[00:00] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [00:01] that wiki page was made from drs305s Forum post [00:01] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275 [00:01] number 14^^^ is booting from .iso [00:02] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/drs305/Sandbox#Booting an ISO [00:03] he's not, from what I am aware of, quite ready to release it out into the world, but he does work very quickly on these projects. [00:05] duanedesign: oddly enough, there is a request in for the community page to be the wiki page, I see the wiki page now says to use that. It was the difference between the two that 1st got me involved with the doc team :-) [00:05] phillw: whew! we'll have to harmonize all our Grub2 wiki pages somehow... :) [00:05] newboon2age_: I have a request in so they all point to one place, that is the only way to keep things up to date. [00:07] phillw: one place or alternatively effectively factor the info into different component parts which are each then kept up to date. [00:07] the sandbox page is a work in progress for dave, it is not finished and ready to be used yet. [00:07] i'm trying opensolaris in a vb now [00:08] win_2_linux: i've run it a little on vb. it was pretty cool. [00:08] * phillw only has 1GB RAM on my laptop, so VB is not really an option [00:08] newboon just to see the difference between that and linux [00:09] phillw: when i was running Xubuntu i only had 238MB on my laptop. Boy coulda used Lubuntu then. Xubuntu didn't quite cut it. [00:09] what file system does unix use same as linux or is it slightly different [00:09] newboon2age_: lubuntu is the smallest one of the familly, [00:10] win_2_linux: yes. I didn't think it was quite up to Linux standards in some respects, but in others it was ahead. [00:10] unix uses same as linux [00:10] phillw: i think zfs. Which is open source and has some interesting advanced features. [00:11] have you all seen WattOS [00:11] http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=wattos [00:11] no what is wattos [00:11] is it based on ubuntu [00:12] Ubuntu 10.04 and uses OpenBox and LXDE [00:12] i really like Lubuntu so i have been wanting to try wattOS [00:13] I'm googling and it looks like OpenSolaris is supposed to be ZFS on its next release which was supposed to happen in April, but due to some Oracle lack of drive i don't think has happened yet. [00:13] OpenBox and LXDE... I'm having a look at it. [00:13] Here's a thing re: zfs: http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+zfs/whatis [00:13] duanedesign: I'm sticking with lubuntu :-) [00:14] and I'm sticking ubuntu or at least linux [00:14] km0r3: if you put on lxde you will get some pretty out dated stuff, you can update just lxde components if you add the lubuntu ppa. [00:15] i hope btrfs will be an option in 10.10 :) [00:16] win_2_linux: Oracle hasn't been totally clear on whether their going to push for OpenSolaris. It might take awhile for the community to rally and overcome Oracle's ambivalence. [00:16] phillw: I was never a fan of LXDE. More of OpenBox, because I'm an Ex-Crunchbang user. But yes, looks like the folks at lxde are quite lazy atm. [00:17] is oracle going to continue opensolaris or is it going to just push solaris [00:17] open solaris still has a lic agreement [00:17] duanedesign: have you already read benchmarks? Btrfs seems to be not an alternative for normal users atm. [00:17] km0r3: it's not that lxde is lazy, it is that the small team is concentrating on lubuntu, which uses openbox anyway [00:18] win_2_linux: no other non-Microsoft, non-Apple distro/OS that i'm aware of has as much support available as Ubuntu, just so you know... [00:18] yeah i c that [00:19] km0r3: with the current dailybuild of 10.10 you can install Ubuntu on btrfs but not boot from a btrfs partition. So you have to make an ext3/4 /boot [00:19] win_2_linux: Redhat has a lot, but not as friendly from what i've seen and not as much. Peppermint (Ubuntu, small resource distro) is small but their support company is very good. [00:22] phillw: Ok. I take back what I've said. "Lazy" wasn't the right word to use either. [00:22] win_2_linux: its quite unclear what Oracle is up to with OpenSolaris and Solaris , but I think ultimately OpenSolaris will be free to do as they wish. I don't think Oracle will be able to stop them even if they want to and i doubt they want to. [00:22] duanedesign: so you already tested it? How's it doing? [00:23] km0r3: it definetly needs to keep up with the linux filesystems that already perform very well [00:23] km0r3: i havent yey. ibuclaw has [00:23] yet* [00:24] km0r3: he seemed to be happy with it. But you are right it has a little ways to go [00:24] duanedesign: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ext4_btrfs_nilfs2&num=1 [00:24] win_2_linux: Oracle reinstated a 90-day trial clause on Solaris but not OpenSolaris. [00:24] duanedesign: those are benchmarks. At the time of writing it wasn't an alternative. Maybe that changed. [00:28] km0r3: i think they still have some work to do. These are a little more recent. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_netbook_fs&num=1 [00:29] duanedesign: ah, thanks! Yes, they are. [00:29] duanedesign: there's not much to say [00:31] hey duanedesign got a sec? [00:47] hi everyone [00:47] i have a question [00:48] asterismo: ask away !! [00:48] does anybody know how to split a large OGG video in 2 smaller videos? [00:48] the thing is that i merged several videoclips from yputube in pitivi and resulted in a 4:20 hr video [00:49] zkriesse: hello. I am half here :P [00:49] zkriesse: whats up? [00:49] then i tried to burn that in a home DVD with brasero and it says is too large [00:49] so i want to split for 2 DVD burning [00:50] but i don't know how to split [00:50] and it's hard to google [00:53] asterismo: there is avidemux, which is available via ubuntu [00:53] but, tbh, you'd probably be better heading over to http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=334 [01:01] duanedesign: any team happenings that you know of in the past month? I'm making the team report but theres not much that i can remember [01:07] avidemux does not open the OGG video generated in pitivi [01:07] thats the problem [01:07] may be a bug? [01:09] asterismo: I'm not a vid person, it was why I suggested that you pop onto the forum area, as those people are really up on doing multi media stuff :-) [01:09] oh thanks i will check it out [01:16] asterismo: yeah, that seems to be the most up to date area, there are discussions on which video editors are the best along with instructions to use them, you could even possibly get some one to help you learn :-) [01:16] thanx phillw [01:54] zkriesse: unfortunately i have nothing i can add [02:19] hey ikonia [02:19] i mean ikt [02:25] heya zkriesse :) [03:53] hello Ex-Opesa [03:53] Hi :) [03:55] and how are you? [03:55] I am fine and you? [03:56] HAPPY FOURTH! [03:56] Fine i guess [03:56] Its quite silence here. [03:56] okay^^ [03:56] yeah most the team is out on holiday [03:57] ahan [03:57] Can you guide me about one channel? [03:57] In freenode its "ubuntu-pk" [03:57] It don't got any message, etc. Is that group of Pakistani users of Ubuntu? [03:58] not sure what it's for [03:58] okay [04:01] zkriesse: I don't have any. I just wanted to know if that group is for users of Ubuntu for Pakistan, thats it. [04:01] i'm assuming [04:01] I will stay in the channel and see if anyone replies [04:04] Ex-Opesa: the loco team is at http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-pk [04:07] Phullw: okay, thanks, then this channel is definitely for Pakistani users. [04:09] Ex-Opesa: the launchpad page is at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-pk that may have more contact details for you. [04:10] phillw: Yes, I have seen that already, thank you for your guideline. I am actually Pakistani, so thinking to help my fellow users. =) [04:13] Ex-Opesa: I'm trying to wake some one up in your area, but he's lazy and never replies - :-D [04:13] lol [04:13] (Oooh, don't repeat that to him, he'd get really annoyed, as he does work hard) :-) [04:14] ah okay. its 8 AM in Pakistan, he is probably at work or sleeping. ^^ [04:14] No, I won't. I don't really know who is that person even. ^^ [04:17] Ex-Opesa: here is a blog by someone in the pakistan area who is active in the Pakistan LoCo. http://ubuntu.sabza.org/tag/pakistan/ [04:17] might be some good information on their about what is going on locally in the FOSS community [04:18] Okay, thank you. [04:21] duanedesign: you busy ? [04:52] Ugh. Has ANYBODY found a working Mac OSX theme for Avant Window Navigator 0.4? [05:00] Darkness_Des, why not use Docky? [05:00] It's better and acts a lot like a Mac OS X doc [05:01] I haven't tried it yet, but I do mainly like the features of AWN. [05:01] I'll give dock a shot though, it's work a try. [05:01] It's really nice :) [05:02] Not as customizable, but, it's much more user friendly [05:02] As long as it works. I'm going for an OS X look with the functionality of Linux. [05:02] It even has intellihide [05:03] Erm..... Problem already. [05:04] 1: The constant Docky icon on it. [05:04] 2: I want it to have the 3D Look. [05:04] Like in this picture [05:04] http://mag.typecanvas.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/leopard_screenshot.png [05:07] Oh you can [05:07] click the anchor logo in the dock [05:08] Then click the dock and click '3D background' [05:10] Darkness_Des, you there? [05:10] Yeah. [05:10] I can't select 3D background..... [05:11] Did you get the apt version? [05:11] Yes. [05:11] Not the most developed one [05:11] Hang on [05:12] Ok. [05:13] https://launchpad.net/docky/2.0 << Darkness_Des [05:13] Thank you! [05:13] You're welcome :D [05:13] Any idea what the build dependencies are? [05:14] I think there is a docky repo [05:15] Hmm........ Lemme seee. [05:15] Alright, ./configure found the issue. [05:16] http://ppa.launchpad.net/docky-core/ppa/ubuntu lucid main [05:16] That's the source repo [05:16] It has all the latest bzr things [05:17] Wow, thanks. [05:17] Wait, binary [05:17] binary repo [05:19] Erm, is that bad? [05:19] What do you mean? [05:19] Binary is good [05:19] Ok. Making sure. [05:19] Means you have it precompiled already [05:20] Thought you meant as opposed to a deb repo, where I'd have to place the binaries myself. [05:21] It's a deb [05:21] deb = binary [05:21] Alright, added the repo and installed. It works now. [05:21] Good :D [05:21] 3D and everything? [05:22] Any possible way to kill off the Anchor icon? Or does that always have to be there? [05:22] 3D and all. [05:22] It has to be [05:22] It doesn't bother me too much [05:22] At all, actually [05:23] Meh. Whatever works. [05:23] Thank you very much! [05:23] You are welcome :) [05:23] You will like docky a lot :D [05:24] It looks like it. Just need to set it up with all my apps, add a few things, and I'll be done. [05:25] And you can customize the zoom and size by clicking the anchor icon [05:25] And how many docks there are [05:25] And how they hide [05:25] I think this is going to be my favorite dock..... [05:25] And and andandandandandand [05:25] * st33med explodes [05:25] Is there an effect that allows to minimize to about the size of a standard gnome-panel until I hover over it? [05:25] :D [05:26] ^_^ [05:26] Ah, intellihide [05:26] Yes, click on the anchor icon [05:26] What if I still want it there and visible, just tiny? [05:26] Hrmm.... [05:27] I don't knoww [05:27] intellihide is the best option right now [05:27] I'll look into it, just having a regular dock wouldn't kill me. [05:27] This thing is epic. [05:27] Basically, it hides when you have an active window over the dock [05:28] This will work. Thank you! [05:28] Welcome :) [05:29] I have a unique little setup here... would you like a screenshot? [05:29] Sure! [05:29] One sec [05:29] sup peeps [05:29] Yo. Wazzap? [05:30] not much [05:30] Darkness_Des: help me? [05:30] http://img810.imageshack.us/i/docky.png/ [05:31] Sure. Whatcha need> [05:31] Darkness_Des: I'm a complete newb...what is ubuntu? [05:31] That's a really good one. [05:31] Wait... you're an admin/mod on this channel, and you have no idea? [05:31] Hehehehe [05:31] damnit he figured it out too fast [05:32] It was a test [05:32] :D [05:32] O.o [05:32] st33med: correct [05:32] I remember. I was once a member :D [05:32] I've been here before, the first time was with a hellish BASH script I was working on. Learned a few tricks that night. [05:33] cool [05:33] Yep.e [05:33] Typos galore! [05:33] Darkness_Des, seriously, what is Ubuntu? I have no idea... [05:33] lol [05:33] :) [05:33] Hehehehe. [05:33] ok st33med you should know...you're an ubuntu member so.... [05:33] Hehe :D [05:34] I gotta say, I LOVE this dock. [05:34] what dock [05:34] Docky 2.0 [05:34] * zkriesse likes docks as they mean fish [05:35] is it in the software center? [05:35] Not sure. [05:35] A more updated one from the docky repos, apparently. [05:35] It's in the repos, but the binary is out of date [05:35] Yes [05:36] docky has improved a lot since it seperated from Gnome Do [05:36] Hey duanedesign! [05:36] duanedesign: sup my brotha [05:36] I tried Gnome Do. Didn't really agree with me. [05:38] OH! I realized another problem I'm having. This time it's more than vanity though. [05:38] Every time I boot into Windows 7, I can't reboot and use GRUB. Or Windows 7, for that matter. [05:39] Meh, that can wait. It's not like I use it ever. [05:42] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/grub-wont-boot-windows-7-a-764813/ [05:43] Darkness_Des: one more thread on the matter. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/suse-novell-60/windows-7-wipes-grub-everytime-it-boots-782704/ [05:44] Ah, that seems more direct. [05:44] Thanks! [05:52] Well, I'ma go for now. Thanks for all the help! [05:52] bye Darkness_Des [07:06] hello [07:06] hey [07:06] how r u [07:07] need help on ubuntu server [07:07] 9.10 and 10.04 [07:08] hi naduser_ [07:08] just ask your question, someone will evetually help you (: Patience is a virtue [07:08] ok [07:09] i need to know how to configure a squid proxy server [07:09] i want to configure it as a transparent proxy [07:09] and also i want to monitor real time network traffic [07:09] passing the proxy [07:10] naduser_: is there a reason you want to use squid? [07:13] hello? [07:13] naduser_: poke [07:14] naduser_: well for sh...and giggles: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-setup-transparent-proxy-squid-howto.html [07:15] naduser_: jsut fyi squid is niffty but uses more resources than it should [07:16] there is no special reason [07:16] naduser_: you get that linky up there ^^ [07:16] but is there any other proxy software available [07:16] i mean open source [07:16] software [07:16] naduser_: heck yea [07:17] well heck check the repos if your just looking for a proxy [07:18] and also i need to implemnt aubuntu samba server [07:18] in a windows domain environment [07:19] i need to know the authenticate methods [07:19] available [07:19] to authenticate windows domain users [07:19] when they connect to samab shares [07:19] you ever look into AD? [07:19] oh wait...samba shares? [07:20] yes [07:20] hrm, you want to setup multiple samba shares then make users authenticate to them? [07:20] previously i configured a samba server and add it to windows ad [07:21] i would figure that active directory would be your best bet, unless im not following how samba works [07:21] previously i configured a SAMBA server and configured to authenticate users from the windows AD [07:22] so they could use their same domain user account [07:22] heck running a proxy/filtering with iptables and using key authentication (ie: kerberos) will give you some good starting grounds [07:22] and password when they connect to shares on the samba [07:22] server [07:22] but i want to know is there any other [07:22] method [07:23] where i can allow users to set their own password [07:23] and access the samba shares [07:25] naduser_: this what you looking for?? http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/200381/unix_active_directory_software_faster.html [07:26] what is an open LDAP server?? [07:27] :| [07:27] ?? [07:27] naduser_: fun time: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=LDAP+server [07:28] ldap is pretty niffty [07:28] naduser_: basis to get you started: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAPClientAuthentication [07:28] i need a bot to do all this link work for me! [07:30] wht do u mean [07:30] i didnt get u [07:32] naduser_: nothing, just an irc joke! [07:32] lol [07:33] haha stlsaint (: [07:33] i try i try [07:33] funny im working on two irc bots atm [07:33] we could use one of the ubuntu bots [07:33] hey guys whts a bot?? [07:34] oh, i guess that's what you're doing (: [07:34] Puck`: not quite [07:34] oh, sorry then :P [07:35] Puck`: a bot but wont be used here i doubt! [07:35] Puck`: this channel is pretty high maintenance! [07:35] Puck`: only certified bots allowed :( [07:35] stlsaint: as far as I saw, there were some emails about some bots I guess .. [07:35] can anyone tel me what a bot is? [07:36] naduser_: a bot is a robot, an application that connects to irc and does some custom commands for various purposes [07:36] it's an automated service, or half-automated, because it runs with commands [07:37] ohh [07:37] i c [07:38] oh, i thought you were playing when you was asking that [07:38] no no [07:39] im new to IRC chating [07:39] stlsaint: what type of bot? [07:39] today is my first time [07:39] naduser_: then, welcome to the fun (: [07:39] thank you [07:39] naduser_: oh, sorry than [07:39] its ok [07:39] Puck`: an irc bot but with better features [07:40] stlsaint: written in which lang? (: [07:40] python [07:41] oh, okay. I gotta check out these python irc bots, I only managed to run and manage tcl eggdrops [07:42] aye, eggdrops took to much compiling for my low level of patience [07:42] tcl was annoying for me [07:42] plus i need to learn better programming so...... [07:42] start from scratch and all is well! :D [07:43] ((: [07:43] I guess i had the patience for them since I didn't know any programming 8 years ago [07:50] yea im trying to learn so a more hands on approach is needed === zkriesse is now known as Guest97739 === Guest97739 is now known as zkriesse [08:25] hi [08:25] anyone there [08:26] maybe :p [08:26] need some help on open lDAP [08:26] not something i'm familiar with.. [08:26] ohh [08:27] i just want to whether open LDAP server and a domain controller is the same thing\or 2 different [08:27] servers [08:27] sorta with differences..... [08:28] ldap is more geared toward authentications where as a domain controller is just that...a domain controller, it can be configured to do many things.... [08:28] naduser_: have you ever managed a domain with AD? [08:28] yes [08:28] server 2003 [08:28] aye, good choice :D [08:28] so some reading up on ldap should give you a good handling on it :D [08:29] so is it possible to use an open LDAP server in a windows server 2003 network [08:29] just as a stand alone open LDAP authentication server [08:29] just to authenticate samba users [08:31] samba i dont know but yes it can be used in AD for authentication! [08:32] so i would say yes [08:33] so usually can you tel me some instances where open LDAP servers are used for authentication [08:34] um whenever you want to [08:34] you would have to assign roles in AD to filter authentication...simple enough on windows side at least! [08:34] i mean in a windows 2003 network i guess there is no need to install an open LDAP server [08:35] cos all the authentication could be done from the primary windows DC [08:35] ryt [08:35] not really if you dont have to [08:35] unless you are merging two already full production environments i wouldnt see the need to *setup* a ldap server in a windows environment [08:36] why [08:36] yes that DC can handle authentication, now if your working on a very large scale than i would suggest setting up seperate kerberos server and having DC authenticate against it [08:38] naduser_: how big a environment are you working with? [08:38] its a medium size netork [08:39] with around 60 to 65 computers [08:39] i was actually looking for number of clients to be honest :D [08:39] oh ok [08:39] computers [08:39] 60 to 65 [08:40] and with 2 windows 2003 [08:40] servers [08:40] well thats small for a windows AD so it can easily handle anything else [08:40] which is why i would say that setting up ldap wouldnt necessarily be required [08:40] yes [08:40] but [08:40] i know [08:41] we do have a problem [08:41] here we have only [08:41] 2 server 2003 [08:41] computers [08:41] one is used as the PDC and the mail server [08:41] and the other as a sharepoint server [08:41] ooohh sharepoint :D [08:42] so since we have only 2 servers we dont have enough licences [08:42] to configure a file [08:42] server [08:42] so i thought of installing a SAMBA [08:42] file server [08:42] as asolution [08:42] why not just add a role as a file server to that PDC? [08:43] because it creates more traffice [08:43] :| [08:43] because our servers are in out head office [08:44] and if we create file sharing on one of those servers [08:44] with 60 computers you cant be creating that much traffic to truly slow anything down :D [08:44] no [08:44] i need to implement a file server in our branch office [08:44]