
[08:45] <Dargon> root@li131-91:~# ls /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
[08:45] <Dargon> /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
[08:45] <Dargon> root@li131-91:~#
[08:45] <FloodBot1> Dargon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:45] <ZykoticK9> prince_jammys, i see what you mean :)
[08:46] <maxwellian> Dargon: Sorry, should have warned you.
[08:46] <maxwellian> Dargon: Can you paste the output like the bot said?
[08:46] <Dargon> yeah
[08:46] <prince_jammys> ZykoticK9: the service version works only if your present directory happens to be /etc/init.d ;)
[08:46] <Jordan_U> ZykoticK9: Yes, because /etc/init.d/gdm is a file, and /etc/init.d/?dm is a shell glob that will match that file.
[08:46] <hahah> if suppose i want to edit the source code of calculator app...how do i do that....i installed only binary file from SPM
[08:47] <codebrainz> Dargon, what is the output of 'ls /etc/apache2/sites-available'
[08:47] <Dargon> maxwellian, http://paste.ubuntu.com/459038/
[08:47] <ZykoticK9> prince_jammys, Jordan_U thanks guys - "I'm on the trolley now"
[08:47] <Jordan_U> ZykoticK9: You're welcome.
[08:47] <maxwellian> hahah: Well you start by doing something like 'apt-get source calculator'
[08:47] <hahah> its gcalctool
[08:47] <maxwellian> hahah: Whatever. ;)
[08:47] <codebrainz> hahah, apt-get build-dep gcalctool && apt-get source gcalctool
[08:48] <Dargon> codebrainz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/459040/
[08:48] <hahah> and wer will the source code save
[08:48] <maxwellian> hahah: But how to actually make a patch, and apply it, and repackage it?  I've never figured that out. :P
[08:48] <codebrainz> Dargon, not too familiar with webmin.  what is the output of 'ls -l /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/'
[08:48] <Jordan_U> hahah: Note however than you do *not* want to run apt-get source as root, and it will download the source to your current directory.
[08:48] <maxwellian> hahah: If you do, please walk me through it.
[08:49] <codebrainz> Jordan_U, good point
[08:49] <maxwellian> hahah: In other words, don't run those through sudo.
[08:49] <maxwellian> hahah: Just to be crystal clear. :)
[08:50] <hahah> ya
[08:50] <hahah> am on ubuntu user
[08:50] <Dargon> codebrainz, webmin doesnt do much for the apache config except make me not have to write it manualkly, http://paste.ubuntu.com/459041/
[08:50] <maxwellian> Man, I started #mame for that guy earlier, and I'm still the only one in there... :P
[08:51] <codebrainz> Dargon, type this:  sudo ln -sv /etc/apache2/sites-available/webmin.1278214817.conf /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
[08:51] <Jordan_U> maxwellian: If you are interested in fixing a bug for the first time, maybe you could give feedback on how discoverable the process is as explained here: http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=691
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> hahah:  why are you using  .spm anyway? ubuntu/apt has its own system for getting a programs source
[08:52] <RJames_> since the ISO checksum passed, I'm going to download the previous netbook version (9.10) and see if I have any luck with that
[08:52] <codebrainz> Dargon, then sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[08:52] <Dargon> done
[08:52] <hahah> i got 3files
[08:52] <maxwellian> Jordan_U: I would LOVE to fix a bug, I've always wanted to, but I've never figured it out, even with the docs. :\
[08:52] <hahah> .tar
[08:52] <maxwellian> Jordan_U: Nothing specific, I just want to fix SOMETHING. :)
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> !apt | hahah
[08:52] <hahah> .tar,gz sry
[08:52] <RJames_> I think I'll download the desktop iso as well.  And see if I can boot off my USB with that on my other laptop and desktop.. to test out my USB drive
[08:52] <RJames_> fun fun fun
[08:52] <codebrainz> maxwellian, there's plenty of bugs out there, which language do you like?
[08:52] <^Jay2^> !softwaresources
[08:53] <^Jay2^> !sources
[08:53] <Zelozelos> huh, thats strange, i deleted some files from my desktop and now theres some dotted boxed outlines where the icons were
[08:53] <Dargon> codebrainz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/459043/
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> hahah:  you can get apt-get to install all the needed dev files to compule somthing with ' sudo apt-get build-dep PACKAGENAME'  then you use other commands to 'grab' the source deb and set the thing up so you can edit/rebuild & compile  the source/deb
[08:54] <Pr0jectRec0n> hey all, I have a bash script like this : http://pastebin.com/6UysYN6z . All I need is When i want to exec my gnome-terminal - I wnt to execute it with a starting 'pwd' that I'll mention
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> RJames_:  what iso were you using?
[08:54] <maxwellian> codebrainz: I've got varying levels of experience in C, Perl, Java, and Python.
[08:54] <maxwellian> codebrainz: Oh, and some C++.
[08:54] <Pr0jectRec0n> Is there a setting for gnome-terminal that can do it? I'm just too lazy to go thru the man pages..
[08:54] <codebrainz> Dargon, ok, first do this   sudo rm /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
[08:54] <codebrainz> Dargon, and then try that ln -sv command again
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> RJames_:  the server iso does Not work from USB - and im not sure ablut the alternative isntaller iso.
[08:55] <RJames_> it was ubuntu-10.04-netbook-i386.iso
[08:55] <maxwellian> codebrainz: It's all the packaging voodoo that has eluded me.
[08:55] <quentin> how do I reload X without restarting  my computer?
[08:55] <prince_jammys> Pr0jectRec0n: cd there before the gnome-terminal command.
[08:55] <codebrainz> maxwellian, debian packaging?
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> RJames_:  ok. that should of worked from USB. vie used that befor.
[08:55] <Zelozelos> Pr0jectRec0n, thats pretty cool, never though of doin smthin like that
[08:55] <Jordan_U> maxwellian: Pick a bug and try to fix it. Even if you hit a dead end, just the act of trying (and documenting how it went as explained in the blog post) will benefit Ubuntu.
[08:55] <hahah> Dr_Willis: now the source code shud be compiled by gcc?
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> RJames_:  with a little work - you can set up grub2 ona  flash drive and boot the iso files directly also.
[08:55] <zhanglujie> 加入
[08:55] <maxwellian> Jordan_U: There's probably a list of easy bugs out there?
[08:56] <codebrainz> quentin, /etc/init.d/gdm restart  might do it
[08:56] <RJames_> I might have to go that route
[08:56] <Pr0jectRec0n> Zelozelos, :) - It was one my requests at the forums : this - >http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=151379
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> hahah:  now you may want to read up on compiling and apt-get some.  Im not clear on what you are doing and have done.
[08:56] <Lalitha> How do i reinstall the panels ?
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> !resetpanel | Lalitha
[08:56] <hahah> no i am not compiling
[08:56] <hahah> i jus wanna understand
[08:56] <asianmale> maxwellian: python sucks the fat one
[08:56] <hahah> wat is package
[08:56] <dreamer000> tha
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> hahah:  then you may want to start with teh apt-get manual given above
[08:57] <maxwellian> asianmale: Awwww, still your rosy self I see.
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> !apt-get | hahah
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> hahah:  and the ubuntu book
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> !manual | hahah
[08:57] <hahah> k
[08:57] <codebrainz> maxwellian, don't believe the slander!  :)
[08:57] <RJames_> I had high hopes when I plopped my USB drive in there and got the gui to come up with the login prompt... if only it had asked me for a user/password when it was building the flash drive.  Did it prompt you while building the flash drive?
[08:57] <quentin> codebrainz: I am getting this when I use /etc/init.d/gdm restart: Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8)
[08:57] <quentin> utility, e.g. service gdm restart
[08:57] <quentin> Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an
[08:57] <quentin> Upstart job, you may also use the restart(8) utility, e.g. restart gdm
[08:57] <Dargon> codebrainz that simlink went to the images subdomain config, i need the 000-default to be the www. config
[08:57] <FloodBot1> quentin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:57] <maxwellian> codebrainz: I love Python, don't worry...I'm not swayed, however convincing asianmale is... :P
[08:58] <asianmale> codebrainz: it doesn't even have proper anonymous functions, it has this ridiculous 'self' parameter that shows OO's tacked on roots, it's woefully underengineered, anything sophisticated in python becomes a 'symbol table hack'.
[08:58] <codebrainz> quentin, they changed stuff recently, do what that says
[08:58] <Jordan_U> RJames_: It's not supposed to boot to a login prompt (if you used something like unetbootin).
[08:58] <iflema> RJames_ does ubuntu work live (livecd)? make the usb using ubuntus usb creator. Also, not sure about 9.10, 10.10 ya change between desktop, netbook, unity and so on at the login screen.... there all basically the same version.... no need to download duplicate iso(s)
[08:59] <maxwellian> asianmale: Well at least you said something with substance, but we're not going to start a Python conversation here.
[08:59] <iflema> RJames_ just get the netbook version(s)
[08:59] <dreamer000> ubuntu randomly crashes right?
[08:59] <prince_jammys> heh
[08:59] <maxwellian> dreamer000: Uhhhh...hopefully not? :)
[09:00] <maxwellian> dreamer000: At least, it wasn't designed to do that, no. :)
[09:00] <quentin> codebrainz: I only used "restart gdm" and got: Warning: Fake initctl called, doing nothing.
[09:00] <codebrainz> asianmale, bs.  define "proper anonymous functions" (like lambda?)  and I've no idea what the rest of that was about, so?
[09:01] <codebrainz> quentin, I'm not sure with upstart
[09:01] <zhanglujie> 有中国的朋友吗
[09:01] <hacked_kernel> how to convert .mts to .mov,  do you know a software that can do it??
[09:01] <prince_jammys> !cn
[09:01] <dreamer000> just trying to install@laptop 9.10 :-)
[09:01] <Pr0jectRec0n> also, guys, regarding http://pastebin.com/6UysYN6z, what if I want to associate running this bash script to a keyboard shortcut ? Can I do it using System > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts?
[09:01] <codebrainz> quentin, i just went into a console, stopped gdm, wget'd the sode, compiled, and rebooted, iirc
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> hacked_kernel:  if its a video file of some kind. ffmpeg, and/or mencoder can proberly do it.
[09:02] <iflema> RJames_ 10.04 not 10.10....
[09:02] <RJames_> That is what I tried.  I followed the little how-to on the ubuntu download page for netbook.  step 1: download the 10.04-netbook iso.  step 2: use the universal USB installer to get the iso on the flash drave. step 3: pop the drive in your netbook and boot from it.  My problem is after it loads ubuntu from the flash drive.. ubuntu loads and gui login appears, only I never setup a user/pass so I can't get in. (sad face)
[09:02] <Dr_Willis> RJames_:  and 'ubuntu' ''  dont work
[09:02] <RJames_> nope it didn't
[09:02] <Dr_Willis> RJames_:  tried tjat flash drive on any other machines?
[09:03] <maxwellian> dreamer000: You're trying to install 9.10 on your laptop?
[09:03] <hacked_kernel> Dr_Willis, when using ffmpeg should i split audio and video then mix them together?  because i tried to do it but i think i have the wrong parameters
[09:03] <iflema> RJames_ theres two options for the livecd 10.04 1. install 2. try There is no login prompt.
[09:03] <dreamer000> yes it doesn't do the job with acpi=off
[09:03] <Dr_Willis> hacked_kernel:  theres so many options to those programs..   i wouldent be suprised at people using the wrong paramaters.
[09:03] <iflema> RJames_ unless you log out that is
[09:03] <Dr_Willis> RJames_:  so what OS is on the macnhine now?
[09:03] <dreamer000> debian does
[09:04] <RJames_> well tell that to my netbook. :P  the menu came up.  I selected try it out.  First thing I got was a login.
[09:04] <nandonachi> i have installed the latest ubuntu and runing it in vmware..i installed gcc but the arrow keys do not work , please help :(
[09:04] <nandonachi> instead  i get ^A etc...
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> RJames_:  you do have ubuntu 10.04 on some machine ? You could try making a grub2 boot flash drive. that boots the iso file.
[09:04] <RJames_> after trying numerous user/pass combos.. I tried the install option at the menu.  doesn't do anything different.
[09:04] <Pr0jectRec0n> @all, nevermind, figured it out...
[09:04] <RJames_> nope.. This was going to be my first ubuntu machine.
[09:04] <codebrainz> nandonachi, in text-mode or in the GUI/X environment?
[09:04] <maxwellian> dreamer000: Sorry, what's your question?
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> RJames_:   It does sound like some odd hardware issue with that flash drive,
[09:05] <RJames_> I think I'll see what happens when I put it in a different machine.
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> RJames_:  or some memory issue. Try other machines.  Ive had odd machines that dont like some flash drives.
[09:05] <dreamer000> why does it work everywhere else? :-)
[09:05] <RJames_> but ya.. I think after using unetbootin to try and build the drive.. and saw all those weird error messages on console.
[09:05] <Dargon> codebrainz, i redownloaded the original 000-default file and made it do what i need, same problem with the virtual host
[09:05] <RJames_> I think you are right.. it's the usb drive maybe.
[09:06] <codebrainz> Dargon, at this point I'd look for the #apache channel :)
[09:06] <nandonachi> codebrainz : in the gui mode
[09:06] <prince_jammys> #httpd
[09:06] <dreamer000> I like ubuntu because of upgrade policiy :-)
[09:06] <Jordan_U> Dr_Willis: In case you're interested, grub2's native shell scripting is not at the point where you can setup auto detection of isos at boot (creating a menu entry for each iso). It's been possible for a while with lua, but Debian/Ubuntu don't build grub2 with lua support.
[09:06] <nandonachi> im not a very experienced linux user...
[09:06] <Jordan_U> Dr_Willis: s/not/now/
[09:06] <codebrainz> nandonachi, where do you see the weird codes when you press the arrow?
[09:06] <maxwellian> dreamer000: Okay, so in a complete sentence...When you turn on ACPI, Ubuntu crashes on you "randomly"?
[09:07] <maxwellian> dreamer000: Just trying to piece it together. :)
[09:07] <prince_jammys> you are a sport
[09:07] <nandonachi> codebrainz, sorry i was incorrect , the problem happens in vi editor :P
[09:08] <codebrainz> nandonachi, totally different.  vi is like a rubix cube to me, I don't think I'll ever solve it
[09:08] <prince_jammys> nandonachi: use vim.
[09:08] <dreamer000> as I explained: good media, cleaned cd-drive, no hope, just random. Have to investigate further. Except pulseaudio worrking on random desktops, except intel graphics.
[09:09] <codebrainz> nandonachi, or use nano if you're not a masochist
[09:09] <prince_jammys> meh
[09:10] <codebrainz> prince_jammys, i won't go there anymore :)
[09:10] <Jordan_U> codebrainz: vimtutor is a very good tutorial. Once you've been taught how to solve a rubix cube it's not that hard :)
[09:10] <nandonachi> codebrainz : lol , okay
[09:10] <prince_jammys> codebrainz: thanks
[09:10] <prince_jammys> nandonachi: there's always good old hjkl, or vim-full or whatever the package is called.
[09:10] <codebrainz> Jordan_U, don't wanna start a thing.  i get along fine with my text/code editors :)
[09:11] <nandonachi> prince_jammys: but there is no such issue with ubuntu 8.10
[09:11] <prince_jammys> mm
[09:11] <maxwellian> dreamer000: Sorry, it's almost certainly my fault, but I don't understand what you're talking about. :P  If you stick around, hopefully someone smarter than me will be able to help!
[09:11] <nandonachi> prince_jammys: the vi works fine in ubuntu 8.10
[09:12] <prince_jammys> nandonachi: arrow keys work OK otherwise in your terminal??
[09:12] <nandonachi> prince_jammys : yes..
[09:12] <codebrainz> nandonachi, is it ignoring you're arrow keys because you're not in the correct "mode" or whatever?
[09:12] <asianmale> codebrainz: python sucks so bad
[09:12] <prince_jammys> no, it's seeing them as cntrl-A and such.
[09:12] <nandonachi> codebrainz: i use the simple insert mode and editing mode nothing else :p
[09:12] <codebrainz> asianmale, if you want to discuss it, I'm on #python right now :)
[09:13] <prince_jammys> home court advantage
[09:13] <maxwellian> codebrainz: Sweet, showdown. :)
[09:13] <codebrainz> prince_jammys, much more knowledgeable people than me :)
[09:13]  * maxwellian dodges the tumbleweed blowing across the dusty main street.
[09:13]  * prince_jammys just jokes about.
[09:14]  * Petskull robs the pine city stage
[09:14] <codebrainz> I really like python, but i can only compare it to the 5 or 6 other languages i use
[09:14] <Petskull> hot4you?
[09:14] <prince_jammys> nandonachi: well, i can't remember the solution to this, though i've witnessed it. is only vim-tiny installed?
[09:14] <phawx> anyone familiar with mencoder?
[09:14] <prince_jammys> !anyone
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> phawx:  i know it has a lot of docs at its homepage and a faq thats very good. and a good forum :)
[09:15] <nandonachi> prince:jammys : the default package which i think is vim tiny
[09:15] <maxwellian> Oh ubottu, are you always so direct?
[09:15] <Petskull> does anyone here ask questions openly?
[09:15] <prince_jammys> nandonachi: try vim-full
[09:15] <Dargon> codebrainz, i got the virtual servers working, wanna tackle making my php mail directive work?
[09:15] <codebrainz> Petskull, what is the meaning of life?
[09:15] <Petskull> 42
[09:15] <nandonachi> prince_jammys: hmm
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> nandonachi:  the default vim is 'vim tiny' - the normal vim package has better support and features. works with the arrow keys also
[09:16] <prince_jammys> nandonachi: or not :)
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> !info vim
[09:16] <slow-motion> hi
[09:16] <codebrainz> Dargon, nope.  check the php channel maybe
[09:16] <prince_jammys> nandonachi: now you have to try it
[09:16] <maxwellian> If you're trying to use arrow keys, don't use vim.
[09:16] <dreamer000> I expect it to be a real acpi/bios issue i should have mentioned years ago... Something seams to go wrong autoconf my hardware
[09:16] <maxwellian> You're defeating the purpose, just use Nano.
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> arrow keys work fine with the normal 'vim' its the 'vim-tiny' that has  them missing.
[09:17] <dreamer000> kanotix/lenny did do the job
[09:17] <nandonachi> prince_jammys: how can i install the full vim packaeg
[09:17] <prince_jammys> nandonachi: install vim-full
[09:17] <prince_jammys> or vim
[09:17] <codebrainz> ewww
[09:17] <codebrainz> sorry
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> prince_jammys:  its just vim - now in 10.04 :) no -full that i can see
[09:17] <prince_jammys> nandonachi: ^^
[09:18] <nandonachi> k
[09:18] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis: They may work fine, but my point is that if you're using arrow keys, you are probably not using vim properly anyway.  Might as well use something simpler like nano.
[09:18] <prince_jammys> don't listen to these nanoers
[09:18] <prince_jammys> nannys
[09:18] <codebrainz> hehehe
[09:18] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis: Er, not properly.
[09:18] <nandonachi> thanks a lot everyone
[09:18] <nandonachi> :D
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> maxwellian:  i find nano basically useelss.. and i dont find that using the arrow keys matter much. :)
[09:19] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis: Nano has all the features that someone using arrow keys with vim would be using. :P
[09:19] <codebrainz> prince_jammys, my fav text-mode editor was msedit :) (or maybe the borland legacy ide)
[09:19] <prince_jammys> maxwellian: you're editor-profiling him!
[09:20] <Dr_Willis> maxwellian:  ive had to explain way to many people what ^-Q means.. i dont reccomend nano to anyone
[09:20] <prince_jammys> maybe he/she/it uses arrow keys plus a bunch of other vim stuffs.
[09:20] <codebrainz> it's  nice that 10.04 has the nano highlighting on by default!
[09:20] <maxwellian> prince_jammys: You bet I am!  This country used to be full of good, vi-loving citizens!
[09:20] <Dr_Willis> There was some dos edit clone i saw ages ago.. but cant recall where is aw it it. cant find it int he repos either.
[09:20] <Dr_Willis> codebrainz:  now if it only had a startup message that ^ =  the control key. :)
[09:20] <bkerensa> anyone wanna help me make sendmail work?
[09:20] <yessir_turan> Hello, my evince-thumbnailer is taking 100% cpu.. restarts every time I do a killall -9. any suggestions..
[09:21] <prince_jammys> stop -9ing
[09:21] <mneptok> Dr_Willis: vim is not a tool for the novice user, though. a simpler editor is a better idea.
[09:22] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis: Oh, but all the newbies just type :q without even thinking about it... :P
[09:22] <bkerensa> sendmail isnt sending any mail using the php mail function any suggestions? I have checked logs and made sure the php.ini is configured properly?
[09:22] <dreamer000> vim could be a tool also for.
[09:22] <prince_jammys> the questioner explicitly asked for vim; 'twasn't pushing upon him/her
[09:22] <codebrainz> I've been coding for some years now, all i need is a box to type in with a save function
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> maxwellian:  i never said to suggest vim for them.
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> maxwellian:  ive said for years that they need somthing better then nano.
[09:23] <mneptok> "ne" is probably the best editor for someone new to the *nix command line
[09:23] <codebrainz> Dr_Willis, yeah, nano is crude
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> mneptok:  yea. i cant find that Dos edit one - it was in some disrto.. but ive looked and looked.. :)
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> mcedit isent too hard to use either. but  its not totally clear that one uses the 'F keys' to do the menus
[09:23] <mneptok> Dr_Willis: try ne. it's what my 75 year old father uses. :)
[09:23] <Taev> hey the new version of firefox blows, how do I get a non sucky version?
[09:24] <Taev> can I get synaptic to roll it back?
[09:24] <maxwellian> Taev: Ha. :)
[09:24] <Taev> its crashing repeatedly
[09:24] <prince_jammys> details ....
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> Taev:  odd.. its not crashed once on me.
[09:24] <Taev> Ive got Firefox 3.6.6.
[09:24] <Taev> this is the 10th crash today
[09:24] <Taev> its crashed over and over
[09:24] <prince_jammys> what causes the crash?
[09:25] <prince_jammys> *triggers
[09:25] <Taev> nothing, like just now I opened cnn
[09:25] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis: I was introduced to Unix by an old-timer, I learned vi, no ifs ands or buts.  I don't know anything about Nano, so you're probably right about needing a better newbie editor.  I just think a newbie editor is a good thing.
[09:25] <Dr_Willis> mneptok:  ne is very close to what i was thinking of.. I would have to say it would be a better editor then Nano.
[09:25] <mneptok> maxwellian: ne
[09:25] <Taev> before that, i started it up with a blank homepage and it crashed
[09:26] <mneptok> Dr_Willis: i use nano due to years and years of pine usage.
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> maxwellian:  yea. ne is definatly easier for betinners.
[09:26] <prince_jammys> Taev: ok, now you have a better irc question :)
[09:26] <gryllida> Taev: http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Firefox+crashes#Getting_help_with_your_crash ; http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Firefox+crashes+when+you+open+it#Getting_your_crash_report -- please fetch a crash id and paste it here
[09:26] <dreamer000> Taev what plugin, maybe?
[09:26] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis, mneptok: I'll have to look into that, could be a good recommendation.
[09:27] <Crucible> Looking for help on an issue, had a 10.4 desktop running and encrypted two sata drives with the integrated disk manager, the HD running the desktop gave out and now I'm trying to figure out how to mount the 2 drives in my ubuntu server 10.4. Any help is greatly appreciated!
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> ne - needs to put the info about hiting 'escape escape' in the title to access the menus. the editor i saw. I thouight had a menu bar up there with a message like that.. but ne is very close to whats needed
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> at least the ne startup screen gives info on ^ = ctrl and so forth
[09:27] <Taev> theres nothing in .mozilla/crash reports
[09:27] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis: Yeah, that's probably useful. :)
[09:27] <Taev> installtime2 and userid
[09:27] <Taev> no "submitted" folder
[09:28] <Taev> how can it be a plugin causing it to crash, when it crashes on my homepage which is a blank page
[09:28] <maxwellian> mneptok: Nano is similar to pine in the interface?  (Because of said old-timer I grew up with mutt.)
[09:28] <Dr_Willis> !brainstorm
[09:28] <Dr_Willis> do a brainstorm to replace nano with ne :)
[09:28] <gryllida> Taev: Unable to get crash ID?
[09:29] <Taev> there is no crash ID
[09:29] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis: Did you start it already?
[09:29] <mneptok> maxwellian: pico was the default pine editor. nano is a pico clone under a Free license.
[09:29] <Taev> /home/djs/.mozilla/firefox/Crash Reports
[09:29] <gryllida> Taev: run this in Terminal after completely closing Firefox: firefox -safe-mode
[09:29] <Taev> theres 2 files
[09:29] <maxwellian> mneptok: Ah, thanks.
[09:29] <Taev> InstallTime2, and UserID
[09:29] <dreamer000> Taev:libraries like xul or something like that?
[09:29] <Dr_Willis> maxwellian:  not yet. :)  web is slow for me right now
[09:29] <alasca> I'm confused. In chromium adobe flash works without a problem but in firefox it doesn't....why?
[09:29] <codebrainz> for the 1% of the time i use a text-mode editor, nano is fine.  otherwise i just use geany
[09:29] <Dr_Willis> maxwellian:  checking out iother editors also.
[09:29] <Dr_Willis> codebrainz:  yea. geany is what i use 90% of the time on X/gui
[09:29] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis: You can IRC okay?  Just use lynx. ;)
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> maxwellian:  i got other stuff downloading. so im laggy.. :)
[09:30] <Taev> ahaha
[09:30] <codebrainz> Dr_Willis, can't go wrong with Geany!  (Even on windows)
[09:30] <Taev> it crashed on safe mode
[09:30] <Taev> soon as i loaded a page
[09:30] <mneptok> maxwellian: and no *nix "old-timer" started with Mutt. Mutt's first release was in the mid-1990s, IIRC. ;)
[09:30] <maxwellian> mneptok: No one said he STARTED with mutt... ;)
[09:30] <Taev> theres still no crash report
[09:31] <Taev> it crashed in SAFE MODE, look is there a way to roll back to the last version of firefox i had
[09:31] <Taev> the one that actually worked
[09:31] <gryllida> Taev, launch it in safemode
[09:31] <Taev> i just did
[09:31] <gryllida> firefox -safe-mode
[09:31] <Taev> and it crashed
[09:31] <gryllida> ok
[09:31] <maxwellian> mneptok: But I think mutt is popular with old timers by now.
[09:31] <gryllida> then make new profile
[09:31] <gryllida> firefox -P
[09:31] <mneptok> maxwellian: "it just sucks less" (tm)
[09:32] <maxwellian> mneptok: Ahhh, marketing. :)
[09:32] <Dr_Willis> I still miss the 'CygnusED' editor i used on My Amiga. :) but its all a matter of what you are used to.
[09:32] <Dr_Willis> fte is also a neat powerfull console editor.
[09:32] <Taev> ok I did firefox -P
[09:32] <Taev> created a new profile
[09:32] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis: Hold on, I need to write these down.  ne and fte so far...
[09:32] <Taev> and it CRASHED
[09:32] <Pirate_Hunter> maxwellian, Dr_Willis mneptok: are discussing ideas on different text editors or is there an actual ubuntu related problem with them?
[09:32] <andimeier> Hello everyone! Is this channel the right one if I seek help because update from karmic to lucid was not successful and now my system hangs on boot, being stuck in grub?
[09:32] <Taev> Segmentation fault
[09:33] <gryllida> Taev: check for the issue in the new profile, is it crashing then? ('firefox -P' launches profile manager)
[09:33] <gryllida> ok
[09:33] <prince_jammys> andimeier: yes.
[09:33] <Taev> i created a new profile
[09:33] <gryllida> Taev: new profile crashed ---- means you have to reinstall Firefox
[09:33] <Taev> and it crashed
[09:33] <Dr_Willis> Pirate_Hunter:  i just discovered a bug with the 'fte' editor. :)
[09:33] <jayant> hii... can anyone help with the wireless setup on my ubuntu?
[09:33] <ddavids> y'all, yes there is a bug in gedit 2
[09:33] <Taev> yeah, now how do i get rid of this stupid ass version and reinstall the old version that actually worked?
[09:33] <Pirate_Hunter> Dr_Willis, really continue than don't mind me *whistle*
[09:34] <maxwellian> Pirate_Hunter: Oooh, is it easy?  Maybe I can finally fix a bug. :)
[09:34] <Dr_Willis> Pirate_Hunter:  a big one.. it cant be ran as a normal user..   off to file a bug report on it.
[09:34] <jayant> it says "device not ready" even after turning on the wireless device...
[09:34] <gryllida> Taev: http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Basic+Troubleshooting#Clean_reinstall
[09:34] <Dr_Willis> Pirate_Hunter:  yea. i notice a lot of these 'older' packages dont get as much love/attention as they should. Sad to see them get lost in the background.
[09:34] <wildbat> what is the GUI tools you ppl recommend for ripping CD too AAC ?
[09:34] <gryllida> AC?
[09:35] <gryllida> AAC?
[09:35] <jayant> and in network tools it shows the state of the wlan0 interface as "inactive"
[09:35] <mneptok> wildbat: SoundJuicer with appropriate GStreamer plugins.
[09:35] <nOgAnOo> so, I have never tried linux
[09:35] <codebrainz> ddavids, do you have a specific issue?
[09:35] <maxwellian> Taev: Unless you're on the bleeding edge, a bug that big would probably have been caught and fixed right now.
[09:35] <Taev> its 3.6.6
[09:35] <nOgAnOo> anyone wanna talk to a kewl windows user?
[09:35] <maxwellian> Taev: By now, rather.
[09:35] <nOgAnOo> pm
[09:35] <Pirate_Hunter> Dr_Willis,  I am not even aware of most older packages except mutt and pine which I need to get it working with my server email
[09:35] <ddavids> codebrainz: i get errors when trying to save with it on the terminal
[09:36] <codebrainz> ddavids, pastebin the errors
[09:36] <nOgAnOo> codebrainz
[09:36] <maxwellian> Taev: Is that the regular version for lynx?
[09:36] <nOgAnOo> i like your handle
[09:36] <nOgAnOo> You must be a great person.
[09:36] <Taev> damn it, where is the old firefox releases on mozilla.com ?
[09:36] <codebrainz> nOgAnOo, i bought it for $50,000CAD
[09:36] <bkerensa> sendmail isnt sending any mail using the php mail function any suggestions? I have checked logs and made sure the php.ini is configured properly?
[09:36] <maxwellian> Taev: (Sorry, I'm still on karmic)
[09:37] <nOgAnOo> oh, sorry, your currency is worth nothing now since the release of my nOgBucks
[09:37] <Pirate_Hunter> wildbat, rubyripper as ive been told its the best or so some websites claim however specifically for ACC (which I think its the itunes version) I am not sure
[09:37] <mneptok> Taev: did you add a PPA or enable backports to get this new version?
[09:37] <Taev> no adept update manager installed it
[09:37] <Taev> seriously, how do i get rid of this version and install the previous version i had?
[09:38] <wildbat> mneptok, Pirate_Hunter , thanks
[09:38] <Dr_Willis> !pin | Taev
[09:38] <Dr_Willis> Taev:  i thought the new version only got installed if you had backports enabled also.
[09:38] <maxwellian> bkerensa: You might have more luck in a channel specific to php or sendmail.
[09:38] <flames> hi how to play format wma in ubuntu???
[09:38] <Taev> do you guys take lessons on how to evade direct questions?
[09:38] <Dr_Willis> flames:  it depends more on teh codec used by the wma. Ive played them in mplayer and vlc befor
[09:38] <woodong50__> after format ,reintall old version
[09:38] <Dr_Willis> Taev:  yes.
[09:39] <maxwellian> Taev: No way, natural talent.
[09:39] <flames> ok thanks
[09:39] <mneptok> nOgAnOo: did you have a support question?
[09:39] <Dr_Willis> Only time ive had to use older versions of some packages was with wine and some games.
[09:39] <Taev> i just redownloaded firefox 3.6.6. and did a clean install
[09:39] <Taev> it crashed
[09:39] <Pirate_Hunter> Taev, if you remove firefox it may remove ubuntu destop and gnome at least it used to its a touchy situation that will require giving more help and to why FF is crashing for you even in safe-mode I am dazzled
[09:39] <Dr_Willis> Taev:  redownloaded?  from teh firefox web site?
[09:40] <Taev> yes
[09:40] <mneptok> Taev: move your ~/.mozilla directory aside and see if it crashes.
[09:40] <Dr_Willis> Taev:  its best to use the package manager. not downloading stuff from teh FF web site. that may be the core of your whole problem
[09:40] <Taev> just mv it to a new file name?
[09:40] <mneptok> Taev: sure
[09:40] <Taev> I didn't download the update to 3.6.6. originally from the website, Adept Package manager did it
[09:40] <jayant> hey. can anyone help me with my wireless problem?
[09:40] <Taev> I just downloaded it now because some one suggested doing a clean install
[09:40] <Pirate_Hunter> Taev, have you tried other browsers i.e. opera, chome/inium, epiphany, dillo etc
[09:40] <maxwellian> !help | jayant
[09:41] <cantmountanyhd> Hello, i booted through live cd but none of my hard drives are accessible .. they are visible but not accessible .. big error message
[09:41] <Taev> look is there a way to get synaptic to roll back to the previous version of firefox?
[09:41] <tamara> how do i change window buttons to go from left to right?
[09:41] <mneptok> Taev: no.
[09:41] <codebrainz> cantmountanyhd, pastebin the errors
[09:41] <Taev> then where can I find the previous version of firefox's .deb package
[09:41] <Taev> i can't seem to find it on mozilla.com
[09:41] <cantmountanyhd> codebrainz: roger [ btw these are fully accessible hard drives through windows 7]
[09:41] <ddavids> codebrainz: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/PJVbNftY
[09:41] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis: What is the default version of Firefox in lynx?
[09:42] <alasca> tamara,  Change your theme...
[09:42] <Pirate_Hunter> Taev, run FireFox in terminal and check for errors
[09:42] <ikonia> Taev: why are you installing things from mozillia.com ? why are you not using the package manager
[09:42] <mneptok> maxwellian: as released? or as updated?
[09:42] <Taev> I already did Pirate_Hunter
[09:42] <Taev> i ran it in safe mode too
[09:42] <Taev> it crashed
[09:42] <Taev> seg fault
[09:42] <ddavids> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/PJVbNftY
[09:42] <alasca> tamara,  right click, on desktop, change desktop background >theme..and choose from there.
[09:42] <tamara> alasca, ok, i got it
[09:42] <tamara> thanks
[09:43]  * Taev bangs head. I did use the package manager to install this infernal 3.6.6., some one just now suggested i do a clean install so i downloaded the package from mozilla.com
[09:43] <jayant> ok... the wireless works on my windows, but since i installed ubuntu 10.04 netbook edition it does not recognize any wireless connections.. and when i disable and enable network connections it says "device not ready" under wireless connections..
[09:43] <flames> cannot play VLC
[09:43] <Pirate_Hunter> Taev, did you remove it instead of using purge and than did you remove its profile hidden in ~/ if not you didnt do much
[09:43] <flames> No suitable decoder module:
[09:43] <flames> VLC does not support the audio or video format "wmap". Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this.
[09:43] <Dr_Willis> !info firefox
[09:43] <flames> VLC cannot ply wma format
[09:43] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. did they update firefox in teh main repos?
[09:43] <codebrainz> ddavids, it's hard to tell from that, can you try with a smaller file (like 100 lines-ish)
[09:43] <Taev> look could some one please point me to a directory with a deb package for the previous version of firefox
[09:43] <Dr_Willis> flames:  i think it depends on the codec to some degree.
[09:43] <Taev> thats all im asking for
[09:44] <jayant> and in the devices tab in network tools, the wlan0 interface shows as "inactive" state
[09:44] <cantmountanyhd> what is that image posting site like pastebin ? let me upload the screenshot
[09:44] <alasca> Dr_Willis,  I have a question, why firefox isn't in the repositories as it is, with no extra things...?
[09:44] <flames> so how to playing wma format in ubuntu???
[09:44] <alasca> Dr_Willis,  As it is like the version you get from firefox website...
[09:44] <alasca> flames,  You need ubuntu restricted package.
[09:44] <codebrainz> cantmountanyhd, can't just paste the text?
[09:44] <alasca> !restricted package
[09:44] <mneptok> flames: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras]
[09:45] <mneptok> -]
[09:45] <flames> ok
[09:45] <cantmountanyhd> codebrainz: naw, cant copy it
[09:45] <andimeier1> after upgrading to lucid, I cannot boot anymore, I suppose the culprit is my "special" configuration: software RAID5 which is not recognized/configured anymore. now I'm stuck in grub: "error: the symbol 'grub_puts_' not found"
[09:45] <maxwellian> Taev: Obviously you're frustrated, we get that.  No one's trying to evade your question, we're trying to figure out the best solution.  Believe it or not, people coming in here don't always know the best solution to their problem.
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> Taev:  run synaptic, search for firefox,  use package -> force version   menu item
[09:45] <abhi_nav> I was asking about this in offtopic but no help. if anyonw knows then reply other wise ignore. How to add gadges to google desktop sidebar? (I know this is crossposting. I wait for so many mintus but no help)
[09:45] <Taev> the best solution is just installing the last version of firefox that actually worked
[09:46] <codebrainz> cantmountanyhd, this comes up in google: http://imagebin.ca/
[09:46] <Taev> I can't seem to find a .deb for that
[09:46] <Taev> hehe... THeres NOT a Deb for that
[09:46] <ikonia> Taev: I'll ask again - why are you getting packages from outside the package manager
[09:46] <Taev> parody of the Iphone
[09:46] <Dr_Willis> Taev:  theres other packages that it may alwo need. so its 'best' to use synaptic. to downgrade the version
[09:46] <maxwellian> ikonia: Because he was doing a fresh install.
[09:46] <prince_jammys> ikonia: because he misinterpreted "clean install" to mean that.
[09:46] <Taev> and I'll answer again. I DIDN'T. I only downloaded it from mozilla.com just now, for the clean re-install
[09:46] <mneptok> Taev: that's not the best solution. the best solution is to determine why Firefox gives you such problems, but not others.
[09:46] <ddavids> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/L89n0rbQ
[09:46] <ikonia> maxwellian: but why go from outside the repos ?
[09:47] <ddavids> codebrainz: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/L89n0rbQ
[09:47] <maxwellian> ikonia: Because he thought that's what you're supposed to do.
[09:47] <Dr_Willis> abhi_nav:  i thought i just dragged them over there to the side bar last i used google gadgets. or right clciked on teh sidebar and added them
[09:47] <ikonia> ah, he's not actually installed it yet
[09:47] <cantmountanyhd> codebrainz: http://yfrog.com/j0screenshothrp
[09:47] <Belserusk> Hi. I was looking at a friends laptop yesterday. I saw a button on the same row as the help, wireless and power buttons. It has a symbol on it that kind of looks like this: http://michaelgr.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/radioactive-001.png What is its function? I pressed it but nothing happened! The laptop model is a Fujitsu Siemens Amilo L1310G
[09:47] <codebrainz> ddavids, yeah, i can't tell from that, those eerors are useless, try it with a file that is less than 50K lines, more like 20-100 lines long
[09:48] <abhi_nav> Dr_Willis, do I need to install sidebar separately? i installed google desktop but there is no sidebar anywhere
[09:48] <ikonia> Belserusk: that is nothing to do with ubuntu
[09:48] <Taev> thanks Dr_Willis
[09:48] <jayant> anyone who can help me out here? wireless connection shows up as "device not ready" even after turning on wireless
[09:48] <Dr_Willis> abhi_nav:  its been ages since i last used it. and i hate the side bar.
[09:48] <abhi_nav> Dr_Willis, ok
[09:48] <RJames_> ok.. so I get the phantom login on my desktop system as well
[09:48] <ddavids> codebrainz: will this help? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/L89n0rbQ
[09:49] <RJames_> so I suppose my USB drive is suspect
[09:49] <Taev> you know I used to love Ubuntu, but now it seems its moving away from doing what users want, and doing what you think they should do instead, its just like the other day when I asked how to log in as root
[09:49] <Taev> no one wanted to say run kuser and set a password for root, it was "oh no" use sudo,
[09:49] <codebrainz> ddavids, heh, no.  do you have a massive text file open?
[09:49] <Dr_Willis> abhi_nav:  i just right cluicked on the sidebar. add gadgets - sleected one.. and it went to the sidebar
[09:49] <ezhackxx_> @Jayant: Update the OS.
[09:49] <Pirate_Hunter> Taev, you should delete your current firefox profile found hidden in your home directory, than purge firefox and install whatever version you want usinf sudo aptitude/apt-get install firefox-2/3.0/3.5 etc
[09:49] <prince_jammys> Taev: this channel has policies. you don't have to follow them, just don't expect answers for that here.
[09:49] <maxwellian> Taev: If I just bought a gun from a gun store and asked the owner how to shoot myself in the foot, do you think it's a good idea for him to show me?
[09:49] <abhi_nav> Dr_Willis, yah I know that but for that atleast the sidebar bar should be ther naa? but it is not there? :(
[09:49] <ddavids> no
[09:49] <Dr_Willis> abhi_nav:  if you dont see a sidebar. check the settings in teh google gadgets appleticon
[09:50] <mneptok> Taev: because running as root is dangerous, is not supported, and will not be discussed on this channel per policy.
[09:50] <abhi_nav> Dr_Willis, ok
[09:50] <Dr_Willis> abhi_nav:  it can show/hide it. :) logical eh
[09:50] <codebrainz> cantmountanyhd, easiest solution is to boot back into windows and shutdown properly
[09:50] <Taev> to expand on your analogy, if i bought the gun then its MINE. I can do whatever I want with it.
[09:50] <jayant> @ezhackxx update the OS? i have ubuntu 10.04 netbook edition..
[09:50] <abhi_nav> Dr_Willis, ok i wll check it
[09:50] <maxwellian> Taev: Absolutely, it is.
[09:50] <cantmountanyhd> codebrainz: but i have done it so many times
[09:50] <jayant> and i cant get onilne from ubuntu to update or download any packages either..
[09:50] <mneptok> Taev: i think you need to accept that Firefox is probably not the issue, and something about your configuration is.
[09:51] <cantmountanyhd> codebrainz:  restart through windows is a proper shut down right ?
[09:51] <maxwellian> Taev: But people are generally nice enough to provide you with information that is in your best interest.
[09:51] <Taev> damn it i did what Dr_Willis said to do
[09:51] <ramit_> can anybody knows where is uid of hard-disk is
[09:51] <Taev> and it reinstalled 3.6.6.
[09:51] <codebrainz> cantmountanyhd, should be
[09:51] <maxwellian> Taev: Even if you rail against it for some reason.
[09:51] <Taev> and it just crashed again
[09:51] <ezhackxx_> @Jayant Some driver do not come in default
[09:51] <cantmountanyhd> codebrainz:  then i have done it more than a few times
[09:51] <codebrainz> cantmountanyhd, you can mount with the --force option, by doing it manually
[09:51] <mneptok> Taev: as i said before, move aside your Firefox profile or test with the guest account.
[09:51] <cantmountanyhd> ya i tried that command in the error msg .. didnt work
[09:51] <Taev> look there has got to be a directory online with the default install packages
[09:51] <Dr_Willis> Taev:  if you 'installed' firefox from teh firefox download page. You may need to remove that. or you may be accidently running that version
[09:51] <cantmountanyhd> says i need to be a root
[09:51] <Pirate_Hunter> Taev, delete your frigging profile your still using the old firefox folders
[09:51] <Taev> a version of firefox other than 3.6.6.
[09:52] <ddavids> codebrainz: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/PuxLjbR5
[09:52] <Pirate_Hunter> Taev, i've posted the same thing dont know how many times
[09:52] <cantmountanyhd> i have terminal open .. i know some sudo or something .. not sure
[09:52] <ezhackxx_> @Jayant: I experienced the same probs. Had to connect with a LAN Cable to do that
[09:52] <Dr_Willis> Taev:  if you truely insrtalled ff 3.6.3 - then it is downloaded to the /var/cache/apt dir
[09:52] <codebrainz> cantmountanyhd, if you feel confident, use 'sudo' before the command
[09:52] <Taev> i wiped out that directory last week
[09:52] <Taev> to get space
[09:52] <jayant> @ezhackxx is there a way to download the drivers from windows and install them on ubuntu later?
[09:52] <Taev> and the version i downloaded from mozilla.com to test the clean install was a tar.bz2 that I ran locally from my home folder
[09:52] <Taev> i didn't install it
[09:53] <codebrainz> ddavids, heh, it's that those single line errors mean nothing to me.  if you can't provide actual more errors, i can't tell from those pastebins
[09:53] <ezhackxx_> @Jayant: Don't think so
[09:53] <codebrainz> ddavids, it's not enough for me to go on
[09:53] <ddavids> ok, i see but i have no idea how to generate more errors
[09:53] <abhi_nav> jayant, which drivers?
[09:53] <asianmale> codebrainz: your gay as hell lol
[09:54] <jayant> for my wireless connection.... it says "device not ready"
[09:54] <Pirate_Hunter> jayant, the only time I would think of doing that is to be used with an application running wine and you should be able to using firefox unless the site specifically wants you to use IE but than you could try the user agent plugin to bypass that
[09:54] <ezhackxx_> @Jayant: If you can lay your hand on a TPLINK Wireless USB Dongle
[09:54] <cantmountanyhd> didnt work
[09:54] <codebrainz> ddavids, when you run from the console, do :  gedit 1>>logfile.txt 2>>logfile.txt  and then see if anything interesting is in logfile.txt
[09:54] <codebrainz> mneptok, thank you
[09:54] <ezhackxx_> @Jayant: Its driver is preinstalled
[09:54]  * mneptok bows
[09:55] <jayant> @ezhackxx  whats that??
[09:55] <cantmountanyhd> ah anyways , i will go to windows, boot .. and will say shut down .. wont help but no harm in trying
[09:55] <codebrainz> cantmountanyhd, worth a try, then come back and fix if it doesn't work
[09:55] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis: What did you have Taev do, reinstall?
[09:55] <jayant> how can i know? when i try to see the list of hardware drivers nothing shows up
[09:55] <Taev> please would some one give me a url that has a .deb for a version of firefox before 3.6.6
[09:55] <Taev> Im begging you
[09:56] <prince_jammys> stop that.
[09:56] <Pirate_Hunter> maxwell_, Dr_Willis : I think the problem might be his profile folder in home but I don't think they understand what I meant
[09:56] <Dr_Willis> maxwellian:  use synaptic and select teh older version.. Not sure if he did it properly or not. and IF he did install 3.6.3 the .deb should be in his /var/cache/apt    but  i dont think hes looked.
[09:56] <Dr_Willis> Pirate_Hunter:  possibaly.
[09:57] <Taev> all i can find on FTP Directory trees are the .ISO for ubuntu
[09:57] <Taev> I can't find the packages
[09:57] <maxwellian> Taev: We're not hiding anything from you.  Trust me, if I had the link I'd give it to you.
[09:57] <maxwellian> Taev: Thousands of people are running that version of Firefox.
[09:57] <Pirate_Hunter> Dr_Willis, I get the feeling they are not doing anything that has been suggested and instead just asking about the .deb which wont help them
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> Taev:  if you did use synaptic to install teh older version just now - it would be saved in   /var/cache/apt/archives
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> !info firefox
[09:59] <prince_jammys> why bother? he/she invented that getting a different version of Firefox is the solution.
[09:59] <Pirate_Hunter> Taev, how long you've been using ubuntu, ok im going to give you step by step instructions which you should follow were going to purge firefox, delete its folder and reinstall it again
[09:59] <Taev> file:///var/cache/apt/archives/firefox-3.0_3.6.6+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.2_all.deb
[09:59] <Taev> thats what it installed
[09:59] <codebrainz> apt-get install iceweasel
[09:59] <Taev> when i selected force, and 3.whatever
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/
[10:00] <Pirate_Hunter> Taev, sudo aptitude update (just for the sake of it), than sudo aptitude purge firefox (that willl remove all its components do read what the screen tells you)
[10:00] <Zeu5> hi there, sorry i am asking how to use filezilla in ubuntu. i cannot find the edit in filezilla in order to change my settings. please advise.
[10:00] <RJames_> I'm tired and defeated.  My mystery login seems to stem either from the USB or the particular netbook iso since I get the same behavior from my netbook and desktop.  Tomorrow I'll try a different ubuntu ISO that I've already downloaded.  Then if that fails, I think I'll try with different flavor of linux.  If all of that fails.  I will renouce all technology and join monkdom.
[10:01] <abhi_nav> Taev, you want older version of ff and it is not availabl on internet?
[10:01] <Zeu5> hi there, sorry i am asking how to use filezilla in ubuntu. i cannot find the edit in filezilla in order to change my settings. please advise. i have seen screenshots in tutorials that it is there. but not on my fielzilla. i am using lucid 10.0.4
[10:01] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, i am certain filezilla is an application and you can change its settings through the preferrences menu
[10:01] <codebrainz> RJames_, I sell wooden CPUs on the weekends, very *not tech*
[10:01] <Taev> there i just did a complete removal of firefox 3.6.6.
[10:01] <Taev> good riddance
[10:01] <Pirate_Hunter> abhi_nav, actually it is but I dont thing they know about sudo or commandline but than synaptic has been suggested
[10:02] <RJames_> codebrainz: please send me your catalog.
[10:02] <Zeu5> hi Pirate_Hunter u mean by system > preferences? it is not there
[10:02] <Taev> now im going to try this firefox_3.6.3+nobinonly-0ubuntu4_i386.deb
[10:02]  * maxwellian sighs.
[10:02] <Pirate_Hunter> Taev, you mean you sudo aptitude purge firefox? are you sure I need to be certain
[10:02] <abhi_nav> Pirate_Hunter, Taev what I suggest you is go to firefox channel. atleast one of them have older version of firefox. so they will upload it for you on their website. your sent you throu some link. see that
[10:03] <RJames_> ok fellas and non-fellas.  You take care.  Thanks for all your suggestions and helps and the oh-so-good-times
[10:03] <prince_jammys> sigh.
[10:03] <maxwellian> Pirate_Hunter: Dude, give up.
[10:03] <codebrainz> RJames_, http://www.bizrate.com/learning-toys/wooden-abacus-toys/
[10:03] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, filezilla is an application you need to start it than set your preferences
[10:03] <RJames_> codebrainz: LOL. too advanced for me.
[10:03] <ingenius> Anyone can help me with a termios problem ?
[10:03] <codebrainz> RJames_, night :)
[10:03] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: i already started it. i really cannot find this file, edit, etc
[10:03] <Taev> dpkg: error processing firefox (--install):
[10:03] <Taev>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[10:03] <Taev> Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:03] <Taev>  firefox
[10:03] <Taev> RESULT=1
[10:03] <FloodBot1> Taev: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:03] <Taev>  
[10:03] <maxwellian> Pirate_Hunter: I understand the frustration on their end, but I've never seen someone so disinterested in actually solving a problem.
[10:03] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter:  that is why i find it so werid
[10:03] <Pirate_Hunter> maxwellian,  I will than start calling troll and block them until than doing step by step removal is not that difficult
[10:04] <prince_jammys> Taev: install firefox with aptitude.
[10:04] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, why do you find it weird?
[10:04] <Taev> it will just install 3.6.6
[10:04]  * Dr_Willis waits ffor Taev 's older firefox to also crash.
[10:04] <Taev> I don't want 3.6.6. since its buggy
[10:04] <Taev> it wouldn't install
[10:04] <prince_jammys> Taev: install it.
[10:04] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, http://filezilla-project.org/client_screenshots.php that is how it looks like
[10:04] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: because they all say the same thing http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=733697
[10:04] <Dr_Willis> I did have some conflicts with trying to downgrade to 3.6.3 just now.. but i have a lot of extra stuff installed.
[10:04] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: i dont have Edit.
[10:05] <Pirate_Hunter> prince_jammys, dont tell him to install it they must remove it the profile directory first
[10:05] <prince_jammys> Pirate_Hunter: he's done so.
[10:05] <prince_jammys> or at least said he did.
[10:05] <prince_jammys> either way, he can remove it after reinstalling.
[10:05] <Pirate_Hunter> Taev, did you remove it and please use my name
[10:05] <Taev> there i did as Pirate_Hunter suggested, sudo aptitude update, then sudo aptitude purge firefox
[10:06] <Pirate_Hunter> prince_jammys, true but im doing baby steps somehting I rarely do
[10:06] <Taev> now what?
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> Taev:  try running 'firefox' from the terminal and see if it runs
[10:06] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis: Gah, hold on.
[10:06] <Taev> I already did that, and I did firefox -safe-mode, they crashed
[10:06] <Taev> now i just purged firefox
[10:06] <Taev> so I can't do it again
[10:06] <Pirate_Hunter> Taev,  good, now go to your home directory, which has the folders Documents, Downloads etc and press ctrl+H to show hidden folders
[10:07] <Dr_Willis> Taev:  so 'firefox' now gives a 'command not found' ?
[10:07] <Taev> you want me to delete .mozilla?
[10:07] <Taev> is that it
[10:07] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis: I don't think he ever got an older version to install.
[10:07] <eoke> Taev: Avoid deleting anything until you know that's the problem just rename it.
[10:07] <Taev> yeah Dr_Willis
[10:07] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, huh? I dont know what your following but filezilla can be installed from synaptic or command line
[10:07] <codebrainz> Taev,   apt-get --reinstall --purge install firefox, try that?
[10:07] <maxwellian> codebrainz: Gah, wait.
[10:08] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: see this http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/7ZWUAtHfPxUXxTmbAgKlqg?feat=directlink
[10:08] <Taev> Ill rename .mozilla to .moz366sucks
[10:08] <Dr_Willis> !info firefox
[10:08] <Pirate_Hunter> Taev, justt delete it
[10:08] <Taev> there its done
[10:08] <Dr_Willis> So they Put the ff Updates in 'main' not backports  it seems.
[10:08] <Taev> now what? apt-get install firefox ?
[10:09] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, what window manager do you have?
[10:09] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: i think its gnome?
[10:09] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: sorry i am very noob. i dont even know the difference between kde and gnome etc
[10:09] <Taev> well since no one answered, i just did apt-get install firefox
[10:09] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: how do i check ?
[10:09] <maxwellian> Taev: Smart move.
[10:10] <Pirate_Hunter> Taev, check the config folder for nay remains of firefolx/mozilla files or folders even knowing I think you removed it all after that do sudo aptitude search firefox and tell me which version you want
[10:10] <maxwellian> Taev: I wonder how you end with configurations that crash...
[10:10] <Taev> it crashed
[10:10] <Taev> ok, guess i have to purge again
[10:11] <codebrainz> Taev,   apt-get --reinstall --purge install firefox, try that?
[10:11] <Taev> what does "score is -172" do you accept this solution, mean?
[10:11] <Taev> it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop
[10:11] <Taev> wtf
[10:11] <prince_jammys> that's ok.
[10:11] <codebrainz> Taev, it will reinstall, it's just a metapackage
[10:11] <Sagaci> Yeah it's a bit funny like that
[10:11] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, it should tell you on start up or you can go to system>administrator>and one of the option there tells you your system info
[10:12] <floating> Anyone remember the name of dictionary software that allows you to search words that you click for example on irc or web browser such as babylon
[10:12] <Sagaci> System monitor
[10:12] <maxwellian> codebrainz: Really?  Why is it set up that way?
[10:12] <Pirate_Hunter> Dr_Willis, care to help me here I need to know how identify which version of ubuntu Zeu5 is using?
[10:12] <prince_jammys> !version
[10:12] <Pirate_Hunter> Sagaci, thanks
[10:12] <floating> I mean babylon is the windows program that is not freeware
[10:12] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: i am using lucid. 10.0.4
[10:12] <codebrainz> maxwellian, they make one metapackage, and that installs all the stuff they want on top of the base system
[10:12] <floating> ah, must have been stardict
[10:13] <Taev> I did aptitude search firefox and it just lists a bunch of extension packages
[10:13] <Taev> and dummy packages
[10:13] <Taev> no specific versions
[10:13] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, ok you are using gnome
[10:13] <codebrainz> maxwellian, you could make a package depend on anything, like all the kde packages (kubuntu-desktop) etc.
[10:13] <Taev> firefox -safe-mode Segmentation Fault
[10:13] <maxwellian> codebrainz: I get that, but why would they remove the desktop metapackage if you're removing firefox?
[10:13] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: yes i just found it. its gnome. according to the login screen
[10:13] <maxwellian> codebrainz: Surely other things depend on it?
[10:14] <Pirate_Hunter> Taev, you looking for the ones that say firefo-2, firefox-3.0 etc choose which version you want than do sudo aptitude install that [version type]
[10:14] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: so whats next?
[10:14] <codebrainz> maxwellian, because ubuntu-desktop depends on firefox
[10:14] <Taev> brb
[10:14] <maxwellian> codebrainz: Oh, duh.  I didn't know that.
[10:14] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, I am just wondering if you open nautilus does the same thing happen?
[10:14] <codebrainz> maxwellian, but removing ubuntu-desktop just removes the meta-packages, not all that it depends on
[10:14] <prince_jammys> maxwellian: no, a metapackage is just a hack so that when you install it, it auto-installs a bunch of packages. Once you remove any of _those_ packages, the metapackage can be (must be) removed.
[10:14] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: on any folders?
[10:15] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: i see the file edit etc when i open a folder
[10:15] <prince_jammys> maxwellian: i.e. the metapackage contains _nothing_ but a list of dependencies.
[10:15] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, on any folder as that would be global or do all your application open like that
[10:15] <Sagaci> Like ubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:15] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: right now i am using chatzilla and i also can see its edit, etc
[10:15] <codebrainz> maxwellian, it's just an easy way to install all the packages that make "ubuntu" in one "fictional" package
[10:15] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: only filezilla apparently is missing the file edit.etc
[10:16] <Sagaci> Pretty good hack
[10:16] <abhinav> Hi ..  I installed ubuntu on a new computer (lucid, 64 bit) and copied over my /home and installed packages. However, I get some widgets in wierd colors . as if the theme hasn't applied. This is with both compiz and metacity.
[10:16] <maxwellian> codebrainz: Okay, so all the things that supposedly depend on ubuntu-desktop are still there.
[10:16] <prince_jammys> correct
[10:16] <crevillo> hello
[10:16] <abhinav> Some screenshots : http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=162366&d=1278230001 , http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=162367&d=1278230001
[10:16] <codebrainz> maxwellian, all the things that ubuntu-desktop depends on remain in tact
[10:17] <crevillo> anyone knows a psd-viewer for ubuntu?
[10:17] <maxwellian> codebrainz: Oh, so I have it backwards?
[10:17] <prince_jammys> maxwellian: err, backwords. all the things ubuntu-desktop depends on.
[10:17] <prince_jammys> *wards
[10:17] <Taev> ok, I have mozilla's crappy 3.6.6 installed now
[10:17] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, weird I just installed it myself and your saying it is only filezilla that has the problem
[10:17] <Taev> it keeps crashing saying seg fault
[10:17] <maxwellian> prince_jammys, codebrainz: Thanks, I'll have to look into these metapackages more.
[10:18] <codebrainz> maxwellian, grab a .deb package, extract it with file-roller and have a look at the contents, it'll all make sense... also see Debian Package Maintainer's Guide
[10:18] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: perhaps i need to reinstall it/
[10:18] <shubbar> win xp on virtualbox is not detecting my usb scanner eventhough i have made a usb filter for the scanner in vb setting
[10:18] <Taev> do i have to uninstall firefox, to install one of the other versions, Pirate_Hunter
[10:18] <prince_jammys> Taev: you should explore why this is happening.
[10:18] <Taev> a buggy version of 3.6.6
[10:18] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, I wouldve thouth it happened to all your applications I would start suggesting a reinstall which you just typed but would purge it first and its files from home
[10:18] <prince_jammys> says who?
[10:18] <Taev> because the last version worked fine
[10:18] <Taev> occams razor
[10:19] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: how do i export all my settings first?
[10:19] <codebrainz> crevillo, evince?
[10:19] <matt____> Good morning, If I'm trying to get a VGA analog display device to show picture through a DVI port (with an adapter), and am having problems detecting it with NVIDIA control panel in Ubuntu, is it most likely an xorg.conf issue? Thanks
[10:19] <prince_jammys> Taev: ah, and your system is identical in every way to the old working firefox except for firefox version?
[10:19] <crevillo> don't know it, let's try :)
[10:19] <Pirate_Hunter> Taev, most of the times you dont as it will replace the current version but you do need to delete the firefox folderhidden in home
[10:19] <crevillo> thanks codebrainz
[10:19] <Taev> i did Pirate_Hunter
[10:19] <codebrainz> crevillo, or epdf, both great
[10:19] <Taev> well i mv'ed it
[10:19] <maxwellian> Taev: Not only that, but the thousands of either people using that version just haven't noticed that their browser doesn't actually run.
[10:19] <Taev> ill delete it
[10:20] <crevillo> thanks again, codebrainz
[10:20] <maxwellian> Taev: Other, rather.
[10:20] <codebrainz> crevillo, yo
[10:20] <prince_jammys> Normally, you describe your problem and others provide solutions. You don't provide the solution yourself.
[10:20] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, those would most likely be in /etc/filezilla or hidden in you ~/[your name]/.filezilla/...
[10:20] <codebrainz> midori to the rescue !  /sarcasm
[10:20] <eoke> matt____: A DVI to VGA adapter typically prevents your computer from collecting the EDID data from your monitor.  The EDID data tells the computer the performance characteristics of the monitor.
[10:21] <Pirate_Hunter> Taev, than yeah just install it, good luck if all fails stick to another browser
[10:21] <maxwellian> Taev: The worst case scenario is that this IS actually a very critical bug, in which case we need to report it, not just curse it and hope that next time you update it doesn't happen again.
[10:22] <Taev> I just deleted the .mozilla directory
[10:22] <Taev> and I did a complete removal of firefox
[10:22] <eoke> matt____: A work around I've used in the past is getting the EDID data using the nvidia-settings tool and then using a CustomEDID reference in the Xorg conf file.
[10:22] <matt____> eoke: Oh, I never knew that. Do you know if it's possible to give the EDID data manually?
[10:22] <matt____> eoke: Oh - thanks. I'll look into that.
[10:23] <Taev> now do the aptitude search firefox?
[10:23] <gryllida> Taev: yes
[10:23]  * prince_jammys giggles.
[10:23] <eoke> matt____: I wasn't very clear sorry the nvidia-settings tool needs to be connected via DVI to save the EDID data to a file.
[10:23] <prince_jammys> let's try it fifteen times, maybe it works now.
[10:23] <Taev> which package should I install? firefox 2., firefox 3
[10:23] <Taev> they say they are dummy packages
[10:24] <Taev> I want a version other than 3.6.6.
[10:24] <prince_jammys> you don't really know what you want.
[10:24] <prince_jammys> you want firefox to work, that's what you want.
[10:24] <Dr_Willis> i  wonder if its a bad package/download. but it has checksums for that
[10:24] <codebrainz> Taev,   apt-get --reinstall --purge install firefox, try that?
[10:24] <Sagaci> Try chromium
[10:24] <Taev> fine ill try that right now
[10:24] <prince_jammys> don't invent what the problem is
[10:24] <codebrainz> ah, the up arrow key
[10:25] <Dr_Willis> 3.6.6 is the default. so thast will put 3.6.6 back on
[10:25] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis: Why is it the default?  I'm seeing articles from last week describing how to install 3.6.6 on Ubuntu.
[10:25] <Taev> i did it
[10:25] <Taev> it crashed again
[10:25] <Dr_Willis> !info firefox
[10:25] <Dr_Willis> maxwellian:  that factoid says its 3.6.6 now in main
[10:26] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: how do i purge my previous installation of filezilla?
[10:26] <Taev> so now that I've done that. How do I install a version of firefox other than 3.6.6.
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> maxwellian:  i thought it was added to backports..but it seems they Updated main
[10:26] <codebrainz> Taev, have you run it from the terminal, to see what it's telling you is wrong?
[10:26] <Pirate_Hunter> sudo apt-get purge filezilla
[10:26] <Taev> Segmentation Fault
[10:26] <maxwellian> codebrainz: He said it was just a seg fault.
[10:26] <codebrainz> bleak
[10:26] <matt____> eoke: Sorry I don't understand fully... what do you mean nvidia-settings tool needs to be connected via DVI? Thanks
[10:27] <Taev> Look this shit only started when I updated to 3.6.6., so I want to install the previous package I had and see if it works
[10:27] <Taev> if it works then its 3.6.6. is buggy, if it doesn't it means its a problem with my system
[10:27] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, your problem seems to be unique only one listing of it and that has got no response coincidently it might have been you asking in ubuntu forums
[10:27] <Taev> there has got to be a directory ubuntu keeps of all the files they include with a release
[10:27] <codebrainz> 3.6.6 works fine here :)
[10:28] <Taev> so you're saying it can't possibly be a buggy package, and that trying it my way is a waste of time?
[10:28] <Dr_Willis> codebrainz:  which is why i wonder if his package is the issue.it may be currupted
[10:28] <Taev> because it works for your system...
[10:28] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: huh? i only posted my isssue in superuser. i did not post in ubuntu forums
[10:28] <eoke> matt____: The solution I've used in the past required me to connect the monitor to a DVI port initially, possibly on another machine altogether.  Theres then an "Acquire EDID" button in nvidia-settings.  This saves the EDID data to a file that you can then use when connecting via the VGA adapter.
[10:28] <codebrainz> Taev, you can see all the files with dpkg -s firefox
[10:28] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis: He keeps re-installing it though.
[10:28] <Taev> look where does adept check for new ubuntu packages
[10:29] <Taev> there has got to be a list of the previous firefox .deb packages ubuntu has put out
[10:29] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, than it is someone else and it still has no response try to purge than reisntall it
[10:29] <maxwellian> Taev: Didn't you download one already?
[10:29] <maxwellian> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/firefox_3.6.3+nobinonly-0ubuntu4_i386.deb
[10:29] <codebrainz> err, Taev capitol -S
[10:29] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: i tried to use the completely removed, followed by an installaiton. stil the same thing
[10:29] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: where is that post you were talking about?
[10:30] <matt____> eoke: I got it that time... I'll go try, thanks for your help.
[10:30] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, if the samething happens try closing and running it from terminal it should tell you the problem
[10:30] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, one sec
[10:30] <maxwellian> Taev: Dr_Willis put a link to that page up like ten minutes ago.  But he wasn't able to do the downgrade, so I hope it works better for you.
[10:31] <prince_jammys>  http://www.worldlingo.com/ma/enwiki/en/XY_problem is a nice page you can visit when you get firefox fixed.
[10:31] <Dr_Willis> maxwellian:  i tried via synaptic. dident try teh .deb
[10:31] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis: Ah.
[10:31] <Dr_Willis> maxwellian:  yes. he need to tell apt/aptitude to use the older version.
[10:32] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8737705
[10:32] <maxwellian> prince_jammys: Nice. :)
[10:33] <Pirate_Hunter> Dr_Willis, they've still have not resolved the FF issue even afetr choosing another version?
[10:33] <prince_jammys> maxwellian: text book example here, with many dragged in.
[10:33] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, does terminall tell you anything
[10:33] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: running filezilla from terminal made no difference. expect when i closed it
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> Pirate_Hunter:  whatg issue? ive not seen any issues
[10:33] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: kei@kei-laptop:~$ filezilla
[10:33] <Zeu5> (filezilla:30455): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `object->ref_count > 0' failed
[10:34] <maxwellian> prince_jammys: I think I'm gonna save that link for later...
[10:34] <Taev> well apparently i can't downgrade
[10:34] <Taev> dependency issues
[10:34] <prince_jammys> maxwellian: http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=542341
[10:34] <Taev> this is just great
[10:34] <maxwellian> Taev: What happened?
[10:34] <maxwellian> Taev: What did you try to do?
[10:34] <Taev> it wont install because of dependencies
[10:34] <Taev> so I forced it
[10:35] <Pirate_Hunter>  Dr_Willis, never mind I am resisting suggesting through pm maybe W$ would be better :(
[10:35] <Taev> won't run
[10:35] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, would've thought it would state anything about gtk hmmm
[10:35] <Taev> it seems to only crash on cnn.com
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/firefox_3.6.3+nobinonly-0ubuntu4_i386.deb
[10:35] <darkas> Hi! I'm having problems with my touchpad on the Acer Aspire 1830T (netbook remix, 10.4): any configuration I'm doing isn't applied. So the changes are done in the menus and are actually saved, but I can configure what I want without any effect. The relevant part of my Xorg.0.log is: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/64TE3nta
[10:35] <darkas> Is there anyone who could help me with that please?
[10:35] <maxwellian> Taev: What?!
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> Taev:  so all this time i just crashes on ONE site?
[10:36] <Sagaci> Ask your question
[10:36] <Taev> No
[10:36] <maxwellian> Taev: Are you freaking kidding?
[10:36] <Taev> it just crashes reliably on cnn.com
[10:36] <Taev> it just crashed on slashdot 1 out of the 3 times i just reloaded it
[10:36] <maxwellian> Taev: Everything you've said so far is that it won't even run.
[10:36] <Taev> No I said it crashes
[10:36] <prince_jammys> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozilla-noscript/+bug/231769
[10:36] <Taev> 100% of the time on cnn.com, 80% of the time with everything else
[10:36] <bleah> hy
[10:37] <bleah> i have a problem whit my webcam , the picture is upside down ... how can i fix thus problem , i have a laptop and i use lubuntu
[10:37] <prince_jammys> Taev: never mind, that's a bug for 'no-script' extension.
[10:38] <maxwellian> prince_jammys: Presumably he doesn't have any extensions, right?
[10:38] <Taev> so... it was a bug with 3.6.6.?
[10:38] <Taev> now how do I fix it?
[10:38] <prince_jammys> maxwellian: yes, just reinstalled.
[10:39] <prince_jammys> Taev: no, it's a mistake of mine. not a bug for you. it doesn mention cnn.com, coincidentally
[10:39] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: so what do i do now
[10:39] <eoke> bleah: You could try "echo 1 >/sys/class/video4linux/video0/vflip"
[10:39] <Zeu5> ?
[10:39] <prince_jammys> *does
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> Taev:  you could also try gettting the packages from antoehr source/repository - it could be the .deb you are downloaading has some issues.
[10:39] <Taev> Firefox crashes at cnn.com is the headline
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> I cant find any hits at all on the forums with ff 3.6.6 crashing
[10:40] <bleah> eoke i get error , no such fie or diredtory
[10:40] <Taev> It crashes only sometimes (simply shuts down with no message) when visiting certain sites such as www.cnn.com, I receive the following error message if starting Firefox through the console, running on Ubuntu 8.04:
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> and cnn.com  is working here for 3.6.6 - and if its segfaulting theinstant it starts up..  i have to ask.. is cnn.com your homepage?
[10:40] <Taev> Im running 8.04
[10:40] <FloodBot1> Taev: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:40] <bleah> should i install any package _
[10:40] <Taev> its crashing for me at cnn.com
[10:40] <maxwellian> Taev: I'm just...astounded.
[10:40] <codebrainz> bleah, pastebin the output of 'ls /dev/video*'
[10:40] <prince_jammys> Taev: but you say it crashes in many other sites, too, correct?
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> 8.04 ? Hmm.. i dont recall you mentioning using  that old a version befor.
[10:40] <maxwellian> Taev: I understand that you are frustrated, but you are really making this difficult on yourself.
[10:40] <eoke> bleah: Could you pastebin the output of lsub as well please.
[10:41] <maxwellian> Taev: You're using 8.04?!
[10:41] <eoke> bleah: CORRECTION: Could you pastebin the output of lsusb as well please.
[10:41] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, for now you may want to try a different ftp client until I can find soemthing to resolve you problem, this problem should've been global not just on filezilla
[10:41] <prince_jammys> maxwellian: classic XY. tons of time wasted.
[10:41] <mouseover> What is the safe/correct place for me to edit .xinitrc files? of other X related files
[10:41] <eoke> Taev: Is firefox ok on sites that don't have flash content?
[10:41] <maxwellian> prince_jammys: This is almost funny now.
[10:42] <prince_jammys> maxwellian: happens all the time on irc :)
[10:42] <Taev> give me a site that doesn't have flash
[10:42] <Taev> as a control
[10:42] <codebrainz> mouseover, in ~/.xinitrc ... pretty safe :)
[10:42] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: sounds like you may need a while. i cannot be here for the rest of today. is there a way u can drop me a message? how about a superuser.com account?
[10:42] <maxwellian> prince_jammys: I'm actually laughing right now.
[10:42] <eoke> Taev: www.google.co.uk
[10:42] <Taev> no it didn't crash
[10:43] <maxwellian> prince_jammys: Anyway, he can't actually be using 8.10, because he said Update Manager got him 3.6.6 didn't he?
[10:43] <Sagaci> Flash issue
[10:43] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, no worries im mostly afk but if you pm me I'll respond
[10:43] <bleah> eoke , http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/459065/
[10:43] <Taev> i tried  sudo apt-get install --reinstall mozilla-plugin-gnash like that one page suggested
[10:43] <Taev> nothing
[10:43] <eoke> Taev: Can you disable the shockwave flash plugin and try the sites that were causing you to crash before.
[10:43] <Taev> hell i just installed adobe flash 10
[10:44] <codebrainz> bleah, what is the output of 'ls -s /dev/video*'
[10:44] <Taev> still crashes with adobe flash 10 installed
[10:44] <Pirate_Hunter> Sagaci, nope user issue and they dont want a different browser I would suggest epiphany-browser since it is close to firefox
[10:44] <eoke> Taev: It may be problematic with your older version of Ubuntu.
[10:44] <Taev> ok ill try that eoke
[10:44] <jan> hi guys, I need to write gnome applet which gets a value from html page from server and show it on gnome panel. I've found some examples and tutorials, but I'm still confused from it. Can someone help, please? :)
[10:44] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: okie then. i will leave in 20 mins time. really appreciate your help. bye bye if i dont see u later
[10:44] <Taev> how do I disable flash?
[10:44] <Taev> I never had to do it before
[10:44] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, if you really need to use ftp urgently i would suggest for now another client otherwise just come back later who knows someone might actually know how to fix that
[10:44] <bleah> eoke , http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/459067/
[10:45] <maxwellian> Taev: Can you please run 'lsb_release -a' and make sure you're running 8.10?
[10:45] <codebrainz> jan, easiest is to probably use python.. it has gnome bindings to all of this and excellent remote file stuff built-in
[10:45] <maxwellian> Taev: I don't understand how you ended up with 3.6.6 if that's the case.
[10:45] <Taev> im not running 8.10
[10:45] <Taev> Im running 8.04 Hardy
[10:45] <codebrainz> bleah, what program are you testing in?
[10:45] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: i realised that it is actually there.  but just not visible.  i need to press ALt + E
[10:46] <bleah> cheese
[10:46] <Taev> so how do i disable flash on firefox?
[10:46] <stimpie> how do I manage which services are started on boot?
[10:46] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: this is super weird
[10:46] <jan> codebrainz: thanks, I'll take a look on it.
[10:46] <bleah> output of lspci http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/459068/
[10:47] <Taev> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozilla-noscript/+bug/231769  that page has my problem dead to rights, but they closed it
[10:47] <eoke> Taev: Did you mean to say "without"?
[10:47] <Taev> saying they didn't post the required info
[10:47] <prince_jammys> Taev: ignore that URL, it was a mistake.
[10:47] <eoke> Taev: Sorry ignore that just read an old post my bad
[10:47] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, eeerh at least you realised it probably a feature of the application
[10:47] <Taev> no it wasn't
[10:47] <codebrainz> bleah, eoke  so there is a video0 device ...
[10:47] <Taev> its my exact problem
[10:47] <Taev> 8.04, crashes on cnn.com
[10:47] <Taev> seg fault
[10:47] <Taev> its my exact problem
[10:47] <maxwellian> Taev: We can all read.
[10:47] <maxwellian> Taev: That is referring to an extension that you don't have.
[10:47] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: but it is still not visible. blearh... i am sick of this
[10:48] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, since I dont use ftp clients I wouldn't have known at leats now I know and you can go help that other person in ubuntu forums
[10:48] <prince_jammys> Taev: does the bug report say 'segfault'?
[10:48] <Taev> how do you know I don't have it?
[10:48] <Sagaci> Trying switching browsers
[10:48] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: all i can say is that i have to live with using Alt keys
[10:48] <maxwellian> Taev: Because you reinstalled, supposedly.  You woudln't have it by default.
[10:48] <codebrainz> bleah, i can only recommend using xawtv package to see if it works
[10:49] <Taev> ah
[10:49] <Taev> ok
[10:49] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, try reading the man pages might give you a clue and are you sing the default theme(s) or a metacity/ruby/cmpiz version try taking those off
[10:49] <maxwellian> Taev: But frankly I wouldn't at all be surprised if you do have it, and several other extensions, and neglected to mention it.
[10:49] <Taev> so how do I disable flash on firefox
[10:49] <eoke> Taev: Tools > Addons > Plugins
[10:49] <Sagaci> Taev: install wine and run IE6 through it. It may be better than your current situation
[10:49] <bleah> the webcam working , but the imge is upside down ... can xawtv help me to fix this problem ??
[10:49] <codebrainz> Taev, sudo apt-get install windows-xp-sp3
[10:49] <codebrainz> hahahaha
[10:50] <prince_jammys> Sagaci: come on.
[10:50] <codebrainz> bleah, worth a shot
[10:50] <Sagaci> Lol!
[10:50] <codebrainz> bleah, what eoke said should fix it though
[10:50] <Sagaci> stem
[10:50] <bleah> ok , i try
[10:51] <VilasBoas> hi i'm having problems with my lamp ubuntu 10.4 and Vhost
[10:51] <VilasBoas> i instaled drupal on /var/www/drupal-17/ but the vhost send it to /var/www/
[10:51] <VilasBoas> i already have DocumentRoot /var/www/drupal-6.17/ on the vosts but it seems to not be working
[10:51]  * Pirate_Hunter wonders if #ubuntu became a paid service how much he would get?
[10:51] <Taev> ok the list of plugs in i have is: Divx, GCJ web browser, gxine starter plugin, itunes app detector, quicktime, shockwave flash, totem web browser, vlc multimedia, windows media player plugin
[10:51] <codebrainz> Pirate_Hunter, 3.50
[10:51] <Sagaci> sudo apt-get install antivirusproXP2011-goldedition
[10:51] <maxwellian> Are those default plugins?
[10:51] <prince_jammys> VilasBoas: i recommend a more specific channel, like #drupal, or #httpd for apache.
[10:52] <Pirate_Hunter> codebrainz, hmmm I think definitely more than that
[10:52] <Taev> ok, disabling flash worked
[10:52] <Taev> its not crashing
[10:52] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: i did use compiz to have that very cool 3d cube effect thing. but i dont think i change the default theme in anwya
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> and people wonder why we 'LOVE' flash so much...
[10:52] <VilasBoas> prince_jammys ok
[10:52] <Taev> i seem to have 2 shockwave flash plugins
[10:52] <Taev> is that normal?
[10:52] <codebrainz> Pirate_Hunter, 4.50?  that's as high as i can go
[10:52] <Sagaci> Like having two heads
[10:53] <xiaogui> hi guys, does anyone know how to delete "Places" option in the menu bar of Ubuntu10.0.4,  leaving only "Applications " and "System" on the panel?
[10:53] <maxwellian> Taev: What are their names?
[10:53] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, try disabling compiz or any composite effect just for testing purposes
[10:53] <Taev> shockwave flash 9.0 r277, and shockwave flash movie player verison 0.4.12
[10:53] <Taev> i disabled them both
[10:53] <MikeChelen> xiaogui: right click and "edit menus"
[10:53] <Taev> im going to re-enable one
[10:53] <Pirate_Hunter> codebrainz, than I will refuse to give support on certain issues and only work half day on weekend you wont get any better than
[10:53] <Taev> ok when i re-enabled the shockwave flash movie player, it crashed
[10:53] <michal|3s> Pirate_Hunter: is it possible to just install on usb stick kernel + initrd + syslinux from ubuntu installer, and fetch all the rest from the network?
[10:53] <eoke> Taev: I'm not sure if it's a problem but I've only got the one entry myself.
[10:54] <maxwellian> Taev: Try switching to the other one.
[10:54] <Pirate_Hunter> Taev,  there is your problem keep flash off
[10:54] <Taev> ok it works fine as long as I don't have Shockwave Flash Movie Player enabled
[10:54] <Taev> so thats your solution, not use flash?
[10:54] <Taev> i guess thats not a bug, its a random programing feature
[10:55] <codebrainz> michal|3s, look for the hdd-image (i know debian has it)
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> Taev:  write a dirty letter to adobe. Its a bug in flash i would say
[10:55] <maxwellian> Taev: You disabled one, and you're using the other one?
[10:55] <Pirate_Hunter> michal|3s, dont think why not considering ubuntu supports network install however you may want to look into that as long as you can point it to the usb it shouldn't be a problem
[10:55] <codebrainz> michal|3s, then you just zcat it to the usb disk
[10:55] <Taev> shockwave flash 9.0 r277 enabled works and shockwave flash movie player verison 0.4.12 enabled crashes firefox
[10:55] <michal|3s> that would be idea (hdd-image)
[10:55] <Pirate_Hunter> michal|3s, by the way did you try plop did it work as it stated on the site at least did it detect the usb?
[10:55] <Taev> I didn't have this problem until I updated to 3.6.6.
[10:55] <maxwellian> Taev: Can you go to flash sites with the one you have?
[10:55] <Taev> give me a flash site
[10:55] <Taev> as a control
[10:55] <michal|3s> Pirate_Hunter: i get the same errors still
[10:55] <eoke> Taev: How did you install flash in the first place?
[10:56] <maxwellian> Taev: youtube.com
[10:56] <michal|3s> it 's not bootloader releated
[10:56] <Sagaci> Taev: live and learn
[10:56] <eoke> Taev: www.youtube.com
[10:56] <Taev> i had it installed since i installed the system
[10:56] <michal|3s> it fails much later
[10:56] <Taev> via synaptic
[10:56] <Pirate_Hunter> michal|3s, which error where you getting
[10:56] <Taev> as I said. the problem didn't start until i updated to 3.6.6.
[10:56] <eoke> Taev: Can you remember exactly which package you installed?
[10:56] <Taev> youtube.com works
[10:56] <Pirate_Hunter> Sgaci what was the problem?
[10:56] <Taev> flash-nonfree, something like that
[10:56] <maxwellian> Taev: Okay, so we learned a lot here.  First of all, there was not a problem with Firefox.
[10:57] <maxwellian> Taev: Isn't that amazing.
[10:57] <Taev> Oh so every thing working fine until I installed 3.6.6. doesn't matter at all
[10:57] <Pirate_Hunter> michal|3s, what is the error you're getting
[10:57] <eoke> Taev: That sounds about right I'm just not sure what the movie player plugin you had is or where it came from.
[10:57] <michal|3s> Pirate_Hunter: one second...
[10:57] <Taev> its got to be the flash plugin i installed 2 years ago
[10:57] <maxwellian> Taev: Yes, you have a two year old flash plugin.
[10:57] <Taev> never mind the fact that all this started when I updated to 3.6.6.
[10:58] <maxwellian> Taev: And a new flash plugin which probably came with 3.6.6.
[10:58] <Pirate_Hunter> Taev,  but you managed to not tell that to anyone
[10:58] <Taev> no one asked
[10:58] <Taev> if I knew it was a flash problem, i wouldn't have had to come here
[10:58] <Taev> would I?
[10:58] <maxwellian> Taev: No, you KNEW it was a Firefox problem.
[10:58] <Taev> it is a problem with firefox
[10:58] <Taev> Opera is working fine
[10:58] <prince_jammys> Taev: you should simply describe the problem.
[10:59] <codebrainz> Taev, wtf?  it shouldn't be this hard.  sudo rm -rf /home/you/.mozilla/plugins/* /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/* && apt-get --reinstall --purge install firefox flashplugin-nonfree
[10:59] <prince_jammys> Taev: you wasted much time because you were convinced that downgrading firefox was the solution
[10:59] <Taev> All the other browsers were working, I had made no changes to the system except updating to firefox 3.6.6, Occam's razor.
[10:59] <maxwellian> codebrainz: He's got it working.
[10:59] <tsooi> I fixed all my flash problems today ^^
[10:59] <Pirate_Hunter> codebrainz, relax problem solved end of it
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> tsooi:  purged flash eh? :)
[10:59] <Taev> and it would have worked
[11:00] <codebrainz> sorry, just read too much wasted time
[11:00] <Taev> since the last version of firefox worked
[11:00] <prince_jammys> Taev: Occam's razor my foot.
[11:00] <tsooi> Flash is finally working, in firefox and opera 10.60
[11:00]  * Dr_Willis shaves with occams razor
[11:00] <prince_jammys> waste 'o time because you think you know solutions when you don't
[11:00] <Dr_Willis> maxwellian:  i thought i saw a new flash in the updates also.
[11:00] <Taev> yeah the fact that the problem started when i installed firefox 3.6.6, that wouldn't lead anyone to believe it was the new firefox
[11:01] <Pirate_Hunter> codebrainz, and apparently you would pay 4.50 an hour for support hmmm I dont think it is worth it unless I get my demands
[11:01] <prince_jammys> Taev: now that you have firefox working, you can visit that nice link i left for you.
[11:01] <Taev> none of you knew the solution either.
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> i saw about 20 updates yesterday including firefox and flash
[11:01] <Taev> except whoever found that site
[11:01] <tsooi> I used a script on ubuntu forums, I think the script installed the 32bit adobe flash player, and removed some other stuff automatically
[11:01] <Taev> with the problem detailed on it
[11:01] <gryllida> Taev: I wasn't watching, sorry, how did you solve the issue? or didn't you? what did you try?
[11:01] <codebrainz> Pirate_Hunter, full dental, medical, 3 weeks vacation
[11:01] <maxwellian> Taev: That site was a coincidence.
[11:01] <eoke> Taev: Did you say you were on Ubuntu 8.10
[11:01] <Dalton> bonjour quelqu'un peut-il me dire comment joindre le reseaux de ubuntu en fr
[11:01] <prince_jammys> Taev:  solution to what? wasting too much time answering "how to downgrade firefox?" You didn't even give the reasons for this until _I_ extracted them from you.
[11:01] <Taev> that link you posted, those people had the same problem I had, they upgraded to 3.6.6. on Ubuntu 8.04
[11:02] <Taev> and sites with flash crashed firefox
[11:02] <gryllida> !fr | Dalton
[11:02] <Taev> so I disabled flash
[11:02] <prince_jammys> meh.
[11:02] <prince_jammys> lemme test this irc command here.
[11:02] <Taev> oh christ you asked me the same questions how many times
[11:02] <tsooi> I also use a flash blocker to not load all flash files, so I open flash files selectively.
[11:02] <codebrainz> Dalton, essayer #ubuntu-qc
[11:02] <oCean_> Taev: watch your language in this channel
[11:02] <gryllida> Taev: https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/The+Adobe+Flash+plugin+has+crashed
[11:02] <Pirate_Hunter> codebrainz, hmmm I lift one eyebrow that 3 week vacation does seem interesting but....
[11:02] <Taev> did I run firefox in the terminal, yes, did i run it in safe mode yes, what did it say, seg fault, do this purge, do this install -reinstall --purge
[11:02] <Taev> I did everything you asked, and answered every question
[11:03] <Taev> gryllida, solved it
[11:03] <codebrainz> Pirate_Hunter, we have a good coffee maker!?
[11:03] <gryllida> Taev: how?
[11:03]  * Dr_Willis fell asleep
[11:03] <Taev> that link
[11:03] <gryllida> what link?
[11:03] <Taev> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozilla-noscript/+bug/231769
[11:03] <gryllida> ok
[11:03] <prince_jammys> Taev: i never asked you the same question twice. i never suggested any of those things. i began to ask for symptoms, but you quickly reverted to "how do i downgrade firefox to a version that doesn't suck?"
[11:03] <Pirate_Hunter> codebrainz, you won me over :D but im joining the union just encase
[11:03] <maxwellian> gryllida: Please note that the bug is filed under NoScript.
[11:03] <gryllida> prince_jammys, Taev, issue solved, relax :)
[11:04] <Taev> i gave you the symptoms, firefox would crash saying segfault
[11:04] <prince_jammys> fooll
[11:04] <Taev> I can't give you any other symptoms if there aren't any
[11:04] <codebrainz> Pirate_Hunter, no dice, otherwise I'll outsource your ass in a hurry
[11:04] <oCean_> codebrainz: please stay on topic
[11:04] <eoke> Let's go back to loving one another, it's not worth arguing folks.
[11:04] <codebrainz> oCean_, yes mother
[11:04] <Taev> you had zero impact on solving this issue
[11:04] <Pirate_Hunter> people relax problem has been solved at least we learned an important lesson which has a good moral, I just can't think of it right now but it is there
[11:05] <Taev> it was gryllida, Pirate_Hunter, Dr_Willis and sorry if I forgot anyone
[11:05] <prince_jammys> the questioner didn't learn jack.
[11:05] <Pirate_Hunter> codebrainz, no union :( I will have to think about it
[11:05] <Taev> that I should have magically known that by firefox crashing and saying segfault that there is a bug with 3.6.6. + flash + ubuntu 8.04 ?
[11:06] <spiky_> Pirate_Hunter>keptme ammused
[11:06] <Taev> thats a bit of a stretch.
[11:06] <Pirate_Hunter> codebrainz, nah not worth it without the union and they are picky about their coffee
[11:06]  * Dr_Willis totally missed the 8.04 part
[11:06] <codebrainz> Pirate_Hunter, I've been censored ... /muted
[11:06] <oCean_> Pirate_Hunter: drop it, stay on topic
[11:06] <Taev> Bug 231769 to be exact.
[11:06] <maxwellian> Taev: That is NOT your bug.
[11:06] <gryllida> codebrainz: ?
[11:06] <Pirate_Hunter> spiky_, if your talking about the recent problem and not me being able to get away with an offtopic conversation than yeah it kept everyone amused
[11:07] <maxwellian> Taev: If nothing else, please do not go away thinking that is your bug.
[11:07] <michal|3s> Pirate_Hunter: interesting. i've put installer on the usb. it boots, says 'gfxmode unknown keyword' and the screen goes black
[11:07] <michal|3s> Pirate_Hunter: i can pres esc, and if i'm fast enough i can get the boot menu
[11:07] <Taev> so... ignoring the fact that those people had the same exact problem, with the same exact version of firefox, with the same exact version of ubuntu, and the same solution worked for me
[11:07] <Taev> Right I can see how that could mislead some one
[11:07] <michal|3s> Pirate_Hunter: than i have a choice. well, let's try 'live-install'
[11:07] <codebrainz> gryllida, this is the Canonical's support channel, yada yada
[11:08] <Pirate_Hunter> michal|3s, hmmm is that when using plop, f so you might want to search online or check if they got a forum and ask their
[11:08] <maxwellian> Taev: That bug was for NoScript, and extension which you don't have.
[11:08] <Taev> perhaps the bug is more inclusive that just having Noscript
[11:08] <xiaogui> Mikechelen: i still couldn't delete "Places". The main menu only has "Applications " and "System" options, since i can't even find the "Places" option, i failed to delete it. Sorry , i'm a newbie here...
[11:08] <michal|3s> Pirate_Hunter: nah, that's what i get using normal syslinux
[11:08] <maxwellian> Taev: Absolutely, that could be.  But you have no idea if that's the case.
[11:08] <maxwellian> Taev: It's those kinds of leaps in reasoning that have caused you so much trouble.
[11:08] <Taev> no what caused me the trouble was when adept updated to the new firefox
[11:09] <maxwellian> Taev: The fact is that you were trying to run a two-year-old version of Flash alongside a brand new one.
[11:09] <michal|3s> Pirate_Hunter: squashfs_error, etc
[11:09] <Taev> Im sure adept updated it
[11:09] <maxwellian> Taev: Yes, that's right.
[11:09] <Taev> and I did install the newest version of adobe flash 10 like that readme suggested
[11:10] <maxwellian> Taev: There's nothing wrong with having a new version of Flash.  There MAY be a problem with trying to simultaneously run a two-year-old version.
[11:10] <maxwellian> Taev: Does that part at least make sense?
[11:10] <Pirate_Hunter> michal|3s, weird I thought with plop if you're using it you wouldn't have needed syslinux etc to boot the usb it would've just picked up the iso file, hmmm tell me how it goes if you manage right a tutorial for me to follow, I'll bookmark it until I can get my hand on an old machine
[11:10] <Taev> I said I installed Flash 2 years ago. You know damn well adept package manager installs updates for your installed packages when they come out
[11:10] <gryllida> Taev, what did you do to solve the issue? Clean reinstall or something else?
[11:10] <Pirate_Hunter> michal|3s,  right > write
[11:10] <Taev> i disabled shockwave flash movie player
[11:11] <michal|3s> Pirate_Hunter: plop can pick iso?
[11:11] <codebrainz> michal|3s, have you checked your ISO?
[11:11] <michal|3s> nice
[11:11] <maxwellian> gryllida: He had two Flash plugins.
[11:11] <michal|3s> codebrainz: that's what i'm doing now
[11:11] <maxwellian> gryllida: He disabled the much older one.
[11:11] <Pirate_Hunter> michal|3s, it stated on the site it makes the usb pickup as a hd so I would've thought so
[11:11] <codebrainz> michal|3s, good choice, sounds fishy
[11:11] <maxwellian> Taev: I'm not blaming you for the way your machine was set up, you're right that it's supposed to keep itself updated.
[11:11] <gryllida> Taev: maxwellian: try to understand why it wasn't auto removed while installing the newer one, and don't worry about the other stuff.
[11:11] <Taev> No I had "shockwave flash 9.0 r277  and shockwave flash movie player verison 0.4.12 "
[11:12] <gryllida> Taev, now, try to understand why the older one wasn't removed when installing 9.0 version.
[11:12] <Pirate_Hunter> michal|3s, if it is fooling the machine to pick up the usb as a hd shouldn't it react like one? but than I ahvent tested it myself,
[11:12] <Crucible> Looking for help on an issue, had a 10.4 desktop running and encrypted two sata drives with the integrated disk manager, the HD running the desktop gave out and now I'm trying to figure out how to mount the 2 drives in my ubuntu server 10.4. Any help is greatly appreciated!
[11:12] <maxwellian> gryllida: How was he able to get 3.6.6 in the first place?
[11:12] <gryllida> IDK, never seen such phenomenon, though have taken 200+ support requests.
[11:12] <Taev> Adept
[11:12] <Taev> I regularly update my system.
[11:13] <gryllida> maxwellian: from the repo? spt-get update firefox
[11:13] <gryllida> 3.6.6 is in there already
[11:13] <michal|3s> E:\>openssl md5 ubuntu-10.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[11:13] <michal|3s> MD5(ubuntu-10.04-desktop-amd64.iso)= 3e0f72becd63cad79bf784ac2b34b448
[11:13] <maxwellian> gryllida: He's running 8.04.
[11:13] <codebrainz> Taev, which ubuntu version again?
[11:13] <michal|3s> 3e0f72becd63cad79bf784ac2b34b448
[11:13] <michal|3s> ubuntu-10.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[11:13] <michal|3s> (from the site)
[11:13] <gryllida> maxwellian: whihc is same repo, isn't it?
[11:13] <michal|3s> seems to be ok :)
[11:13] <FloodBot1> michal|3s: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:13] <eoke> Crucible: What do you mean by integrated disk manager?
[11:13] <DJ_BqlGazaRrR> hello friends
[11:13] <prince_jammys> maxwellian: maybe by screwing with sources.list
[11:14] <Pirate_Hunter> maxehow can they be running 8.04 are you saying backports is enabled?
[11:14] <DJ_BqlGazaRrR> can anyone help me
[11:14] <michal|3s> codebrainz: so my iso looks ok
[11:14] <gryllida> hi DJ_BqlGazaRrR
[11:14] <gryllida> DJ_BqlGazaRrR, help with what?
[11:14] <Crucible> the disk manager that comes bundled with the ubuntu desktop
[11:14] <gryllida> !md5 > michal|3s
[11:14] <DJ_BqlGazaRrR> i want to remove graphic manager from my ubuntu 10.04
[11:14] <codebrainz> michal|3s, did you do a md5sum -c on it?
[11:14] <Taev> so how do I fix the issue with Shockwave Flash Movie player?
[11:14] <maxwellian> Pirate_Hunter: I'm not saying anything of the sort.
[11:14] <DJ_BqlGazaRrR> i want only console mod for my web server, How to?
[11:14] <maxwellian> Taev: You can watch flash, right?
[11:14] <Taev> or do I just not use it until they come out with a new version of firefox
[11:14] <michal|3s> codebrainz: openssl md5 (it is windows ;)
[11:14] <gryllida> Taev: just remove the older one, its path should be seen at about:plugins
[11:14] <maxwellian> Taev: Did you watch a Youtube video?
[11:14] <DJ_BqlGazaRrR> apt-get --purge remove gdm?
[11:15] <joshmuffin> sdoin
[11:15] <codebrainz> DJ_BqlGazaRrR, easiest is to use the server or alternate CD to install a cli only version
[11:15] <Taev> they are 2 separate plugins gryllida
[11:15] <codebrainz> michal|3s, i have no idea about windows
[11:15] <michal|3s> codebrainz: well, openssl works great here
[11:15] <gryllida> Taev: get rid of the older one, find its path at about:plugins
[11:15] <Taev> "hockwave flash 9.0 r277  and shockwave flash movie player verison 0.4.12 "
[11:15] <maxwellian> gryllida: He's already disabled it, why take it any further?
[11:15] <gryllida> Taev: "about:plugins" is an URL
[11:15] <Taev> There is no "older" one, they are 2 separate plugins
[11:15] <codebrainz> michal|3s, if you have a *real* shell, it shouldn't matter
[11:15] <michal|3s> codebrainz: i think i will md5 check the squashfs on the pendrive vs the one from iso
[11:16] <gryllida> maxwellian: he's having it disabled, obviously wants to uninstall, as I see from the lines I am getting.
[11:16] <maxwellian> Taev: Before you do anything, can you watch a Youtube video?
[11:16] <codebrainz> michal|3s, md5sum -c will verify the iso you downloaded isn't corrupt compared to the file on the server
[11:16] <gryllida> Taev: maxwellian means, could you test that your flash is working ok now?
[11:16] <codebrainz> michal|3s, the .iso contains the squashfs root filesystem
[11:16] <DJ_BqlGazaRrR> hm if i reinstal my ubuntu i will lost my works
[11:16] <michal|3s> codebrainz: yes, and the md5 says my iso is ok
[11:17] <Crucible> eoke, the disk manager that comes bundled with the ubuntu desktop
[11:17] <michal|3s> codebrainz: but than during boot i get info about squashfs corrupted
[11:17] <Taev> No.
[11:17] <Taev> the video just stays black
[11:17] <codebrainz> michal|3s, might be worth doing a   'badblocks /dev/YourBootDisk'
[11:17] <maxwellian> Taev: Okay, so the only thing that's better now is that it's not crashing?
[11:18] <Taev> it says you need to update adobe
[11:18] <Taev> i already did
[11:18] <Ek|mu5> Hello all, quick question: What's better (all things considered) to parse files of uniform format in C++, using the byte stream via pointer arithmetic or regular expressions?
[11:18] <Pirate_Hunter> michal|3s, im going away for a bit be back in 30min or so
[11:18] <Taev> i have adobe flash 10
[11:18] <Pirate_Hunter> Taev, at least you solved one problem
[11:19] <dreamer> ello
[11:19] <eoke> Crucible: You can try to mount it with "cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdxy /dev/mapper/enctemp" then "mkdir ~/enctemp" then "mount /dev/mapper/enctemp ~/enctemp"
[11:19] <michal|3s> codebrainz: ha! squashfs on the pendrive and iso is different!
[11:19] <codebrainz> Ek|mu5, it's SO off topic, but best is a lib that can parse your type of files :)
[11:19] <eoke> Crucible: Remember to change /dev/sdxy as appropriate to the disk that's encrypted.
[11:19] <maxwellian> Taev: From the plugins you listed earlier, you have Flash 9.0
[11:19] <ubuntufreak> I would like to install Ubuntu 10.04 freshly in a 500GB hard drive, how should i go with the partition since i indent to use few vm's inside Ubuntu ?
[11:20] <Machina> wondering on how can I see my real ip if i'm using a public wireless network without using a web site like "myrealip" ? P.S:ifconfig won't show it to me...
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> ubuntufreak:  this is only a ubuntu system? on a single 500gb hd?
[11:20] <codebrainz> michal|3s, michal|3s are you just tring to install from a pendrive?
[11:20] <student> 安靜啦！
[11:20] <kevin_> Machina : ifconfig in terminal
[11:20] <dreamer> How to install aircrack-ng on ubuntu
[11:20] <student> 5415645465465465165164
[11:20] <student> 546+54564r65y4r465ry r
[11:20] <student> yr
[11:20] <student> t yr
[11:20] <FloodBot1> student: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:20] <student> y
[11:20] <student> rty
[11:20] <student> rty
[11:20] <maxwellian> kevin_: They just said that didn't work.
[11:20] <codebrainz> student, i understand completely
[11:20] <joshmuffin> sudo apt-get install aircrack-ng, dreamer
[11:21] <kevin_> ah :D
[11:21] <joshmuffin> !enter | student
[11:21] <kevin_> how not ?:P
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> dreamer:  use the pacakge manager search for aircrack. and install it.
[11:21] <eoke> Machina: You don't think you'll be able to unless you use a third party site or have access to the routers nat table.
[11:21] <Machina> kevin_, I did but it doesn't give me my real ip.
[11:21] <kevin_> Your external IP or internal ?
[11:21] <codebrainz> joshmuffin, do the chinese one
[11:21] <Machina> eoke, thank's m8
[11:21] <maxwellian> kevin_: She's behind NAT.
[11:21] <MikeChelen> xiaogui: hmm yeah, that seems to work only for applications and system menus
[11:21] <maxwellian> Taev: Still with me?
[11:21] <joshmuffin> codebrainz,
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> !info apt-cache
[11:21] <joshmuffin> codebrainz, what chineese what
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> !info aircrack-ng
[11:21] <ubuntufreak> Dr_Willis: Yes its only a Ubuntu system
[11:21] <dreamer> thanks joshmuffin
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> ubuntufreak:  normaly way i do it. 4 primary partuituions -->  (/boot) (/) (/home) and (swap)
[11:22] <codebrainz> joshmuffin, whatever the ubottu thing for the alt/lang channels :)
[11:22] <alex88> hi guys, i've read the licensing page. But i cannot be sure of this. Is ubuntu usable for commercial use? I mean in a company.
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> ubuntufreak:  a /boot is handy and /home partition is VERY VERY handy
[11:22] <Ek|mu5> codebrainz, Sorry 'bout the OT, mind if I PM you?
[11:22] <joshmuffin> !women | codebrainz
[11:22] <joshmuffin> lol
[11:22] <joshmuffin> women
[11:22] <neurochrome> hey folks, is there a way to popup an alert to another machine running x via ssh?
[11:22] <Taev> the plugin thats malfunctioning is not adobe, its gplflash.sf.net
[11:23] <MikeChelen> xiaogui: try removing the main menu applet, and add menu bar applet instead - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=333999
[11:23] <codebrainz> joshmuffin, not what I meant :)
[11:23] <maxwellian> Taev: gplflash.sh.net, what is that?
[11:23] <joshmuffin> !chinese
[11:23] <joshmuffin> ?
[11:23] <ohir> alex88: yes you can use
[11:23] <maxwellian> Taev: That's where you got the other plugin?
[11:23] <codebrainz> Ek|mu5, you could probably ask here, lots of experts
[11:23] <ubuntufreak> Dr_Willis: So how should i go with the sizes for each partition and is it in the same order as you have mentioned ?
[11:23] <alex88> ohir: thank you, and use all repositories?
[11:23] <oCean_> joshmuffin: don't abuse the bot
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> neurochrome:  there might be some ways. but that would be a bit of a security issue. so a lot of times the ways to do it are locked down.
[11:23] <codebrainz> joshmuffin, yes, that's it :)
[11:23] <Taev> i downloaded the newest version but when i ./configure i get error can not find X11 development files
[11:23] <freedom> hi for every body may some help
[11:23] <joshmuffin> codebrainz, why couldnt you do it yourself?
[11:23] <ohir> alex88: yes.
[11:23] <freedom> plz
[11:23] <neurochrome> Dr_Willis, I mean a machine that you are already logged into via ssh
[11:23] <alex88> ohir: thank you :)
[11:23] <joshmuffin> !botabuse | joshmuffin
[11:24] <codebrainz> joshmuffin, robots don't get along so well
[11:24] <joshmuffin> ya idiot
[11:24] <freedom> how to upgrade my wireless driver
[11:24] <Dr_Willis> ubuntufreak:  depends on your needs - I use like 20-30gb for /  512min for swap.  2gb for /boot (because i keep iso files there and have grub boot them as a rescue option) and rest for /home
[11:24] <michal|3s> codebrainz: wow. copied (by hand) squashfs onthe pendrive and it started
[11:24] <freedom> i have iwl3945
[11:24] <oCean_> freedom: just describe your issue in the channel (detailed, try to keep in one single line)
[11:24] <Dr_Willis> ubuntufreak:  you may not evne want a /boot/
[11:24] <maxwellian> Taev: Can you explain the gplflash thing first?
[11:24] <neurochrome> Dr_Willis, I want to popup a message for my gf ;)
[11:24] <maxwellian> Taev: Is that a website you went to?
[11:24] <alex88> Dr_Willis: so you can boot a live cd from grub?
[11:24] <codebrainz> michal|3s, good stuff...
[11:24] <Taev> no
[11:24] <freedom> aaaa how?
[11:24] <Dr_Willis> neurochrome:  theres some samba tool that can do that. but i cant recall its name. its not installed by default.
[11:24] <freedom> i'm anew in ubuntu
[11:24] <Taev> I install everything from synaptic
[11:24] <Ek|mu5> codebrainz, yeah, doing a little port from native C to C++/CLI. Parsing algo already exists in the byte stream pointer arithmetic method. Was wondering if changing to regex is better performance and readability wise
[11:24] <Dr_Willis> neurochrome:  use 'beep' and make the pc beep out morse code.
[11:25] <vishnu> hi,i have installed ubuntu inside windows and have all my files and folders here... now, i want to install UBUNTU fully... but i want my files and folders in virtual to shift to the real one.. how can i do that.. plz help..
[11:25] <codebrainz> Ek|mu5, ok, pm me
[11:25] <ubuntufreak> Dr_Willis: Whats the advantage of having a separate /boot ?
[11:25] <ohir> alex88: you can use it as long as you do not try to hide source code of something that tou lifted from linux (or other GPL licensed apps)
[11:25] <Dr_Willis> neurochrome:  or record your voice and send it to her speakers
[11:25] <joshmuffin> !women | shouldnt-they-be-in-the-kitchen
[11:25] <freedom> i'm new in ubuntu can you tell more how where to go
[11:25] <neurochrome> Dr_Willis, lol, if she knew morse that'd be ideal!
[11:25] <maxwellian> Taev: Okay, so why did you mention that url?
[11:25] <Dr_Willis> ubuntufreak:  i keep iso files there for a rescue boot. and grub wont  vanish if i delete the ubuntu partitions
[11:25] <alex88> ohir: np, i'll use it only for internet navigation and to run virtualized application on the server
[11:25] <oCean_> Ek|mu5: maybe you should find a more appropriate channel for asking programming questions
[11:25] <maxwellian> Taev: Is that the name of the bad version in Synaptic?
[11:25] <Dr_Willis> ubuntufreak:  i set up a grub entry to boot the ubuntu.iso friom grub as a 'emergancy rescue mode' :)
[11:26] <ohir> alex88: in which case and at this very moment you lose your licensee rights
[11:26] <freedom> ??????????
[11:26] <Taev> because the plug in thats causing firefox to crash's homepage is gplflash.sf.net
[11:26] <Taev> its a SWF player
[11:26] <alex88> ohir: what you mean?
[11:26] <ohir> alex88: its perfect valid use
[11:26] <freedom> o.k. thanx
[11:26] <Taev> they ahve something to do with gnash
[11:26] <Taev> and i have gnash installed
[11:26] <ubuntufreak> Dr_Willis: That is in case if your Ubuntu system breaks right ?
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> Taev:  you dont want gnash and flash both installed normally
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> ubuntufreak:  yep. or i want to test out some live cd's
[11:26] <neurochrome> Dr_Willis, is there a way to remotely make use of the notifications system?
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> neurochrome:  not that ive noticed. there might be. but ive never tried it
[11:27] <superikaro> hi, im having a problem with my laptop, its heat a lot, more than when i use windows vista, i guess, coolers are not working. thanks
[11:27] <Ek|mu5> oCean_, clue-by-for me please
[11:27] <neurochrome> Dr_Willis, k
[11:27] <alex88> ohir: oh good.. i just have to find a software that permit to run office on the server and put the window of it on remote pc
[11:27] <kleopatra> hi, how could i encrypt my harddrive most easy way?
[11:27] <student> kjiij
[11:27] <ohir> alex88: you are free to use GPL software, you are free to improve it or write your apps basing on other GPL source. You just can not hide source.
[11:27] <Ek|mu5> oCean_, clue-by-four me please
[11:27] <vishnu> hi,i have installed ubuntu inside windows and have all my files and folders here... now, i want to install UBUNTU fully... but i want my files and folders in virtual to shift to the real one.. how can i do that.. plz help..
[11:27] <joshmuffin> !womensrights
[11:27] <Taev> ok im removing gnash
[11:27] <EricFisher> Hello, does irc.ubunbu.com and irc.freenode.com refer to same one? I created the channel on irc.ubuntu.com. I'm not sure if it is refer to freenode. But I can join the channel on webcat.freenode.net. But on ubuntu machine, I must use the server irc.ubuntu.com instead of irc.freenode.com. I'm confused by these.
[11:27] <ohir> alex88: so ubuntu is good choice. It comes with anything SOHO might need
 Sorry, I don't know anything about womensrights
[11:27] <maxwellian> Taev: Do you remember installing gnash in the first place?
[11:27] <oCean_> joshmuffin: stop abusing the bot
[11:28] <student> edkkdjgkdfg
[11:28] <joshmuffin> make me
[11:28] <vishnu> plz somebody offer a solution
[11:28] <student> 疵
[11:28] <joshmuffin> !botabuse | joshmuffin
[11:28] <oCean_> student: do you have a technical question for the ubuntu channel?
[11:28] <alex88> ohir: right, and i'm friendly with ubuntu server so i can easly remote control those pc for assistance
[11:28] <student> 這是啥@@？
[11:28] <alex88> and configure the server with ubuntu server
[11:28] <ohir> alex88: yes.
[11:28] <Taev> yeah i installed it as part of 1 of the solutions on that bug page
[11:28] <ubuntufreak> Dr_Willis: That sounds cool too, may be i could go with 4gb-/boot, 40gb-/, 8gb-swap, remaining-/home will that be good ?
[11:28] <joshmuffin> !chinese | student
[11:28] <Taev> i just removed it, apparently it doesn't have anything to do with the SWF Player plugin i have installed
[11:28] <Taev> that gplflash
[11:29] <maxwellian> Taev: Okay, that's good to know.
[11:29] <vishnu> Dr_Willis, hi,i have installed ubuntu inside windows and have all my files and folders here... now, i want to install UBUNTU fully... but i want my files and folders in virtual to shift to the real one.. how can i do that.. plz help..
[11:29] <superikaro> hi, im having a problem with my laptop, its heat a lot, more than when i use windows vista, i guess, coolers are not working. thanks
[11:29] <maxwellian> Taev: Do you remember when you got that gplflash thing?
[11:29] <Taev> and i cant install the newest version of gplflash because it gives me an error when i ./configure it
[11:29] <Taev> can't find X11 development files
[11:29] <Taev> No.
[11:29] <Taev> but i installed it through synaptic
[11:29] <alex88> ohir: thank you for your help..gtg now.. have a nice time :)
[11:29] <maxwellian> Taev: The whole ./configure business is for installing from source.
[11:29] <PiKeyPL> superikaro:  Try to read about laptop-mode. It could help. What's Your laptop model?
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> vishnu:  ive seen guides on converting a wubi install to a normal install.. but ive never used wubi. so dont know anything about doing it.
[11:30] <maxwellian> Taev: You don't want to do that unless you have to.
[11:30] <maxwellian> Taev: Usually, the packages you get through Synaptic are fine.
[11:30] <Taev> GPL Flash (SWF) Library - shared library
[11:30] <Taev> thats it
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> ubuntufreak:  you need 8gb swap? :) if you are going to use hibernate/suspend you want swap = at least your ram.
[11:30] <superikaro> PiKeyPL, m505-s4945 toshiba satellite
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> Taev:  ./configure? You are trying to compuild gplflash?
[11:30] <maxwellian> Taev: K, hold on, let me look that up.
[11:30] <vishnu> Dr_Willis, oh ok ok.. do u hav any idea of whom should i contact to get a solution in this regard??
[11:31] <ubuntufreak> Dr_Willis: I have 4GB ram so i thought double of it would do good
[11:31] <Taev> yeah i was trying to install the newest version of gplflash
[11:31] <Taev> i thought that might fix the problem
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> vishnu:  ive seen guides when i googled on wubi ages ago about scripts/ways to convert a wubi install to a full install.  check google and the fourms. i would suggest you use the wubi setip and Backup anything imporntant FIRST befor you mess with it
[11:31] <student> 有人會講國語嗎？
[11:31] <EricFisher> 我会
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> vishnu:  i think its also possible to do a normal install. Then access the files on teh wubi install. but ive never done that either
[11:31] <psycho_oreos> !cn | student
[11:32] <joshmuffin> !chinese | student
[11:32] <student> 這是啥？
[11:32] <joshmuffin> !chinese | ericfisher
[11:32] <vishnu> Dr_Willis, hmmm.. ok,,, thanks 4 d reply
[11:32] <student> 聊天室啊？
[11:32] <abhi_nav>  hi vishnu
[11:32] <maxwellian> Taev: Okay, so the gplflash is an open source effort to play Flash movies.
[11:33] <vishnu> ahi_nav, hi abhinav., i need a help frm u abt wubi installation
[11:33] <abhi_nav> !tab | vishnu
[11:33] <maxwellian> Taev: But you already have the Flash player, so you don't need it.
[11:33] <vishnu> ubottu, yeah.. i m familiar wid it.., dude :)
[11:34] <maxwellian> Taev: gplflash or gnash are for people who don't want to use Adobe Flash.
[11:34] <neurochrome> Dr_Willis, I think I can utilise notify-send to do this... ;)
[11:34] <Taev> alright ill uninstall it
[11:34] <vishnu> abhi_nav, hi,i have installed ubuntu inside windows and have all my files and folders here... now, i want to install UBUNTU fully... but i want my files and folders in virtual to shift to the real one.. how can i do that.. plz help..
[11:34] <abhi_nav> vishnu, whats the issue? and btw ubottu is not dude its 'she'
[11:34] <maxwellian> Taev: Thanks.
[11:34] <abhi_nav> vishnu, wait
[11:34] <vishnu> abhi_nav, oh i guessed the other way :).. sorry !
[11:34] <codebrainz> Error: I am only a rot, please don't think I'm counter intelligence. :(
[11:35] <vishnu> abhi_nav, ok
[11:35] <Vbitz> http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?p=23099897 not my post by the way
[11:35] <superikaro> PiKeyPL, m505-s4945 toshiba satellite
[11:35] <superikaro> PiKeyPL, m505-s4945 toshiba satellite
[11:35] <student> .
[11:35] <Vbitz> why would this be happening
[11:35] <Taev> everything works perfectly now
[11:35] <maxwellian> Taev: Really?  You can play movies?
[11:35] <Taev> apparently the version I had has a bug with firefox 3.6.6. when its installed with adobe's flash
[11:35] <PiKeyPL> superikaro: I don't know anything about this model.
[11:35] <codebrainz> Taev, BACKUP NOW!!!
[11:35] <Taev> yeah
[11:36] <maxwellian> Taev: Awesome.
[11:36] <abhi_nav> vishnu, just back it in your pen drive?
[11:36] <ubuntufreak> Dr_Willis, Can i partition based on this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DiskSpace#Separate%20/boot ?
[11:36] <Taev> yeah apparently it wasn't an issue until i updated to 3.6.6
[11:36] <raven_> waltop tablet: cursor does not move any more after tapping with the pen - any ideas?
[11:36] <Taev> 3.6.6. didn't like having 2 SWF players
[11:36] <Taev> and crashed when ever one was engaged
[11:36] <superikaro> PiKeyPL, thanks
[11:36] <superikaro> hi, im having a problem with my laptop, its heat a lot, more than when i use windows vista, i guess, coolers are not working. thanks
[11:36] <vishnu> abhi_nav, is there any better alternative.. i want my packages too...
[11:36] <maxwellian> Taev: 3.6.6 probably brought a newer Adobe too.
[11:37] <Taev> well Im just happy its working now
[11:37] <maxwellian> Taev: Me too.
[11:37] <firestorm> Hi. I don't have opengl on my display. I also don't have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf where I can add gl to be loaded. My graphics is i915 and I'm running 10.04. Any guidance?
[11:37] <maxwellian> Taev: For future reference, I made a lot of assumptions in this process.
[11:37] <Taev> I, however, am unhappy that I smoked all my cigarettes because I was so aggravated.
[11:37] <Taev> lol.
[11:37] <vishnu> abhi_nav, i can back my files.. but packages?? how to go about?
[11:37] <codebrainz> superikaro, ask about cpufreq and acpi
[11:37] <maxwellian> Taev: I assumed you were using latest Ubuntu, and I assumed Firefox was crashing when you started up.
[11:38] <maxwellian> Taev: It turned out to be important that those assumptions were wrong.
[11:38] <abhi_nav> !apton | vishnu
[11:38] <hp> kaka
[11:38] <prince_jammys> !clone | vishnu
[11:38] <abhi_nav> !aptoncd | vishnu
[11:38] <hp> xoxokaka
[11:38] <oCean_> hp: what is your issue?
[11:38] <maxwellian> Taev: So next time you have a question, try to give as much information as possible right away.
[11:39] <maxwellian> Taev: The thing about not crashing right away was critical to helping with the Flash problem.
[11:39] <sabat> wtf was that? [the hp guy]
[11:39] <vishnu> ubottu, thank u...
[11:39] <neurochrome> Dr_Willis, if you're interested (for future reference) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1240828
[11:39] <Taev> well I thought I was being clear.
[11:39] <Taev> guess not
[11:39] <Taev> thanks
[11:39] <Taev> adios.
[11:39] <FloodBot1> Taev: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:39] <abhi_nav> !msg ubottu !bot
[11:39] <codebrainz> sabat, it means live decent and roster
[11:39] <abhi_nav> !bot > vishnu
[11:40] <oCean_> sabat: never mind that. Also, watch your language, even if abbreviated
[11:40]  * maxwellian collapses, exhausted
[11:40] <spiky_> maxwellian: lol
[11:40]  * abhi_nav expressing sympathy towards maxwellian 
[11:40] <Alcohol52> !automate
[11:41] <maxwellian> That was really something.
[11:41] <codebrainz> maxwellian, I'm raising your salary to $4.45CAD
[11:41] <Alcohol52> !offline
[11:41] <firestorm>  don't have opengl on my display. I also don't have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf where I can add gl to be loaded. My graphics is i915 and I'm running 10.04. Any guidance?
[11:41] <spiky_> codebrainz: plus some Vallium
[11:42] <codebrainz> spiky_, it's not in the contract
[11:42] <maxwellian> codebrainz: I...I don't know what to say...
[11:42] <oCean_> codebrainz: again, please stay on topic
[11:42] <Alcohol52> !aptoncd
[11:42] <oCean_> Alcohol52: pleae use "/msg ubottu factoid" to search/browse ubottu's factoids
[11:42] <prince_jammys> Alcohol52: /msg ubottu SomeKeyword
[11:42]  * codebrainz is censored willingly
[11:43] <maxwellian> oCean_: The topic is recovering from a very trying troubleshooting session.
[11:43] <michal|3s> codebrainz Pirate_Hunter - ubuntu desktop working great now. somehow the usb creator had problems with copying squashfs to the pendrive (did it myself, worked). thx for your help and inspiration! :)
[11:43] <michal|3s> hm, that zotac thing is noisy
[11:43] <oCean_> maxwellian: you're welcome to do so in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:43] <michal|3s> my dell t105 serwer filled up with disks is quieter
[11:44] <codebrainz> michal|3s, any time
[11:45] <raven_> waltop tablet: cursor does not move any more after tapping with the pen - any ideas?
[11:46] <student> ㄋ
[11:46] <codebrainz> raven_, sure it's not a wacom tablet?
[11:47] <raven_> codebrainz, lsusb says waltop
[11:47] <alexandre_> sa sert a koi sa ?
[11:47] <oCean_> !fr | alexandre_
[11:47] <codebrainz> raven_, have no idea really, but i've had some wacom tablets that work well
[11:48] <codebrainz> that's not even french really is it?
[11:49] <raven_> codebrainz, iit worked when i installed it manually before 9.10. but now after one click with the pen it seems not to be released again
[11:49] <codebrainz> raven_, I'm not certain, but it's to do with xorg-input, if that helps to do with your queries
[11:50] <raven_> codebrainz, how to solve with xorg?
[11:50] <codebrainz> raven_, can't really help, but the configuration file is at /etc/X11/xorg.conf, google might help more :)
[11:53] <freedom> o.k. friends so what's new in ubuntu 10.4
[11:53] <abhi_nav> version
[11:53] <freedom> ihow to use the open surce
[11:53] <oCean_> freedom: do you have a technical issue? Other discussions in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:54] <freedom> i i don't understand that
[11:54] <freedom> so i let it
[11:54] <freedom> lit
[11:54] <raven_> codebrainz, that is nearly what the issue is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xf86-input-wacom/+bug/569294
[11:54] <abhi_nav> !ot > freedom
[11:54] <Pirate_Hunter> what is the site for todays log?
[11:54] <freedom> i hope some day i will finish that
[11:55] <freedom> because i hit microsoft
[11:55] <freedom> i wanna to lef them
[11:55] <oCean_> Pirate_Hunter: what logs ?
[11:55] <oCean_> freedom: stop please!
[11:55] <freedom> yet in ubuntu i have just problems
[11:55] <freedom> but i belive i will
[11:55] <oCean_> freedom: describe your issue to the channel
[11:56] <freedom> finish all
[11:56] <freedom> how
[11:56] <oCean_> freedom: STOP
[11:56] <Pirate_Hunter> oCean_, channel logs I forgot the url
[11:56] <oCean_> Pirate_Hunter: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[11:56] <MikeChelen> !offtopic | freedom
[11:57] <abhi_nav> !logs
[11:57] <abhi_nav> Pirate_Hunter, ^^
[11:57] <student> We Bai Bai ~
[12:00] <xiaogui> MikeChelen: 1st, Thanks for your help. But i still couldn't hide "Places" option. Yes, when i click add to Panel button,  there're Main Menu and Menu bar where it has "Applications" , "Places" and "System", but i still haven't figured out how to hide "Places" in the Menu bar, leaving only "Applications"  and "System"
[12:02] <jiang> Hi Hello!
[12:03] <xiaogui> But if i use Main Menu, then all the options including "Applications " and "System" will be under one column which won't show until i click the ubuntn icon.
[12:03] <maxwellian> !hello | jiang
[12:03] <Pirate_Hunter> thanks oCean_  abhi_nav
[12:03] <abhi_nav> ohhh yah ok Pirate_Hunter
[12:04] <MikeChelen> xiaogui: oh hmm, i see what you mean
[12:04] <raven_> how to save alsamixer seettings?
[12:05] <xiaogui> :) hehe...
[12:05] <xiaogui> I doubt if it's possible for me to delete the "Places" button...
[12:06] <GArReT> Hey peepz... I'm new to ubuntu... But where do i find the excutable and configure files if i've downloaded and installed something via the package manager?
[12:06] <MikeChelen> xiaogui: it seems not without keeping the rest of the menu the same
[12:07] <airtonix> GArReT, locate <name-of-program>
[12:07] <MikeChelen> err *while keeping the rest the same
[12:07] <abhi_nav> this is not your answer but as you said new to ubuntu, read this:
[12:07] <abhi_nav> !manual > GArReT
[12:08] <GArReT> Thank you abatoo :)
[12:08] <oCean_> GArReT: if you want to list all files in a package, use: dpkg -L <packagename"
[12:09] <airtonix> GArReT, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=182201
[12:09] <airtonix> ^ first result.
[12:10] <xiaogui> :(  I prefer to put "Computer" icon where i can find all my files on desktop. That's the why i don't wanna "Places" in the Menu bar. But many thanks still, thanks for all your efforts. :D
[12:14] <MaT-dg> is it possible to send or recieve a bluetooth audio stream?
[12:19] <maxwellian> MaT-dg: It's probably possible, never tried it.  Have you searched Google?
[12:22] <fedeviola> hi there
[12:22] <fedeviola> how I take a screenshot?
[12:22] <spiky_> fedeviola: print screen
[12:23] <abhi_nav> alt +printscreen
[12:23] <opij> what are the services that are running that causes ubuntu to take up 400mb of RAM while idle?
[12:23] <opij> and how can i reduce them?
[12:23] <NigelS> fedeviola, or Applications-->Accessories-->Take Screenshot for more options
[12:24] <IStorm> Yea, opij, that's what I'd like to know as well, though I installed xubuntu to begin with.
[12:24] <fedeviola> thanks!!
[12:24] <maxwellian> MaT-dg: Check out www.bluez.org
[12:25] <bcuraboy> evora
[12:25] <maxwellian> MaT-dg: And in Synaptic, download the 'bluetooth' package.  It will get you the software you need, which has some documentation on www.bluez.org.
[12:25] <kevinphp> anybody has a gedit-folding plugin?
[12:25] <maxwellian> MaT-dg: Sorry I don't know more about it.
[12:25] <wolfie_> Hello
[12:25] <bcuraboy> oi
[12:25] <bcuraboy> hi
[12:25] <kevinphp> hi
[12:26] <erry> Can you help me get a WPN111 card work?
[12:26] <wolfie_> Anyone know how I can get .exe's to work
[12:26] <erry> It recof
[12:26] <erry> recognises the device, lists networks, but won't get an IP
[12:26] <opij> wolfie_: try wine
[12:26] <erry> :(
[12:26] <maxwellian> !wine | wolfie_
[12:26] <wolfie_> wine won't work.
[12:27] <maxwellian> wolfie_: Why not?
[12:27] <kevinphp> maybe you need some dlls
[12:27] <IStorm> wolfie_ : Were they written for Linux or Windows?
[12:27] <wolfie_> Windows.
[12:27] <abhi_nav> ??????
[12:27] <opij> ?
[12:27] <abhi_nav> .exe is written for win only? or not?
[12:28] <opij> yeah, i thought .exe was windows only
[12:28] <maxwellian> abhi_nav: There's nothing preventing someone from creating a Linux program with a .exe extension.
[12:28] <IStorm> Wolfie_: my advice is to get a pc, and install windows on it.
[12:28] <wolfie_> God dammit
[12:28] <erry> hello/? :(
[12:28] <IStorm> It happens
[12:28] <maxwellian> abhi_nav: I've never seen it, but I guess it's possible. :P
[12:28] <maxwellian> wolfie_: Why dosn't WINE work?
[12:29] <abhi_nav> maxwellian, I dont think. apart from legal issue there is compatibility issue.
[12:29] <wolfie_> Error messadges
[12:29] <wolfie_> I try to run a program and i get hit with a bunch of error messages
[12:29] <maxwellian> wolfie_: Have you looked up that program on the Wine page?
[12:30] <oCean_> wolfie_: watch your language in this channel please
[12:30] <wolfie_> Yes and it says its compatable.
[12:30] <opij> wolfie_: if there's a bunch of error messages, i would google them, and/or post them on a forum and/or pastebin them here
[12:30] <IStorm> Emulation is dicey at best, and you'll ALWAYS be burning extra machine code and RAM in the process.
[12:31] <maxwellian> wolfie_: What are you trying to run?
[12:31] <MaT-dg> maxwellian: searched google but no luck so far, I'll check out bluez thx
[12:31] <abhi_nav> maxwellian, if it was possible there could not be any need for 'wine'?
[12:31] <wolfie_> Alright then I'll see if there are an other updates for wine that i haven't installed
[12:31] <wolfie_> see ya
[12:31] <maxwellian> abhi_nav: Certainly, programs compiled for Windows will not run on Linux by themselves.
[12:31] <abhi_nav> hmm
[12:32] <opij> why is the total number of nicks here so low?
[12:32] <IStorm> wolfie_ : Is it some small utility, or are you trying to run a game or something serious like that?
[12:32] <maxwellian> abhi_nav: I can easily create a Linux program with an extension .exe, though.
[12:32] <biopyte> how can i get rid of "plugin-container", once and forever? this piece of crap is eating up the CPU.
[12:32] <maxwellian> abhi_nav: Or he might have just been referring to how to run executable programs on Linux in general.
[12:32] <abhi_nav> maxwellian, i m not getting your point
[12:33] <syssan> Is there a way to change the remote desktop-password from the terminal?
[12:33] <maxwellian> abhi_nav: I made the same assumption you did, but IStorm did ask a valid question.
[12:33] <abhi_nav> may be
[12:35] <IStorm> maxwellian : At first, I wondered as well if he was just talking about a chmod situation or something. My first unix executable was a.out . LOL
[12:35] <disharmony> Hi all; my screen turns black when booting the desktop cd, is there a way to get a console/text install or disable gdm somehow from the bootable cd ?
[12:36] <maxwellian> syssan: http://www.google.com/search?q=change+remote+desktop+password+ubuntu
[12:36] <maxwellian> syssan: I've never worked with remote desktop, but the first link in Google looks promising.
[12:36] <erry> Hello :( please
[12:36] <IStorm> disharmony : do you have a mouse pointer at all?
[12:37] <maxwellian> syssan: I haven't read any of those results, I just did a Google search for you.
[12:37] <marcela> Hi everybody
[12:37] <erry> i tried googling
[12:37] <erry> what the forum said didnt work
[12:37] <maxwellian> IStorm: Right, you never know.
[12:37] <disharmony> IStorm: no I think the mode is wrong, my screen disables itself; So if I can get a console instead of automagically X I perhaps can fix it
[12:37] <maxwellian> lastlog erry
[12:37] <maxwellian> Sorry.
[12:38] <matteo1990> I am having problems with audio in ubuntu 10.04. All worked fine but now (after working on alsamixer to get the mic works on skype) i can hear audio on my fujitsu amilo pi 1505 only if i plug in the headphones.. Any tips?
[12:38] <marcela> Do any of you know the size of "lucid security" mirror? What about "lucid backports? I'm not sure if I have enought disk space
[12:39] <disharmony> IStorm: when I remove splash and quiet from the kernel cmdline within grub I perfectly get text output, but when the init starts it tries to switch to graphics mode and then it's gone
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> disharmony:  using 10.04 or what version?
[12:39] <disharmony> 10.04
[12:39] <Guest77041> hi all! i wanted to login to my box remotely through ssh before i log on locally at the box. But before im logged in locally i cant log on remotely, it says "host down" how comes?!
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> disharmony:  i got some notes on removeing Plymouth so you get text mode :) no splasy gfx. no framebuffer
[12:39] <IStorm> disharmony : well, I was just thinking about the same sort of thing that happened to me a while ago, and a friend of mine.
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> disharmony:  let me pastebin it
[12:40] <disharmony> Dr_Willis: that would be great, thanks.
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> disharmony: http://pastebin.com/7f1p9K0a
[12:40] <maxwellian> erry: Sorry you're having trouble.  Wireless can be frustrating.  Give me a minute to learn a bit about your card.
[12:40] <disharmony> thanks Dr_Willis
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> disharmony:  i blacklisted the fbmodule, and disabled teh plymouth and console service. that was doing some tweaking to the console also.
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> disharmony:  its worked on 2 of my machines just fine so far. I dont know what will happen if i have to fsck at boot.. not seen  any messages about that yet. :0
[12:41] <IStorm> disharmony : do you know if GDM is running or not? Can you hotkey hmmmm, what is it, alt-f2?
[12:41] <disharmony> Dr_Willis: ok this is nice, but this requieres a working installation in the first place, right ?
[12:41] <maxwellian> Guest77041: You're trying to log in to your Ubuntu machine from another machine?
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> disharmony:  you cant even get to the console?  theres the 'text' option you can use to force it to a text mode. that wont even start GDM
[12:42] <disharmony> IStorm: I can't switch to tty1 for example (ctrl-alt-f1 or f2 doesn't seem to work)
[12:42] <Guest77041> maxwellian: yes
[12:42] <maxwellian> erry: Can you walk me through how you set up your WPN111?  Did you have to use ndiswrapper?
[12:42] <maxwellian> Guest77041: Are these machines on the same network?
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> disharmony:  you can edit the grub line at the grub menu  ---> linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-22-generic root=UUID=83bc3df7-b039-445c-82c9-e0c5ff235044 ro nofb
[12:42] <disharmony> Dr_Willis: I tried the text option as a kernel cmdline option, ran in to the same problem
[12:42] <erry> maxwellian, yes
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> disharmony:  to become -> linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-22-generic root=UUID=83bc3df7-b039-445c-82c9-e0c5ff235044 ro nofb
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> disharmony:  to become -> linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-22-generic root=UUID=83bc3df7-b039-445c-82c9-e0c5ff235044 text
[12:43] <disharmony> Dr_Willis: I did that, but lemme try it again to be really sure
[12:43] <erry> maxwellian, it gave me a network list but couldnt get an ip from my net
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> disharmony:  whats not working then? :) i missed somthing.
[12:43] <erry> Now its worse no network list D:
[12:43] <Guest77041> maxwellian: yah, im actually logged in remotely through ssh, but it only workes after i logged in locally in the first place
[12:43] <maxwellian> erry: Did you just do something that might have caused that?
[12:43] <matteo1990> I am having problems with audio in ubuntu 10.04. All worked fine but now (after working on alsamixer to get the mic works on skype) i can hear audio on my fujitsu amilo pi 1505 only if i plug in the headphones.. Any tips?
[12:44] <erry> maxwellian, no, its a live distro and i just rebooted and started over
[12:44] <aeon-ltd> matteo1990: check alsamixer again? max it out
[12:44] <erry> the led of my device is blinking
[12:44] <IStorm> disharmony : Well, I don't think I'm of any use then, our situation was with window managers not loading properly, but I could at least do alt-f2 and run stuff.
[12:44] <maxwellian> erry: You're doing this on a LiveCD?
[12:44] <erry> yes
[12:44] <matteo1990> aeon-ltd, In eadphones i can hear music!
[12:44] <disharmony> Dr_Willis: yep, even with text it seems to be swithcing to "some" graphics mode, or perhaps it's loading the nvidia driver which might screw things up
[12:44] <erry> :/ it doesnt show wirrelss networks anymore
[12:44] <aeon-ltd> matteo1990: yeah so check alsamixer again
[12:45] <disharmony> IStorm: thanks for your time ;)
[12:45] <aeon-ltd> matteo1990: all outputs are separated not collated
[12:45] <maxwellian> erry: I've never booted from a LiveCD, but wouldn't you have to go through the ndiswrapper step again if you rebooted?  I don't think it's going to save changes to the CD?
[12:45] <erry> maxwellian, no :p
[12:45] <erry> maxwellian, it doesnt save
[12:46] <IStorm> Wow, I am falling in love with Empathy, really really quick.
[12:46] <erry> maxwellian, however it doesnt work anymore
[12:46] <maxwellian> erry: Did you do the ndiswrapper step again?
[12:46] <erry> maxwellian, i tried http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=bfbb59687f4c268d169579c7b9f31433&t=414023
[12:46] <matteo1990> aeon-ltd, i am on it, i have PCM thats high, Master 00 (non muted but i can't raise it)  CD muted and Beep Muted, S/pidf 00, of-hook 00 and Caller id 00
[12:46] <maxwellian> Guest77041: Hmm...I would not think that would be the case.
[12:47] <maxwellian> Guest77041: What machine are you using to to initiate the login?  Another Ubuntu machine?
[12:47] <Guest77041> issh on iphone
[12:48] <erry> so any ideas
[12:49] <jelly-one> Hello! Is firefox / xulrunner-1.9.1 in 9.10 affected by CVE-2010-1201  CVE-2010-0183  CVE-2008-5913? I see no security update for xulrunner-1.9.1 since March 31st.
[12:49] <maxwellian> erry: Well obviously you've taken a step backward, unfortunately.  Are you sure you followed the steps correctly the second time?
[12:49] <erry> maxwellian, well i cant follow the sudo ndiswrapper load_fw_ar5523 /etc/ndiswrapper/netwpn111/ar5523.bin
[12:50] <erry> maxwellian, it doesnt have that command
[12:50] <aeon-ltd> jelly-one: pleases wait for firefox branding to take place
[12:50] <maxwellian> erry: Doesn't have which command?
[12:50] <erry> maxwellian, load_fw_
[12:50] <jelly-one> aeon-ltd, can I assume that's a "yes", then?
[12:51] <maxwellian> erry: So how did you do it the first time?  I thought you said you followed the guide?
[12:51] <aeon-ltd> jelly-one: yeah unless your using bleeding edge distros branding takes about 1 month, i'm on arch we got 3.6.6 less than 1 day from release
[12:51] <erry> maxwellian, yes, except for that step
[12:52] <maxwellian> erry: So both times, you skipped that step, and the second time it didn't work?
[12:52] <erry> maxwellian, yea
[12:52] <erry> very consistant huh
[12:53] <jelly-one> aeon-ltd: eh, seems like a suboptimal protocol when security updates are in question
[12:53] <erry> maxwellian, also tried ndisgtk
[12:53] <maxwellian> Guest77041: Not sure what's happening there.  Do you have a firewall set up?
[12:53] <erry> it says hardware present
[12:53] <maxwellian> erry: Yes, good.
[12:53] <erry> but that's not helpful
[12:53] <aeon-ltd> jelly-one: yeah but most users like branding and ubuntu specific written docs
[12:53] <maxwellian> erry: I have used that once before, it wasn't very clear...
[12:54] <erry> :(
[12:54] <maxwellian> erry: Did you reboot because you weren't able to get an IP?
[12:54] <erry> Yes
[12:54] <erry> Actually well
[12:54] <erry> I removed the device from where it was and put it higher
[12:54] <erry> but then it stopped working so i reboot it
[12:54] <erry> now its back where i originally had it
[12:54] <erry> it gets a fine signal at windows btw
[12:54] <erry> so the possition shouldnt really matter
[12:55] <maxwellian> erry: No, that's probably not the issue.
[12:55] <aeon-ltd> jelly-one: if you like bleeding edge use other ppas, gentoo or arch linux
[12:55] <erry> :(
[12:55] <maxwellian> erry: You're right.
[12:55]  * erry throws it away
[12:55] <maxwellian> erry: Okay, give me a second to look up this command that's not working for you.
[12:55] <erry> It worked at a previous version of ubuntu with ndisgtk
[12:55] <erry> but that version is _old_
[12:55] <jelly-one> aeon-ltd: if I liked bleeding edge I wouldn't use ubuntu 9.10, would I.
[12:55] <aeon-ltd> jelly-one: yeahh
[12:55] <erry> and even then it would kick me off once a while
[12:55] <maxwellian> erry: It's good news that it worked at some point though.
[12:55] <erry> maxwellian, yea
[12:56] <maxwellian> erry: Why are you using the LiveCD, by the way?
[12:56] <John3> what kind of Linux I can install on a router? I want to run Linux in a virtual machine on my computer and have it be a router for the entire house
[12:56] <erry> maxwellian, cause i want to make it work before i instlal
[12:56] <cutiyar> while upgrading firefox , I get this error http://pastebin.com/sn0TjSkr
[12:57] <jelly-one> More generally, is there a db or a web page that tracks CVEs to package versions in ubuntu?  Similar to  http://security-tracker.debian.org/ for Debian?
[12:57] <maxwellian> erry: How forward thinking of you. :)
[12:57] <erry> XD
[12:57] <maxwellian> erry: Did you read this whole thread?  It goes on to talk about the error you've experienced.
[12:58] <erry> Ive never got wireless to work in linux. In the best-case-scenario it doesn't work, in the worst-case-scenario it kills the kernel
[12:58] <erry> I have 3 compouters!
[12:58] <erry> ajnd its like that in them all
[12:58] <erry> bad luck :P
[12:58] <aeon-ltd> cutiyar: err read the third line
[12:58] <maxwellian> erry: Wireless is a tricky beast.  Now let's both read the whole thread and see if something comes up. :)
[12:59] <maxwellian> erry: The one you sent me the link to.
[12:59] <jelly-one> cutiyar, make sure you don't have any other package manager tool already running; also, there's no need for "sudo" when you're already root
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> erry:  hmm.. im about 5 for 5 - wireless works beter for me in linux then windows.
[12:59] <cutiyar> maxwellian, I runned dpkg
[12:59] <erry> o.o
[12:59]  * erry steals Dr_Willis wireless adapter
[12:59] <jelly-one> cutiyar, also2, that's invalid apt-get syntax.
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> erry:  i have fougjht with the same identical laptops in releasses past however.. but now most are a few clicks and connected.
[13:00] <cutiyar> maxwellian,http://pastebin.com/Vg5TrWGE
[13:00] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis: erry has a USB card, could be a little more work.
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> Ive never had a usb-qwireless gizmo
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> Those things are so cheap. :) may as well reseasrch and buy one known to work
[13:01] <Lazyvee> if wireless doesn't work then wifi doesn't work in Linux?
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> Lazyvee:  and the differance btweeen wireless and 'wifi' is ?
[13:01] <maxwellian> cutiyar: What Firefox version do you have, and what are you trying to get?
[13:01] <gOLDfeesh> question. if a hard drive is advertise 320GB how big would windows pick up the drive for? Because I'm seeing it as 297GB...
[13:01] <erry> where can i download a zip with the wpn files
[13:01] <erry> i need some athwpn thing i dont have
[13:02] <cutiyar> maxwellian, I have 3.6.3 I liked to upgrade it
[13:02] <gOLDfeesh> sweetpi referred me to : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabyte#Consumer_confusion but doesn't seem to make much sense.
[13:02] <maxwellian> erry: Hold it, there, professor.  I said read it, don't do anything yet...these people could all be way off. :)
[13:02] <cutiyar> and now it will not open because I get these error
[13:02] <jelly-one> gOLDfeesh: that seems on par because of the differences between SI and binary-based units.
[13:02] <erry> BUT
[13:02] <maverick757> hey guys, got a problem using ubuntu 10.4
[13:02] <A[D]minS> i mound nfs disk as the following "172.16.149.130:/home/hazem on /nfs type nfs (rw,addr=172.16.149.130)" , But when i try to cd /nfs it give permission denied   <please advise"
[13:02] <maxwellian> cutiyar: You normally do not manually upgrade anything in Ubuntu.
[13:03] <cutiyar> why not?
[13:03] <erry> we i have work to do
[13:03] <k00giez> happy 4th of july
[13:03] <maverick757> When I want to mount a HDD using NTFS file system ubuntu says: Not authorized
[13:03] <gOLDfeesh> jelly-one yeah just looked at http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100123174255AAnHFTq
[13:03] <maverick757> Yesterday it worked
[13:03] <maxwellian> cutiyar: Just run 'sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade'
[13:04] <maxwellian> erry: Are you saying you don't have time to work on this now?
[13:04] <cutiyar> maxwellian, it will upgrade alll I don't all I just want firefox to update
[13:04] <jelly-one> maxwellian, you're not worried about his "read-only filesystem" when running dpkg?
[13:04] <erry> maxwellian, well i cant waste all day on something that's not gonna work anyway
[13:04] <erry> I'll probably be asked to file a bug report which will go unnoticed like my previous one
[13:04] <disharmony> Dr_Willis: well I have a usable screen now with another vga card...
[13:05] <szymon> hello, anybody know how to install mapsource on linux? i have Garmin Etrex H, and it isnt have usb cable (have RS232) - sorry, im a little know english
[13:05] <Lazyvee> Ubuntu 10.04 connects to my router but I can't get online, what am I doing wrong?
[13:05] <maxwellian> erry: Yes, that would be frustrating.  All of the support for Ubuntu is free, which is nice, but volunteer, which is sometimes not as nice.
[13:06] <erry> i never get anything for free
[13:06] <erry> instead i work for free
[13:06] <erry> and never get a thanks
[13:06]  * erry goes emo
[13:06] <FloodBot1> erry: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> erry: elmo?
[13:06] <erry> i hate that bot.
[13:06] <cutiyar> MAXWELLIAN , see this http://pastebin.com/uTiSKGDa while running sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade
[13:06] <maxwellian> erry: Well everyone in here is working for free, so at least you're not alone. :)
[13:07] <A[D]minS> Lazyvee if its connect to your router and u can ping router-ip , then i believe its something related to DNS.
[13:07] <erry> yes but nobody forces you to work
[13:07] <erry> you can be a butt and not work
[13:07] <A[D]minS> Lazyvee: u r using static IP or Dynamic ?
[13:07] <maxwellian> jelly-one: I've never seen anyone try to use dpgk that way.  I can't imagine that's a suitable way to upgrade a given package.
[13:07] <disharmony> jeesh, why is ubuntu so different? What's the correct *way* to create the device files in /dev in the installation cdrom instead of mknod'ing them myself?
[13:07] <Lazyvee> it's a dynamic IP
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> disharmony:  Hmm.. /dev/ is supposed to autopopulate as needed when the various modules for devices load. Ive not needed to mknod stuff in years.
[13:08] <maxwellian> cutiyar: Go ahead and follow the advice of the error message.
[13:08] <disharmony> Dr_Willis: well the kernel detects sda and sdb, but they are not in /dev ;)
[13:08] <erry> ;/
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> disharmony:  so 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda' dosent show anything eh?
[13:09] <erry> when i get a university degree ill work for money
[13:09] <erry> !
[13:09] <jelly-one> maxwellian, "dpkg --configure -a" is a common idiom for cleaning up partially failed installations/upgrades/removals.
[13:09] <maxwellian> erry: What do you want to do?  We can take a look at your problem, knowing we may not succeed, or we can not.  Let me know.
[13:09] <cutiyar> maxwellian, it say read only file system I don't undrstand it
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> disharmony:  theres been some odd controller/drives missing issues ive heard of in 10.04 -
[13:09] <erry> i want it fixed
[13:09] <erry> thats what i want
[13:09] <disharmony> Dr_Willis: unable to open sda; Dr_Willis I don't have any controllers, using iscsi
[13:10] <disharmony> i will mknod them myself... ;)
[13:10] <A[D]minS> ok manually edit dns file  and add ur DNS manual . use the following steps : "sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf"  ,,, THEN insert the bold line  nameserver 208.67.222.222
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> disharmony:  I kniow nothing about iScsi. so you are on your own.
[13:10] <A[D]minS> Lazyvee: ^
[13:10] <jelly-one> cutiyar, that probably means one of your filesystems needed to make apt/dpkg work had an error and has gone read-only automatically.
[13:10] <maxwellian> jelly-one: Yes, that I've seen, but he left off the 'a' in the '-a'.  Guess it was enough to throw me. :P
[13:10] <maxwellian> jelly-one: Thought he was trying to read from stdin or something. :P
[13:10] <disharmony> well this isn't iscsi related, but mknod solved it
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> disharmony:  you sure you got the proper modules loaded? somthing seems odd. :) perhaps file a bug report
[13:11] <erry> nobody reads bug reports
[13:11] <jelly-one> cutiyar, inspect the output of "dmesg", it might provide clues
[13:11] <erry> i have a report there for a week
[13:11] <erry> or more
[13:11] <Arkns> morning all
[13:11] <cutiyar> jelly-one , what should I do to fix it?
[13:11] <erry> nobody cares.
[13:11] <FloodBot1> erry: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:11] <maxwellian> cutiyar: Did you run the 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> erry:  well given the info you have been doing here.. im not suprised at that
[13:11] <cutiyar> maxwellian,yes
[13:12] <jelly-one> cutiyar, it depends on the reason it went read-only; if it's a hardware issue it might have to be dealt with hardware changes. OTOH a reboot and a filesystem check might fix it.
[13:12] <Arkns> I installed ubuntu server and after installed kubuntu-desktop. my wireless was set but it`s not workig browsing and apt-get on console
[13:12] <Lazyvee> I'll try this, thanks you!
[13:12] <Arkns> what could be?
[13:13] <maxwellian> cutiyar: What did it say when you ran the command?
[13:13] <cutiyar> maxwellian, http://paste.ubuntu.com/459093/
[13:13] <maxwellian> cutiyar: Thanks, sorry to keep making you paste.
[13:13] <cutiyar> maxwellian, not probloum
[13:15] <maxwellian> cutiyar: Hmmm...what was the first thing you did to try to upgrade Firefox?
[13:15] <cutiyar> sudo apt-get upgrade firefox
[13:15] <jelly-one> whatever cutiyar did, it wouldn't corrupt the fs
[13:16] <Lazyvee> thanks for helping, have a nice day everyone
[13:18] <maxwellian> jelly-one: What do you think, fsck?
[13:19] <jelly-one> "cutiyar, it depends on the reason it went read-only; if it's a hardware issue it might have to be dealt with hardware changes. OTOH a reboot and a filesystem check might fix it."
[13:19] <iddo> what decided which terminal is launched for desktop-entry .desktop files with Terminal=true ?
[13:19] <jelly-one> cutiyar, inspect the output of "dmesg", it might provide clues
[13:19] <iddo> i tried gnome-default-applications-properties, and tried to change sym link for /etc/alternatives/x-terminal-emulator
[13:19] <jelly-one> If I must repeat myself.
[13:19] <iddo> but still gnome-terminal is used
[13:19] <cutiyar> jelly-joe, I don't understood
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> iddo:   tat x-terminal-emulator is a link to  the 'default' terminal program
[13:19] <jelly-one> cutiyar, "dmesg" is a command showing kernel messages.
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> iddo:  the galternatives tool can let you change that system default
[13:20] <jelly-one> cutiyar, pastebin the last 50-100 lines of its output
[13:20] <iddo> Dr_Willis: galternatives ?
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> iddo:  yes.. thats the name of the tool. One of several tools to admin the 'alterantives' system ubuntu uses
[13:21] <iddo> Dr_Willis: i changed the sym link myself to another terminal, but still gnome-terminal is used
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> iddo:  i susggest useing the proper tools.. not just moving symlinks around
[13:21] <jelly-one> cutiyar, this output can be used to figure out the reason why one of your filesystems encountered an error and remounted itself in read-only mode
[13:21] <cutiyar> jely-joe,http://pastebin.com/mXxm7YEc
[13:21] <iddo> Dr_Willis: ok trying
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> iddo:  its also possible thers some gnome setting thats overriding the system defaults
[13:21] <cutiyar> jelly-joe, http://pastebin.com/mXxm7YEc
[13:23] <iddo> Dr_Willis: any idea how to find it? i tried to google this issue and i dont find anything
[13:24] <bobo123> I have problems with getting games use the screen fullscreen, I assume that something fails at changing resolution so it paints black on the rest of the screen. are there something bad with my settings?
[13:24] <bobo123> I use nvidias graphic drivers
[13:25] <iddo> Dr_Willis: i tried galternatives hmm, how come it managed to change the sym link without sudo access?
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> iddo:  you did notice the system ->>>> perfered applications item? it has a setting for a terminal
[13:26] <iddo> Dr_Willis: yes i did, it didnt have any effect either
[13:26] <boldii> hi
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> iddo:  i imagine it changed it on a per user setting - not system wide
[13:27] <boldii> is it possible to change the contents of the "Files & Folders" entry in the ubuntu netbook edition?
[13:27] <iddo> Dr_Willis: anyway i tried galternatives now too, changed to xterm, still no effect.... any other ideas?
[13:28] <Psirus> hi, I have just tried to control my monitor with gddccontrol, which worked fine. however, I can't use the app for the panel to switch between profiles, because it says no monitors found, run gddccontrol first
[13:28] <maxwellian> jelly-one: cutiyar pinged out, but I'd like to know the resolution to this problem, if you have time?
[13:28] <A[D]minS> Guys would you please advise with this case. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/X677Uy8Y
[13:28] <matteo1990> I am having problems with audio in ubuntu 10.04. All worked fine but now (after working on alsamixer to get the mic works on skype) i can hear audio on my fujitsu amilo pi 1505 only if i plug in the headphones.. Any tips?
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> iddo:  no idea. I forget the orignal problem
[13:28] <iddo> Dr_Willis: and it didnt seem to change per usr, i see the sym link in /etc/alternatived changed to xterm
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> iddo:  you do have xterm installed?
[13:29] <iddo> yes
[13:29] <iddo> the original problem was
[13:29] <iddo> what decided which terminal is launched for desktop-entry .desktop files with Terminal=true ?
[13:29] <iddo> decided=decides
[13:31] <volve> hey all, I'm using user-level security and have 2 users writing to the same share. The 1st user is an admin so obviously has root perms to the filesystem, but the 2nd user isn't, however she still seems to be able to delete files owned by the 1st user that have only read privileges. What am I doing wrong? :/
[13:32] <bobo123> I'll be back later
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> iddo:  personally.. i cant recal ever using the launch in terminal feature
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> iddo:  i always make a launcher that does 'xterm -e 'pathtocommand'
[13:34] <rapha> Hi!
[13:35] <david> hi
[13:35] <rapha> How can it be that I install Ubuntu one some non-technical people's PC, and then the first update comes, and the box right out doesn't boot anymore?
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> rapha:  ive had windows machines not even make it that far
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> rapha:  bugs and regressions happen. They normalluy get fixed very fast however.
[13:36] <rapha> Dr_Willis: unfortunately for these ppl, windows always booted trustfully, albeit slowly
[13:37] <rapha> Dr_Willis: i booted the ubuntu on that machine from CD now and ran aptitude update && aptitude safe-upgrade (which brought the -23 kernel in) and it still doesn't boot. The CD itself requires "noapic nolapic acpi=off" to boot, but these are also set in GRUB, so that can't be it...
[13:38] <maxwellian> cutiyar: Hi cutiyar.  Back?
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> rapha:  clarify what it is doing. 'dosent boot' is rather vague
[13:38] <cutiyar> maxwellian , sorry my computer damaged
[13:39] <cutiyar> by this update
[13:39] <maxwellian> cutiyar: It's not clear (to me) exactly what caused the damage, but jelly-one seems to be right that you have a problem with the filesystem.
[13:40] <rapha> Dr_Willis: it starts to boot, then (when I disable "quite nosplash" before booting) shows "Starting AppArmor profiles" and hangs there forever.
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> rapha:  thers also a 'text' option to get a bit more verbose messages at boot up.
[13:41] <cutiyar> maxwellian, how to locate the brocken package?
[13:41] <maxwellian> cutiyar: I recommend that you force a file system check on the reboot.
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> rapha:  replace teh 'quiet nosplash' with 'text'  and see if any more info shows up
[13:42] <cutiyar> maxwellian ,I don't understand sorry
[13:42] <maxwellian> cutiyar: No problem, didn't expect you to.  I just wanted to say what we're going to do. :)
[13:42] <matteo1990> I am having problems with audio in ubuntu 10.04. All worked fine but now (after working on alsamixer to get the mic works on skype) i can hear audio on my fujitsu amilo pi 1505 only if i plug in the headphones.. Any tips?
[13:42] <rapha> Dr_Willis: okay, let me try that ... will take a minute, I messed around already now and have to restore the original GRUB config first.
[13:42] <aeon-ltd> rapha: just remove quiet its verbose by default
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> rapha:  other then that i have no idea. that fact you have to use "noapic nolapic acpi=off"   is not a good sign to begin with.
[13:42] <cutiyar> maxwellian, it said use broken filter to locate
[13:43] <rapha> aeon-ltd: well then Dr_Willis' suggestion wouldnt make sense and I was again only left with staring at the "Starting AppArmor profiles" message forever and a day
[13:43] <cutiyar> maxwellian, where I use broken filter?
[13:43] <maxwellian> cutiyar: Have you already pasted that message?
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> I think 'text' totally makes it show most everything.
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> text verbose - Might show more info.
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> or text noquiet
[13:43] <aeon-ltd> rapha: ok try Dr_Willis idea first
[13:43] <rapha> Dr_Willis: well, some computers have hardware problems. I've come to accept that. And it did run absolutely reliably up until the update. Plus, it works fine from CD...
[13:43] <cutiyar> maxwellian, no
[13:44] <rapha> aeon-ltd: about to :)
[13:44] <maxwellian> cutiyar: Would you please?
[13:44] <rapha> It's just kinda hard to evangelise Ubuntu like that, because stuff like this makes ppl lose trust, esp. when they were skeptical to begin with...
[13:45] <cutiyar> maxwellian,http://pastebin.com/iprwviVb
[13:45] <Dr_Willis> I find it harder to evangelize windows when you hear about the major exploits.. but  comptuiers are complex and thats the bottom line.
[13:46] <maxwellian> cutiyar: When did you get that message?  What gave you that message?
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> at least with Linux you can 'pop the hood' and try to fix things. Once you get  the hood open.
[13:46] <inspiron> anyone use google talk with pidgin?
[13:46] <maxwellian> inspiron: What's your question?
[13:46] <maxwellian> !anyone | inspiron
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> bbl. gotta chase the grandkids.
[13:47] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis: You'll never catch them, give up.
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> maxwellian:  yes i will.. I got COOKIES! :)
[13:48] <cutiyar> maxwellian, when I want update from update manager
[13:48] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis: Mwah ha ha ha!
[13:49] <maxwellian> cutiyar: First things first, let's run that fsck.
[13:50] <rapha> aaaah crap
[13:50] <maxwellian> cutiyar: Type 'sudo touch /forcefsck'
[13:50] <cutiyar> maxwellian , when my computer rebooted was not running I entered fsck after this I could run
[13:50] <maxwellian> cutiyar: Oh, you already ran fsck?
[13:50] <rapha> aeon-ltd: Dr_Willis: no extra info and doesnt work with default grub settings either ... just gonna reinstall it after backing up the home dir.
[13:50] <cutiyar> maxwellian,yes
[13:51] <aeon-ltd> rapha: ok sorry couldn't help
[13:51] <maxwellian> cutiyar: Oh good.  Did you try the 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' command again?
[13:51] <Lantizia> Hey I've open two totally different hard disks up using fdisk.... both of them are "255 heads, 63 sectors/track" and "Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes"... does this mean that I can duplicate the partition boundaries from one to the other exactly?
[13:52] <rapha> aeon-ltd: no prob - i'm grateful for the suggestions anyway :)
[13:52] <cutiyar> maxwellian, ok wait
[13:53] <cutiyar> maxwellian, http://pastebin.com/wjW3GdkY
[13:54] <santac> Hello, how can i turn off my laptop numpad?
[13:55] <lobozoo> can someone help me install barry for blackberrys on 10.04
[13:55] <rapha> whats your prob lobozoo ?
[13:55] <seant> cutiyar: follow with "sudo apt-get install -f"
[13:56] <vlt> Lantizia: Should work
[13:57] <seant> Lantizia, If destination size is greater than source yes
[13:57] <kimak> who use backtrack 4?
[13:57] <guntbert> !backtrack | kimak
[13:57] <vlt> Lantizia: `sfdisk -d <origin> | sfdisk <target>` for example
[13:57] <maxwellian> seant: Should he try an upgrade first to see if that corrects the issue?
[13:58] <seant> max109, should'nt hurt
[13:58] <seant> maxwell_, shouldnt hurt
[13:58] <cutiyar> maxwellian,http://pastebin.com/Uae1Sh7S
[13:58] <maxwellian> seant: Almost...there!
[13:58] <lobozoo> rapha: well ive tried adding the ppa and then going to synaptic to add it but they are not there is there an easy way to do this,im relatively new to linux
[13:58] <Lantizia> vlt, when I specify the same first partition (begins at 1, ends at 13 cylinders) I get a different block count :S
[13:58] <kimak> how to install driver on backtrack?
[13:59] <maxwellian> cutiyar: Cool, that looks good.
[13:59] <seant> maxwellian, yeah should be set now
[13:59] <the_holstar> How to control the fan of my laptop by command?
[13:59] <cutiyar> maxwellian , now I want upgrade it
[14:00] <guntbert> kimak: backtrack is *not* supported here - ask in #backtack-linux please
[14:00] <guntbert> * #backtrack-linux
[14:01] <maxwellian> cutiyar: Now try 'sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade'
[14:01] <seant> maxwellian, is this an upgrade to lucid?
[14:02] <maxwellian> seant: No, he just wants to upgrade his Firefox.
[14:02] <seant> maxwellian, ok thx
[14:02] <maxwellian> seant: I'm assuming that it will be included in whatever normal upgrades.
[14:02] <maxwellian> seant: Do you know the best way to do a distro upgrade from the command line?
[14:02] <seant> maxwellian, he could get the latest from PPA if he wants to
[14:02] <DarsVaeda1> can someone suggest a nice tool for drawing exact schemas like with ahh i guess its called autodesk on windows
[14:03] <maxwellian> seant: He just wants 3.6.6, which I think is standard now.
[14:03] <maxwellian> !firefox
[14:03] <maxwellian> Hmmm, that's not what I wanted...
[14:04] <seant> maxwellian, or he could just use synaptic
[14:04] <DarsVaeda1> ahh its called autocad
[14:04] <guntbert> !info firefox | maxwellian
[14:04] <srini> Any tool for monitoring Wirless in linux
[14:04] <maxwellian> guntbert: Thanks. :)
[14:04] <the_holstar> I am trying to install a contorl panel in my ubuntu 10
[14:04] <the_holstar> which one will be the best?
[14:04] <anode> hey, in System_>Login screen, isn't there suppose to be a greeter tab? I want to change my gdm theme, but I cannot find where..
[14:04] <the_holstar> and i am looking for free package
[14:04] <maxwellian> seant: Yes, but he started out showing errors from the command line, so I thought I'd keep him there.
[14:05] <seant> maxwellian, ok
[14:05] <the_holstar> i want to control panel so that i can control my dns,apache,ftp,mysql,etc
[14:05] <maxwellian> seant: Of course, he keeps losing his connection, so hopefully he doesn't have some serious problem.
[14:05] <chanti> i am using ubuntu10, gnome panel not responding many times properly, can anybody help please
[14:06] <cutiyar> maxwellian , firefox was not upgraded
[14:07] <maxwellian> cutiyar: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[14:07] <maxwellian> cutiyar: 'lsb_release -a'
[14:07] <cutiyar> maxwellian , 10.4
[14:07] <rxd> which is better 9.10 or 10.04 ubuntu
[14:07] <Euphus> hello folkz :)
[14:08] <maxwellian> cutiyar: Okay, well 3.6.6 is supposed to be standard now...you ran 'firefox --version'?
[14:08] <anode> hey, in System_>Login screen, isn't there suppose to be a greeter tab? I want to change my gdm theme, but I cannot find where..
[14:08] <Euphus> why do my firefox allways lag on youtube or flashplayers?
[14:09] <maxwellian> rxd: "Better" doesn't really mean much...what's your question?
[14:09] <Euphus> too much extesions ??
[14:09] <lobozoo> is barry the only programe for blackberry
[14:09] <rxd> maxwellian: i want to know which is easier to use 9.10 or 10.04
[14:09] <maxwellian> Euphus: What do you mean, lag?  The playback is choppy?
[14:10] <rapha> lobozoo: never installed barry through a ppa tbh - let me check
[14:10] <Euphus> 10.04
[14:10] <rxd> maxwellian: which i will not encounter so many problems
[14:10] <lobozoo> rapha:thanx
[14:10] <maxwellian> rxd: 9.10 has been around longer, so presumably there's been a greater chance to fix bugs and whatnot.  But some of those bug fixes have been held off until 10.04.
[14:10] <rapha> lobozoo: i take it this is the ppa you used? https://launchpad.net/~doctormo/+archive/barry-snapshot
[14:11] <maxwellian> !karmic
[14:11] <Euphus> anybody else always has lags on youtube or flash?
[14:11] <atmos4> hi
[14:12] <rapha> lobozoo: well, if it is. could you open a terminal and type "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install barry"?
[14:12] <wullox> nope
[14:12] <atmos4> hmm, after upgrading to lucid form karmic, none of the sysv style init scripts were started
[14:12] <lobozoo> rapha: thats the one did what it says on the can , but still cant install barry
[14:12] <Euphus> what is barry?
[14:12] <atmos4> I then discovered, that it was due to /etc/inittab being removed
[14:12] <lobozoo> maybr im doing it wrong
[14:13] <lobozoo> euphus: program for blackberry
[14:13] <atmos4> I readded a file with only a single line "id:3:initdefault:" and now sysv style init scripts are started again
[14:13] <atmos4> isn't that a bug in lucid?
[14:13] <Euphus> lobozoo, ; ok , thnax ;)
[14:13] <seant> atmos4, upstart is the new mechanism which also runs the old sysV style init scripts.
[14:13] <atmos4> well it doesn't withtout /etc/inittab for me
[14:13] <seant> atmos4, It is from Karmic and beyond I think
[14:13] <maxwellian> rxd: Just go with 10.04.
[14:13] <maxwellian> cutiyar: What's happening?
[14:14] <maxwellian> cutiyar: Are you still on the old version?
[14:14] <seant> atmos4, there is no inittab
[14:14] <atmos4> seant: neither vdr nor netatalk were started unti I added /etc/inittab
[14:14] <atmos4> both use sysv style init scripts, not upstart
[14:15] <seant> You need to add them via update-rc.d
[14:15] <atmos4> so it seems upstart doesn't start the sysv script unless there is a default initlevel defined in inittab
[14:15] <atmos4> seant: I'm not stupid =)
[14:15] <rxd> is aufs any good as a file system
[14:15] <cutiyar> maxwellian, was not upgraded
[14:15] <maxwellian> cutiyar: You ran that command?
[14:15] <Euphus> i hate smartphones, or i hate htc tattoo!! its fucked kkep away from it folkz! hehe sounds like i have a breakdown lol
[14:15] <atmos4> seant: how you think they magically are started after creating minimal inittab?
[14:15] <seant> atmos4, The default level is set at 2 !! But upstart kicks off the jobs asynchronously, one of them being the rc's
[14:15] <rapha> lobozoo: "says on the can"? - well, nevermind. just execute the command i gave you again, please, and then show me the output you get on pastie.org.
[14:16] <atmos4> well I could set rc2 there, wouldn't matter
[14:16] <atmos4> the services are registered in rc2,3,5
[14:16] <seant> atmos4, you can create an inittab.  But it is not there by default as I understand it
[14:16] <root> startx
[14:16] <atmos4> yea, but it should start sysv style init scripts without me needing to do anything
[14:16] <Guest56388> hi people?
[14:17] <atmos4> which it wasn't until I created inittab file
[14:17] <atmos4> thus I ask myself what's wromng
[14:17] <rxd> ubuntu is ignoring aufs excellent  feature
[14:17] <atmos4> which upstart script handles calling the sysv scripts?
[14:17] <flames> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[14:17] <Guest56388> where can i get information about using linux?
[14:18] <seant> atmos4, I am not sure on why those commands never made it to the /etc/rc*.d.  Perhaps a re-install would have done it or a reconfigure
[14:18] <flames> complie from source
[14:18] <maxwellian> !manual | Guest56388
[14:18] <flames> can help me
[14:18] <atmos4> seant: they are in /etc/rc*.d/
[14:18] <flames> ./configure && make
[14:18] <seant> atmos4, /etc/init/rc.conf I think.  Not a 100% sure
[14:18] <atmos4> but upstart didn't call them
[14:18] <flames> make install
[14:18] <flames> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[14:18] <atmos4> ok will check that file
[14:18] <seant> atmos4, Are they in /etc/rc2.d?
[14:18] <cutiyar> maxwellian, yess
[14:18] <atmos4> seant: not wanting to repeat myself
[14:19] <seant> atmos4, That should have kicked it off then.
[14:19] <atmos4> I've plenty years of linux experience, so they are :-)
[14:19] <seant> atmos4, I dont doubt that.  BUt a lot are new to upstart
[14:19] <Guest56388> what should i do in order to get used to linux?
[14:19] <flambo> hey folks, having mail issues with alot of people complaining they're not able to send me mail (or the few other people using my server can't receive mail from some folks)
[14:19] <atmos4> yes, upstart is still new for me
[14:19] <maxwellian> cutiyar: What if you type 'sudo apt-get upgrade firefox'?
[14:19] <flambo> anyone able to help me debug it?
[14:19] <atmos4> but /etc/rc*.d/ has little to do with upstart
[14:20] <cutiyar> maxwellian ,I did it before , ok iwill do it again
[14:20] <Euphus> anybody else always has lags on youtube or flash?
[14:20] <seant> atmos4, once again: upstart kicks off the old rc style scripts.
[14:20] <flambo> the server is ubuntu 8.04
[14:20] <Guest56388> i need help from you friends; what is the advice you give to me?
[14:20] <rapha> Euphus: a friend complained of it after the upgrade to 10.04
[14:20] <atmos4> seant: yea I'm looking at the rc.conf script now
[14:20] <flambo> and it's configured using the ISPConfig  web based administration tool
[14:20] <flambo> there's about 15 domains running on the server.
[14:21] <maxwellian> !manual | Guest56388
[14:21] <Lantizia> Hey when you mkfs.ext2 or ext3... you can see the settings it's about to use... can you see those settings for an already formatted partition?
[14:21] <maxwellian> Guest56388: Start there.
[14:21] <atmos4> my guess is that for some reason it didn't get the $RUNLEVEL variable right
[14:21] <Euphus> rapha, : yee its fucked
[14:21] <Guest56388> thank you friends
[14:21] <BluesKaj> !linux | Guest56388
[14:22] <lobozoo> rapha:can you send the executable again? pls
[14:22] <maxwellian> cutiyar: Any luck?  I've gotta get off to bed in a minute, so I'd like to know what's going on.
[14:23] <cutiyar> maxwellian, its running
[14:23] <cutiyar> maxwelluan , will finish
[14:23] <rapha> lobozoo: aptitude update && aptitude install barry
[14:23] <maxwellian> cutiyar: What does that mean?  It's doing the upgrade?
[14:23] <cutiyar> sorr
[14:23] <chanti> i am using ubuntu10, gnome panel not responding many times properly, can anybody help please
[14:23] <cutiyar> maxwellain ,yes
[14:23] <cutiyar> maxwellian , please don't bother go to bed
[14:24] <cutiyar> maxwellian , I will ask again I f I got any errror
[14:24] <maxwellian> cutiyar: Oh, I know, I just wanted to see where we stood. :)
[14:24] <maxwellian> cutiyar: Glad it's doing something, hope it works out.  Good night, or morning, or whatever to you. :)
[14:25] <Euphus> anybody had problems with spotify? i have to run it through terminal.. i think its wine it can`t be runned from shortcut
[14:25] <rbanffy> Hi folks. After updating the kernel (about a month ago) my son's computer ceased to access wifi networks. It's a broadcom b43-ish device. It's not listed in lspci. Should I try harder to make Linux find it or should I go out and buy another mini-pci-express card?
[14:26] <Euphus> broadcom sux
[14:26] <rapha> lobozoo: afk for a bit, food. you can /query me with the answer if you want, ill look into it when i come back.
[14:27] <Euphus> anybody had problems with spotify? i have to run it through terminal.. i think its wine it can`t be runned from shortcut
[14:27] <lobozoo> rapha thanx dude
[14:28] <rbanffy> Euphus: I know. It came with the computer.  But sucky or not, it was working, then stopped. The question is whether I should buy another (non-broadcom) or do some trick to make it work.
[14:28] <Guest56388> friends, unfortunately i will be asking too many question, please do not get mad, it is bacause i am really addicted to lunix but i do not know anything about it
[14:29] <Euphus> it is not compartible enough, i would buy a new non-broadcom if i where you.. just buy a pin-card
[14:29] <Euphus> usb-plug
[14:29] <Guest56388> not even the basic commands commands
[14:29] <Euphus> and buy a netgear ;)
[14:30] <atmos4> I'd always choose internal wlan over an usb stick
[14:30] <Guest56388> i have tried many sited, looking for info but it is very hard to understand
[14:30] <atmos4> those small printed antennas suxk, and it gets int he way
[14:30] <Euphus> even N-stick?
[14:30] <Pirate_Hunter> Euphus, netgear hasn't let the people I know down and it picks up ISP settings all by itself so good suggestion
[14:31] <Euphus> ;)
[14:31] <atmos4> well just swap the internal card if it's not working correctly
[14:31] <abhi_nav> !ask | Guest56388
[14:31] <atmos4> but first I'd try getting it working, because there are driver available for b43
[14:32] <lobozoo> were do i paste thing agian?
[14:32] <Euphus> Pirate_Hunter, ; i went from linksys to netgear, and i dont regret
[14:32] <mfraz74> i would say try a realtec based card, but i've never had much luck with those
[14:33] <Pirate_Hunter> Euphus, hmmm linksys I thought they were good at least much better than netgear, am I wrong?
[14:33] <spiky_> Guest56388: have a read http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/index_main.html
[14:33] <lobozoo> where can i paste something to show someone
[14:33] <abhi_nav> !paste | lobozoo
[14:33] <atmos4> I'd try the most recent drivers before heading out and swapping hardware
[14:33] <Euphus> Pirate_Hunter,  :  broke 3 in a half year :) but then the whole house fucked with them. the netgear are still running :)
[14:33] <lobozoo> tanx
[14:34] <Euphus> is
[14:34] <ubuntu> hey there how can I have grub installed on a partition which is independant from OSs?
[14:34] <rbanffy> Hi folks. After updating the kernel (about a month ago) my son's computer ceased to access wifi networks. It's a broadcom b43-ish device. It's not listed in lspci. Should I try harder to make Linux find it or should I go out and buy another mini-pci-express card?
[14:34] <MikeChelen> is it possible to connect with an HP printer over bluetooth? the bluetooth wizard sees the device but can't set it up, and i'm not sure how to add it through HPLIP
[14:34] <Pirate_Hunter> for whoever was asking about spotify it is working fine here with wine and streaming well
[14:34] <foolguy> Hi, how do I get xchat to stop automatically connecting to this channel?
[14:34] <rez> Anyone know the terminal code to install java the newest one?
[14:35] <abhi_nav> foolano, set your preferences in xchat=>network list
[14:35] <TomD> I'm looking for a new desktop that is pre-built to run Ubuntu.  I have purchased several from Dell in the past.  Are there any that support Ubuntu better than others?  I would like to avoid the Microsoft tax if possible
[14:35] <Euphus> Pirate_Hunter, : yes, it did 4 a while here too.. lol
[14:35] <foolguy> abhi_nav: thanks
[14:35] <abhi_nav> foolano, hmm
[14:35] <Euphus> Pirate_Hunter, : have to run it from terminal now.. :(
[14:35] <Pirate_Hunter> Euphus, eeeerh ok I've never used that brand but will stay away from it, and yeah netgear has been up and running here as well even knowing it never gets turned off oh and watch the language :)
[14:35] <peleg> my left alt key stopped working, suddenly. How can I verify whether it is hardware issue or software issue? It is not working "every now and then" -- it just stopped, completely, and it is not better after a restart
[14:36] <rbanffy> rez: do an apt-cache search sun-java
[14:36] <rbanffy> rez: or java-sun
[14:36] <Euphus> Pirate_Hunter,  sure :)
[14:37] <Guest56388> maxwellian; my lunix operating system is backtrack 4, where do i find useful information on it.
[14:37] <Guest56388> the commands and information on how to handle all backtrack applications?
[14:38] <Pirate_Hunter> peleg, the easiest method is to try another keyboard or use that keyboard on another machine
[14:38] <oCean_> !backtrack | Guest56388
[14:38] <Pirate_Hunter> oCean_, what is backtrack?
[14:38] <oCean_> Pirate_Hunter: ubuntu derivative
[14:38] <Pirate_Hunter> its like the third person i've heard mentioning backtrack
[14:39] <peleg> Pirate_Hunter, oh, sorry but I didn't mention I am using a laptop; I don't have here a usb keyboard to connect it to it. Maybe I should get one then... any other method in the meanwhile?
[14:39] <IStorm> oCean_ : A light derivitive?
[14:40] <Pirate_Hunter> peleg, other than sudo dpkg-reconfigure console (I think that is the command) however if it is the keyboard which I doubt that wont help
[14:40] <Knew> Can I install Ubuntu in a chroot?
[14:40] <Knew> On CentOS
[14:40] <rbanffy> Anyone experienced with Broadcom wifi problems? I have a b43-ish mini-pci-express thingie acting up.
[14:40] <Pirate_Hunter> Knew ask in CentOS
[14:41] <Sereph> I set my hostname with sudo hostname... on reboot it is changing.... ubuntu 10.04 can anyone tell me why
[14:42] <martman> when i goto system->administration->printing i cannot add a new printer(grayed out) or connect to a cups sever
[14:42] <oCean_> Sereph: try /etc/hostname
[14:42] <martman> how can i fix this?
[14:42] <peleg> Pirate_Hunter, I don't have a package named "console".
[14:43] <Pirate_Hunter> peleg, let me check the actual command
[14:43] <abhi_nav> hi vishnu installed ubuntu?
[14:43] <peleg> Pirate_Hunter, thanks!
[14:43] <Pirate_Hunter> peleg, sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[14:44] <vishnu> abhi_nav, note yet dude,is it safe to transfer files from "virtual ubuntu" to real ubuntu using LUBI OR LVPM
[14:44] <Bragex9> I am trying to share folders with samba, but I am only getting an error message saying: net usershare" returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name "Everyone" to a SID. 01:21. NT_STATUS_INSUFFICIENT_RESOURCES How can I fix it?
[14:44] <abhi_nav> what is lubi and lvpm vishnu ?
[14:44] <abhi_nav> vishnu, btw there is no risk in it. linux dont have viruses like win.
[14:45] <bilg_z> hi all!!!
[14:45] <vishnu> abhi_nav, no no... i m talking abot authenticity of lubi.. its used to transfer files from one partioion to another buddy... i jus want to know if its authentic.. thatis, i shouldnt encounter any problem durinf transfering .. thats it
[14:46] <Sereph> oCean_: nope
[14:46] <bilg_z> are there open source softwares to find passwords some formats (like rar doc zip 7z and others) ?
[14:46] <abhi_nav> vishnu, I really never heard about lubi.
[14:46] <IdleOne> vishnu: where did you read about lubi?
[14:47] <vishnu> abhi_nav, yeah i know that it doesnt hav viruses.. thats y i shifted linux.... :) ok...no probs buddy... thanks 4 getting invloved...
[14:47] <Sereph> oCean_: wait no that actually worked
[14:47] <ross_> how do you synchronize a desktop and a laptop
[14:47] <oCean_> Sereph: it should :)
[14:47] <abhi_nav> vishnu, ok
[14:47] <Sereph> oCean_: isn't that what hostname is supposed to do......
[14:47] <ross_> files and such
[14:47] <abhi_nav> IdleOne, what is lubi? do you know? I never heard of it
[14:47] <IdleOne> abhi_nav: I don't
[14:47] <bastidrazor> !hostname | Sereph
[14:47] <oCean_> Sereph: only temporary.
[14:48] <vishnu> IdleOne, i jus googled it up... that moment i found a post as how to transfer files between partitions ... thats how, it came about here
[14:48] <Sereph> interesting.......
[14:48] <peleg> Pirate_Hunter, I see nothing new. Should I restart?
[14:48] <abhi_nav> IdleOne, ok
[14:49] <peleg> Pirate_Hunter, oh, silly me -- it told me to restart.
[14:49] <peleg> :)
[14:49] <peleg> Pirate_Hunter, well, thanks! I'm restarting.
[14:49] <IdleOne> abhi_nav: it is http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBYQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Flubi.sourceforge.net%2Flvpm.html&ei=XpEwTMurBIOclgfShOD2Cw&usg=AFQjCNGjBzhePFbPPu7YkGVE4lSI_Mbh_g
[14:49] <IdleOne> oops sorry about the long link
[14:49] <Pirate_Hunter> peleg, probably but the way to find the answer is to figure out why it stoped working, did you swap your keyboard settings or maybe another application is using it?
[14:49] <bilg_z> are there open source softwares to find passwords some formats (like rar doc zip 7z and others) ?
[14:49] <abhi_nav> IdleOne, thanks. :)
[14:50] <iceroot> bilg_z: any bruteforce-tool
[14:50] <kamil_sk> hi guys,
[14:50] <kamil_sk> does anybody now how to fix the problem with usbfs entry in /etc/fstab ? "usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs devgid=14,devmode=0660 0 0"
[14:50] <kamil_sk> I need this entry for my old printer to work, but I discovered that ubuntu 10.04 kernel doesn't support usbfs anymore.. Can somebody
[14:50] <kamil_sk> help me please?
[14:50] <FloodBot1> kamil_sk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:51] <bilg_z>  iceroot:  http://www.softpedia.com/get/Security/Password-Managers-Generators/MD5-Brute-Force-Tool.shtml
[14:52] <bilg_z> iceroot:this porgram is for windows :(
[14:52] <iceroot> bilg_z: apt-cache search bruteforce
[14:53] <iceroot> bilg_z: and think about the time bruteforce may need
[14:54] <volve> hey all, I'm trying to setup a samba share so that Bob and Jane can both read and write but can't delete/change each others files. My tests seem to let them both create files with -rw-r--r-- Bob:Bob & -rw-r--r-- Jane:Jane, but for some reason Jane can still delete Bob's files! :(
[14:55] <cheddar> Hi anyone know how to add the proprietary wifi driver to a laptop that has no network connectivity (except for the wifi)?
[14:55] <cheddar> I have internet on a different machine and usb sticks
[14:56] <aeon-ltd> cheddar: yeah find a ndiswrapper guide follow it take neccessary files from other pcs
[14:56] <christiam> hi
[14:56] <aeon-ltd> !hi | christiam
[14:58] <christiam> un gusto estar aquí
[14:58] <christiam> aeron???
[15:00] <aeon-ltd> !es | christiam
[15:00] <christiam> thanks ubottu
[15:00] <IdleOne> christiam: are you a bot?
[15:00] <ubuntu> hey there how can I have grub installed on a partition which is independant from OSs?
[15:00] <Benwa> christiam→ are you a bot?
[15:00] <Benwa> haha
[15:00] <aeon-ltd> ubuntu: by having a /boot partition
[15:01] <ubuntu> aeon-ltd: you mean I must create a partition which its mount point is /boot yeah?
[15:02] <RPS> Hello Guys, I'm using Ubuntu 8.10 and I have lost my sound (yet again.) I've had this issue before, but it happened so long ago I honestly can't remember where to start. I'll gladly open my terminal and absorb any help that you guys might be able to offer.
[15:02] <RPS> I only get a crackling sound from my speakers
[15:02] <aeon-ltd> ubuntu: yeah a separate partition that basically contains all of grub
[15:03] <aeon-ltd> RPS: are you using alsa?
[15:03] <ubuntu> aeon-ltd: then can I have other OS s with it for example after installiing ubuntu and ofcourse grub seperated from the /
[15:03] <RPS> Yes I believe that is what I've been using
[15:04] <aeon-ltd> ubuntu: what you want is a / /home /boot setup and then obviously another / or ntfs for your other os
[15:04] <Guest56388> where can i learn the basics of security, i mean, books, videos etc?
[15:05] <RPS> cat /proc/asound/cards .....brought back HDA-Intel
[15:05] <aeon-ltd> Guest56388: wikis read about iptables
[15:05] <aeon-ltd> RPS: go into a terminal type alsamixer
[15:05] <ubuntu> aeon-ltd: I am worry about when I install Windows SEVEN all the grub settings disappears and just seven load itself
[15:06] <RPS> the master is turned all the way up
[15:06] <ubuntu> aeon-ltd: I want something that is independant from OS
[15:06] <ubuntu> aeon-ltd: can I have this by installing grub in another partition as u said?
[15:07] <zcat[1]> ubuntu, only thing you can do is reinstall bootloader.. all versions of Windows have ALWAYS trashed other bootloaders on install...
[15:07] <aeon-ltd> ubuntu: from experience its easier to have 7 first then ubuntu on top, however you can use something like supergribdisk to restore grub after windows is in
[15:07] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  a system with 2 hard drives. makes that a little easier. It is worth learning how to restore grub however.
[15:07] <Dr_Willis> Grub is such an imporntant 'tool' that its definatly worth spending some time reading up on
[15:07] <zcat[1]> you can very easily reinstall grub from the ubuntu cd, see !grub
[15:07] <RPS> aeon-ltd: the master is turned all the way up. It shows HAD Intel as the card
[15:08] <sudipta> hey i am using 9.01.should i upgrade to 10.04 .?i have nvidia
[15:08] <Dimitri__> What is up with ubuntu's wordpress not upgrading to 3.0?
[15:08] <Dr_Willis> sudipta:  flip a coin.. :)  do you want updated stuff?
[15:08] <Dimitri__> How can I trick it (at my own risk) into doing so
[15:08] <zcat[1]> Dimitri__, probably find a ppa?
[15:08] <Dr_Willis> Dimitri__:  clarify what you just said.
[15:09] <Dimitri__> Dr_Willis: wordpress is on version 3.0. all the other wordpresses i've used recently have been automatically upgraded through the wordpress software.
[15:09] <ubuntu> zcat[1]: you mean after installing SEVEN that all things gone failed about the grub I can Use the ubuntu LIVE CD and
[15:09] <Dimitri__> Dr_Willis, it would appear ubuntu disabled this feature of wordpress
[15:09] <Guest56388> where can i learn the basics of security, the programs + their guides, ebooks, if possible with tutorials, for free?
[15:09] <zcat[1]> !grub
yeah but will i create any pproblem during booting
[15:09] <edbian> sudipta, The best answer you can get to that question is to boot the 10.04 live CD and see how you like it.
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> Dimitri__:  never heard of 'wordpress'
[15:09] <RPS> aeon-ltd: is this the line I should use? sudo aptitude --purge reinstall linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils linux-image-`uname -r` linux-ubuntu-modules-`uname -r` libasound2
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> !info wordpress
[15:09] <zcat[1]> ubuntu, that link ubottu just gave..
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> Dimitri__:  if you want the latest version .You may need to find a PPA repository for it.
[15:10] <ubuntu> zcat[1]: thanx bro ;)
[15:10] <Dr_Willis> sudipta:  will what cause any problems?
[15:10] <zcat[1]> Dimitri__, or you can just download wordpress yourself and extract it into /var/www/
[15:10] <Dimitri__> yeah, that's what I was in the midst of
[15:10] <aeon-ltd> RPS: don't bother, in alsamixer are any the outputs showing mm?
[15:10] <IdleOne> abhinav: the same guidelines apply  in all Ubuntu irc channels. Please be patient.
i have indeed liked it i have heard that it might impose problem on booting
[15:10] <Knew> I need to be devoiced.
[15:11] <zcat[1]> Dimitri__, ppa might be better wince it will get updated with your system automatically (as long as the ppa maintainer keeps it updated)
[15:11] <RPS> aeon-ltd: No, I don;t see anything labeled as mm
[15:11]  * Knew !
[15:11] <aeon-ltd> RPS: all bars are maxed out?
[15:11] <Guest56388> where can i get materials on basics of security?
[15:11] <edbian> sudipta, I would be surprised if it had problems booting.  I say, go for it!  I'm not promising that you won't have problems but com'on you're not installing windows here.  What's the worst that could happen? :)
[15:11] <RPS> only the master is maxed out
i dont know yesterday i found that in xchat
[15:11] <edbian> sudipta, Just do a back up before you start and rest easy.
[15:11] <aeon-ltd> RPS: max out all of them
[15:12] <delfis> hello, which to choose 32bit or 64bit?
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> Guest56388:  theres numerous web sites with security tutorial and even a lot of e-books out there.  Security is a BIG topic. so you may need to look around for info that you are wanting to learn about
[15:12] <ikonia> delfis: up to you
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> sudipta:  i dont know what you are talking about.
ok thanks
[15:12] <delfis> but how to choose
[15:12] <delfis> :?
[15:12] <ikonia> delfis: high level rule is 4GB ram or more = 64bit
[15:12] <delfis> what are criterias?
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> delfis:  I see no reason to not use 64bit these days.
[15:12] <delfis> i have 4gb
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> delfis:  id say go with 64bit then
[15:12] <Andy-at-home> guys, i keep getting disconnected from ssh, i tried changing the ssh config but it didnt help, is it a different config?
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> Andy-at-home:  the server has a config also.
[15:13] <Andy-at-home> ah, where can i find that?
[15:13] <ikonia> Andy-at-home: probably your isp's network kicking you off, disable the time out on the client/server configs, and enable tcp-keepalives
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> Andy-at-home:  /etc/ssh/
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> !ssh | Andy-at-home
[15:13] <zcat[1]> Guest43521, basically only install stuff from package management, don't run as root.. if you're not doing server type things there's nothing to worry about, ubuntu is far more secure than the other two popular oses
[15:13] <delfis> 64-bit - Not recommended for daily desktop usage
[15:13] <delfis> the official webpage wrotes
[15:13] <edbian> delfis, If you have more than 3Gb of ram and you install a 32 bit operating system you will not be able to use all of the ram.  However in order to run a 64 bit OS you also need to have a 64 bit processor and motherboard.
[15:13] <RPS> aeon-ltd: I can;t see a way to turn up the others ...PCM, IEC958
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> delfis:  thats old information for the most part.
[15:13] <aeon-ltd> RPS: up on the arrow keys
[15:13] <delfis> ok thanks
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> delfis:  you decide..  we have given our suggestions
[15:14] <Guest56388> DR_Willis: can you prompt me some websites?
[15:14]  * Dr_Willis wonderws when that official ubuntu web page will get updated/clarified
[15:14] <Dr_Willis> Guest56388:  it depends on the specifics you zre interested in. just 'security' is very vague.
[15:14] <zcat[1]> delfis, really no reason not to use 64bit nowdays, except perhaps a very few non-free drivers that don't play nice
[15:15] <aeon-ltd> RPS: what are you usng to test sound?
[15:15] <RPS> aeon-ltd: Well.... that was the single MOST simplest linux fix I have ever been involved with. LOL
[15:15] <Dr_Willis> Guest56388:  hitting delicious.com for and looking what others have tagged as 'security' 'tutorial' and so forth will find good info
[15:15] <aeon-ltd> RPS: your welcome :)
[15:16] <RPS> aeon-ltd: You can;t take my Thank You away. ;) Thanks
[15:16] <zcat[1]> Guest43521, perhaps try http://www.schneier.com/
[15:16] <Dr_Willis> Guest56388:  http://delicious.com/search?p=network+security+tutorial&chk=&context=recent||security&fr=del_icio_us&lc=
[15:16] <aeon-ltd> RPS: np
[15:17] <Guest56388> Dr Willis: i basically want to learn about tcp/ip and remote hacking
[15:17] <RPS> aeon-ltd: I wonder what makes the second meter (PCM) go to all zeros
[15:17] <zcat[1]> lol
[15:17] <oCean_> Guest56388: there's no support for that in this channel
[15:17] <BluesKaj> Andy-at-home, sometimes it helps ssh to have all the IP addresses of the devices you are conecting to the network in /etc/hosts.allow , like this : http://www.pastebin.ca/1894382
[15:18] <sudipta> i am using wvdial to get connected to net through my cell.whenever connection ends i have to restart to create a another connection.can it be done without restar?t
[15:18] <Andy-at-home> thanks
[15:18] <Guest56388> ok
[15:18] <zcat[1]> Guest43521, http://www.megapanzer.com/ might be a good place to start
[15:18] <Dr_Willis> Guest56388:  theres whole books and  ebooks written on tcp/ip - some are free.
[15:19] <Dr_Willis> http://www.tcpipguide.com/free/t_toc.htm
[15:20] <fluppi> server irc.ber.de.euirc.net
[15:20] <Dr_Willis> Guest56388:  that site will keep you busy for a few hrs.
[15:20] <ZeroOne> Hello
[15:20] <ZeroOne> I
[15:21] <DAG-LIFE> Уважаемые Американцы! Хочу добавить Вам осталось не долго!
[15:21] <ZeroOne> d'oh..
[15:21] <ZeroOne> I've got some problems installing/running the Netbook Edition
[15:21] <oCean_> !ru | DAG-LIFE
[15:21] <Dimitri__> thanks ubuntuers for the help
[15:21] <ZeroOne> I've installed the image into an SD card and can get to the boot menu
[15:21] <Dimitri__> I got it working by installing manually wp was smart enough with the database
[15:22] <ZeroOne> But when I hit enter over "Run Netbook Remix from USB" or "Install to a Hard Disk", nothing really happens.
[15:22] <ZeroOne> The screen just flashes once as if the menu was refreshed.
[15:23] <Volkodav> I choose the web cam input in sound preferences and it keeps switching back to internal audio - it did remember the settings with Logitech Vision Pro but the new FVTOUCHCAM N1 does not. It switches back within minutes back to default. Any idea anybody ?
[15:23] <netko> Hi Ubuntu pros. I'm teaching some talented youngsters basics of Linux. We successfully installed Kubuntu, learned the basics of Terminal use (apt-get,cd,ls,touch,man,mkdir,chmod etc.) and folder structure (mount points etc.), done some regexp searches, minor shell scripts and compiled with g++. Do you maybe have an idea what to do next? Nothing too complex because some are just getting started
[15:24] <Guest56388> DR_Willis: thank you for helping me: do is it allowed in this site to provide emails? if it is i would like to have yours so i can contact you when i face some difficulties
[15:24] <Dr_Willis> netko:  video converting with ffmpeg, and mencoder :)
[15:24] <Dr_Willis> Guest56388:  i never read my email. and i am here almoszt every day
[15:24] <Dr_Willis> netko:  and using 'GIMP'
[15:24] <edbian> netko, :D :D Do something fun!  Let them explore compiz
[15:24] <prash> netko, some basics on bootloaders.  esp. grub2
[15:25] <zulgaban72> hi
[15:25] <DAG-LIFE> Dear Americans! I want to say that you left a little .. Now I tell you this openly, and soon everything will be clear and one can not prevent it ... P.S. С Уважением Русский военный
[15:25] <DAG-LIFE> Dear Americans! I want to say that you left a little .. Now I tell you this openly, and soon everything will be clear and one can not prevent it ... P.S. С Уважением Русский военный Dear Americans! I want to say that you left a little .. Now I tell you this openly, and soon everything will be clear and one can not prevent it ... P.S. С Уважением Русский военный Dear Americans! I want to say that you
[15:25] <DAG-LIFE> left a little .. Now I tell you this openly, and soon everything will be clear and one can not prevent it ... P.S. С Уважением Русский военный
[15:25] <DAG-LIFE> Dear Americans! I want to say that you left a little .. Now I tell you this openly, and soon everything will be clear and one can not prevent it ... P.S. С Уважением Русский военный
[15:25] <FloodBot1> DAG-LIFE: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:25] <abhi_nav> I had this problem early so many times. i donwloaded http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Abstract?content=120489 thsi theme when installing ubuntu says not valid theme type not even .tar.gz nor .tar after tar there is direct folder. hwo to install tihs theme please hep?/???????????????
[15:25] <ikonia> abhi_nav: there are a lot of corrupt themes on gnome-look.org
[15:25] <Dr_Willis> abhi_nav:  whats it a theme for?
[15:25] <netko> prash: We successfully upgraded grub to grub2 (even though Error 11 occoured at first)
[15:25] <abhi_nav> Dr_Willis, desktop theme
[15:26] <abhi_nav> ikonia, ok.
[15:26] <abhi_nav> ikonia, any other reliable themes website you may know?
[15:26] <Dr_Willis> abhi_nav: that may be wrong.. themes are often made of theme parts.. and can be miss-packaged. look whats in the archive.
[15:26] <prash> netko, good.  Also teach them about window managers - kde etc
[15:26] <ikonia> no
[15:26] <edbian> netko, Learn about /etc/fstab, learn about /etc/networking/interfaces
[15:26] <Dr_Willis> abhi_nav:  use the various theme-downloader tools  that exist.
[15:26] <Guest56388> Dr_Willis: if it is the case i will not face problems to get help  from you
[15:26] <abhi_nav> Dr_Willis, in archieve there are png , xml  and .destop files
[15:26] <Dr_Willis> abhi_nav:  gnome-art gnome-art-ng and  gstyler
[15:26] <edbian> netko, Learn how to set up different servers (file, ssh, www, etc etc)
[15:26] <abhi_nav> Dr_Willis, ikonia ok thankyou.
[15:27] <Dr_Willis> Guest56388:  this channel is always here.
[15:27] <oCean_> netko: the #ubuntu-offtopic channel maybe more appropriate for your question. This channel is all about technical ubuntu issues.
[15:27] <Dr_Willis> bye all.
[15:27] <rouslan> Does Ubuntu still break after every version upgrade (as it did a few years ago)?
[15:27] <netko> edbian: Lol computers we're working on couldn't handle compiz :D But I agree, something fun would be nice for a change
[15:27] <toogreen> Is there a channel for Unity?
[15:27] <abhi_nav> bye
[15:27] <Dr_Willis> rouslan:  if we say No.. will it matter?
[15:27] <ylmf> haha
[15:27] <edbian> netko, Linux is a tool.  The best way to learn how to use a tool is to use it in some project.  Maybe they could begin learning how to program as well??
[15:27] <rouslan> Dr_Willis: I have not been using Ubuntu for almost two years now so I guess it has changed
[15:28] <prash> netko, dual booting.  I am sure many would like to have ubuntu installed side by side with win
[15:28] <netko> I have like.. 6 h of lexture to do ( minus hour or so for removal Linux and restoring bootloader)
[15:28] <Guest56388> Dr_Willis: where did you learn about computers and how?
[15:28] <oCean_> !ot | Guest56388
[15:28] <abhi_nav> rouslan, does people still die just because plage?
[15:29] <rouslan> I remember trying to upgrade Ubuntu several times, *every* time the upgrade broke the installation.
[15:29] <rouslan> But I guess reinstalling is better than dealing with Portage.
[15:30] <Guest56388> okay, thank you for the information
[15:30] <Guest56388> how can i ping an ip adress using ubuntu?
[15:31]  * rouslan is switching from Gentoo
[15:31] <ZeroOne> If I go into the Help menu when in the boot menu of Ubuntu Netbook Remix and hit "ENTER to boot" as it says at the bottom of the screen, I get the message "Could not find kernel image: /casper/vmlinuz". I can see how that would be a problem when trying to run the system but I don't understand why that might be the case. I did everything it says at the download page here: http://www.ubuntu.com/netbook/get-ubuntu/download I.e. I have completed Step ...
[15:31] <BluesKaj> Guest56388, open a terminal type , ping ipaddress
[15:31] <ZeroOne> ... 2 but can't get even started with Step 3. :(
[15:31] <Martiini_> how do I copy filesystem .... in case I wish to make exact duplicate onto same-size partition ??
[15:31] <pakair> Guest56388, open a terminal and type ping <ipaddress>
[15:31] <abhi_nav> !manual > rouslan
[15:32] <thalib> anyone know why i lost pae after generic in the kernel name
[15:32] <abhi_nav> Martiini_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087
[15:32] <BluesKaj> !clonezilla | Martiini_
[15:32] <BluesKaj> !info clonezilla | Martiini_
[15:33] <ubutom_> thalib, because the generic kernel doesn't have pae-support?
[15:33] <abhi_nav> :p
[15:33] <BluesKaj> Martiini_, well anyway look for clonezilla
[15:33] <padhu> I have no sound when playing MP4, which plug-in to be installed?
[15:33] <thalib> how to get a pae support one
[15:33] <iceroot> thalib: install the pae-kernel
[15:33] <Guest56388> how do i remotely control a windows pc using ubuntu? f
[15:34] <thalib> ok
[15:34] <iceroot> Guest56388: vnc, rdesktop
[15:34] <iceroot> Guest56388: rdesktop to use the windows-buildin-remote-server
[15:34] <rouslan> abhi_nav: I *know* how to use Linux.
[15:35] <rouslan> I have been a Gentoo user for years.
[15:35] <abhi_nav> rouslan, then why are you here asking questions?
[15:35] <Martiini_> abhi_nav, thanks ... Do You know for sure .. that it works ??
[15:35] <Guest56388> iceroot: i mean knowing the ip adress only
[15:36] <iceroot> Guest56388: rdesktop + username + password
[15:36] <Martiini_> BluesKaj, Im aware of clonezilla ... I asked about copying a filesystem
[15:36] <abhi_nav> Martiini_, I never tried it. there are the replies of so many users read them that will help you to decide. but before that as BluesKaj suggested look for what wass taht clonezilaa something
[15:36] <iceroot> Martiini_: maybe you want dd?
[15:37] <Martiini_> abhi_nav, ok .. thanks .. I read and try it :)
[15:37] <prash> Martiini_, gparted can do it for you and so does clonezilla and dd among other tools
[15:37] <abhi_nav> Martiini_, good. :)
[15:37] <Martiini_> yes, clonezilla , partimage , dd , mondo, ghost4linux
[15:38] <rouslan> abhi_nav: I want to know whether version upgrades will break the installation as they have (at least in my experience) a few years ago.
[15:38] <BluesKaj> Martiini_, http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/010037.html
[15:38] <Guest56388> iceroot: i know how to use remote desktop + password, i just want to use the ip adress only, is it possible?
[15:38] <abhi_nav> rouslan, hmm. read release notes then.
[15:39] <abhi_nav> rouslan, I suggest clean fresh installation than upgrade because *****I heard**** many peoples talking about upgradation problems. I dont know what
[15:40] <BluesKaj> rouslan, depends on your hardware, but usually the probs arise when an exotic graphics or other pcie card is installed, IME
[15:41] <rouslan> Well, I guess re-installing is better than dealing with a versionless package manager.
[15:42] <prash> rouslan, I'd suggest imaging your current install and do an upgrade just in case.
[15:42] <rouslan> My main goal is to have a low-maintenance Linux distro.
[15:42] <prash> rouslan, puppy?
[15:42] <rouslan> I am tired of wasting 6 hours per week dealing with Portage.
[15:42] <BluesKaj> rouslan, whynot just edit the sources .list to your liking and use apt to update packages
[15:43] <sam_sam> i use pppoe, for a few days i can't connect as it shows no connections in dsl although i have them( shows in edit window too) , when i do /etc/networking restart shows error >> /etc/resolv.conf must be a symlink , i checked the path i had a file with my DNS ips there ,whats the problem ?
[15:44] <iwo> hey, i just accidentally lost my /etc/profile. can someone running Lucid please dump their /etc/profile into pastebin and give me the link?
[15:44] <iwo> thanks! ;)
[15:44] <Andy-at-home> thanks to all that helped with my SSH timeout problem, got it fixed
[15:44] <iwo> would be much appreciated
[15:45] <san_> I am unable tol ogin to gmail from ubuntu, tried both chrome and firefox
[15:45] <rouslan> Does Ubuntu Netbook Remix typically have more issues (with respect to upgrading) than Ubuntu?
[15:45] <abhi_nav> san_, had you contacted gmail forums wiki and help?
[15:45] <oCean_> iwo: 10.04?
[15:45] <san_> no
[15:45] <arjunak01> is wubi safe to use on lucid, in 9.10 (or was it 9.04?) i had issues with booting after updating the kernel
[15:46] <iwo> oCean_: yep
[15:46] <h00k> rouslan: Ubuntu Netbook Edition is the same on the backend as regular Ubuntu, just with a few extra packages. The upgrade process is the same
[15:46] <abhi_nav> no? good. very good. wow!! apreciated. really
[15:46] <oCean_> iwo: gimme a sec
[15:46] <rouslan> h00k: Ok, thanks.
[15:46] <iwo> oCean_: cheers!
[15:46] <rouslan> I'll try it.
[15:46] <sam_sam>  use pppoe, for a few days i can't connect as it shows no connections in dsl although i have them( shows in edit window too) , when i do /etc/networking restart shows error >> /etc/resolv.conf must be a symlink , i checked the path i had a file with my DNS ips there ,whats the problem ?
[15:46] <oCean_> iwo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/459136/
[15:46] <abhi_nav> arjunak01, wubi on lucid? do you mean install lucid usin wubi on win?
[15:46] <h00k> rouslan: I haven't had any upgrade problems myself, but I have seen people have odd issues. Just follow the !upgrade instructions and you should be alright
[15:47] <arjunak01> abhi_nav: yes
[15:47] <san_> I did a search on the internet , on a site named google and it did not return me a thing
[15:47] <giulia> hello
[15:47] <giulia> I try to get a personal image on gdm
[15:47] <giulia> I searched in the doc but didn't find anything
[15:47] <iwo> oCean_: many thanks! (ooh, ubuntu pastebin o_0)
[15:48] <giulia> I also went on Syynaptic to know if there is a gdmsetup, there is no one
[15:48] <oCean_> iwo: :)
[15:48] <giulia> so I can't find my path
[15:48] <arjunak01> abhi_nav: i need to help a friend to install Ubuntu on his PC, he doesn't know how to partition disk.so is it safe
[15:49] <abhi_nav> arjunak01, installin lucid on win using wibu is safe.
[15:49] <giulia> is there any mean to personnalize my gdm ?
[15:49] <giulia> (I have a lot to learn about Linux)
[15:49] <arjunak01> abhi_nav: on karmic the system gets broken after updating the kernel, does lucid has any such issue
[15:51] <abhi_nav> arjunak01, i dont know about karmic. in my case using lucid i updated kernel two times and it is working fine. but its full installation. now wubi
[15:51] <ZeroOne> Hey, anyone know if this software is any good: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/ ?
[15:51] <BluesKaj> arjunak01, if you decide to use the live install cd to partition the hdd , then make sure your friend defrags his windows install before resizing the windows partition
[15:51] <oCean_> arjunak01: if you have custom build packages, kernel-updates can break dependencies using any release
[15:53] <arjunak01> ocEan Blueskaj: I'm talking about this https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/497168
[15:53] <glips_78> hello everyone!
[15:54] <ZeroOne> hello glips_78
[15:54] <sam_sam> any good cmd line interface for mysql ( like psql for postgresql >>cmd/query complition reqd.) apart from mysql command ?
[15:55] <oCean_> sam_sam: maybe ask in #mysql ?
[15:55] <glips_78> i get this error http://textsnip.com/ba3a26	 when i check the updates . this happened after i installed elementary-theme for gnome properly. can someone please help me ?
[15:55] <sam_sam> tried , but iit said ' cannot send to channel ' :D
[15:55] <oCean_> !register | sam_sam
[15:56] <sam_sam> ty
[15:56] <oCean_> sam_sam: that might help ^
[15:56] <giulia> I know you are busy, but even after having paced up and down in the whole documentation, I find no solution to have a personal image for my gdm
[15:57] <giulia> I already saved one
[15:57] <giulia> but I have no idea on how can Ubuntu use it when I connect
[15:57] <glips_78> i get this error http://textsnip.com/ba3a26	 when i check the updates . this happened after i installed elementary-theme for gnome properly. can someone please help me ?
[15:58] <oCean_> glips_78: no need to repeat that quickly
[15:58] <BluesKaj> giulia, pls explain in more detail , "personal image for gdm"  ?
[15:58] <abhi_nav> helo'
[15:59] <Bobby_> Is there here anyone who set up cluster with eucalyptus?
[15:59] <Bobby_> Is there here anyone who set up cluster with eucalyptus?
[15:59] <Bobby_> Is there here anyone who set up cluster with eucalyptus?
[15:59] <abhi_nav> !repeat > Bobby_
[15:59] <BluesKaj> !patience | Bobby_
[15:59] <delfis> one more question, i have ubuntu, but i need to fix boot(grub i think)
[15:59] <ZykoticK9> glips_78, you are missing the PGP key for a repo you added.  See this as an example http://paste.ubuntu.com/459140/ , but substitute 4D17133CFC5D50C5 from your error.
[15:59] <delfis> how to do that?
[15:59] <delfis> i have cd
[16:00] <xangua> !gpg | glips_78
[16:00] <abhi_nav> delfis, what actually is the problem?
[16:00] <giulia> blueskaj, it's a gdm theme in tar.gz
[16:00] <xangua> ooh what ZykoticK9 says glips_78 ;)
[16:00] <abhi_nav> !tab > giulia
[16:00] <BluesKaj> delfis, run sudo update-grub in the terminal
[16:00] <delfis> abhi_nav i installed windows
[16:00] <delfis> again
[16:01] <tyrosine> IPOD TOUCH -- long story short, I just got one for free but I have no idea what to do with it.  I'm a big linux guy who enjoys programming (a lof of audo processing / python) and I'm a graduate student -- I have no idea even where to begin looking! Any suggestions?
[16:01] <abhi_nav> delfis, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[16:01] <glips_78> ZykoticK9:  xangua: i paste to terminal the commands but the same eror i get. :(
[16:01] <giulia> BluesKaj, it's a theme I downloaded on gnome-look.com
[16:02] <Daekdroom> tyrosine, First, you have to plug it to a Windows system with iTunes. Afterwards, you can transfer your songs from rhythmbox through ubuntu with 0 trouble.
[16:02] <xangua> glips_78: what's the ppa of the theme¿¿
[16:02] <delfis> thanks
[16:02] <giulia> Bllueskaj, the link is here : http://gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=150
[16:02] <tyrosine> Daekdroom: I don't plan to use it to listen to music. ^_^;;
[16:02] <Daekdroom> tyrosine, well, you still have to plug it to a Windows system with iTunes to set it up.
[16:02] <giulia> And I have to improve my computer English
[16:02] <glips_78> xangua:  i dont know what are you asking to me :( but this erorr starts after i install elementary-theme for gnome.
[16:03] <tyrosine> Daekdroom: ok, will do
[16:03] <Daekdroom> tyrosine, Ubuntu 10.04 can't sync apps and such, altho.
[16:03] <tyrosine> Daekdroom: Where can I get a Windows XP liveCD? ;-)
[16:03] <Daekdroom> tyrosine, no clue, and such thing is out of the scope of this channel and its policy..
[16:03] <alexx_> ki ha fantasie su cugine?
[16:03] <xangua> glips_78: what's the PPA PAGE of the theme¿¿ you dud a sudo add-apt-repository ppa/name don't you¿¿
[16:03] <lennyf> exit
[16:04] <xangua> did*
[16:04] <idefixx> tyrosine: no where leagl also live won't do you any good since you'll have to install iTunes
[16:04]  * idefixx sighs
[16:04] <ZykoticK9> xangua, glips_78 did NOT use "add-apt-repository" as that will automatically add the key, they must have used some older method.
[16:05] <glips_78> xangua: 1.2.1~ppa106~10.04
[16:05] <Daekdroom> ZykoticK9, sometimes add-apt-repository will fail to fetch the key..
[16:06] <glips_78> xangua: i installed it with this command : sudo add-apt-repository ppa:elementaryart/ppa and after that sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install elementary-theme elementary-icon-theme
[16:07] <glips_78> xangua: it installed properly and i am using it now .
[16:07] <xangua> then do that again and make sure the key is aded this time glips_78 sudo add-apt-repository ppa:elementaryart/ppa
[16:08] <glips_78> xangua: http://textsnip.com/40e685 ok now ?
[16:09] <xangua> glips_78: yes
[16:09] <glips_78> xangua: it worked :) thank you! :D
[16:12] <iceroot> what is the way to see if a deb is the original sync from sid, if it is patched from sid or if it is build from canocial without using sid?
[16:14] <padhu> tyrosine: [Out of Topic] try Hiren boot CD
[16:14] <giulia> sorry
[16:14] <giulia> I had to reboot
[16:14] <giulia> my computer was a real mess
[16:14] <bazhang> padhu, that is offtopic and not supported here. Please don't suggest it
[16:15] <jiehanzheng> hello. there's a question with libnotify: I once set up my Evolution, and I no longer want to use it, so how can i remove the useless "Compose new message" and "Contacts" tag from the "envelop" menu?
[16:15] <rescadasys> is this the place to ask about Update Manager?
[16:15] <giulia> any idea on how to get a gdm theme different as the default one ?
[16:15] <LJRuff> !ask | rescadasys
[16:15] <padhu> bazhang: sure, :-) we have channel #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:17] <ponchale> join /irc://irc.freenode.net/#ubuntu-co
[16:17] <ponchale> alguien de colombia
[16:17] <ponchale> por aqui
[16:17] <bazhang> ponchale, just /join #ubuntu-co
[16:20] <htorque> hello everyone! can you tell me, if it's save to wipe the ~/.local/share/gvfs-metadata directory?
[16:23] <sad> What is the recommended way to install Flash 64 ?
[16:23] <xangua> ponchale: #ubuntu es un canal en inglés, si buscas soporte de ubuntu en español ve a #ubuntu-es
[16:23] <BluesKaj> !flash | sad
[16:23] <xangua> sad: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[16:24] <sad> Ok, Im running that now.
[16:24] <sad> We will see.
[16:25] <rescadasys> LJRuff_Hello, when I turn any one of my machines on, Update Manager sometimes has a certain number of updates shortly after it is turned on. However, if I were to 'Check' it might find more...I am curious whhy it does not find them the firs time
[16:26] <alvnnnn> Is there a command to check the license of a piece of software before installing it?
[16:28] <bullgard4> alvnnnn: The source code usually includes a copyright text.
[16:28] <Martiini_> abhi_nav, fileystem copy & duplication advice you gave me .. didnt work .. I get "Unexpected EOF in archive"
[16:28] <alvnnnn> bullgard4: I found a package in the ubuntu standard repository that the developer says is only for personal use unless you buy a license.
[16:29] <sad> I installed flash but embedded flash still doesnt work.
[16:29] <Asdeer> hi, sorry for the quick question: can somebody help me to configure mail using php?
[16:29] <abhi_nav> Martiini_, hmm. read it carefully. its command line. one character makes difference. read carefully in details. dont exclue any single word.
[16:29] <xangua> sad did you restart your browser¿
[16:29] <abhi_nav> Martiini_, and it is not because of that procedure it is because of that thing that you ddnt follow it neatly.
[16:29] <sad> yes, ill restart it again
[16:30] <user1_> can anyone answer questions on why my pendrive - 256gb is not showing data when unmounted
[16:30] <Asdeer> I'm tried posfix&exim4, php returns true, but the mail doesn't arrive
[16:30] <xangua> sad: make sure nspluginwrapper was installed then
[16:30] <user1_> and mounted again
[16:30] <xangua> it is necesary to run 32 bits flash in 64 bits os sad
[16:31] <Martiini_> abhi_nav, shut up ... I just let you know .. that command does not work .. either because of hard-links .. or some else
[16:31] <abhi_nav> !language | Martiini_
[16:31] <bazhang> Martiini_, that language is not appropriate
[16:31] <vol7ron> how do you open a terminal from ubuntu w/ a new tab, but with focus on the first tab
[16:32] <user1_> any specialist on ubuntu 10.4 and usb 3.0 support?
[16:32] <sad> Still no embedded video.
[16:32] <alvnnnn> Is all "universe" software supposed to be free?
[16:32] <vol7ron> gnome-terminal --tab-with-profile=foo --tab-with-profile=bar
[16:32] <san_> I am unable to login to gmail from ubuntu, tried both chrome and firefox and did a search on the internet
[16:32] <vol7ron> how do you point to foo?
[16:32] <beautifulrose> hey ..any one with a profound knowledge of distributed systems
[16:32] <beautifulrose> on*
[16:32] <guntbert> alvnnnn: about what package are you talking?
[16:33] <alvnnnn> virtualbox-3.2
[16:33] <bazhang> beautifulrose, what does that have to do with ubuntu support?
[16:33] <vol7ron> is setting the focus of a tab in gnome-terminal, not an option?
[16:33] <user1_> vol7ron:  combine two commands : shift_ctrl+t and alt+1 and make a new command
[16:34] <guntbert> alvnnnn: the virtualbox in the repos *is* open source (OSE) - the one with the PUEL license is only in a ppa
[16:34] <bullgard4> alvnnnn: Ubuntu has several software package repositories: Main, Restricted, Universe, and Multiverse. The first two are officially supported and are available by default. Universe contains free and open source software that is not officially supported. Multiverse contains nonfree/open source software.
[16:34] <vol7ron> user1_ i'm trying to do it from within a shortcut
[16:35] <san_> I am unable to login to gmail from ubuntu, tried both chrome and firefox and did a search on the internet , plz help
[16:35] <user1_> vol7ron: you can do it with system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts
[16:36] <IdleOne> san_: getting any errors?
[16:36] <vol7ron> user1_ alt+1 is what I want, but is there a way to do it from the command line?
[16:36] <san_> IdleOne: nothing
[16:36] <IdleOne> san_: clear your browsing history and cookies
[16:36] <IdleOne> try again
[16:36] <san_> Did that , but no help
[16:36] <user1_> vol7ron : alias
[16:37] <IdleOne> san_: try creating a new profile in firefox?
[16:37] <vol7ron> user1_, ahh so create the alias and execute that with -e?
[16:38] <user1_> vol7ron: can even store it in bashrc
[16:38] <san_> IdleOne: how do i do that?
[16:39] <vol7ron> user1_, so in my .bash_aliases what would be alt+1?
[16:39] <vol7ron> user1_, alias foo='alt+1' ?
[16:39] <IdleOne> san_: I don't use firefox so I don't remember
[16:40] <san_> IdleOne: I tried google chrome and opera too
[16:40] <sourcemaker2> my notebook crashs with a initramfs related problem
[16:40] <sourcemaker2> PANIC! /dev/mapper/sourcemaker-root not found
[16:41] <user1_> vol7ron: on command line everything is hex equivalent of key . find it and then use
[16:42] <vol7ron> user1_ ahh
[16:42] <vol7ron> user1_, thank you
[16:43] <Helloer> hello, why i have shift as a? when i click shift i have a.. rotfl
[16:43] <Alan502> Hey, firestarter has an option that says "disable events from port" on the events tab. How do I enable those notifications again?
[16:43] <abhi_nav> san_, can you login from another computer with firefox?
[16:43] <Alan502> Helloer, lol, do all other keys work well?
[16:43] <Helloer> yesa:a|
[16:44] <san_> yes, from the same computer on windows
[16:44] <Benkinooby> hi, i am searching for a ubuntu program, that allows me to draw technical scetches. i am studying a technical course an i want to write my summaries on computer. what can u recommend me besides incskape/gimp?
[16:44] <Benkinooby> i am trying dia now
[16:44] <Alan502> Helloer, hmmm have you tried selecting a different keyboard layout?
[16:44] <abhi_nav> san_, which addons you have installed on ff? if noscript is installed make it 'allow all of this page permanently' for google and gmail
[16:45] <rdavila> Hi guys, I've a problem with a Logitech Clearchar Headset, it works, but the sound is very slow, and the volumen control is up to max
[16:45] <padhu> Benkinooby: qcad?
[16:45] <san_> abhi_nav: I am not able to login from chrom and opera too, so this canot be addon specefic
[16:45] <abhi_nav> san_, ok
[16:45] <abhi_nav> san_, try disabling your ubuntu firewall?
[16:46] <Benwa> in wich package can i find mail ?
[16:46] <Benwa> the command mail
[16:46] <jpeura_> who nin*
[16:47] <san_> abhi_nav: how do i do that, is there any command?
[16:47] <abhi_nav> san_, sudo ufw disable
[16:47] <Benkinooby> padhu: thank u, but this is not what i am looking for.
[16:47] <guntbert> !info mailutils | Benwa
[16:47] <Benkinooby> padhu: never mind
[16:47] <Benwa> guntbert→ thanks
[16:47] <^Alberto^> salve
[16:47] <^Alberto^> hello
[16:48] <rapha> what cheap PCI-E graphics card can you recommend for Ubuntu (no NVIDIA/ATI which needs proprietary drivers ... Intel or something like that would be nice)
[16:48] <Guest60220> how can i split cue files in ubuntu?
[16:49] <Pupeno> When Ubuntu is installing packages, it asks whether you want to install new configs or not. One of the options is to background the process and examine the situation manually. I did that. How do I get the install process back?
[16:49] <guntbert> Benwa: you're welcome :-) and if you type that command the system will tell you the package
[16:49] <delinquentme> can someone give me a quick run down of the differences between installing a program via * browser download * vs. * sudo-apt get *
[16:49] <abhi_nav> Pupeno, fg
[16:49] <Pupeno> abhi_nav: that didn't do it.
[16:49] <Benwa> guntbert→ oh, very useful!!
[16:49] <Benwa> :)
[16:50] <abhi_nav> Pupeno, after doing bg it shows if any process is in background or not check that
[16:50] <san_> abhi_nav: Thanks , but still no luck
[16:50] <abhi_nav> san_, :(
[16:50] <bazhang> delinquentme, always use the package manager and the repos, a read of the manual would help you
[16:50] <bazhang> !manual | delinquentme
[16:50] <guntbert> delinquentme: if you use the package manager (apt*) it will keep you updated and manage the dependencies as well
[16:50] <Pupeno> abhi_nav: no process was put on background.
[16:51] <abhi_nav> san_, have posted your issue on fourm? It wll be better.
[16:51] <abhi_nav> Pupeno, then process is complete.
[16:51] <Pupeno> abhi_nav: no, it's not.
[16:51] <san_> abhi_nav: ok, May be I should do that
[16:51] <abhi_nav> Pupeno, it is
[16:51] <Pupeno> abhi_nav: no, dpkg is running.
[16:51] <splashote> what to do with a  kernel panic "not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block 0,0" ? the german forum is down..
[16:51] <Pupeno> abhi_nav: found out. dpkg starts another shell. exit is what one must do.
[16:51] <abhi_nav> san_, it wll also save your time telling new helper the same issue again and again and to type so many lines ;) :p
[16:51] <abhi_nav> Pupeno, :)
[16:53] <delinquentme> guntbert, can i use the package manager to download programs?
[16:53] <leon> y
[16:54] <guntbert> delinquentme: about what program are you talking?
[16:54] <delinquentme> actuallly! i think i just found it in the software center
[16:54] <delinquentme> sqlite database browser
[16:54] <guntbert> delinquentme: :-)
[16:55] <delinquentme> guntbert, what if it didnt show up in the browser?
[16:55] <delinquentme> could i still use the ubuntu software tools to manage it / keep it up to date
[16:55] <delinquentme> browser = SEARCH sorry
[16:56] <guntbert> delinquentme: there are programs for many purposes in the repositories - there is rarely a need to download one from somewhere else
[16:56] <guntbert> !compile | delinquentme but
[16:57] <delinquentme> !packages
[16:58] <delinquentme> guntbert, cool thanks
[16:58] <guntbert> delinquentme: no problem :)
[16:58] <nikolam> my radeon free driver just got crazy
[16:58] <nikolam> i was watching fome youtube video
[16:58] <nikolam> and sudenly everything got freezing
[16:59] <nikolam> and it is spitting not something at the console
[16:59] <nikolam> bah
[16:59] <guntbert> !enter | nikolam
[16:59] <user1_> any specialist on ubuntu 10.4 and usb 3.0 support?
[16:59] <nikolam> Xorg using 100 percent and nothing (sshed to it)
[17:00] <nikolam> guntbert, thans for reminder....
[17:01] <nikolam> How to report radeon free driver problem/ debug information then. I am on 10.04 LTS 64bit
[17:01] <nikolam> I suppose it have to do something with playing flash in firefox after an hour or something, but I am not sure
[17:02] <Riotta> hi, does nfs sharing between two ubuntu machine need open ports on router for nfs is yes what are these ports?
[17:03] <tibman> yoyoyo gangstas, I made it to ubuntu!!!
[17:03] <Riotta> sharing in local network
[17:03] <brotard> i am not sure if you need to open any ports if its on LAN
[17:03] <nikolam> I could reboot machine (seems like radeon driver problem or something
[17:04] <nikolam> But I do not know how to report a bug now.
[17:04] <steffan> tibman: is there something you need help with?
[17:04] <brotard> lol this channel has sooo many idlers
[17:05] <bobo123> is there something I can do to let games that run in full screen use the whole screen instead of just a small square in the middle and black around it?
[17:05] <tibman> not entirely, I had some issues on my ubuntu 10.04 install that no one was able to help me with, but I was able to resolve the issues and wanted to spread the knowledge
[17:06] <guntbert> !bug | nikolam
[17:06] <nikolam> I guess its not about package but radeon graphics card driver
[17:06] <user1_> any specialist on ubuntu 10.4 and usb 3.0 support?
[17:06] <kens> Simple question: I'm helping someone with a new Ubuntu system. What is the equivalent of the Redhat style command chkconfig --levels 345 httpd on. Sorry I'm not familiar with Ubuntu at all
[17:07] <bobo123> so that when I run in fullscreen a game like Monsterz, it switches the resolution to 640x480? I use nvidias drivers with 1600x1200
[17:07] <kens> I'd like to make the httpd daemon auto start
[17:07] <guntbert> nikolam: that driver will also be in a package
[17:07] <ikonia> kens: use update-rc.d for that
[17:07] <kens> Thanks
[17:09] <nikolam> ok, sending bug for xserver-xorg-video-radeon guntbert
[17:09] <tibman> i just got ubuntu to work on my pc but only 1 of my hard drives are showing up, does anyone know how to fix this?
[17:09] <wanderingi> im trying to install lampp on my ubuntu machine but the first step is to enter su and the password. Am i correct in saying this should be the admin password?
[17:09] <guntbert> nikolam: seems plausible :-)
[17:10] <user1_> has anyone used kingston 256gb pendrive on ubuntu 10.4
[17:12] <ikonia> user1_: why don't use just ask the "real" question
[17:12] <rocket16> Can 3D sound effect be made in Ubuntu, like Windows?
[17:12] <rocket16> I was sad to see that even Windows has this effect, via Realtek Control Centre. What is the process for Ubuntu?
[17:12] <ikonia> rocket16: ubuntu supports surround sound yes
[17:13] <rocket16> ikonia: Oh, thanks friend, :) How to turn this on?
[17:13] <bobo123> the real question: 42?  ;-)
[17:13] <ikonia> rocket16: you have to have hardware that supports it
[17:13] <user1_> ikonia: i have a 256gb kingston pendrive . when i attach it on my netbook with ubuntu 10.04 it shows up the volume. now i copy some stuff into it and unmount.
[17:13] <rocket16> ikonia: I have a 3D Effect-Headphone. Will it work on there?
[17:13] <ikonia> user1_: ok
[17:13] <ikonia> user1_: that's not a question though
[17:13] <ikonia> rocket16: oh, you mean like software emmulation ?
[17:14] <tibman> rocket16: goto system, preferences, then click on sound. then the hardware tab and you can change your output from there
[17:14] <user1_> ikonia: when i mount it again the data doesnt show up but used space is shown as the size of copied object . where is the data?
[17:14] <ikonia> user1_: how are you mounting it
[17:14] <rocket16> ikonia: I tried, but it still sounds like 2D. And yes, I mean software emulation, :)
[17:14] <ikonia> rocket16: I'm not aware of 3d sound software emmulation, you'll have to see if the device (headphones) have linux support and specfic equiremetns
[17:14] <user1_> ikonia: it's mounted when attached by daemon i suppose
[17:15] <rocket16> tibman: Well, I already tried, with no apparent success. Just four profiles, and nothing else.
[17:15] <ikonia> user1_: what file system is on it ?
[17:15] <user1_> ikonia: msdos / fat
[17:15] <rocket16> ikonia: Well, it is never clearly mentioned on the pack whether the Linux support is there. Also, I tried online, with nothing well. Still thanks for your help, :)
[17:16] <ikonia> user1_: umount it, and manually mount it
[17:16] <tibman> rocket16: I have about 20 profiles, try getting the drivers specific to what ever sound card you are using
[17:16] <user1_> ikonia: even then the same problem
[17:16] <wanderingi> im trying to install a tar file to /opt but i dont have permissions to write to this directory. I use the su command and my password but this isnt making any difference
[17:16] <ikonia> user1_: cd into the file system where it is mounted and pastebin the output of "du -h" please
[17:17] <ikonia> !sudo | wanderingi
[17:17] <user1_> ikonia: it has fat and no partitions and it's directory size is 16384 and not 4096
[17:17] <ikonia> user1_: how can it have no partitions
[17:17] <ikonia> user1_: it must have a partition for ou to be able to mount it
[17:18] <guntbert> ikonia: the usb key of user1_  formatted like a floppy?
[17:18] <user1_> ikonia: when i formatted it it was done for FAT without partitions except for MBR
[17:18] <terry_> How to type spanish in ubuntu
[17:18] <ikonia> user1_: that's the issue then
[17:19] <ikonia> user1_: it needs a partition
[17:19] <ikonia> guntbert: possible
[17:19] <tibman> later everyone, off to try to install xubuntu on my p3
[17:19] <terry_> How to type spanish in ubuntu?
[17:19] <terry_> Using english keyboard
[17:20] <user1_> ikonia: ok you mean FAT with how many partitions. can i do with ext4 also?
[17:20] <ikonia> user1_: no - I mean it needs a partition with any file system you want
[17:20] <vol7ron> how do you find files in a specific directory, w/o searching subdirectories
[17:20] <terry_> How to type spanish in ubuntu?
[17:20] <terry_> How to type spanish in ubuntu?
[17:20] <terry_> Using english keyboard
[17:20] <ikonia> vol7ron: find -x
[17:20] <tibman> at the login screen, change your language to spanish
[17:21] <terry_> I dont have login screen
[17:21] <ikonia> terry_: how do you login ?
[17:21] <tibman> then log out and you will have one
[17:21] <abhi_nav> tibman, :D lol
[17:21] <terry_> It does automatically
[17:22] <user1_> ikonia : i will use gparted and paritition it into 2 parts one with ext3 and another with fat and then come back to you
[17:22] <ikonia> terry_: system-> keyboard
[17:22] <tibman> in the upper right hand corner of your screen you will have a small symbol for power, click it then choose log out
[17:22] <vol7ron> ikonia, agh why couldn't my eyes find 'xdev' in the man? cheers
[17:22] <ikonia> terry_: system->preferences->keyboard
[17:22] <tibman> ikonia, good call, that would be easier
[17:22] <ikonia> vol7ron: not a problem
[17:22] <rapha> Another question...
[17:23] <rapha> Does anybody know how to get a USB floppy drive to automount under 10.04?
[17:23] <vol7ron> ikonia, though it didn't work
[17:23] <steffan> rapha: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB#Automounting
[17:23] <ikonia> vol7ron: should do
[17:23] <terry_> No other languages there
[17:23] <terry_> other than english
[17:23] <user1_> rapha: USB floppy . :) who invented it?
[17:24] <frank82vt> How can i open a url file internet shortcut from windows in ubuntu?
[17:24] <dellph> hello is it possible to talk to mic and output it to speaker?
[17:24] <vol7ron> ikonia: nah, for some reason it is still searching subdirectories
[17:24] <terry_> No other languages there
[17:24] <terry_> ???
[17:24] <rapha> user1_: i dont know but he was a genius :P
[17:24] <ikonia> terry_: comeone - use a bit of thought
[17:25] <ikonia> terry_: hit "add"
[17:25] <terry_> Thanks ikonia
[17:25] <emura> Any chance someone in this channel has worked with an Echo Audio PCMCIA sound hard under Lucid?
[17:25] <terry_> Thanks ikonia
[17:25] <ofgj> hey this may be a stupid question but i am bit confused at the moment... so: if i set TEST="A B" in a bash script then calling a command (testcommand $TEST) makes it think this was one parameter, how to get "testcommand" take A and B as separate parameters? thanks in advance
[17:25] <user1_> rapha: i would say everyone to quit floppy cd dvd blue ray and switch to usb 3.0 . age of compactness.
[17:26] <HolaHola> Hello, how would I make a shared folder with only terminal commands?
[17:26] <daniel_> ola
[17:26] <daniel_> puta
[17:26] <ikonia> ofgj: try #bash
[17:26] <daniel_> xdxdxdxdxxd
[17:26] <HolaHola> k
[17:26] <ofgj> ikonia: ok
[17:26] <daniel_> k no es coña jajaajja!
[17:26] <daniel_> xd
[17:26] <daniel_> tQm
[17:26] <daniel_> xd
[17:26] <FloodBot1> daniel_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:26] <ikonia> daniel_: please stop that
[17:26] <vol7ron> ikonia, -xdev only restricts to the file system, not the top directory
[17:26] <terry_> Spanish allowed here?
[17:26] <rapha> steffan: thanks for the link ... actually after looking at it I'm not sure if the problem is automounting. When I attach the drive and plug in a floppy, the drive shows up under "Computer", but double-clicking it does nothing. When I *manually* do "mount /dev/sde /mnt" it works. But I can't tell these non-technical users that ... any idea why the double-clicking doesn't work?
[17:26] <ikonia> vol7ron: sorry, I actually thought that's what you wanted
[17:27] <terry_> Spanish allowed here?
[17:27] <terry_> Spanish allowed here?
[17:27] <ikonia> vol7ron: in that case just do "ls | grep file
[17:27] <ikonia> toscalix: no
[17:27] <ikonia> oops
[17:27] <ikonia> terry: no
[17:27] <ikonia> !es | terry
[17:27] <FloodBot1> ikonia: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:27] <daniel_> k es esto? ay alguien español aki?
[17:27] <ikonia> daniel_: please stop that
[17:27] <rapha> user1_: well, you do need backward compatibility with outdated technology sometimes - so kudos to the guy who built these usb floppy drives.
[17:27] <vol7ron> ikonia, yeah i just wish i could do it with find :(
[17:27] <vol7ron> ikonia, i might be able to with -maxdepth -
[17:27] <vol7ron> ikonia, i might be able to with -maxdepth 0
[17:27] <ikonia> oooh, clever
[17:28] <user1_> rapha :  agree to that
[17:28] <frank82vt> How can i open a url file internet shortcut from windows in ubuntu?
[17:29] <Tommi---> Hi guys, could somebody tell me where to create the libjavaplugin_oji.so  symbolic link for firefox? Thanks. (ubuntu 10.04 - Default FF)
[17:30] <vol7ron> ikonia, -maxdepth 1
[17:30] <ikonia> vol7ron: nice trick
[17:30] <vol7ron> ikonia, sorry just trying to make a uniform script -- thanks for your help
[17:30] <ikonia> vol7ron: you helped yourself
[17:30] <Lalitha> Is lubi to safe to convert my wubi ? Please tell me if there are any problems...
[17:31] <vol7ron> ikonia, but -xdev/-mount also helped :)
[17:34] <atticus> hi all
[17:34] <steffan> Tomcat_ha: '/programs/mozilla/plugins' or similar depending on your system
[17:34] <atticus> i have a question
[17:34] <steffan> atticus: hi. please ask
[17:34] <atticus> when i play .mkv video files the picture freezes
[17:34] <atticus> im using ubuntu 10.04 and vlc media player
[17:34] <Tomcat_ha> uh that must be the wrong person you are highlighting steffan :B
[17:34] <steffan> Tommi---: '/programs/mozilla/plugins' or similar depending on your system
[17:35] <steffan> Tommi---: sure was, sorry
[17:35] <ghoti> Can anyone point me to background on using usb devices as network adapters?  `ifconfig -a` shows me a device named "usb0" in Linux, but I don't know what driver/module handles this, etc.  How can I find out the background of this?
[17:35] <frank82vt> How can i open a url file internet shortcut from windows in ubuntu?
[17:35] <steffan> Tomcat_ha: sorry, not a good day with TAB today
[17:35] <xangua> atticus: using the latest vlc¿¿ 1.1 I believe
[17:36] <atticus> yes
[17:36] <Tomcat_ha> the cursed tab key
[17:36] <belkinsa> Ghoti: I think dmesg should show you it.
[17:36] <user1_> frank82vt: what is so compelling for you to do that. just write a script to extract url from it and add firefox . it will open
[17:37] <ghoti> belkinsa: dmesg does indeed show me the interface, but not when this functionality was introduced to Linux, or whether the driver depends on Linux-only bits of the kernel...
[17:38] <toni> Hi, how do you download Msn Messenger?
[17:39] <ljsoftnet> toni: you wana use MSN Messenger?
[17:39] <Thopter> Is there an alarm clock program for linux that instead of using sound, changes the brightness of the computer screen?  I'm looking for something that I can activate when I go to bed, it will slowly reduce the screen brightness all the way to off, and then slowly increase brightness at a specified time
[17:39] <belkinsa> Ew, MS....
[17:39] <xangua> toni you can conect to msn with empathy, pidgin, emesene, amsn, kopete, kmess, anything left¿
[17:39] <toni> ljsoftnet: yes i do
[17:39] <om26er> toni, the default messenger in empathy i.e. empathy support msn chat but audio/video are  not supported but you could try a better messenger for msn i.e. amsn in sofware center
[17:39] <sanguenet> i have ubuntu 10.04 and win7 in my pc, how can i uninstall ubuntu and restore win7 boot?
[17:39] <ljsoftnet> toni: you can download it, but you can't install it
[17:39] <om26er> sanguenet, how did you install ubuntu?
[17:40] <atticus> with wine it works
[17:40] <lee_> is there no more wine doors??
[17:40] <faisal> hello
[17:40] <h3n> hi
[17:40] <toni> ljsoftnet: i tried to download it off of msn home page, but i dont no what to do after that
[17:40] <sanguenet> to install in other machine
[17:40] <faisal> any one knows how to enable wifi on ubuntu
[17:40] <om26er> sanguenet, did you install it using wubi?
[17:41] <dellph> hello is it possible to talk to mic and output it to speaker?
[17:41] <Thopter> toni: programs made for windows generally won't run on ubuntu without running Wine also
[17:41] <sanguenet> om26er, wubi is a live cd?
[17:41] <Lalitha>  Is lubi to safe to convert my wubi ? Please tell me if there are any problems.. My friend wants to use lubi on his wubi. Please tell me if it is safe or not..
[17:41] <xangua> toni you can try emesene(gnome) or kmess(kde) for better msn experience
[17:41] <sanguenet> om26er, sorry my english, im brazilian hehehe
[17:41] <toni> How can i download MSN messenger?
[17:41] <om26er> faisal, just click on the network icon in the top panel and if there is a wireless network found it should be listed there click and you are online. or to install the driver open system>administration>hardware drivers
[17:41] <h3n> i'm dual booting windows XP and ubuntu usig the grub bootloader. when i try to boot my windows XP partition, my computer just reboots. anyone know why this is?
[17:41] <om26er> sanguenet, no wubi is installed from inside windows.
[17:42] <belkinsa> toni-Go the Ubuntu Forums and look it up.  You have to have Wine for this.
[17:42] <xangua> sanguenet: if you used wubi just remove it from your sofwtare list in windows
[17:42] <faisal> it shows wirless disabled
[17:42] <faisal> it was running before
[17:42] <om26er> sanguenet, if you installed ubuntu from live cd. then I dont actually know what to do here.
[17:42] <darko3d> im getting an iPAd tomorow and was wondering if anybody has any experience with plugin it to a ubuntu machine?
[17:42] <faisal> and is working on win 7
[17:42] <toni> Wine? whats that?
[17:42] <sanguenet> om26er, yeah i used ubuntu livecd
[17:43] <Traveler> hi
[17:43] <Thopter> toni: wine is a program that will let you run windows .exes on ubuntu
[17:43] <belkinsa> Wine allows you use and run Windows programs on Linux.
[17:43] <om26er> faisal, right click on the network icon and see if there is a 'tick' before 'wireless netork'
[17:43] <toni> Thopter: how do i look it up?
[17:43] <om26er> faisal, it might have got disabled
[17:43] <xangua> toni did you read what i tell you or did you just ignore me¿¿
[17:43] <ljsoftnet> toni: go to "Ubuntu Software Center>" Search for amsn and give it a try
[17:43] <faisal> om26er: its faded
[17:43] <Thopter> toni: you can get wine through Synaptic Package Manager
[17:44] <belkinsa> Toni: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=313
[17:44] <csmith1994> hi
[17:44] <toni> Thank you! :)\
[17:44] <ghoti> toni: WINE provides the necessary libraries and execution environment to run Windows software without actually emulating a "windows box".  So it's not exactly an emulator, but lets you run Windows software sort of as if it were native.
[17:44] <belkinsa> Toni: nevermind, sorry, but you might need it
[17:44] <csmith1994> on lucid here, wondering how i can boot from usb
[17:44] <Thopter> Is there an alarm clock program for linux that instead of using sound, changes the brightness of the computer screen?  I'm looking for something that I can activate when I go to bed, it will slowly reduce the screen brightness all the way to off, and then slowly increase brightness at a specified time
[17:44] <ghoti> Thopter: we saw the question, just nobody had an answer.
[17:44] <om26er> csmith1994, you want to install on a usb?
[17:45] <rouslan> Is it recommended to use ext4 for all partitions (except for /boot and /tmp - ext2)?
[17:45] <Lalitha>  Is lubi to safe to convert my wubi ? Please tell me if there are any problems.. My friend wants to use lubi on his wubi. Please tell me if it is safe or not..
[17:45] <toni> So, i HAVE to download Wine befor MSN Messenger?
[17:45] <Thopter> ghoti: yes, and it scrolled up, and new people have come in since then, so I'm reposting, thanks
[17:45] <belkinsa> Yes.
[17:45] <ghoti> Thopter: you might be able to build something using ACPI, if you can control that from a shell script you can run using Cron.
[17:45] <csmith1994> i want to install another variety of linux but i plug in a usb and reroute my bios to boot from usb but i think linux is blocking it
[17:45] <ljsoftnet> toni: have u tried what i told you
[17:45] <Lalitha> gokulakrishnaks~jqfiao2mb@KIMI*#2007 +
[17:45] <h3n> i'm dual booting windows XP and ubuntu usig the grub bootloader. when i try to boot my windows XP partition, my computer just reboots. anyone know why this is?
[17:45] <xangua> toni no, you can conect to msn with empathy, pidgin, emesene, kopete, kmess, amsn, etc!!
[17:45] <Traveler> Firestarter has a white box around it.How can this be fixed?
[17:45] <ghoti> toni: do you want to run Messenger-the-application, or Messenger-the-protocol?
[17:46] <lee_> toni >> easy thing to do is google ' play on linux'.. download the 1 for the os your using.. install,, and the rest is straight forward<<
[17:46] <toni> ljsofter: not yet, but im going to, im net to this, so i dont no how to get to certian stuff.
[17:46] <fluppi> privet
[17:46] <faisal> om26er: output of ifconfig only shows eth0 and lo not wlan0 which was present before
[17:46] <Thopter> toni: you don't need Messenger to use MSN chat
[17:46] <ljsoftnet> toni: you know where "Ubuntu Software Center" is?
[17:46] <belkinsa> Toni: Read stuff on this (Wine)...it will help you.  The Ubuntu Forums and the Wine site can help with this.
[17:46] <toni> ljsoftnet: no i dont
[17:46] <csmith1994> the main question is: I have ubuntu installed, how can I boot from usb?
[17:47] <darko3d> im getting an iPAd tomorow and was wondering if anybody has any experience with using the iPAD on a ubuntu machine? is there an itunes equivalant
[17:47] <belkinsa> You have to make a Live USB.
[17:47] <ljsoftnet> toni: go to Applications>Ubuntu Software Center
[17:47] <lee_> (( PLAY ON LINUX )) google this TONI, and download the 1 for the OS your using
[17:47] <belkinsa> _lee/!google
[17:48] <belkinsa> lee_/!google
[17:48] <rouslan> What will happen when an update needs access to /boot (kernel update or kernel module addition) and it does not exist? Will there simply be an error message?
[17:48] <csmith1994> can anyone help me
[17:48] <h3n> i'm dual booting windows XP and ubuntu usig the grub bootloader. when i try to boot my windows XP partition, my computer just reboots. anyone know why this is?
[17:48] <toni> ljsoftnet: ok
[17:50] <lee_> h3n.. u might have to run a fix on your xp,,
[17:50] <h3n> lee_ alright
[17:50] <h3n> thanks
[17:50] <faisal> somebody help me bring up my wifi
[17:51] <faisal> plz
[17:51] <onadal> hi all
[17:51] <h3n> faisal: install windows 7
[17:51] <onadal> I have a problem with my ubuntu 10
[17:51] <lee_> fasisal,, u download your hardware drivers??
[17:52] <faisal> how i confirm that drivers are not installed
[17:52] <faisal> it was working in ubuntu before
[17:52] <darko3d> has anyone here gotten the iPAD to work on ubuntu
[17:52] <Pirate_Hunter> h3n, what kind of advise is that install windows 7 specially on an ubuntu channel?
[17:52] <lee_> administration,, hardware drivers.. it will do a search
[17:52] <Pirate_Hunter> !wifi | faisal
[17:53] <onadal> I`ve been updating my ubuntu 10, and now I can`t connect to internet..... my wireless connection is not detected
[17:53] <ZeroOne> The Intel GMA500 graphics chipset. Anyone got any experience with that on Ubuntu?
[17:53] <h3n> Pirate_Hunter: it wasnt advice, it was more of a joke.
[17:53] <faisal> it shows no proprietary drivers are found on this system and nothin else is shown
[17:54] <h3n> Pirate_Hunter: you must be a little slow!
[17:54] <onadal> faisal, do u have problems with wireless connection?
[17:54] <nicofs> is anyone here familiar with mobile broadband? my connection isn't working properly. sometimes i get connected instantly, sometimes the connection only works after trying several times. sometimes it doesn't work at all - yet if i delete the connection and set up a new one sometimes this solves the problem. i just don't see a pattern there. any ideas?
[17:54] <IdleOne> h3n: Please stick to the topic and don't insult people
[17:54] <faisal> wlan0 is disappeared
[17:54] <lee_> laptop or PC??
[17:54] <faisal> enable wireless is faded
[17:54] <onadal> Faisal, i have the same problem
[17:55] <onadal> when i turn on my wireless conection on my laptop, nothing happens
[17:55] <faisal> lspci is listing correct adapter
[17:55] <steffan> onadal: have you already taken a look at the wireless documentation to try and troubleshoot?
[17:56] <onadal> faisal what ubuntu version do u have
[17:56] <faisal> yeah
[17:56] <faisal> 10.04
[17:56] <onadal> me too
[17:56] <abhi_nav> onadal, is your wireless network normal or hidden one?
[17:56] <faisal> compaq persario c700
[17:56] <onadal> is normal my wireless connection
[17:56] <faisal> what?
[17:56] <abhi_nav> ok
[17:56] <onadal> i`ve been connected before update my ubuntu
[17:57] <onadal> and now i can´t access to my wireless
[17:57] <faisal> i dont know its normal or hidden
[17:57] <Yonitg> Hi this might be impossible (I hope not), but using aptitude, how do I get a list of packages that WERE NOT automatically installed, but are installed?
[17:58] <onadal> faisal if u´ve been connected before update, ur wireless is not hidden
[17:58] <abhi_nav> faisal, you can check it from your routers(or modem) configuration
[17:58] <faisal> Atheros Communications Inc. AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[17:58] <faisal> i directly installed 10.04
[17:58] <faisal> not updated
[17:58] <faisal> first time on this laptop
[17:59] <lee_> apt-get wifi radar
[17:59] <onadal> oh I see.... i´ve been connected when i installed....
[17:59] <onadal> but when u update the ubuntu version ur connection is lost
[18:00] <abhi_nav> Yonitg, what you are up to?
[18:00] <lee_> are there any broken packages in package manager?
[18:00] <faisal> E: Couldn't find package wifi
[18:00] <onadal> there´s no tutorial how to resolve this problem
[18:00] <belkinsa> lee_: you could check
[18:00] <lee_> ? check ?
[18:01] <Yonitg> abhi_nav: I want to do that ^
[18:01] <Yonitg> Hi this might be impossible (I hope not), but using aptitude, how do I get a list of packages that WERE NOT automatically installed, but are installed?
[18:01] <onadal> i only connect with wireless.... so i have to use windows again to connect to internet
[18:01] <belkinsa> by going Edit>Fix Broke Packages.
[18:01] <belkinsa> Broken*
[18:01] <faisal> i cant use windows
[18:01] <onadal> why
[18:01] <faisal> ihate windows
[18:01] <onadal> i have both
[18:01] <lee_> i know,, it was a suggestion to the person that upgraded
[18:01] <onadal> me too, but if u have no choice
[18:01] <belkinsa> Oh, sorry, here person, that might help.
[18:02] <Pirate_Hunter> Is there a way to get wine outputting sound through pulse instead of alsa?
[18:02] <faisal> if it is driver problem then it should not work at all
[18:02] <onadal> these are the reason why i have go use windows again
[18:02] <belkinsa> I must lol at that quit.
[18:02] <kielanmatt> hello ANYONE knows why RHYTMWEB doesnt work?
[18:02] <kielanmatt> or has anyone got it working
[18:03] <lee_> u can configure wine / audio . to do that pirate
[18:03] <nicofs> is anyone here familiar with mobile broadband? my connection isn't working properly. sometimes i get connected instantly, sometimes the connection only works after trying several times. sometimes it doesn't work at all - yet if i delete the connection and set up a new one sometimes this solves the problem. i just don't see a pattern there. any ideas?
[18:04] <onadal> when i turn on my laptop, wireless led is on, but i cant connect to internet, and i turn it off, and then turn it on again but nothing happend, the led of my wireless won´t turn on
[18:04] <faisal> my wireless button is not working too
[18:05] <faisal> but it is showng on blue
[18:05] <faisal> no red
[18:05] <faisal> constant blue
[18:05] <xangua> Pirate_Hunter: try eric's ppa https://launchpad.net/~eric-astor/+archive/epastor
[18:05] <Kapli> Hi, I don't have any sound in flash, running ubuntu 10.04 and google chrome, no sound in firefox either
[18:05] <onadal> it´s obviously that no one will help us today
[18:05] <onadal> i see
[18:05] <faisal> yeah
[18:06] <faisal> can any body interpret dmesg output
[18:06] <abhi_nav> !weekend
[18:06] <faisal> ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
[18:06] <Traveler122> How can I edit sudoers?
[18:06] <abhi_nav> that is what I got when I asked  my question in #ubuntu-motu
[18:07] <kielanmatt> hello ANYONE knows why RHYTMWEB doesnt work?
[18:07] <ghoti> Traveler122: You may have a "visudo" or "sudoedit" on your path.  Use that.
[18:08] <onadal> faisal where are u from
[18:08] <faisal> pakistan
[18:08] <darko3d> ajavid: links, samples......
[18:08] <darko3d> has anyone here gotten the iPAD to work on ubuntu
[18:08] <onadal> oh!! so far away from here
[18:08] <abhi_nav> faisal, you are 'near' to me. ;)
[18:08] <faisal> from where?
[18:08] <onadal> Argentina
[18:09] <wildc4rd> evenin all
[18:09] <faisal> can u understand dmesg output
[18:09] <onadal> no.. what exactly mean?
[18:10] <faisal> it showss kernel messeges
[18:10] <faisal> ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
[18:10] <soadkombucha> That means your wireless isn't working?
[18:10] <faisal> yeah
[18:10] <onadal> did u reset ur wireless router?
[18:10] <soadkombucha> What's your wireless card?
[18:11] <lee_> faisal :: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download/stable/    << download a stable wifi driver >>
[18:11] <faisal> Atheros Communications Inc. AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[18:11] <faisal> lspci output
[18:11] <onadal> lee_ I cant do tht, cause i cant connect to internet
[18:11] <faisal> im wrking on u lee
[18:11] <lee_> but ur online ,, here?
[18:11] <^Jay2^> lol
[18:12] <^Jay2^> save it in your flash drive dude
[18:12] <soadkombucha> download it and put it on a flash drive
[18:12] <onadal> lee_ i´m working under windows again
[18:12] <soadkombucha> onadal: Download a deb package
[18:12] <soadkombucha> OR a tarball
[18:12] <soadkombucha> Put it on removable media
[18:12] <soadkombucha> And boot into linux
[18:12] <lee_> are u having xp prob,, or wifi prob?
[18:12] <xangua> faisal: what module are you using'¿¿ ath9 i believe will work fine
[18:12] <slidinghorn> !enter | soadkombucha
[18:12] <lee_> ONADAL
[18:13] <faisal> ath5k
[18:13] <onadal> Lee_ when i turn on my laptop, wireless led is on, but i cant connect to internet, and i turn it off, and then turn it on again but nothing happend, the led of my wireless won´t turn on
[18:13] <onadal> this problem is when i use ubuntu
[18:14] <onadal> i´ve been connected before update ubuntu 10
[18:14] <lee_> kk,, go to  :: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download/stable/  :: downlaod a stable driver and save for when u boot into linux::  be sure to take a screen shot of the instructions for installation //
[18:15] <lee_> seems like u need some sort of connection from linux ,, even to fix packages..
[18:16] <onadal> may be... but how can fix that..... i instelled linux ok, i´ve been connected, but when ubuntu finished the update program, i restarted ubuntu, and the problem starts
[18:17] <Pirate_Hunter> hmmm weird sound is not being sent to my speakers I can see it in pulse playing but not going to speakers
[18:17] <nicofs> i can't get my mobile broadband connection going. can anyone help?
[18:17] <JMBP> can i help me
[18:17] <pHro_> my gnome keeps locking up, is there a place where i van view some logs to tell me what happened?
[18:17] <slidinghorn> !ask | JMBP
[18:17] <faisal> how to install linux headers
[18:18] <onadal> JMBP u can help urself
[18:18] <onadal> lol
[18:18] <JMBP> i need one server in spanich
[18:18] <onadal> JMBP where are you from
[18:18] <faisal> how to install linux headers
[18:18] <lee_> use your either cable to connect,, when in linux.. open package manager and in options ud find 'fix broken packages'.
[18:18] <JMBP> i from peru
[18:18] <slidinghorn> !repeat
[18:19] <onadal> i speak spanish
[18:19] <slidinghorn> JMBP, you can try in #ubuntu-es
[18:19] <darko3d> has anyone here gotten the iPAD to work on ubuntu
[18:19] <JMBP> yes i speak spanish
[18:19] <lee_> vodafone nicofs??
[18:19] <pHro_> this channel is a clusterfuck
[18:19] <AnxiousNut> help, pino doesnt work properly, when i choose shorten link, it tells me there's nothing to shorten!
[18:19] <tktiddle> Hi im trying to compile pd-extended, I'm in the src die and theres a configure.in and a config.h.in file but when I try ./configure i get bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[18:19] <onadal> JMBP de donde eres
[18:19] <nicofs> lee_: vodafone germany
[18:19] <JMBP> bueno soy de peru
[18:19] <onadal> yo de argetina, que problema tienes
[18:20] <nicofs> lee_: sorry, no wrong... it's O2
[18:20] <slidinghorn> !es
[18:20] <onadal> yo puedo traducirlo
[18:20] <pHro_> no bueno
[18:20] <rCX> JMPB: try #ubuntu-lat
[18:20] <lee_> u get connection after making a new connection??
[18:20] <thune3> pHro_: by lock up you mean "stops working completely", or "hangs for a few seconds here and there"?
[18:20] <nicofs> lee_: sometimes. but not this time.
[18:21] <JMBP> bueno quiero saber si con x chat puedo charlar de una pc a otro por una linea de red
[18:21] <abhi_nav> !en | JMBP
[18:21] <steffan> Is there a command to get a list of all manually installed packages using aptitude?
[18:21] <tktiddle> Hi im trying to compile pd-extended, I'm in the src die and theres a configure.in and a config.h.in file but when I try ./configure i get bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[18:21] <pHro_> thune3, by lockup i mean, the mouse works, but the mouse does not respond to clicks, i can use the keyboard to logout and back in, but no mouse movement, this happened on 2 different laptops
[18:22] <onadal> JMBP si puedes
[18:22] <onadal> consulta la lista de canales
[18:22] <pHro_> thune3, it has been so bad that I have been booting into my vista partition just so i dont need to restart gnome once an hour
[18:22] <ImaLamer> !es | onadal
[18:22] <lee_> its because differ i.p address is used each connection.. and the first 1 is saved..  search on-line for o2 dongle on linux for help with it.. u might find a forum with a solution
[18:22] <AnxiousNut> how do i shorten urls in pino?
[18:22] <onadal> How to fix packages on UBUNTU 10.04
[18:22] <onadal> anyone knows?
[18:23] <steffan> onadal: what do you mean by fix packages?
[18:23] <de> #roekoe
[18:23] <BluesKaj> !pino
[18:23] <nicofs> lee_: the problem is provider independent and i have an integrated modem.
[18:23] <onadal> steffan yes
[18:23] <BluesKaj> AnxiousNut, what's pino?
[18:23] <de> excuse me brothers I seem to be in the wrong channel
[18:23] <lee_> huh?? the problem is o2?
[18:23] <de> n00b allert
[18:23] <bobo123> :-D
[18:24] <AnxiousNut> BluesKaj, a microblogging client for twitter
[18:24] <de> need to get to here #roekoe.be
[18:24] <de> any tips?
[18:24] <steffan> de: '/join #roekoe.be'
[18:24] <nicofs> lee_: no, it doesn't work with either sim i try... E-Plus or O2... i can go and borrow other provider's SIM cards - the problem would still be the same...
[18:24] <de> cewl thankx
[18:25] <Kapli> Hi, I have a problem, I have no sound in flash, I am running ubuntu 10.04 and google chrome, got no sound in firefox either
[18:25] <BluesKaj> AnxiousNut, oh , ask in #twitter
[18:25] <nicofs> lee_: my mobile broadband connection is like on random: sometimes it works instantly, sometimes i need to try several times - and sometimes it doesn't work at all...
[18:25] <pHro_> i hate this channel
[18:25] <thune3> pHro_: i'm confuces, you say the mouse moves but doesn't click and in the same line say there is no mouse movement.
[18:26] <lee_> prob no coverage?
[18:26] <thune3> pHro_: forget it
[18:26] <ujvarosya> hello
[18:26] <nicofs> lee_: metropolitan area of munich. my smartphone has coverage with same sim...
[18:27] <ujvarosya> anyone can help me, what should I do with my floppy drive under 10.4 to work?
[18:27] <ujvarosya> BIOS and cables are ok
[18:28] <JediMaster> does anyone know if ubuntu supports USB monitors?
[18:28] <quentin> hi every body. I'm having trouble with aspect ratio. at 4:3 all circles look like horizontally elongated ovals. At 16:9 all circles look like vertically elongated ovals.
[18:28] <JediMaster> yes, it's bizzar, but I have a USB monitor, literally one cable, power and data and touch panel all through one usb cable (with two connectors for the power)
[18:28] <slidinghorn> ujvarosya, someone will be glad to help if they can solve your issue.  Try giving as much detail as you can including what you need, error msgs, etc (and do it on one line)
[18:29] <Alan502> Hi :) What could I use to measure my monthly bandwidth consumption?
[18:29] <wanderingi> i have installed lampp and put the files i want to be the website in the necessary directories. However all the files are not writeable. I will be doing a lot of editing and creating new files over the next few days, how can i manage this without needing to use sudo in a terminal window every time
[18:29] <oCean_> ujvarosya: try loading kernel module: "sudo modprobe floppy"
[18:30] <abhi_nav> Alan502, look in your isp web site
[18:30] <slidinghorn> Alan502, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=155384
[18:30] <Snicksie> Alan502, you can install vnstat too
[18:30] <oCean_> ujvarosya: if it loads fine, check dmesg output. I *think* a /dev/fd0 should be created
[18:30] <Alan502> abhi_nav, my isp doesn't have such service :( i just want a program that can count the data transfer on an specific interface
[18:30] <BluesKaj> wanderingi, maybe you should ask in #ubuntu-server
[18:31] <Alan502> Snicksie, i'll google it, does it count data transfer?
[18:31] <quentin> is their a way I can figure out the aspect ratio of my screen?
[18:31] <abhi_nav> Alan502, generally isp have such facility on their website.
[18:31] <Alan502> abhi_nav, my isp in such country doesn't
[18:31] <lee_> nicofs :: read this forum for help ::  http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/wireless-internet/124368-linux-broadband-dongles.html
[18:31] <Snicksie> yep Alan502, it's a terminal application, just install by typing sudo apt-get install vnstat in your terminal
[18:31] <abhi_nav> Alan502, :(
[18:31] <ujvarosya> slidinghorn: yes, sorry...so when the mount and automount don't work and when I try to format the disk I got this: Error creating partition table: helper exited with exit code 1: BLKRRPART ioctl failed for /dev/fd0: Invalid argument
[18:31] <ujvarosya> oCean_: thanks, but still not work
[18:32] <abhi_nav> Alan502, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-linux.html
[18:32] <oCean_> ujvarosya: is "floppy" module loaded?
[18:32] <ujvarosya> oCean_: where can I see this?
[18:32] <Sam_Fisher> Howdy Ya'l
[18:32] <AhmedBH> Hey all, can anyone tell me a cool software to download :p I am new here
[18:32] <oCean_> ujvarosya: type: lsmod | grep floppy
[18:32] <Alan502> abhi_nav, i was looking at that post. AFAIK most of that apps just measure my upload and download speeds and not exactly my data transfered
[18:32] <wpecker> Hi, I can't setup NAT internet sharing with ubuntu karmic host and win xp guest, can someone help?
[18:32] <wpecker> .:20·18·13:. «wpecker» .:19·32·56:. «wpecker» I don't have internet on the guest, I can't even ping the host machine
[18:32] <wpecker> .:20·18·13:. «wpecker» .:19·35·05:. «wpecker» http://pastebin.com/hKUe5MkM here is the ifconfig -a output
[18:32] <wpecker> .:20·18·13:. «wpecker» .:19·35·12:. «wpecker» I'm using vmnet2
[18:32] <wpecker> .:20·18·13:. «wpecker» .:19·36·01:. «wpecker» I turned off DHCP in it's settings because it failed everytime, I gave it a manual IP like 172.16.48.5
[18:32] <FloodBot1> wpecker: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:33] <Sam_Fisher> Happy Fourth of July fellow Americans!
[18:33] <Alan502> Snicksie, does vnstat reset after each reboot?
[18:33] <abhi_nav> Alan502, ok. then use software suggested by other users above
[18:33] <mastaofdisasta> hey guys, how can I get 10.04LTS to boot without X11???
[18:33] <ujvarosya> oCean_: floppy 53016 0  - so it isn't loaded?
[18:33] <xangua> AhmedBH: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras to install flash, codecs, fonts, etc
[18:33] <AhmedBH> mastaofdisasta: X11 ?
[18:33] <oCean_> ujvarosya: actually it means it *is* loaded
[18:33] <AhmedBH> xangua: thanks lemme see i guess i have it
[18:33] <xangua> Sam_Fisher: please keep on the topic
[18:34] <ujvarosya> oCean_: then where is the problem?
[18:34] <lee_> ahmedBH,, coolest software u can get is here :: http://www.playonlinux.com/script_files/PlayOnLinux/3.7.6/PlayOnLinux_3.7.6.deb
[18:34] <AhmedBH> xangua: ubuntu-restricted-extras is already the newest version
[18:34] <mastaofdisasta> hey guys, how can I get 10.04LTS to boot without X
[18:34] <AhmedBH> lee: thanks
[18:34] <xangua> AhmedBH: then open the software center and look for interest apps :S
[18:34] <wpecker> Hi, I can't setup VMWARE NAT internet sharing with ubuntu karmic host and win xp guest, can someone help? I don't have internet on the guest, I can't even ping the host machine http://pastebin.com/hKUe5MkM here is the ifconfig -a output, I'm using vmnet2, I turned off DHCP in it's settings because it failed everytime, I gave it a manual IP like 172.16.48.5
[18:34] <oCean_> ujvarosya: but you still have no /dev/fd0 ? (check ls -al /dev/fd0) You can also check "dmesg | grep floppy" or "dmesg | grep fd"
[18:34] <AhmedBH> hhhhhhhhhhh okay
[18:34] <Alan502> Snicksie, the description on synaptic says "daily", can it keep it monthly?
[18:34] <Sam_Fisher> xangua, bite me you communist
[18:34] <Snicksie> Alan502, no
[18:34] <AhmedBH> lee: what is that i am downloading
[18:34] <Snicksie> yep Alan502, just vnstat -m in the terminal and it gives monthly
[18:35] <lee_> play on linux,, trust me.. it will make things easier
[18:35] <Alan502> Snicksie, ok thanks a lot :)
[18:35] <ImaLamer> Just like an American :{    .... try #defocus
[18:35] <AhmedBH> does playonlinux supports installing exe games ? like in windows i can install or windows live messenger ?etc
[18:35] <lee_> yea
[18:36] <Sam_Fisher> My 10.04 install has worked flawlessy for months and now is running 100% CPU. Been here before and always ended up reinstalling completely. HELP!
[18:36] <fixmeargh> got a problem.  ubuntu did an update and now it's stuck on the boot loading screen and never goes further.  how can I fix this
[18:36] <ImaLamer> Playonlinux is mostly wine with hacks through right?
[18:36] <slidinghorn> question was directed @ me, but ujvarosya is trying to mount a floppy, here's his issue: when the mount and automount don't work and when I try to format the disk I got this: Error creating partition table: helper exited with exit code 1: BLKRRPART ioctl failed for /dev/fd0: Invalid argument
[18:36] <ujvarosya> oCean_: pastebin.com/FYv8hJmG
[18:36] <AhmedBH> imalamer: I have no idea
[18:36] <wpecker> ~~~Does anyone know how can I check if a subnet is routed/available for a vmware NAT setup? (ubuntu host, winxp guest)
[18:37] <Megaviv> Hello
[18:37] <lee_> i think alot of work from the wine developers have gone into 'play on linux'
[18:37] <AhmedBH> Well seems if i am wasting the downloading usage by downloading something like that then :P i have tried wine by the way
[18:37] <AhmedBH> it sucks
[18:37] <ImaLamer> I'm using wine just fine, playing WoW, etc... try #winehq if there are problems
[18:37] <Megaviv> Hi everybody
[18:37] <Megaviv> pretty new in here
[18:37] <Sam_Fisher> I have System Monitor open and nothing is running very high in Processes
[18:37] <AhmedBH> ooh thanks
[18:37] <nicofs> lee_: my modem is supported - in fact my netbook model is even sold as a linux version... but apparently the standard ubuntu connection manager is not working properly...
[18:37] <ImaLamer> AhmedBH, i don't think the problems are wine...
[18:37] <Megaviv> I'm having a Lenovo 3000 N200 Laptop
[18:38] <Megaviv> And I've been wondering lately about installing Ubuntu instead of my windiws
[18:38] <oCean_> ujvarosya: so it is actually trying to communicate with the device. Not sure what is happening
[18:38] <Sam_Fisher> Megaviv, welcome please ask question in one post
[18:38] <Megaviv> Now I'm just not so that sure what version should I install
[18:38] <wpecker> ~~~Anyone has a clue why wouldn't DHCP work while using it with vmware? (ubuntu host, winxp guest)
[18:38] <AhmedBH> ncofs: just a second, try this nm-applet
[18:38] <abhi_nav> vnstat -u -i eth0 give me this error = Error: Unable to read database "/var/lib/vnstat/eth0".
[18:38] <abhi_nav>  any idea?
[18:38] <Carb0n> which part of ubuntu is responsible for drawing/loading the desktop wallpaper? like is it nautilus?
[18:38] <AhmedBH> Imalamer: Well i ran Safari and its slow even the program plus apps on it !
[18:39] <Sam_Fisher> Carb0n, no way
[18:39] <Megaviv> ok
[18:39] <Megaviv> So
[18:39] <Megaviv> My question
[18:39] <Megaviv> is
[18:39] <FloodBot1> Megaviv: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:39] <ImaLamer> Megaviv,  - maybe start by googling your make / modle number and then the latest ubuntu version to see if there are known porblems
[18:39] <fixmeargh> safari is ultra slow even on windows
[18:39] <Megaviv> What version of Ubuntu should I install, the one for Desktops or the One for netbooks? As, essentaly, my computer is none of them... XD
[18:39] <nvermeer> Haybegone
[18:39] <Sam_Fisher> Megaviv, bad boy
[18:39] <fixmeargh> so why double torture yourself by using it in wine
[18:39] <Megaviv> What did I do?
[18:39] <ujvarosya> oCean_: thank you..:)
[18:39] <lee_> u could try the dongle driver under wine
[18:39] <AhmedBH> fixmeargh: yeah it is but works fine with GOOD network, you know what i mean !
[18:39] <ImaLamer> AhmedBH, you are trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist :)
[18:39] <Sam_Fisher> Megaviv, why isn't it a netbook?
[18:39] <lee_> just a suggestion.. i cant be sure
[18:40] <fixmeargh> slow except for it's ultra slow load time
[18:40] <xangua> Megaviv: if is not a notebook and neither a server, desktop ........
[18:40] <Megaviv> Well
[18:40] <xangua> netbook*
[18:40] <Sam_Fisher> My 10.04 install has worked flawlessy for months and now is running 100% CPU. Been here before and always ended up reinstalling completely. HELP
[18:40] <AhmedBH> Imalamer: No i am here so someone can tell me something interesting to downlod :)
[18:40] <AhmedBH> download
[18:40] <Megaviv> Googling is exactly what I've done
[18:40] <Megaviv> But I have found nothing
[18:40] <Megaviv> and thought here it'll be worthwhile asking
[18:40] <Megaviv> so here I am...
[18:40] <slidinghorn> !enter | megavv
[18:40] <Megaviv> Does anybody have an answer, please?
[18:40] <fixmeargh> any way to fix ubuntu being stuck on the boot loading screen?
[18:40] <ImaLamer> AhmedBH, running safari though wine is silly when you can natively run Chrome is all :)
[18:40] <AhmedBH> Megaviv: what is it
[18:40] <Sam_Fisher> Megaviv, we will answer when we have one
[18:41] <Megaviv> OK.
[18:41] <Megaviv> I am sorry.
[18:41] <dugger5688> Chrome is also awesome.
[18:41] <Megaviv> I will not use it as panctuation...
[18:41] <Sam_Fisher> Megaviv, what processor is it running?
[18:41] <AhmedBH> ImaLamer: Yes well but Java doesnt works so WELL on it so i use Firefox 3.6.6 i gues
[18:41] <Megaviv> Chrome's really great...
[18:41] <slidinghorn> Megaviv, what *is* your computer if it doesn't fall under either category?  What are its specs (HDD space, RAM, etc)
[18:41] <abhi_nav> who suggested vnstat here? I need help
[18:41] <ImaLamer> AhmedBH, no java problems in chrome here :/
[18:41] <Megaviv> Ahm... Well, let me check, just a sec, thx
[18:41] <AhmedBH> Lmalamer: i tell you something
[18:42] <DJones> Megaviv: If you've not got a netbook and its not a server, you should install the desktop version
[18:42] <dugger5688> Well I don't notice with a quad core but on slower computer Chrome REALLY shines.
[18:42] <Megaviv> Intel core 2 Duo CPU T5250 1.50GHz
[18:42] <guntbert> !ot | dugger5688
[18:42] <ImaLamer> Megaviv I would get the 10.04 desktop and start there
[18:42] <thune3> Sam_Fisher: have you looked at what processes are consuming cpu resources?
[18:42] <Sam_Fisher> Megaviv, sounds like a laptop
[18:43] <AhmedBH> ImaLamer: I dont know why i have issue with a flash player all the time over youtube, i cant even play stop or volume doesnt work ! i mean on some videos it does on like HD usually others it doesnt or lets say old ones, why ? i am on x64 by the way Lucid
[18:43] <Pirate_Hunter> figured out why sound wasn't being set to speaker weird enough the settings changed so that the output was going to stereo input dont even know how that happened
[18:43] <Megaviv> Which means 3GHz at all.
[18:43] <dugger5688> Megaviv: first, no it doesn't. And second you want ubuntu-desktop
[18:44] <Megaviv> Well
[18:44] <Sam_Fisher> thune3, yes and Gnome sytem monitor is 36%, firefox 10% and 2% for many others
[18:44] <Megaviv> Is there anybody out there?
[18:44] <ImaLamer> AhmedBH, I should be clear and say I use Sun's Java and not open Java - thought I hear compiz + emerald mess with the play buttons
[18:44] <Sam_Fisher> Megaviv, patients PLEASE
[18:44] <Megaviv> It feels like speaking to the wall...
[18:44] <slidinghorn> Megaviv, try to understand there are 1400+ people in here -- lots of issues to get to...please be patient
[18:44] <AhmedBH> Lmalamer: Well strange
[18:44] <abhi_nav> hey to whomesover it may concern, the person suggested vnstat. I just used it and it is really a great aps . Thakyou!
[18:44] <ImaLamer> Megaviv, go grab the ubuntu 10.04 desktop live CD, boot it up and see if it works
[18:44] <sebastian> Anyone have a Dell 15 series laptop running Ubuntu? How's it running? Good? Every driver working?
[18:44] <DJones> Megaviv: If you've not got a netbook and its not a server, you should install the desktop version
[18:45] <ImaLamer> ... am i on ignore? :{
[18:45] <AhmedBH> Lmalamer:   i mean sun's java, thats what i use uhh and its about flash player i mean i cant even pause it uh
[18:45] <Sam_Fisher> Megaviv, we are all helping several people and ourselves at any given time
[18:45] <inspiron> why is ubuntu so slow with file operations? I'm using ext4. and deleting many files or moving files is many times slower than even on windows
[18:45] <abhi_nav> ImaLamer, no
[18:45] <henux> How can I view rented DVD movies on Ubuntu 10.04 ?
[18:45] <henux> Totem says that it is missing some plugins
[18:45] <AhmedBH> Lmalamer:  i even tried deleted the .micromedia folder etc but yet same
[18:45] <abhi_nav> !dvd > HendriXXX
[18:45] <Megaviv> Hopefully my question is so foolish the ver. doesn't matter anyway...
[18:45] <abhi_nav> !dvd > henux
[18:45] <Sam_Fisher> henux, that's your que to install them
[18:45] <inspiron> Preparing to delete... Well I don't want to you prepare just delete them
[18:45] <xangua> henux: do you have libdvdcss2 installed¿¿ you can get it from medibuntu if not
[18:45] <xangua> !medibuntu
[18:45] <fixmeargh> ext4 is not performance based.  it's made more for servers.  try ext2 or at most ext3.  even reiserfs is better
[18:45] <lee_> slap the DVD in and play on VLC?? lol
[18:46] <Sam_Fisher> Megaviv, troll
[18:46] <ImaLamer> AhmedBH, I don't get why you have gone that far...
[18:46] <AhmedBH> Lmalamer:  HUH
[18:46] <fixmeargh> preparing to delete.. sounds like windows to me
[18:46] <AhmedBH> Lmalamer:  i mean i couldnt do anything else so far!
[18:46] <ImaLamer> AhmedBH, Suns' Java + official flash + chrome has worked fine
[18:46] <abhi_nav> !tab > AhmedBH
[18:46] <slidinghorn> Megaviv, what *is* your computer if it doesn't fall under either category?  What are its specs (HDD space, RAM, etc) -- repeating myself, as you haven't answered.  If someone's trying to help you, don't complain that no one's answering you
[18:46] <samalex>  /msg nickserv identify triton01
[18:47] <abhi_nav> samalex, no space before '/'
[18:47] <oCean_> samalex: OOPS
[18:47] <samalex> crap
[18:47] <oCean_> samalex: time for new pw
[18:47] <slidinghorn> samalex, change your pw on IRC as fast as you can
[18:47] <Sam_Fisher> slidinghorn, Megaviv is just a troll.
[18:47] <samalex> not sure how ...
[18:47] <abhi_nav> samalex, it happends . ;) change it immidiatly. :D :p
[18:47] <ImaLamer> samalex, easy fix - check #freenode for help :)
[18:47] <hiems> Hello... I am trying to add an application to Gnome's menu via command line... After creating a .desktop file and putting it under /usr/share/applications/ have I to do something else?
[18:47] <AhmedBH> abhi_nav: i saw
[18:47] <h3n> "sudo rm -rf /"
[18:47] <abhi_nav> AhmedBH, hmm
[18:47] <Megaviv> So, assuming you're all dead / drown deep in the toilet bowl, I have no other option rather than leaving this room, sadly... Bye bye, then.
[18:47] <slidinghorn> !danger
[18:48] <slidinghorn> !ops | h3n
[18:48] <AhmedBH> abhi_nav: and i use TAB by the already ! what a disopointment
[18:48] <abhi_nav> AhmedBH, I dont understand you
[18:48] <ImaLamer> Megaviv, you are becoming unwelcome because you aren't reading the tons of answers
[18:48] <henux> Installing libdvdcss2 didn't help
[18:48] <newrmore> is there anyone knows how can i change the screen to fullscreen at VirtualBox?
[18:48] <henux> Any other ideas?
[18:48] <AhmedBH> abhi_nav: I mean some times the flash player annoys me
[18:48] <Zaxim> hello all
[18:48] <abhi_nav> slidinghorn, lol my god :D :D :D
[18:49] <xangua> henux: it should, do you have codecs installed already too¿¿
[18:49] <fixmeargh> virtualbox will still blackbox it as it's resolution limited
[18:49] <ImaLamer> AhmedBH, all flash players or certain ones? (Chrome + YouTube should not use flash at all btw)
[18:49] <abhi_nav> still laughing a lot
[18:49] <AhmedBH> abhi_nav: it gets crazy and i cant even click for pause or play or increase the volume, likely NOTHING :)
[18:49] <oCean_> abhi_nav: just drop it?
[18:49] <henux> xangua: no idea
[18:49] <Aldebaran> Ubuntu 10.04 does not recognize me the dvd player, anyone can help me?
[18:49] <ubuntu> what should I do plzzz? I install Windows and all grub disappeared
[18:49] <abhi_nav> oCean_, ok. fine now
[18:49] <ImaLamer> henux, what type of rented moves?
[18:49] <abhi_nav> AhmedBH, you are talking abotu issue? I thaout you are talking about that !tab one? I dont know what yoru issue is
[18:49] <soadkombucha> ubuntu: Make a GRUB live CD and install GRUB
[18:49] <henux> ImaLamer: DVD movie
[18:49] <AhmedBH> abhi_nav:  what do you mean youtube and chorme doesnt uses flash i mean i have this problem over adobe flash player on youtube Especially!
[18:49] <xangua> henux: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:49] <xangua> or like some one told you, try with vlc
[18:49] <slidinghorn> newrmore, I think the default (as long as you have an actual desktop environment installed) command is the right control key & F
[18:50] <dugger5688> ubuntu: here's a guide; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[18:50] <henux> xangua: Okaythanks
[18:50] <Sam_Fisher> thune3, you still here?
[18:50] <xangua> ubuntu reinstall grub
[18:50] <ImaLamer> AhmedBH, Chrome is using HTML5
[18:50] <xangua> !grub2 | ubuntu
[18:50] <AhmedBH> abhi_nav: thats what i use TAB to control running video over web uh
[18:50] <soadkombucha> henux: Or the ubuntu software center
[18:50] <AhmedBH> abhi_nav: OMG really!
[18:50] <abhi_nav> AhmedBH, dont know. lets stop it.
[18:50] <soadkombucha> Is anyone else on Lucid using Software Center 2.1.4?
[18:50] <AhmedBH> abhi_nav: okay so dont i need flash on it ?
[18:50] <Sam_Fisher> My 10.04 install has worked flawlessy for months and now is running 100% CPU. Been here before and always ended up reinstalling completely. HELP
[18:50] <thune3> Sam_Fisher: 36% for system monitor makes zero sense unless your CPU is throttling and running at 100Mhz.
[18:51] <Zaxim> I'm having trouble in a 32 bit server ed of Lucid, loading an XFS filesystem. modprobe xfs, returns Error inserting xfs [PATH.ko]: Cannot allocate memory
[18:51] <samalex> good thing I typed the password in wrong :)  not sure where the space came from on entering the channel
[18:51] <abhi_nav> AhmedBH, I dont understand your issue and I dont know solution for flash on youtube.
[18:51] <slidinghorn> !anyone | soadkombucha
[18:51] <ImaLamer> Could Sam_Fisher have a kernel issue with throttling?
[18:51] <samalex> first time to use xchat since installing 10.04
[18:51] <AhmedBH> abhi_nav: Okay
[18:51] <hihihi100> hi there, is this a good channel to ask about memory leaks?
[18:51] <IdleOne> !flash > AhmedBH
[18:51] <soadkombucha> slidinghorn: It was just a basic question
[18:51] <soadkombucha> slidinghorn: I wanted to know if I was the only one who preferred it over 2.0.5
[18:51] <Aldebaran> Ubuntu 10.04 does not recognize me the dvd player, anyone can help me?
[18:51] <ImaLamer> AhmedBH is NOT having problems with Flash - Chrome is NOT using flash for YouTube
[18:52] <slidinghorn> soadkombucha, a basic question that is unlikely to get you any help...then you should have asked that specifically.  Not being rude, just trying to make sure you get the help you need
[18:52] <dugger5688> thune3: What are the processes consuming a lot of CPU, (run 'top') In a terminal and you'll usually see the culprit.
[18:52] <Sam_Fisher> thune3, how do i show you a screenshot of Sys monitor?
[18:52] <oCean_> hihihi100: memory leaks in general? Better find a programming channel
[18:52] <soadkombucha> slidinghorn: Not really needing help right now. Unless my sound decides to screw up even after manually compiling my drivers.
[18:52] <ImaLamer> Google is using HTML5... because they are co-sponsors if you will
[18:52] <abhi_nav> samalex, /msg nickserv set password $newpass. to change your password
[18:52] <lindenle1> Hi All I have a rt2870 chipset and it is not working at all in Lucid, can anyone help?
[18:53] <slidinghorn> soadkombucha, for opinions regarding which program is better than another, you can try the bestbot in #ubuntu-bots
[18:53] <AhmedBH> LmaLamer: Thanks for writing for me
[18:53] <ImaLamer> ??
[18:53] <Zaxim> Can anyone help? I'm having trouble in a 32 bit server ed of Lucid and loading an XFS filesystem. modprobe xfs, returns Error inserting xfs [PATH.ko]: Cannot allocate memory
[18:53] <soadkombucha> lindenle1: Manually compile the drivers
[18:53] <soadkombucha> lindenle1: Hold on
[18:53] <abhi_nav> !imagebin >  Sam_Fisher
[18:53] <bhuvi> samalex: thats y u have 2 give ur important commands in the control channel
[18:53] <ImaLamer> Just trying to say you are looking at the problem in the wrong light
[18:53] <Clouse> Hi there all I am trying to netboot ubuntu 10.04 live desktop and it is stopping and asking me to provide a name for this disc. Any one know how to get past this?
[18:54] <thune3> Sam_Fisher: if you have pastebinit installed, you could just run this "top -b -n 1 -d 2 | pastebinit -"
[18:54] <Fanshawe> Hey everybody. I tried to configure LVM to recognise two apparently separate hard drives as one volume. It seems to have worked when I look at the disk usage analyser (with the total space showing up as the sum of both drives) but everytime I get close to 4GB (the space of the first device) I get low space warnings.
[18:54] <bambam_> Hello ! How do I run GUI applications as root ?
[18:54] <slidinghorn> Clouse, which disk?  your HDD?  if so, why do you want to skip it?
[18:54] <trism> ImaLamer: youtube only uses HTML5 if you opt in, and only if the video doesn't contain ads
[18:54] <slidinghorn> bambam_, gksu application-name
[18:54] <soadkombucha> lindenle1: http://rtl-wifi.sourceforge.net/wiki/Installing
[18:54] <Aldebaran> Ubuntu 10.04 does not recognize me the dvd player, anyone can help me?
[18:55] <Zaxim> bambam: use gksudo [prog-name]
[18:55] <KB1JWQ> Fanshawe: Please pastebin the output of the following command: "df; lvs; pvs"
[18:55] <abhi_nav> !gksudo > bambam_
[18:55] <samalex> bhuvi, this was my first time to open xchat upon new install, so i didn't notice I wasn't in the command window when typing ... but as I said the password i entered was one I used years ago, so I'm good :)  had me sweating for a bit.
[18:55] <slidinghorn> !patience Aldebaran
[18:55] <ImaLamer> trism, i see they just changed it... was default in Chrome under linux
[18:55] <Aldebaran> ok
[18:55] <slidinghorn> !patience | Aldebaran
[18:55] <Clouse> slidinghorn: There is not disk, I am booting a live iso over the network
[18:56] <xangua> Aldebaran: or give more details, doesn't work wont help much
[18:56] <Werr> How can I autostart Tomboy Notes minimized?
[18:56] <Zaxim> So no one has a problem with XFS and the latest kernel?
[18:56] <slidinghorn> Clouse, then what is it asking you to provide a name for?
[18:56] <bhuvi> samalex: just my bit of experience
[18:56] <Clouse> slidinghorn: That is what I am trying to figure out
[18:56] <dugger5688> Aldebaran: Almost every DVD drive should work, or are you talking about a physical disk doesn't work in the drive?
[18:56] <Gup> Hi all, I've got a script I want to run on shutdown, I've added it to /etc/rc0.d/ with a K10 prefix, and it does run on shutdown but its not got network access, guess the network must have been brought down by that point.
[18:56] <samalex> yeah, i'll watch it better next time... i wasn't expecting it to auto join #ubuntu when i connected in.
[18:56] <Gup> I dont really understand the run levels or prefixes (Kxx,Sxx) given to the links... what run level and prefix would I need to give the link to have it run ONLY on shutdown but with network access available?
[18:57] <Fanshawe> KB1JWQ: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=XwHvj4C9
[18:57] <xangua> Werr: add the tomboy or gnote applet to the panel
[18:57] <lost> how to remove all update-alternatives from my system please!!
[18:57] <Clouse> slidinghorn: Something has gone wrong somewhere
[18:57] <soadkombucha> lost: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove update-alternatives?
[18:57] <lost> tks gonna try it
[18:58] <soadkombucha> lost: You need to know the exact package names
[18:58] <nicofs> lee_ : i tried wvdial and the error is either modem not responding or no carrier...
[18:59] <Werr> xangua:Startup applications preferences?I don't know what panel.
[18:59] <^Jay2^> kopete isnt working with lucid
[18:59] <lost> sorry it is not a packkage
[18:59] <Zaxim> I think my problem with xfs started when I upgraded mountall
[18:59] <soadkombucha> lost: What is it?
[18:59] <xangua> Werr: right clear in a clear area of the panel> add> search for the tomboy/gnome applet, grab it
[18:59] <Aldebaran> dugger5688 recognizes the reader does not work, I write in the console and eject it says "unable to find or open device for:` cdrom '"
[19:00] <lee_> reboot?
[19:00] <Fanshawe> KB1JWQ: Pastebin posted above.
[19:00] <lost> soad: i need to remove all symbolic link so update-alternatives creates
[19:00] <soadkombucha> lost: I don't knowe
[19:00] <abhi_nav_> what this means? =  Message to ubottu throttled due to flooding
[19:01] <nicofs> lee_ : about to...
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[19:02] <lee_> hmmm,, promoting??
[19:03] <whatTurtle> hi
[19:03] <whatTurtle> what's up
[19:03] <whatTurtle> ?
[19:03] <lost> soad : take a look at this http://paste.ubuntu.com/459183/
[19:03] <abhi_nav> !hi > whatTurtle
[19:03] <whatTurtle> abhi_nav, hi :)
[19:03] <GOPS> Hello World
[19:04] <Zaxim> hmm, I guess no one can help me in here. I'm gonna try the beginner channel. Thanks anyway :)
[19:04] <whatTurtle> does anybody knows where gnome stores file Notes ( the ones you right click add Note)
[19:04] <Werr> xangua:looked for it in usr/bin and it's not there...am I doing something wrong?
[19:05] <xangua> Werr: i do not know what are you doing, i just told you to add a simple desklet to the panel
[19:05] <GOPS> help ping
[19:05] <xangua> mmmm is not desklet, is applet :)
[19:05] <whatTurtle> I right click and added Note and then i am trying to find where it stored the note with no sucsess yet
[19:06] <slinker1> whatTurtle, more than likely in your home folder
[19:06] <whatTurtle> slinker1, i search with grep all around my home directory but still nothing....
[19:07] <nicofs> lee_ : doesn't help. when i try to activate the mobile broadband connection, for a millisecond it changes to the "connecting" icon and then instantly shows "not connected". as if it doesn't even try to connect...
[19:07] <whatTurtle> slinker1, i think it does not stores in a text file but rather in a binary or database format....
[19:08] <whatTurtle> slinker1, grep is running the last 1 hour in my home directory but nothing yet ... grrr
[19:08] <lee_> dodgey dongle or bad service//
[19:08] <slinker1> whatTurtle, looks like .gnome2 apps tomboy
[19:08] <slinker1> whatTurtle, turn on view hidden files
[19:09] <ubuntu_> hello
[19:09] <ubuntu_> I need help
[19:09] <ubuntu_> anyone could help me
[19:09] <hihihi100> hi there: if for the command echo 1|sudo tee /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/buffer_size_kb the answer is 1, it means 1 MB, doesnt it?
[19:09] <abhi_nav> !ask | ubuntu_
[19:09] <whatTurtle> slinker1, no tomboy i mean right clicking and adding notes to files through nautilus in gnome
[19:09] <Werr> Mkay thanks.The firestarter tray icon is in a white box.Is it a bug or smth.?
[19:09] <lee_> ubuntu??  whats the problem <<
[19:09] <thune3> whatTurtle: looks like ~/.local/share/tomboy/ directory
[19:09] <whatTurtle> slinker1, i search through the command line including hidden files and dirs
[19:10] <ubuntu_> I installed ubuntu 10.04 and I made a bad config in STARTUP MANAGER and now I cannot see the boot screen
[19:10] <whatTurtle> slinker1, no tomboy notes but file notes ( right clicking and selecting add Note)
[19:10] <ubuntu_> right now I using a live cd
[19:11] <lee_> re-install
[19:11] <whatTurtle> thune3, sorry but that's tomboy i am curious where nautilus store file or folder notes
[19:11] <murat> slm
[19:11] <whatTurtle> thune3, the type of Notes you put when you right click a file or a folder in gnome....
[19:12] <fcamatti> so no answers at all!
[19:12] <hihihi100> is there any quick translator user in here?
[19:13] <fcamatti> How do I uninstall starup manager and grub from that partition
[19:13] <fcamatti> then I should reinstall grub
[19:13] <whatTurtle> http://library.gnome.org/users/user-guide/2.27/gosnautilus-200.html.en
[19:13] <lee_> sudo apt-get remove grub
[19:13] <lee_> why tho?
[19:13] <fcamatti> but how I`ll proceed
[19:13] <fcamatti> yes I know that command
[19:13] <xangua> hihihi100: google translate¿
[19:13] <fcamatti> but I`m using the live cd
[19:13] <soadkombucha> lee_: Would he want to do sudo apt-get --purge autoremove grub?
[19:13] <hihihi100> well, I mean the firefox addon
[19:13] <tucemiux> my printer keeps printing too light, now it's getting annoying, the ink level is OK, the toner is new, I've only used it around 3 -4 times
[19:14] <lee_> just remove
[19:14] <fcamatti> again
[19:14] <hihihi100> that is based on that google service, yes
[19:14] <xangua> hihihi100: you can search one in addons mozilla web
[19:14] <lee_> why tho?? there wud be more hassle
[19:14] <hihihi100> i know, I already use it. My problem, though, is that I cannot see the translated text
[19:15] <hihihi100> a small window appears on bottom-right, but no text
[19:15] <fcamatti> I install UBUNTU 10.04 with Windows Xp in a DUAL BOOT configuration but then I made a bad configuration setting up the STARTUP MANAGER in UBUNTU and now I cannot choose my OS
[19:15] <fcamatti> BECAUSE there`s no screen
[19:15] <soadkombucha> fcamatti: Make a GRUB install disc
[19:15] <slidinghorn> fcamatti, hold shift during boot -- if grub doesn't come up, you need to make a grub install disc...see below
[19:15] <slidinghorn> !grub2 | fcamatti
[19:15] <hihihi100> I have to highlight that small window with the mouse to see the translated text
[19:15] <lee_> super grub loader <<
[19:15] <thune3> whatTurtle: file notes go into a file in ~/.local/share/gvfs-metadata/  for my home folder my note went into a a file called home
[19:17] <Sam_Fisher> thune3, hey had to do the dishes! So I ran TOP and found Photorec running. I ran it yesterday and it si still there. Sudo Kill photrec
[19:18] <thune3> Sam_Fisher: so you are back to sane cpu usage now?
[19:18] <slidinghorn> fcamatti, you're welcome, but please don't PM folks without permission first.
[19:18] <slidinghorn> !pm
[19:18] <whatTurtle> thune3, OK it was a binary file as i thought and i found it COOL THANKS dude
[19:18] <Sam_Fisher> thune3, no asking if sudo kill phtorec will do it?
[19:18] <whatTurtle> thune3, May the source be with you :-)
[19:18] <silentx> thune3: and all .. Hey .. My friend know nothing about ubuntu and I was teaching him how to install ubuntu for the first time online .. then he comes up with this theme ..!! : http://dc04.arabsh.com/i/01671/rklncrvw7be8.jpg : .. Could please tell how this happend ..!!!
[19:19] <Talon_> is there a repository that has updates for libsdl-perl? The one in the repository is way behind and doesn't have the functionality I need, and I can't quite figure how to install it from cpan
[19:19] <slidinghorn> fcamatti, stop PMing me please.
[19:19] <fcamatti> sorry slidinghorn
[19:19] <fcamatti> sorry
[19:19] <whatTurtle> thune3, and yes it is called home :-)
[19:20] <fcamatti> so holding the shift key is not working for me
[19:20] <fcamatti> so how I can so my issue
[19:20] <slidinghorn> facamatti did you make a GRUB install disc like we recommended?
[19:20] <jaem> Hello.  I'm trying to help someone figure out how to access a friend's public files on Ubuntu One, but I'm not using *buntu right now.  Could someone tell me what the domain used for the short-links is?
[19:20] <whatTurtle> thune3, anyway thanks again !!!  for pointing it out Bye Guys
[19:20] <whatTurtle> bye guys
[19:20] <fcamatti> no! How I make a grub install disc
[19:21] <slidinghorn> !grub2 > fcamatti
[19:21] <silentx> Hey .. My friend know nothing about ubuntu and I was teaching him how to install ubuntu for the first time online .. then he comes up with this theme ..!! : http://dc04.arabsh.com/i/01671/rklncrvw7be8.jpg : .. Could please tell how this happend ..!!!
[19:21] <xangua> silentx: that's just a mock up
[19:21] <lee_> fcamatti :: i'll help u with it
[19:21] <Dr_Willis> fcamatti:  any live cd can work as a grub 'install' disk.  if thats what you are asking about
[19:21] <thune3> Sam_Fisher: sure kill it and see
[19:21] <silentx> xangua, no it is not ..!!!
[19:22] <slidinghorn> silentx, It looks like they installed the netbook version...is that a problem?
[19:22] <silentx> slidinghorn, but this is not the theme of the netbook ..!
[19:22] <soadkombucha> silentx: It looks like an app dock
[19:22] <Sam_Fisher> thune3, could you help me with the terminal command to kill photorec?
[19:22] <Sam_Fisher> thune3, http://pastebin.com/MKJz2jKp
[19:22] <xangua> silentx: yes it is, end of discussion
[19:22] <fcamatti> no deal
[19:22] <silentx> slidinghorn, http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent > that what he uses
[19:22] <slidinghorn> Sam_Fisher, run the top command again...then use sudo kill <processnumber>
[19:23] <fcamatti> command !grub2>fcamatti
[19:23] <fcamatti> not working
[19:23] <fcamatti> dr_willis
[19:23] <silentx> xangua, I want to ask .. is this the image of netbook ?
[19:23] <squircle> does anybody know how to mount partitions of dmraid devices that use a GPT partition table? is there an alternative to dmraid?
[19:23] <trueH> \join #ubuntu-de
[19:23] <xangua> silentx: it is a mock up from 2007
[19:24] <Dr_Willis> fcamatti:  the command '!grub2' is a bot command to make the bot print out a factoid
[19:24] <Dr_Willis> !grub2
[19:24] <silentx> xangua, what do you mean by this ?
[19:24] <freehh> how to install vpn
[19:24] <Sam_Fisher> slidinghorn, you win!
[19:24] <Dr_Willis> fcamatti:  see the bot urls it gave
[19:24] <thune3> Sam_Fisher: you had it right anyway, you *can* just do: sudo killall photorec
[19:24] <slidinghorn> silentx, xangua is right...that's a mockup from gutsy
[19:24] <xangua> silentx: it is a MOCK-UP
[19:24] <fcamatti> yes but I`ve already read all that
[19:24] <Sam_Fisher> slidinghorn, any idea why phtorec stayed running? perhaps I shut ti down wrong?
[19:24] <fcamatti> that`s why I`m at this room
[19:24] <fcamatti> because it didn`t work for me
[19:24] <slidinghorn> Sam_Fisher, no idea :-\
[19:25] <Dr_Willis> fcamatti:  then clarify the exact problem you are having and what you cant seem to get working.
[19:25] <silentx> xangua, how i could make mine in the same theme ?
[19:25] <fcamatti> because the main problem
[19:25] <lee_> fcamatti :: go to ::  http://prdownload.berlios.de/supergrub/super_grub_disk_0.9799.iso   <<< you will need a blank disk handy
[19:25] <silentx> sorry to bother you :(
[19:25] <slidinghorn> silentx = trolling.
[19:25] <xangua> silentx: install a dock¿¿ docky, avant, cairo dock
[19:25] <Dr_Willis> fcamatti:  talk to the channel. Not me in PM
[19:25] <slidinghorn> !pm | fcamatti
[19:25] <Dr_Willis> fcamatti:  and  theres no need to hit enter every 3 words
[19:26] <slidinghorn> fcamatti, that's twice you've PMed people without permission
[19:26] <Dr_Willis> fcamatti:  are you even listening to me?
[19:26] <slidinghorn> Dr_Willis, no, he's not
[19:26] <Dr_Willis> well he just triggered my auto-ignore...
[19:26] <slidinghorn> Dr_Willis, he did the same thing to me
[19:26] <silentx> xangua, All those are not the same style .. of docky .. and the panels are not gonna be the same :(
[19:27] <lee_> What i put up should sort it for him DR
[19:27] <peppeuz> hi guys, i'm trying to help my friend to connect is ubuntu to internet with a DSL-300
[19:27] <soadkombucha> Isn't it funto help people who apparently don't pay attention?
[19:27] <xangua> Talon_: try looking for a ppa related to perl in launchpad web
[19:27] <LLStarks> hi, is there anyway to get modules to start on boot again once rmmod'd?
[19:27] <fcamatti> sorry
[19:27] <fcamatti> Dr_Willis
[19:27] <Dr_Willis> LLStarks:  rmmod does not stop them from loading.. it just forces them to unload at that moment.
[19:27] <fcamatti> I can write all again
[19:27] <silentx> xangua, of this dock *
[19:27] <slidinghorn> fcamatti, you triggered his auto-ignore...he's not going to be able to help you anymore
[19:27] <slidinghorn> fcamatti, you need to follow the rules in here
[19:28] <LLStarks> dr_willis, i rmmod'd my iwl3945 and now it won't load unless explicitly modprobed
[19:28] <Dr_Willis> fcamatti:  perhaps edit the text and paste it to some pastebin site.
[19:28] <Dr_Willis> LLStarks:  that shouldent be the case.  rmmod just does it one time
[19:28] <soadkombucha> LLStarks: Add it to your startup file?
[19:28] <Dr_Willis> LLStarks:  you can modprobe it back perhaps
[19:28] <fcamatti> okay
[19:28] <Dr_Willis> LLStarks:  that is weird however.
[19:28] <Bragex9> Can anyone take a look at my samba conf file and tell me why I am not able to share folders? http://pastebin.com/4m3ijL16
[19:28] <lee_> FCAMATTI>> GO TO :: http://prdownload.berlios.de/supergrub/super_grub_disk_0.9799.iso  << YOU WILL NEED A BLANK DISK << THIS WILL BOOT LOAD YOU INTO XP , AND OTHER O.S's
[19:28] <LLStarks> what file determines modules that load upon boot?
[19:28] <frank82vt> already exist a solution for this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/185165?
[19:28] <Dr_Willis> LLStarks:  /etc/modules I think
[19:29] <Dr_Willis> LLStarks:  or add a modprobe whatever   line to /etc/rc.local (dirty way)
[19:29] <LLStarks> thanks
[19:29] <johnny33> i need some help?  i have a problem right now with a monitor possibly and i couldnt shutdown properly. so i just held the power button till it shutdown and went to my old boat anchor crt and now i am here. is there any special commands i need to type in on a terminal after an improper shutdown. running ext4 file service which is supposed to be he best but that is another topic.
[19:29] <soadkombucha> It is /etc/modules
[19:29] <initials> hi friends
[19:29] <xangua> lee_: there is still no grub2 function for supergrub disk i believe
[19:30] <frank82vt> any developer? already exist a solution for this bug its very nice explained the problem there  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/185165?
[19:30] <lee_> he just wants into XP
[19:30] <Dr_Willis> johnny33:  done that befor. Normally the system boots up. and fscks the filesystems. then goes about its business and boots up
[19:30] <slidinghorn> !repeat > frank82vt
[19:30] <initials> hi semua ada org indonesia ngk nie?
[19:30] <initials> hi semua ada org indonesia ngk nie?
[19:30] <abhi_nav> !en | initials
[19:31] <slidinghorn> !indonesia > initials
[19:31] <csmith1994> hi
[19:32] <csmith1994> trying to install windows 7 from usb here, get error message "missing operating system". im running ubuntu
[19:32] <seraf> ыЫы
[19:32] <johnny33> ok thanks Doc.  i used to run some old sparc stations a long time ago and i would have to go and make sure things were ok after something like that.  i just crossed over last year and am never going back to winblows
[19:32] <seraf> Hello)
[19:32] <Dr_Willis> csmith1994:  but.. how is installing windows.. related to ubuntu support?
[19:32] <xangua> !windows > csmith1994
[19:32] <Dr_Willis> johnny33:  sparc station - old skool.  :)
[19:33] <Dr_Willis> johnny33:  with ext3/4 the filesystmes should fsck very fast. worse case. ive had to boot a live cd and fsck them all manually then reboot
[19:33] <Sam_Fisher> Dr_Willis, well you see Ubuntu has windows you look into...
[19:33] <Dr_Willis> Sam_Fisher:  go wash the windows!
[19:33] <csmith1994> Dr_Willis: because i have ubuntu, and not windows, it does not recognize my bootable usb
[19:34] <frank82vt> slidinghorn I will repeat my question each time that chat windows gets full of text. dont think that could be a matter whit that don`t you.
[19:34] <Dr_Willis> csmith1994:  that would be a pc/bios/hardware issue if it cant see the usb as being bootable. I would guess you made it wrongly.
[19:34] <slidinghorn> csmith1994, that's not an ubuntu issue...you need to set your BIOS to recognize USB as a bootable option
[19:34] <valbaca> csmith1994: then it's a problem with your usb, not ubuntu
[19:34] <Sam_Fisher> csmith1994, you don't need windoze to use USB
[19:34] <soadkombucha> No
[19:34] <frank82vt> any developer? already exist a solution for this bug its very nice explained the problem there  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/185165?
[19:34] <soadkombucha> I had the same problem
[19:34]  * Dr_Willis wonders at the legality of a usb-pendrive installing windows...
[19:34] <soadkombucha> GRUB won't recognize a bootable USB
[19:34] <xangua> frank82vt: it says a fix was comminted
[19:35] <soadkombucha> It recognizes a bootable CD
[19:35] <tucemiux> Dr_Willis, you know how to fix printers from printing too light?
[19:35] <Dr_Willis> soadkombucha:  grub wouldent be needed at all. the bios sees the usb.. not grub
[19:35] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: Microsoft releases their own tool
[19:35] <csmith1994> I made the usb using a guide recommended to me by someone on this channel
[19:35] <Dr_Willis> soadkombucha:  they listend to the piratez eh. :)
[19:35] <slidinghorn> frank82vt, #1, a fix was already committed.  #2, it's rude to repeat your question every few minutes when the room is this busy...so please just exercise patience
[19:35] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: Haha
[19:35] <johnny33> thanks you all! gotta go
[19:35] <slidinghorn> csmith1994, again...you need to set your BIOS to allow booting from a USB
[19:36] <frank82vt> slidinghorn ok
[19:36] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: http://store.microsoft.com/Help/ISO-Tool
[19:36] <csmith1994> slidinghorn i did that
[19:36] <tucemiux> my printer prints too light on ubuntu
[19:36] <slidinghorn> csmith1994, where did you get an ISO for windows anyway?
[19:37] <Sam_Fisher> slidinghorn,  shhhh don't ask don't tell
[19:37] <slidinghorn> Sam_Fisher, this ain't the US military...if he got it via illegal means then we can't help him anyway
[19:38] <abhi_nav> windows itleslf is illegal
[19:38] <soadkombucha> abhi_nav: Why do you say that?
[19:38] <csmith1994> slidinghorn from the dvd that came with my friends computer. he made it for me at the library
[19:38] <slidinghorn> abhi_nav, should be..
[19:38] <soadkombucha> It kind of is
[19:38] <xangua> csmith1994: if it doesn't work  then contact microsoft and ask support from them, this is ubuntu's
[19:38] <abhi_nav> slidinghorn, :)
[19:38] <soadkombucha> Windows uses a lot of stuff without saying where it came from
[19:38] <slidinghorn> csmith1994, then you need to talk to the folks in ##windows
[19:38] <abhi_nav> soadkombucha, it was theft from ibm. (whats the exact word here to use for 'theft') it was imb's property
[19:38] <Sam_Fisher> in xchat right clicking an html link tries to open it in Firefox but then says firefox is already open (true) but used to work. HELP!
[19:38] <xangua> csmith1994: that's illegal too
[19:39] <xangua> mmm too much ot
[19:39] <slidinghorn> !ot
[19:39] <Bragex9> Can anyone take a look at my samba conf file and tell me why I am not able to share folders? http://pastebin.com/4m3ijL16
[19:40] <xangua> well is neither offtopic related, we can just not help him
[19:40] <slidinghorn> Bragex9, it would help more if you told everyone what errors you're receiving as well
[19:40] <^Jay2^> this is OT but, anybody here uses a gigabyte 3d aurora case?
[19:41] <slidinghorn> ^Jay2^, #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:41] <lee_> lol
[19:41] <^Jay2^> thanks
[19:41] <Sam_Fisher> What controls the opening of html in Xchat?
[19:42] <Bragex9> Slidinghorn: I get an error message saying "net usershare" returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name "Everyone" to a SID. 01:21. NT_STATUS_INSUFFICIENT_RESOURCES"
[19:44] <slidinghorn> Bragex9, found this on google: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1026668
[19:45] <SuperMiguel> whats the best/easy way to conver avi to wmv???
[19:45] <slidinghorn> !best | supercom32
[19:45] <slidinghorn> oops
[19:45] <slidinghorn> !best | SuperMiguel
[19:45] <SuperMiguel> whats an easy way to conver avi to wmv???
[19:46] <grobe0ba> SuperMiguel: ffmpeg
[19:46]  * prince_jammys waits for !easy
[19:46] <Dr_Willis> SuperMiguel:  ffmpeg,. mencoder. or guis for them
[19:46] <slidinghorn> lol prince_jammys
[19:46] <grobe0ba> aptitude install ffmpeg && man ffmpeg
[19:46] <Bragex9> Slidinghorn: thanks! I will look into it and see if it can solve my problem
[19:46] <Dr_Willis> and read the ffmpeg faq :)
[19:47] <Sam_Fisher> Dr_Willis, read FAQ? what the heck are some kind of... of.. READER!
[19:47] <thune3> SuperMiguel: i have heard "winff" recommended but have never used it. it is in the universe repository.
[19:48] <prince_jammys> barring being threated at gun point, loss of employment, or being offered large sums of cash, I can't see myself wanting to convert anything to wmv
[19:48] <csmith19942> i need help
[19:48] <csmith19942> my flash drive sayas its read only
[19:48] <csmith19942> how can i enable writing and deleting files
[19:48] <Dr_Willis> winff = front end to ffmpeg. I think. I recall being able to see the 'command line' to ffmpeg that the gui uses. So you can sort of 'learn' the options with it
[19:49] <slidinghorn> csmith19942, sudo chmod [permissioncode]
[19:49] <oren> i can't ip assigned to my laptop from the router. no encription. i tried dhclient eth1 but got: No DHCPOFFERS.
[19:49] <slidinghorn> !info chmod > csmith19942
[19:49] <grobe0ba> ffmpeg isn't hard to learn
[19:49] <grobe0ba> takes about ten minutes
[19:49] <grobe0ba> memorizing the codec lists is the hard part
[19:49] <user1_> I am trying to create a fat32 partition on a usb drive which is taking a long time with gparted . why?
[19:49] <csmith19942> well im in lucid so...
[19:49] <csmith19942> and what is the permission code to enable read write and delete
[19:49] <slidinghorn> 777
[19:50] <slidinghorn> csmith19942, ^^
[19:50] <grobe0ba> oren: can you pull an ip if it's wired in?
[19:50] <Dr_Willis> csmith19942:  mount it with the proper options if Root can r/w it. but not users
[19:50] <grobe0ba> slidinghorn: i wouldn't say 777. that's dangerous
[19:50] <grobe0ba> maybe 755
[19:50] <Dr_Willis> csmith19942:  or try installing the 'ntfs-config' tool and run it. and enable read/writeing on external  and internal media.
[19:50] <grobe0ba> or
[19:50] <grobe0ba> do this
[19:50] <grobe0ba> csmith19942: man chmod
[19:50] <user1_> I am trying to create a fat32 partition on a usb drive which is taking a long time with gparted . why? ikonia?
[19:50] <FloodBot1> grobe0ba: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:50] <oren> grobe0ba: i didn't try. before i do that. how can i tell ubuntu that eth0 is wired and not wireless?
[19:50] <Dr_Willis>  you DONT chmod/chown vfat filesystems. or ntfs..
[19:50] <csmith19942> terminal says
[19:51] <grobe0ba> oren: pm me pls
[19:51] <csmith19942> Changin permissions of... "Read only file system
[19:51] <user1_> I am trying to create a fat32 partition on a usb drive which is taking a long time with gparted . why? Dr_Willis?
[19:51] <BluesKaj> oren eth0 is wired by default
[19:51] <grobe0ba> csmith19942: whatever file you're trying to modify is mounted on a read-only system
[19:51] <Dr_Willis> user1_:  i would say use fdisk for such a suimple task
[19:51] <grobe0ba> you can either remount it, or give up
[19:52] <csmith19942> grobe0ba so how can i make it not read only
[19:52] <grobe0ba> what exactly are you attempting to modify?
[19:53] <user1_> Dr_Willis : I am on 256gb usb drive and it is in the middle of creating a paritition while the first of ext4 is created successfully. should i cancel op and start once again
[19:53] <slidinghorn> grobe0ba, he's trying to install windows via USB, but won't take the advice to go to the ##windows channel to do so
[19:53] <grobe0ba> ah
[19:53] <grobe0ba> i thought the channel was #winbl0ws ?
[19:53] <josephnexus> I'm trying to add a PPA, the repo adds nicely, but for some reason i can't get any keys from the keyserver.ubuntu.com server
[19:53] <csmith19942> grobe0ba no im not now im trying to delete the files on the flash drive
[19:53] <josephnexus> any ideas on what could be causing that?
[19:54] <grobe0ba> csmith19942: pm the output of mount to me
[19:54] <prince_jammys> there are pastebins.
[19:54] <xangua> josephnexus: if the keyserver is down you can add the key later
[19:54] <BluesKaj> grobe0ba, we support ubuntu here, there's no need to make disparaging remarks about other OSs
[19:54] <grobe0ba> prince_jammys: then i have to switch windows
[19:54] <prince_jammys> grobe0ba: it's all about you?
[19:54] <grobe0ba> BluesKaj: it was a joke. i'm running windows on this computer
[19:54] <slidinghorn> josephnexus, what error msessages are you getting when you try?  (don't post directly to me though...that way everyone will look @ it)
[19:55] <grobe0ba> prince_jammys: who shoved a dildo up your ass?
[19:55] <BluesKaj> grobe0ba, no matter , so do I , dual boot , but windows haters aren't encouraged :)
[19:55] <josephnexus> i run the apt-key command, it sites there for a while, then it says "gpg: keyserver timed out" followed by "gpg: keyserver receive failed: keyserver error"
[19:55] <prince_jammys> !ops | grobe0ba
[19:56] <sudoman> josephnexus: are you behind a firewall?
[19:56] <josephnexus> not that I'm aware, just a simple run of the mill router with no outbound firewall
[19:56] <oren> BluesKaj: but i think i run dhclient eth0 by mistake
[19:57] <BluesKaj> dhclient and eth0 are fine for wired , oren..are you trying toset up wifi ?
[19:58] <josephnexus> I just verified, I am not behind a firewall, only a NAT device
[19:58] <guntbert> !keyserver | josephnexus
[19:59] <Gorlist> can anyone recommend where I can get a 8.04 LTS source.list from?
[19:59] <user1_> Gorlist: google
[19:59] <Bragex9> slidinghorn: it did not work. I still get the same error. File sharing worked just fine until I upgraded to 10.04. Then the problems started. I have no idea what to do. Maybe I will just do a clean reinstall and see what happens.
[19:59] <nia> HOLA
[19:59] <josephnexus> guntbert, thanks a ton, looks like that worked for me, tried another keyserver and the problem is solved
[19:59] <josephnexus> thanks
[19:59] <nia> q tal estais todos¿?
[20:00] <squircle> !google > user1_
[20:00] <squircle> !es | nia
[20:00] <greezmunkey> Gorlist: you can try here: http://mirrors.cat.pdx.edu/ubuntu-releases
[20:00] <guntbert> josephnexus: you're welcome :-)
[20:00] <josephnexus> estamos bien aqui, pero debes estar usando el canal para los que hablan espanol
[20:00] <nia> can speak spanish please??
[20:00] <guntbert> Gorlist: look at http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[20:00] <squircle> !es > nia
[20:00] <nia> please??
[20:01] <Gorlist> guntbert, thanks
[20:01] <josephnexus> nia, connectate a #ubuntu-es
[20:01] <Gorlist> greezmunkey, thanks again
[20:01] <nia> hello
[20:02] <javinia> hello
[20:02] <sad> Ok, I can't get embedded flash to play.
[20:02] <hihihi100> can any of you tel me whats wrong with the following command to open a tar file? tar -xzvf valgrind-3.5.0.tar.bz2 -C /usr/src
[20:02] <javinia> hola k tal estais todos??
[20:02] <lousygarua> hihihi100, you are using z instead of j
[20:02] <squircle> hihihi100: -z is for gzip, use -j for bz2
[20:02] <slidinghorn> nia, este canal es para el apoyo Inglés solamente. para conseguir el apoyo en español, escriba /join #ubuntu-es esta es la última vez que vamos a decir antes de que tengamos los operadores echarte
[20:02] <hihihi100> tar -xjvf valgrind-3.5.0.tar.bz2 -C /usr/src ?
[20:03] <josephnexus> javinia, utilize el canal para espanol
[20:03] <javinia> hello
[20:03] <Onca> I've toiled endlessly, on this delema, but cannot boost the resolution of my Xorg to 1680 x 1050 @ 60Hz.
[20:03] <lousygarua> hihihi100, yes
[20:03] <josephnexus> Onca, what graphics card do you have?
[20:03] <Onca> it's integrated intel
[20:04] <erghezi> i miss my home partition :(
[20:04] <josephnexus> wasn't there a package needed to add all resolutions to intel cards?
[20:04] <hihihi100> it doesnt work, do I have to add sudo or pat?
[20:04] <hihihi100> apt*
[20:04] <josephnexus> look up intel in synaptic, it should be one of the results there
[20:04] <erghezi> i run mkfs.ext4 instead fsck.ext4 :(((
[20:04] <slidinghorn> josephnexus, no, you need to make an xorg.conf file...see below:
[20:04] <slidinghorn> !res | Jose_Hementas_
[20:04] <slidinghorn> josephnexus, ^^
[20:04] <win_2_linux> software center, upgrade manager, synaptic start but then go gray and quit
[20:05] <Faycan> hi
[20:05] <erghezi> my home partition is now fully remoed
[20:05] <squircle> !hi | Faycan
[20:05] <Onca> I made an xorg.conf file, slidinghorn & josephnexus
[20:05] <Onca> I got that far, but it doesn't utilize the native resolution of my screen
[20:06] <robertzaccour> how do i send a password change request to my email? i recently changed it and may have spelled it wrong, but i know what it should be but its saying invalid password
[20:06] <Jordan_U> erghezi: Ouch, anything that wasn't backed up?
[20:07] <erghezi> Jordan_U:  i dont have any back :(((
[20:07] <guntbert> robertzaccour: your password for what?
[20:07] <squircle> does anybody know how I can mount a GPT partition with dmraid (or with another tool)? or is there a patch that can be applied to dmraid so it supports GPT partition tables?
[20:07] <erghezi> Jordan_U:  140 GB data removed :((
[20:07] <Jordan_U> erghezi: You may be able to recover some files with photorec.
[20:08] <Onca> slidinghorn & josephnexus, I downloaded intel debugging symbols and I created an xorg.conf using a ubuntu tutorial but it willnot exceed a low resolution.
[20:08] <slidinghorn> erghezi see your PMs
[20:08] <slidinghorn> !undelete > erghezi
[20:08] <ddavids> hello all, pls  i have a problem with my network icon, its disappeared and i cant seem to add it at the panel... any ideas pls
[20:09] <robertzaccour> guntbert, irc freenode
[20:09] <erghezi> Jordan_U:  work for lvm too?
[20:09] <robertzaccour> guntbert, i changed it yesterday, i know what it should be, but its telling me its invalid. maybe i spelled it wrong when i changed it
[20:09] <IdleOne> robertzaccour: #freenode can help with that
[20:09] <guntbert> robertzaccour: you found the appropriate channel (#freenode) already :)
[20:09] <Jordan_U> erghezi: I haven't done it specifically but I can't see why it wouldn't.
[20:10] <oren> i can't ip assigned to my laptop from the router. no encription. i tried dhclient eth1 but got: No DHCPOFFERS. - http://paste.ubuntu.com/459199/
[20:10] <ddavids> pls i have a problem with my network icon, its disappeared and i cant seem to add it at the panel... any ideas pls
[20:11] <squircle> !patience | ddavids
[20:11] <slidinghorn> ddavids, right click the panel > "Add to Panel" > find the network manager applet
[20:11] <zohar> hi, i have a display problem - square mouse, can someone help ?
[20:11] <ddavids> slidinghorn, that didnt work
[20:12] <mneptok> !resetpanel | ddavids
[20:12] <slidinghorn> ddavids, then wait for someone with a solution and please don't repeat every few minutes...it's very busy in here and a lot of others have problems that have been waiting patiently
[20:12] <spiky> ddavids: add notification area
[20:12] <Aakash> yo
[20:12] <Aakash> anyone have an eeepc 1201PN?
[20:12] <mneptok> !anyone | Aakash
[20:12] <squircle> !eeepc | Aakash
[20:13] <Aakash> Oh didnt know that existed ;v
[20:13] <Aakash> the irc channel
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[20:13] <mneptok> ActionParsnip: could you please not "yo yo yo" *every single time* you enter the channel?
[20:14] <zus>  can anyone  please help me get facebook working in empathy? the faq only takes me to troubleshooting yahoo. but that works myspaceworks google talk works... facebook not so much
[20:14] <Oer> ActionParsnip, yoyoyo
[20:14] <zus> already tried #empathy  either
[20:14] <ddavids> could someone pls tell me how to reset the panel again?
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> mneptok: if you want. Its like my entrance theme like in wrestling
[20:14] <Oer> !resetpanels
[20:14] <xangua> zus: just select the option to create a 'facebook' account
[20:14] <Oer> ddavids, please remember !resetpanels :-)
[20:15] <ThatGuyOverThere> I'm trying to install BURG. Anybody wanna help me with that?
[20:15] <ddavids> Oer, thanks
[20:15] <xangua> zus: enter your username and your pasword, if you don't have a facebook username get one
[20:15] <zus> xangua,  nope, user name, login name, nothing is working
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> ThatGuyOverThere: I believe omgubuntu has a guide
[20:15] <yannf> hello
[20:15] <yannf> I have Gnome on the latest Ubuntu, and the top bar with minimize, maximize and closing buttons is not there (except on Chromium Web Browser)
[20:15] <ThatGuyOverThere> ActionParsnip: I know, but I'm having trouble understanding the first step.
[20:16] <zohar> hi, i have a display problem - square mouse, can someone help ?
[20:16] <yannf> any idea how to make it appears?
[20:16] <zus> xangua,  keeps saying disconnected - network error ( but EVERYTHING else is fine
[20:16] <yannf> I have looked in all the System->Preferences options, but I couldn't find anything
[20:16] <mpok> Hello !
[20:16] <ThatGuyOverThere> It says "install BURG to your MBR using the command below. Substitute 'hd0 with an alternative drive if necessary."
[20:17] <oren> i can't get an IP assigned to my laptop from the router (with no encription). i tried dhclient eth1 but got: No DHCPOFFERS. - http://paste.ubuntu.com/459199/
[20:17] <ThatGuyOverThere> The command being "sudo burg-install "(hd0)"
[20:17] <xangua> zus: it works for me do you have a facebook username¿¿
[20:17] <elhoir> hello, i have a weird problem... im now in a laptop, and i have jujst found that my headphones dont work here... the do in Windows, so its not a laptop problem, its ubnuntu's...... can anyone help me ?
[20:17] <ThatGuyOverThere> How do I know which drive to put in there?
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> ThatGuyOverThere: ok, how many drives do you have?
[20:17] <nia> hello, i have a weird problem...
[20:17] <guntbert> ThatGuyOverThere: what is BURG?
[20:18] <zus> yeah joey majere .
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> guntbert: its a more graphical grub
[20:18] <ThatGuyOverThere> Four, I think. One Windows 7 partition, one Windows recovery, one Ubuntu, and one extra partition.
[20:18] <ddavids> pls does anybody have any idea what other options to try and get my network icon, i have reset the panel to no avail
[20:18] <ThatGuyOverThere> Five, I guess, if SWAP counts.
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> guntbert: notice how burg is grub backwards
[20:18] <zus> um not a facebook invite...
[20:18] <muni> chanserv: how to use free cad
[20:18] <greezmunkey> oren: what dose iwlist eth1 give you back?
[20:18] <ThatGuyOverThere> BURG is a customization tool for GRUB.
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> ThatGuyOverThere: you are confusing partitions with drives
[20:18] <ThatGuyOverThere> Okay.
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> ThatGuyOverThere: how many physiclal drives do you have?
[20:19] <greezmunkey> s/dose/does heh
[20:19] <ThatGuyOverThere> One hard drive.
[20:19] <oren> greezmunkey: iwlist: unknown command `eth1' (check 'iwlist --help').
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> ThatGuyOverThere: then its hd0 as there is only one option
[20:19] <muni> zus: do u know how to use cad
[20:19] <ThatGuyOverThere> Are you sure? How can I check to make sure it's not labeled as something else?
[20:19] <greezmunkey> oren: try: iwlist eth1 scanning (sorry)
[20:20] <zus> muni,  no i don't  sorry.
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> ThatGuyOverThere: burg as far as I've read is a replacement for grub
[20:20] <ThatGuyOverThere> Oh. Well, I was close.
[20:20] <ThatGuyOverThere> Maybe I'm just not understanding it correctly.
[20:20] <muni> zus: can i change my ubuntu 32 bit to 64 bit
[20:20] <xris_> hello i have eye problem and try to change screen and text color my best choice 'i've tried it in win 98 is blue azur scren and green apple text can somebody help me
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> ThatGuyOverThere: if you had a 2nd drive it could possibly be hd1, but you only have one drive so the option you need is hd0
[20:20] <ThatGuyOverThere> Alright.
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> Muni: no, you must reinstall
[20:21] <zus> muni,  you would have to download the 64-bit iso from the website
[20:21] <oren> greezmunkey: i see all the networks. including my (unencrypted) one. (btw, i see the same with wicd-client UI)
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> muni: if you restore your home contents then the settings can be used between the 2 (if you used a seperate home partition its even easier)
[20:21] <muni> zus: i know that but my pc is not reading that cd
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> Muni: did you md5 test the iso you downloaded?
[20:22] <oren> greezmunkey: when i try to connect with wicd, it tried for about 2 minutes and give up.
[20:22] <zus> muni,  check the md5...
[20:22] <muni> actionparnship: md5
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> Muni: yes to make sure the iso is complete and consistant
[20:22] <muni> zus: md5 ???????///
[20:22] <greezmunkey> oren: that's good. I uesd to use wicd, there were pleanty of times where I would have to disable the wireless interface and then re-enable it before it would connect properly. Have you tried that?
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | muni
[20:23] <muni> zus : its an 13 mb file
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> Muni: you downloaded the iso but it may have errors
[20:23] <oren> greezmunkey: how?
[20:23] <ThatGuyOverThere> I'm having trouble adding the repository.
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> Muni: the desktop isos come in at about 700mb. The minimal is about 20mb
[20:23] <zus> muni,  try downloading it again, perhaps a different mirrior?
[20:23] <cannonfodder> hey u guys.,..i need lil help...my laptop touch pad is going crazy...is there anyway to reset it without restarting the laptop
[20:24] <ThatGuyOverThere> gpg: keyserver receive failed: keyserver error
[20:24] <ThatGuyOverThere> Should I be worried?
[20:24] <muni> zus : thanks
[20:24] <xangua> ThatGuyOverThere: no, you can add the key later
[20:24] <IdleOne> ThatGuyOverThere: nope
[20:24] <ThatGuyOverThere> Okay.
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> ThatGuyOverThere: change the keyserver to gpg.mit.edu
[20:24] <IdleOne> keyserver may just be down for a while
[20:24] <cannonfodder> u guys...how do i restart the mouse
[20:24] <zus> your welcome
[20:24] <ThatGuyOverThere> Do I even need the key?
[20:24] <zus> ActionParsnip,  thanks as well )
[20:25] <lee_> unplug / plug-in
[20:25] <muni> zus: which is better in ur point of view linux or pc or mac
[20:25] <cannonfodder> touch pad
[20:25] <cannonfodder> not mouse
[20:25] <cannonfodder> and thru the terminal
[20:25] <greezmunkey> oren: If I remember correctly, I would: sudo ifdown {interface}, then ifup {intrface} - then: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart. I wouldn't have to do that all the time, but when it did "lock up" that process usually would break it loose.
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> ThatGuyOverThere: it authenticates the packages. Also upgrading to the next distro will not be allowed
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> Zus: pleasure
[20:25] <ThatGuyOverThere> ActionParsnip: How do I add the key later?
[20:26] <muni> zus: i used them all and i like linux the most
[20:26] <zus> muni,  my personal point, i prefer GNU/linux  (k)ubuntu but you should try what you can and see what works for you
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> ThatGuyOverThere: same command on the guide. I don't have what guide you are using so can't verify
[20:26] <oren> greezmunkey: let me try (i might loose connection, so i'll be back from my desktop)
[20:26] <ThatGuyOverThere> I just try to add the repository again and it'll get the key?
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> ThatGuyOverThere: i'd just keep hammering it, keyserver.ubuntu.com get a lot of hammer
[20:27] <ThatGuyOverThere> Okay.
[20:27] <oren> greezmunkey: ifdown: interface eth1 not configured
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> ThatGuyOverThere: if it uses the add-apt-repository command then it will add the key but it needs to complete to get the repo added
[20:27] <greezmunkey> oren: isn't that you wireless int?
[20:28] <greezmunkey> oren: duh, it's probably already down, try ifup instead.
[20:28] <oren> greezmunkey: correct
[20:28] <ThatGuyOverThere> The terminal is doing something weird. It says "The following Linux command line was extracted from /etc/default/grub or the 'kopt' parameter in Grub Legacy's menu.lst. Please verify that it is correct, and modify it if necessary."
[20:28] <oren> greezmunkey: ok
[20:28] <ThatGuyOverThere> Then it's got a box that says "Linux command line:"
[20:28] <ThatGuyOverThere> Should I just leave it empty and hit okay?
[20:28] <oren> greezmunkey: when i run the up command i get: Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1.
[20:28] <nia> hello, I am new to this chat and want to meet people to communicate in English ... I could help
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> ThatGuyOverThere: I've not installed it. I don't even dual boot. Read the guide dude
[20:29] <airgrace> quick question, how do i see the login screen preferences? for some reason my version of ubuntu (10.04) doesnt display it. I wish to change the login screen.
[20:29] <ThatGuyOverThere> It doesn't say in the guide.
[20:29] <ThatGuyOverThere> :/
[20:29] <greezmunkey> oren: go for the networking restart then, sounds similar to the same issues I had with wireless and wicd...
[20:29] <squircle> !enter | ThatGuyOverThere
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> airgrace: hold shift at boot
[20:29] <oren> greezmunkey: ok
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> ThatGuyOverThere: then find a different guide, see what it says
[20:29] <nia> thank you
[20:29] <airgrace> ActionParsnip: ah great, cheers mate :)
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> ThatGuyOverThere: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-change-your-grub-loader-view-using-burg.html
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> ThatGuyOverThere: looks comprehensive, even has the key lines :)
[20:31] <xangua>  
[20:31] <jacob_> Hey guys, I'm using Ubuntu 10.4, and I can't resume after sleep (suspend), do you ave any suggestions , thx in advance
[20:31] <javinia> looks comprehensive even has the key lines
[20:31] <greezmunkey> oren: yikes, I have to go - I have an appointment, good luck with your network!
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> jacob_: what happens when you wake up?
[20:32] <elhoir> headphones dont work in my ubuntu 10.04 ... can anyone help?
[20:32] <oren> guntbert: "connection faild..unable to get IP address"
[20:32] <elhoir> i use a laptop, and they work correctly under Windows
[20:32] <oren> guntbert: sorry. it was for greezmunkey
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> Oren: if you use ip instead of name is it better?
[20:32] <ThatGuyOverThere> Hmm... Doesn't say about that. Oh well. I'm just going to hope it's right.
[20:32] <muni> elhoir: headphone
[20:32] <oren> but he left...)-:
[20:32] <airgrace> elhoir: do you hear sound without the headphones?
[20:33] <jacob_> ActionParsnip: just a black screen
[20:33] <oren> ActionParsnip: not sure what u mean? i try to connect from wicd's UI.
[20:33] <elhoir> airgrace: yes i do
[20:33] <airgrace> elhoir: perhaps a buggy issue of a driver in ubuntu.
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> Oren: oic
[20:33] <muni> elhoir: how many ports do u have
[20:34] <elhoir> airgrace: should i report a bug? where ?
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> Jacob_: on an nvidia chip?
[20:34] <elhoir> muni: ports ?
[20:34] <jacob_> ActionParsnip: exactly
[20:34] <airgrace> elhoir: not to sure, i am only trying to help you diagnose the issue :).
[20:34] <sllide> how do i get engish output in my console?
[20:34] <oren> ActionParsnip: i see the wireless networks around me, including mine(unencypted) but can't conncet.
[20:34] <mek8630> hey has anyone in here used gOS before?
[20:35] <slidinghorn> !anyone | mek8630
[20:35] <elhoir> airgrace: "lspci" shows -->  00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> Oren: if you set a static ip and static dns does it work?
[20:35] <mneptok> mek8630: gOS discussions are offtopic for this channel
[20:35] <mek8630> mneptok: its not going to be off topic once I know if someone has used it I am getting to it
[20:36] <mek8630> slidinghorn: there is no other way to ask the question so mind your own business
[20:36] <elhoir> airgrace muni -- any idea ?
[20:36] <oren> ActionParsnip: i havent' tried that. how do i do that? in /etc/network/interfaces?
[20:36] <slidinghorn> !attitude | mek8630
[20:36] <mneptok> mek8630: please be polite
[20:36] <TiK> are the keyservers down I cant add a key
[20:36] <airgrace> elhoir: hmm...it's bizzare, unfortunately i am not sure :\.
[20:36] <guntbert> !keyserver | TiK
[20:36] <mek8630> mneptok: he isn't being polite by bothering me when he has no clue what I am trying to do
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> Oren: no, in wicd. If you use interfaces then wicd won't be able to manipulate the device
[20:36] <mek8630> mneptok: kinda like you telling me its off topic when you don't even know why I am asking about gOS
[20:36] <slidinghorn> mek8630, no one has a clue what you're trying to do because you haven't asked a valid question yet
[20:37] <mneptok> mek8630: the !anyone factoid exists for a reason
[20:37] <elhoir> airgrace: what is bizzare ? :P
[20:37] <guntbert> oren: please !pastebin the output of ifconfig
[20:37] <prince_jammys> mek8630: he's pointing out the right way of asking irc questions. we have no clue of what you're trying to do precisely because of what the bot said.
[20:37] <TiK> gpg: requesting key 0C5A2783 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
[20:37] <oren> guntbert: http://paste.ubuntu.com/459199/
[20:37] <TiK> no responce
[20:37] <mek8630> the reason I ask if ANYONE has used it is because once I find someone that has THEN I can ask my question
[20:37] <prince_jammys> mek8630: we know that. don't do that.
[20:37] <mneptok> mek8630: and your continued combative attitude is not going to get you any result you want.
[20:37] <airgrace> elhoir: why it works in windows, u get sound from the speaker in ubuntu...but the headphones fail to pickup sound.
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> Jacob_: http://www.google.com/m?hl=en&gl=gb&client=ms-android-tmobile&source=android-browser-key&q=ubuntu+nvidia+black+screen+on+wake+up
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> Jacob_: oops sorry
[20:37] <elhoir> ahh :)
[20:37] <TiK> oh thanks ubottu
[20:38] <guntbert> TiK: use the other one from ubottu
[20:38] <mek8630> ok so here is a better question
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> Jacob_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/567971
[20:38] <mek8630> have any of you that are talking to me used gOS?
[20:38] <TiK> i didnt notice sorry
[20:38] <prince_jammys> mek8630: meh. seriously.
[20:38] <chrisseq> siema
[20:38] <mek8630> well my point is
[20:38] <mek8630> if you havent then why are you saying anything
[20:38] <prince_jammys> mek8630: I am using _____, trying to do _____.
[20:38] <prince_jammys> failing with error _____
[20:39] <prince_jammys> then if we don't know, we don't answer.
[20:39] <guntbert> oren: I see you've been though this before :)  -- reading
[20:39] <carl-m> Is there a way to configure rhythmbox so that if I buy music from the ubuntu store it does not put it into ubuntu one but just downlaods it to a regular directory?
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> mek8630: this is ubuntu support only. Gos will be discussed in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:39] <oren> ActionParsnip: gunbert is trying to help me as well. one sec.
[20:39] <mneptok> !anyone | mek8630 once again
[20:40] <muni> ubottu: can we play cs on ubuntu
[20:40] <mek8630> alright well my question DOES concern ubuntu and the fact that I am asking if someone has used gOS relates to the question BUT I have to find someone that has used it so that they will know what I am talking about
[20:40] <mek8630> there for
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> mek8630: if you have an ubuntu issue then you are in the right place, otherwise #ubuntu-offtopic is for you
[20:40] <mek8630> I DO
[20:40] <mek8630> now
[20:40] <mek8630> please
[20:40] <slidinghorn> then ASK
[20:40] <mneptok> mek8630: so ask it.
[20:40] <ecuderpam> Is there a standard wiki page or something I'm missing for configuring wireless in Ubuntu?
[20:40] <mek8630> seriously this is ridiculous
[20:40] <muni> ubottu: counter strike
[20:40] <squircle> mek8630: with all this time you've wasted debating, you may have already had an answer to your question
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> mek8630: someone using gos is not an ubuntu related question
[20:40] <ecuderpam> I'm using a Dell Inspiron 1525, if that helps.
[20:40] <mek8630> you guys think you are on some kind of power trip or something
[20:41] <Stupendoussteve> mek8630: Just ask your question, if nobody has an answer they will say so
[20:41] <squircle> mek8630: we just think you should've asked your question 10 minutes ago
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> mek8630: no just keeping the channel rules
[20:41] <slidinghorn> ecuderpam, this is a good troubleshooting guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=885847
[20:41] <muni> ubottu: ????
[20:41] <ecuderpam> Thanks.
[20:41] <mek8630> just forget it man screw you people and screw this chat honestly I had a simple question but since you type of people have to be in here then whatever
[20:42] <mneptok> mek8630: this is your very last warning to lose the combative attitude. ask the question, or /part. the "does anyone ..." routine is old, and it will stop.
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> mek8630: some people just don't understand simple english
[20:42] <prince_jammys> mek8630: i guess being corrected hurts you too much. shame. all you had to is ask your full original question.
[20:42] <Oer> thank you for visit #ubuntu mek8630
[20:43] <Mimo> ping
[20:43] <atmos4> hmm this is so strange
[20:43] <prince_jammys> pong
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> mek8630: once again. If you question is you having issues with firefox in lucid, or an app won't install in karmic we are here to help. Uestions regarding non canonical releases of ubuntu are offtopic here and that's why #ubuntu-offtopic exists
[20:44] <guntbert> oren: I never used wicd, but maybe dhclient is not needed (with network manager it isn't) - could you please look into /var/log/syslog and pastebin that (or relevant parts)
[20:44] <atmos4> for some reason rc.conf isn't run by upstart on my lucid system
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> mek8630: its not a powertrip at all
[20:44] <oren> guntbert: sure
[20:44] <atmos4> and some point it worked shortly but not it doesn't get executed again#
[20:44] <mneptok> ActionParsnip: please let it drop.
[20:44] <mek8630> alright my question is the icon dock that is on GOS I want to find out how to get it in ubuntu and xubuntu, I THINK I have downloaded the right program but I can't find it
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> mneptok: I'm done :)
[20:44] <atmos4> any ideas what could be wrong?
[20:44] <mek8630> BUT the reason I was wanting to know if anyone had used gOS because maybe they would know how to do it then
[20:44] <mneptok> mek8630: i believe gOS uses AWN
[20:45] <prince_jammys> !awn
[20:45] <erkan^> I have some problem with windows ubuntu netbook -> Some windows do not scroll down that I want to scroll. What should I do?
[20:45] <lee_> MAKE SURE TO GET ALL THE LIBS FOR AWN,, and other applets ..
[20:45] <prince_jammys> mek8630: see if there are screenshots above, and whether awn is what you want.
[20:45] <Jordan_U> !caps | lee_
[20:45] <marcules> Erm… what does "Mrs." stand for? "Misses" or "Mistress"?
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> mek8630: see what happens when you just ask the question ;)
[20:45] <Oer> awn uses Compiz
[20:46] <lee_> didnt mean too ,,
[20:46] <erkan^> hello?
[20:46] <mneptok> marcules: English for a married woman
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> marcules: missus and implys marriage
[20:46] <slidinghorn> !details > erkan^
[20:46] <oren> guntbert: http://paste.ubuntu.com/459210/
[20:47] <marcules> Yeah I know what it means but… well I wasn't sure how one would write it ^^
[20:47] <mek8630> yeah but there is no reason for all the hostility and ganging up on me when really there was a reason I was asking that way. I DO ask the way you are saying to on normal occasions but I didn't know how to ask it
[20:47] <erkan^> I will try. a wait
[20:48] <aguitel> what is the right command: apt-get install -f or aptitude install -f ?
[20:48] <feedmecereal> I can't get sound in to work with Skype or any other app. Please help me! I'm having a seriously stressful time right now and I want to enjoy the 4th of July.
[20:49] <guntbert> oren: one idea (from my system) stop dhclient (I see wpasupplicant is running, maybe you have to tell it that it should use eth1)
[20:49] <feedmecereal> I'm in alsamixer
[20:49] <slidinghorn> aguitel, either will work...see this link for more details on apt-get vs aptitude: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/aptitude
[20:51] <oren> guntbert: is it a service? so i do it with /etc/init.d/dhclient stop ?
[20:51] <muni> feedmecereal: try system testing
[20:51] <feedmecereal> Does anyone know why why sound in would stop working all the time? It works for a while for Skype then it just quits.
[20:51] <feedmecereal> muni: ?
[20:51] <lee_> there must be another app u start that triggers the sound to go off..
[20:52] <radi> hello, can anyone help ? im trying to run need for speed underground via wine
[20:52] <muni> feedmecereal: system>administration>system testing
[20:52] <clrg> radi: Does winehq.org list your game as a supported application?
[20:52] <radi> donno, im gonna check
[20:52] <slidinghorn> radi, you might have better luck asking in #winehq -- that channel is more specifically geared to using wine to run windows apps :)
[20:52] <lee_> radi ::  download 'play on linux'.. it has a patch for that game..
[20:53] <radi> lee_ whats that play on linux ?
[20:53] <guntbert> oren: I'll have to look
[20:53] <muni> wine is a piece of shit
[20:53] <lee_> its something to make ur life easier  ;) ..
[20:53] <IdleOne> !language | muni
[20:53] <lwells> Any RSS readers that sync with Google Reader?
[20:54] <muni> sorry
[20:54] <muni> sorry
[20:54] <muni> will someone plz tell me how to play cs on linux
[20:55] <slidinghorn> lwells, evolution has a plugin that syncs with google reader...more info here: http://www.itcamefromtheinternet.com/tech/archives/173-Syncing-Evolution-and-Google-Calendar,-Contacts-and-Reader.html
[20:55] <muni> wine
[20:55] <radi> lee_ do i need to download special version of wine now or ?
[20:55] <lwells> thanks
[20:56] <lee_> 1 sec radi
[20:56] <lwells> slidinghorn: thanks
[20:56] <radi> i have the one from the official site
[20:56] <radi> it works ok with some games
[20:56] <Megaviv> Hello
[20:56] <slidinghorn> muni, this is all I could find regarding counterstrike on ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CounterStrike
[20:56] <Megaviv> Is there anybody home?
[20:56] <clrg> Megaviv: There's lots of people here.
[20:56] <slidinghorn> ...or not, lol
[20:56] <guntbert> oren: try with dhclient -x (may need sudo)
[20:56] <lee_> RADI :: this is what u use : http://www.playonlinux.com/script_files/PlayOnLinux/3.7.6/PlayOnLinux_3.7.6.deb  << good gaming  ;)
[20:57] <muni> slidinghorn: u r the best
[20:57] <slidinghorn> muni: the documentation isn't complete there, but there are some helpful links @ the bottom too
[20:57] <radi> lee_ I already installed that from lucid repos, but do i need to download another version of wine
[20:57] <radi> or it doesnt matter :)
[20:57] <lee_> it does everything..
[20:58] <radi> cool :P
[20:58] <radi> ill test it
[20:58] <radi> thank you
[20:58] <lee_> :)  youll be happy with the result
[20:58] <BKTech86> hi, I'm trying to run virtualbox but its giving me an error (never did that before): says to run modprobe vboxdrv as root, which i did but it doesnt work, can anyone help please?
[20:59] <oren> guntbert: ok. and after that, just try with wicd?
[20:59] <radi> lee_ better than just wine ? :)
[20:59] <aguitel> slidinghorn, see that:http://pastebin.com/hxQRZEXW
[20:59] <Megaviv> Hello
[21:00] <lee_> it gets the best wine for the software u wana run on it.. it is wine , but alot of work from the developers went into it
[21:00]  * Megaviv slaps dennis__ around a bit with a large trout
[21:00]  * Megaviv slaps denny around a bit with a large trout
[21:00]  * Megaviv slaps DHR around a bit with a large trout
[21:00] <lee_> to make it better
[21:00]  * Megaviv slaps dibber around a bit with a large trout
[21:00]  * Megaviv slaps Kirk around a bit with a large trout
[21:00] <soadkombucha> So why do I have to occasionally recompile my sound drivers?
[21:00] <Megaviv> You all - don't take it personally...
[21:00] <Megaviv> Well, Bye bye
[21:01] <guntbert> oren: yes, and in another terminal watch the output of tail -f /var/log/syslog to see what is happening
[21:01] <erkan^> slidinghorn, : http://lh6.ggpht.com/_-g7SHML2oAI/TDDocQYwFCI/AAAAAAAAAfI/8fq0EVRU23c/Schermafdruk-1.png
[21:01] <atmos4> argh, I'm going crazy, upstart randomly starts sysv init scripts (rc.conf) or doesn't
[21:02] <atmos4> some boots it works, some it doesn't
[21:02] <slidinghorn> aguitel, what are you trying to install?  you should use the -f option before an actual package, not by itself
[21:02] <radi> lee_, playonlinux says drag races wont work :/
[21:02] <muni> bye
[21:02] <slidinghorn> erkan^, what happens when you click the arrow?
[21:02] <atmos4> maybe missing dependency on fileystem for rc.conf script?
[21:02] <carl-m> wow, the whole rhythmbox / ubuntuone thing is flaky
[21:02] <lee_> it gives a list of all supported games..
[21:02] <radi> yes, it does
[21:03] <radi> but if drag races dont work
[21:03] <radi> whats the point ? :)
[21:03] <oren> guntbert: can't connect. i'll paste the syslog in a minute.
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> Oren: does you wifi need firmware at all?
[21:04] <aguitel> slidinghorn, i am scanning for errors in my system
[21:04] <oren> ActionParsnip: i don't know what u mean. i can connect from other laptops/desktops and i was able to connect with the current laptop with karmic.
[21:04] <oren> ActionParsnip: 1 sec. looking at the log
[21:04] <sad> Ok, Im havng trouble getting embedded video to play.
[21:04] <erkan^> This arrow I mean --> I can not scroll to down, because my netbook is 10 inch, slidinghorn
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> Oren: reboot and read: dmesg | less ,see if it mentions firmware or if any warning or errors are present regarding wifi
[21:05] <usacomputertec> anyone know about a video game called smokin guns?
[21:05] <erkan^> do you understand my question, slidinghorn ?
[21:05] <paipimenta> I've got a ?... I have part1.html file, I want to start a new file, part2.html, with the first 3 lines of part1.html (same directory).  How do I do that with ed?
[21:05] <slidinghorn> erkan^, I think so...the drop down menu is too long for you to view?
[21:05] <paipimenta> ed, the unix line editor
[21:05] <usacomputertec> I installed it before threw getdeb but now I can't install it because a .deb package is not available. I tried downloading the code from their site but I can't run it
[21:06] <erkan^> yes i mean
[21:06] <oren> ActionParsnip: i'll do that. meanwhile here is the tail of the syslog
[21:06] <oren> ActionParsnip: < usacomputertec> I installed it before threw getdeb but now I can't install it because a .deb package is not available. I tried downloading the code from
[21:06] <slidinghorn> erkan^, let me try to find something to help...give me a few minutes :)
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> paipimenta: cat part1.html | head -n 3 >> part2.html
[21:06] <oren> ActionParsnip: oops. sorry
[21:06] <erkan^> ok i wait
[21:06] <oren> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/459219/
[21:07] <usacomputertec> oren I tried downloading the code from the smokin guns website
[21:07] <carl-m> what's the "right" way to get music that I purchased out of my ubuntu one space and somewhere else on my local hard disk?  preferably so that it ends up still registered in rhythmbox
[21:07] <usacomputertec> oren it's incomplete at this time its only the engine
[21:07] <usacomputertec> oren I downloaded the FULL GAME download
[21:07] <usacomputertec> oren but the executables won't start
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> usacomputertec: is there an md5 for the file?
[21:08] <usacomputertec> oren no
[21:08] <usacomputertec> oren but I did find that the permissions for the executibles were not on so I enabled them
[21:08] <usacomputertec> oren there is no readme
[21:08] <paipimenta> ActionParsnip: thanks
[21:08] <usacomputertec> oren I have it on two computers here running fine but I installed them from playdeb a long time ago
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> Carl-m: download it from ubuntuone and put it in $HOME/Music (assuming that is the folder being watched by the app)
[21:09] <mek8630> I can't remember who told me about the avant dock but that isn't the one I am looking for, is there any other suggestions on docks?
[21:10] <tomasz> elooo
[21:10] <carl-m> ActionParsnip: the problem I ran into is that it was already downloaded into ~/.ubuntuone/foo . I copied everything to /home/Music, told rhythmbox to delete the ones in ~/.ubuntuone, and rhythmbox deleted both the old version and my copies!
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> usacomputertec: chmod +x ./filename; ./filename ,run that from within the same folder as the installer and change filename in the command to the right name (case sensitive)
[21:10] <carl-m> there must be a better way, I think
[21:10] <usacomputertec> ActionParsnip I'll try
[21:10] <tomasz> ubuntu is great !
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> Carl-m: that's all I got dude. I don't use either tbh
[21:11] <slidinghorn> erkan^, couldn't find anything on google, but I did start a thread on the forum for your problem...subscribe to it to keep an eye out for responses: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1524037
[21:11] <tomasz> somebody use amarok ?
[21:11] <usacomputertec> ActionPartsnip ./smokinguns.x86: error while loading shared libraries: libopenal.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> tomasz: as a starter distro, i'd have to agree
[21:11] <aeiou> i'd like to be able to copy paste from the terminal without having to right click, is this possible?
[21:11] <erkan^> ok slidinghorn
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> usacomputertec: ok is your ubuntu 64bit?
[21:12] <usacomputertec> no it's 32 bit
[21:12] <carl-m> ActionParsnip: I thought I would try out the ubuntuone store - maybe it supports ubuntu, and the prices seem cheap. but the "cloud" implementation is not how I want to organize my files
[21:12] <hlouis> I think there's a shortcut for it
[21:12] <hlouis> did you read the doc?
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> aeiou: use ctrl+c
[21:12] <usacomputertec> @ActionParsnip
[21:12] <aeiou> ActionParsnip, ctrl+c cancels current operation, it doesnt copy
[21:12] <tomasz> i have problem with amarok. when is mp3 file this jump to next song
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> usacomputertec: ok then you have an easier job. You need to find the deb which gives that file
[21:12] <erkan^> thank you for help. i wait on a messege for someone when someone know how must that... slidinghorn :)
[21:12] <Stupendoussteve> !mp3 | tomasz
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> Aeiou: sorry shift+ctrl+c
[21:13] <usacomputertec> the deb that gives what file? ActionParsnip
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> usacomputertec: the one in the error output
[21:13] <hlouis> yeah shift-ctrl-c makes more sense, just tried it and it works.
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> !find libopenal
[21:13] <br4inp4in> how is the name of the channel for the german ubuntu support?
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> usacomputertec: try libopenal1
[21:14] <tomasz> how amarok can see mp3 files and play this i have ubuntu 10.04
[21:14] <aeiou> ActionParsnip, thanks!
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> !de | br4inp4in
[21:14] <slidinghorn> br4inp4in, #ubuntu-de
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> Aeiou: np bro
[21:14] <br4inp4in> thanks folks
[21:14] <Norcimo5> does anyone with an nvidia card have any flickering problems with ubuntu?
[21:14] <usacomputertec> ActionParsnip that one is already installed but there were some -devs and other files so I'm installing htem
[21:14] <usacomputertec> them
[21:14] <hlouis> Yeah, sometime the diaplay isn't stable
[21:15] <aeiou> ActionParsnip, you dont happen to know how to clear the terminal (i.e not typing clear, but actually clear the console with keyboard  shortcut)
[21:15] <ikonia> Norcimo5: why dont you just ask if someone can help you with YOUR problem rather than worrying about other people
[21:15] <struhevol> No candidate version found for nessus
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> usacomputertec: as the game isn't a package it cannot automagically install the deps for you, so you have to satisfy what the game needs manually
[21:15] <struhevol> how do i update my apt-get
[21:15] <guntbert> aeiou: ctrl+L
[21:15] <aeiou> guntbert, aha, great thanks
[21:15] <struhevol> maby thats my problem
[21:15] <usacomputertec> ActionParsnip ya I'm trying to do that
[21:15] <usacomputertec> ActionParsnip that didn't work
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> Aeiou: not sure dude, sorry. You could alias clear to cl if its not already a command
[21:16] <guntbert> struhevol: sudo apt-get update
[21:16] <struhevol> thanks
[21:16] <usacomputertec> ActionParsnip still get the same error
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> usacomputertec: then websearching for you. dpkg -S libwhatever ,may tell you
[21:16] <struhevol> would that fix this message i get No candidate version found for nessus
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> usacomputertec: you need to find out the package. Ask jeeves
[21:17] <guntbert> ActionParsnip: don't tell me you've never used ctrl+L :-)
[21:17] <usacomputertec> ActionParsnip so I need to look up libopenal.so.0 and see what package has it
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> guntbert: nar. Never had to. Don't use clear much really
[21:17] <miststlkr> allo all.   Looking for a .pdf to .prc ebook converter for linux.  I know Mobi puts out a free [as in beer] converter for windows which I have used before, but anyone know of a linux utility to do it?
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> usacomputertec: exactly, then rerun the installer to see what it wants next (if at all)
[21:18] <struhevol> guntbert would that fix this No candidate version found for nessus
[21:18] <usacomputertec> E: g15daemon: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[21:18] <usacomputertec> E: g15macro: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[21:18] <struhevol> nvm  i updated my apt-get and still same error
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> miststlkr: there's pdf to html you may be able to convert from html. I've not heard of pdc
[21:18] <guntbert> struhevol: I don't know, try it :-)
[21:19] <ahmad> hi all, at starting ubuntu 10, I found the following error message "An error occurred while mounting /home Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery", I do not understand why my system can not mount /home, could any one help me to solve these problem? Thanks
[21:19] <struhevol> guntbert i tried it same error no canadate found
[21:19] <slidinghorn> miststlkr, not sure...but mobi does work in wine: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=961291
[21:19] <guntbert> struhevol: what are you trying to do?
[21:19] <muni> guntbert :
[21:19] <struhevol> just install nessus
[21:19] <struhevol> thats all
[21:19] <struhevol> it works find on my windows machine
[21:19] <struhevol> some how i cant install it on ubuntu
[21:20] <carl-m> any idea how I can browse my ubuntu one "purchased music" folder in the gnome file manager?
[21:20] <miststlkr> slidinghorn:  may have to try that if i don't find anything else.  Thanks.  prc and .mobi are MobiPocket's format
[21:20] <struhevol> how do i get snyaptic for ubuntu 8
[21:21] <miststlkr> slidinghorn:  On a 4GB pendrive install, not sure wine is such a good idea
[21:21] <guntbert> struhevol: nessus isn't in the repositories - ahh a windows app - what should it do?
[21:21] <zors> hi ppl.  new here.  been on 10.04 now for a month.  but i've been having completely random x freezes with the keyboard and mouse becoming unresponsive.  any ideas?
[21:21] <feedmecereal> I'm trying to reset my alsa settings to default. I tried "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset 0" and I got "command not found." What now?
[21:22] <paipimenta> ActionParsnip: hmm... ed foo.bar    4,$d   then w foo2.bar  worked
[21:22] <Spaztic_One> Hey, I have a question about Wine. It says that it is version 1.1.42, yet wineHQ doesn't list anything between 1.0.1 and 1.2-rc1 for creating an account. Could someone help me understand why this is?
[21:24] <oren> guntbert: i reboot and looking at dmesg. I see at least 2 lines there that related to my wireless card :" input: bcm5974 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:04.0/usb3/3-6/3-6:1.2/input/input5" and "usbcore: registered new interface driver bcm5974". here is the log:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/459222/
[21:24] <soadkombucha> I'[m trying to add a ppa to my linux but it's hanging on pulling the GPA key
[21:24] <rabbit1> Spaztic_One: why don't u try Oracle Virtual Box, its easy and good
[21:24] <soadkombucha> Spaztic_One: And if you're doing windows and install guest additions you can have just the taskbar
[21:25] <alteregoa> darmok and jalad at tanagra!
[21:25] <Spaztic_One> rabbit1: I assume that is essentially the same thing as wine? soadkombucha: What do you mean?
[21:26] <alteregoa> darmok and jalad at tanagra!
[21:26] <IdleOne> !ot | alteregoa
[21:26] <dextorion> hi. Just did an upgrade. Now firefox wont start. Anything known?
[21:26] <rabbit1> Spaztic_One: yeap, but i had experience on both, my suggestion is OVB
[21:27] <slidinghorn> !estonian > alteregoa
[21:27] <soadkombucha> slidinghorn: I can connect to the internet but it's failing to pull a GPG key
[21:28] <slidinghorn> soadkombucha, there have been a few people having key issues today...I think the keyserver may be having problems
[21:28] <soadkombucha> slidinghorn: Yeah it just went through on the third try
[21:28] <MaMoUs> CUPS server error
[21:28] <slidinghorn> !details | MaMoUs
[21:28] <Spaztic_One> rabbit1: Does it support more windows programs and such than wine? What is your reasoning for that? Perhaps list the pros and cons of each one?
[21:28] <soadkombucha> slidinghorn: But the packages from PPA can't be found so that must be it
[21:29] <Spaztic_One> soadkombucha: "And if you're doing windows and install guest additions you can have just the taskbar" What do you mean?
[21:30] <MaMoUs> i have a problem with my printing, i'm running Ubuntu 10.04, when i try to connect to a printer , i et the following output CUPS server error
[21:30] <guntbert> oren: the relevant line is [   18.222008] eth1: Broadcom BCM432b 802.11 Hybrid Wireless Controller 5.60.48.36 - I have to say that I know nothing about broadcom devices, but have you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx ?
[21:31] <slidinghorn> MaMoUs, there should be more to that error...
[21:31] <MaMoUs> slidinghorn: There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'failed to connect to server'.
[21:32] <rabbit1> MaMoUs: is your OS Server Edition or Desktop ?
[21:32] <MaMoUs> Desktop
[21:32] <oren> guntbert: i'll take a look. thanks
[21:32] <Lazyvee> hello, i have installed Ubuntu 10.04, entered my SSID and WEP key, Ubuntu found and connected to my modem router, but once I started Firefox nothing happened. It seems I can't get online for some reason. Any idea?
[21:33] <guntbert> oren: Good luck :-)
[21:33] <Lazyvee> by the way it's the Desktop Edition
[21:34] <soadkombucha> slidinghorn: Hopefully they fix it
[21:35] <Zwei> Hi, is there a way to bring up a gui file browser for the current directory I'm in, in the terminal?
[21:35] <Zwei> Sorry if it's badly phrased...
[21:35] <guntbert> Lazyvee: the machine you are using right now to talk to us?
[21:35] <soadkombucha> Zwei: root or what?
[21:35] <beefheart> can anyone explain the possible differences between having something load via an /etc/init.d/ startup script and loading it after logging in? i'm having trouble with a particular program...
[21:36] <Zwei> I mean, in windows, if I'm at C:\myfolder, and I type "explorer", it brings up a gui folder explorer thing.
[21:36] <soadkombucha> Zwei: nautilus /path/to/dir OR if you want root access, gksudo nautilus /path/to/dir
[21:36] <soadkombucha> or just nautilus
[21:36] <guntbert> Zwei: nautilus .  (the dot is important)
[21:36] <Zwei> soadkombucha: Erm, probably not root
[21:36] <miststlkr> slidinghorn:  thanks for the help.  I'm looking into Calibre now, but have to run for a bit.   On quick glance it looks like that may work for what I need.
[21:36] <rabbit1> MaMoUs: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=254576
[21:36] <slidinghorn> Zwei, use "browse ."
[21:36] <soadkombucha> Zwei: Then just nautilus .
[21:36] <Pirate_Hunter> Zwei, just type nautilus
[21:36] <alox> Lazyvee: i had a similar problem, google the addres of the nameservers of your ISP and write that address in /etc/resolv.conf
[21:36] <soadkombucha> Zwei: Or if you're going to a particular folder nautilus /path/to
[21:36] <Lazyvee> gunthert: yes, I installed Ubuntu with Wubi so my machine is dual boot
[21:37] <Zwei> guntbert, slidinghorn, soadkombucha, Pirate_Hunter: Thanks!
[21:37] <MaMoUs> rabbit1: i found the fix ^^
[21:37] <MaMoUs> rabbit1: thx any way man
[21:37] <slidinghorn> Lazyvee, wubi != dual boot
[21:37] <MaMoUs> rabbit1: the link u gave me, that fix did not work
[21:37] <rabbit1> MaMoUs: its ok, no probs
[21:37] <soadkombucha> Zwei: Not a problem
[21:37] <guntbert> Lazyvee: that makes it more difficult - can you reach the internet at all when you  are in ubuntu?
[21:38] <Lazyvee> ok, it's different from dual boot because no other partition is created
[21:38] <rabbit1> MaMoUs: paste that link here
[21:38] <Lazyvee> sorry, I'm new to this
[21:38] <soadkombucha> I hope it's not a realtek card those are annoying
[21:38] <MaMoUs> rabbit1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1475058
[21:38] <alox> lazyvee: where do you live? what's your internet service provider?
[21:38]  * Pirate_Hunter seriously needs to read on wubi and figure out what it is and how it is different from using livecd
[21:38] <beefheart> might anyone have an idea of why a program functions differently when started with an /etc/init.d/ script vs. manual startup while logged in?
[21:39] <MaMoUs> rabbit1: the first Post XD
[21:39] <osmario> hi all. how is the best to learn python?
[21:40] <guntbert> !ot | osmario
[21:40] <soadkombucha> osmario: However I will help here: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide
[21:40] <Lazyvee> guntbert: no I can't reach the internet at all in Ubuntu. but I f I create a partition for Ubuntu and do I proper install, would it solve the problem? I'm thinking of trying 9.10 with Wubi and see if it works better
[21:40] <slidinghorn> osmario, you can try asking in #python
[21:40] <soadkombucha> slidinghorn: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide works
[21:40] <Flannel> Pirate_Hunter: Wubi is an installed version within a Windows partition.  It runs like a regular install with a slight disk performance slowdown due to one more layer of indirection (virtual FS), "slight" really is slight, you likely won't notice.
[21:40] <soadkombucha> It has a list of tutorials
[21:41] <guntbert> Lazyvee: I don't think so - did you try with running a live CD?
[21:41] <soadkombucha> Pirate_Hunter: Wubi is useful when you don't wanna mess with parttables
[21:41] <Dazzled> Does anybody have any experience with Photorec?
[21:41] <Pirate_Hunter> Flannel, so does it run inside windows or something or does it create a disk image?
[21:41] <Norcimo5> Im suffering from constant flickering on my laptop. it has an old nvidia go 7900 GS card, and every time powermizer changes the performance level it flickers.
[21:41] <osmario> thanks for all.
[21:41] <Lazyvee> guntbert: not yet but I might try with a live CD
[21:41] <Pirate_Hunter> soadkombucha, so I assume grub doesn't get installed now im confused
[21:42] <Flannel> Pirate_Hunter: It doesn't run in windows, you boot to it just like a dualboot.  There is no partitioning though, the entire Ubuntu install lives within a couple of files on your windows drive
[21:42] <guntbert> Lazyvee: try it - if you have wired LAN it really *should* work "out of the box" :-)
[21:43] <Spaztic_One> Hey, I have a question about Wine. It says that it is version 1.1.42, yet wineHQ doesn't list anything between 1.0.1 and 1.2-rc1 for creating an account. Could someone help me understand why this is and/or what version I should say I have?
[21:43] <ahmad> any answer?
[21:43] <slidinghorn> Spaztic_One, ask in #winehq
[21:43] <Spaztic_One> Ah, thank you.
[21:43] <ahmad> again, at starting ubuntu 10, I found the following error message "An error occurred while mounting /home Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery", I do not understand why my system can not mount /home, could any one help me to solve these problem? Thanks
[21:44] <ThatGuyOverThere> Question: If I update my BIOS, will that screw up the bootloader?
[21:44] <Lazyvee> guntbert: I will try with wired LAN but as I like to make things more complicated I'd like to use my wifi :-)
[21:44] <erUSUL> ahmad: boot into a livecd and try to mount it from there
[21:44] <erUSUL> ThatGuyOverThere: no; it shouldn't
[21:44] <meme> hi ... can I backup data from liveCD? coz some sectors are bad
[21:44] <ThatGuyOverThere> Thanks.
[21:44] <Pirate_Hunter> Flannel, oh thats creative and still manages to dual boot, very interesting, so I assume windows sees it in a different way i.e. a disk images and how does one manage the size of the ubuntu wubi image?
[21:45] <guntbert> Lazyvee: do you know what wifi adapter you have?
[21:45] <slidinghorn> Lazyvee, try taking a gander here, it's a great troubleshooter for wireless issues/ndiswrapper: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=885847
[21:45] <MaMoUs> ahmad: well man .... lets see, when u installed Ubuntu did u make a partition for home ?
[21:45] <ahmad> MaMoUs: no
[21:45] <erUSUL> meme: if you have maedia you can backup to from the livecd
[21:45] <Lazyvee> Atheros... I don't know the model... it's athk5 in the Ubuntu console if that helps
[21:45] <MaMoUs> ahmad: ok just give me 1 min plz
[21:46] <ahmad> MaMoUs: it is just one partition for all ubuntu
[21:46] <Flannel> Pirate_Hunter: There are tools to expand it and stuff, windows sees it as a couple of files (I believe there's two)
[21:46] <ahmad> MaMoUs: ok thanks.
[21:46] <Lazyvee> slidinghorn: thanks for the link, I'm going to check it out
[21:46] <alox> Lazyvee: if it doesn't work open a command line and do "sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf" and try to add the line "nameserver 8.8.8.8" (or the ip addresses of your isp's nameservers)
[21:46] <MaMoUs> ahmad: did u install Virtualbox ?
[21:46] <erUSUL> Pirate_Hunter: from what i see here wubi instals are way to fragile. grub problems or corrupt image file are common. i do not recommend them
[21:46] <erUSUL> too*
[21:46] <ahmad> MaMoUs: yes
[21:47] <meme> erUSUL : how could u give me any link for that ... I couldn't find
[21:47] <MaMoUs> ahmad: you had modified /etc/fstab in order to mount the usb?
[21:47] <ahmad> MaMoUs: is there a problem between VirtualBox and ubuntu?
[21:47] <MaMoUs> ahmad: no
[21:47] <erUSUL> meme: a link to backup from a livecd ?
[21:47] <ahmad> MaMoUs: I think VirtualBox did this
[21:48] <Lazyvee> alox: i'll try that as well, thanks
[21:48] <meme> no no I mean web link to describe that
[21:48] <ahmad> MaMoUs: I had not done this myself
[21:48] <MaMoUs> ahmad: u did not do anything to that file ?
[21:48] <soadkombucha> Flannel: Is it a squashfs file?
[21:48] <ahmad> MaMoUs: yes
[21:49] <ahmad> MaMoUs: I did not do any thing with this file
[21:49] <MaMoUs> ahmad: oky just give me 1 more min plz
[21:50] <Pirate_Hunter> erUSUL, so wouldn't I, I prefer to spend 30-45min installing from live cd than mess with wubi, saying it installs in windows itself doesn't it mean that it also suffers from NTFS fragmentation (this are all assumption based on my knowledge) which beats the point of having linux and how does one go about using chroot... too many question I need to explore
[21:50] <MaMoUs> ahmad: can u edit this file /etc/fstab
[21:50] <ahmad> MaMoUs: ok
[21:51] <iromli> when i use aptitude to install package, where is the temp dir that holds the downloaded package? i forgot that one
[21:51] <erUSUL> iromli: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[21:52] <Flannel> soadkombucha: I'm not sure about the specifics
[21:52] <iromli> erUSUL: alright, thx
[21:52] <soadkombucha> erUSUL: Is there a way to purge that?
[21:52] <ahmad> MaMoUs: ok MaMoUs, I have opened this file in my editor. what next?
[21:52] <Lazyvee> I have an Atheros AR5005G Wireless Network Adapter
[21:52] <erUSUL> soadkombucha: sudo apt-get clean
[21:52] <MaMoUs> ahmad: can u give me the entire file plz
[21:52] <soadkombucha> erUSUL: I looked my folder was BIG
[21:52] <erUSUL> soadkombucha: then run that
[21:53] <soadkombucha> erUSUL: Just did. I had 1.3GB of packages
[21:53] <ahmad> MaMoUs:# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[21:53] <ahmad> #
[21:53] <ahmad> # Use 'vol_id --uuid' to print the universally unique identifier for a
[21:53] <ahmad> # device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices
[21:53] <ahmad> # that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
[21:53] <FloodBot1> ahmad: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:53] <ahmad> #
[21:53] <erUSUL> soadkombucha: sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb would have worked equally well
[21:54] <ziopeppe> cagliari
[21:54] <meme> Hhow can I backup files using LiveCD
[21:54] <meme> ?
[21:54] <ziopeppe> italia
[21:55] <jpds> !it | ziopeppe
[21:55] <slidinghorn> !it | ziopeppe
[21:55] <FBI> lol
[21:55] <guntbert> !lol | FBI
[21:55] <soadkombucha> erUSUL: The other one is simpler
[21:55] <FBI> no problem
[21:56] <MaMoUs> ahmad: can u run this in terminal plz
[21:56] <MaMoUs> ahmad: tell me if u have any error given
[21:56] <ahmad> MaMoUs: ok, this is my /etc/fstab file contents, http://paste.ubuntu.com/459231/
[21:56] <guntbert> !u | MaMoUs
[21:56] <wanderingi> im trying to install a web script but its telling me certain directories are unwritable. I am logged in as user and the directories are owned by the group the user belongs to. Would the web script be trying to run as something else and what would i need to do?
[21:56] <ahmad> MaMoUs: sorry for late.
[21:56] <squircle> guntbert: didn't know about that bot shortcut; thanks!
[21:57] <sebsebseb> Hi
[21:57] <squircle> !hi | sebsebseb
[21:57] <soadkombucha> HEy sebsebseb
[21:57] <sebsebseb> squircle: I don't like that factoid much
[21:57] <sebsebseb> soadkombucha: Hey
[21:57] <squircle> sebsebseb: me neither :)
[21:58] <MaMoUs> ahmad: tell me if you have any error given
[21:58] <slidinghorn> wanderingi, usually it's because apache is running as a different user...you may have to chown the directories -- run:  ps aux | grep apache     that will tell you what user apache is running as
[21:58] <rp_> hi there, i am trying to install a lightwieght vm with php5.3 + nginix, jeos is really far behind an doing an update doesnt install build software
[21:59] <rp_> can someone point me to a more recent version of a light weight os that can be used as virtual appliance
[21:59] <meme> how can I backup files using LIveCD?
[21:59] <Guest39678> Hello! In many applications, the sound is cracks, what can I do?
[21:59] <MaMoUs> ahmad: your there ?
[21:59] <ahmad> MaMoUs: sorry, I do nto understand what you mean. my error is "An error occurred while mounting /home"
[21:59] <carl-m> rp_: can't google do that?
[21:59] <MaMoUs> ahmad: i know
[21:59] <ahmad> MaMoUs: I get this error at ubuntu starting
[21:59] <slidinghorn> !google | carl-m
[22:00] <avg_guy> Ok was wondering how I would go about burning or converting a avi so a dvd player would read it ?
[22:00] <ahmad> MaMoUs: then what error you talking about now?
[22:00] <MaMoUs> ahmad: can u run this in terminal plz            (sudo mount -a)
[22:00] <slidinghorn> rp_, there are a lot of them...a good place to look for distros is distrowatch.com :)
[22:00] <MaMoUs> ahmad: and tell me if you have any error given
[22:00] <wanderingi> slidinghorn: user     11274  0.0  0.0   3324   796 pts/0    S+   22:00   0:00 grep --color=auto apache
[22:00] <Lantizia> Can anyone recommend a simple accountancy program? (not GnuCash)
[22:00] <carl-m> ubottu: y u b so ped&ic
[22:00] <soadkombucha> rp_: XPud?
[22:00] <wanderingi> is that what i shoud be expecting?
[22:00] <soadkombucha> But it may not have PHP yet
[22:01] <carl-m> wanderingi: apache usually runs as user www-data
[22:01] <soadkombucha> rp_: Or you could try a beta of chromium. Jollycloud maybe?
[22:01] <rp_> carl-m, lol yes but i am not sure hwat i am looking for
[22:01] <MaMoUs> ahmad: soo ?
[22:01] <spiky> avg_guy: you can use devede
[22:01] <gryllida> So. I define Unix style copy paste as 'select to add to buffer' and 'middle click to retrieve from buffer'. It works everywhere but not open office. In Open Office 3.2.1 , Ubuntu 10.04, unix-style paste works, but not copy. System fonts ('serif', 'monospace') are not listed in the fonts dropdown either. Looks like Open Office lacks interation with the system.
[22:01] <gryllida> As I was asked yesterday, I installed latest updates (including a kernel one), which didn't help. I don't care much about fonts, but absense of unix style copy , which I am always using in emacs, terminal, firefox, ... , and then get suddenly stuck and see that it is open office, is very annoying. What can you suggest for a fix?
[22:01] <rp_> i am not only looking for a light weight distro but one wiht the kernel optimised to run in virtualized env
[22:01] <ahmad> MaMoUs:I get error "mount: unknown filesystem type 'dazukofs'"
[22:01] <rp_> slidinghorn, thanks checking that now
[22:01] <gryllida> sebsebseb: greetings
[22:02] <soadkombucha> rp_: Puppylinux
[22:02] <SteamInc> can anybody tell me how to know which driver i have for my graphics card
[22:02] <wanderingi> carl-m so if its running as that what do i need to do? I need to be able to edit these files etc so thats why my group has ownership.
[22:02] <Lantizia> gryllida, I see your copy and paste is working just fine in IRC
[22:02] <erUSUL> SteamInc: grep -i driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:02] <sebsebseb> gryllida: Hi
[22:02] <rp_> i am also looking for debian based distro
[22:02] <rp_> i like apt-get
[22:02] <rp_> :D
[22:02] <carl-m> wanderingi: let me make usre I understand. you have some web app that is runnins out of apache and is unable to edit some files
[22:03] <oCean_> gryllida: maybe try #openoffice.org ?
[22:03] <wanderingi> yes, there are directories and files that it needs to be able to writeto
[22:03] <gryllida> Lantizia: Indeed it works Everywhere, even in Terminal, but not in OpenOfficeOrg.
[22:03] <carl-m> wanderingi: and you want to be able to edit them as your own user as well
[22:03] <wanderingi> yes
[22:03] <gryllida> oCean_, They said they aren't able to help with integration of OOo with the OS, and redirected me here.
[22:03] <FoolishOwl> I'm experimenting with NFS. I'm wondering if there's a relatively simple way to export a folder so that everyone has read access, but write access requires a password.
[22:03] <avg_guy> spiky, thanks
[22:04] <carl-m> wanderingi: just one user, or a whole user group?
[22:04] <oCean_> gryllida: personally I find that a weird answer. Since you've proven that all other apps work just fine
[22:04] <vlt> Hello. What is the easiest (non cli) way for a new Ubuntu user to encode a wav file to ogg or mp3?
[22:04] <SteamInc> thanks
[22:04] <slidinghorn> rp_, you may want to try Damn Small Linux.  It's debian-based and is -- well...damn small ;)  http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/
[22:05] <erUSUL> vlt: soundconverter ?
[22:05] <MaMoUs> ahmad: did you install Avira ?
[22:05] <alexias> hello everyone... I am looking for an app to convert eps to pdf...  google tells me there is an epstopdf, pstopdf, ps2pdf, and a number of varieties of the same name.... so far apt-get install can't find any of them. any ideas?
[22:05] <ahmad> MaMoUs: yes, I am installing avira
[22:05] <Lantizia> rp_, or just try debian :)
[22:05] <wanderingi> well i dont mind, but i need my user "user" to be able to edit them and as long as thats possible im happy
[22:05] <MaMoUs> ahmad: u are installing or installed ?
[22:05] <carl-m> Lantizia: I was assuming he thought debian was too big
[22:06] <Lantizia> debian is tiny if you do a minimal install
[22:06] <TuxthePenguin> alexias: Does it say there is a additional repository or download?
[22:06] <ahmad> MaMoUs: Avira is installed on my system and already running
[22:06] <TuxthePenguin> Otherwise you might need to enable all of your repositories
[22:06] <FoolishOwl> wanderingi, couldn't you just edit them as the superuser, then chown the files to whatever program needs to access them?
[22:06] <alexias> it just says 'can't find the package
[22:06] <Pirate_Hunter> Lantizia, so is ubuntu if you do minimal install
[22:07] <ahmad> MaMoUs: is Avira causing any problem?
[22:07] <MaMoUs> ahmad: yes
[22:07] <carl-m> wanderingi: if it's just one user, I would change the group ownership of the files to www-data, and leave the user ownrship set to you. if the web app creates new files, you may need to make the directories u+s as well
[22:07] <MaMoUs> ahmad: oky i found the problem
[22:07] <ahmad> MaMoUs: then I will remove it.
[22:07] <wanderingi> carl-m how do i do that
[22:07] <MaMoUs> ahmad: wait
[22:07] <ahmad> MaMoUs: ok
[22:08]  * alexias looks to see if any repositories arent enabled. i thought they all were...
[22:08] <alexias> ah sth is amiss there
[22:08] <MaMoUs> ahmad: write this in terminal to backup ur file
[22:08] <carl-m> wanderingi: say that the top-level directory is /directory and your username is USER. you'd run : sudo chown -R USER:www-data /directory
[22:09] <alexias> silly me.... retry....
[22:09] <rp_> Lantizia, jeos was jsut 100mb that's kind of something that i want
[22:09] <MaMoUs> ahmad: cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bk
[22:09] <gryllida> oCean_: ok, but still, if you know how to fix, feel free to suggest, I'm having this annoying issue for more than a week.
[22:10] <ahmad> MaMoUs: ok, done
[22:10] <eskici> is there anybody out there who can help me?, some times I can`t shut down the computer
[22:10] <Kangarooo> eskici: thats often? u have x/k/ubuntu ?
[22:10] <eskici> I have Ubuntu 10,04 version
[22:10] <gryllida> "Xubuntu"? What is it?
[22:10] <MaMoUs> ahmad: open the file and delet from # DazukoFS  to the end
[22:10] <rp_> vmbuilder, that's what i needed
[22:10] <rp_> :)
[22:11] <zcat[1]> !xubuntu | gryllida
[22:11] <rp_> https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/jeos-and-vmbuilder.html for anyone who mightbe interested
[22:11] <MaMoUs> ahmad: wait
[22:11] <aliquerer> updated to 10.04 and now I have no sound in Firefox (youtube etc.) what to do?
[22:11] <ahmad> MaMoUs: ok
[22:11] <gryllida> Thank you.
[22:11] <MaMoUs> ahmad: ok do it now
[22:11] <Kangarooo> eskici: have u installed any other gdm manager or maybe any other x/k/ubuntu-desktop package? is that often?
[22:12] <Kangarooo> aliquerer: in sound check if sound is enabled
[22:12] <ahmad> MaMoUs: ok, done
[22:12] <ahmad> MaMoUs: what next?
[22:12] <MaMoUs> ahmad: delet from (# DazukoFS) to the end
[22:12] <MaMoUs> ahmad: done ?
[22:12] <aliquerer> Kangarooo: sound works perfectly, except in firefox
[22:12] <ahmad> MaMoUs: yes
[22:12] <MaMoUs> ahmad: ok now reboot and tell me what happen i will wait u here
[22:12] <wanderingi> carl-m: the webapp still cant write to the directories
[22:13] <ahmad> MaMoUs: ok, thank you MaMoUs, for your concern.
[22:13] <ChB82> hello! is anybody using ubuntu on a lenovo s10-3 ?
[22:13] <slidinghorn> !anyone | ChB82
[22:13] <eskici> the last few days it hapen often, I am not expert of linux
[22:13] <carl-m> wanderingi: replace /directory with your actual directory, run : ls -ld /directory
[22:13] <wanderingi> carl-m: drwxrwxr-x  7 user www-data  4096 2009-10-12 07:13 xampp
[22:13] <gryllida> aliquerer: Try safe mode: http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Safe+Mode
[22:13] <wanderingi> thats what i get when i do ls - al now which seems ok
[22:13] <blacktortilla> hi
[22:13] <gryllida> Hi!
[22:13] <blacktortilla> cant delete a user account
[22:13] <blacktortilla> please help
[22:13] <carl-m> wanderingi: yes. apache should be able to write to that
[22:14] <gryllida> What error do you get?
[22:14] <Kangarooo> aliquerer: check all sound settings. also check is sound only in YT (flash) not working or also in some video (non-flash) ? try this video http://videobin.org/+1bu/1jx.html
[22:14] <slidinghorn> !details | eskici blacktortilla
[22:14] <blacktortilla> none i click delete and it wont do anything
[22:14] <blacktortilla> i have ubuntu 10.4
[22:14] <gryllida> blacktortilla: same after a reboot?
[22:14] <ChB82> how can i use the anti shock feature of the hdd in my lenovo s10-3?
[22:14] <blacktortilla> yes
[22:14] <blacktortilla> cant activate it either
[22:15] <Kurogane> how do you make when booting i enter in mode console ?
[22:15] <eskici> I am using Ubuntu 10,04 version, what moreinformatiopn you need
[22:15] <jmeng> hey there, I'm having some troubles with nvidia-current in lucid. Every now and then, I get an error message on X startup saying that the nvidia driver couldn't be loaded. This happens randomly - sometimes everything works perfectly. Any ideas on this?
[22:15] <blacktortilla> im on my account but im trying to enable her account and it wont let me delete or enable
[22:15] <slidinghorn> eskici, read the factoid and it tells you what information could help
[22:15] <blacktortilla> her as in my sister
[22:15] <gryllida> blacktortilla, hmm.
[22:15] <carl-m> wanderingi: what error message do you get, exactly?
[22:16] <blacktortilla> when i set up her account i clicked dont ask for password
[22:16] <eskici> what is factoid?
[22:16] <slidinghorn> blacktortilla, are you sure that your user account has sudo privileges?
[22:16] <wanderingi> i just try to run the script and it tells me the directories are unwriteable
[22:16] <blacktortilla> yes
[22:16] <LJRuff> !ask | eskici
[22:16] <erUSUL> eskici: things ubottu knows
[22:16] <blacktortilla> my account does
[22:16] <MaMoUs> ahmad: did it work ?
[22:16] <erUSUL> !bot | eskici
[22:16] <blacktortilla> is there a console command i can use?
[22:16] <zcat[1]> !factoid
[22:16] <spiky> Kurogane: you want to enter console at boot?
[22:17] <zcat[1]> there's a factoid factoid, cool..
[22:17] <Kurogane> spiky: yes
[22:17] <spiky> Kurogane: esc key
[22:17] <Kurogane> huh
[22:17] <beefheart> where does apt-add-respository store the added ppa info? /etc/apt/sources.list only has the official stuff
[22:18] <shadow4295> Can anyone help me install java?
[22:18] <erUSUL> beefheart: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[22:18] <carl-m> wanderingi: I thought this was a web app. what user are you running the script as?
[22:18] <spiky> Kurogane:  hold esc key while booting
[22:18] <erUSUL> !java | shadow4295
[22:18] <LJRuff> !java | shadow4295
[22:18] <beefheart> erUSUL: nice, thanks.
[22:18] <blacktortilla> my sister told me that she would click on her account yesterday and it logged on but when the computer went into power save mode, she moved the mouse and it asked for a password but she doesnt have a password set.
[22:18] <erUSUL>  
[22:19] <wanderingi> i dont know i just have it unzipped to a directory and go to   localhost/install/install.php
[22:19] <LJRuff> blacktortilla, just hitting Enter (blank passwd) doesn't work?
[22:19] <beefheart> erUSUL: is removing them as simple as deleting the file and sudo apt-get update?
[22:19] <slidinghorn> wanderingi, what is this script?
[22:19] <carl-m> wanderingi: ok. so you're running it out of your browser
[22:19] <erUSUL> beefheart: yes; or use the gui System>Admin...>software sources
[22:19] <eskici> I have to ask with questions because I am new, i am using not more than one week
[22:20] <alvnnnn> How do I see what files a deb providers?
[22:20] <beefheart> erUSUL: i've got a minimal install with just cli so i'll have to delete :)
[22:20] <carl-m> wanderingi: just to double-check apache, try: ps aux | grep apache
[22:20] <erUSUL> beefheart: ok; fair enough
[22:20] <wanderingi> user     11513  0.0  0.0   3324   800 pts/0    S+   22:20   0:00 grep --color=auto apache
[22:20] <LJRuff> eskici, Welcome to Linux, Ubuntu, and to our humble chat! Please take your time in asking questions, but please, also, understand that we need a lot of details in order to help you. Please ask your question or state your issue so we can help. =)
[22:20] <carl-m> wanderingi: you should also get some lines for apache
[22:20] <carl-m> alvnnnn: dpkg-deb -c should work
[22:21] <wanderingi>  thats everything that i get
[22:21] <traskmind> Whenever I plug in my digital camera (Kodak) or mp3 player (Sansa) Nautilus doesn't recognise it, but an associated application does, but that application can't actually use the device..
[22:21] <carl-m> wanderingi: what webserver is running on the server?
[22:21] <alvnnnn> carl-M: Thanks.... what if you don't have the deb handy but you've already installed the package?
[22:21] <wanderingi> well im using lampp from apachefriends thats all i know
[22:22] <carl-m> alvnnnn: there is a list in /var/lib/dpkg/info/PACKAGE.list
[22:22] <oCean_> gryllida: it is very weird. I tried (writer) several times and sometimes a select will go to paste buffer, sometimes a select wil render buffer empty?
[22:22] <trism> alvnnnn: dpkg -L package_name
[22:22] <alvnnnn> Thank you!
[22:22] <linux_> anyone know if there is an issue which slows the copy and paste in ubuntu 10.04? its not copy and pasting in nautilus half the time with key shortcuts
[22:22] <Omnu> er irc.swiftirc.net
[22:22] <SomehelpPlz> Hello! I could use some help...
[22:22] <LJRuff> !ask | SomehelpPlz
[22:23] <carl-m> wanderingi: are you running ubuntu, then?
[22:23] <wanderingi> yes
[22:23] <eskici> LJRuff: same times the computer wan`t shut down
[22:23] <SomehelpPlz> I just installed Ubuntu 10.04. I cannot connect to the internet. I am unsure how. It says that I am disconnected from the internet.
[22:23] <traskmind> I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 and Nautilus won't recognise my MP3 player or camera when I plug them in, can anyone help me out?
[22:23] <carl-m> ok. I'm not at all familiar with apachefriends, but maybe someone else here can help. I have only every worked with the ordinary ubuntu setup
[22:23] <LJRuff> SomehelpPlz, Is this a wireless connection you're trying to setup?
[22:23] <SomehelpPlz> I tried to do a Connect to a Hidden Network and it tells me: "Disconnected - You are now offline." or something similar.
[22:24] <SomehelpPlz> Yes.
[22:24] <LJRuff> SomehelpPlz, is your wireless light on and/or flashing?
[22:24] <SomehelpPlz> I do not have a wireless light.
[22:24] <Kurogane> spiky: i can't always keep on this msg "[    0.752945] EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode." if i log via ssh i can login
[22:24] <SomehelpPlz> But it is on, I can connect via Windows 7 installed on the same computer.
[22:24] <wanderingi> ah ok well thanks for your help
[22:24] <LJRuff> SomehelpPlz, when you open your network icon do you see any wireless SSID's present?
[22:25] <SomehelpPlz> It doesn't show anything. All it says is "Wired" (disconnected.) "Wireless" (disconnected.)
[22:25] <spiky> SomehelpPlz: it would be better to get wired connection do updates then check for hardware drivers
[22:25] <LJRuff> SomehelpPlz, it doesn't really matter that Windows can connect. Ubuntu might be missing the firmware required to connect via wireless. If this is the case we will need to update it.
[22:25] <merlin2049er> hey
[22:25] <SomehelpPlz> Alright, let me set up something and I will be right back.
[22:26] <LJRuff> Hurry back! =)
[22:26] <gryllida> Anyone can help blacktortilla with the issue of having one user account undeletable and unactiveable?
[22:26] <LJRuff> !hi | merlin2049er
[22:26] <blacktortilla> is this really live help or just bots?
[22:26] <LJRuff> blacktortilla, we're all super-sophisticated help bots.
[22:26] <carl-m> blacktortilla: just bots, but very clever ones
[22:26] <xanderal> Hey guys -- got a question about the ubuntu server 10.04 install
[22:26] <linux_> anyone know if there is an issue which slows the copy and paste in ubuntu 10.04? its not copy and pasting in nautilus half the time with key shortcuts
[22:26] <LJRuff> !ask | xanderal
[22:27] <LJRuff> linux_, none that I know of
[22:27] <xanderal> My server install keeps hanging at the "wiping swap space for security" screen at 21% completion. Any ideas why?
[22:27] <slidinghorn> blacktortilla, run sudo apt-get install pastebinit       then run dmesg | grep [yoursistersusername]
[22:27] <darthvies> Hi
[22:27] <gryllida> Hi
[22:28] <slidinghorn> oops blacktortilla the second command shoudl be dmesg | grep sisters-user-name | pastebinit
[22:28] <LJRuff> slidinghorn, you forgot to pipe that to pastebinit
[22:28] <LJRuff> !hi | darthvies
[22:28] <SomehelpPlz> Okay. I am connected via ethernet cable.
[22:28] <LJRuff> SomehelpPlz, congrats! The first thing we need to do is check for any and all updates. Do you know how?
[22:28] <SomehelpPlz> No idea.
[22:28] <darthvies> I am having problems with the skype for Ubuntu. It has been fine before but it is a beta client and under sound devices it says pulseaudio server (local) :S what should I do
[22:28] <LJRuff> SomehelpPlz, Go to System->Administration->Upgrades
[22:28] <zcat[1]> xanderal, you sure it's hanging? Perhaps that step just takes a loooong time. Any disk activity? How long did you wait for it?
[22:28] <xanderal> My server install keeps hanging at the "wiping swap space for security" screen at 21% completion, Any ideas why?
[22:29] <xanderal> No disk activity, I have been waiting for over 25 minutes.
[22:29] <zcat[1]> ahh, ok.. well that's bad ;)
[22:29] <LJRuff> xanderal, bad disc or (God forbid) bad sectors?
[22:29] <boing> need a hand installing jedit-aou,tar,bz2
[22:29] <SomehelpPlz> Okay, it's downloading package information.
[22:29] <linux_> xanderall: try using a live ubuntu with sswap
[22:30] <wanderingi> carl-m: apache was running as 'nobody' when i ran your script with 'nobody' as the owner everything was fine
[22:30] <LJRuff> SomehelpPlz, Good =) Install all upgrades. You'll probably need to reboot because a kernel upgrade should be coming your way.
[22:30] <carl-m> wanderingi: great!
[22:30] <xanderal> I'm not completely sure about that, my hard-disk is setup via a RAID controller, but I'm fairly certain the RAID controller is stable.
[22:30] <spiky> SomehelpPlz: when it's done check system admin hardware drivers for any
[22:30] <zcat[1]> xanderal, first thing I'd do is a CD check, make sure there isn't a scratch or fingerprint that makes the install CD break
[22:30] <linux_> xanderall: try using a live ubuntu with sswap software installed
[22:31] <wanderingi> yea, thanks for the help!
[22:31] <SomehelpPlz> 315MB download... Will take me about an hour to download completely.
[22:31] <basicxman>  I accidentally removed some things from  System->Preferences->Startup Applications, now Gnome won't  start (Ubuntu 10.04).  How can I restore my changes from the  root terminal in recovery mode?
[22:31] <xanderal> Is there a live disc for the server edition?
[22:31] <spiky> SomehelpPlz:  yep
[22:31] <SomehelpPlz> Am I allowed to idle in here for the required amount of time?
[22:31] <LJRuff> SomehelpPlz, not to mention the inflation and install time - should be an hour and a half.
[22:32] <LJRuff> SomehelpPlz, be our guest! =D
[22:32] <linux_> xanderall: use the general version of ubuntu live (matched to your hardware, probably i386?)
[22:32] <sebsebseb> SomehelpPlz: yes you can idle in here
[22:32] <spiky> SomehelpPlz: i been here all day
[22:32] <gryllida> SomehelpPlz, of course, feel free to stay, enjoy :)
[22:32] <sebsebseb> xanderal: don't think theres a bootable CD where you can try server,  since it doesn't have a GUI, but there is an install CD sure
[22:32] <LJRuff> SomehelpPlz, take sebsebseb for example - he idles here all day and doesn't do much of anything. = /
[22:32] <zcat[1]> xanderal, another thing you can do is change terminals with alt-F? and there's some other screens that might give you clues
[22:32] <sebsebseb> LJRuff: uhmm no
[22:32] <LJRuff> He's like our resident plant. =D
[22:32] <SomehelpPlz> I'm coming from Windows to Linux. Hopefully I can make Ubuntu my new home.
[22:32] <gryllida> LJRuff, helps a lot actually
[22:32] <LJRuff> (sebsebseb gryllida it was a joke)
[22:32] <boing> need a hand installing jedit-aou,tar,bz2
[22:33] <carl-m> xanderal: I haven't tried the server install; have you checked the other terminals to see if there is debugging info on any of them? the debian installer used to have that
[22:33] <xanderal> zcat: I tried this, alt+f4 shows me the output of the install, at the "wiping swap space for security" screen, there is no activity at all.
[22:33] <basicxman>  I accidentally removed some things from  System->Preferences->Startup Applications, now Gnome won't  start (Ubuntu 10.04).  How can I restore my changes from the  root terminal in recovery mode?
[22:33] <gryllida> sebsebseb, you're being very helpful, indeed, about a couple of weeks ago when I was just installing this system :)
[22:33] <SomehelpPlz> Ubuntu can handle Windows Live as I read during the installation? Is this the MSN messenger I am thinking of or another system?
[22:34] <zcat[1]> xanderal, well I'm all out of ideas ;)
[22:34] <linux_> xanderal: if its the cd scratched, you can try the ubuntu netboot cd and download ubuntu server
[22:34] <xanderal> carl-m: Just like I mentioned to zcat, looking at terminal output during the install -- the last thing that happened was my user-setup finished.
[22:34] <sebsebseb> LJRuff: I only turned my computer on an hour or so ago something like that.  Also in 2009  I was very much so one of the main helpers in here, but now I don't help as much in here, since there are other things I can do of course,  plus I am not so keen on Ubuntu's current direction.
[22:34] <beefheart> are there any builtin cleanup commands for dpkg/apt-get/etc? i want to clean up all old files
[22:34] <LJRuff> gryllida, sebsebseb is probably one of the most helpful people here. I always see him here keepin' us in line. ;)
[22:34] <linux_> anyone know if there is an issue which slows the copy and paste in ubuntu 10.04? its not copy and pasting in nautilus half the time with key shortcuts
[22:34] <sebsebseb> gryllida: yeah I remember sort of
[22:34] <LJRuff> sebsebseb, same here - I've moved to arch linux. Still like to help the newbies tho...
[22:35] <sebsebseb> LJRuff: yeah I am here for the newbies
[22:35] <carl-m> xanderal: I think this is an installer bug; I found something similar at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/432422
[22:35] <LJRuff> SomehelpPlz, Windows Live? We have the MSN protocol on our messenger.
[22:35] <ThatGuyOverThere> my shift, control, and alt keys won't work on my keyboard. can anyone help
[22:35] <un214> I've been considering installing debian core and moving my ubuntu installation to a chroot jail under it
[22:35] <LJRuff> ThatGuyOverThere, did you identify your keyboard correctly during install?
[22:35] <basicxman> Anybody able to help me?
[22:35] <linux_> xanderal: the only workaround would be to use a live linux (such as a regular ubuntu live cd) and install sswap to remove the swap for security, if you need this to be done
[22:35] <teknohan> hi guys my skype doesn`t see my webcam it says I don`t have webcam how can I fix that cos it makes me mad!
[22:35] <LJRuff> !ask | basicxman
[22:35] <gryllida> ThatGuyOverThere: did they work previously, or is this fresh install?
[22:36] <ThatGuyOverThere> if you mean the keyboard model, yes. it didn't ask for the model when you install.
[22:36] <ThatGuyOverThere> this is a fresh install.
[22:36] <linux_> teknohan: skype is not offically supported by ubuntu developers
[22:36] <gryllida> what's the keyboard model?
[22:36] <LJRuff> ThatGuyOverThere, I meant the keyboard type. Is it a USA QWERTY standard?
[22:36] <ThatGuyOverThere> anyway, i tried setting the manufacturer and model in the keyboard settings, but they don't have the brand.
[22:36] <xanderal> carl-m: That's what I was afraid of. I guess I'll have to get a desktop/live-version of the CD then and install everything else manually, later.
[22:36] <basicxman>  I accidentally removed some things from  System->Preferences->Startup Applications, now Gnome won't  start (Ubuntu 10.04).  How can I restore my changes from the  root terminal in recovery mode?
[22:36] <teknohan> :S:S:S:SS:S:S:S
[22:36] <xanderal> Thanks for the help guys.
[22:36] <ThatGuyOverThere> ljruff yes.
[22:36] <basicxman> ubottu: Sorry.
[22:36] <boing> ThatGuyOverThere, Did you try a reboot
[22:36] <LJRuff> ThatGuyOverThere, hmmm
[22:36] <sebsebseb> LJRuff: I moved to Mandriva  at the end of November or early December,  towards the end of last year anyway.  Still got the other computer on Ubuntu though that my brothers are also using,  and I stil have an interest in Ubuntu, since yeah it has most users on the desktop at the moment.
[22:36] <teknohan> I have to use skype !
[22:36] <ThatGuyOverThere> it's a rocketfish bluetooth keyboard. kind of an obscure manufacturer.
[22:37] <zcat[1]> xanderal, do the install with no swap and install a swapfile/swap aprtition later?
[22:37] <lee_> where are the programs stored??
[22:37] <carl-m> xanderal: if that bug is right, it;'s just extremely slow
[22:37] <linux_> teknohan: you can check your /dev to see if there is a video0 device, if not, linux is not detecting your webcam
[22:37] <carl-m> but they said it did finish
[22:37] <un214> basicxman: want something brute force?
[22:37] <zcat[1]> xanderal, also is it true hardware raid, software raid, or 'fake raid'?
[22:37] <linux_> xanderal: sswap takes many hours
[22:37] <hiexpo> evening all
[22:37] <basicxman> un214: Anything that will work :P
[22:37] <teknohan> linux_: I use webcam on amsn but skype doesn`t seee that!!
[22:38] <un214> basicxman: rm -rf ~basicxman/.gnom*
[22:38] <linux_> xanderal: it is wiping your swap 36 times with random data
[22:38] <LJRuff> sebsebseb, I officially moved away from Ubuntu a while ago... 9.04 was the last real ubuntu IMO, but 9.10 looked the best... I just started using Arch yesterday - before that I used Fedora and Debian.
[22:38] <darthvies> Where can I find the stable relase for skype on ubuntu
[22:38] <basicxman> un214: har har
[22:38] <xanderal> zcat: It's true hardware RAID
[22:38] <zcat[1]> why does the server install do sswap anyhow? never heard of it before!
[22:38] <xanderal> linux_: Is there anyway to stop it?
[22:38] <un214> basicxman: that's not a joke -- the idea is to reset your gnome profile
[22:38] <linux_> xanderal: not sure, you could try to kill the program running it, not sure what server edition uses, sswap or another app
[22:39] <iceroot> basicxman: sudo mv ~/.gnome* ~/backup-gnome
[22:39] <iceroot> basicxman: dont use rm, use mv
[22:39] <lee_> RAID , through the motherboard<<
[22:39] <linux_> darthvies: http://www.skype.com/go/download
[22:39] <teknohan> linux_:  mate sorry tehere is no viedo0 ! what will I do ?
[22:39] <xanderal> linux_: How can I figure out exactly what's going on? alt+f4 doesn't show me anything.
[22:40] <xanderal> linux_: How would I narrow down the pid of sswap?
[22:40] <sebsebseb> LJRuff: yeah 9.04  was great, except for a little feature that I didn't like,  and now things are going uhmm, as in mixture of bad and good.  Anyway maybe 10.10 will be the next properly good release,  9.10,  but much more so 10.04, are let downs for me.
[22:40] <carl-m> xanderal: does it show that the dd command was run?
[22:40] <iceroot> darthvies: in the partner-repo
[22:40] <zcat[1]> 36 times with random is just stupid anyhow... all leading data recovery firms agree that with a modern drive there is no available or theoretical way to recoer data after even a single zero-wipe
[22:40] <xanderal> carl-m: Yeah, dd is running right now
[22:40] <linux_> xanderal: can you get to a new screen with alt+ctrl+F2 (then alt+ctrl+F1 to return)
[22:40] <zcat[1]> xanderal, killall sswap
[22:40] <xanderal> carl-m: specifically -- "dd if /dev/zero of /dev/mapper/username-swap_1
[22:40] <linux_> zcat[1]: does server edition use sswap?
[22:40] <xanderal> Hrm
[22:40] <Scunizi> xanderal: linux_ctrl+alt+F7 to return
[22:41] <carl-m> right. if that bug report is right, the problem is that invoking dd like that is just really slow
[22:41] <xanderal> It just notified me that my install finished. =P
[22:41] <sebsebseb> LJRuff: anyway going off topic here, but this is a good thing to end it with, or basically end it with,  will be interesting to see how Ubuntu developers deal with Gnome 3 :)
[22:41] <carl-m> and needs to be invoked with a larger bs parameter
[22:41] <basicxman> iceroot: Okay, thank you.  Rebooting now.
[22:41] <zcat[1]> I dunno.. if that's the process name, that's how you'd kill it
[22:41] <linux_> Scunizi: hes in server edition
[22:41] <darthvies> partner repo?
[22:41] <iceroot> basicxman: restarting x-server is ok, no need for reboot
[22:41] <beefheart> if there is are several items listed under "dpkg --get-selections" as deinstall, are they actually uninstalled? if they arent uninstalled, how can i? and if they are uninstalled, how do i clear their entry?
[22:41] <kandrew> What's up, y'all!?
[22:41] <Scunizi> linux_: ah.. sorry 'bout that
[22:41] <iceroot> !partner | darthvies
[22:41] <carl-m> historically, dd has never had any sort of status output
[22:41] <kandrew> What's Ubuntu?
[22:41] <basicxman> iceroot: Fresh install, wanted to reboot anyways due to wireless driver changes.
[22:41] <iceroot> basicxman: ok
[22:41] <slidinghorn> !ubuntu | kandinski
[22:42] <basicxman> iceroot: Gnome still crashes.
[22:42] <slidinghorn> kandrew, ^^
[22:42] <kandrew> :D
[22:42] <iceroot> linux_: server-edition only have 2 differences from normal ubuntu. another kernel (pae) and no gui
[22:42] <sebsebseb> kandrew: A Linux distribution.  What are Linux distributions or distros, they are alternatives to Unix,  however distros such as Ubuntu can be also used as a good alternative to Windows.
[22:42] <kandrew> Thanks
[22:42] <xanderal> linux_: Don't know if it had anything to do with it, but I tried "kill sswap" and got the response "bad pid", then hit alt+ctrl+f2 (nothing happened), went back to the install screen and it told me the install was finished.
[22:42] <zcat[1]> I usually use cat /dev/zero > /dev/whatever for zero wipes.. dd is slow!
[22:42] <iceroot> basicxman: error message please
[22:42] <sebsebseb> !distros | kandrew
[22:42] <kandrew> I have no idea what ANY of that means.
[22:42] <basicxman> iceroot: h/o
[22:42] <kandrew> But, I'll accept it,
[22:43] <linux_> xanderal: does that mean your problem is solved?
[22:43] <sebsebseb> kandrew: and many others. http://www.distrowatch.com
[22:43] <basicxman> iceroot: Where is the error log? When I login to start a new session it just hangs for a second and goes back to the login menu.
[22:43] <xanderal> linux_: Trying to see if this is the case right now.
[22:43] <beefheart> if there is are several items listed under "dpkg --get-selections" as deinstall, are they actually uninstalled? if they arent uninstalled, how can i? and if they are uninstalled, how do i clear their entry?
[22:44] <darthvies> I put sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" in the termina;
[22:44] <alteregoa> darmok and jalad at tanagra
[22:44] <kandrew> Well... I'm outta here. Too much action. Later!
[22:44] <linux_> beefheart: if you want to purge all configuration files and binary files, you can sudo dpkg --purge <software>, to remove just binaries and libraries (unshared), do sudo apt-get remove <software>
[22:44] <xanderal> linux_: Think it's good to go. Guess I just needed to wait a tad bit longer.
[22:44] <xanderal> linux_: Thanks for the help, you too, carl-m: and zcat:.
[22:45] <iceroot> basicxman: /var/log/syslog  maybe
[22:46] <shadow4295> is there a way to play games such as WoW or starcraft on ubuntu?
[22:46] <sebsebseb> !wine | shadow4295
[22:46] <sebsebseb> !wow
[22:46] <linux_> shadow4295: sometimes there are linux version of the games, such as unreal tournament
[22:47] <shadow4295> Oh.
[22:47] <basicxman> iceroot: Nothing really interesting in there.
[22:48] <iceroot> basicxman: with another user you can login on gnome?
[22:48] <linux_> anyone know if there is an issue which slows the copy and paste in ubuntu 10.04? its not copy and pasting in nautilus half the time with key shortcuts
[22:49] <basicxman> iceroot: Lemme create another user and try.
[22:49] <shadow4295>  One last question if I want to make a java game run do I have to go to applications>System Tools> Sun Java 6?
[22:50] <gryllida> shadow4295: just double click it?
[22:50] <SomehelpPlz> ahh 4 minutes left :)
[22:50] <linux_> shadow4295: in command-line, you can java -jar *.jar or right click open with OpenJava
[22:50] <iceroot> basicxman: mv ~/.config ~/old-config && sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[22:50] <basicxman> iceroot: No, I can't login under another user.
[22:50] <basicxman> I will try that ^.  Thanks.
[22:51] <iceroot> basicxman: oh
[22:51] <iceroot> basicxman: then there is not only the config broken, if another user has the same problem
[22:51] <spiky> SomehelpPlz: then see if any hardware drivers avalible
[22:51] <basicxman> iceroot: >_> All I did was edit the startup applications
[22:52] <basicxman> iceroot: Should I just enter my server cd and repair?
[22:52] <SomehelpPlz> Now is it possible to use a phone as a modem on this as well?
[22:52] <basicxman> I would rather not completely reinstall.
[22:52] <iceroot> basicxman: server? gnome?
[22:52] <SomehelpPlz> I'd like to dial my phone and connect to the internet, but we can get to that when we reach this point.
[22:53] <spiky> SomehelpPlz: it is never done it tho
[22:53] <basicxman> iceroot: Yeah I installed gnome as it will be a VNC server too and I want a GUI when using it at school.
[22:53] <iceroot> basicxman: what changes did you to the startup-applications
[22:53] <basicxman> iceroot: Just removed useless stuff like Bluetooth and Printing.
[22:53] <SomehelpPlz> longest 4 minutes of my life...
[22:54] <slow-motion> n8
[22:54] <linux_> basicxman: wish Ubuntu would make it easy for those to be removed
[22:54] <gryllida> ok, I checked for the issue again, now all apps can copy in unix-style (select to add to buffer), but when pasting into same window as I copied from, it works in Terminal and Emacs, but not in gEdit or OOo 3.2 - what I copied pastes into other apps just fine, but not into where I copied from. What can I do?
[22:55] <basicxman> linux_: They usually are, not sure exactly why I'm having trouble all of the sudden.
[22:55] <iceroot> basicxman: gnome is starting, so you see gnome for some seconds? or is gdm crashing?
[22:55] <SomehelpPlz> Crap..
[22:55] <SomehelpPlz> the download stopped
[22:55] <SomehelpPlz> on a xulrunner-1.9.2 download...
[22:55] <linux_> basicxman: i've always tried to do that and it wants to uninstall ubuntu-desktop (its packaged tightly with it)
[22:55] <iceroot> SomehelpPlz: you have a support-question?
[22:56] <SomehelpPlz> I don't know... will it continue?
[22:56] <linux_> !ubuntu-offtopic | SomehelpPlz
[22:56] <hiexpo> happy  4th of july you bloody americans  :)
[22:56] <basicxman> iceroot: I suppose gdm is crashing.
[22:56] <gryllida> hiexpo: *cough* 5th here, Au.
[22:56] <iceroot> basicxman: but you see the password-dialog?
[22:56] <basicxman> iceroot: Yes.
[22:56] <hiexpo> kick rocks get outta here lol
[22:56] <iceroot> SomehelpPlz: what? wget? firefox? synaptic? apt-get?
[22:56] <basicxman> iceroot: I then proceed to login, it accepts my credentials, then crashes back to the gdm login screen.
[22:56] <hiexpo> oh in aus yeppers
[22:56] <SomehelpPlz> Ah, it continued.
[22:57] <SomehelpPlz> It was the upgrade download manager thing
[22:57] <Compiling> I was having the same issue with gnome on NetBSD
[22:57] <Compiling> hmm
[22:58] <iceroot> basicxman: sudo cat /var/log/gdm/* to pastebin
[22:58] <WJ> checking for g_malloc in -lgtk-x11-2.0... no
[22:58] <basicxman> iceroot: Okay, will take a few minutes.
[22:59] <spiky> exit
[22:59]  * basicxman has to copy log to thumbdrive, paste on laptop.
[23:00] <WJ> hi, I got a problem with a configure and don't know what it is, got any hint?
[23:00] <WJ> here's the problem:
[23:00] <WJ> checking for g_malloc in -lgtk-x11-2.0... no
[23:00] <WJ> configure: error: Error in GTK
[23:00] <FloodBot1> WJ: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:01] <root> hello
[23:02] <basicxman> iceroot: gdm folder is blank.
[23:02] <basicxman> Wait h/o
[23:02] <basicxman> Hmm
[23:03] <KnifeySpooney> hi, for some reason my cursor theme doesn't show all the time and defaults to the normal DMZ-White.. i can only see the correct theme when i hover over a clickable object
[23:03] <KnifeySpooney> or when I have my cursor inside a flash app.
[23:03] <SomehelpPlz> Okay installation is done, restarting and logging in now
[23:03] <SomehelpPlz> What do I do to find hardware device updates?
[23:04] <KnifeySpooney> SomehelpPlz, you can check for hardware drivers in System > Applications > Hardware Drivers
[23:04] <basicxman> iceroot: I can't copy any of those logs because all the files within are an "Invalid argument"
[23:04] <KnifeySpooney> there may be none listed, in that case you're good
[23:04] <KnifeySpooney> just check for normal software updates with System > Administration > Update Manager
[23:05] <SomehelpPlz> basicxman: Your argument is invalid? :P
[23:05] <basicxman> SomehelpPlz: Copying them via cp -_-
[23:05] <basicxman> (cp -R0
[23:05] <basicxman> h/o I'll just echo everything to a log file.
[23:05] <iceroot> basicxman: sudo cat /var/log/gdm/* > ~/mygdm.log
[23:06] <iceroot> !pastebinit | basicxman
[23:06] <iceroot> basicxman: sudo cat /var/log/gdm/* | pastebinit  to put that on pastebin
[23:07] <KnifeySpooney> Does anyone know how to get my cursor theme working correctly? I've tried a reboot without success.
[23:08] <SomehelpPlz> Thank you Iceman,RFJeff(or something) you helped me get that one problem solved
[23:08] <SomehelpPlz> Now I need to find out how to dial a broadband connection?
[23:09] <paulmiller> HI
[23:09] <slidinghorn> SomehelpPlz, there's no dialing involved if it's broadband.
[23:09] <slidinghorn> !hi | paulmiller
[23:09] <SomehelpPlz> Mobile Broadband
[23:09] <SomehelpPlz> How do you dial a connection to #777 with a certain username and password?
[23:09] <Anarchy> What directories are created when adding a user, I know video, downloads, documents
[23:10] <s414414> 誰是台灣人或者是會講中文的？
[23:10] <lucas-arg> how can i remove ubuntu default configurations so any time i change gnome themes metacity buttons dont change location?
[23:10] <Filip-dk> Hello I am trying to get h264 codec working on my ubunto for kdenlive, does some have a hint how to make it work ?
[23:10] <basicxman> iceroot: http://pastebin.com/kY7DFaxD
[23:10] <slidinghorn> SomehelpPlz,  https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/internet/C/connecting-mobile.html
[23:11] <gryllida> !jp | s414414
[23:11] <s414414> ？？？
[23:11] <iceroot> basicxman: #
[23:11] <s414414> 有台灣的嗎？
[23:11] <iceroot> gdm-simple-slave[1190]: WARNING: Unable to load file '/etc/gdm/custom.conf': No such file or directory
[23:11] <lee_> wtf
[23:11] <slidinghorn> !cn | s414414
[23:11] <basicxman> s414414: /join #ubuntu-jp
[23:11] <Anarchy> ubottu, what are the default directories inside a users home dir when creating the account can you tell me please.
[23:11] <iceroot> lee_: no need that here
[23:11] <basicxman> iceroot: How do I fix it? :P
[23:11] <s414414> ok
[23:11] <slidinghorn> he's speaking chinese...not japanese
[23:11] <s414414> ok
[23:12] <s414414> ok
[23:12] <s414414> ok
[23:12] <basicxman> iceroot: It's a blank file.
[23:12] <FloodBot1> s414414: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:12] <iceroot> basicxman: let me look into that file here
[23:12] <lee_> no need for what ICEROOT ??  pm?
[23:12] <basicxman> iceroot: Thank you so much.
[23:12] <SomehelpPlz> slidinghorn: It does not come up with adding a new connection
[23:12] <iceroot> lee_: for the language
[23:12] <SomehelpPlz> How do you manually dial #777 with username and a password?
[23:12] <lee_> what language?
[23:13] <SomehelpPlz> In Ubuntu
[23:13] <basicxman> iceroot: On my other Ubuntu box that file is blank.
[23:13] <basicxman> It doesn't even exist actually.
[23:13] <slidinghorn> SomehelpPlz, https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/internet/C/troubleshooting-mobile.html
[23:14] <hiexpo> lol
[23:14] <iceroot> basicxman: http://pastebin.com/TtQmxPDG  replace the username
[23:14] <iceroot> basicxman: on lucid i have that file but if i am correct, that is my auto-login settings
[23:14] <basicxman> iceroot: Insert that into /etc/gdm/custom.conf?
[23:14] <hiexpo> hey can someones help me out whats the # for 911
[23:15] <SomehelpPlz> That doesn't work either slidinghorn
[23:15] <iceroot> basicxman: maybe first try this "sudo touch /etc/gdm/custon.conf && /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[23:15] <hiexpo> omg
[23:15] <basicxman> iceroot: Okay
[23:15] <slidinghorn> SomehelpPlz, then your phone isn't yet supported and needs to have a rule written for it...your best bet is to try the forums @ this point: http://ubuntuforums.org
[23:15] <sebsebseb> !omg > hiexpo
[23:16] <basicxman> iceroot: No luck on your latter advice.
[23:16] <iceroot> basicxman: hm
[23:16] <basicxman> iceroot: Going to place in your pastebin to /etc/gdm/custom.conf
[23:16] <hiexpo> what
[23:16] <hiexpo> ok whatever
[23:17] <Loshki> hiexpo: I hate that particular ubottu 'factoid'
[23:17] <lucas-arg> how can i remove ubuntu default configurations so any time i change gnome themes metacity buttons dont change location?
[23:17] <hiexpo> Loshki,  - sebsebseb  forced it
[23:19] <lee_> u have to change the buttons to what u want,, a cust job.. then save it
[23:19] <khelvan> Hi, something on my laptop is eating up HDD space in /home...a few MB per second are being used...I now have less than 750MB left on /home, and I'm not doing anything to change HDD space...how can I find out what keeps taking up free space?
[23:19] <anrxc> hi, where can one download the ubuntu gtk theme "light" (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Brand#New%20GtkThemes)
[23:19] <iceroot> khelvan: du -sh ~
[23:19] <Loshki> hiexpo: I know, and he does more than his fair share of support, so he's entitled, but it remains my least favorite factoid...
[23:20] <basicxman> iceroot: No luck.
[23:20] <Pirate_Hunter> khelvan, you might want to look at du command i.e. du ~/
[23:20] <basicxman> iceroot: Just going to reinstall.
[23:21] <khelvan> Pirate_Hunter: What will that tell me? Sorry, I'm pretty new :)
[23:21] <Pirate_Hunter> khelvan, I am sure that for those using ubuntu desktop (gnome) their is a disk management in the menu
[23:21] <iceroot> basicxman: hm, sorry :(
[23:21] <SomehelpPlz> Pirate_Hunter: It shows the bytes being used in all directories
[23:21] <Pirate_Hunter> khelvan, that will list the contents in you home directory so you'll know what is taking up space
[23:21] <basicxman> iceroot: No worries, thank you so much for your help.
[23:22] <iceroot> basicxman: still need the files from your home?
[23:22] <Pirate_Hunter> khelvan, http://www.watchingthenet.com/ubuntu-guide-for-windows-users-how-to-check-hard-drive-disk-space.html use disk analyser it is easier
[23:22] <tarandus> hey!
[23:22] <rethus> where can i see on server1 - that i be ping.... if i ping from my local pc to server1?
[23:22] <rethus> which logfiles
[23:23] <rethus> or even can i see it with netstat?
[23:23] <Compiling> use tcpdump
[23:23] <iceroot> basicxman: try this "mkdir -p ~/backup-of-dotfiles && mv ~/.* ~/backup-of-dotfiles && sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[23:23] <Compiling> not sure if ubuntu comes with it
[23:23] <rethus> i have debian on my server
[23:23] <Pirate_Hunter> SomehelpPlz, if you use the -h property it converts to human readable their are other commands that can be used to make it more useful and friendly but I aint going into those
[23:23] <basicxman> iceroot: Okay
[23:23] <rethus> so i start tcpdump on server1 ?
[23:23] <iceroot> rethus: #debian
[23:23] <PaulEycks> HiHo
[23:24] <iceroot> rethus: and ping is (luckily) not logged
[23:24] <paulmiller> LoHi
[23:24] <tarandus> I had a quick question.
[23:24] <slidinghorn> !ask | tarandus
[23:24] <tarandus> haha, nice, thanks
[23:24] <Compiling> rethus: if it has tcpdump yes, if not download wireshark
[23:24] <cwraig> is there any way that i can either allow unexpected ssh keys to the same IP or add a second key to a remote IP so it doesnt flag as a changed key?
[23:25] <xiong> tarandus, I had a quick question once. But it was too quick for me and now it's gone.
[23:25] <rethus> i have following problem... i have virtualize my server, and have add an ip to an openvz-container... but if i enter the ne added ip, i got an timeout
[23:26] <rethus> Compiling: tcpdump does much output. which parms should i use?
[23:26] <hiexpo> Loshki,  - i do to but i am gonna give up on it just cause of that /// silly factoid lol or omg /// I come here at night when i can't sleep and help others because usually at night backtrak and pentoo are slow so thought I'd be helpful here // but sometimes i wonder why if i am gonna be repromanded for simpleton things ya know
[23:26] <ikonia> rethus: tcpdump wil output loads
[23:26] <iceroot> rethus: ignore port 22 (see manpage for correct syntax)
[23:27] <h00k> hiexpo: you're welcome to help here, but stay on topic and keep #ubuntu-offtopic for chatter
[23:27] <iceroot> rethus: without ssh, tcpdump is more readable
[23:27] <oren> after upgrade to lucid I can't connect to my non-encrypted wirless network. I see it in wicd but get: "Connection Failed: Unable to Get IP Address". any tips? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9547999#post9547999
[23:27] <Loshki> hiexpo: one of the prices you pay for a group public forum like this is that there are rules, not all of which one agrees with. But I've seen how quickly things deteriorate when the ops are unavailable, so even though I hate it, I adhere to it...
[23:27] <khelvan> Pirate_Hunter: The problem appears to be /home/brian/.local/share/gvfs-metadata
[23:28] <Compiling> rethus: if you want to filter icmp packets, use tcpdump -i eth0 icmp
[23:28] <tarandus> I found a dusty old laptop in one of my boxes a few days ago and was wondering if I should throw Ubuntu on it? I'm worried about whether it'll run smoothly or not. Specifications: IBM ThinkPad T23, 1GHz Pentium 3 w/ 1GB RAM.
[23:28] <Compiling> rethus: replace eth0 with the active interface you're pinging
[23:28] <rethus> i only will see, if my request comes to this VZ-container.
[23:28] <rethus> didn't know which one i need to filter
[23:28] <iceroot> tarandus: i am running ubuntu on 630mhz, 1gb ram, 4gb / (eeepc 701) and its running finde with gnome (also flash is working "ok")
[23:28] <rethus> icmp is ping ?
[23:28] <Compiling> oo a t23
[23:28] <Loshki> cwraig: there is a StrictHostKeyChecking option in /etc/ssh/ssh_config you can play with to disable the check I think...
[23:29] <Compiling> rethus: yes icmp protocol is ping
[23:29] <Compiling> rethus: well it will show ping packets
[23:29] <Compiling> I dug up this old t61 the other day
[23:29] <tarandus> iceroot: Thanks! Eeepc, nice. I'm gonna try out Linux to throw on a daily beater
[23:29] <Compiling> loaded it up with 4G DDR2 and it flies
[23:29] <Pirate_Hunter> SomehelpPlz, it will if you do it like I typed i.e. du ~/ but it should be enough to identify which directory is taking too much space
[23:30] <Pirate_Hunter> SomehelpPlz, use disk analyser it is simpler
[23:30] <cwraig> Loshki, thanks ill check it out
[23:30] <iceroot> tarandus: maybe have a look at lubuntu (or lubuntu-desktop if there is no lubuntu-distri)
[23:30] <Loshki> rethus: strictly speaking, a single ping is an icmp echo request packet from client to server followed by a corresponding icmp echo reply packet from server to client...
[23:30] <Pirate_Hunter> SomehelpPlz, sorry never mind my irc hadn't scrolled down :s
[23:30] <rethus> works well with "tcpdump icmp"
[23:30] <Valkyrie> http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8619/2204355.swf
[23:30] <Valkyrie> ROFL
[23:30] <ikonia> Valkyrie: why did you just post that
[23:31] <Pirate_Hunter> khelvan, hmmm you sure?
[23:31] <Valkyrie> Go to it.
[23:31] <Valkyrie> You must
[23:31] <rethus> and the ping comes to my VZ-Container. thats good (for the first step
[23:31] <ikonia> Valkyrie: why did you post that
[23:31] <pme> iceroot: do you have experience with lubuntu?
[23:31] <ikonia> !danger
[23:31] <ikonia> do not go to that website
[23:31] <Pirate_Hunter> khelvan, check that folder out and see what it has
[23:31] <Valkyrie> Dude. It's funny.
[23:31] <Valkyrie> It made me lol like crazy.
[23:31] <h00k> !guidelines > Valkyrie
[23:31] <iceroot> pme: just in a vm with lots of ressources but its looking good
[23:31] <rethus> but if i try my new ip, no icmp request comes anymore to my vz :(
[23:31] <khelvan> Pirate_Hunter: It appears that trash:.T27MFV is up to 10GB and growing
[23:32] <pme> iceroot: i think i will try it
[23:32] <iceroot> pme: its worth a try :)
[23:33] <Compiling> rethus: what new IP are you setting?
[23:33] <Compiling> rethus: and how are you setting it?
[23:33] <khelvan> Pirate_Hunter: -rw-------  1 brian brian 10595057664 2010-07-04 15:33 trash:.T27MFV
[23:33] <Pirate_Hunter> khelvan, if it is trash and you dont need the items their just delete it
[23:33] <NFischer> Hi all! how do i activate my ssh server before logging in (so that i can login remotely first)
[23:33] <tarandus> When installing Ubuntu, does it format the hard drive that it's being installed on?
[23:34] <NFischer> Hi all! how do i activate my ssh server before logging in (so that i can login remotely first) ?
[23:34] <Compiling> khelvan: empty the trash bin
[23:34] <Loshki> khelvan: is this the result of you trying to delete something?
[23:34] <iceroot> tarandus: yes
[23:34] <s3r3n1t7> NFischer, if you've installed openssh-server it boots up by default before login.
[23:34] <pme> tarandus: depends on whay you tell it to do
[23:34] <Compiling> tarandus: you can choose how it will install to the hard drive
[23:34] <iceroot> tarandus: the partitions which are used/created
[23:34] <pme> tarandus: you can operate windows and ubuntu on the same hard drive, if thats what your asking
[23:35] <Compiling> tarandus: if you have an existing OS installation chances are it will be picked up and you can partition accordingly
[23:35] <blazento> hello i am trying to configure php from source files. After running configure --with-apxs2, i run make, and make install, but apache still prompts me to download the php file, is there something  else i need to do
[23:35] <NFischer> s3r3n1t7, it does not, it says host is down... after logging in however i can ssh the machine
[23:35] <Loshki> tarandus: normally, it does format the disk by default. You can choose not to, but if there's something on the disk you need, it's best to have a backup of it before you start...
[23:35] <khelvan> Compiling, Loshki, I'm not sure what caused it. There was nothing in the Trash bin. Only after I deleted that file could I empty the bin.
[23:35] <Compiling> blazento: did you set the mime type for php?
[23:35] <iceroot> blazento: enable php in the apache.conf
[23:35] <s3r3n1t7> NFischer, are you ssh'ing to the machine via hostname or ip?
[23:35] <blazento> ok
[23:35] <NFischer> s3r3n1t7, ip
[23:35] <Compiling> blazento: also are you running fastcgi?
[23:36] <blazento> im not sure, dont think so
[23:36] <tarandus> Thanks for all the replies- It's being backed up now and I'm making the machine stay dedicated to Ubuntu without any other OS on it.
[23:36] <khelvan> Pirate_Hunter, Compiling, Loshki - after deleting that file and emptying my trash, it appears to be gone from the directory and the trash bin, but my /home is now at 0% free
[23:36] <Compiling> blazento: see http://dan.drydog.com/apache2php.html
[23:36] <s3r3n1t7> NFischer, i think the issue is not that the ssh server is down (you would get a connection rejected error), but that the networking isn't up untill after login. I have barely any knowledge of networking settings, so you can best ask the channel with a question why the networking doesn't start up before logon.
[23:36] <pme> tarandus: i have xp on my hard drive for the worst case that i need to do something that only windows can
[23:37] <Pirate_Hunter> khelvan, isn't that the point everything you delete goes to trash and that builds up
[23:37] <NFischer> s3r3n1t7, makes sense, thx
[23:37] <JacobSingh> Weird problem - I just downloaded / burned 10.04.  The disc works in 2 other computers but not the one I'm trying to install it on (isn't recognized).  CD drive is fine, my 9.04 disc works in that machine
[23:38] <NFischer> hey all, why is networking not present before log in?
[23:38] <cherva> What part of ubuntu is responsible for the laptops Fn+F1-12 shortcuts ?
[23:38] <Pirate_Hunter> khelvan, type in terminal du -sh ~/ to get a summary of the full size of your home
[23:38] <tarandus> pme: Good idea. I run Win7 on my PC, just testing Ubuntu on the laptop to see how it'll fare with schoolwork
[23:38] <Loshki> khelvan: my understanding is that normally, stuff you delete via nautilus gets moved to the trash directory in case you change your mind about it later. But you would probably know if you'd deleted a 10GB file. Compiling normally won't produce such big files. Maybe a nautilus bug? Re-run the diskpace monitor and see if you can see where all the space has gone...
[23:38] <khelvan> Pirate_Hunter: But there is nothing in the trash bin. I deleted the file, emptied the trash bin, and the file is no longer in that directory, but df tells me I'm at 100% usage on the partition, even though I can't find the file anymore.
[23:38] <Pirate_Hunter> khelvan, can you paste your df output in pastebin please
[23:39] <Compiling> JacobSingh: try booting with acpi off
[23:39] <JacobSingh> Compiling: interesting, I will.
[23:39] <Pirate_Hunter> khelvan, can you try that du command as well please
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> khelvan: use: cd /; sudo find -name "filename"
[23:39] <Compiling> JacobSingh: some drive models are finnicky with bootable discs, acpi helps sometimes
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> khelvan: e.g.   cd /; sudo find -name "firmware.bin"
[23:40] <khelvan> du helped me find the issue with the trash file - now it is gone
[23:40] <khelvan> Ok, I'll find it
[23:40] <tarandus> Will Ubuntu get in the way of installing drivers? I'm asking in regard to still being able to use my Fn keys after installing.
[23:40] <s414414> i...
[23:40] <s414414> 0.0
[23:40] <khelvan> pirat
[23:40] <khelvan> Pirate_Hunter: http://pastebin.com/6J39ZfUm
[23:40] <JacobSingh> Compiling: on another note, if it doesn't work, will 9.10 upgrade to 10.04 bemore or less the same?
[23:40] <SomehelpPlz> Does WINE allow me to install any windows program?
[23:40] <Compiling> JacobSingh: yes
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> SomehelpPlz: some
[23:41] <Kapli> Fresh install of ubuntu 10.04, fresh install of Google Chrome, flash shows video but no sound on youtube, any suggestions?
[23:41] <slidinghorn> SomehelpPlz, some...you can visit the appdb @ winehq.org for specific information
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> SomehelpPlz: some will run beautifully, some will not even install
[23:41] <Compiling> JacobSingh: you will not notice the graphic change, but the core applications will be upgraded
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | SomehelpPlz
[23:41] <Compiling> JacobSingh: I believe it installs the theme as well you just need to change it (can someone clarify?) if not it is downloadable
[23:41] <SteamInc> can somebody tell me how to find out weat driver si musing
[23:41] <SteamInc> how do i know what drivers im using
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> SteamInc: for what hardware?
[23:41] <Loshki> SomehelpPlz: not really. Some windows apps run really well in wine, some not so well, and some won't even install correctly. See the messages above to find out about a particular app...
[23:42] <SteamInc> graphics card
[23:42] <cherva> SomehelpPlz, WINE has its own support channel #winehq and an Application Database on their site ( http://appdb.winehq.org/ ) where you can see how well an app works
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> SteamInc: sudo lshw -C video
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> SteamInc: should tell you
[23:42] <Pirate_Hunter> khelvan, Iand your certain that you removed and emptied trash? check with disk analyser again otherwise give me a sec going to look for a command
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> SteamInc: or even cleverer: sudo lshw -C video | grep -i driver
[23:43] <JacobSingh> Compiling: no ACPI setting (at leas explicitly in thinkpad BIOS... oh well thanks for trying
[23:43] <lee_> get the best from wine with play on linux :: http://www.playonlinux.com/en/download.html
[23:43] <JacobSingh> Possible to boot off of 9.10 and then swap the disk after hitting the install option :P
[23:43] <JacobSingh> ?
[23:43] <Compiling> JacobSingh: It should be in the Ubuntu install screen
[23:44] <Compiling> not BIOS
[23:44] <SteamInc> k
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> JacobSingh: i wouldnt, you will damage the hardware
[23:44] <SteamInc> later
[23:44] <hiexpo> IdleOne,  - happy forth of July mate
[23:44] <JacobSingh> Compiling: The disk is't recognized, that's the problem
[23:44] <KnifeySpooney> Can anyone help me switch the cursor theme? Mine won't change.
[23:44] <Compiling> ah
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> Compiling: i'd return the drive under warranty and grab something else
[23:44] <JacobSingh> it is recognized by other machines though... and this machine recognizes the 9.10 disk that's what's weird
[23:45] <pme> hiexpo: where i live it's the fifth of july
[23:45] <Compiling> im not having a problem with my drive O_o
[23:45] <sebsebseb> pme: It nearly is the 5th for me.
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> Compiling: got the latest bios?
[23:45] <hiexpo> pme,  - aus
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> same here, quarter to 5th july
[23:45] <Compiling> ActionParsnip: im not having problems with anything what are you talking about
[23:45] <JacobSingh> ActionParsnip: yeah, I think so... I mean I've never seen anything like this before...
[23:46] <JacobSingh> It's a thinkpad t60p, been running Suse and Ubuntu for 3-4 years... bizarre really
[23:46] <Pirate_Hunter> khelvan, other than that I can suggest ncdu which is similar to disk analyser but for terminal it lists all your folder and its file size
[23:46] <Compiling> Kapli: try killing npviewer.bin
[23:46] <JacobSingh> burned the disk 3 times to make sure I wasn't crazy... I ugess I gotta install 9.10 and then upgrade or find a USB drive somewhere
[23:46] <gonzaloaf> j #windows
[23:46] <Compiling> Kapli: if youre running ubuntu x64
[23:46] <Pirate_Hunter> khelvan, tell how it goes im still here
[23:47] <JacobSingh> Would prefer the fresh install though... can't really trust an upgrade the same way
[23:47] <gonzaloaf> j #windows
[23:47] <khelvan> Pirate_Hunter: I've been using shift-delete to delete things "permanently," might that be a problem?
[23:48] <Compiling> gonzaloaf: /j #windows
[23:48] <ridin> gonz-
[23:48] <ridin> .
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> JacobSingh: did you md5 test the iso you downloaded too?
[23:48] <lee_> is there any way of saving the channel i have on xchat??
[23:48] <Compiling> lee_ depends on irc client
[23:48] <ridin> lee_: explain further?
[23:48] <administrador_> Can Somebody speak Spanish and help me?
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> Compiling: xchat is the client ;)
[23:48] <lee_> A multiplatform IRC Client
[23:48] <lee_> Linux 2.6.32-23-generic [i686/2.40GHz/SMP]
[23:48] <lee_> Charset: UTF-8 Renderer: Pango
[23:48] <lee_> Compiled: Apr 24 2010
[23:48] <FloodBot1> lee_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:48] <lee_> omg
[23:48] <Loshki> JacobSingh: you might be able to do a cd-less install: See the 'frugal install' option at http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> !es | administrador_
[23:48] <lee_> ill flood u
[23:48] <Compiling> whoops didnt read it all lol
[23:49] <sebsebseb> JacobSingh: By the way 9.10 is :)  better than 10.04 in certain ways as well, depending on the user and their hardware
[23:49] <Pirate_Hunter> khelvan, wouldnt know I delete stuff from terminal using rm -rf which is not advised if I need to keep something I move it manually to local/trash, i am checking links that may help you out
[23:49] <sebsebseb> JacobSingh: also yeah installing 9.10 and then upgrading to 10.04 that will probably work
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> Pirate_Hunter: -f isnt always needed (infact its rarely needed)
[23:50] <pme> offtopic: what do you guys think about meego (meego.com)
[23:50] <sebsebseb> !ot | pme
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> !ot | pme
[23:50] <Compiling> lee_: right click the channel and add it to favourites?
[23:50] <pme> sebsebseb: yes i got it
[23:50] <lee_> yea,, but aren't there when i log in
[23:51] <Pirate_Hunter> ActionParsnip, true but It may be useful just not sure when still it beats rmdir
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> Pirate_Hunter: if the folder is in the users home rm -r  is quite adequate
[23:51] <ridin> lee_: XChat -> (server with the channel) and then auto connect on start up
[23:51] <Kapli> Compiling: how do i kill it ? im running the normal version of ubuntu
[23:52] <Pirate_Hunter> khelvan, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/hard-disk-usage-and-availability-report-tools.html one of these tools might help you locate your problem howveer I dont see the need for you to install them knowing you have du and disk analyser, still I do hope it helps
[23:52] <Compiling> Kapli: try ps auxww | grep npviewer
[23:52] <Compiling> Kapli: if it returns anything kill it's PID (leftmost number)
[23:53] <Pirate_Hunter> ActionParsnip, yes it is I just do it out of habit also you never know when you need to force remove
[23:53] <Loshki> Pirate_Hunter: it's probably a bad habit, but I do it too....
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> Pirate_Hunter: you wont need it in $HOME, its a pretty bad habit
[23:54] <khelvan> Pirate_Hunter: I deleted the file, its space is still being reported by df, so I'm going to reboot just to see if that helps...be back in a few
[23:54] <Kapli> Compiling: kim       6295  0.0  0.0   3324   800 pts/0    S+   00:53   0:00 grep --color=auto npviewer
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> i used to add -y to all apt-get commands (also a bad abit)
[23:54] <Kapli> Compiling: which number is the PID?
[23:54] <Pirate_Hunter> khelvan, I'll be here when you come back
[23:54] <Compiling> Kapli: that means its not running
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> Kapli: 6295
[23:54] <Compiling> Kapli: it returned your grep pid
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> oh yeah, derrrr
[23:54] <Compiling> Kapli: to avoid that you can use a grep -v grep
[23:55] <Pirate_Hunter> Loshki, ActionParsnip, yeah it is a bad habbit and yeah I wont need it in ~/
[23:55] <Kapli> so its not running
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> Kapli: no, but the leftmost value is the pid
[23:57] <Kapli> ah ok
[23:58] <Kapli> well i still dont have any sound in flash =/
[23:58] <khelvan> Pirate_Hunter: Ok, the reboot cleared things up, for some reason - now df shows 66% usage on /home