[00:28] <zkriesse> mdke: are you available?
[03:56] <zkriesse> HAPPY FOURTH!
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[09:23] <epic93> Hello.
[21:09] <tyarusso> Can anyone recommend a good book for learning DocBook?
[21:10] <j1mc> tyarusso: http://www.docbook.org/tdg5/
[21:11] <tyarusso> ah, excellent
[21:11] <j1mc> tyarusso: that book covers docbook v.5, where ubuntu docs are still on docbook v.4, but *most* of the syntax carries over.
[21:13] <j1mc> tyarusso: this one covers docbook 4, which is what ubuntu uses: http://www.docbook.org/tdg/en/html/docbook.html
[21:14] <j1mc> the schema for docbook was completely rewritten from docbook 4 to docbook 5, but much of the basic syntax remains the same.
[21:14] <j1mc> let us know if you have questions
[21:19] <ddecator> so i was going to ask philbull, but since he's not here maybe someone else can help. i want to apply the "headers" used on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad to the other bugsquad pages since they look nicer. however, since they aren't real headers, that messes up the TOB. someone in #moin suggested i change the theme's css so headers appear that way. are we able/allowed to change the theme for ubuntu pages?
[21:22] <j1mc> ddecator: what is a TOB?
[21:23] <ddecator> j1mc: Table of Contents
[21:26] <j1mc> ddecator: i'm a bit unclear on what you mean by the headers.  do you mean the "bugsquad" "todo list"... items toward the top?
[21:27] <ddecator> j1mc: no, the "What is the Bug Squad?" "Contact Us!" "Activities" "Want to Join?"
[21:29] <tyarusso> j1mc: It appears that the tools for working with it are still for DocBook 4 in Lucid as well.
[21:30] <j1mc> ddecator: ok, i think i understand what you're looking to do now. i don't know if we can do it.  matthew east would probably know best.
[21:32] <ddecator> j1mc: ok. i could probably find a way to manually create a table of contents, but then it'd have to be updated each time an area is added or removed. what's matthew east's nick?
[21:32] <j1mc> tyarusso: yeah - ubuntu docs aren't really set up for docbook5 right now.  docbook5 is in the repositories, though.
[21:32] <j1mc> ddecator: it is mdke
[21:32] <ddecator> j1mc: thanks!
[21:34] <tyarusso> j1mc: ah, so it is.
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