| ripps | why hasn't the chromium-daily/dev ppa been updated yet? | 01:09 |
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| micahg | ripps: it updates in about 3 hrs | 01:12 |
| ripps | :) | 01:12 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - seamonkey is updated in the PPA for lucid now | 01:40 |
| chrisccoulson | and i've uploaded to maverick too | 01:40 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: to 2.0.5, right? | 01:41 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - yeah | 01:41 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: great, thanks | 01:41 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: what do we do about uploading to the devel release before the MFSAs are released (Seamonkey)? | 01:43 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - i've not been doing that yet. i wanted to be sure that we're allowed to do that before i uploaded it | 01:44 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: well, I know for Firefox/Thunderbird asac was in favor of it after the build went through basic QA upstream | 01:45 |
| chrisccoulson | but before the MFSA's are released? | 01:45 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: tomorrow :) | 01:45 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: we use USNs for those, so we don't publish any info until after it's released upstream | 01:46 |
| chrisccoulson | if there are no problems from mozilla's POV with us doing that, then i'm happy to do that | 01:46 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: oops, meant to say DMB meeting is tomorrow and I'm #3 | 01:46 |
| chrisccoulson | cool! | 01:46 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: it's extended beta testing for them, I think it's ok | 01:48 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, it makes sense for us to do that | 01:49 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I only have one question, do we create a new changelog entry in .head for each build released to the archive | 01:49 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, we'd probably have to do that | 01:49 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: k | 01:50 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: we also seem to be getting a lot of these flash crash reports, a lot of times, they have multiple versions installed | 01:52 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - yeah, i've been watching those. i'm not sure if the multiple versions is a red herring or not, or whether they're experiencing the same crash i submitted with apport earlier | 01:53 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: someone else also managed to submit a plugin crash that was retraced, but it's in Lucid | 01:54 |
| chrisccoulson | i don't think i've seen that one yet | 01:54 |
| * micahg needs to report a malone bug about CVEs now :( | 01:55 | |
| micahg | bug 600816 for you chrisccoulson :) | 01:55 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 600816 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Firefox crashes periodically (plugin-container crashed with SIGSEGV in ft_corner_orientation()) (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/600816 | 01:55 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 01:55 |
| bobby_ | Hey, have there been any issues with Javascript in the most recent build of 3.7a6pre? I can't open Newegg... | 03:50 |
| micahg | bobby_: broke until I merge 4.0 and fta updates the bot | 03:52 |
| bobby_ | And when will 4.0 be, any idea (This week pl0x?) | 03:52 |
| micahg | bobby_: I thought I was going to have time this weekend, but I've got a lot that needs to be done ASAP | 03:55 |
| bobby_ | Lol, I know how that feels :D, well take your time, I | 03:55 |
| micahg | bobby_: I'll try :0 | 03:55 |
| bobby_ | Can't wait for the Jaegar JS engine (or whatever it is called)... Sounds epic | 03:55 |
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| fta2 | mdeslaur, jdstrand: hi, how long will chromium stay in lucid-proposed? | 07:30 |
| fta2 | chrisccoulson, any idea what could be done for bug 529242? | 07:42 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 529242 in chromium-browser (Mandriva) (and 3 other projects) "chromium doesn't recognize icedtea6-plugin (affects: 13) (dups: 1) (heat: 106)" [Unknown,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/529242 | 07:42 |
| BUGabundo_remote | bom dia | 08:40 |
| chrisccoulson | hi fta2 - i will take a look at that once i've finished with firefox stuff | 09:54 |
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| mdeslaur | fta2: the SRU process says it needs to stay in -proposed for a minimum of a week, and positive testing feedback needs to be left in the bug, which no one did yet | 13:57 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: can you confirm I can publish tb 3.0.5 to lucid? | 13:59 |
| fta2 | mdeslaur, well, the thing is the next security update has already been published (~4d ago) | 13:59 |
| fta2 | so we're too slow | 13:59 |
| chrisccoulson | mdeslaur, yeah, that's ready to go | 14:00 |
| mdeslaur | fta2: I have no control over the SRU process. It's something that needs to get discussed with the tech board. | 14:00 |
| mdeslaur | fta2: I agree the SRU process doesn't work for chromium's rapid updates | 14:00 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: ok, cool, thanks | 14:00 |
| mdeslaur | fta2: from the tech board 2010-06-01 meeting: "The board discussed a standing Feature Freeze Exception for Chromium, however since the package has not yet had any SRUs, it was decided that this should be deferred until a reasonable (Kees suggested 3) number had been completed. Martin Pitt will re-raise this once he feels it has proven it's worth an exception." | 14:04 |
| chrisccoulson | how is this going to work with chromium as default on UNE? shouldn't these updates be going through -security rather than -proposed? | 14:05 |
| chrisccoulson | or have i missed something? | 14:05 |
| fta2 | mdeslaur, bug 602142 | 14:05 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 602142 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "Update to latest stable version (5.0.375.99) (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/602142 | 14:05 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: chromium-browser isn't in main yet | 14:06 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: I don't know how it could ship by default if it's in universe | 14:06 |
| fta2 | mdeslaur, the bot should auto-close rsn, i've just uploaded .99 to maverick | 14:06 |
| chrisccoulson | mdeslaur, yeah, it will eventually be in main. but even if it's in universe, do we still not release through -security? | 14:07 |
| chrisccoulson | (that is what we were planning with seamonkey updates) | 14:07 |
| chrisccoulson | (just without a USN) | 14:07 |
| fta2 | mdeslaur, http://paste.ubuntu.com/459819/ it's just a security update this time | 14:07 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: oh, right, sorry....so if it's a minimal patch that fixes a security issue, it gets pushed to -security. When it's a whole version update, it needs to go through -proposed, or it needs to get added to the list of exceptions approved by the tech board | 14:08 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: there already is an exception for the mozilla stuff | 14:09 |
| chrisccoulson | mdeslaur, will we have to get it approved by the tech board once it's in main? | 14:09 |
| chrisccoulson | we basically want to adopt a similar process to what we already do with mozilla really | 14:09 |
| mdeslaur | fta2: cool | 14:09 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: the tech board is already looking at getting it approved as an exception. They just decided to wait until we've done a reasonable number of SRUs to see how smoothly it works. (See tech board notes I pasted above...) | 14:11 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: they have been going smoothly thanks to fta2, so I don't see a problem with it being accepted as an exception | 14:12 |
| chrisccoulson | mdeslaur, that's good then :) | 14:12 |
| mdeslaur | it just needs to go through the normal process | 14:12 |
| fta2 | * RELEASE 5.0.375.86~r49890-0ubuntu0.10.04.1 to Ubuntu/lucid-proposed | 14:19 |
| fta2 | * RELEASE 5.0.375.70~r48679-0ubuntu0.10.04.1 to Ubuntu/lucid-proposed | 14:19 |
| fta2 | * RELEASE 5.0.375.55~r47796-0ubuntu0.10.04.1 to Ubuntu/lucid-proposed | 14:19 |
| fta2 | * RELEASE 5.0.375.38~r46659-0ubuntu0.10.04.1 to lucid-security | 14:19 |
| fta2 | mdeslaur, ^^ so it's more than 3 already | 14:19 |
| mdeslaur | fta2: well, I guess that means they'll re-evaluate it during the next tech board meeting | 14:20 |
| fta2 | mdeslaur, http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/chromium/5.0.375.99~r51029-0ubuntu0.10.04.1/ | 14:29 |
| mdeslaur | fta2: ok, let me test the one in -proposed today so they get the comment needed to release it first | 14:30 |
| fta2 | mdeslaur, sure. i just hand it to you so you can process it once you feel it's time :) | 14:33 |
| mdeslaur | fta2: as soon as the one in -proposed is released, I'll upload that one. Thanks for all your work! :) | 14:34 |
| philinux | chrisccoulson: Are you here? | 14:49 |
| chrisccoulson | philinux, sort of | 14:54 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm here, but quite busy ;) | 14:54 |
| philinux | Ok I raised that bug re bookmarks. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/602265 | 14:55 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 602265 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Maverick: The defaut livecd and installed firefox bookmarks could do with updating. (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] | 14:55 |
| philinux | ubot2 that's clever | 14:55 |
| ubot2 | Factoid "that's clever" not found | 14:55 |
| philinux | not that clever then | 14:55 |
| chrisccoulson | philinux, ok, thanks | 14:56 |
| philinux | Righto | 14:57 |
| chrisccoulson | ah yes, it's in my inbox now ;) | 14:57 |
| philinux | One other quicky, is it possible to increase the default width of FF on the livecd | 14:58 |
| philinux | To like normal website width | 14:58 |
| chrisccoulson | good question, i'm not too sure how to change that | 14:59 |
| philinux | When I was raising the bug I realised how small the FF window is width wise | 15:00 |
| philinux | Does it need a bug rainsing | 15:00 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, can do | 15:00 |
| philinux | ok | 15:00 |
| philinux | I'll leave you in peace now well relative I suppose | 15:01 |
| chrisccoulson | philinux, ah, the width comes from the document width | 15:04 |
| chrisccoulson | which is the size of the home page | 15:04 |
| chrisccoulson | i think | 15:04 |
| philinux | Oh so if you don't resize it and visit another page it will resize? | 15:05 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm not too sure, i could be wrong | 15:05 |
| philinux | I'll load up my livecd again later this aft | 15:05 |
| chrisccoulson | it only does that for new profiles. once the profile has been created, the window size persists between sessions | 15:06 |
| philinux | Ok, I was trying to think how to improve the livecd experience | 15:08 |
| chrisccoulson | philinux, what is the default window size if you uninstall ubufox before opening firefox for the first time on the live CD? | 15:11 |
| philinux | I'd have to give that a whirl | 15:12 |
| philinux | Get back to you after the reboot to livecd | 15:12 |
| philinux | rebooting | 15:14 |
| philinux | chriscccoulson: I purged ubufox then I got a screenshot of FF | 15:26 |
| philinux | chrisccoulsson: Need to send you a screen pic | 15:51 |
| chrisccoulson | philinux, what happened with it then? | 16:02 |
| chrisccoulson | wb jdstrand | 16:02 |
| philinux | Hang on | 16:02 |
| chrisccoulson | (assuming you've returned from vacation now) | 16:02 |
| jdstrand | ? | 16:02 |
| jdstrand | oh 'w'elcome 'b'ack | 16:02 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: thanks! | 16:02 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, there's an issue with openjdk on jaunty | 16:03 |
| chrisccoulson | it needs cacao-source, which is in universe :( | 16:03 |
| mdeslaur | ugh | 16:03 |
| philinux | chrisccoulson: screenshot shows it better than words | 16:03 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: let me check that | 16:03 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: I am not caught up on email. was ant uploaded, then openjdk rebuilt? | 16:03 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks micahg | 16:03 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, yeah, i've got ant uploaded, then doko wanted me to apply a patch to openjdk to fix another issue before i uploaded | 16:04 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: k | 16:04 |
| * jdstrand waits for micahg | 16:04 | |
| chrisccoulson | i've got it uploaded now, but it's waiting on cacao-source in jaunty | 16:04 |
| jdstrand | cacao-source does not exist in jaunty... | 16:05 |
| philinux | chrisccoulson: you need to accept the file transfer | 16:05 |
| jdstrand | oh, yes it does | 16:05 |
| chrisccoulson | philinux, i don't see anywhere to accept. might be better to mail me it ;) | 16:06 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, yeah, it's a different source name in jaunty | 16:06 |
| philinux | Ok what's address | 16:06 |
| chrisccoulson | philinux, chris.coulson@canonical.com | 16:06 |
| philinux | chrisccoulson: Ok sent | 16:08 |
| chrisccoulson | interesting ;) | 16:09 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: why is it pulling in cacao? I see this on lucid: | 16:10 |
| jdstrand | icedtea-6-jre-cacao - Alternative JVM for OpenJDK, using Cacao | 16:10 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: it looks like there should be some logic to exclude it from jaunty | 16:10 |
| jdstrand | can we just get rid of that? | 16:10 |
| micahg | jdstrand: it's a build-depends | 16:10 |
| jdstrand | micahg: I mean adjust the packaging to remove the build-depends and the created binary for icedtea-6-jre-cacao | 16:11 |
| micahg | jdstrand: I'm going to pull down the version in the PPA and have a look | 16:11 |
| jdstrand | micahg: actually, we can't-- icedtea-6-jre-cacao does exist in jaunty | 16:11 |
| jdstrand | micahg: I'm fine with bringing in the source for cacao into main if I demote all the binaries | 16:12 |
| jdstrand | micahg: support doesn't change in that case | 16:12 |
| * micahg is wondering how it built in the PPA w/cacao-source | 16:12 | |
| chrisccoulson | micahg, the PPA's don;t normally enforce the policy of not allowing things in main to pull in from universe | 16:13 |
| chrisccoulson | but the security PPA does | 16:14 |
| jdstrand | I think if I move just the source to main in the archive, then the ppa will fall in line | 16:15 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, hopefully. i'm not sure if doko has any suggestions | 16:15 |
| jdstrand | mdeslaur: do you have an opinion on promoting cacao source to main, but demoting all binaries to universe? | 16:15 |
| chrisccoulson | we'd still need the cacao-source binary in main wouldn't we? | 16:16 |
| chrisccoulson | or is that what you meant? | 16:16 |
| jdstrand | mdeslaur: it should not change our support status | 16:16 |
| chrisccoulson | it's confusing having a binary package that ships source code ;) | 16:16 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: well, the cacao-source package is just source code, right? no executables? presumably meant for building icedtea-6-jre-cacao which is in universe? | 16:17 |
| mdeslaur | jdstrand: you could also simply upload it to the PPA but never release it | 16:17 |
| jdstrand | mdeslaur: that would make the next openjdk security update ftbfs, no? | 16:18 |
| chrisccoulson | hopefully there won't be another update ;) | 16:18 |
| chrisccoulson | this is jaunty, so there's not much life left | 16:18 |
| mdeslaur | oh, right, as next time it won't go through the mozilla PPA... | 16:18 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: maybe not from you guys, but we have them fairly regularly for openjdk | 16:19 |
| chrisccoulson | ah, ok | 16:19 |
| jdstrand | let me look at the cacao-source | 16:19 |
| mdeslaur | jdstrand: I don't mind it being copied to main with binaries in universe, if you can do it | 16:19 |
| mdeslaur | actually | 16:20 |
| jdstrand | mdeslaur: I can do it, I sort mis-asked though. there is a package, cacao-source, that is needed in main to build | 16:21 |
| jdstrand | mdeslaur: if that is only source code (eg, a tarball in /usr/src or something), I think we are fine on support (ie, it doesn't change) | 16:21 |
| jdstrand | mdeslaur: but if it ships binaries, we'll need to look more closely | 16:21 |
| mdeslaur | jdstrand: there are no binaries, so just move it to main | 16:21 |
| mdeslaur | it just installs a source tarball, what a crappy package :) | 16:21 |
| jdstrand | mdeslaur: confirmed, just ships /usr/src/cacao-0.99.4.tar.bz2 and some stuff in /usr/share/doc | 16:21 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: ok, cacao is the same version in jaunty as lucid. I will promote cacao-source and its source package in the archive, and be sure to demote everything else. after the publisher run completes (it starts at :05), the dep wait should be gone | 16:23 |
| jdstrand | mdeslaur: ^ | 16:23 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, thanks | 16:24 |
| chrisccoulson | i don't need to give the PPA a poke at all? | 16:24 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: you might, but lets see what happens | 16:24 |
| jdstrand | it'll be at least an hour before it is in main | 16:24 |
| mdeslaur | jdstrand: cool | 16:25 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson, mdeslaur: done | 16:29 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, thanks | 16:29 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I made it :) | 16:56 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - yeah, i saw. congratulations! | 16:57 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: thanks, now I can do my merges :) | 16:57 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: unfortunately, this week I'm very limited with time :(, but will make sure to get them in before alpha3 | 16:58 |
| chrisccoulson | heh, no worries. i might finally be able to start on maverick by the end of the week | 16:58 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm hoping to have karmic pretty much finished tonight (with the exception of openjdk) | 16:59 |
| chrisccoulson | i might rest for a bit then ;) | 16:59 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: probably a good idea :) | 16:59 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: is there anything urgent that I need to get done this week? | 17:00 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - i don't think so. did you make any progress on kazehakase? | 17:01 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: not yet | 17:01 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: haven't had time to look at it | 17:01 |
| chrisccoulson | ah, ok. i think that's the only app left to port now which breaks when xulrunner 1.9.2 is installed | 17:01 |
| chrisccoulson | i can maybe look at it later if you don't get a chance to | 17:01 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: k, I was going to try backporting the version that was in karmic | 17:02 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: they did most of the xul192 transition if not all of it | 17:03 |
| chrisccoulson | ah, ok. i haven't tried the version in karmic yet actually | 17:03 |
| chrisccoulson | only in jaunty and hardy | 17:03 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: well, I got through about 20 code changes for the hardy version and just decided it might be easier to just backport the karmic version if it works (originally I decided against it since it required GTK 2.16, but fixing that might be easier than all the code changes for xul192) | 17:04 |
| chrisccoulson | do you know what features from gtk it needs? | 17:04 |
| chrisccoulson | that can get quite messy ;) | 17:04 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: not offhand | 17:04 |
| micahg | I wanted to see where it failed | 17:05 |
| chrisccoulson | if it's simple things like gtk_show_uri to show help pages, then it's easy to revert those calls back to their libgnome equivalents | 17:05 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I'll let you know as soon as I find the issue | 17:06 |
| * micahg doesn't know GTK from anything | 17:06 | |
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| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, karmic is looking pretty good now. i've got almost everything ported | 19:48 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: awesome. wrt jaunty I adjusted the overrides, but the ppa hasn't picked them up yet. I'm not sure why | 19:55 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: figure we can wait a bit longer | 19:56 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: actually, lp still shows it as 'universe' so maybe the publisher is offline | 19:56 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, yeah, i'd noticed it was still waiting too | 19:56 |
| ddecator | micahg, chrisccoulson: anything i can help you guys out with? | 21:07 |
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