[00:06] <h00k> genii: are you...alright? relatively?
[00:08] <genii> h00k: Well it's harder to remember things and part of my face is sort of asleep which is unnerving. But otherwise things are fairly all right. They want to schedule me for a procedure to inflate some of my arteries
[00:09] <genii> Angioplasty
[00:10] <h00k> genii: My Grandpa had a stent put in, he had a few strokes before they did it.
[00:11] <h00k> genii: will the memory return?
[00:11] <h00k> also, the facial paralysis?
[00:13] <genii> h00k: The doc tells me other parts of the brain take over and regain control of atrophied areas so paralysis diminishes etc. But for memory no answer
[00:16] <h00k> genii: well. wow.
[00:19] <genii> h00k: I've sort of accepted that my brain will eventually rot away and leave me a gibbering idiot anyhow. Because Alzheimers is endemic in my family. so it's not such a shock as for some people. Just that I thought I'd be a lot older before I'd have to start worying about it
[00:19] <h00k> genii: how old are you, if I may ask?
[00:19] <genii> h00k: 43
[00:26] <h00k> genii: ah, that's too young. knock that off.
[00:26] <genii> Heh
[00:26] <h00k> are you drill going to drink coffee?
[00:27] <h00k> er
[00:27] <h00k> still. how in the hell did that happen.
[00:28] <genii> h00k: Coffee has been harder than almost any other thing to give up. Also it's a large part of my online identity as well as my IRL identity ( I have a 64 ounce Tim Horton mug which I carry around at work for instance)
[00:28] <genii> So dunno
[00:28] <h00k> heh. I believe it. Aside from the chemical dependencies.
[00:28] <IdleOne> fill it with water
[00:29] <h00k> which, I've definitely gone through that before. I ended up in the ER a couple times. Bad headaches.
[00:30] <IdleOne> yeah the first week of no coffee can kill you
[00:30] <genii> IdleOne: It doesn't always have coffee in it :)
[00:30] <h00k> genii: well, don't kill yourself with it.
[00:32] <genii> Anyhow I'm headed out... since I'm already /away it won't be noticeable though. I'll try to return more often than I've been here recently.
[00:33] <h00k> genii: gake care.
[00:33] <h00k> *take.
[03:09] <IdleOne> SBW42 trolling -ot
[14:32] <bazhang> the purekde factoid is only up until karmic; wonder if that will still hold for lucid
[14:33] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE
[14:37] <h00k> interesting
[15:01] <IdleOne> it should still be the same
[15:01] <IdleOne> but I have not tested it
[15:02] <IdleOne> Good morning
[15:08] <h00k> Good Morning
[15:13] <nhandler> Hmm...I see two issues with that page. First, for automated removal, it should probably have them install kubuntu-desktop as well. Second, the Karmic manual process won't work for Lucid since there were some Gnome packages that were added/removed that would need to be accounted for
[15:14] <bazhang> nhandler, okay thanks
[15:20] <ikonia> bazhang: to be honest - I don't believe he's telling the truth
[15:20] <ikonia> bazhang: he's saying he's tested this, yet he's asking how to partition the disk
[15:20] <ikonia> yet the other occasions he said he'd created/removed partitions
[15:20] <ikonia> this is the same guy who made the questionible comments about when I was free to "help community members"
[15:21] <bazhang> ikonia, okay. it's a fairly new kind of device; guess the next step is to ask how long the various partitioning schemes he is using take
[15:21] <bazhang> ikonia, yes I remember
[15:21] <IdleOne> Should I go with local version of grub-pc or install maintainers package?
[15:21] <IdleOne> oops wrong channel
[15:21] <bazhang> maintainers
[15:21] <IdleOne> ok
[15:21] <bazhang> whoops
[15:21] <IdleOne> wrong answer?
[15:21] <bazhang> reflex
[15:22] <bazhang> no right answer, wrong channel
[15:22] <IdleOne> went with maintainers even though I haven't made changes to grub-pc
[15:22] <IdleOne> thanks for the answer bazhang
[15:23] <bazhang> yw :)
[15:23]  * IdleOne would huggle you in #u but it's ot so...
[16:08] <bazhang> is ohir_ making any sense?
 bazhang: and I would like to know where deep packet inspection takes place
[16:10] <funkyHat> I think so, seems to be thinking someone's cutting off his net connection when he uses certain words
[16:10] <IdleOne> wow can someone do that?
[16:10] <Pici> freenode doesn't have the ability to do that, so its really not on-topic for #ubuntu
[16:11] <bazhang> he's just overreacting I am guessing
[16:11] <funkyHat> IdleOne: your ISP could, yes
[16:11] <funkyHat> it's doubtful that they *would* though
[16:12] <IdleOne> scary thought
[16:13] <funkyHat> Not if you use TLS though ⢁)
[16:14] <bazhang> he seems to be spreading FUD
[18:02] <bazhang> eol means not support for security updates only? or not supported in #ubuntu
[18:02] <mneptok> not supported in any way.
[18:02] <h00k> both
[18:02] <bazhang> the conversation with insider seems to have past that point
[18:03] <bazhang> err passed
[18:03] <mneptok> otherwise we'd have to answer questions on how to get Forefox 3.6.6 on Warty
[18:03] <bazhang> mneptok, nice :)
[18:13] <IdleOne> insider is giving me a headache :/
[18:13] <Pici> Is he even running Ubuntu?
[18:13] <IdleOne> I get the feeling he might not be
[18:13] <bazhang> says he's running 8.10
[18:13] <IdleOne> logged in as root on irc
[18:14] <bazhang> which is not supported, but sebsebseb just keeps dragging it out
[18:14] <IdleOne> indeed
[18:14] <Pici> Well, we can try to help get upgraded to 9.04
[18:14] <bazhang> he refuses
[18:14] <IdleOne> we have suggested it many times
[18:14] <Pici> Then its not supported.
[18:15] <bazhang> sebsebseb suggested debian
[18:15] <IdleOne> his original question 30 minutes ago was about konqueror
[18:15] <Pici> Also not supported in #ubuntu
[18:15] <IdleOne> I have not seen any answer to his question accept from maco who said she does not use it
[18:15] <mneptok> sebsebseb has been told *numerous* times he should not be recommending other distros in #u
[18:16] <bazhang> he does not even use Ubuntu himself, and misses lots of commands etc
[18:16] <maco2> Pici: konq's not supported in #u ?
[18:16] <h00k> sigh
[18:16] <Pici> maco2: 8.10 is not supported.
[18:16] <maco2> Pici: oh yeah i know that
[18:16] <bazhang> mandriva no less
[18:16] <maco2> Pici: i thought you were saying its 8.10 AND its kde stuff! two ways of not supported!
[18:16] <Pici> maco2: No, I meant that 8.10 and debian aren't supported.
[18:17] <maco2>  ohok
[18:17] <mneptok> i plan to try Mandriva when it is popular and has a bright future. of course, this means i will have to time-travel to 2003.
[18:17] <bazhang> hah
[18:17] <Pici> heh
[18:18] <mneptok> http://www.27bslash6.com/missy.html
[18:19] <maco2> i have a mandrake book somewhere around here
[18:19] <IdleOne> mneptok: I am selling tickets to 2003 starting in 2152. You can pre order now but I won't be able to send you confirmation till then.
[18:20] <Pici> IdleOne: Can I post-date my checks until then?
[18:20] <IdleOne> Pici: absolutely, but only you.
[18:22] <mneptok> IdleOne: i'll be 187 in 2152. i doubt it will matter much to me at that point in what year i'm eating pureed cream corn soiling myself.
[18:24] <IdleOne> mneptok: this is why yoy need to order your tickets now. at that point my great great great grand children will come back to 2010 for me I will have the list of customers and we will all go back to 2003
[18:24] <IdleOne> you*
[18:24] <IdleOne> I'm not just a pretty face :)
[18:24] <IdleOne> I got nice legs too :P
[18:25]  * h00k facepalms
[18:25] <IdleOne> hah
[18:50] <Mamarok> mneptok: but in 2003 it will be called Mandrake
[18:50]  * Mamarok threw away the Mandrake book not so long ago
[18:52] <mneptok> Mamarok: exactly.
[18:52] <h00k> we don't support custom-compiled kernels, do we?
[18:53] <bazhang> not afaik
[18:53] <IdleOne> nope
[18:53] <Mamarok> not at all, so much can go wrong
[18:53] <IdleOne> no way to know what the customization are
[19:46] <h00k> how long is the default timeout for /aq?
[19:46] <bazhang> forever?
[19:46] <nhandler> h00k: Isn't /at the one with the timeout, /aq is a normal quiet
[19:47] <h00k> d'aw....
[19:47] <h00k> shoot. okay.
[19:48] <maco2> can someone deal with the nickspam in -devel and +1 ?
[19:49] <maco2> nhandler: ?
[19:49] <nhandler> Yeah, I can look in
[19:49] <nhandler> Let me PM him first
[19:50] <h00k> I'll talk to sdfsdf in a pm/
[19:50] <Pici> h00k: sorry, I'll let you take care of him.
[19:50] <Pici> Sounds good
[19:52] <h00k> and they're no longer online
[19:52] <h00k> there were like three !enters, one !patience, I linked go !guidelines after +qing, and then removed after the language
[19:52] <bazhang> damienman
[19:54] <bazhang> he's just going to keep re-joining I would guess
[19:54] <ikonia> it's about to end
[19:54] <ikonia> there is a little group of them
[19:54] <bazhang> phunstar as well?
[19:54] <ikonia> yup
[19:54] <ikonia> all of them
[19:55] <h00k> bazhang: you beat me by like .2 seconds.
[19:55] <bazhang> h00k, hah
[19:55] <Pici> Phunstar is probably someone else.
[19:55] <Pici> The other 3 were all on the same host.
[19:56] <ikonia> still not behaving acceptable
[19:57] <bazhang> who are the other two?
[19:57] <ikonia> they are gone
[19:57] <ikonia> that daniel guy
[19:57] <bazhang> okay thanks
[19:57] <ikonia> damienmannn
[19:57] <ikonia> not daniel
[19:58] <bazhang> right and flsdffdx and then the first one
[19:58] <h00k> And I was going to be civil and pm :(
[20:00] <Pici> sdfsdf, damienmannn, flsdfklsdfhklsdf are all the same person.
[20:01] <h00k> affermative
[20:12] <h00k> ikonia: thank you
[20:27] <h00k> !rsa
[20:27] <h00k> oh, there isn't an RSA factoid.
[20:28] <ikonia> is there a need for one ?
[20:28] <h00k> probably not.
[20:28] <ikonia> (not in my head, doesn't mean I'm right though)
[20:30] <Pici> I think we could use an sshkeys factoid though.
[20:30] <ikonia> there is a guide on the wiki
[20:31] <Pici> Ah, yes, the !ssh factoid links there.
[20:32] <ikonia> people are idiots, why don't they read what people are asking before hitting random factoids