[00:14] <LaserJock> hi TheMuso
[00:14] <TheMuso> Hey LaserJock.
[00:15] <LaserJock> TheMuso: how you been?
[00:15] <TheMuso> LaserJock: Busy, but well thanks. Yourself?
[00:16] <LaserJock> TheMuso: similar. Too busy with real life to do much *buntu'ing
[00:18] <LaserJock> TheMuso: you have lots of work items this cycle?
[00:19] <TheMuso> LaserJock: No, but general ongoing work for audio, and some work with the accessibility community that ties in somewhat with accessibility improvements for Ubuntu.
[00:20] <LaserJock> TheMuso: how is the new stuff Canonical is doing (Unity for instance) doing with accessibility?
[00:20] <TheMuso> LaserJock: Haven't checked, but I don't think its fully accessible.
[00:20] <LaserJock> that was a concern I had with not using GNOME Shell or more gnome-y things
[00:23] <TheMuso> Well gnome-shell in its current incarnation is not accessible yet either.
[00:23] <TheMuso> Although that is supposed to be coming.
[00:26] <LaserJock> right
[00:26] <LaserJock> I just figured it would be easier to pool resources that way
[00:26] <LaserJock> but maybe not
[00:35] <TheMuso> I am no UI person, so not sure.
[01:46] <TheMuso> /c/c
[06:26] <rickspencer3> robert_ancell, TheMuso, RAOF any of you guys still around?
[06:28] <RAOF> Yup.  It's 3:30pm
[06:29] <RAOF> rickspencer3: What's up?
[06:29] <RAOF> Of an early morning.
[06:30] <rickspencer3> Hey RAOF just checking on timing
[06:30] <RAOF> :)
[06:30] <rickspencer3> I'm up and sorta' at 'em
[06:36] <rickspencer3> not much point in getting up early here, all my meetings are in the evening :/
[06:36] <RAOF> At least it's still light in the evening for you :)
[06:37] <rickspencer3> RAOF, it's crazy, still light at like 11pm
[06:37] <RAOF> Mmmm, north north north!
[06:37] <TheMuso> rickspencer3: yep just got back from installing maverick
[06:38] <rickspencer3> TheMuso, glad to see you back then!
[06:39] <robert_ancell> rickspencer3, hey
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[07:17] <rickspencer3> RAOF, still around?
[07:18] <RAOF> Yup.
[07:18] <rickspencer3> bug #578673
[07:18] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 578673 in linux (Ubuntu) "[arrandale] Resume doesn't work on a Latitude E6410 (affects: 20) (dups: 2) (heat: 109)" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/578673
[07:19] <RAOF> Ah, my old friend the arrandale GPU.
[07:19] <rickspencer3> RAOF, I assigned to you because it looked related to xorg based on my cursory look
[07:19] <rickspencer3> can you please re-assign as appropriate if you are not the right person?
[07:20] <RAOF> I shall.
[07:20] <RAOF> It's probably a kernel problem, they always are :)
[07:21] <rickspencer3> thanks RAOF
[07:24] <RAOF> Hm.  I wonder if that's the “Doesn't turn the backlight back on” bug that's recently been fixed.
[07:29] <RAOF> Nah, probably not.
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[07:49] <robert_ancell> TheMuso, can you upload my sane-backends PPA to lucid-proposed? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/51396645/sane-backends_1.0.20-13ubuntu2_1.0.21-0ubuntu1.debdiff
[07:51] <TheMuso> robert_ancell: sure
[07:54] <TheMuso> robert_ancell: I don't see a bug number in the changelog for that debdiff.
[07:55] <robert_ancell> TheMuso, right, can you add the bug number (600516) or do you want me to make a new debdiff?
[07:55] <TheMuso> robert_ancell: I can add it
[07:56] <robert_ancell> TheMuso, thanks
[08:00] <didrocks> good morning
[08:01] <and471> morning
[08:03] <mvo> good morning didrocks and and471
[08:03] <and471> :)
[08:03] <didrocks> hey mvo, how was your week-end?
[08:03] <mvo> didrocks: nice (and hot!)
[08:03] <mvo> (in the weather sense of the word only of course ;)
[08:05] <mvo> and yours?
[08:06] <rickspencer3> hi mvo and didrocks
[08:06] <didrocks> mvo: was great too :) Fortunately, some rain this week-end which enables having a tolerable temperature this morning :)
[08:07] <didrocks> good morning rickspencer3, welcome to Europe time :)
[08:07] <rickspencer3> thanks didrocks
[08:07] <didrocks> how was your travel?
[08:07] <rickspencer3> unfortunately, I have a crappy connection in my house :/
[08:07] <rickspencer3> didrocks, just fine, though yesterday my whole family and I got royally sunburned
[08:08] <mvo> hey rickspencer3
[08:08] <rickspencer3> hi mvo
[08:08] <rickspencer3> I have moved to Europe for a couple of weeks so I can nag you throughout the day about software-center
[08:08] <rickspencer3> I thought it would help
[08:09] <mvo> *weehhh*
[08:09] <mvo> (translated: "sure, I'm certain this will help")
[08:09] <didrocks> mvo: run run! :-)
[08:10] <mvo> rickspencer3: where do you stay ? in france?
[08:10] <rickspencer3> mvo, we are staying in Kijkduin ... which is a beach near Den Haag
[08:11] <kiwinote> ah, just around the corner from here (well 45mins bike ride)
[08:11] <TheMuso> robert_ancell: you subscribed ubuntu-sru?
[08:11] <mvo> rickspencer3: woah, that looks very nice
[08:11] <rickspencer3> mvo, well ... it always looks nice on their web site ;)
[08:11] <rickspencer3> it's a nice place for a family
[08:12] <mvo> rickspencer3: especially in a weather like this. a really long beach afa maps.g.c shows
[08:12]  * mvo waves to kiwinote
[08:12] <kiwinote> hi mvo
[08:12] <robert_ancell> TheMuso, I was going to wait for it to be uploaded
[08:12] <mvo> kiwinote: did you get my mail? the foundations work (p-apt and gdebi) are all merged now
[08:12] <TheMuso> robert_ancell: ok
[08:12] <kiwinote> mvo: thanks for that
[08:13] <TheMuso> robert_ancell: uploaded
[08:13]  * TheMuso -> EOD
[08:13] <rickspencer3> mvo, yeah, really long beach, the kids are happy to live here for a couple of weeks
[08:13] <kiwinote> mvo: atm I am getting the gdebi stuff working with the appdetailsview-gtk branch
[08:13] <rickspencer3> hi kiwinote
[08:13] <rickspencer3> bye TheMuso
[08:13] <rickspencer3> kiwinote, I'll be around all next week if you want to get together for a beer or something
[08:13]  * rickspencer3 leaves for London tomorrow
[08:14] <and471> london baby yeah!
[08:14] <kiwinote> rickspencer3: yeah, sounds good, just ping me next week sometime
[08:18] <and471> robert_ancell, where did you get the idea for lightdm? (webkit greeter?)
[08:18] <and471> it is a great idea!
[08:19] <robert_ancell> and471, the webkit greeter part of it?  I wanted a flexible themeing system and didn't want to write it myself.  Other projects seem to be using webkit for this (metacity was considering somthing similar for theming; gwibber, software-center use it)
[08:20] <and471> robert_ancell, well I shall definitely have a look
[08:20] <and471> :)
[08:21] <robert_ancell> and471, please do!  Patches and feedback welcome :)
[08:51] <and471> robert_ancell, is the webkit greeter meant to work?
[08:52] <robert_ancell> and471, yes...
[08:53] <robert_ancell> and471, is it not?
[08:53] <and471> robert_ancell, hehe, when I run it I get the error...
[08:53] <seb128> hello there
[08:53] <robert_ancell> seb128, hey
[08:53] <seb128> hey robert_ancell
[08:53] <seb128> how are you?
[08:53] <and471> robert_ancell, sorry when I click MY label, I get the error ** Message: console message: file:///usr/share/lightdm/themes/webkit/index.html @96: TypeError: Result of expression 'label' [null] is not an object.
[08:53] <and471> robert_ancell, :( webkit is not very useful when it comes to debugging error messages...
[08:54] <robert_ancell> and471, that's in the .deb? I though I'd fixed that, I must need to respin the debs
[08:54] <robert_ancell> seb128, sore, been skiing this weekend :)
[08:56] <pitti> wow, skiing!
[08:56] <seb128> robert_ancell, but it's summer! ;-)
[08:56]  * pitti was baking in the sun at > 30 degrees
[08:56] <pitti> clearly the only reasonable thing to do was swimming and idling :)
[08:57] <robert_ancell> and471, compare the index.html code to http://people.ubuntu.com/~robert-ancell/lightdm/greeter.html or bzr
[09:00] <and471> robert_ancell, compared to http://people.ubuntu.com/~robert-ancell/lightdm/greeter.html
[09:01] <and471> robert_ancell, --- index.html	2010-07-05 09:00:00.392065551 +0100
[09:01] <and471> +++ /usr/share/lightdm/themes/webkit/index.html	2010-07-01 07:20:08.000000000 +0100
[09:01] <and471> @@ -14,10 +14,6 @@
[09:01] <and471>  }
[09:01] <and471>  
[09:01] <and471>  </style>
[09:01] <and471> -
[09:01] <and471> -<script type="text/javascript" src="http://people.ubuntu.com/~robert-ancell/lightdm/lightdm.js">
[09:01] <and471> -</script>
[09:01] <and471> -
[09:01] <and471>  <script type="text/javascript">
[09:01] <and471>  
[09:01] <and471>  password_prompt = false;
[09:01] <and471> ah sorry
[09:01] <and471> should have used pastebin
[09:03] <and471> robert_ancell, any ideas?
[09:03] <robert_ancell> and471, I fixed it on head - it's due to you not having a timed user configured http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~robert-ancell/lightdm/trunk/revision/102
[09:03] <and471> ah
[09:03] <and471> I shall grab the latest branch
[09:03] <robert_ancell> and471, thanks for spotting
[09:03] <and471> robert_ancell, np :)
[09:04] <and471> robert_ancell, I think I might break out the jquery
[09:04] <and471> :)
[09:04] <robert_ancell> gtg, catch you all tomorrow
[09:04] <and471> see ya
[09:04] <robert_ancell> and471, nice, I don't have mad HTML/JS skills so please feed back any improvements that can be made to the API/documentation
[09:04] <and471> sure
[09:07] <huats> morning
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=== almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan
[09:33] <pitti> seb128: do you think we should reenable apport by default now?
[09:34] <pitti> the Debian merge window is over, and I think the dust settled a bit now
[09:35] <seb128> pitti, do we have retracers set for maverick now?
[09:36] <pitti> seb128: I'll set them up now if you agree with enabling it
[09:36] <seb128> I would try yes
[09:36] <pitti> ok, doing that then
[09:36] <seb128> we can still turn it off if that turns to be extra work rather than useful
[09:37] <seb128> it would at least give us a round of feedback on current crash issues
[09:37] <seb128> pitti, thanks
[09:52] <pitti> seb128: FYI we currently have 46 "apport-crash maverick" bugs
[09:52] <pitti> I guess most of them will be invalid by now
[09:52] <seb128> pitti, right
[09:52] <pitti> (i. e. broken retrace)
[09:57] <rickspencer3> hi pitti and seb128
[09:57] <pitti> hey rickspencer3; welcome to Eu "melt away" rope
[09:58] <ogra> heh
[09:58] <pitti> rickspencer3: how was your trip?
[09:58] <seb128> hey rickspencer3
[09:58] <pitti> they promised rain today, and it again won't come, bah
[09:58] <seb128> weird to see you on european time ;-)
[09:58] <ogra> they promised rain yesterday already
[09:58] <seb128> rickspencer3, how are you? had a nice trip to .nl? ;-)
[09:58] <ogra> only bavaria got some
[09:58] <rickspencer3> seb128, pitti yes, traveling was fine
[09:58] <pitti> ogra: but unlike yesterday I don't have the Senftenberg lake right beside me today :-/
[09:59] <rickspencer3> was a tourist yesterday, and suffered a righteous sunburn
[09:59] <ogra> pitti, cold water buckets under your desk help ;)
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[10:00] <seb128> rickspencer3, did you arrive on time to join the party after the soccer game? ;-)
[10:01] <rickspencer3> seb128, we were here for the game
[10:01] <rickspencer3> quite fun
[10:01] <rickspencer3> sadly, I will be traveling tomorrow evening :,(
[10:01] <pitti> oh, where?
[10:01] <rickspencer3> pitti, I'm in NL
[10:01] <pitti> rickspencer3: you are in .nl now, right?
[10:02] <rickspencer3> pitti, yes
[10:02] <rickspencer3> working from here until the sprint
[10:03] <seb128> let's see who wins the cup, Netherland or Germany
[10:03] <pitti> seb128: is there a question? :-)
[10:03] <ogra> you dont think uruguay could make it ?
[10:03] <seb128> pitti, you think it will be the Netherlands as well? ;-)
[10:03]  * seb128 runs
[10:03]  * ogra is more scared that uruguay gets through, they play unpredictable
[10:03] <rickspencer3> seb128, well ... Friday night made Germany look quite the winners
[10:03] <pitti> Saturday's game was awesome, I hope they keep their current performance
[10:03] <ogra> yeah
[10:04] <pitti> they just ruined expectations, with 4 goals in every game :)
[10:04] <rickspencer3> oops, that was Sat? man, my schedule is all scrambled
[10:04] <ogra> we all need to be very friendly to randa now
[10:04] <seb128> ogra, I like the nertherland team, would be nice to see them win this one, they would deserve it, they have not been really lucky in 1998 and 2006 while they played really well
[10:04]  * rickspencer3 wonders if he can change schedule to be in town on Tuesday
[10:05] <ogra> seb128, if the german team keeps that performance .nl wont have a chance
[10:05] <pitti> ogra: but they have their bad days as well
[10:05] <ogra> yep
[10:05] <pitti> so, let the best win
[10:05] <ogra> thus the "if" i started the sentence with :)
[10:05] <rickspencer3> exactly, teams at this level, anyone has a good chance of beating anyone else in one specific game
[10:06] <pitti> rickspencer3: right, at this level it's mostly luck and psychology
[10:06] <rickspencer3> mmmm
[10:06] <rickspencer3> "largely" perhaps, but "mostly"?
[10:06] <seb128> ogra, let's see ;-)
[10:06] <pitti> Germany beats Ghaha, Ghana beats Serbia, Serbia beats Germany
[10:06] <pitti> there's no logic in this :)
[10:06]  * ogra thinks there is some 
[10:06] <rickspencer3> we call that ro sham bo
[10:08] <pitti> rickspencer3: ?
[10:09] <rickspencer3> pitti, rock, paper, scissors
[10:09] <rickspencer3> a > b > c > a
[10:09] <pitti> seb128: retracers running again, with maverick chroots; however, they were stuck for some time, so have some catch-up to do
[10:09] <rickspencer3> common in sports and also in board games and video games ;)
[10:09] <pitti> rickspencer3: ah :)
[10:09] <seb128> pitti, you rock, thanks!
[10:09] <jpds> We could just ask http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/10420131.stm .
[10:10] <ogra> jpds, thats on german tv before each game :)
[10:10] <ogra> and paul was nearly always right :)
[10:10] <pitti> lol
[10:10] <pitti> I've never seen that one
[10:11] <pitti> on the camping site we fiddled with our DVB-T antenna until 15:58
[10:11] <ogra> they also have an african juju woman predicting the amount of goals for each side
[10:11] <pitti> the local pub was already overcrowded
[10:12] <ogra> for the england game she said, "germany will shoot at least 3 goals, for england, while i see one goal there will be something very problematinc with the game"
[10:12]  * ogra found that impressive in the light of the game afterwards
[10:14] <pitti> ogra: sounds better than the referees anyway :-P
[10:14] <ogra> lol
[10:27] <Laney> do you want the tomboy dev releases in maverick?
[10:37] <seb128> Laney, I've nothing against it if they are not going to hard depends on gtk3 by the end of this cycle
[12:07] <rickspencer3> chrisccoulson, hey
[12:08] <chrisccoulson> hi rickspencer3
[12:08] <rickspencer3> chrisccoulson, so, no world melting bugs from Hardy/Jaunty?
[12:08] <chrisccoulson> i think you mean hardy / lucid ;)
[12:08] <rickspencer3> oops
[12:08] <rickspencer3> yes, correct
[12:08] <chrisccoulson> we had a hardy upgrade bug which we fixed quickly, due to conflicts with the older firefox 2 package on hardy
[12:09] <rickspencer3> yeah
[12:09] <rickspencer3> saw that
[12:09] <rickspencer3> totally resolved now, though, correct?
[12:09] <chrisccoulson> yeah, that ones fixed now
[12:09] <chrisccoulson> rickspencer3, there was also bug 600642, which is now fixed too
[12:09] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 600642 in sun-java6 (Ubuntu Hardy) (and 1 other project) "[Hardy] Firefox upgrade to 3.6.6 breaks Java plugin (affects: 4) (dups: 2) (heat: 30)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/600642
[12:10] <chrisccoulson> and we seem to be getting quite a few people report flash plugin crashes on hardy and lucid, but i've not been able to recreate that yet
[12:11] <rickspencer3> hmmm
[12:12] <chrisccoulson> other than that, there haven't really been that many bugs reported
[12:15] <rickspencer3> chrisccoulson, awesome!
[12:15] <pitti> hey chrisccoulson, how are you? did you find some rest on the weekend after that hectic week?
[12:17] <chrisccoulson> pitti - i had a little bit of rest, but it was still quite a busy weekend for me. i've got quite a lot of people coming round on saturday for a garden party, so there's lots of preparation for me to do
[12:18] <chrisccoulson> pitti - how are you anyway?
[12:18] <pitti> chrisccoulson: melting, but fine; had a great relaxing weekend with tenting, swimming, and idling :)
[12:19] <chrisccoulson> pitti - is the weather quite hot where you are?
[12:19] <pitti> ugh yes, for over a week now
[12:19] <pitti> over the weekend we had some 32 degrees or so
[12:20] <chrisccoulson> heh, that's quite warm. it's cooled down a little bit here thankfully, although it's still warm
[12:20] <chrisccoulson> we could do with some rainfall though ;)
[12:20] <seb128> it's better there as well today
[12:20] <chrisccoulson> our garden is like a desert ;)
[12:20] <chrisccoulson> hey seb128, did you have a good weekend?
[12:21] <seb128> hey chrisccoulson, yes, quite relaxing, with that heat no way to do a lot
[12:21]  * pitti lunch &
[12:21] <seb128> chrisccoulson, it seems you kept busy as usual ;-) did you enjoy the garden party at least?
[12:21]  * seb128 just back from lunch but making coffee
[12:22] <chrisccoulson> seb128 - we haven't had the party just yet. that will be next weekend
[12:22] <chrisccoulson> but i have a lot to do to prepare for it this week
[12:22] <seb128> oh ok
[12:22] <chrisccoulson> i'm hoping the weather stays nice ;)
[12:23]  * baptistemm asks for rain
[12:23] <chrisccoulson> i wouldn't mind some rain this week, just as long as it stops before the weekend ;)
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[12:31] <lamalex> didrocks: did you file a bug report with banshee for that? I seem to remember that I had asked you to but I didn't save the link
[12:32] <didrocks> lamalex: no, I didn't take the time, I can do if you want but as you did the work it will be more fair that you post the patch… :)
[12:33] <lamalex> I'm happy to post the patch, but can you file the initial bug?
[12:33]  * lamalex *hates* gnome bugzilla
[12:34] <didrocks> lamalex: sure, doing that :)
[12:35] <lamalex> just so you'll be cc'd when the status on the patch changes
[12:36] <didrocks> lamalex: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=623590 is yours
[12:36] <ubot2> Gnome bug 623590 in User Interface "Help user in showing how to import music into banshee" [Normal,Unconfirmed]
[12:37] <lamalex> merci beaucoup
[12:37] <didrocks> lamalex: mais de rien :)
[12:37] <didrocks> lamalex: thanks to you for the patch
[12:42] <lamalex> didrocks: took 10 minutes, not a thing. Happy to help
[13:04] <fta2> seb128, is bug 601494 linked to the recent cairo bug?
[13:04] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 601494 in chromium-browser (Debian) (and 2 other projects) "Favicon in tabs appears as a flickering square while page loads (affects: 5) (heat: 28)" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/601494
[13:04] <seb128> fta2, what cairo bug?
[13:05] <seb128> fta2, I don't know about a similar bug in cairo no
[13:05] <fta2> i mean, it started a few days ago, for maverick users only
[13:05] <fta2> could be gtk
[13:06] <seb128> fta2, could be an issue with the new cairo yes
[13:06] <seb128> I don't use chromium so I don't know
[13:06] <seb128> gtk didn't change recently
[13:07] <fta2> hm
[13:07] <Sarvatt> yeah its a chromium and cairo problem
[13:09] <Sarvatt> i think ickle said he had a patch for chromium to fix it, something about damage tracking with the bitmaps skia is using for the tabstrip
[13:10] <seb128> hey Sarvatt
[13:10] <seb128> Sarvatt, I got cairo 1.9 in maverick now, thanks for your work getting the lcdfilter change upstream ;-)
[13:12] <fta2> Sarvatt, could please add a comment in the bug?
[13:12] <Sarvatt> I saw when I got the update awhile back, awesome that we can just sync it from debian now :) this chromium problem has been bugging me since moving to 1.9.x too, tabs disappear when you open enough to make it resize to where the tab is small enough to not show the favicon too
[13:12] <Sarvatt> yeah have to reboot but i'll dig through my logs, brb
[13:28] <pitti> finally! rain!
[13:28] <ogra> lucky you
[13:28] <seb128> bah, openjdk and linux builds = no other build today...
[13:28] <ogra> seb128, sorry ... my fault ...
[13:29] <ogra> seb128, the worst is that the armel fix i uploaded java for doesnt actually fix it :(
[13:29] <seb128> "nice" ;-)
[13:30] <seb128> we should always have one builder not taking build going over half an hour
[13:30] <seb128> to avoid DoS the buildds this way ;-)
[13:30] <ogra> ++
[13:30] <ogra> or dedictaed builders for a certain set of packages
[13:31] <seb128> or start by teching people to not upload openjdk during the work hours :p
[13:31] <seb128> ie upload in the evening so it can build overnight ;-)
[13:31] <pitti> seb128: we should just have more buildds
[13:31] <pitti> they keep being a bottleneck
[13:32] <seb128> or that yes
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[13:44] <alf__> didrocks: Hi! I saw that you upgraded clutter to 1.2.10. Are these changes going to land in lp:ubuntu/clutter-1.0?
[13:45] <didrocks> alf__: yeah, lp:ubuntu/clutter-1.0 is automcommited if you don't update there directly
[13:45] <didrocks> so you will still be fine with your branch :)
[13:52] <alf__> didrocks: I am actually interested in that branch getting updated so I can branch from it :)
[13:53] <didrocks> alf__: should be soon enough, I guess
[13:53] <alf__> didrocks: ok, thanks :)
[13:54] <didrocks> alf__: no pb, and ping me when remaining things will be fixed and seen with upstream
[13:54] <didrocks> alf__: just note that I won't be available (apart by email) until next week starting tomorrow
[13:57] <alf__> didrocks: Sure, although my main problem is getting debian folks to respond about what they think about the packaging changes.
[13:59] <didrocks> alf__: try to ping pochu or kov in #debian-gnome on OFTC
[13:59] <alf__> didrocks: Will do, thanks
[14:10] <alf__> didrocks: By the way, have a nice vacation :)
[14:10] <didrocks> alf__: not really vacations, more FLOSS French event presence but thanks :)
[14:12] <seb128> didrocks, oh, not vacations, you have better doing your weekly updates then! ;-)
[14:12] <didrocks> seb128: I proposed to you do to them, that can still apply :-)
[14:12] <seb128> lol
[14:14] <didrocks> seb128: note that if the release is too late (> 6PM), I'll be with an awesome 3G connexion from my phone, with all ports blocked and feel the pain :)
[14:19] <lamalex> didrocks: are there any cool french floss events going on in early august?
[14:21] <didrocks> lamalex: no, it's early June, that is to say, from tomorrow (http://2010.rmll.info/spip.php?lang=en). This is the only "big" general FLOSS event in France
[14:21] <didrocks> apart from the Ubuntu Party, of course :-)
[14:21] <lamalex> :)
[14:25] <lamalex> didrocks: will you be at guadec?
[14:25] <didrocks> lamalex: yes, you?
[14:25] <lamalex> I will! I look forward to meeting you
[14:26] <didrocks> sweet, that will be nice meeting you :)
[14:26] <didrocks> lamalex: FYI, pushed your patch and others in maverick
[14:26] <didrocks> just miss the hal-free branch to be officially blessed and the MIR for main for banshee :)
[14:27] <lamalex> ftw!
[14:27] <lamalex> for the hal-free branch, we're just waiting for Bertrand to sort out the build system fixes to install the extra libs (which need packaging themselves I guess) and for review
[14:29] <lamalex> I'll look into packaging gkeyfile-sharp and gudev-sharp today
[14:29] <lamalex> I would be nice if I could get it all into a ppa for people to test
[14:30]  * lamalex puts on his debian gloves
[14:30] <lamalex> heh, I mean "it would be nice"
[14:30] <didrocks> lamalex: do not hesitate to ask for help when needed :)
[14:44] <seb128> ogra, so is your openjdk upload useless?
[14:44] <seb128> ogra, will you do another one?
[14:47] <ogra> seb128, not before i havent talked to doko
[14:47] <seb128> ok
[14:48] <ogra> the fix is supposed to fix FTBFS but java depends on ca-certs which in turn uses java to set up the serts
[14:48] <ogra> *certs
[14:48] <ogra> the former build segfaults when running keytool so i cant build a new openjdk at all :/
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[15:46] <kiwinote> mvo: if for instance universe is disabled, then we don't have a way of knowing if a pkg without a desktop file is available in universe, do we?
[15:46] <kiwinote> mvo: so if we get an apturl request for apt:pkg_in_universe?section=universe or apt:pkg_not_in_universe?section=universe, then we show the enable component button in both cases, despite the spec wanting us to display an error in the second case?
[15:58] <mvo> kiwinote: the spec is wrong then. there is no way to know before we added universe (unless we would do something like remove-query, but that would still not give us dependency info)
[15:59] <kiwinote> mvo: ok, thanks
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[18:32] <desrt> seb128: hey?
[18:32] <seb128> desrt, hello
[18:32] <desrt> what are your control centre plans this cycle?
[18:32] <seb128> desrt, none
[18:33] <seb128> keep what we have basically
[18:33] <desrt> vino has a patch filed against it to convert it
[18:33] <desrt> so i guess that would ruin your day
[18:34] <seb128> desrt, it wouldn't since we didn't plan to update vino either
[18:34] <seb128> desrt, we don't plan to pull any new version of things that would pull us in a transition we don't want
[18:35] <seb128> we will probably make calls on what we update later on in the cycle depending on what those update implies
[18:35] <desrt> i see.
[18:35] <seb128> between d-conf (which is fine), gtk3, and other changes like this one
[18:36] <seb128> d-conf being fine but avoid upgrading things using shared keys
[18:36] <seb128> ie gnome-control-center
[18:36] <seb128> we will likely have an updated platform and some selected softwares
[18:36] <seb128> ie empathy, gnome-games
[18:41] <pitti> good night everyone
[18:43] <seb128> 'night pitti
[19:23] <bcurtiswx3> seb128: do you know what package includes glib-compile-schemas ? its one of the new ones, but idk where it is
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[19:32] <chrisccoulson> bcurtiswx3, libglib2.0-bin?
[19:37] <seb128> bcurtiswx3, it's libglib2.0-bin
[19:38] <bcurtiswx3> chrisccoulson: seb128, OK Thx I verified that the make worked with that and it did.. I'm building empathy from source to get the latest to test bugs against and it needed that
[19:38] <seb128> ok
[19:39] <seb128> we will get the updated version in maverick this week most likely
[19:39] <bcurtiswx3> seb128: OK, thx
[19:57] <vish> chrisccoulson: hi , can you milestone Bug #530751 for maverick , so that we dont miss it , it has a branch with the reworded dialogue [you might know it too ;)]
[19:57] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 530751 in gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) ""Battery Discharging" is a horribly worded message (affects: 4) (heat: 47)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/530751
[20:45] <Sarvatt> soo, openoffice.org-evolution installed /@OOBASISDIR@/registered-components/libevoabli.so?
[20:46] <Sarvatt> seems to be a packaging problem there
[20:47] <seb128> indeed
[20:48] <chrisccoulson> mdeslaur, could i have a USN for firefox 3.6.7?
[20:48] <seb128> chrisccoulson, yet another firefox?
[20:49] <chrisccoulson> oops, wrong channel ;)
[20:49] <chrisccoulson> seb128 - yeah, we have the first build for 3.6.7
[20:49] <chrisccoulson> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.6.7build1/releasenotes/
[20:49] <seb128> bah
[20:50] <seb128> chrisccoulson, there is two openjdk builds again now
[20:50] <mdeslaur> chrisccoulson: sure, hold on
[20:50] <chrisccoulson> seb128 - oh, they've not finished yet?
[20:50] <seb128> will you guys stop rebuilding openjdk again and again so we can get some normal build going on?
[20:51] <seb128> chrisccoulson, no, we got no ubuntu build today :-(
[20:51] <mdeslaur> chrisccoulson: USN-957-1
[20:51] <chrisccoulson> seb128 - perhaps i should not upload FF3.6.7 just yet ;)
[20:51] <chrisccoulson> mdeslaur, thanks
[20:52] <seb128> chrisccoulson, the jaunty openjdk built just started
[20:52] <seb128> chrisccoulson, go for it, I've stopped waiting for builds today now ;-)
[20:53] <chrisccoulson> seb128 - hopefully they will free up a bit soon ;)
[21:18] <loneowais_> hey guys, i need some help with the messaging menu api.
[21:19] <loneowais_> how do i get the menu to into it
[21:22] <lamalex> loneowais_: you put a file in /usr/share/indicators/messages/applications/ that has the path to your application's desktop file
[21:23] <lamalex> look at the empathy or gwibber one as an example
[21:23] <loneowais_> lamalex: i know the file thing
[21:23] <loneowais_> but what about the menu items. they dont appear
[21:23] <lamalex> ah
[21:24] <lamalex> loneowais_: via libindicate, should be the same as your application indicator i beleive
[21:25] <lamalex> but your type should be set to messaging
[21:25] <loneowais_> right,
[21:25] <loneowais_> im doing python. so i would have to use appindicator module
[21:25] <loneowais_> ?
[21:25] <loneowais_> which i'm using right now.
[21:26] <loneowais_> but it doesnt have an messaging type
[21:26] <loneowais_> it has communications
[21:26] <loneowais_> which doesn't work either
[21:36] <lamalex> loneowais_: you're using python-indicate?
[21:36] <loneowais_> no
[21:36] <loneowais_> appindicator
[21:36] <lamalex> python-indicate is what you want
[21:36] <loneowais_> oh
[21:37] <loneowais_> thanks a lot mate
[21:37] <loneowais_> let me try it
[21:37] <loneowais_> thanks
[21:37] <lamalex> no problem, ping me if you have any questions
[21:37] <loneowais_> sure
[21:43] <loneowais_> lamalex: Thanks man, that seems to work.
[21:44] <lamalex> cool beans dude