[00:23] <m4tr1x> hi
[01:01]  * warewolf pokes Sarvatt 
[01:01] <warewolf> Sarvatt: happy 4th
[01:26] <Sarvatt> hey Richard, ya caught me in the middle of setting up a 150 package upload script getting ready for xserver 1.9 :) come over to #ubuntu-x?
[01:29] <warewolf> sure
[05:15] <rocky_IITM> RAOF, lifeless: yesterday I was telling .... I was doing memory allocation of  16KB (each block) and total of 65536 blocks. If the total blocks is increased more then 65536 the memory allocation fails... Please help me to find out the problem...
[08:19]  * abogani waves
[08:19] <abogani> Are there anyone interested to review and eventually upload -lowlatency and -realtime kernels?
[09:01] <kraut> moin
[10:47] <ogra> on both omap flavours i get oopses in parport_pc_probe_port
[11:15] <apw> abogani, where are those again ?
[11:15] <apw> will try and have a look at them today
[11:20] <repete> Hi all
[11:21] <repete> looking for some good troubleshooting steps for Bug #595047
[11:21] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 595047 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "massive i/o renders the system unusable (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/595047
[11:22] <repete> title should actually be changed.  I think it is a problem with how maverick swaps.
[11:31] <bullgard4> I have installed the DEB program package »linux-source«. Am I right in believing that installing the package »linux-doc« is thus dispensable?
[11:39] <amitk> pgraner: heya!
[11:40] <amitk> pgraner: didn't you create a table projecting future kernel releases somewhere?
[12:06] <Keybuk> hmm, I'm confused by the kernel tree
[12:06] <Keybuk> I have ssh://zinc/srv/kernel.ubuntu.com/git/ubuntu/ubuntu-maverick.git
[12:06] <Keybuk> but the latest commit seems to be Jun 2?
[12:07] <Keybuk> ah no, maybe this is git being silly, since it's based on my upstream kernel tree
[12:17]  * apw notes its beautiful out here
[12:31] <abogani> apw: Git trees are on http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git. Prebuilt deb packages are available on my PPA https://launchpad.net/~abogani/+archive/ppa/+packages
[12:31] <abogani> apw, Thanks a lot!
[12:32] <apw> abogani, cool ... will try and get a second to look them over today before i sleep
[12:33] <abogani> apw, You can take a look also tomorrow. I'm not in hurry I would want to have included those before Maverick release ;-)\
[12:33] <abogani> apw, Thanks in advance and a lot!
[12:34] <apw> abogani, if i keep putting it off till tomorrow, it never gets done.  its on my radar but keeps slipping
[12:53] <bguthro> I'm not sure if this is the proper place for this, or not - but I've been working with the intel-gfx list to get a particular Dell laptop working (E6410) - I had posted about this here a week ago or so. The guys over at RedHat found a fix, and applied against the lucid 2.6.32 kernel, it works great for this machine. I think it might be worth cherry-picking into the LTS kernel, for these Ironlake chips
[12:54] <bguthro> My original bug was https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28746 - but this was marked as a dup of https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28070
[12:54] <ubot2> Freedesktop bug 28746 in DRM/Intel "[Ironlake LVDS] Dell E6410 boots to black screen" [Normal,Resolved: duplicate]
[12:54] <bguthro> Ultimately, the patch worth cherry picking can be found here: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/intel-gfx/2010-June/007232.html
[12:57] <apw> bguthro, i would post the patch to the kernel-team@lists.ubuntu.com and suggest it for lucid in that case
[12:57] <apw> mention the bug number in the email too
[12:58] <bguthro> ok, will do
[12:58] <apw> bguthro, actually give me a sec, just want to check thats not in stable
[13:05] <apw> bguthro, ok i don't see it yet, so yeah send it on
[13:06] <bguthro> ok, I'll send it out shortly
[13:07] <apw> cool thanks
[13:09] <jk-> bguthro: just a sec
[13:09] <jk-> bguthro: Dave Airlie has done an update to that, IIRC
[13:09] <bguthro> jk - was just about to hit 'send' - what's up?
[13:10] <bguthro> I think this was the updated version
[13:10] <jk-> nope
[13:10] <bguthro> at least - the most up-to date posted to the bug
[13:10] <jk-> https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/108727/
[13:10] <jk-> .. which has gone upstream
[13:10] <jk-> we have a bug for this already, just a sec..
[13:11] <jk-> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/554569
[13:11] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 554569 in linux (Fedora) (and 3 other projects) "[lucid] Blank screen with KMS on Thinkpad X201 with Arrandale (i915) (affects: 29) (heat: 212)" [Undecided,Invalid]
[13:12] <bguthro> jk - OK, I'll keep an eye on that patch as well. Thanks for the update.
[13:13] <bguthro> jk, apw - I won't bother sending the bug in then, if there's already a launchpad bug
[13:55] <ogra> tgardner, can i have an ompa4 upload in a forseeable future, there are so many fixes since the last upload and i have hangs on the pandaboard that i would like to see going away
[13:55] <ogra> hrm
[13:55] <ogra> *ompa
[13:55] <ogra> bah !
[13:55] <ogra> omap lompa ...
[13:55] <ogra> i mean omap4 indeed
[13:56] <tgardner> ogra, doing a test build right now, I'll upload if it is successful
[13:56] <ogra> sweet, you rock !
[13:56] <tgardner> I've just pushed some updates from TI
[13:56]  * ogra hopes the hangs go away with it 
[13:56] <tgardner> ogra, Sebastien reports that they have
[13:57] <ogra> sadly i dont get any oppses or anthing it just hangs 
[13:57] <ogra> great
[13:57]  * ogra suspects the MMC driver 
[13:58] <repete> Hi all
[13:58] <repete> can anyone give me a pointer to troubleshooting for swap issues?
[13:59] <astinus> repete: What kind of swap issues are you experiencing?
[14:00] <tgardner> repete, I don't know that we have a page for that, other then 'make it big enough' when hibernating.
[14:00] <repete> afaict, maverick on my device is over aggressive in swapping and I need to understand why and what is triggering the swapping.
[14:00] <repete> I filed Bug #595047, which is not very well named
[14:00] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 595047 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "massive i/o renders the system unusable (affects: 1) (heat: 161)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/595047
[14:01] <repete> In the bug is a description of how I determined to concentrate on swap
[14:09] <astinus> repete: How much memory do you have?
[14:09] <astinus> repete: Output from 'free -m' would be helpful, as would graphing it over time with sysstat or similar
[14:09] <cking> tgardner,  tseliot cannot get access to push to   git://kernel.ubuntu.com/mfrey/maverick-light.git - can you help us set the permissions correctly?
[14:10] <astinus> repete: I guess that 'top -b -n 1' during problems would be helpful too
[14:10] <tgardner> cking, well, you can't push using git:// protocol, and he also cannot push to mfrey's tree
[14:11] <astinus> repete: Equally some output from 'vmstat' showing what your sytem is up to would help, perhaps try 'vmstat 1 60' to gather one minute of data
[14:11] <repete> astinus, this is great stuff, thx
[14:12] <repete> astinus, will try to trigger it (shouldn't be hard) and will add that to the bug
[14:24] <apw> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/linux/+bug/458299
[14:25] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 458299 in linux (Ubuntu Karmic) (and 2 other projects) "apparmor_parser: page allocation failure. order:5 (affects: 4) (heat: 24)" [Undecided,Fix released]
[14:30] <apw> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/602261
[14:30] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 602261 in linux (Ubuntu) "apparmor causes thrashing and OOM during upgrade (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New]
[14:30] <pgraner> smb: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/602261
[14:37] <apw> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Dev/KernelTesting
[14:39] <tgardner> ogra, uploaded linux-ti-omap4_2.6.34-901.4
[14:39]  * ogra hugs tgardner 
[14:45] <smb> apw, commit d87815cb2090e07b0b0b2d73dc9740706e92c80c
[14:45] <smb> writeback: limit write_cache_pages integrity scanning to current EOF
[14:58] <apw> smb, bah ... just ticked something vile on the lucid kernel ... hard locked when i tried to quit a chroot
[14:59] <smb> apw, All just complaining about poor Lucid kernels. :-P
[15:02] <apw> yeah she is being a contancerous beastie today
[15:03] <apw> and getting on my nerves
[15:05]  * astinus has Lucid kernel issues
[15:05] <cking> lucid bite back?
[15:05] <astinus> :'( cantankerous beastie indeed, lots of regressions from Karmic
[15:49] <mpoirier> apw: got time for a mumble ?
[15:50] <apw> mpoirier, sure, drag me smoewhere
[15:53] <bjf> moin all
[15:58] <lag> Morning' bjf
[16:09] <bjf> ##
[16:09] <bjf> ## Ubuntu Kernel Team Meeting - in 1 hour 55 minutes - #ubuntu-meeting
[16:09] <bjf> ##
[16:26] <sconklin> apw: You may want to just be aware of this bug which exists upstream as well for Maverick https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/574733
[16:26] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 574733 in linux (Ubuntu) "serve Xorg performance penalty due to [u]vesafb creating wrong PAT entries (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Medium,Triaged]
[16:26] <apw> sconklin, ta
[16:40] <mdz> pgraner, hmm, I just remembered something significant about bug 602261
[16:40] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 602261 in linux (Ubuntu) "apparmor causes thrashing and OOM during upgrade (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/602261
[16:41] <mdz> I was running the upgrader with ionice -c3, i.e. the idle I/O scheduler
[16:41] <mdz> apw, ^
[16:42] <apw> smb ^^  .... mdz interesting ... cirtainly not something the average joe would have done
[16:42] <mdz> I tend to do that often when I'm going to continue using the machine
[16:42] <mdz> my standard command-line upgrade script does it too
[16:42] <mdz> sudo ionice -c3 apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:42] <apw> yeah i wish i'd done that often with other commands
[16:44] <pgraner> mdz: cool let me try that as well
[16:44] <smb> Hm, have not used that much. Don't think it should cause jbd2 to lock so long, though
[16:44] <smb> pgraner, You have the proposed kernel?
[16:44] <smb> or do you want to try once before and after
[16:44] <mdz> apw, it doesn't seem to work as well in 10.04 as it did in earlier releases for some reason
[16:45] <pgraner> smb: I'm just trying to get it to repro first
[16:45] <omry> hi, I bumped into 571422 with my new laptop. trying to do the workaround suggested in the first comment). how do I get grub2 to accept a boot flag for a kernel?
[16:45] <apw> mdz, there are some changes in the stable pipe which may be related ... writeback is borked en-toto as far as i can see
[16:45] <mdz> the idle scheduler used to do a really good job of preserving interactive responsiveness, but in 10.04+ it seems to be less effective
[16:48] <mdz> dd if=/dev/zero of=bigfile bs=1M count=1024 makes my system pretty useless whether I run it with ionice -c3 or not
[16:51] <apw> smb, are the writeback patches applied to anything yet?  that mdz could test ?
[16:52] <smb> apw, I have a test kernel for the sync issue but that does not include that patch about extending faster that writeback is
[16:53] <apw> smb, perhaps we should shove them both in a test kernel ...seeming this is getting to be a much complained of issue
[16:53] <JFo> congrats cnd 
[16:54] <smb> apw, Might be possible. Need to check which bug the rest is and see how well the other one applies.
[16:56] <smb> apw, mdz Test kernels with only the other 12 patches are in http://people.canonical.com/lp585092
[16:57] <smb> err http://people.canonical.com/~smb/lp585092
[16:59] <mdz> smb, what would be the most helpful thing I could do with them?
[16:59] <mdz> given that I haven't been able to reproduce the bug yet?
[17:00] <smb> mdz, Given that, maybe just generically run with the ionice and see whether that feels swifter
[17:01] <mdz> smb, OK
[17:23] <tgardner> apw, what is that arcane git command that identifies in which branch a SHA1 exists?
[17:23] <apw> git describe --contains perhaps
[17:24] <tgardner> apw, nope, no joy
[17:24] <apw> tgardner, i think i've done it via git merge-base
[17:24] <apw> though thats iterative
[17:25] <apw> if [ `git merge-base "$sha1" "$branch"`  = "$sha1" ]; then
[17:25] <apw>   echo found
[17:25] <apw> fi
[17:25] <apw> sort of thing
[17:25] <tgardner> apw, ick
[17:25] <apw> yep
[17:26] <jjohansen> JFo: server team wants us to prioritize Bug #576066
[17:26] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 576066 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "ums_cypress missing from lucid server cd (affects: 1) (heat: 53)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/576066
[17:26] <apw> jjohansen, is that the right bug # ?
[17:26] <jjohansen> yep
[17:27] <apw> well thats a bug about stuff missing from a cd, why is that our concern?
[17:27] <apw> or is that a module name ?
[17:27] <jjohansen> it seems to be a kernel packaging issue
[17:27] <jjohansen> yeah ums_cypress.ko
[17:28] <apw> jjohansen, is it even built for server ?
[17:28] <JFo> jjohansen, looking
[17:28] <jjohansen> apw: I have just started looking
[17:28] <apw> jjohansen, and they are intreested in lucid ??
[17:28] <jjohansen> so not there yet
[17:29] <jjohansen> apw: yes
[17:29] <apw> jjohansen, which CD is this, live or alternates ?
[17:30] <jjohansen> both it seems
[17:30] <jjohansen> reported for live and also on alternate
[17:30] <apw> alternate is completely different from live 
[17:30] <jjohansen> alternate is comment #6
[17:30] <jjohansen> right
[17:30] <apw> as in that is a sub-set
[17:35] <apw> jjohansen, ok the built package contains that modules
[17:35] <apw> -rw-r--r-- root/root      8736 2010-04-16 13:04 ./lib/modules/2.6.32-21-server/kernel/drivers/usb/storage/ums-cypress.ko
[17:36] <apw> so the module is there at least on the live-cd's ... i can totally beleive the alternates do not
[17:36] <apw> as that modules is not mentioened in d-i configuration so its clearly not on the alternate cd's
[17:37] <tgardner> apw, it would have to be in a udeb module description somewhere
[17:37] <apw> tgardner, right for the alternate cd's it would, and it is not, but for the live-cd that is the complete kernel package
[17:37] <apw> and its in the kernel package
[17:38] <tgardner> apw, so why do they think its missing from t he live CD?
[17:38] <apw> they are not very clear in the bug, its possible it is all alternate 
[17:39] <jjohansen> apw: I'll ask, I just started looking
[17:40] <apw> jjohansen, ok if its just the alternate cd, then its a simple case of it being missing frmo the d-i configuration and yes its not in there now
[17:40] <jjohansen> right
[17:40] <apw> jjohansen, as they talka bout blades i am suspecting they are netbooting, which uses the alternates i think
[17:41] <jjohansen> apw: indeed, thanks
[17:44] <apw> jjohansen, if thats for lucid, its not going to make it out in a hurry ... 
[17:44] <apw> smb, can a fix make the point release cd's still ?
[17:45] <smb> apw, For Lucid only with much effort. Or rather unlikely
[17:45] <apw> smb, yeah for lucid ...
[17:46] <apw> jjohansen <--> smb
[17:46] <jjohansen> apw: right, I'll let them know
[17:46] <apw> jjohansen, waht do server want us to priortise it for ...
[17:46] <smb> The current proposed will need two weeks to go updates, then there is a security update scheduled
[17:46] <smb> jjohansen,  ^
[17:47] <bjf> ##
[17:47] <bjf> ## Ubuntu Kernel Team Meeting - in 15 minutes - #ubuntu-meeting
[17:47] <bjf> ##
[17:47] <smb> jjohansen, Not to forget there is a sprint before Jul-28, too
[17:48] <jjohansen> smb: okay, thanks
[18:07] <simar> Hi Please help me regarding how to forward kernel bug reports upstream ie to ubuntu kernel team or whosoever that take kernel bugs ...
[18:09] <maco2> you can file a kernel bug wtih "ubuntu-bug linux" in your terminal
[18:09] <sconklin> simar: Are you asking about bugs for which there are upstream bug reports but not Ubuntu bug reports?
[18:15] <simar> You mean should i check some upstream like bugzilla for duplicate bugs .. By the i'm reffering to launchpad bugs in ubuntu bug #565543
[18:15] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 565543 in linux (Ubuntu) "Alps touchpad detected as ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse(in VAIO E series) after the kernel upgrade (affects: 12) (dups: 1) (heat: 66)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/565543
[18:15] <simar> sconklin, 
[18:22] <omry> hi, I am trying to get ubuntu to work with my dell inspiron 17 laptop. 2.6.32 had a problem with suspend/resume. I upgraded to 2.6.34 (based on tip from 571422) and it solved that problem but now the broadcom wireless driver is not working.
[18:23] <omry> found some info about that as well, but I need some help in applying the patch and getting the driver to build. (I am not familiar with the ubuntu method of doing this).
[18:23] <apw> omry, is that using bcmwl ?  if so you may need the version from maverick
[18:23] <omry> apw, yes - that's bcmwl
[18:24] <omry> what's maverick, the next ubuntu?
[18:24] <apw> i installed the version out of the maverick (next ubuntu yes) archive, i did this by hand i think
[18:24] <apw> (everyone is in a meeting over on #ubuntu-meeting curerntly so you are likely to have poor response)
[18:25] <omry> apw, so you just took the maverick bcmwl deb and installed it?
[18:25] <apw> omry, pretty sure i did yes
[18:26] <omry> cool. where can I get it?
[18:26] <omry> (new to ubuntu as I said)
[18:28] <apw> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl has links to all the releases and in those tabs should be the .deb links
[18:28] <apw> omry, ^^
[18:29] <JFo> simar, that is already a kernel bug on my radar
[18:30] <JFo> linux(ubuntu) package is the ubuntu kernel package
[18:30] <omry> will try to debuild the source package
[18:32] <JFo> <-lunch
[18:35] <simar> JFo, ya I have changed that but how to send the bug upstream. I mean according to my knowledge it contains necessary information that it could be traiged. What should i do to set it triaged .... just change the status..
[18:53] <sconklin> simar: if you are asking how to make the Ubuntu kernel team aware of that bug - they already are, since it is filed against the kernel.
[18:54] <simar> sconklin, Then can I set the status of the bug as Triaged ..
[18:54] <omry> apw, I installed bcmwl-modaliases_5.60.48.36+bdcom-0ubuntu5_amd64.deb and  bcmwl-kernel-source_5.60.48.36+bdcom-0ubuntu5_amd64.deb
[18:55] <omry> anything else I should do? modprob wl still wont find the module
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[19:02] <omry> apw ?
[19:02] <apw> omry, was for someone else
[19:02] <omry> ah
[19:03] <omry> what's the procedure to build the bcmwl kernel source package?
[19:04] <apw> it should install by default when you upgrade it
[19:05] <omry> hmm, I`ll try to remove and reinstall it
[19:06] <omry> aha : kernel source for this kernel does not seem to be installed.
[19:07] <omry> during installation. I think it should have failed on this
[19:13] <omry> apw, don't you think it's a minor bug in the package?
[19:13] <apw> omry, oh you need to install the headers package for the kernle too 
[19:13] <apw> else the bwcml doesn't build
[19:13] <omry> doing it just now
[19:13] <omry> the bug I am claiming is that it did not fail the deb installation
[19:14] <omry> (when the headers were not installed)
[19:14] <apw> thats actually how its meant to work
[19:14] <apw> but you normally get both together via the meta packages
[19:15] <omry> I see
[19:15] <omry> so I guess it's okay. anyway, looks like it's working
[19:16] <omry> going to reboot just to be sure it continue to work. 
[19:16] <omry> thanks for your help.
[19:40] <apw> omry, cool
[19:41] <omry> apw, yup. all is well now (including the sleep/resume thing that started this mess)
[19:41] <apw> omry, thats good news
[19:42] <omry> yeah. it means this laptop will probably work almost out of the box on the next ubuntu (almost because users still need to install the bcmwl driver)
[19:43] <omry> one possible problem is that I don't have the battery icon now (I had it before the kernel upgrade).   but since I get a popup when I disconnect the ac, I think it's a cosmetic issue.
[19:49] <mrjazzcat> A customer has asked me to poke around and see if anyone has played with ext3 on an SD.  Have you?  Got anything good or bad to say about it?
[19:55] <lifeless> morning
[19:56] <lifeless> so I'm running the lucid ppa backport at manjo's suggestion, to see if it helped my wifi - as of yesterday or thereabouts, I can't start VM's now.
[19:58] <tgardner> lifeless, its a known problem.
[19:58] <lifeless> tgardner: ok thanks
[19:59] <lifeless> I'll just stop apparmor for now then :)
[19:59] <lifeless> also on the 2.6.35-6 kernels, my machine reboots every now and then; I don't have any diagnostic data yet - is that known too 
[19:59] <lifeless> ?
[20:00] <apw> bjf, is the any other business section missing from the meeting minutes ?
[20:00] <bjf> apw, have i missed something?
[20:01] <tgardner> lifeless, dunno about that, I'm about to upload an -rc4 based kernel pretty soon which ought to fix it. 
[20:01] <tgardner> ought --> might
[20:01] <lifeless> cool
[20:03] <jjohansen> -> lunch
[20:27] <bjf> apw, i have no clue what you are referring to
[20:28] <apw> bjf the minutes you sent out stop at jfo's last entry, the AOB discussions are missing
[20:28] <apw> at least to my reading
[20:29] <bjf> apw, you are correct, that is very odd, will resend
[20:29] <apw> bjf, as long as the wiki is right i'd probabally not bother
[20:29] <apw> i have assumed it is also short
[20:29] <apw> but not checked
[20:30] <bjf> apw, it gets picked up by ubuntu-news
[20:30] <apw> ahh