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duanedesignhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub200:00
duanedesignthat wiki page was made from drs305s Forum post00:01
duanedesignhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=119527500:01
duanedesignnumber 14^^^ is booting from .iso00:01
phillwhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/drs305/Sandbox#Booting an ISO00:02
phillwhe's not, from what I am aware of, quite ready to release it out into the world, but he does work very quickly on these projects.00:03
phillwduanedesign: oddly enough, there is a request in for the community page to be the wiki page, I see the wiki page now says to use that. It was the difference between the two that 1st got me involved with the doc team :-)00:05
newboon2age_phillw: whew! we'll have to harmonize all our Grub2 wiki pages somehow... :)00:05
phillwnewboon2age_: I have a request in so they all point to one place, that is the only way to keep things up to date.00:05
newboon2age_phillw: one place or alternatively effectively factor the info into different component parts which are each then kept up to date.00:07
phillwthe sandbox page is a work in progress for dave, it is not finished and ready to be used yet.00:07
win_2_linuxi'm trying opensolaris in a vb now00:07
newboon2age_win_2_linux: i've run it a little on vb.  it was pretty cool.00:08
* phillw only has 1GB RAM on my laptop, so VB is not really an option00:08
win_2_linuxnewboon just to see the difference between that and linux00:08
newboon2age_phillw: when i was running Xubuntu i only had 238MB on my laptop.  Boy coulda used Lubuntu then.  Xubuntu didn't quite cut it.00:09
win_2_linuxwhat file system does unix use same as linux or is it slightly different00:09
phillwnewboon2age_: lubuntu is the smallest one of the familly,00:09
newboon2age_win_2_linux: yes.  I didn't think it was quite up to Linux standards in some respects, but in others it was ahead.00:10
phillwunix uses same as linux00:10
newboon2age_phillw: i think zfs.  Which is open source and has some interesting advanced features.00:10
duanedesignhave you all seen WattOS00:11
duanedesignhttp://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=wattos00:11
win_2_linuxno what is wattos00:11
win_2_linuxis it based on ubuntu00:11
duanedesignUbuntu 10.04 and uses OpenBox and LXDE00:12
duanedesigni really like Lubuntu so i have been wanting to try wattOS00:12
newboon2age_I'm googling and it looks like OpenSolaris is supposed to be ZFS on its next release which was supposed to happen in April, but due to some Oracle lack of drive i don't think has happened yet.00:13
km0r3OpenBox and LXDE... I'm having a look at it.00:13
newboon2age_Here's a thing re: zfs: http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+zfs/whatis00:13
phillwduanedesign: I'm sticking with lubuntu :-)00:13
win_2_linuxand I'm sticking ubuntu or at least linux00:14
phillwkm0r3: if you put on lxde you will get some pretty out dated stuff, you can update just lxde components if you add the lubuntu ppa.00:14
duanedesigni hope btrfs will be an option in 10.10 :)00:15
newboon2age_win_2_linux: Oracle hasn't been totally clear on whether their going to push for OpenSolaris.  It might take awhile for the community to rally and overcome Oracle's ambivalence.00:16
km0r3phillw: I was never a fan of LXDE. More of OpenBox, because I'm an Ex-Crunchbang user. But yes, looks like the folks at lxde are quite lazy atm.00:16
win_2_linuxis oracle going to continue opensolaris or is it going to just push solaris00:17
win_2_linuxopen solaris still has a lic agreement00:17
km0r3duanedesign: have you already read benchmarks? Btrfs seems to be not an alternative for normal users atm.00:17
phillwkm0r3: it's not that lxde is lazy, it is that the small team is concentrating on lubuntu, which uses openbox anyway00:17
newboon2age_win_2_linux: no other non-Microsoft, non-Apple distro/OS that i'm aware of has as much support available as Ubuntu, just so you know...00:18
win_2_linuxyeah i c that00:18
duanedesignkm0r3: with the current dailybuild of 10.10 you can install Ubuntu on btrfs but not boot from a btrfs partition. So you have to make an ext3/4 /boot00:19
newboon2age_win_2_linux: Redhat has a lot, but not as friendly from what i've seen and not as much.  Peppermint (Ubuntu, small resource distro) is small but their support company is very good.00:19
km0r3phillw: Ok. I take back what I've said. "Lazy" wasn't the right word to use either.00:22
newboon2age_win_2_linux: its quite unclear what Oracle is up to with OpenSolaris and Solaris , but I think ultimately OpenSolaris will be free to do as they wish.  I don't think Oracle will be able to stop them even if they want to and i doubt they want to.00:22
km0r3duanedesign: so you already tested it? How's it doing?00:22
duanedesignkm0r3: it definetly needs to keep up with the linux filesystems that already perform very well00:23
duanedesignkm0r3: i havent yey. ibuclaw has00:23
duanedesignyet*00:23
duanedesignkm0r3: he seemed to be happy with it.  But you are right it has a little ways to go00:24
km0r3duanedesign: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ext4_btrfs_nilfs2&num=100:24
newboon2age_win_2_linux: Oracle reinstated a 90-day trial clause on Solaris but not OpenSolaris.00:24
km0r3duanedesign: those are benchmarks. At the time of writing it wasn't an alternative. Maybe that changed.00:24
duanedesignkm0r3: i think they still have some work to do. These are a little more recent. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_netbook_fs&num=100:28
km0r3duanedesign: ah, thanks! Yes, they are.00:29
km0r3duanedesign: there's not much to say00:29
zkriessehey duanedesign got a sec?00:31
asterismohi everyone00:47
asterismoi have a question00:47
phillwasterismo: ask away !!00:48
asterismodoes anybody know how to split a large OGG video in 2 smaller videos?00:48
asterismothe thing is that i merged several videoclips from yputube in pitivi and resulted in a 4:20 hr video00:48
duanedesignzkriesse: hello. I am half here :P00:49
duanedesignzkriesse: whats up?00:49
asterismothen i tried to burn that in a home DVD with brasero and it says is too large00:49
asterismoso i want to split for 2 DVD burning00:49
asterismobut i don't know how to split00:50
asterismoand it's hard to google00:50
phillwasterismo: there is avidemux, which is available via ubuntu00:53
phillwbut, tbh, you'd probably be better heading over to http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=33400:53
zkriesseduanedesign: any team happenings that you know of in the past month? I'm making the team report but theres not much that i can remember01:01
asterismoavidemux does not open the OGG video generated in pitivi01:07
asterismothats the problem01:07
asterismomay be a bug?01:07
phillwasterismo: I'm not a vid person, it was why I suggested that you pop onto the forum area, as those people are really up on doing multi media stuff :-)01:09
asterismooh thanks i will check it out01:09
phillwasterismo: yeah, that seems to be the most up to date area, there are discussions on which video editors are the best along with instructions to use them, you could even possibly get some one to help you learn :-)01:16
asterismothanx phillw01:16
duanedesignzkriesse: unfortunately i have nothing i can add01:54
zkriessehey ikonia02:19
zkriessei mean ikt02:19
iktheya zkriesse :)02:25
zkriessehello Ex-Opesa03:53
Ex-OpesaHi :)03:53
zkriesseand how are you?03:55
Ex-OpesaI am fine and you?03:55
zkriesseHAPPY FOURTH!03:56
zkriesseFine i guess03:56
Ex-OpesaIts quite silence here.03:56
Ex-Opesaokay^^03:56
zkriesseyeah most the team is out on holiday03:56
Ex-Opesaahan03:57
Ex-OpesaCan you guide me about one channel?03:57
Ex-OpesaIn freenode its "ubuntu-pk"03:57
Ex-OpesaIt don't got any message, etc. Is that group of Pakistani users of Ubuntu?03:57
zkriessenot sure what it's for03:58
Ex-Opesaokay03:58
Ex-Opesa zkriesse: I don't have any. I just wanted to know if that group is for users of Ubuntu for Pakistan, thats it.04:01
zkriessei'm assuming04:01
Ex-OpesaI will stay in the channel and see if anyone replies04:01
phillwEx-Opesa: the loco team is at http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-pk04:04
Ex-OpesaPhullw: okay, thanks, then this channel is definitely for Pakistani users.04:07
phillwEx-Opesa: the launchpad page is at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-pk that may have more contact details for you.04:09
Ex-Opesa phillw: Yes, I have seen that already, thank you for your guideline. I am actually Pakistani, so thinking to help my fellow users. =)04:10
phillwEx-Opesa: I'm trying to wake some one up in your area, but he's lazy and never replies - :-D04:13
phillwlol04:13
phillw(Oooh, don't repeat that to him, he'd get really annoyed, as he does work hard) :-)04:13
Ex-Opesaah okay. its 8 AM in Pakistan, he is probably at work or sleeping. ^^04:14
Ex-OpesaNo, I won't. I don't really know who is that person even. ^^04:14
duanedesignEx-Opesa: here is a blog by someone in the pakistan area who is active in the Pakistan LoCo.  http://ubuntu.sabza.org/tag/pakistan/04:17
duanedesignmight be some good information on their about what is going on locally in the FOSS community04:17
Ex-OpesaOkay, thank you.04:18
phillwduanedesign: you busy ?04:21
Darkness_DesUgh. Has ANYBODY found a working Mac OSX theme for Avant Window Navigator 0.4?04:52
st33medDarkness_Des, why not use Docky?05:00
st33medIt's better and acts a lot like a Mac OS X doc05:00
Darkness_DesI haven't tried it yet, but I do mainly like the features of AWN.05:01
Darkness_DesI'll give dock a shot though, it's work a try.05:01
st33medIt's really nice :)05:01
st33medNot as customizable, but, it's much more user friendly05:02
Darkness_DesAs long as it works. I'm going for an OS X look with the functionality of Linux.05:02
st33medIt even has intellihide05:02
Darkness_DesErm..... Problem already.05:03
Darkness_Des1: The constant Docky icon on it.05:04
Darkness_Des2: I want it to have the 3D Look.05:04
Darkness_DesLike in this picture05:04
Darkness_Deshttp://mag.typecanvas.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/leopard_screenshot.png05:04
st33medOh you can05:07
st33medclick the anchor logo in the dock05:07
st33medThen click the dock and click '3D background'05:08
st33medDarkness_Des, you there?05:10
Darkness_DesYeah.05:10
Darkness_DesI can't select 3D background.....05:10
st33medDid you get the apt version?05:11
Darkness_DesYes.05:11
st33medNot the most developed one05:11
st33medHang on05:11
Darkness_DesOk.05:12
st33medhttps://launchpad.net/docky/2.0 << Darkness_Des05:13
Darkness_DesThank you!05:13
st33medYou're welcome :D05:13
Darkness_DesAny idea what the build dependencies are?05:13
st33medI think there is a docky repo05:14
Darkness_DesHmm........ Lemme seee.05:15
Darkness_DesAlright, ./configure found the issue.05:15
st33medhttp://ppa.launchpad.net/docky-core/ppa/ubuntu lucid main05:16
st33medThat's the source repo05:16
st33medIt has all the latest bzr things05:16
Darkness_DesWow, thanks.05:17
st33medWait, binary05:17
st33medbinary repo05:17
Darkness_DesErm, is that bad?05:19
st33medWhat do you mean?05:19
st33medBinary is good05:19
Darkness_DesOk. Making sure.05:19
st33medMeans you have it precompiled already05:19
Darkness_DesThought you meant as opposed to a deb repo, where I'd have to place the binaries myself.05:20
st33medIt's a deb05:21
st33meddeb = binary05:21
Darkness_DesAlright, added the repo and installed. It works now.05:21
st33medGood :D05:21
st33med3D and everything?05:21
Darkness_DesAny possible way to kill off the Anchor icon? Or does that always have to be there?05:22
Darkness_Des3D and all.05:22
st33medIt has to be05:22
st33medIt doesn't bother me too much05:22
st33medAt all, actually05:22
Darkness_DesMeh. Whatever works.05:23
Darkness_DesThank you very much!05:23
st33medYou are welcome :)05:23
st33medYou will like docky a lot :D05:23
Darkness_DesIt looks like it. Just need to set it up with all my apps, add a few things, and I'll be done.05:24
st33medAnd you can customize the zoom and size by clicking the anchor icon05:25
st33medAnd how many docks there are05:25
st33medAnd how they hide05:25
Darkness_DesI think this is going to be my favorite dock.....05:25
st33medAnd and andandandandandand05:25
* st33med explodes05:25
Darkness_DesIs there an effect that allows to minimize to about the size of a standard gnome-panel until I hover over it?05:25
st33med:D05:25
Darkness_Des^_^05:26
st33medAh, intellihide05:26
st33medYes, click on the anchor icon05:26
Darkness_DesWhat if I still want it there and visible, just tiny?05:26
st33medHrmm....05:26
st33medI don't knoww05:27
st33medintellihide is the best option right now05:27
Darkness_DesI'll look into it, just having a regular dock wouldn't kill me.05:27
Darkness_DesThis thing is epic.05:27
st33medBasically, it hides when you have an active window over the dock05:27
Darkness_DesThis will work. Thank you!05:28
st33medWelcome :)05:28
st33medI have a unique little setup here... would you like a screenshot?05:29
Darkness_DesSure!05:29
st33medOne sec05:29
zkriessesup peeps05:29
Darkness_DesYo. Wazzap?05:29
zkriessenot much05:30
zkriesseDarkness_Des: help me?05:30
st33medhttp://img810.imageshack.us/i/docky.png/05:30
Darkness_DesSure. Whatcha need>05:31
zkriesseDarkness_Des: I'm a complete newb...what is ubuntu?05:31
Darkness_DesThat's a really good one.05:31
Darkness_DesWait... you're an admin/mod on this channel, and you have no idea?05:31
st33medHehehehe05:31
zkriessedamnit he figured it out too fast05:31
st33medIt was a test05:32
st33med:D05:32
Darkness_DesO.o05:32
zkriessest33med: correct05:32
st33medI remember. I was once a member :D05:32
Darkness_DesI've been here before, the first time was with a hellish BASH script I was working on. Learned a few tricks that night.05:32
zkriessecool05:33
Darkness_DesYep.e05:33
Darkness_DesTypos galore!05:33
st33medDarkness_Des, seriously, what is Ubuntu? I have no idea...05:33
zkriesselol05:33
st33med:)05:33
Darkness_DesHehehehe.05:33
zkriesseok st33med you should know...you're an ubuntu member so....05:33
st33medHehe :D05:33
Darkness_DesI gotta say, I LOVE this dock.05:34
zkriessewhat dock05:34
st33medDocky 2.005:34
* zkriesse likes docks as they mean fish05:34
zkriesseis it in the software center?05:35
st33medNot sure.05:35
Darkness_DesA more updated one from the docky repos, apparently.05:35
st33medIt's in the repos, but the binary is out of date05:35
st33medYes05:35
duanedesigndocky has improved a lot since it seperated from Gnome Do05:36
st33medHey duanedesign!05:36
zkriesseduanedesign: sup my brotha05:36
Darkness_DesI tried Gnome Do. Didn't really agree with me.05:36
Darkness_DesOH! I realized another problem I'm having. This time it's more than vanity though.05:38
Darkness_DesEvery time I boot into Windows 7, I can't reboot and use GRUB. Or Windows 7, for that matter.05:38
Darkness_DesMeh, that can wait. It's not like I use it ever.05:39
duanedesignhttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/grub-wont-boot-windows-7-a-764813/05:42
duanedesignDarkness_Des: one more thread on the matter. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/suse-novell-60/windows-7-wipes-grub-everytime-it-boots-782704/05:43
Darkness_DesAh, that seems more direct.05:44
Darkness_DesThanks!05:44
Darkness_DesWell, I'ma go for now. Thanks for all the help!05:52
zkriessebye Darkness_Des05:52
naduser_hello07:06
ddecatorhey07:06
naduser_how  r u07:06
naduser_need help on ubuntu server07:07
naduser_9.10 and 10.0407:07
Puck`hi naduser_07:08
Puck`just ask your question, someone will evetually help you (: Patience is a virtue07:08
naduser_ok07:08
naduser_i need to know how to configure a squid proxy server07:09
naduser_i want to configure it as a transparent proxy07:09
naduser_and also i want to monitor real time network traffic07:09
naduser_passing the proxy07:09
stlsaintnaduser_: is there a reason you want to use squid?07:10
stlsainthello?07:13
stlsaintnaduser_: poke07:13
stlsaintnaduser_: well for sh...and giggles: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-setup-transparent-proxy-squid-howto.html07:14
stlsaintnaduser_: jsut fyi squid is niffty but uses more resources than it should07:15
naduser_there is no special reason07:16
stlsaintnaduser_: you get that linky up there ^^07:16
naduser_but is there any other proxy software available07:16
naduser_i mean open source07:16
naduser_software07:16
stlsaintnaduser_: heck yea07:16
stlsaintwell heck check the repos if your just looking for a proxy07:17
naduser_and also i need to implemnt aubuntu samba server07:18
naduser_in a windows domain environment07:18
naduser_i need to know the authenticate methods07:19
naduser_available07:19
naduser_to authenticate windows domain users07:19
naduser_when they connect to samab shares07:19
stlsaintyou ever look into AD?07:19
stlsaintoh wait...samba shares?07:19
naduser_yes07:20
stlsainthrm, you want to setup multiple samba shares then make users authenticate to them?07:20
naduser_previously i configured a samba server and add it to windows ad07:20
stlsainti would figure that active directory would be your best bet, unless im not following how samba works07:21
naduser_previously i configured a SAMBA server and configured to authenticate users from the windows AD07:21
naduser_so they could use their same domain user account07:22
stlsaintheck running a proxy/filtering with iptables and using key authentication (ie: kerberos) will give you some good starting grounds07:22
naduser_and password when they connect to shares on the samba07:22
naduser_server07:22
naduser_but i want to know is there any other07:22
naduser_method07:22
naduser_where i can allow users to set their own password07:23
naduser_and access the samba shares07:23
stlsaintnaduser_: this what you looking for?? http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/200381/unix_active_directory_software_faster.html07:25
naduser_what is an open LDAP server??07:26
stlsaint:|07:27
naduser_??07:27
stlsaintnaduser_: fun time: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=LDAP+server07:27
stlsaintldap is pretty niffty07:28
stlsaintnaduser_: basis to get you started: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAPClientAuthentication07:28
stlsainti need a bot to do all this link work for me!07:28
naduser_wht do u mean07:30
naduser_i didnt get u07:30
stlsaintnaduser_: nothing, just an irc joke!07:32
naduser_lol07:32
Puck`haha stlsaint (:07:33
stlsainti try i try07:33
stlsaintfunny im working on two irc bots atm07:33
Puck`we could use one of the ubuntu bots07:33
naduser_hey guys whts a bot??07:33
Puck`oh, i guess that's what you're doing (:07:34
stlsaintPuck`: not quite07:34
Puck`oh, sorry then :P07:34
stlsaintPuck`: a bot but wont be used here i doubt!07:35
stlsaintPuck`: this channel is pretty high maintenance!07:35
stlsaintPuck`: only certified bots allowed :(07:35
Puck`stlsaint: as far as I saw, there were some emails about some bots I guess ..07:35
naduser_can anyone tel me what a bot is?07:35
Puck`naduser_: a bot is a robot, an application that connects to irc and does some custom commands for various purposes07:36
Puck`it's an automated service, or half-automated, because it runs with commands07:36
naduser_ohh07:37
naduser_i c07:37
stlsaintoh, i thought you were playing when you was asking that07:38
naduser_no no07:38
naduser_im new to IRC chating07:39
Puck`stlsaint: what type of bot?07:39
naduser_today is my first time07:39
Puck`naduser_: then, welcome to the fun (:07:39
naduser_thank you07:39
stlsaintnaduser_: oh, sorry than07:39
naduser_its ok07:39
stlsaintPuck`: an irc bot but with better features07:39
Puck`stlsaint: written in which lang? (:07:40
stlsaintpython07:40
Puck`oh, okay. I gotta check out these python irc bots, I only managed to run and manage tcl eggdrops07:41
stlsaintaye, eggdrops took to much compiling for my low level of patience07:42
stlsainttcl was annoying for me07:42
stlsaintplus i need to learn better programming so......07:42
stlsaintstart from scratch and all is well! :D07:42
Puck`((:07:43
Puck`I guess i had the patience for them since I didn't know any programming 8 years ago07:43
stlsaintyea im trying to learn so a more hands on approach is needed07:50
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naduser_hi08:25
naduser_anyone there08:25
ddecatormaybe :p08:26
naduser_need some help on open lDAP08:26
ddecatornot something i'm familiar with..08:26
naduser_ohh08:26
naduser_i just want to whether open LDAP server and a domain controller is the same thing\or 2 different08:27
naduser_servers08:27
stlsaintsorta with differences.....08:27
stlsaintldap is more geared toward authentications where as a domain controller is just that...a domain controller, it can be configured to do many things....08:28
stlsaintnaduser_: have you ever managed a domain with AD?08:28
naduser_yes08:28
naduser_server 200308:28
stlsaintaye, good choice :D08:28
stlsaintso some reading up on ldap should give you a good handling on it :D08:28
naduser_so is it possible to use an open LDAP server in a windows server 2003 network08:29
naduser_just as a stand alone open LDAP authentication server08:29
naduser_just to authenticate samba users08:29
stlsaintsamba i dont know but yes it can be used in AD for authentication!08:31
stlsaintso i would say yes08:32
naduser_so usually can you tel me some instances where open LDAP servers are used for authentication08:33
stlsaintum whenever you want to08:34
stlsaintyou would have to assign roles in AD to filter authentication...simple enough on windows side at least!08:34
naduser_i mean in a windows 2003 network i guess there is no need to install an open LDAP server08:34
naduser_cos all the authentication could be done from the primary windows DC08:35
naduser_ryt08:35
stlsaintnot really if you dont have to08:35
stlsaintunless you are merging two already full production environments i wouldnt see the need to *setup* a ldap server in a windows environment08:35
naduser_why08:36
stlsaintyes that DC can handle authentication, now if your working on a very large scale than i would suggest setting up seperate kerberos server and having DC authenticate against it08:36
stlsaintnaduser_: how big a environment are you working with?08:38
naduser_its a medium size netork08:38
naduser_with around 60 to 65 computers08:39
stlsainti was actually looking for number of clients to be honest :D08:39
stlsaintoh ok08:39
naduser_computers08:39
naduser_60 to 6508:39
naduser_and with 2 windows 200308:40
naduser_servers08:40
stlsaintwell thats small for a windows AD so it can easily handle anything else08:40
stlsaintwhich is why i would say that setting up ldap wouldnt necessarily be required08:40
naduser_yes08:40
naduser_but08:40
naduser_i know08:40
naduser_we do have a problem08:41
naduser_here we have only08:41
naduser_2 server 200308:41
naduser_computers08:41
naduser_one is used as the PDC and the mail server08:41
naduser_and the other as a sharepoint server08:41
stlsaintooohh sharepoint :D08:41
naduser_so since we have only 2 servers we dont have enough licences08:42
naduser_to configure a file08:42
naduser_server08:42
naduser_so i thought of installing a SAMBA08:42
naduser_file server08:42
naduser_as asolution08:42
stlsaintwhy not just add a role as a file server to that PDC?08:42
naduser_because it creates more traffice08:43
stlsaint:|08:43
naduser_because our servers are in out head office08:43
naduser_and if we create file sharing on one of those servers08:44
stlsaintwith 60 computers you cant be creating that much traffic to truly slow anything down :D08:44
naduser_no08:44
naduser_i need to implement a file server in our branch office08:44
naduser_since our PDC is in our head office08:44
stlsaintoooohhh ok, now your making more sense08:45
naduser_we access those server through a slow internet link08:45
naduser_so thats why i want to implement a samba server and configure it to authenticate from an open LDAP server08:45
naduser_so is it possible??08:46
naduser_i want to setup a stand alone samba server and a LDAP server08:46
naduser_i dont want to integrate those 2 servers to our existing windows domain08:47
stlsaintnaduser_: will this server ya: http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba_%26_LDAP#OpenLDAP08:47
naduser_and also i want to allow users to change their password08:48
naduser_when they first access the samba share08:48
naduser_or at any thime they wish08:49
naduser_so is it possible08:49
naduser_with an open LDAP server??08:49
stlsaintnaduser_: man did you read the link?08:49
stlsaintnaduser_: thats really bad practice to allow users to change passwords on a dime like that!08:50
naduser_no i mean i dont want the users to use a password that was created by me08:50
naduser_i want them to use their own password08:51
stlsaintoh ok, heck the passwd is stored in database, if they are using windows systems then they should be able to change08:51
stlsainti dont think youve read my link i posted above yet >:|08:51
naduser_im readin it08:52
naduser_brb08:52
stlsaintnaduser_: hey also a good one here: http://linuxwiki.riverworth.com/index.php?title=LDAP_Authentication08:53
stlsainthttp://linuxwiki.riverworth.com/index.php?title=LDAP_Authentication08:53
stlsaintnaduser_: i posted twice for you :D08:53
stlsaintoooo ssh modules :D08:53
stlsainttalsemgeest: W00T!!08:58
talsemgeestHeya stlsaint! :)08:58
stlsainttalsemgeest: sup man, what you been up to?08:59
stlsaintbeen awhile since you been in here eh, you dont even have voice!08:59
talsemgeeststlsaint: Just been enjoying a nice quiet birthday :)08:59
stlsaintorly, whats the new age?08:59
talsemgeestAnd yeah, I've been extrenely busy these days, so I have let my membership expire09:00
talsemgeestJust turned 18 :)09:00
stlsaintyoung buck eh!! :D09:00
talsemgeestHaha yup, thats me ;)09:00
talsemgeestSo hows things been with you stlsaint? :)09:00
kermiacanyone around running kde/ kubuntu that can verify something for me?09:00
ddecatortalsemgeest: congrats!09:00
talsemgeestCheers ddecator :)09:00
stlsaintkermiac: nope sorry09:00
stlsainttalsemgeest: python :D09:00
talsemgeestExcellent, same here :)09:01
stlsaintddecator: i dont like my linkys not being read!! >:O09:01
ddecatorstlsaint: sir yes sir :|09:01
stlsaintddecator: that was more a joke on op but SINCE YOU WANNA GO RUIN IT!!!09:03
stlsaintno more jokes for ddecator09:04
ddecatorstlsaint: who said i was joking, i have my serious yoda face on :|09:06
stlsainttalsemgeest: your 18 how busy can your life be?? :P09:06
talsemgeeststlsaint: Haha, trying to get all the marks for uni next year, and working hard trying to get a scholarship :)09:07
ddecatorscholarship == good09:07
stlsainttalsemgeest: good point there, you keep up that hard work! :D09:07
stlsaintschool loans are a nightmare !!!09:07
stlsaintand i dont even have any but my wife does!!!09:07
talsemgeeststlsaint: I certainly will, I only hope I have more time for ubuntu in the future09:08
ddecatori'll have 8 years of college loans :(09:08
talsemgeeststlsaint: And school loans are dead easy in NZ, no interest just fill out a few forms and you have it ;)09:08
stlsaintddecator: tsk tsk, hope that education is worth it :D09:08
ddecatorstlsaint: i'll be able to pick where i want to work and should make a good salary...so yes :)09:09
stlsainttalsemgeest: oh yea, well i already told my wife that im moving there once i get out the military :D09:09
talsemgeeststlsaint: Haha fair enough ;)09:09
stlsaintddecator: degree in.......09:09
stlsainttalsemgeest: man im serious, the US is getting abit crazy here , i need a break for awhile09:09
ddecatorstlsaint: PhD in Pediatric Clinical Psychology09:10
stlsaintand NZ just seems so peaceful :D09:10
talsemgeeststlsaint: Well then might see you in the future, hopefully with either a uni scholarship or my degree ;)09:10
stlsaintddecator: hats off to ya, looks like it will pay off! congrats09:10
ddecatorstlsaint: thanks, 6 years to go still :/09:10
stlsainttalsemgeest: you gonna live in nz for most your life?09:10
stlsaintddecator: damn09:11
talsemgeeststlsaint: I really don't know. Until after uni at least.09:11
stlsaintopps. sorry, no potty mouth words allowed :D09:11
stlsaintalright there i said it, i cant be held liable for anything else i say after that :D09:11
talsemgeestHaha09:11
stlsainttalsemgeest: follow the money BABY!!!!!09:12
talsemgeeststlsaint: Haha, you took the words right out of my mouth ;)09:12
stlsaintheck yea !!!!09:12
talsemgeestI wouldn't mind going to the UK for a bit, so that may happen. Plus I have family in Holland...09:13
talsemgeestBut for the time being, I am comfortable here, and living is cheap :)09:14
stlsaintcool cool09:14
ddecatornederland!09:17
stlsaintddecator: im everywhere, even the channels you dont mean to speak in :D09:23
ddecatorstlsaint: i did mean to speak in the team channel :p09:23
stlsaintoh09:24
stlsaintwhy team?09:24
ddecatorfigured it was offtopic...even though our convo in here has been offtopic anyway, haha09:24
stlsaintyep09:25
stlsaintthats what happens when its 330 am in here :D09:25
stlsaintchannel is fair game !09:25
ddecatortrue, it's quiet otherwise..09:26
stlsaintalright night all09:28
stlsaintwell morning all09:28
stlsaintwell morning for some09:29
ddecatorsame for me. night all09:32
naduser_hrllo10:09
naduser_hello10:09
kaushalhi13:12
squaregoldfishHello13:12
kaushalcan i seek help for my issue about my post on https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2010-July/004402.html13:12
kaushalsquaregoldfish, hi13:13
squaregoldfishkaushal: That one's beyond my expertise I'm afraid13:14
kaushalok13:14
xsaiddxhello guys13:25
xsaiddxi wanna use my thumbive to install lubuntu andi have a 1GB thumbrdive is it too small or not13:26
FanshaweHey all. I use Ubuntum on a netbook and some windows don't have scroll bars and aren't adjustable to fit the small screen (like the disk utility, for example). Is there a way to force them to fit?14:39
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holsteinFanshawe: you got the netbook remix i assume15:38
holsteini was looking around for an answer to that too recently15:38
holsteini was thinking there should be an aggument to bypass maximus15:39
holsteinagrument*15:39
* holstein has had no luck yet 15:39
stlsaintyo yo yo15:45
* mohi57o9 pokez stlsaint 15:45
stlsaintmohi57o9: what is this meaning this physical attack!?!?15:54
mohi57o9yep :P15:54
stlsaintyep isnt a meaning....15:58
stlsaintmohi57o9: ping17:17
mohi57o9heya stlsaint17:21
stlsaintmohi57o9: sup wit ya?17:24
mohi57o9just now finished dinner. I've got two responsibilities, to start an LUG and a LoCo17:25
mohi57o9stlsaint ^^17:25
stlsaintmohi57o9: why both?17:25
mohi57o9our district has no LUG and so Free Software Foundation Tamil Nadu preferred starting an LUG in our District.17:27
mohi57o9Our college Head Of the Department wants a LoCo and I am going to initiate Ubuntu LoCo there =]17:28
mohi57o9stlsaint17:28
stlsaintsick17:28
mohi57o9...17:28
nalysHi, I'm trying to use the audio program ardour which uses jack on ubuntu lucid lynx. Ardour seems to work and to connect to the running jack server. However, using ALSA, I get no sound despite moving bars on the audio track in ardour... when I switch to oss there is sound but it sounds weird and fuzzy... I tried changing latency and buffers but that doesn't seem to work either... any hints? thx.17:28
stlsaintmohi57o9: get with ptag hes a loco guru17:28
mohi57o9stlsaint ok =]17:29
stlsaintnalys: i suck at sound issues, maybe this can help you better: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449&highlight=sound+troubleshoot17:32
nalysstlsaint: thanks!17:34
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biharihi18:29
stlsaintbihari: sup18:29
biharihi stlsaint18:30
bihariwhats going on here nuthing specially18:30
philinuxo/18:30
biharii wants to know about ubuntu18:30
philinuxbihari: what?18:31
biharianything about ubuntu <i know how to install and remove programmer18:31
biharii wants to know more about ubuntu18:31
philinuxhttp://ubuntuguide.org/18:32
philinuxhttp://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/18:33
philinuxbihari: enough to get you going?18:33
philinuxhttp://amitech.50webs.com/installing/index.php.html18:34
bihari?18:34
philinux?18:35
philinuxbihari: right click open link in browser, have good read.18:35
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bihariphilinux i know all this18:38
biharitell me some thing new18:38
philinuxbihari: What you want to know18:42
biharirelated to networking18:42
biharisecurity18:42
biharishell scripting18:42
biharii mean i want to do open source coder18:43
stlsaintbihari: you should be more specific when you ask question instead of saying: "I want to know more about ubuntu"....when really you dont!!!18:43
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philinuxI aint going googling18:44
bihariwell i know about installing and removing softwear in ubuntu18:44
philinuxmy google foo is pretty good but then so can anyone18:44
philinuxhttp://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installingsoftware18:45
philinuxOr do he mean compliling. Crystal bar in action here18:46
philinuxcrystal ball needed18:46
hobgoblinbetter to leave it at home philinux18:46
philinuxAlwat18:47
frank1_anyone know how i can stop downloads from killing my internet connection?18:47
philinuxo/ always do lol18:47
frank1_never had this problem before18:47
philinuxfrank1_ you mean torrents or any18:47
frank1_both18:48
stlsaintfrank1_: get better nic! :D18:48
frank1_torrents are killing me now but if my sister is watching a tv show online i cant even boot my ps318:48
hobgoblinbihari: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/BashScripting  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=33386718:49
frank1_i never had this issue before.. i used to be able to play ps3 and dl 12 torrents with no problems18:49
hobgoblinfrank1_: whatever client you use will have some way of changing the download speed - fiddle about with that18:50
biharithankds18:50
hobgoblinbihari: you;re welcome, if you want anything else - I would search for it - while people are happy to help - that's why we are here - we're not a library service ;)18:51
frank1_the term fiddle doesnt work well with a computer spaz such as myself18:51
hobgoblinchange the download speed :D18:52
philinuxfrank1_ deluge has a nice interface to set download speeds.18:52
frank1_yea thats what im using18:52
frank1_idk why anything would have changed though. i havent adjusted any settings18:52
frank1_any ideas as to what i should set my bandwidth usage to?18:54
philinuxWhats your bandwidth18:55
philinuxfrom isp i mean18:55
philinuxhttp://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/18:55
frank1_down 537 up 100618:59
stlsaintmy download is 6143 and upload is 156919:01
frank1_k so whats that mean19:17
frank1_stlsaint: so why the hell is my dl speed so slow19:37
hobgoblinfrank1_: could be you're isp is throttling you19:41
frank1_in  stupid people terms?19:45
hobgoblinfrank1_: possibly if they picked up you are d/l torrents they might have capped your speed - no real way to tell - of course it is also possible that the combinations of all the torrents is doing it19:49
hobgoblinfrank1_: try changing the download rate in deluge prefs19:50
frank1_yea i stopped the torrents and my speeds changes to 3795dl and 1858up19:50
hobgoblinI don't have deluge to look - but there will be somewhere to change the speed19:51
hobgoblinfrank1_: http://deluge-torrent.org/images/screenshots/gtkui_dust_burnt_12x_options.png19:52
frank1_yea im just not sure what to set them to20:02
hobgoblinfrank1_: basically just change them till it's not an issue - afraid I can;t be a lot more help20:03
squaregoldfishfrank1_: This may be of use: http://dev.deluge-torrent.org/wiki/UserGuide/BandwidthTweaking20:05
frank1_thankssquare ill look into that20:14
philinuxo/20:15
philinuxo/20:16
philinuxtrying this from my palm pre20:16
pedro3005hey philinux20:18
philinuxwow it works palm pre rocks20:19
* philinux amazed20:20
pedro3005:D20:21
philinuxhttp://webchat.freenode.net/20:24
nhandlerphilinux: They don't have a native irc client (or an ssh client) ?20:25
philinuxnot until the warranty expires and I unlock it20:26
philinuxEven this is not perfect. Passable20:29
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philinuxo/20:57
st33med\o20:59
philinuxpre stopped working had to re log in21:00
stlsaintanybody around for some help...21:17
hobgoblinpossibly21:18
stlsainthobgoblin: hey man, i have network issues :D21:18
* phillw lurking21:18
hobgoblinhope you get some help then :(21:19
stlsaintLOL21:19
stlsainthobgoblin: cmon man21:19
hobgoblinsorry ... me kwap with network issues21:19
phillwditto21:19
stlsaintLIARS!!!21:19
hobgoblin:(21:19
stlsaintphillw: you host a freaking forum for christ sake you have to know some networking .....21:20
swoodyheya hobgoblin :)21:20
stlsaintswoody: HELP!21:20
phillwstlsaint: yes I do, and when it goes wrong I raise a support ticket :-)21:20
stlsaintthey all have turned against me!!21:20
stlsaintphillw: LOL, dang it21:20
philinuxhobgoblin: I is on my palm pre21:20
phillwas my local system is, well, localhost I don't have networking issues21:21
swoodyheya stlsaint :) Whatcha need help with?21:21
hobgoblinphilinux: I saw :)21:21
stlsaintswoody: thank you, glad i can count on SOME PEOPLE in this team still!! :P21:21
stlsaintswoody: so its pretty small but annoying21:21
holsteinphillw: hey :)21:21
holsteinim waiting for bug-squad approval21:22
ddecatorthat shouldn't take too long21:22
stlsaintswoody: i have server running ssh....ive done ssh a million times so my configs are correct, but when i run ssh command i get21:22
holsteinand reading :)21:22
stlsaintno route to host...classic error of a system not on the network, but i know my server is on network, cause ifconfig returns all relevant info21:22
phillwholstein: I do not think that will take long - they are advertising for slaves (oops, new members) ;-)21:22
ddecatorholstein: i'm a bugsquad mentor. i already have two students so i can't take another on, but let me know if you have any questions :)21:22
holsteinddecator: thanks21:23
philinuxhobgoblin: not perfect21:23
holsteinddecator: im not in any hurry21:23
stlsaintswoody: AAANNDDD i can even update/upgrade the server...but i cant reach it locally...21:23
* holstein just wanting to get more involved21:23
stlsaintswoody: thoughts...?21:24
swoodystlsaint: ouch, I'm not that great with ssh or networking, but let me take a look :/21:24
stlsaintddecator: bugmentor eh, well i tried quite some time back and was rudely ignored so i have left bug squad be, screw'em!!21:24
phillwI dare not join the bug squad, I think the doc team is going to be keeping me well busy :-)21:24
ddecatorstlsaint: we recently revamped the process, it is MUCH better now. there are admins who assign students to mentors instead of it being an unproductive free-for-all21:25
stlsaintddecator: sure sure, that coming from a mentor....all LIES!!21:25
ddecatorstlsaint: look how many students have been assigned at the bottom :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors21:26
philinuxo/ test message ignore21:27
phillwstlsaint: yeah, i can see that point - there are un-adopted slaves on the UBT :-\  I was cheeky and volunteered one to be my master :p21:27
stlsaintphillw: i have no knowledge of what you speak of!21:31
stlsainthell ill take a paddy, i just was never deemed a mentor21:31
stlsaint=D21:31
hobgoblinstlsaint: all you had to do was have a padawan and you were a mentor ;)21:33
swoodystlsaint: can you ping this ssh host?21:33
stlsaintswoody: problem solved...seems i needed to restart, three times for my server to grab ip correctly21:34
stlsaintswoody: thanks21:34
swoodystlsaint: ah good :)21:35
swoodystlsaint: have you tried seeing if you can assign that machine a static IP on your network? May help if you use DHCP by default21:35
zkriessestlsaint: when you're a full member on the bt you can have a padawan21:38
stlsaintzkriesse: well crimey mate, ive been missing out on paddys for a year now :D21:39
zkriessestlsaint: haha21:39
xsaiddxhello guys i jst installed lubuntu but i guess im havin some fstab prblem21:41
holsteinddecator: can i request a mentor?21:42
xsaiddxcus i dont see my /21:42
xsaiddxi only see this21:42
ddecatorholstein: for bugsquad?21:42
holsteinyeah21:42
holsteinJFo is nearby21:42
holsteini can actually talk to him in person21:43
ddecatorholstein: just see "How to request a mentor" https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors :)21:43
holsteinAH21:43
ddecatorand jfo doesn't have any students it doesn't look like, but idk if he's busy and can't handle them or what the reason is..21:43
ddecatorbut you can talk to him, and the admins can set it up if you both agree to it :)21:44
holsteincool21:46
holsteinSO21:46
holsteinis this considered my wiki?21:46
holsteinhttps://launchpad.net/~mikeh78921:46
zkriesseholstein: nope21:46
zkriesseholstein: a personal wiki page is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/zkriesse21:46
holsteingreat21:46
holsteinSO21:46
holsteini just make one?21:46
zkriesseholstein: yes..want some help?21:46
holsteinive made some wiki pages for out loco21:47
holsteinzkriesse: maybe21:47
holsteinlet me see how i do :)21:47
* zkriesse Has a black belt in Wiki Fu21:47
holsteinand i'll shout out if you dont mind21:47
zkriesseholstein: i'll be here21:47
holstein:)21:47
bobo123hi22:10
bobo123what is the name of compiz-config?22:10
bobo123to get the settings for zoom and the cube etc?22:11
stlsaintcompizconfig...22:11
stlsaintcompizconfig-settings-manager22:12
stlsaintbobo123: ^^22:12
bobo123ohh.. thats it! :-D22:12
bobo123thnkx22:12
stlsaintbobo123: no prob22:14
duanedesignhello stlsaint22:15
stlsaintduanedesign: hey did you know that recordmydesktop does sound as well22:15
duanedesignstlsaint: yeah. that is what i have been using.22:16
duanedesignstlsaint: does the sound sync up well for you?22:16
stlsaintduanedesign: has for me so far22:25
duanedesignstlsaint: hmm.22:25
xsaiddxhello22:27
stlsaintxsaiddx: sup22:27
xsaiddxi've some problem with my fstab can you help please22:27
stlsaintxsaiddx: state question and whoever can will help22:28
phillwwb xsaiddx22:28
xsaiddxyeh22:29
xsaiddxphillw, hey22:29
xsaiddxon my file browser22:29
phillwi replied just as you logged off :-\22:29
xsaiddxi dont see my / and my home is mounted on media22:29
xsaiddxso i dont kno how to fix it22:29
xsaiddxwell i do kno but im not that sure22:30
xsaiddxso i dont wanna mess with it and descided to ask for help22:30
phillwcan you pastebin the result of mount and the contents of your /etc/fstab22:31
duanedesignpastebin =   http://paste.ubuntu.com22:31
xsaiddxyes here you22:31
xsaiddxhttp://pastebin.com/SyQTcSiw22:31
xsaiddxwant me guys to do also blkid ?22:32
phillwxsaiddx: an output of mount would help me22:33
phillwwhile you're at it, pop on sudo fdisk -l22:34
xsaiddxyeh im about to do it22:34
xsaiddxhere you go22:34
xsaiddxhttp://pastebin.com/Pvz16tjB22:34
phillwi am assuming that sda7 is your /home partition and there is no entry in the fstab for it, so it would not automount ?22:37
xsaiddxyess22:37
phillwokies, I'll edit http://pastebin.com/SyQTcSiw for you.22:37
xsaiddxyeh i guess well i have on media as  /media/029af1ee-c356-457c-b9b4-9794451ffcc822:38
xsaiddxphillw, can i pste it to my fstab now ?22:38
xsaiddxlet me gues it wud be22:39
phillwi have edited http://pastebin.com/SyQTcSiw with the line you need, I have put it at the bottom :-022:40
phillw:-022:40
xsaiddx/dev/sda7 /home  ext3 idk the otpion  and the <pass> is 022:40
phillw:-)22:40
phillwthe option is defaults, I have cheated and used my fstab entry for my home partition, just altered the sda number and the fact you are using ext3 and i use ext4 - other than that - that is what I have on my system22:42
xsaiddxphillw, yesh but i dont see any /dev/sda722:43
xsaiddxcus the other time on ubuntu i had to specify  it with the /dev/sda7 not ony the UID22:44
xsaiddxwell let me try22:44
xsaiddxthe last line its the /dev/sda7 ??22:44
xsaiddxthis one ?22:44
xsaiddxphillw, the last line its swap ??22:45
xsaiddxi dont see any new line22:45
holsteinzkriesse: i got a pretty good start on my wiki22:46
phillwxsaiddx: oops, should be there now !!22:46
phillwline 1222:46
xsaiddxok22:46
holsteinis this element <<Include(BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Wiki/Includes/Header)>>22:47
* phillw forgot to tell it my email address22:47
xsaiddxphillw, still not there22:47
xsaiddxrefreshed many times and still not22:47
holsteinis that a generic thing that i can choose a different version of?22:47
phillwhttp://pastebin.com/5bLDuF6F22:47
phillwit changes the ID number, idk why !!!22:48
holsteinAH, i think i get it22:49
phillwholstein: I look forward to seeing it when you are done, I'm still learning wiki-fu ;-)22:49
holsteinmaybe ill steal the one from our loco22:49
xsaiddxphillw, thanks22:50
xsaiddxlet me reboot22:50
phillwnothing gets stolen, they're all under GPL ;-)22:50
xsaiddxbtw whts the wiki-fu ?22:50
holsteinphillw: i should credit zkriesse somewhere on my wiki22:50
holsteini stole a lot of it22:51
holsteinhis wiki looks great22:51
xsaiddxis it jst a normal wiki with suffix fu ??22:51
xsaiddxok rebootin now brb22:51
phillwholstein: I wouldn't worry - he set mine up for me https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw  I had to just edit the template to put in the stuff relevant to me22:52
holsteinnice :)22:53
phillwit's certainly an improvement on what I had :p22:54
cool_n_frostyhow can i simaltaneously browse a local site, set up as a virtual host, and a remotely hosted one, both with the same domain name,22:54
stlsaintDO YOUR OWN WIKI!!!22:55
stlsaintcool_n_frosty: looking to do some vhosting eh! :D22:55
cool_n_frostyalready done but o22:55
phillwstlsaint: we are told on the UBT wiki pages to use any of the existing ones as templates :p22:55
stlsaintlol22:55
stlsaintcool_n_frosty: on second thought i read that wrong, your not looking for vhost22:56
stlsaintcool_n_frosty: honestly your question came out jacked up, please break it down to individual task...22:56
cool_n_frostysorry! i've set up a local vhost for a site, that i host remotely as well22:56
stlsaintlocal site=apache2, virtual host=openvz, remote access=ssh, same domain=vhost...anything else :D22:57
cool_n_frostywhat happens now is, i can open the local one no probs22:57
phillwholstein: #ubuntu-beginners-wiki22:57
stlsaintphillw: your not allowed to use mine....its too sloppy! LOL22:58
cool_n_frostybut when i try to open the remote one (they both have the same domain name) in my browser, it still opens the local one for me.22:58
phillwI'm happy with the template Zach put on for me ;-)22:58
stlsaintcool_n_frosty: ok yea i was right, you need vhost22:59
stlsaintcool_n_frosty: why may i ask are you using one domain to host from a local and remote server?23:00
cool_n_frostygood question23:01
cool_n_frostythe site is based on Joomla CMS23:01
holsteinphillw: yeah, the beginners wiki banner is the one i decided to go with23:01
holsteinhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/holstein23:01
holsteinthe one for our loco was GIANT23:02
holsteinthats got a lot of what i interested in on it23:02
stlsaintcool_n_frosty: still doesnt explain why your using two servers for one site....23:02
cool_n_frostywell, tmho, the whole purpose of setting up a local vhost is to set up a sorta local sandbox to work with a view on a hosting this under development site remotely. or am i wrong?23:04
stlsaintcool_n_frosty: ok, so if the vhost is local that means you can access it via ssh with 192.168.1.123 right, so wheres the conflict coming in at?23:08
stlsaintcool_n_frosty: and then control the remote site with the public ip...23:08
stlsaintcool_n_frosty: so thats why i ask about wheres the conflict?23:09
xsaiddxhello im bk23:11
xsaiddxphillw: you still there23:12
phillwholstein: that looks pretty kewl :-)23:12
xsaiddxinfact the cuase of all this fstab problem i've installed a fresh lubuntu on my /23:12
phillwhi xsaiddx, yup I'm still here23:12
holstein:)23:12
holsteinthanks guys, im going to catch a nap before my show23:13
phillwxsaiddx: why re-install when it is only an fstb problem? That's the sort of thing microsoft users do?23:13
xsaiddxso im wonderin why those ubuntu repo are not activated is it normal23:13
cool_n_frostyI recon my local vhost-ed site, that i set up to 127.0.0.3, is my local lab and is not accessable publicly. is it? at least, making it accessable publicly was not what i wanted from it.23:13
xsaiddxnoo23:13
xsaiddxas i told b4 i guess i was on ubnut then went to lubuntu n i told you lately iwanna have a fresh install of lubuntu so when i did the fstab issue showed up23:14
xsaiddxim not that dump phillw  : |23:14
phillwxsaiddx: you said you re-installed, have you had the installation cd checked via md5checksum?23:14
xsaiddxso it is normal if my ubuntu epo are not activated ??23:14
phillwxsaiddx: ^^23:15
xsaiddxno iused a thumbdrive and i idnt check ot the sum23:15
xsaiddxbut i had some problem with that thumbdrive tho23:15
xsaiddxand after many tried i made it23:15
xsaiddxbut i dint format my /home23:15
phillwxsaiddx: I'd strongly suggest that you do, as you seem to be in the land of 'funnies' and one of the easiest ways to get there is with a bad md5checksum23:16
xsaiddxonly the /23:16
phillwxsaiddx: aer you on lubuntu or ubuntu?23:16
phillw*are*23:16
xsaiddxphillw: i didnt get you23:17
xsaiddxno on lubuntu23:17
xsaiddxbut now a real lubuntu23:17
xsaiddxnot like i used to be23:17
xsaiddxubuntu then went to lubuntu via lubuntu-packed installed23:17
xsaiddx*package23:17
xsaiddxphillw: why my ubuntu repo are not activated23:19
xsaiddxshud i do it manually ?23:19
phillwhead over to #lubuntu, it's a bit quieter :-)23:20
cool_n_frostyany ideas?23:21
TheSkewardHi.  I'm new to linux and trying to get my wireless connection working23:30
TheSkewardI'm at auburn university, which has a somewhat outdated page on how to connect using ubuntu here - http://www.auburn.edu/oit/connectivity/wireless/ht_auwifi_linux.php23:30
TheSkewardI'm using a Belkin N1 wireless adapter, model F5D8051, ver 200023:31
TheSkewardI'm using a laptop and going back and forth23:31
TheSkewardi've downloaded ndiswrappers and I believe Ihave succesffully got the driver working23:32
TheSkewardhowever, when I follow the instructions at the auburn website, it doesn't find the wireless network23:32
TheSkewardI'm out of ideas as to what I could be missing23:32
TheSkewardCan anyone help me?23:32
TheSkewardubuntu 10.04, btw.23:33
cool_n_frosty<stlsaint> getting back to your question on conflict. to me the conflict is in not being able to browse the same site locally and remotely.23:33
KnitGalToday I got Compaq Presario CQ62-231NR Notebook, which is 64bit. I downloaded Ubuntu 10.4, 64 bit version and installed onto DVD. Then, I booted off the DVD drive. I want to install Ubuntu as dual boot since I want to keep Windows (need to be able to check websites in IE, FF and Win Safari). Going through Ubuntu install, I only got 2 options: Erase whole disk and Specify partitions (advanced). So, what can I do to get 23:49
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newboon2ageTheSkeward: sometimes when i've installed/reinstalled modemmanager it seems to kick networkmanager into working and gets the wireless working/activated.23:52
TheSkewardnewboon2age: I have no internet connection on the computer with ubuntu23:53
TheSkewardi'm on my roommate's laptop right now23:53
newboon2ageso you can't easily reinstall modemmanager is what you're saying.23:53
newboon2ageTheSkeward: is there a way you could plug into ethernet?23:54
TheSkewardunfortunately, no23:54
TheSkewardI could download the package for modemmanager on this laptop and transfer it to the ubuntu computer via a usb drive.23:55
newboon2ageTheSkeward: well hmmmm... but then I don't know how to instruct you in installing it properly.  Can anyone else help with how to use apt-get in that situation?23:56
newboon2ageTheSkeward: Also I can't say whether that would solve the problem or not.23:57
newboon2ageTheSkeward: one thing you could try in the meantime is to go to a terminal and run 'sudo killall NetworkManager'  and tell us what it says.23:58
TheSkewarduh23:59
TheSkewardthat sounds dangerous.23:59
newboon2ageTheSkeward: not really what it does is to23:59

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