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Sarvattmight just throw this all in maverick edgers depending on how much it screws up upgrading, will see after everything builds01:15
RAOF:)01:16
Sarvattleaving lucid on 1.8.x for sure though01:16
Sarvattgot a refreshed bgnr patch that doesn't break the video abi finally so everything's fine, thats what was holding me back before because gdm was all kinds of screwed up without -nr support01:19
RAOFSweet!01:19
Sarvattfelt like i've been in australia for the past week, had to tiptoe around a 5GB bandwidth cap on my cell phone until I got net here :D01:23
RAOFHeh.01:26
RAOFI've chewed through 70% of my cap already this month; rollover date is the 27th.01:26
RAOFThat steam sale was a bit of a killer :)01:26
bjsniderluckily i'm uncapped01:28
johanbrRAOF, did you lose a bet?01:28
Sarvatti dont think i'm capped either because i used about 20gb last week on the phone but i coulda swore it was 5gb01:28
RAOFjohanbr: ?01:29
johanbrRAOF,  "I've chewed through 70% of my cap already"01:29
Sarvattso warewolf, got some logs for me to dig through to see about your touchscreen? :)01:29
johanbrsounds like you promised to eat your hat if...01:30
warewolfSarvatt: you're the third person I have involved in this now actually01:30
warewolfSarvatt: and each of you seem to be chiming in when the rest are idle :)01:30
Sarvatt/var/log/Xorg.0.log, dmesg would help01:30
warewolfSarvatt: in the mean time, enjoy my fireworks photos from yesterday: http://picasaweb.google.com/richard.harman/WashingtonDCFireworks20100704#01:30
RAOFjohanbr: :P01:31
warewolfSarvatt: actually I'm certain it isn't an X problem, it's a kernel problem.01:31
warewolfSarvatt: the hid-mosart driver isn't "attaching" to the hardware, and making a /dev/input device.01:31
warewolfSarvatt: want me to give you an account on the EeePC so you can mess with it directly or are you preoccupied01:32
Sarvattthat'd be perfect if you dont mind01:32
RAOFWoot!  One Q965 motherboard received.  Let's play “hunt that bug”!01:32
warewolfok just a sec01:32
warewolflemme find a crossover cable so I can stick this bad boy in a DMZ01:33
SarvattRAOF: Q965 is just a gma 950 derivative isn't it? you want a real 965!01:34
Sarvattyeah its a GMA 3000, just a souped up gen 301:35
warewolfGMA--01:35
warewolfpoulsbo--01:35
warewolfcrossover acquired01:36
Sarvatt\o/01:36
RAOFNo, I want me a Q965.01:36
Sarvattthanks richard, a lot faster if i can poke around on it :)01:36
RAOFSo I can unbreak resolution changing.01:37
warewolfSarvatt: I thought as much01:38
warewolfyaay01:47
RAOFAww, man.  Everyone with Q965 should totally run checkbox and do the randr cycle test.04:40
macodo what now?04:41
macois Q965 the same as i965?04:41
RAOFNope.04:42
RAOFIt's a GMA3000, not an X300004:42
RAOFImportant difference :)04:42
Sarvattugh what the heck, almost all drivers failed to build because of missing dependencies against xserver 1.8.99.90404:59
Sarvatti guess xserver-xorg-dev needs to pull in libxext-dev now?05:00
Sarvattwell its a lot more widespread than that, acecad just needed libxext but everything else is failing at compile time - https://edge.launchpad.net/~sarvatt/+archive/xorg-testing/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=maverick05:03
Sarvattthats a nasty looking list05:03
SarvattRAOF: want me to run it on 945 or do ya know its q965 specific?05:08
Sarvattthese packages all build fine locally, now i'm stumped..05:13
RAOFSarvatt: You're welcome to try, but I'm pretty sure it's 965-specific.05:13
RAOFLooks like CFLAGS isn't getting set correctly?05:21
Sarvattyeah none of the packages can find /usr/include/xorg05:31
Sarvattxorg-server.pc is fine, doesn't happen locally with the same packages, hmm05:32
Sarvattof course i dont have pbuilder set up or the space to set one up at the moment :(05:34
warewolfSarvatt: I thought you were going to bed :P05:36
Sarvattyeah then i saw like 50+ build failures i could upload and have ready when i wake up if i figure it out :)05:36
* warewolf is having fun helping a friend figure out WTF happened and how his box got hacked into05:36
warewolfhaha05:36
warewolfthis is the life of a geek05:37
Sarvatti'm stumped.. anyone have any idea why all of these packages aren't getting proper CFLAG's now when they build fine locally with the same packages? https://edge.launchpad.net/~sarvatt/+archive/xorg-testing/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=maverick07:13
Sarvatteverything builds fine against xserver 1.8.2, did that a few hours before trying against 1.8.99.90407:20
Sarvattguess i should compare the build deps on the ones that actually built right and see if its one of those07:26
RAOFMayhap.07:27
RAOFHm.  Is it a change in xorg-macros that's breaking it?07:31
Sarvatthmm07:32
RAOFx-x-v-intel, for example, doesn't ever explicitly AC_SUBST(XORG_CFLAGS) anywhere, but that's what it uses to pick up the include directories.07:32
Sarvatti built the server against 1.10 then built all those drivers against 1.8.99.904, and for 1.8.2 i already had the server built and just built the libs and drivers07:32
Sarvattso could be that07:33
Sarvattlessee what changed between 1.8.0 and 1.10.007:33
Sarvattjust doc stuff07:34
Sarvattxorg-server.pc added this in 1.8.99.904 - Requires.private: xproto >= 7.0.17 randrproto >= 1.2.99.3 renderproto >= 0.11 xextproto >= 7.0.99.3 inputproto >= 1.9.99.902 kbproto >= 1.0.3 fontsproto videoproto dri2proto >= 2.3 xineramaproto07:35
Sarvattits gotta be some build dep needing to be added because it builds fine locally just not on a ppa or pbuilder07:36
Sarvatthmm07:47
Sarvatteverything that built right has sdkdir=`$PKG_CONFIG --variable=sdkdir xorg-server` in configure.ac07:47
Sarvattdarn nope, just hadn't finished grepping yet07:48
RAOFSarvatt: xserver-xorg-dev is missing a depends on xineramaproto07:50
RAOFAt least, as of my reading of the package and the xorg-server.pc file.07:51
Sarvattahhhhhhhh i ran into that problem a few weeks ago too, lets see if that fixes it07:52
Sarvattthanks so much RAOF 07:52
RAOFNo problem whatsoever.  I'd like to update to 1.8.99.904 in Maverick/experimental soon, so you're helping tremendously.07:53
Sarvattbingo!07:56
Sarvattthat's all it was07:58
Sarvattsheesh, can't thank you enough, i should have been asleep 4 hours ago :)07:58
Sarvattnow to hit rebuild 100 times after the new server builds07:59
* Sarvatt ponders jumping to japan and just reuploading everything again instead08:02
RAOFSarvatt: Would you like *me* to hit those rebuild buttons?08:42
Sarvattcould just copy it all to edgers :)08:45
Sarvattcant hit rebuild until the server is closer to building, was 4 hours last i looked08:47
Sarvattand its in a personal ppa so ya cant hit rebuild08:47
Sarvatttormod didn't want a crackier ppa on edgers team than edgers and would rather me put the crack in there but i get 100+ emails when favicons go transparent because of cairo so i'm a little conservative in there and build big things in my ppa first... :D08:50
Sarvattits good to go for edgers maverick though, just need a few drivers not in pkg-xorg like tslib08:51
Sarvattsheesh, i386 queue time goes up every time i look.. amd64 is all rebuilding now though09:38
seb128Sarvatt, it's a queue of langpack builds but it seems to have lower priority than uploads so should not be an issue09:57
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Sarvattso wacom needs updating, and acecad/citron don't build against 1.8.99.904 but otherwise everything is good17:38
Sarvattof course this is with everything from git, will probably run into problems using released versions of things17:40
Sarvattah hell, binary copied xserver and it hadn't been published yet when the drivers started building18:19
brycehheya Sarvatt, welcome back!18:23
Sarvattheyo bryceh! sorry had to run out for a bit19:31
Sarvattdarnit, can't copy nvidia-graphics-drivers from maverick to x-updates because maverick's is using a different orig.tar.gz20:13
Sarvattdeleted it from x-updates a day ago and its still saying the orig.tar.gz exists in the ppa even though it doesnt20:14
Sarvattlooks like the package makes its own orig.tar.gz now too so i cant just make a debian native without one to get around it, and changing the version to something like 256.35+xup1 makes it try to look for .run's with that name20:15
Sarvattmaybe it'll let me upload just not copy20:20
brycehcould be20:22
brycehif it's totally stuck, put a request in via Answers for someone to take a loo20:22
bryceh+k20:23
bjsniderSarvatt, just repackage it20:44
Sarvatti've been trying20:46
Sarvattits all screwed up now20:46
SarvattRejected:20:46
SarvattFile nvidia-graphics-drivers_256.35.orig.tar.gz already exists in Primary Archive for Ubuntu, but uploaded version has different contents20:46
Sarvattprimary archive for ubuntu?20:46
bjsniderfor that series20:47
Sarvattlucid20:47
bjsniderso install the source package, then do debuild -S -sd and upload20:47
Sarvattit got rejected, i did that as well20:48
Sarvattoh maybe i packaged that for maverick by mistake that time20:48
Sarvattnope20:48
SarvattVersion: 256.35-0ubuntu0sarvatt2~lucid20:48
SarvattDistribution: lucid20:48
bjsnideri didn't know hte 256 driver had been officially packaged for lucid20:50
Sarvatti think its just screwed because I tried copying it and it failed20:51
Sarvattchecking changes20:51
bjsnideryou tried copying it from maverick to lucid?20:51
Sarvattyeah20:51
Sarvattrebuild copying20:51
bjsniderfrom official maverick to ppa lucid?20:52
Sarvattyeah i do it all the time20:52
bjsniderso why did it fail?20:52
Sarvatthttps://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+copy-packages?field.name_filter=nvidia&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=maverick20:52
Sarvattit says the orig.tar.gz is already exists in the PPA20:52
bjsniderit does20:52
Sarvattbut it doesn't, and its not on any of the sources lists20:52
bjsnideryou put it there20:52
Sarvatti deleted it 24 hours ago20:52
Sarvattso i could copy the official one since its different20:53
bjsniderit takes a week for the deleted stuff to actually be deleted20:53
Sarvattsince when?20:53
bjsnideri dunno, ever i guess20:53
Sarvattits not on the ppa or in any of the sources when i look at the lists directly20:53
Sarvattit only took about 2 hours a few weeks ago20:53
bigjoolsHi - you can't overwrite file versions with different contents - ever.20:53
bjsnideryeah, it's removed from the list20:53
bjsniderthat's right too20:54
bjsniderthere can only every be one source package with that unique name20:54
bjsnideryou can never replace it20:54
* bigjools is the lead dev for Soyuz20:54
Sarvattit's worked in the past, but i've never done it while copying, but i am positive i have done it in the past many times with strictly uploaded sources20:55
bjsniderbigjools, so what does he do, upload the one he deleted again?20:55
bigjoolsit's impossible to overwrite a file with different contents, you've never done it I can assure you :)20:55
bigjoolsthe easiest thing is to bump the version if you can and upload it again20:56
bjsniderhe cannot bump the version and keep it accurate20:56
bigjoolsI've never tried uploading a deleted one again, it might work20:56
bjsniderhe'd have to change the resulting package name by adding a dash somewhere after the .3520:56
Sarvattthats what I mean I've done in the past before many times20:56
Sarvattbut yeah I can't alter the version on this package in a way that it'll accept, crap :(20:57
bigjoolsdarn20:57
bjsniderSarvatt, try uploading the source package you originally created for the ppa20:57
bjsnidernot the maverick one20:57
Sarvatti did :(20:57
bjsniderit rejected it?20:57
Sarvattit's stuck saying it exists in primary archive for ubuntu20:57
bjsniderok, when is nvidia releasing a new driver?20:58
Sarvattand contents different20:58
bjsnidernow would be a good time20:58
Sarvattyeah tell me about it, won't be doing that again :)20:58
bigjoolsSarvatt: that means you're uploading to Ubuntu, not a PPA20:58
Sarvattbigjools: I copied it from primary archive for ubuntu and it's screwed up where it thinks the file is, i'm positive it's going to the PPA20:59
SarvattUploading to x-updates (via ftp to ppa.launchpad.net):20:59
bigjoolswhat upload path?20:59
Sarvattfqdn = ppa.launchpad.net21:00
Sarvattmethod = ftp21:00
Sarvattincoming = ~ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates/ubuntu21:00
bigjoolsok21:00
bigjoolsthe error is misleading because the file was copied from  Ubuntu21:00
bigjoolsbleh21:00
Sarvattyeah only it wasn't really copied because it had an error so it's kinda stuck in limbo21:00
bigjoolsso, how long ago did you delete the package?21:00
bjsniderbut the point remains it's still complaining about the source package name21:00
Sarvatt24 hours or so21:00
Sarvattaha!21:01
Sarvatt[PPA ubuntu-x-swat-x-updates] [ubuntu/lucid] nvidia-graphics-drivers 256.35-0ubuntu2~xup (Accepted)21:01
bigjoolsok you can resurrect it by copying it within the PPA I think21:01
Sarvattwoot21:01
bigjoolsFWIW you can refer to .orig files in Ubuntu from your PPA as well21:01
Sarvatti tried that but the .orig isn't really available and it got rejected21:02
Sarvattthanks for the help bigjools, got it worked out :)21:02
bigjoolsthis is why the UI to copy files from Ubuntu is not linked anywhere :)21:02
bigjoolsit's got issues21:03
Sarvattyeah definitely going to be more careful with it in the future :)21:03
bigjoolsanyway, you're welcome21:03
bjsniderit should have stopped him from trying to do this in the first place21:03
bigjoolswhy should it have done that?21:03
Sarvatti dont see how it could, this is a really fringe problem21:03
bjsniderhe was trying to overwrite an already-existing source package with another of the same name but different contents21:04
bigjoolshmmm21:04
bjsniderit shoul dhave looked at the ppa contents and said "you don't wanna do that, sparky"21:04
bigjoolscan you file a bug please?  I can take a look.21:04
* Sarvatt tries to figure out how to explain the situation in a bug21:05
bigjoolsbugs.launchpad.net/soyuz21:05
bigjoolsjust say what you did, exactly21:05
bjsniderthere's something it stops you from doing, which is rebuilding a package in a new series but keeping the same package name. that is a good policy, to just say "no" when someone tries to do something that would violate the rules21:08
Sarvattwriting up the bug I'm not really sure it's a bug outside of it saying the orig.tar.gz existed in the primary archive for ubuntu, in the end it did accept a package with my original orig.tar.gz21:12
Sarvatt(saying it existed already in the rejected mail)21:12
Sarvattman, I'm even more confused now, the orig.tar.gz it accepted was actually the one copied from the archive!21:14
bjsniderwas there any difference between that one and your original orig fie in terms of contents?21:15
Sarvattthe one in the archive uses the nocompat32 .run21:15
Sarvattfor x6421:16
bjsniderwhat? why?21:16
Sarvattit uses the 32 bit .run contents directly21:16
bjsnideri see21:16
Sarvattit had to  have actually deleted my orig.tar.gz with the same name and copied the one from the archive over because this one it accepted really is the archive one21:18
Sarvattdpkg-source: info: building nvidia-graphics-drivers using existing nvidia-graphics-drivers_256.35.orig.tar.gz21:19
Sarvatti opened up that orig.tar.gz and it's got the nocompat32.run in it21:19
bjsniderthen the original error doesn't make sense21:20
Sarvattyeah for sure.. i'm totally lost21:20
bjsniderbigjools, it takes a week for files to actually disappear from a ppa once they are deleted, right?21:21
Sarvatt 871f54c6c8e0b30fcb5fec40fe3eed7b7081203c 49082614 nvidia-graphics-drivers_256.35.orig.tar.gz << the uploaded one it accepted  f8ec98f1d0deef487e60f8435ce8ccc7e3f30bd4 65596688 nvidia-graphics-drivers_256.35.orig.tar.gz << my original one i deleted21:21
bigjoolsfrom the repo. 15 minutes or so, from inside Launchpad it takes a week21:21
bjsniderbigjools, in other words, launchpad still thinks they're there for a week?21:23
Sarvatthttp://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates/ubuntu/pool/main/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers/21:23
bigjoolsno, it just keeps a copy in the librarian in case you want to keep it21:23
bigjoolsfor downloading later21:23
Sarvattdefinitely the one from the maverick archive in there, i only uploaded the diff21:23
bjsniderthat error message would happen if you had tried to copy a maverick package into the ppa into the maverick series. i don't see why it would happen if copying into the lucid series21:25
warewolfSarvatt: hey, I figured out how to get dhcpd working on two interfaces, so it should be easier to into my EeePC now.23:28

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