| dholbach | good morning | 07:30 |
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| iulian | Good morning Daniel. | 07:45 |
| iulian | Hey DktrKranz. | 07:46 |
| DktrKranz | hey iulian | 07:50 |
| kaushal | hi | 07:58 |
| kaushal | is this the right channel to discuss about pxe image to install ubuntu server on a new server ? | 07:59 |
| Rhonda | I don't think so, but I might be wrong. | 08:03 |
| maxwellian | !#ubuntu-motu | 08:03 |
| maxwellian | :\ | 08:03 |
| maxwellian | kaushal: The topic of this channel is the maintenance of Ubuntu packages and repositories. | 08:06 |
| maxwellian | kaushal: You will probably have more luck in #ubuntu. | 08:06 |
| kaushal | maxwellian, Thanks | 08:07 |
| maxwellian | kaushal: Welcome. | 08:09 |
| huats | morning | 09:07 |
| artfwo | is anyone feeling like looking at a merge bug 601754? (with source package renamed) | 09:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 601754 in Ubuntu "Please merge jackd2 1.9.5~dfsg-15 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/601754 | 09:17 |
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| kaushal | can someone please guide me about my post on https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2010-July/004402.html | 09:44 |
| ara | hello all! what was the ubuntu-dev-tools command to update the maintainers field? | 10:51 |
| soren | update-maintainer :) | 10:52 |
| soren | ara: ^ | 10:52 |
| ara | soren, thanks, I could have guessed that one ;-) | 10:52 |
| soren | ara: no comment :) | 10:53 |
| geser | ara: sorry, that we aren't creative enough to give the scripts obscure names. patches welcome :) | 11:04 |
| lifeless | geser: uum :P | 11:05 |
| freeflyi1g | persia: ping | 11:09 |
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| ryanakca | Whoever last merged a package made all of the changes inline. Is it better to lug around inline patches or can I add quilt to debian/control and manage them there? | 11:56 |
| Laney | don't add a patchsys if there isn't one already | 11:59 |
| soren | It's a matter of taste, really. | 12:00 |
| soren | If there's already a bunch of patches applied "inline", I woulnd't recommend adding quilt to the mix. That would be very confusing. | 12:00 |
| soren | If the package has no patches applied, and you're going to add a bunch, I'd probably use quilt (perhaps by way of a 3.0 (quilt) format source package). | 12:01 |
| soren | The goal is to minimise a) confusion and b) effort to merge the stuff back to Debian. | 12:02 |
| bilalakhtar | Hey there! If I have an Ubuntu.com e-mail address, can I maintain packages in ubuntu? | 12:02 |
| soren | bilalakhtar: Anyone can maintain packages in Ubuntu. | 12:02 |
| Laney | If you mean "can I be the sole uploader", then probably not | 12:02 |
| bilalakhtar | soren: I mean, having Maintainer: set to you in control | 12:03 |
| soren | bilalakhtar: The Maintainer field can (at least in theory) be set to anything. | 12:04 |
| bilalakhtar | soren: ok, read the wiki page, got it | 12:04 |
| soren | bilalakhtar: But other people may still upload the package. | 12:04 |
| bilalakhtar | soren: of course, ^^ is always possible | 12:05 |
| bilalakhtar | Maverick DIF complete? So soon? | 12:05 |
| kaushal | hi | 12:29 |
| kaushal | is there a way to create PXE Netboot image ? | 12:29 |
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| shadeslayer | uh... any ideas on this error : http://pastebin.com/875CDQMj .. im seeing it for the first time ( new upstream release of qtcreator ) | 17:10 |
| micahg | shadeslayer: file in patch no longer exists? | 17:11 |
| shadeslayer | micahg: i removed the patch,same error.... | 17:12 |
| shadeslayer | ( in fact i removed the whole debian/patch folder ) | 17:12 |
| tumbleweed | shadeslayer: the problem isn't with the patches you've got, but with the one it's trying to generate | 17:14 |
| tumbleweed | shadeslayer: my guess is clean is responsible | 17:14 |
| shadeslayer | uh.. ok...so edit the rules file? | 17:15 |
| tumbleweed | well you need to find where that change is coming from | 17:15 |
| shadeslayer | tumbleweed: hm... well i checked the sources and upstream is responsible i think... | 17:16 |
| shadeslayer | there are new symlinks to files... | 17:16 |
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| tumbleweed | shadeslayer: the reason it's generating the patch is because that symlink was created inbetween source extraction and source building | 17:17 |
| tumbleweed | so probably in the clean rule | 17:18 |
| shadeslayer | tumbleweed: what patch? there is no patch ... | 17:18 |
| tumbleweed | shadeslayer: source format 3.0 (quilt) takes all the changes you've made to the source outside /debian, and turns them into a quilt patch | 17:19 |
| shadeslayer | ahh.. but i didnt change anything ... | 17:19 |
| tumbleweed | shadeslayer: but the clean rule gets run before the source package gets built | 17:19 |
| shadeslayer | ah.. so effectively its because clean gets run,that causes changes to the source | 17:26 |
| tumbleweed | my guess is that, yes | 17:26 |
| shadeslayer | hmm.. ill poke this some more... | 17:27 |
| tumbleweed | (btw, when working with 3.0 quilt packages, always check to see that you didn't generate a quilt patch by mistake) | 17:27 |
| shadeslayer | tumbleweed: btw do patches contain info on how many lines have been changed? or just the position of the lines | 17:27 |
| tumbleweed | shadeslayer: man diffstat | 17:28 |
| shadeslayer | tumbleweed: thanks | 17:28 |
| shadeslayer | tumbleweed: btw how long will you be around? | 17:29 |
| tumbleweed | probably all evening | 17:31 |
| shadeslayer | kool :D | 17:31 |
| tumbleweed | (/me shouldn't say that) :) | 17:31 |
| shadeslayer | hehe :D | 17:31 |
| shadeslayer | tumbleweed: lol... i just cleaned out everything and ran debuild again and its working :P | 17:40 |
| tumbleweed | shadeslayer: good. just check that it hasn't generated a debian-changes-foo patch | 17:41 |
| shadeslayer | nope | 17:41 |
| shadeslayer | tumbleweed: btw can you help me with kdepim-runtime? | 17:42 |
| shadeslayer | tumbleweed: oh wait... it just generated a patch | 17:42 |
| shadeslayer | dolphin refresh rates are low i guess.... | 17:42 |
| tumbleweed | ok, you need to stop it generating that patch | 17:43 |
| shadeslayer | tumbleweed: how? | 17:43 |
| tumbleweed | see what's in it, try adn work out where they came from | 17:43 |
| shadeslayer | tumbleweed: http://pastebin.com/8nptsb0i | 17:45 |
| abhi_nav | shadeslayer, you there? | 17:58 |
| tumbleweed | sorry, I timed out for a while there (ZA has big connectivity issues atm). shadeslayer: just delete those two files at teh end of clean? | 17:58 |
| shadeslayer | abhi_nav: yes | 17:58 |
| shadeslayer | tumbleweed: ok | 17:59 |
| shadeslayer | tumbleweed: just using rm -rf debian/patches | 17:59 |
| abhi_nav | I am doint this from motu wiki | 17:59 |
| abhi_nav | sudo pbuilder create --distribution $(lsb_release -cs) \ | 17:59 |
| abhi_nav | > --othermirror "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu $(lsb_release -cs) main restricted universe multiverse" | 17:59 |
| shadeslayer | uh.. | 17:59 |
| shadeslayer | abhi_nav: #ubuntu-packaging | 17:59 |
| abhi_nav | what is this? it is now for long time just retriving each package and validating it | 17:59 |
| tumbleweed | shadeslayer: that's not a fix | 17:59 |
| abhi_nav | shadeslayer, you free to talk naa? | 18:00 |
| shadeslayer | abhi_nav: kinda | 18:00 |
| shadeslayer | tumbleweed: not a fix as in? | 18:00 |
| shadeslayer | you mean i have to find the actuall problem and fix it? oh ok | 18:00 |
| tumbleweed | shadeslayer: deleting the patch after dpkg-source creates it is ugly at best | 18:00 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 18:01 |
| shadeslayer | tumbleweed: btw why does that patch get created? | 18:11 |
| tumbleweed | shadeslayer: source format 3 has debian.tar.gz which only has the contetns of debian. It can't hold changes to other files, like .diff.gz can | 18:12 |
| shadeslayer | ohh.. so it gets converted to a patch... | 18:13 |
| tumbleweed | correct. But it's bad, you should create the patches yourself (and describe them decently in their header) | 18:13 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 18:13 |
| shadeslayer | that reminds me,i have to look at qipmsg as well :P | 18:14 |
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| shadeslayer | tumbleweed: uh.. i think i found the issue | 18:48 |
| shadeslayer | tumbleweed: i was basically renaming the extracted folder.. | 18:48 |
| shadeslayer | so i think that caused the issue... renamed it from qt-creator to qtcreator | 18:49 |
| tumbleweed | glad you found it | 18:50 |
| shadeslayer | tumbleweed: now you will have to sponsor the upload :P | 18:51 |
| shadeslayer | ill just let it run through debuild once.. | 18:52 |
| shadeslayer | after kdepim is done :P | 18:52 |
| tumbleweed | test in a pbuilder if you can | 18:53 |
| shadeslayer | tumbleweed: sure... i can use that too.. its just that qtcreator takes about 90 mins to build :P | 18:53 |
| shadeslayer | i can use debuild -nc if something goes wrong with debuild | 18:53 |
| shadeslayer | not with pbuilder | 18:53 |
| tumbleweed | shadeslayer: /usr/share/doc/pbuilder/examples/C10shell | 18:54 |
| shadeslayer | tumbleweed: the hook that exits to shell? | 18:54 |
| shadeslayer | i have it.. can i run debuild nc with it? | 18:54 |
| tumbleweed | that hook fires up a shell and installs vim so you can look around and try things. not too sure what you are asknig on the second line | 18:56 |
| shadeslayer | tumbleweed: ^^ | 19:00 |
| shadeslayer | oh sorry | 19:00 |
| shadeslayer | tumbleweed: i meant that after i drop to shell,can i run debuild -nc ? | 19:01 |
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| tumbleweed | it's a root shell, and doesn't have devscripts installed, so I noramlly just do debian/rules binary | 19:01 |
| shadeslayer | hm | 19:02 |
| tumbleweed | not qidentical to building in fakeroot, but you can work out what's wrong, test solutions, and then try again | 19:02 |
| tumbleweed | "quite identical" | 19:03 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 19:03 |
| ScottL | chrisccoulson, have you had a chance to consider the gnome-network-admin bug concerning the disabled gui for Ubuntu Studio | 19:55 |
| ScottL | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-tools/+bug/570828 | 19:55 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 570828 in gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) "gnome-network-admin on UbuntuStudio doesnt allow to configure either wired networks or wireless" [High,Triaged] | 19:55 |
| ScottL | chrisccoulson, i was hoping to have it resolved for 10.04.1 | 19:56 |
| ScottL | ubuntu studio doesn't ship network-manager by default because it generally creates too much latency for recording | 20:01 |
| ScottL | and with network-admin having a disabled gui this people who are not hard wired into a router that handles DCHP for them automagically without ANY network | 20:02 |
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| shadeslayer | tumbleweed: around? | 20:12 |
| * shadeslayer needs help with revu comments | 20:13 | |
| shadeslayer | well... anyone who can help with http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=8338 : last comment | 20:13 |
| tumbleweed | shadeslayer: what do you need help with in particular? | 20:16 |
| shadeslayer | ah : * The last sentence of the short-gpl3+ is completely wrong in this context since we, as a debian system distribute the license in the mentioned location the reader of this file will in 90% of all cases not look at the source package but at the file as installed along the binary package. | 20:16 |
| shadeslayer | dont understand what apachelogger means :P | 20:17 |
| tumbleweed | shadeslayer: we change the sentance about writing to FSF to say that you can find the GPL3 in /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-3 on debian based systems | 20:17 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 20:17 |
| shadeslayer | http://pastebin.com/rRS79UHQ | 20:18 |
| shadeslayer | tumbleweed: line 30? | 20:18 |
| tumbleweed | replace lines 29 and 30 | 20:18 |
| shadeslayer | hmm... with? You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License | 20:19 |
| shadeslayer | along with QIpMsg. If not, see "/usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-3" | 20:19 |
| tumbleweed | shadeslayer: look at other packages on your system | 20:19 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 20:20 |
| mirak_ | hi | 20:39 |
| loneowais_ | Hey guys, I wrote an small app | 20:50 |
| loneowais_ | a gmail/google apps notifier for ubuntu. Any chance of making it into the universe | 20:50 |
| MTecknology | this may be a stretch but... is it possible to make a package that just changes configs? Like, apache has one config, I install a package that has apache as a dependency, and all it does it install a different config over it | 20:50 |
| MTecknology | loneowais_: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/ | 20:50 |
| carstenh | MTecknology: this would require a dpkg with support for config file diversions to work well. there are some hacks around like config-package-dev. | 21:00 |
| Laney | Do you have to overwrite? Apache has /etc/apache2/*-available and a2en* that you can use | 21:02 |
| MTecknology | apache was an example | 21:03 |
| MTecknology | I want to write a package for my servers that changes the configs for a few packages | 21:03 |
| MTecknology | half the packages don't support /etc/default/ | 21:04 |
| carstenh | puppet is another hack to solce such things ;) an example config is available in the debian dsa git repository | 21:04 |
| carstenh | solve | 21:04 |
| Laney | I don't think there is a policy compliant way to do it | 21:04 |
| MTecknology | :( | 21:05 |
| MTecknology | so I'd be better off actually tweaking the packages themselves? | 21:05 |
| Laney | have a look at policy ยง10.7.4 | 21:06 |
| Laney | but of course if you don't intend to distribute the package then you can do whatever you like | 21:06 |
| carstenh | MTecknology: an tweak them again on every security upgrade? (btw dpkg-repack would be a tool to du such things) | 21:07 |
| carstenh | s/an/and/ | 21:07 |
| tumbleweed | you can preseed debconf settings, but not very much is exposed that way | 21:08 |
| MTecknology | http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-files.html | 21:09 |
| carstenh | slack is another tool to handle config files | 21:09 |
| MTecknology | oooh | 21:10 |
| Laney | a package probably isn't the best way | 21:10 |
| MTecknology | either slack is amazingly simple or there's not much for docs about it | 21:11 |
| carstenh | both ;) | 21:11 |
| MTecknology | thanks :) | 21:11 |
| carstenh | MTecknology: dget the source package and check the files in it, the packaging is missing the most useful documentation | 21:12 |
| MTecknology | alrighty, it looks like a really nice tool | 21:13 |
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| MTecknology | !info php5-cgi | 21:24 |
| ubottu | php5-cgi (source: php5): server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (CGI binary). In component main, is optional. Version 5.3.2-1ubuntu4.2 (lucid), package size 5485 kB, installed size 14664 kB | 21:24 |
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