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coz_hey guys ... noticed in firefox on maverick that bookmarks scroll is "extremely" slow moving at one line per second00:05
coz_any fix for this ??00:05
coz_also... lucid really sucked in my opinion because of a few major bugs... 1 external driver with  ntfs..or..fat 32.. or ext4  multiple partitions ..when highlighting the drive icons on the desktop and right click there is no unmount or safely remove drive options... single parition unmount exists but gives errors and the drive wont mount... 2  wallpaper  option dont work....3..cannot install official nvidia drivers.... please can you guys be sure t00:11
coz_his doesnt happen in maverick?  right now I have to go back to karmic for things to work properly  ... I am on maverick at this moment00:11
coz_but I am reinstalling karmic because of the above bugs00:11
coz_I also noticed that the mouse cursor jumps about the screen on occasion esecially when using easystroke... I hope this doesn have anything to do with touchscreen implimentation00:12
coz_by the way the wallpaper options not working are only on dual monitors00:13
coz_at this point I have no c hoice but to go back to karmic00:13
billybigriggerhowdy00:22
DanaGargh, he left... I was going to ask if that lack of "safely remove" was on an eSATA port.00:30
cozziemotoDanaG,  no I didnt leave  just on another machine00:31
cozziemotoDanaG, and no its a usb port00:31
cozziemotoDanaG,  and consistent with both lucid and maverick  ,,, actually all that I mentioned is consistent with both on any machine I install them on  even this one however the wallapaper issue does not really exist on this machine because it is single monitor00:36
DanaGMy problem with the new auto-mounting: you can't share an external drive with Samba, because it's hardcoded to 700 permissions!00:37
cozziemotoDanaG,  oh geez!   well I  am reinstalling karmic on the main system... and the biggest issue isnt these bugs but that i cant suggest upgrading to any of my clients  running ubuntu because of them00:38
Jordan_Ucozziemoto: Have you filed apropriate bug reports, or marked already made ones as affecting you?00:38
cozziemotoJordan_U,  I have indeed00:38
cozziemotoJordan_U, both for lucid and maverick although the same issues are on both versions00:38
DanaGhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/gvfs/+bug/45360500:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 453605 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "Make default mount umasks configurable" [Wishlist,Triaged]00:39
DanaGOh yeah, and another reason buttons on the RIGHT is better than buttons on the LEFT:00:40
DanaGWith buttons on the right, you can do this: http://gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/124622-1.png00:40
DanaGHandy even on my 1920x1200 full-size system -- that's not just for netbooks.00:40
DanaGCan't do that with the buttons on the left.00:41
cozziemotoDanaG,  I agree ...the "mac" left buttons hopefully is a shuttleworth "phase" he is going throuugh :)00:43
cozziemotoDanaG,  the real question is why wasnt there a tick box to have buttons on left or right or even centered  ...choices are the key :)00:44
DrHalanDanaG: isn't that exaclty what they want to do?00:44
DanaGhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=152363500:46
DrHalanyeah thats what i eman00:48
DrHalannot sure what to think of it though00:48
DrHalani dont really get why ubuntu is adding such things instead of improving empathy for example or improving suspend/resume...00:49
cozziemotoDanaG,  in my opinion...what can be done on the right can be done on the left00:49
DrHalanfeels like shuttleworth has the need to be different00:49
DaekdroomGood lord.00:51
DaekdroomThe new sound applet and the windicator sketch O.o00:51
DaekdroomAre windicators going to be part of Maverick?00:51
DrHalanyeah00:51
DrHalancheck out indicator-appmenu00:52
DrHalanthat should be "windicators" no app i know is using it though..00:52
DaekdroomI always liked GNOME over KDE because it felt less cluttered... :S00:53
DrHalanHEHE00:53
DrHalanwell i wouldnt mind if they put the menu ("edit" etc) in the top right00:54
DrHalanbut appindicators.. i dont know..00:54
DrHalanmaybe they end up just being that. a menu moved up to save space00:54
DrHalanthat would be awesome..00:54
DaekdroomJust like Chrome and Firefox 4?00:54
DrHalanyeah00:54
DrHalani think somebody in the gtk community is also working on chrome-style tab support00:55
DrHalanbut for any app. don't know if taht will ever be finished though00:55
cozziemotomidori   is fine00:56
DrHalanmy i think the best browser is chromium by far. i hope that epiphany gets more stable an eventually replaces firefox in buntu00:57
DrHalanit is much faster because its based on webkit and is not using all that xul stuff and also is written in native gkt00:57
DrHalangtk*00:57
cozziemotoDrHalan,   so is midori based on webkit01:01
cozziemotoas is safari on mac01:01
DrHalanis midori written in gtk?01:03
DaekdroomCall me oldschool, but I still use Firefox :P01:05
DanaGcozziemoto: try the window-buttons panel-applet on the left... bet it won't feel as nice as on the right.01:05
DrHalanhehe01:05
DanaGoh, and I can't use rhythmbox, because it won't do play-by-folders.01:05
DrHalanwell i am really llooking forward to webkit201:05
DanaGI want play-by-folders.01:05
DanaGSo I'm stuck with quodlibet -- and when combined with notify-osd, it can leave notifications over 30 seconds out of date.01:06
cozziemotoDanaG,   nah  I am right handed  I do   not  want button on the left :)01:11
DanaGAnd where'd the dang "menu" button go?01:12
DanaGNot that it's all that important.01:12
DanaGIt just looks odd without it.01:12
DaekdroomI'm left handed and I don't give a damn about where the icons are o.o01:13
DanaGAnyway, the window-buttons thing on the left would mean you couldn't just click the top-left corner of the screen and get the menu.01:14
DanaGInstead, the top-let corner would be "close".01:14
cozziemotowell my big concern beyond appearnce is  of course these 4 major bugs   but i agree with the appearance issues01:14
bjsniderDanaG, play by folders?01:39
DaekdroomGood lord. Disk I/O won't cease since I updated :S01:50
DanaGbjsnider: yeah, most apps play by tags.01:54
DanaGI do think that "buttons in the panel" thing is a much better idea than that winclutterifiers.01:54
DanaGI mean, in that concept, how the heck do you un-maximize a window?01:55
DanaGThe only answer I see there is "you don't".01:55
DanaG(Either that, or they merely forgot to add the buttons somewhere.)01:57
DaekdroomDanaG, the buttons aren't there if the window is not maximized.01:57
DanaGYeah, but the concept for maximized windicators didn't show any buttons, either.01:58
DanaGhttp://www.markshuttleworth.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/unity-netbook-maximised.png01:58
bjsniderDanaG, but why not play from the tag? what's so special about playing from the folder?03:00
DanaGWell, it lets me deal with the cases where things are tagged inconsistently.  It also lets me have a folder like this: Noir OSTs { Noir Blanc {CD 1, CD 2}, OST 1, OST 2}03:01
DanaGNested folders.03:01
DanaGCan't do that with tags.03:01
bjsnideryes you can, sir03:02
bjsniderif it's the same record banshee will open both cds and play them in order03:03
bjsniderif they're tagged inconsistently use easytag to fix the tags03:03
bjsniderthe tags can obviously contain far more info than the file names/folder structure, so that's why they're preferred03:04
DanaGI mean, sometimes I don't always feel like playing all parts of the collection.03:05
bjsnideryeah but if you're telling it to play everything in a folder then you'd still have the problem of playing everything in the collection03:09
DanaGeh, good point there.03:59
DanaGActually, that searching seems to work fine.04:00
DanaGargh, stupid musicbrainz.org...04:05
DanaGdoesn't show albumIDs!04:05
DanaGOr rather, clicking the album's title doesn't show it.04:06
DanaGYou have to then go to "details".04:06
DanaGnope, not correct.... the musicbrainz plugin doesn't like it.  that's the quodlibet plugin.04:07
philsfwill indicator-datetime be the default clock in maverick?04:09
DanaGNow, how do I get rhythmbox to TOGGLE the main window upon pressing my xf86media key?04:53
DanaGAnd if I remove the indicator applet, why the hell doesn't the notification-area icon come back?04:59
DanaGhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/57312505:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 573125 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "Status Icon Plugin Hides Rhythmbox If indicator-applet Is Removed from Panel" [Low,New]05:01
DanaGOkay, here's something I can't figure out how to do with tag-based playback:05:03
DanaGSome anime series with a single, where the album title does NOT contain the series name.... how do I group that with the other things from the same series?05:03
DanaGer, I guess all of that is off-topic for here, though. =þ05:10
DanaGhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/25316705:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 253167 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "Rhythmnbox sort by "Album Artist" for guest/compilations" [Wishlist,Confirmed]05:10
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cjohnstonafter doing apt-get dist-upgrade yesterday, every time I login to ubuntu I click my user, enter my password and hit enter. After hitting enter the screen goes blank and then comes back with a login screen... Any idea whats going on? I initially did not have to login each time my system boots14:29
Ian_cornewonder if shotwell will support movie importing from a camera15:02
mrsuncjohnston, checked so a window manager is selected?15:34
DaekdroomMaverick needs so much more RAM :(16:19
DaekdroomShould I assume that's due to debugging symbols?16:20
Ian_cornetrying out unity now16:27
Ian_corneIt feels slow on my netbook16:27
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BluesKajI didn't realize ubuntu has decided to make double clicking the default on maverick , it's the first time I've run gnome in a few yrs , so I was a bit surprised that there seems to be no single click option, which I prefer.17:48
NickSpamBluesKaj: double clicking has been default in gnome for at least 5 years17:55
NickSpamon ubuntu17:55
NickSpamnot sure about gnome proper17:55
h00kyes17:55
BluesKajNickSpam, yeah guess that's the last time I used gnome , use kde mostly.17:56
DaekdroomBluesKaj, is it default on KDE?17:56
NickSpamBluesKaj: personally single clicking is ucky to me :)17:56
NickSpamyucky*17:56
BluesKajNickSpam, I didn't ask for your opinion :)17:57
NickSpamBluesKaj: I offered it anyway. I didn't say you had to agree :)17:57
BluesKajDaekdroom, single click is , yes17:57
NickSpamBluesKaj: but single click does make more sense. I mean you don't hit the power button on your tv twice to get it started17:58
BluesKajI even change to single click on windows17:58
DaekdroomNickSpam, but you don't have to select the power button on your TV17:58
DaekdroomIt doesn't have a menu >.>17:58
DaekdroomYou don't group it with other buttons to delete.17:58
DaekdroomxD17:58
NickSpamDaekdroom: your missing my analogy :/17:59
DaekdroomNickSpam, you're missing my point17:59
NickSpamI am hehe17:59
BluesKajI'm giving gnome 2.3 try and it seems less cartooney to me than previous versions :)18:00
Daekdroom2.3? O.O18:00
DaekdroomThat's ooold18:00
NickSpamAnyway what is awesome about linux is the choice and BluesKaj is saying that they don't find the option to switch to single click in gnome18:00
DaekdroomThere's a option that lets you hold single click to simulate double click18:00
BluesKajDaekdroom, odd , I thought it was default in mav erick18:00
DaekdroomBluesKaj, there's a huge difference between 2.30 and 2.3. Trust me.18:01
BluesKajDaekdroom, uhmm, i assumed 2.3 was 2.3018:01
BluesKajlet me rephrase that, rather I assumed that gdm 2.30 is the default on maverick , is this correct ?18:06
Daekdroom!info gdm18:13
ubottugdm (source: gdm): GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.30.2-0ubuntu5 (maverick), package size 719 kB, installed size 7604 kB18:13
DaekdroomBluesKaj, yes, it is correct.18:13
Daekdroom2.30.2 as a matter of fact.18:13
BluesKajright18:14
airgracehi, can someone recommend some good media players :), mainly for music.18:16
Daekdroomairgrace, exaile and rhythmbox for GNOME, Amarok for KDE18:16
BluesKajit's more to my taste than previuos versions , Daekdroom . Installed maverick on my desktop pc , but lucid server is on our tv room pc and I like the faster copy speeds between the 2 ubuntu machines ...kde lucis was much slower , but dunno why.18:17
BluesKajerr lucid18:17
DaekdroomHm.. well, I don't think there's difference in copy speeds between GNOME and KDE..18:18
DaekdroomUnless it uses GVFS18:18
BluesKajnope ext418:19
DaekdroomGVFS is Gnome Virtual File System18:19
DaekdroomNautilus and other GNOME stuff uses it as a layer..18:19
DaekdroomBut could also be the move from lucid to maverick..18:20
BluesKajmaybe my router likes that GVFS better :)18:20
BluesKajDaekdroom, on smb or ?18:22
DaekdroomNot sure.18:22
BluesKajusing both ssh and smb/gui to access the ubuntu boxes . <Wifer's18:23
BluesKajoops18:23
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cjohnstonmrsun: sorry... gnome is selected for sessions18:25
BluesKajwife's vista pc sees the ubuntu server but like most windows machines it's a pita to setup 2 way access...accessing from the (k)ubuntu boxes isn't a prob tho .18:25
raymondjtoth2hi im geting this err err E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) how i fix it18:49
raymondjtoth2ny one18:49
raymondjtoth2any know how to fix it18:49
raymondjtoth2no one here18:50
raymondjtoth2:(18:50
om26erraymondjtoth2, try sudo apt-get -f install ..at your own risk... also disable all ppas first.18:51
raymondjtoth2same err18:51
raymondjtoth2om26er,  get same err18:51
raymondjtoth2i get this err still  Starting domain name service... bind9                                 [fail]18:54
raymondjtoth2invoke-rc.d: initscript bind9, action "start" failed.18:54
raymondjtoth2dpkg: error processing bind9 (--configure):18:54
raymondjtoth2 subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 118:54
raymondjtoth2Errors were encountered while processing:18:54
raymondjtoth2 bind918:54
raymondjtoth2E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)18:54
raymondjtoth2how i fix it18:54
raymondjtoth2i dont got any ppas on18:54
raymondjtoth2what i do any support on 10.1018:54
raymondjtoth2getting this err E: bind9: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 when installing bind9 what i do thanks18:58
raymondjtoth2any one?19:01
raymondjtoth2dead room19:01
raymondjtoth2getting err : error processing bind9 (--configure):19:04
raymondjtoth2 subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 119:05
raymondjtoth2Errors were encountered while processing:19:05
raymondjtoth2 bind919:05
raymondjtoth2 how i fix it19:05
raymondjtoth2i tryed install-f19:05
raymondjtoth2any idea19:05
raymondjtoth2 getting err : error processing bind9 (--configure):19:11
raymondjtoth2<raymondjtoth2>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 119:11
raymondjtoth2<raymondjtoth2> Errors were encountered while processing:19:11
raymondjtoth2<raymondjtoth2>  bind919:11
raymondjtoth2<raymondjtoth2>  how i fix it\19:11
Daekdroom!repeat | raymondjtoth219:12
ubotturaymondjtoth2: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org while you wait.19:12
raymondjtoth2o ok19:12
raymondjtoth2Daekdroom,  any help for my q19:12
Daekdroomraymondjtoth2, apparently, bind9 package is currently defective.19:13
DaekdroomYou could try uninstalling it19:13
raymondjtoth2dae what i use them19:13
raymondjtoth2how i uninstall it19:13
Daekdroomsudo apt-get purge bind919:13
raymondjtoth2Daekdroom,  that did it19:16
raymondjtoth2Daekdroom,  ty19:17
BluesKajraymondjtoth2, sudo fuser -vki -TERM /var/lib/dpkg/lock, then , sudo dpkg --configure -a, finally do, sudo dpkg --clear-avail19:17
raymondjtoth2blue what that do19:18
BluesKajok, purge did the trick , the sledgehammer approach i guggested id probly a bit much anyway19:18
raymondjtoth2i did that any how what that command do19:18
BluesKajit unlocks any broken packages and dependencies19:19
BluesKajand clears them19:21
raymondjtoth2ty19:25
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damousyshey hello20:37
damousysdoes anyone knows how to get the Hyper-V nics working @ ubuntu 10.10 ?20:37
damousysanyone here?20:44
yofelsure, but nobody with a hyper-v nic I guess20:47
BUGabundonot here20:47
damousysdamm! i hoped anyone had tried it here20:48
damousysto bad20:48
BUGabundobugs in avidemux, are local or some kind of active upstream?21:09
knittlhi. i'm having several issues21:23
knittlinsane IOWait load after booting, nautilus seems to hang21:23
knittlresume after suspend not working with nouveau (even after blacklisting vga16fb)21:24
knittlspikes in cpu usage every second21:24
Daekdroomknittl, same spikes in CPU and not sure about IOWait, but the system doesn't feel responsive at all.21:29
knittlDaekdroom: yeah, it's also very laggy here21:30
DaekdroomSpikes in HD I/O and unusually high RAM usage21:30
knittlram is average21:30
knittl35 % in use21:30
DaekdroomConsidering what I have open, I'd expect about 500MB21:30
DaekdroomNot 850MB + 300MB SWAP :S21:30
knittlswap: 021:31
knittlmem - buffers/cache: 130221:31
knittlwell, it's a little high21:31
knittlbut acceptable (pidgin, firefox, transmission, rhythmbox, few terminals)21:32
BUGabundoDaekdroom: same here21:35
BUGabundosince last week21:35
BUGabundosystem is very unresponsive21:35
BUGabundoX is using around 40% cpu21:36
knittlBUGabundo: yep21:36
BUGabundoI use NX a lot21:36
BUGabundoand had to stop last Friday21:36
knittlwhat's nx?21:36
BUGabundolag was impossible21:36
knittlnetwork X?21:36
BUGabundo!freenx21:36
ubottuFreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX21:36
BUGabundoso this seems to be afecting more ppl21:37
BUGabundoits not just my imagination21:37
BUGabundoor network probs21:37
BUGabundoor high temperature21:37
knittlno, it's also for a week now21:37
BUGabundo(it was ~40ºC today)21:37
knittlmaybe a bit longer21:37
BUGabundonot here... I notice last week21:37
BUGabundothe end of last week21:37
BUGabundo I even asked in here if there had been any major change to X21:38
knittlBUGabundo: also high iowait?21:39
BUGabundohow can I check?21:40
knittli only have it after booting + logging in21:40
knittlin top it's the 5th value in the Cpu(s) line21:40
knittl80.1%wa21:41
knittlalso system monitor in gnome panel displays iowait21:41
BUGabundocpu | sys     10% | user     29% | irq       0% | idle     61% | cpu001 w  0% |21:41
BUGabundocpu | sys      5% | user     31% | irq       0% | idle     63% | cpu000 w  1% |21:41
BUGabundoCPL | avg1   0.52 | avg5    0.51 | avg15   0.49 | csw    23131 | intr    8742 |21:41
BUGabundoMEM | tot    3.9G | free  108.5M | cache   1.5G | buff   70.4M | slab  124.4M |21:41
BUGabundoSWP | tot    4.7G | free    4.7G |              | vmcom   3.3G | vmlim   6.6G |21:41
BUGabundoDSK |         sda | busy      1% | read       3 | write      9 | avio    2 ms |21:41
BUGabundoNET | transport   | tcpi     851 | tcpo     844 | udpi      15 | udpo      15 |21:41
Daekdroom219MB RAM post-boot21:41
DaekdroomBUGabundo, what command is that? o.o21:42
knittlDaekdroom: that's a lot xD21:42
BUGabundoatop21:42
knittlBUGabundo: looks like it's the last column in your output21:42
knittlbut here iowait is normal after some minutes21:42
DaekdroomAfter opening the standard set of background apps, it goes up to 324MB, which is still not a lot..21:43
knittlso you'd have to run it immediately after logging in21:43
knittlDaekdroom: oh wops. 219, i read 201921:43
DaekdroomTHAT would be outrageous O.o21:43
knittl:D21:43
BUGabundowell I did notice many changes to themes21:43
BUGabundoand even mouse actions21:43
BUGabundolike pidgin, where clicking a tab would jump to text box21:44
DaekdroomWhy does it say idle 183%? O.o21:44
BUGabundonow just selects the tab21:44
BUGabundochromium is missing some clicks too21:44
BUGabundoDaekdroom: multi core21:44
DaekdroomOh. It sums up both CPU's %s..21:44
BUGabundoeach is 100%21:44
DaekdroomRAM usage already at 380MB..21:45
BUGabundothat's low21:46
BUGabundoI have much much more21:46
DaekdroomI have Xchat, atop on gnome-terminal, transmission, liferea, emesene and rhythmbox open.21:46
BUGabundo 9550     16      0         52K 745.9M 198.5M     0K   264K   5% firefox-bin21:46
BUGabundo 3614      1      0      42284K 971.8M 182.5M     0K     0K   5% chromium-brows21:46
BUGabundo 3521      8      0       2163K 646.8M 124.7M  -284K -2068K   3% gwibber21:46
BUGabundo 3608      4      0      42284K 886.7M 94952K     0K  -108K   2% chromium-brows21:46
BUGabundo 3266     12      0      42284K 585.8M 84752K     0K     0K   2% chromium-brows21:46
BUGabundo 2307   5901      0        924K 968.5M 84700K -64.0M  -212K   2% pidgin21:46
knittlstop flooding :P21:46
BUGabundosorry21:46
* Daekdroom <3s pastebinit21:46
BUGabundoOTOH21:47
BUGabundoanyone here audio expert?21:47
BUGabundoavidemux is crashing21:47
BUGabundoguess no21:47
knittli'm not21:48
BUGabundoill have to find out another way to do this then21:48
Daekdroomknittl, so, when the wait parameter in atop goes too high, that means the CPU is waiting cycles waiting on info?21:48
Daekdroom*wasting cycles21:49
knittlDaekdroom: from what i understood yes21:49
knittlbut temperature also goes up21:49
knittlso it's burning cycles21:49
DaekdroomLol21:49
knittli'm no expert on cpus21:49
knittlbut it's strange21:49
knittland not expected behavior21:49
wolf4914ghb22:26
SeraphXhi there22:28
SeraphXdoes anyone else experience extremely long delays when using the update manager?22:28
SeraphXand xorg cpu load is at 90%22:28
DrHalani have different logfiles for X which is the current one? xorg.0.log?23:07
Daekdroomgnome shell package is broken...23:08
DrHalanDaekdroom: what happens?23:08
DaekdroomUninstallable dependency.23:09
Daekdroom*Unavaiable23:09
DrHalanwhen you install it?23:09
DaekdroomWhen I try to.23:09
Daekdroomapt won't do it.23:10
DrHalancan you copy the version string of the file?23:13
DrHalan*package23:13
Daekdroompackage string?23:14
DrHalanyou know the version of the package23:17
DrHalanbecause when i install gnome-shell it works really fine but the package is really old (some git release from fall 2009)23:18
DrHalan2.28.1~git20091125-123:20
DaekdroomOh. Same package here.23:23
DrHalanThere seems to be a new pacakge23:24
DrHalanhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/2.31.2-123:24
DrHalanbut its not buildign fine. maybe wait some times until its uploaed properly?23:24
DaekdroomGood lord. Nautilus should get a fix.23:30
DaekdroomBarely usable23:30
DrHalani removed ubuntu-one23:32
DrHalanworks fine now23:32
DrHalanof course if you need it thats not a solution23:32
Daekdroomas a matter of fact, I believe that's the *perfect* solution for me :P23:33
DrHalanlol23:40
DrHalani don't get why they don't fix it though23:43
DrHalanthis stupid bar on the top is sooo annoying23:43

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