[00:00] <indrora> Dragnslicer: unfortunately, you need to push a win7 box
[00:00] <indrora> dragonriot*
[00:00] <MaMoUs> dragonriot: oky here is waht u need to do
[00:00] <slidinghorn> nerdy_kid, ok, I'll do some digging and see if I can find a solution...
[00:00] <MaMoUs> dragonriot: first format the USB desk u want
[00:00] <slidinghorn> zoidberg-, it was aimed at everyone...the room was getting way OT...
[00:00] <willwork4foo> right - since I will be getting woken up at 5am by my 10 month old son, and it's now midnight, I am going to hit the sack
[00:00] <willwork4foo> night all - have a good one
[00:01] <nerdy_kid> slidinghorn thanks man :D
[00:01] <Aethnen> how do i find out what my sound daemon is?
[00:01] <wbf> i am uploading a script to my ppa at launchpad-- but its only a single script.  if i am creating the rules file package for my "source code" (i.e. the single script lol) does the rules (or makefile) just need to say "move it to /usr/bin?"
[00:01] <indrora> Aethnen: on 9.04 it was alsa.
[00:01] <indrora> Aethnen: so you'd want to try sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restat
[00:01] <rg58sma> Any solutions for
[00:01] <dragonriot> problem indrora is that I don't have a windows 7 DVD.... rather... I don't have a working DvD drive on my computer anymore, so I need to make that flash drive from Linux... there's no other way to get Windows on the machine.
[00:01] <indrora> if that doesn't work, something else is wrong.
[00:01] <rg58sma> http://pastebin.com/UqLxjUa6
[00:01] <MaMoUs> dragonriot: then go to     System>administration>StartUp Dick Creator
[00:02] <indrora> dragonriot: dd the image.
[00:02] <Aethnen> indrora did you mean "restart" or "restat"
[00:02] <MaMoUs> dragonriot: soo what step are u now in ?
[00:02] <indrora> dragonriot: dd if=(iso_path) of=(path_to_usb_disk)
[00:02] <indrora> Aethnen: restart
[00:02] <Aethnen> indrora thanks
[00:03] <Bragex9> ok... i am now able to share folders on my ubuntu pc. The only thing that is strange is that each shared folder comes up double on my xp computer. What is tcausing the bug here?
[00:03] <psych787> Why is kubuntu not offered as a larger DVD with more default packages?
[00:03] <dragonriot> MaMoUs: I have the ISO, and I have a bootable flash drive that I previously has Ubuntu 9.10 on...
[00:03] <MaMoUs> dragonriot: ur running ubuntu 9.10 ? or 10.04 ?
[00:03] <dragonriot> MaMoUs: I know I can DD the image to the flash drive, but how do I make the flashdrive bootable from Linux?
[00:03] <dragonriot> running 10.04
[00:04] <slidinghorn> nerdy_kid, stupid question, but is this a bash script?
[00:04] <MaMoUs> dragonriot: ok open the startup desk creator
[00:04] <dragonriot> ok
[00:04] <MaMoUs> dragonriot: in the first box it is empty ?
[00:04] <Aethnen> indrora i don't think it's correct because it said command not found
[00:05] <nerdy_kid> slidinghorn no, its a .desktop file for dolphin (kde filemanager if you didnt know) but it doesnt actually matter, however the "Exec" line is treated like a bash script
[00:05] <dragonriot> MaMoUs: yes... I've located and selected my Win7 iso...
[00:05] <MaMoUs> dragonriot: choose other and locate Ur .iso file of windows 7
[00:05] <MaMoUs> cool ^^
[00:05] <MaMoUs> dragonriot: now choose the usb desk u want it
[00:06] <MaMoUs> dragonriot: after u choose it click erase Disk
[00:06] <dragonriot> ok, done.
[00:06] <kingwooky> can some one help me... one of my computers with Ubuntu on it is not booting
[00:07] <MaMoUs> dragonriot: did it finish eraseing ?
[00:07] <MaMoUs> dragonriot: erasing *
[00:07]  * ufuk_izgi Hi all
[00:07] <dragonriot> yes, but it's not allowing me to select the win7 ISO now.
[00:07] <MaMoUs> dragonriot: now click
[00:07] <MaMoUs> dragonriot: dude was the .iso file inside the USB ?
[00:07] <trism> nerdy_kid: you can use: basename path; though it might be more straightforward from a script than a huge one-liner
[00:08] <dragonriot> no... it's on my passport. lol
[00:08] <MaMoUs> try to locat it again
[00:08] <MaMoUs> locate *
[00:08] <MaMoUs> dragonriot: click on other in above and locate it afain
[00:08] <MaMoUs> dragonriot: again*
[00:08] <nerdy_kid> trism i am a total newb at programing of any type, what do you mean?
[00:09] <slidinghorn> nerdy_kid, ok...it's a little over my head, but I found a couple links that might be helpful...it does have to do with basename as trism said:  1. http://bashscripts.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=365   2. http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/string-manipulation.html
[00:09] <cjae> nobody knows?
[00:09] <dragonriot> I located and used the same ISO again, and it does not allow it.... no error message, just doesn't let me pick it.
[00:10] <TheSkeward> I'm new to linux, using 10.04,  and trying to get my wireless connection set up at my university.  I believe I have the driver for my belkin adapter correctly installed, but when I follow the directions on the uni's "how to connect to the wireless network with ubuntu), it doesn't connect.  I have no idea what I'm missing.  Can anyone help me?
[00:10] <trism> nerdy_kid: the basename command prints the trailing part of a path, so: basename /usr/bin/sort; prints just sort, which seems like what you wanted
[00:10] <MaMoUs> dragonriot: close the startup desk creator and run it again
[00:11] <kingwooky> can some one help me?.. One of my computers with Ubuntu on it is not booting. all there is is a white line blinking
[00:11] <dragonriot> moving the iso to my home folder, and re-running the program... I'll get back to you if it doesn't work...  Thank you MaMoUs
[00:11] <kingwooky> im using version 2.6.32-23
[00:12] <kingwooky> anyone?
[00:12] <kingwooky> lil help
[00:12] <nerdy_kid> slidinghorn trism thanks guys that did it :D  the first post slidinghorn gave me was what i was looking for and trism shortened the code up, thanks guys :)
[00:12] <twek> king i dont know much but i got that when the grub loader wasnt recognizing the kernel
[00:12] <MaMoUs> kingwooky: what is the problem ?
[00:13] <Albert-PE> help?
[00:13] <Albert-PE> hostname
[00:13] <cjae> 1378 ppl and nobodys knows :(
[00:13] <kingwooky> ok today when i booted my computer after the bios loaded all there is is a white line flashing
[00:13] <kingwooky> in the top left
[00:13] <ufuk_izgi> how can I learn which packages I need for  xautomation
[00:14] <kingwooky> i tried holding down shift and running a different version but it does the same thing
[00:14] <MaMoUs> kingwooky: restart ur pc and when the bios loader keep pressing (Shift key)
[00:14] <kingwooky> 2.6.32-23 and 2.6.32-21 both dont work
[00:15] <indrora> kingwooky: Had any thunderstorms recently?
[00:15] <slidinghorn> cjae, i didn't catch your question, however please note that the people in here are all volunteers, and sometimes answers aren't available.  You can always try http://help.ubuntu.com or search the forums http://ubuntuforums.org while you wait...for now, please describe your problem in full detail including what you've done, what you expected to happen, what actually happened and what error messages you were given
[00:15] <kingwooky> no
[00:15] <MaMoUs> kingwooky: even if u choose root ?
[00:15] <ufuk_izgi> anybody knows how can I learn which packages I need for  xautomation
[00:15] <kingwooky> how do i choose root?
[00:15] <trism> cjae: if you want to use the proprietary driver, use nvidia-settings to configure it and save an xorg.conf
[00:16] <AndChat> Hi
[00:16] <MaMoUs>  kingwooky: 1 min i see ^^
[00:16] <kingwooky> ok i have tried even running the recoveryies for both versions and they just stop at a certian point
[00:16] <bigleon> So is it safe to say if my other OS keeps Blue screening me but Linux isn't that my Windoze os is fudged and needs a clean install?
[00:17] <Vooloo> my middle mouse button stopped working, any way to activate it again?
[00:17] <zenom> my ubuntu vm on virtualbox keeps going to the "install screen" is there a way around that/ I don't have a disk in the drive
[00:17] <Coder7> bigleon: did you try and install linux onto a drive that contained windows?
[00:17] <MaMoUs> kingwooky: when u enter the recovery there is a choice up there called root command port ??
[00:18] <LifeEscalade> anyone know how to show status of services running in ubuntu?
[00:18] <slidinghorn> Vooloo, what function did it lose specifically?
[00:18] <dugger5688> zenom: Do you have the .iso mounted?
[00:18] <zenom> dugger5688: no I double checked that too
[00:18] <kingwooky> how do i get to it... when i run the recovery a bunch of code flys down the screen
[00:18] <kingwooky> ill tell you what it stops at
[00:18] <bigleon> Yeah Coder7, different os on same HD with df partions
[00:18] <Vooloo> slidinghorn: well it didnt stop working, I have to press harder, not sure if it is some kind of sensitivity setting or the actual mouse :P
[00:18] <MaMoUs> kingwooky: before the recovery there is some choices
[00:19] <kingwooky> ok so im running the version 2.6.32-23 recovery
[00:19] <kingwooky> ya
[00:19] <cesar_CR> hello all, I'am having problems traying to install ubuntu 10.04, 9.10 worked great but whrn booting the cd I get BUG:soft lockup CPU#0 stuck for 61s
[00:19] <kingwooky> the gurb menu right
[00:19] <kingwooky> grub*
[00:19] <MaMoUs> ya
[00:19] <Coder7> bigleon: windows can be VERY finicky about stuff. you can probably recover data off the partition easily within Linux, but windows may require a re-install
[00:19] <slidinghorn> Vooloo, from that description it sounds like the mouse itself...as far as I know there isn't any setting for the sensitivity of the mouse buttons themselves
[00:19] <kingwooky> ya i can choose a couple of things
[00:19] <zenom> dugger5688: ahh the settings in virtualbox had it set to the iso as the secondary ide slow.
[00:19] <zenom> slot
[00:19] <tomatto_> please, is better program instead of parted for resizing ntfs partition?
[00:19] <cesar_CR> I've tried with noacpi but nothing works
[00:19] <bigleon> Coder7 I'm not to worried about it all my "goodies" are on a sperate partion from my windows parition
[00:19] <dugger5688> zenom: glad you found it :-)
[00:20] <Mqueue> anyway to decrypt sha1 ?
[00:20] <MaMoUs> kingwooky: oky now there is soemthing called repair broken packes ? yes ?
[00:20] <slidinghorn> cesar_CR, have you verified the md5 of the iso?
[00:20] <kingwooky> version 2.6.32-23 boot.... version 2.6.32-23 recovery.... version 2.6.32-21 boot... 2.6.32-21 recovery... and memtest
[00:20] <kingwooky> no
[00:20] <akula> !LIST
[00:20] <Ebuntu> !pastebin
[00:20] <Coder7> bigleon: I followed identical steps on two machines that involved resizing a windows partition. One blue screened, the other didn't. Windows is stupid like that.
[00:20] <Vooloo> slidinghorn: its one of these logitechs that activates superscrolling in windows, when you click the middle mouse the wheel turns faster... which is unsupported in linux but might affect the behaviour i guess
[00:20] <bigleon> Coder7 what i'm thinking about doing is is freshinstalling both win7 and ubuntu because they don't seem to be behaving.
[00:20] <cesar_CR> slidinghorn, yes it is fine, the same media works in another PC
[00:20] <MaMoUs> kingwooky: choose the seconed one
[00:21] <bigleon> Coder7 OHH you think resizing partition is what is BSIng my Win7?
[00:21] <akula> !list
[00:21] <Coder7> bigleon: yes, quite likely
[00:21] <dugger5688> bigleon: I haven't ever had a problem when Ubuntu does the resize.
[00:21] <kingwooky> ok
[00:21] <cjae> trism: doesnt work, wont write it
[00:21] <LifeEscalade> anyone know how to show status of services that are running/not running?
[00:21] <bigleon> Coder7 Well it wouldn't hurt... Thing sucks i'll be going home to some "shitter-net" with very slow speeds so getting my apps will take ample time
[00:21] <Coder7> bigleon: if you are having issues with windows blue screening, I'd fresh install, but make sure windows leaves enough space
[00:22] <skreet> LifeEscalade, service --status-all might be what you're looking for
[00:22] <twek> bigleon- moving the partition on widows does do stupid things to it sometimes
[00:22] <kingwooky> its stops at usb mass storage registered
[00:22] <slidinghorn> cesar_CR, are you doing a fresh install or an upgrade?
[00:22] <dugger5688> I think windows is just stupid in general.
[00:23] <bigleon> Coder7 I was afraid that ubuntu's grub loader was messing with things, and i want to be able to set it so it auto loads Win7 Instead of Ubuntu I mainly use ubuntu for my nerd stuff lol while win7 for school/gaming
[00:23] <MaMoUs> kingwooky: well that is weird it is the first time i see this
[00:23] <cesar_CR> slidinghorn, fresh install
[00:23] <MaMoUs> kingwooky: i'm sorry i don't know what to say
[00:23] <MaMoUs> kingwooky: try google ^^
[00:23] <kingwooky> if i click e on the grub menu it shows more option? do they do anything important?
[00:23] <skreet> bigleon, Did you install Ubuntu before or after windows on the disk?  (i.e. what is the windows partition #)
[00:23] <Ebuntu> google? who uses that anymore :P
[00:23] <MaMoUs> kingwooky: what options
[00:23] <cesar_CR> slidinghorn, I trayed upgrading but It was worst, had to downgrade to 9.04 that one works
[00:23] <wombatman> me
[00:24] <MaMoUs> Ebuntu: hahahaa what do u use then ?
[00:24] <bigleon> skreet after windows parition. Windows is part C, My storage part is D and then ubuntu got E
[00:24] <kingwooky> i have tried google ... some people think it might be nvidia not knowing where the kernel is or somthing
[00:24] <kingwooky> with the new update
[00:24] <Ebuntu> Mamous, my psychic powwwers
[00:24] <skreet> bigleon, Windows drive letters arn't the same as partition numbers.  Could you do an `fdisk -l /dev/sda` as root and pastebin the results?
[00:24] <skreet> bigleon, To be clear, Windows will perserve itself as "C" even if it's sda8 or higher :)
[00:24] <Coder7> bigleon: you may want to virtualize one or the other. if you game in windows, you can virtualize ubuntu
[00:24] <MaMoUs> Ebuntu: hahaah .... XD do u know any thing about my problem ?
[00:25] <kingwooky> uhmm
[00:25] <kingwooky> one sec
[00:25] <MaMoUs> kingwooky: try go insdie the bios and disable the USB
[00:25] <MaMoUs> kingwooky: and then go to recovery mode and tell me what happen
[00:25] <Coder7> bigleon: I used to dual boot, but I found I liked the virtualization option much more
[00:26] <kingwooky> recordfail... insmod ext2... set root = (hd0,1)... and other long ones
[00:26] <LifeEscalade> hmmmm ps -A shows that apache2 is running, but when I tried to view my webpage today it doesnt show up
[00:26] <kingwooky> ok
[00:26] <LifeEscalade> nor does my webmin work
[00:26] <slidinghorn> cesar_CR, still looking but found one possible solution here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9283461&postcount=9
[00:26] <Ebuntu> LifeEscalade, You runnun a server?
[00:26] <LifeEscalade> Ebuntu: yes
[00:27] <LifeEscalade> Ebuntu: 10.04
[00:27] <LifeEscalade> check http://zomg.hopto.org and see if it loads for anyone
[00:27] <cesar_CR> slidinghorn, ok I will try right now if I can do that on cd boot time
[00:28] <skreet> LifeEscalade, it's not accepting connections on port 80, nor is it actively denying them.  My guess is your firewall is not forwarding the port to the correct host.
[00:28] <LifeEscalade> gah
[00:28] <LifeEscalade> damnit
[00:29] <LifeEscalade> and that could be due to a router reset, huh?
[00:29] <kingwooky> same thing
[00:29] <skreet> LifeEscalade, Well, the port forward rule probably didn't go away -- but if you're using DHCP it's likely your host's IP has changed.
[00:29] <skreet> LifeEscalade, If you're hosting something in your house, I would recommend using a statically assigned IP outside of the DHCP scope.
[00:30] <kingwooky> ok this is all it says
[00:30] <kingwooky> well the bottom part anyways
[00:30] <LifeEscalade> well, my static ip hasnt changed from comcast. most likely the internal lan ip has and the port forwarded is to a different lan ip
[00:30] <cesar_CR> slidinghorn, with F6 there's a way to use that parameter, will see if it not hangs
[00:30] <LifeEscalade> lol gotta love getting an answer then answering the rest of my question :DS
[00:30] <LifeEscalade> :D*
[00:31] <skreet> LifeEscalade, Right, that's what I mean.  DHCP on your home firewall got reset so hosts obtained IP in first-come-first-server manner, different from before.
[00:31] <pundit> 'apt-cache show package' shows very reasonable dependencies, while 'apt-get install package' wants to install packages which might not be necessary. Why the difference?
[00:31] <skreet> pundit, Crazy question:  what's the package and what ubuntu version? :)
[00:34] <steuz> hola, does someone knows how to rotate ubuntu display?
[00:34] <LifeEscalade> skreet: now is there any way to have my server have a static lan ip so that way if i do reset my router due to unforseen issues, it will always get the same lan ip that way i dont have to keep editing my port forwarding?
[00:34] <steuz> i'd like to make an ebook reader out my eeepc
[00:35] <kingwooky> low) -> IRQ 19 [ 2.828178] usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [ 2.837404] Initializing USB mass storage driver [ 2.837566] scsi2 : SCSI emulation for USB mass storage devices [ 2.837734] usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage [ 2.837801] USB Mass Storage support registered.
[00:35] <kingwooky> is what it says
[00:35] <Ebuntu> !pastebin
[00:35] <skreet> LifeEscalade, Sure, use an IP outside of your DHCP range.  For example if your router is 192.168.1.1, and your router gives out (you can get this range from your configuration page) 192.168.1.100-192.168.1.200, give your server 192.168.1.50.  Be sure to get the subnet mask and DNS server addresses that are normally assigned via DHCP.
[00:36] <pundit> skreet its jaunty, and a lot of packages are concerned. for instance smartmontools. apt-cache shows everything right, but apt-get install wants to install exim and a lot of mail stuff, which is not necessary for monitoring a disk
[00:36] <LifeEscalade> skreet: now i would have to edit that within ubuntu, correct?
[00:36] <skreet> LifeEscalade, If this is Ubuntu Server, you have to edit /etc/network/interfaces where it says 'iface eth0 inet dhcp'.  Let me see if I can find a guide on doing this.  If it's Ubuntu Desktop, you can use the GUI.
[00:37] <kingwooky> ok here
[00:37] <kingwooky> http://paste.ubuntu.com/459625/
[00:37] <Vooloo> I installed a new gnome theme, it sits in .themes but does not show up under Appearance
[00:37] <LifeEscalade> Skreet: i do have kde installed on the server :P
[00:37] <LifeEscalade> im nuskool like that
[00:37] <skreet> LifeEscalade, "nuskool"? :P
[00:37] <Ebuntu> newschool
[00:37] <acovrig> Why doesn't the test at the end of https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/email-services.html work?
[00:38] <stercor> I'm looking for a decent music library/player program.  I'm pleased with Window's Winamp.  Is there anything like that in Ubuntu?  I've tried Rythmbox, exaile, mplayer, ...
[00:38] <skreet> LifeEscalade, I don't know how to configure networks in Kubuntu so feel free to use the GUI if you feel comfortable.  Otherwise you have to edit /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf.
[00:38] <cesar_CR> slidinghorn, still hangs traying to install 10.04 LTS :(
[00:38] <skreet> LifeEscalade, Ebuntu,  I got it, I just don't consider it newschool -- in real server environments you don't have X helpers!
[00:38] <skreet> And frankly, you don't want them -- gunk up the works.
[00:38] <Ebuntu> makes it slooweer
[00:39] <Ebuntu>  
[00:39] <kingwooky> can anyone help me my computer with ubuntu on it wont boot
[00:39] <BluesKaj> not everyone is a purist
[00:39] <LifeEscalade> well, its not really gonna be a major site. just for a blackberry repair service im starting
[00:39] <LifeEscalade> mainly a jump off page to put on business cards
[00:39] <cesar_CR> I'am still getting BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 61s!, BIOS fail safe could help ?
[00:40] <skreet> cesar_CR:  VirtualBox?
[00:40] <jowens> how to get phone support for ubuntu problem in NYC
[00:40] <cesar_CR> skreet, nop my home PC :(
[00:40] <skreet> jowens, You'd have to have a support contract to get phone support, I believe.
[00:40] <Ebuntu> virtualbox is a enviroment for installing Os's
[00:40] <amine> hey, anyone know of a browser with flash support that will save all downloaded files in cache?
[00:41] <skreet> cesar_CR, Oh.  I had that very same issue with VirtualBox -- I needed to upgrade it.  Not sure...
[00:41] <skreet> amine,  side question:  why do you want it to save all files in a cache?  there may be a better solution to what you're trying to do.
[00:42] <amine> skreet: I want to grab all mp3 files that are downloaded using http
[00:42] <pundit> skreet see for instance when i want to install mutt it wants to install exim. THATs crazy. any idea?
[00:42] <skreet> pundit, I don't have that version installed let me see what 10.04 says.
[00:43] <skreet> amine,  Are they all from a particular page?  You could use a recursive wget to save them all.
[00:43] <cesar_CR> skreet, hummm I do not know what to do... :s
[00:43] <skreet> pundit,  Does yours look like this Recommends: default-mta | mail-transport-agent, locales, mime-support, libsasl2-modules
[00:44] <jowens> i tried to join ubuntu but was unable--cant use email on ubuntu so tried from another (Mac and then windows) could not.
[00:44] <amine> skreet: they are not listed in the source. They are retrieved using AJAX and the only place where you can get them are either browser cache, or use a packet sniffer and grab the URL then re-download within 30 seconds of the original request (or else session times out for that mp3 file)
[00:44] <skreet> amine, Ah, very tricky.
[00:45] <amine> skreet: yup. I need them within the hour otherwise I'd write the downloader myself
[00:45] <skreet> amine,  And it's Flash that streams the audio so to be honest I don't know that the browser cache even comes in to play.
[00:45] <jowens> is there anyway to email someone in ubuntu help?
[00:45] <amine> skreet: it does :)
[00:45] <skreet> amine, I mean, is the *browser* even downloading the files, or is Adobe Flash libflashplayer.so doing it?
[00:45] <skreet> amine, Oh okay.
[00:45] <amine> skreet: the browser is downloading them from an akamai source :-)
[00:45] <pundit> skreet no. after doing the 'apt-get install' it says: 'installing the following new packages' and lists things like exim, which mutt for sure does not depend on! is there maybe a switch to make apt-get install only what is really neeeded?
[00:46] <kingwooky> anyone here know how to bind a static ip to a program?
[00:46] <skreet> amine,  I don't know how the site works, but perhaps a greasemonkey script if you're creative with JavaScript :]
[00:46] <upgrdman> how do i assign what function my mouse's extra buttons perform? prefs > mouse doesn't seem to have the option
[00:46] <nsh> often, it goes down like this: i download some software source code, try to compile it, make conks out with a load of incomprehensible errors, i have to scan through to find out what missing file caused gcc to asplode
[00:46] <amine> skreet: it's for grooveshark, basically.
[00:46] <skreet> pundit,  Does mutt depend on 'default-mta' though.  I think default-mta is a metapackage that can include exim.
[00:47] <skreet> pundit, *depend on or recommend
[00:47] <nsh> then i have to work out what library would contain that file, search the apt-cache for the right package name, and manually install it
[00:47] <nsh> rinse lather repeat
[00:47] <kingwooky> anyone here know how to bind a static ip to a program??
[00:47] <nsh> how do i make this not be a part of my life?
[00:47] <pundit> skreet that makes sense. thanks.
[00:47] <skreet> nsh,  Most programs come with a "configure" script -- are you running this first?  It checks for required libraries and provides much more usable output.
[00:48] <sam_> I've just bought a new laptop, and installed Ubuntu, but cannot get the sound to work.  Can anyone help me?
[00:48] <cesar_CR> amine there is a firefox plugin that may work,
[00:48] <amine> cesar_CR: which one?
[00:48] <cesar_CR> amine, searching the name one minute
[00:48] <Guest21297> Hey everyone.. I just installed Ubuntu 10.04 and I'm trying to add the Ubuntu disk as a source with the Synaptic Package Manager - however, when I do that it gives me an error message: "E: Failed to mount the cdrom." Any idea how I can go about fixing this?
[00:48] <kingwooky> anyone here know how to bind a static ip to a program???
[00:48] <Coder7> sam_: have you googled the laptop model + the word "ubuntu" ?
[00:49] <sam_> yes
[00:49] <cesar_CR> video download helper https://addons.mozilla.org/es-ES/firefox/addon/3006/?src=api
[00:49] <nsh> skreet, often it does, sometimes it only checks a few things and you still have to manually resolve dependencies. make and configure are basically 80's technology that haven't been improved upon in a generation, and for the life of me i can't see why...
[00:49] <skreet> kingwooky,  What program?
[00:49] <jowens> jowens has to quit
[00:49] <kingwooky> starcraft
[00:49] <skreet> kingwooky,  You're referring to your local IP address on your system?
[00:49] <cesar_CR> amine, video download helper
[00:49] <nsh> i think the problem is that they work well enough, most of the time. the curse of satisficement
[00:49] <amine> cesar_CR: trying it now, I'll report back in a few minutes. Thanks
[00:50] <kingwooky> skreet, im referring to me quamachi ip\
[00:50] <skreet> nsh,  I don't disagree but in my experience configure takes quite some time and checks every dependancy known to man.
[00:50] <onadal> hi everyone
[00:50] <sam_> Coder7: its a new model, so Google is no help
[00:50] <onadal> I want to know how to find a video downloaded from youtube
[00:50] <kingwooky> skreet, so i can play my friend over the internet
[00:51] <skreet> kingwooky,  I recall having this same problem with starcraft, and I don't know that I ever came up with a solution -- starcraft seems to bind to whatever IP is on the interface and broadcast games on the address.
[00:51] <HowardTheDuck> hey
[00:51] <cesar_CR> so my home PC will stay in 9.10 hoping that the next release solvs the BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 61s! problem
[00:51] <HowardTheDuck> can someone tell me how I'd change Power Management settings for the Login screen?
[00:51] <onadal> i used terminal youtube-dl
[00:51] <kingwooky> skreet, there is this program for windows called forcebind ip do you think it will work on ubuntu?
[00:51] <sam_> Coder7: its a Samsung q430
[00:51] <skreet> cesar_CR,  It's only after upgrading to 10.04?  You may want to report the error to Ubuntu on launchpad.net.
[00:51] <HowardTheDuck> this box i just built goes into hibernate or something on the login screen when idle and i cant wake it back up except to turn it off and turn it on
[00:52] <skreet> kingwooky,  You mean in wine?  I highly doubt it -- but it probably won't hurt to try.
[00:52] <indrora> kingwooky: No, it uses low-level IP functions that Wine doesn't support.
[00:52] <cesar_CR> skreet, yes fresh install
[00:52] <kingwooky> skreet, ok... i asked some one this before and they said i had to append the ip to my host name
[00:52] <skreet> cesar_CR,  It's likely a 2.6.32 kernel conflict that will need to be addressed.  Try posting a bug report and include your system specs if possible.
[00:53] <cesar_CR> going to... skreet thanks !
[00:53] <skreet> kingwooky,  Starcraft doesn't allow IP or hostname based connections as I recall -- it only works on broadcasts.  So I don't think you can do that.
[00:53] <kingwooky> skreet, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9549388#post9549388
[00:54] <HowardTheDuck> can someone please tell me how to change power management settings for GDM?
[00:54] <skreet> kingwooky, I'm fairly certain that won't have any effect.  But if you want to try, add a line to that file (that's what append means) something like "5.1.2.3 your-hostname", where 5.1.2.3 is your haimatchi IP and your-hostname is whatever your PC is called.
[00:55] <onadal> I want to know how to find a video downloaded from youtube, using youtube-dl
[00:55] <skreet> HowardTheDuck, I think (and I'm really just making a guess, I suppose) that the power management setting made within your login by going to System > Administration > Power Management would apply to GDM as well.  I believe they are system-wide.
[00:55] <cesar_CR> amine, did the plugin worked ?
[00:55] <kingwooky> skreet, do you know of any programs that might bind the ip?
[00:56] <Coder7> Starcraft uses IPX, so you can get IPX tunneling/bridging tools, but it will not work well
[00:56] <skreet> kingwooky,  Generally in order to bind to a specific interface the program itself has to support it -- that's why I don't think editing hosts will work.  Unfortunately (or fortunately for blizzards sales, I suppose), Starcraft won't do this.
[00:56] <onadal> I want to know how to find a video downloaded from youtube, using youtube-dl, anyone can help?
[00:56] <HowardTheDuck> skreet: unfortunately not.
[00:57] <skreet> Coder7, the newer versions support TCP/IP but broadcast to the network associated with the actual primary interface which is why systems like Hamachi don't work as you'd expect.
[00:57] <onadal> i see
[00:57] <kingwooky> skreet, maby is there any programs that can bind wine to an ip?
[00:57] <skreet> HowardTheDuck,  Hrm, that's surprising.
[00:58] <onadal> so
[00:58] <skreet> kingwooky,  I don't see an option in winecfg to bind to a particular interface...
[00:58] <sam_> I have a new Samsung q430 and the sound does not work on Ubuntu.  I'm new to linux.  Can anyone help me troubleshoot this?
[00:58] <onadal> I want to know how to find a video downloaded from youtube, using youtube-dl, anyone can help?
[00:58] <cutiyar> some websites word will show in complex
[00:58] <wombatman> onadal: you mean find it on your desktop?
[00:59] <onadal> yes
[00:59] <cutiyar>  onadal, use add-ons
[00:59] <skreet> sam_, If you go to Volume Control (under System > Prefs > Sound) and click ont he hardware tab do you see a device there?
[00:59] <onadal> like what
[00:59] <kingwooky> skreet, would it be possible to make a program that could bind it?
[00:59] <its-me-again> hi all atm i am looking for a good application in linux to rechord video adn sound from webcam adn edit like windows moviemaker does flawlessly
[00:59] <sam_> skreet: yes, internal audio
[00:59] <skreet> kingwooky,  You don't make another program to bind an existing program to an interface.  The original program would have to be written to do so.
[01:00] <Xunie> Weird, if I click on "login screen" under System>Administration, I get some weirded out simple interface, I can't install any GDM themes now damn it!
[01:00] <Xunie> How do I fix this?
[01:00] <cutiyar>  onadal,easy yotube video downloader
[01:00] <kingwooky> skreet, is their any way to edit starcraft?
[01:00] <kingwooky> skreet, the .exe file?
[01:00] <amine> cesar_CR: it's sketchy.. works for the first one only
[01:00] <onadal> ok, another and last question.
[01:01] <skreet> kingwooky,  no...?
[01:01] <Xunie> "some weirded out simple interface", by that I mean a window that does not have tabs or anything, just allows me to select "play login sound", select if I want someone to be automatically logged in on boot up, and that's it.
[01:01] <cesar_CR> ufff :s amin
[01:01] <cesar_CR> ufff :s amine
[01:01] <amine> cesar_CR: I have to get going. I'll write my own tonight when I get back
[01:01] <onadal> I have DSL 5mb, and under windows works good, but in unbuntu, i only can download at 512kb
[01:01] <cesar_CR> amine, great !!!
[01:02] <amine> cesar_CR: thanks for the help :-)
[01:02] <kingwooky> skreet, hmm
[01:02] <cutiyar> impossible
[01:02] <kingwooky> skreet, do you have any ideas?
[01:02] <cesar_CR> amine no probl
[01:02] <onadal> why
[01:02] <skreet> kingwooky,   Buy two copies of starcraft and play on battle.net?
[01:02] <EruditeOgre> Question. Running Ubuntu 10.04 on my laptop. Went away for a bit, came back and the screen was totally shut off, tried to get it to wake back up, no luck. Fiddled with it a bit and then hard rebooted the laptop. Came back up with hdd errors caught by fsck. Did an autorepair and then rebooted. When the system came back my /home folder was gone. Had to recreate from scratch. My question is,...
[01:02] <EruditeOgre> ...was there a way to recover my /home directory?
[01:02] <cutiyar> because there is nothing different between them
[01:02] <cutiyar> ask the provider
[01:03] <kingwooky> skreet, lol... any free ways?
[01:03] <slidinghorn> just signed the code of conduct....now I have to be nice to y'all... *grumble
[01:03] <onadal> i dont need to do that... i restart my laptop under windows and works fine at 5mb
[01:03] <skreet> sam_,  I've found that with some models of sound card the default audio mixer levels for ALSA (not PulseAudio which is what you see in Sound properties) are messed up.  May want to start up Terminal and run 'alsamixer' to be sure that the Master, PCM and Front channels are all "On" (Green OO under them) and turned up.
[01:03] <kingwooky> skreet, maby could i temporaraly change my ip to the quamachi ip?
[01:03] <cutiyar> I don't know , sorry
[01:03] <skreet> kingwooky,  That will not work.  Starcraft is like $10 and a great game :)
[01:04] <kingwooky> skreet, so that it would go throught that
[01:04] <onadal> is not the same 540kbps between 64kbps
[01:04] <kingwooky> skreet, can you help me wiht somthing else also?
[01:04] <skreet> kingwooky,   Ask your question of the channel not just of me -- there may be someone who knows more about your next question than I do and you wouldn't want them to miss the question...
[01:05] <kingwooky> ok
[01:05] <Pr0jectRec0n> have just a crib about the latest vlc player in 10.04
[01:05] <Pr0jectRec0n> the icon looks bad in the taskbar..
[01:06] <Pr0jectRec0n> and just fyi, I'm on the dark theme
[01:06] <kingwooky> can anyone help me... one of my computers wont boot... it stops after the bios loads.. all there is is a blinking white line
[01:06] <kingwooky> it uses ubuntu
[01:06] <sam_> skreet, I see master, speaker and pcm.  all are on and turned up, but still no sound
[01:07] <kingwooky> version 2.6.32-23
[01:07] <its-me-again> hi all atm i am looking for a good application in linux to rechord video adn sound from webcam adn edit like windows moviemaker does flawlessly
[01:07] <skreet> sam_,   What are you using to test your sound, just curious.  Also, are they also enabled (Green OO vs MM)
[01:07] <EruditeOgre> kingwooky: boot using a livecd, copy  your /home/<username> directory to a jump drive or cd-rom, and then reinstall ubuntu?
[01:07] <Jordan_U> kingwooky: Can you run this script: http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/ and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces?
[01:08] <skreet> EruditeOgre,  It's for that reason that I wish Ubuntu would default to having a separate home partition... :(
[01:08] <pritesh> i am having sound problem in Ubuntu 10.04
[01:09] <pritesh> has anyone able to solve that problem ?
[01:09] <EruditeOgre> skreet: Indeed. I should have thought about that back when i first installed. Now I have to jump through the hoops of resizing my partitions and then setting up a new home partition.
[01:09] <kingwooky> Erudite0gre, ill just reinstall i dont have anything of importance on their
[01:09] <cutiyar> pritesh, what's probloum?
[01:09] <EruditeOgre> kingwooky: probably for the best then.
[01:09] <EruditeOgre> kingwooky: was it working before?
[01:09] <sam_> skreet, i'm using movie player with a sound file in example-content.  PCM has neither 00 nor MM, but master and speaker have 00
[01:09] <pritesh> i can't play sound any more
[01:10] <EruditeOgre> *hunts for his livecd of 10.04*
[01:10] <cutiyar> pritesh,please explain
[01:10] <kingwooky> EruditeOgre, ya.. it just stoped working randomly
[01:10] <pritesh> aplay -l
[01:10] <pritesh> aplay: device_list:223: no soundcards found..
[01:10] <kingwooky> EruditeOgre, i think it might be the version or somthing
[01:10] <EruditeOgre> What version were you running?
[01:10] <skreet> sam_,  That seems like a perfectly good test... hmm
[01:10] <EruditeOgre> kingwooky: I saw you list the kernel version
[01:11] <cutiyar> run the command in terminal
[01:11] <pritesh> which one ?
[01:11] <sam_> skreet, I also tried to run a game, World of Goo, but no sound
[01:11] <cutiyar> pritesh , paste the result of aplay -l
[01:11] <kingwooky> EruditeOgre, ya version 2.6.32-23
[01:12] <pritesh> i already did
[01:12] <pritesh> aplay -l
[01:12] <pritesh> aplay: device_list:223: no soundcards found...
[01:12] <kingwooky> EruditeOgre, the recovery wont even work
[01:12] <Dezine> I tried to install Ubuntu a little while back and I remember Grub not finding Windows 7, and there was no solution to the problem either. Can anyone tell me if this is still the case?
[01:12] <skreet> sam_,  Under System > Prefs > Sound again, in the Output tab, what is Connector set to.  Sometimes it defaults to Analog Headphones or Digital Out, but for most people Analog Output is what you want.
[01:12] <cutiyar> you don't have any sound card
[01:12] <kingwooky> EruditeOgre, on version 2.6.32-23 and 2.6.32-21
[01:12] <sam_> skreet, analog speakers
[01:13] <pritesh> 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[01:13] <EruditeOgre> Hrm, think 100gb is enough for Ubuntu proper, then make the other 220gb my /home folder?
[01:13] <skreet> EruditeOgre,  100GB is overkill for Ubuntu proper.
[01:13] <EruditeOgre> skreet: Oh? I figured what with all the software installs and whatnot.
[01:13] <sam_> skreet, I changed it to analog output, but still no sound
[01:13] <skreet> EruditeOgre,   My / is 8 G and is a bit tight -- I think 20G should be fine as long as you install big apps like games to /home/
[01:13] <skreet> EruditeOgre,  It is, but I'm running Ubuntu 10.04 with a few extra apps and it's only 5.4 G
[01:14] <skreet> EruditeOgre,  Most larger apps like games and such will install to /home by default -- and so long as you dont need to share them you can retain them through rebuilds or distro changes keeping them in /home/
[01:14] <skreet> sam_,   Hrm, out of ideas sorry =)  PulseAudio isn't my strong suit.
[01:14] <pritesh> cutiyar : did you see my msg ?
[01:15] <oDaniel> Hey guys, anyone here familiar with network manager and ndiswrapper?
[01:15] <sam_> skreet, thanks for trying.
[01:15] <Josh__> I found these directions for installing wordpress on slicehost ubuntu, can anyone here help me with this? http://www.sharpee.com/wordpress/?p=3
[01:15] <EruditeOgre> skreet: Ok, cool. Thanks for the tip. :)
[01:15] <EruditeOgre> One last time before I go.
[01:16] <EruditeOgre> Question. Running Ubuntu 10.04 on my laptop. Went away for a bit, came back and the screen was totally shut off, tried to get it to wake back up, no luck. Fiddled with it a bit and then hard rebooted the laptop. Came back up with hdd errors caught by fsck. Did an autorepair and then rebooted. When the system came back my /home folder was gone. Had to recreate from scratch. My question is,...
[01:16] <EruditeOgre> ...was there a way to recover my /home directory?
[01:17] <defrysk> nope
[01:17] <linxeh> EruditeOgre: you might find fragments of it in /lost+found
[01:17] <Boldfilter> What program would I use to make a youtube movie?
[01:17] <linxeh> or /home/lost+found if /home was a partition
[01:18] <EruditeOgre> linxeh: Thanks, will check.
[01:18] <defrysk> Boldfilter, upload the movie to youtube is the easyest way
[01:18] <EruditeOgre> And there it is!
[01:19] <EruditeOgre> linxeh:
[01:19] <EruditeOgre> Thank you!
[01:19] <defrysk> EruditeOgre, lucky you :)
[01:19] <kingwooky> EruditeOgre, ok i booted from my usb and selected install and it stoped a certian point and isnt making any progress
[01:19] <pritesh> can somebody please help me with sound problem I am having w4ith ubuntu 10.0
[01:19] <slidinghorn> !details > pritesh
[01:19] <linxeh> EruditeOgre: you found fragments of files ?
[01:20] <EruditeOgre> linxeh: Looks like it's all there.
[01:20] <linxeh> EruditeOgre: cool; good luck in restoring it!
[01:20] <EruditeOgre> Think i'm only going to pull over parts of it.
[01:20] <EruditeOgre> mostly my .mozilla
[01:21] <oDaniel> Question: Network manager keeps disconnecting randomly. when this happens, there is no way to reconnect other than rebooting. I am on ndiswrapper as i have one of these weird-ass USB network adapters. Can anyone help?
[01:21] <winstonw> I installed systemtap but it seems it doesn't work, how do i fix this? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/459636/
[01:21] <Boldfilter> defrysk: Gotta make it tho
[01:21] <pritesh> how can i resolving sound issue for ubuntu 10.04 ?
[01:21] <Boldfilter> Edit it etc
[01:22] <Boldfilter> Pitivi?
[01:22] <defrysk> making a movie try kino
[01:23] <sam_> I have Realtek ALC269 internal sound on my laptop, but sound does not work.  Can anyone help me troubleshoot this?
[01:23] <defrysk> Boldfilter, check ubuntu software centre and getdeb.net and medibuntu for programs
[01:23] <kingwooky> EruditeOgre, it wont even boot from a usb... this is wierd
[01:25] <skreet> kingwooky,  What is the BIOS set boot order?  I have seen exactly what you're describing with a CDROM drive being set to boot first that was jammed, so it would endlessly try to close and the system would not boot.
[01:25] <Boldfilter> 10/4 thanks
[01:25] <johntramp> hi .  i am looking at getting a digital video camera and want to know what to be looking for so that it will work well with ubuntu.
[01:25] <skreet> johntramp,   Have you checked out this site?  http://www.ubuntuhcl.org/
[01:25] <johntramp> no, ill do that, thanks skreet
[01:26] <kingwooky> Jordan_U, how do I use that boot thing you gave me?
[01:26] <skreet> johntramp,  Very cool site -- I don't think it's sponsored by Conocial though.  might be helpful :)
[01:26] <slidinghorn> johntramp, most USB cams will be automatically detected once you plug them in and turn them on...if not, you can manually mount and use gthumb to import the images
[01:27] <johntramp> slidinghorn: how about video cameras though
[01:27] <skreet> johntramp,  Although they don't seem to have a digital *video* camera category... odd
[01:27] <kingwooky> skreet, ya when i looked in my bios my cd drive was set to first boot... but i changed that and it still wont work
[01:27]  * Runar is away: sleep
[01:27] <skreet> kingwooky,  Will it even boot from the Ubuntu 10.04 disc??
[01:28] <kingwooky> skreet, i pluged in my usb and it wont even boot form that
[01:28] <Jordan_U> kingwooky: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280
[01:28] <Boldfilter> Pitivi works well
[01:28] <skreet> kingwooky,  Very strange.
[01:28] <xangua> !away > Runar
[01:28] <johntramp> skreet: yeah, and a search for video returns nothing under digital caera
[01:28] <johntramp> camera*
[01:29] <slidinghorn> johntramp, those should usually work as well...
[01:29] <slidinghorn> johntramp, I have a Sony DXG-125V HD that was plug & play
[01:29] <timemachine3030> i updated to 10.04 for 9.10 Monday, last week, and now I'm having issues with Firefox and Chrome google searches redirecting me to a yahoo 403 error, I just can't sort it out.
[01:30] <johntramp> slidinghorn: so does that show up as an external hard drive when you connect it to the pc?
[01:31] <kingwooky> skreet, in the cmos setup under advandced chipset features and nvidia raid setup should the sata channels be disabled or enabled?
[01:31] <slidinghorn> johntramp, yeah...popped right up in nautilus under "Computer" -- didn't check to see if it did on the desktop
[01:32] <matthew_> is there a way to change the "places" that show up in the "main menu"...I mean, instead of going to the folder labeled music, can I direct it to open my music folder on another partition?
[01:32] <tle> hey, does anyone know if there are maintained objective-c bindings for GTK?
[01:33] <kingwooky> skreet, ? disabled or enabled?
[01:34] <Ofrepose> What is some of the best applications for ubuntu??
[01:34] <IdleOne> !best
[01:34] <skreet> kingwooky,  They should be left at whatever setting it was at the last time this worked correctly.  Or has this never worked before?
[01:34] <timemachine3030> matthew_, open nautalis and go to bookmarks -> edit bookmarks
[01:34] <rmorgan> how do you use apt through a proxy?
[01:34] <rmorgan> requiring authentication
[01:34] <kingwooky> skeet, default they were disabled
[01:35] <kingwooky> skreet, i tried disableing the cd drive and still dosnt wokr
[01:36] <skreet> kingwooky,  Did this system ever work before (since installation)?
[01:36] <kingwooky> skreet, this would be alot easier if i knew what was wrong... and yes it was working just yesterday on ubuntu
[01:37] <kingwooky> skreet, but all it shows is a flashing white line
[01:37] <slidinghorn> rmorgan, http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/939-configure-apt-get-to-work-behind-a-proxy-in-ubuntu-lucid-
[01:37] <kingwooky> skreet, black screen
[01:38] <skreet> kingwooky,  Sounds like a hardware issue to me if you can't get it boot at all...
[01:38] <stefanodeicolli> chi parla in italiano?
[01:38] <kingwooky> skreet, one sec lemme see if anything is unpluged
[01:38] <skreet> !it
[01:39] <jimbro> Say does anybody know how to install the new BURG graphic
[01:40] <Vooloo> can you get a right click desktop main menu in gnome?
[01:40] <EruditeOgre> linxeh: Thanks again! Ta.
[01:40] <slidinghorn> !info apt-proxy | rmorgan this might be useful as well:
[01:40] <Mr_Sonoma> anyone know how to make the services shortcut commands work (/chanserv /nickserv) in ircd-hybrid with hybserv?
[01:41] <Ashex> Anyone know what the possible cause is if a user gets access denied when connecting an external drive?
[01:41] <EruditeOgre> exit
[01:42] <xangua> Vooloo: you can add apps to it with 'nautilus actions'
[01:42] <jaumpasama> Hey guys, I just updated from karmik and cant access my previously encrypted home partition
[01:42] <jimbro> Ashex -- probibley didn't get mounted
[01:42] <jaumpasama> could anyone help me please
[01:42] <kingwooky> skreet, one sec imma try installign ubuntu on an extra harddrive i have
[01:42] <slidinghorn> !ask | jaumpasama
[01:42] <sean-laptop> ok just a question.. i have a usb dongle that i installed with an ndiswrapper.. but i have to start it manually in terminal.. any way i can set it to start automatically on boot?
[01:42] <Ashex> jimbro, well yes, any idea what would prevent it from being mounted?
[01:42] <skreet> kingwooky,  How are you going to do that if you cannot boot your Ubuntu media as we already tested?
[01:42] <Mr_Sonoma> Ashex, user not in the appropriate group for plug devices?
[01:43] <kingwooky> skreet, i can boot from the usb but it wont install ubuntu on the drive so im gunna see if it will install on a different one
[01:43] <kingwooky> skreet, it will stop at a certian point
[01:44] <skreet> kingwooky,  I asked if you could boot from CD and you said you could not boot from USB..
[01:44] <kingwooky> skreet, i can but i cant run ubuntu off the usb or install it on the drive so thats what i ment
[01:45] <kingwooky> skreet, like it shows the lil menu with the selections but once i click one them it shows some code then stops
[01:46] <skreet> kingwooky,  That "code" is probably very useful.  What does it say?
[01:49] <andres-19> can wine run 3D acceleration?
[01:50] <slidinghorn> andres-19, probably be better served asking that question in #winehq
[01:50] <andres-19> oki
[01:50] <andres-19> thannks
[01:54] <kingwooky> skreet, ok im back srry... its a tight squeeze to put that hardrive in
[01:54] <Pr0jectRec0n> have just a crib about the latest vlc player in 10.04, the icon just looks so bad in the taskbar. any fixes for this?
[01:54] <kingwooky> skreet, you want the code... one sec
[01:54] <daedaluz> andres-19: yea if you have nvidia card
[01:55] <Vin73> hi, I have a question about apt.conf setting for http::proxy
[01:55] <Vin73> hello...
[01:56] <kingwooky> skreet, eww thats bad....
[01:57] <kingwooky> skreet, the new hard drive i put in made some skratching noises
[01:57] <kingwooky> skreet, :(
[01:58] <Vin73> hello, could someone help me with my question?
[01:58] <slidinghorn> !ask | Vin73
[01:58] <kingwooky> skreet, well looks like that harddrive is junk
[02:01] <tazman1a> I have 10.04, well even in the previous versions, and how does the NetworkManager know which ttyUSB port to use when I plug in a mobile broadband usb modem?
[02:02] <Vin73> slidinghorn: thanks, I have set my http::proxy in apt.conf as Acquire {http::proxy "http//<user>:<password>@<proxy>:<port>/"
[02:02] <karma_police> what is the best way to install ie on ubuntu? i have to have it for a school site and don't want to have to dualboot into windows everytime
[02:02] <Vin73> slidinghorn: but this doesn't seem to work...I always get a 407 Authentication error
[02:03] <kingwooky> skreet, you there?
[02:03] <Vin73> slidinghorn: so I am wondering if there is something wrong in the way that I set my http::proxy
[02:03] <skreet> kingwooky, I am, what's up?
[02:03] <chalcedony> im at the partitioning part in ubuntu 10.04 using a 12" monochrome monitor, i can barely see it. how can i set up partitions on it?
[02:03] <karma_police> whats the best way to install internet explorer on ubuntu?
[02:04] <kingwooky> skreet,  can i format a hardrive that makes wierd scratching noises?
[02:04] <PlainFlavored> karma_police: install wine, then cry
[02:04] <slidinghorn> Vin73, I'll try to help, but just know that I am no expert...in the future, try to keep it to one line when possible :)  are you using synaptic or apt-get?
[02:04] <karma_police> i have done that
[02:04] <tazman1a> karma_police: I thought IE only worked on Windoes
[02:04] <tazman1a> windows
[02:04] <kingwooky> skreet, the on i just put in is doing that
[02:04] <Vin73> slidinghorn: apt-get
[02:04] <karma_police> i have been trying ies4linux but its not working with 10.04
[02:05] <skreet> kingwooky,  Sure, why not.  It probably won't work though.
[02:05] <kingwooky> skreet, i think its cause i put it in upside down one time
[02:05] <chalcedony> do y'all have a guide to how to partition the drive to set up ubuntu 10.04?
[02:06] <karma_police> guess the school was paid off by gates to prioritize ie
[02:06] <kingwooky> skreet, crap that was my good hard drive to ... 320 gb
[02:06] <starscream> can anyone help me with adobe flash player not upgrading i keep getting. "adobe is virtural"
[02:06] <slidinghorn> Vin73, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[02:06] <skreet> chalcedny,  I'm not sure you'll be able to use 10.04 on a 12" monochrome monitor :P.   If you use Ubuntu Server the installer isn't graphical and may be easier to read, but you'll have to then install the 'ubuntu-desktop' pakcgae if you want a GUI...
[02:06] <skreet> chalcedny, Probably a way to install Ubuntu Desktop with text-mode installer but I don't know it.
[02:06] <xangua> looks like that project is dead since 2006 karma_police :S
[02:06] <slidinghorn> chalcedny, are you doing a dual boot or will the machine only have Ubuntu?
[02:06] <king313> Hi. How can I install a crypted LVM system from the installation CD?
[02:06] <Vin73> slidinghorn: lucid
[02:07] <maco> skreet, chalcedony: there's an alternate install cd that is a text installer too. no need to go for a server cd
[02:07] <kingwooky> skreet, oh well.. you wanted that code that shows when i try to install ubuntu from usb?
[02:07] <karma_police> guess i will just have to dualboot then.. was hoping to find an alternative
[02:07] <chalcedony> slidinghorn, just ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[02:07] <pres> That is funny. I was on the UbuntuForums.org a minute ago. I replied to someones post with "wtf" and now I can't access the forums. What's going on?
[02:07] <skreet> kingwooky, yeah sure
[02:07] <niccoli> hey all, whats the wine support channel named?
[02:07] <xangua> karma_police: or use a virtual machine
[02:07] <h00k> niccoli: #winehq
[02:07] <karma_police> true... may just do that
[02:07] <niccoli> h00k, thanks
[02:07] <chalcedony> maco hmm?
[02:07] <kermit> there's lots of lag when adjusting my brightness with the keyboard control, this didnt used to happen.. why is it now?
[02:08] <maco> chalcedony: skreet attempted to tell you you needed to use a server cd to get a text installer but spelled your name wrong and was wrong
[02:08] <skreet> maco,  I fail on two counts!
[02:08] <h00k> pres: Please watch the language in here, obfuscated swearing isn't welcome here. If you're having problems on the Ubuntu Forums, you should probably check their guidelines, this isn't ubuntu-forum support.
[02:09] <kingwooky> skreet, ok here its is ... one sec
[02:09] <Vin73> slidinghorn: hello...
[02:09] <pres> h00k, I would, but now I can;t access them. Bit ironic don't you think.
[02:09] <slidinghorn> Vin73, settle down..I'm looking.  :)  take a look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1471586
[02:09] <kingwooky> skreet, do you just want the bottom part?
[02:09] <maco> skreet: server installs wont run on a lot of hardware anyway. like, if it doesnt have pae support (and if its like 5 years old, it doesnt) itll just kernel panic on boot
[02:10] <slidinghorn> chalcedny, is it the desktop or server edition?
[02:10] <skreet> maco,  Well, 32-bit.  =)
[02:10] <h00k> pres: pres http://ubuntuforums.org/index.php?page=policy
[02:10] <maco> skreet: there wasnt a whole lot of 64bit stuff out 5 years ago...
[02:10] <pres> According to the email I just received, I've received infraction because of spam advertising? What the heck is with that? Just because I said what I said? How is that spam advertising?
[02:10] <chalcedny> slidinghorn, i think desktop
[02:11] <h00k> pres: this isn't the place for that, you're going to have to check elsewhere. Does the email provide any instructions?
[02:11] <Random832> pres: what was the post you replied to, and what did you say?
[02:11] <skreet> maco,  You're right -- I assume people arn't putting 10.04 on hardware much older than that - but they probably are :]
[02:11] <maco> pres: behavioural corrections in here dont result in email...
[02:11] <bazhang> pres, try #ubuntuforums
[02:11] <Volkodav> is there a way to permanently set the input device in Sound preferences ? I have to change it back to webcam mic 10 times a day - what a PITA
[02:11] <un214> I feel crazy
[02:11] <maco> skreet: my mom's 9.10 machine is from 2001 ;-)
[02:11] <pres> bazhang, thanks. ;_)
[02:12] <chalcedony> skreet, it's a brand new computer too new for 8.04 to support the nic, it's just an old monitor and we don't need it for graphics
[02:13] <skreet> chalcedony,  Ah, I'm surprised you have an old *working* 12" monochrome display.
[02:13] <slidinghorn> chalcedny, use this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall  -- I would recommend using about 10GB for the / partition and create a /home partition with the vast majority of your HDD space -- it will help when upgrading to newer versions in the future
[02:13] <kingwooky> skreet, http://paste.ubuntu.com/459647/
[02:13] <un214> I used 80gb for /
[02:13] <kingwooky> skreet, thats the bottom part
[02:13] <un214> so far its 22% full
[02:13] <kingwooky> skreet, where it stops
[02:13] <pres> h00k, just so you know. Yes I did get email. But it claimed I was spam advertising and then gave me a link for more information which I can't access because I'm banned for whatever reason I have no idea. I'd just appreciate some sort of explanation. That's all.
[02:13] <skreet> kingwooky,   And it stops there??  That really doesn't mean anything except "you plugging in a USB device"
[02:14] <un214> so I'd recommend 20gb for / if you can afford it
[02:14] <slidinghorn> un214, did you setup a separate partition for your /home?
[02:14] <un214> yes
[02:14] <un214> 600gb
[02:14] <maco> un214: 20?!?
[02:14] <kingwooky> skreet, yep stops there and a lil white line flashes at the bottom
[02:14] <un214> if I had 10 I would have had to grow it twice now
[02:14] <maco> un214: is that with or without a separate /home ?
[02:14] <un214> separate /home
[02:15] <skreet> un214, maco,  really depends on how you handle large programs or if you have big apps to install.  my desktop box has 5.4G on / out of 7.3G -- home is where all the space is and I install things like netbeans and games there instead of system locations
[02:15] <h00k> pres: well, we don't deal with ubuntuforums stuff in this channel, you'd have to check #ubuntuforums. I assume it was some mistake, then
[02:15] <maco> un214: how are you using that much space? i never went over 10GB til i started doing development at which point -doc, -dev, and -dbg packages did it, so now i use 15GB. are you *never* cleaning out /var/cache/apt/archives/ or something?
[02:16] <kingwooky> skreet, the thing above it is n't support DPO or FUA and some stuff
[02:16] <omry> hi, just got a new dell i1764 (Inspiron 17) and the wireless is not working, can anyone help me?
[02:16] <un214> maco: yeah must be not cleaning the cache
[02:16] <pres> h00k, thanks. In there now.
[02:16] <h00k> pres: good luck
[02:16] <sean-laptop> omry, did you try installing the drivers with an ndiswrapper
[02:16] <sean-laptop> ?
[02:16] <maco> un214: even with kde and gnome and all of texlive (which is about 1.5GB on its own) id only use 7GB until i added devel packages
[02:17] <skreet> omry,  Do you know what kind of wireless card it has?
[02:17] <kingwooky> skreet, it say write protect is off also
[02:17] <omry> sean-laptop, nope. didn't do anything expect look for an answer online yet (don't know much about wireless)
[02:17] <un214> I needed the i386 schroot jail <and> another copy of the system to own core drivers as updates keep installing broken ones
[02:17] <kingwooky> skreet, so that isnt the problem
[02:17] <omry> sean-laptop, ^
[02:17] <omry> skreet, nope. how do I check?
[02:18] <sean-laptop> omry, you would be best to find the drivers after you identify the card, then try installing it with an ndiswrapper
[02:18] <skreet> omry,  I'd start by putting the output of lspci into http://paste.ubuntu.com/ -- should tell you (and us!)
[02:18] <sean-laptop> omry, the windows driver that is
[02:18] <skreet> sean-laptop, omry,  What if it's supported natively... :)
[02:18] <omry> I think that's the one : 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Device 4353 (rev 01)
[02:19] <omry> makes sense?
[02:19] <skreet> omry,  So there's a whole thing with Broadcom you have to do, let me find the docs.
[02:19] <kingwooky> skreet, what should i be looking for?
[02:20] <omry> sean-laptop, I hope not to have to use any hacks like these :)
[02:20] <omry> lets see if we can get native support
[02:20] <bsmith093> broadcom wifi?
[02:20] <Anom01y> hi, my computer crashes once in a while if I leave it in tty7, its been doing it for years. I've tried upgrading, changing o/s', removing hardware,
[02:21] <debugview> hi, is it possible to install a GUI for ubuntu server if i only have SSH remote access? someone mentioned VNC but it is only CLI how does it  "render" the UI?
[02:21] <Anom01y> the only way I have discovered to prevent this is to leave it in tty1 when I am not using the computer, as it only freezes when I am NOT using it.. (usually at night time or when I go to work)
[02:21] <Anom01y> so here is my question for anyone who cares::::
[02:21] <kitche> debugview by X running
[02:21] <skreet> omry,   I can't seem to find a guide for 10.04 -- only older versions... still looking
[02:22] <debugview> kitche, does that include stuff like a normal ubuntu desktop?
[02:22] <debugview> start menu, etc..
[02:22] <Vin73> hi, how can I disable automatic lock screen on lucid...I am using Gnome desktop
[02:22] <Anom01y> How can I automate Ubuntu to switch to tty1 when the computer goes in standby or goes to a screensaver ???
[02:22] <Vin73> slidinghorn: thanks...
[02:22] <skreet> omry,   One guide says that the native Hardware Drivers dialog will do it -- have you tried going to System > Administration > Hardware Drivers?
[02:22] <Anom01y> I am using xfce
[02:22] <xangua> Vin73: system> preferences> screensaver
[02:23] <Vin73> xangua: thanks
[02:23] <Anom01y> I had a scheduled task program once that would put the computer to tty1 at 12:00 at night,
[02:23] <omry> skreet, actually I tried. nothing in there (I am not really familiar with ubuntu so I might missed something obvious)
[02:24] <Anom01y> but I would rather it go to tty1 after 20min's of inactivity
[02:24] <omry> skreet, surprise. now there is something there.
[02:24] <omry> checking it out
[02:24] <devgrusea1> I've cfg'd SSH to use pub/priv key auth, but it keeps denying by putty-converted private key. What gives?
[02:24] <Anom01y> because resetting the computer really is a pain, and its even more painful knowing that my computer should be more stable than windoze anything...
[02:24] <samalex01> howdy...
[02:25] <skreet> omry,   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu  -- you may need to enable the 'Restricted'/'Universe' or 'Multiverse' repositories before the Broadcom driver will show up in that menu.
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> Id just disable teh standby mode thing competely.
[02:25] <omry> skreet, it's already in there. installing now
[02:25] <omry> looks promising
[02:25] <edlang> Hi -- I've just started using mutt with mail delivered by procmail. For a pair of mailboxes, mutt loops between them, saying the other has new mail.
[02:26] <edlang> The mutt documentation says this occurs when something updates the mtime of the files, such as biff / frm
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> debugview:  vnc renders the desktop to the 'local' vnc client/viewer.  freenx also lets you see a remote 'desktop' locally.
[02:26] <edlang> However, lsof shows no other process has the files open.
[02:26] <edlang> Any suggestions?
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> debugview:  or you just ssh to the remote. run a X app and have it appear as a single app, on the local X desktop.
[02:26] <skreet> edlang,  For what it's worth a process doesn't need to hold open a file to quickly change it's mtime.  Can you confirm the mtime change by using something like 'stat' on the file before and after mutt tells you it's been updated?
[02:26] <Vin73> hi, I would like to remove the password prompt each time I perform a system administration task on lucid by means of Gnome desktop....is there a way to do it?
[02:27] <devgrusea1> I've cfg'd SSH to use pub/priv key auth, but it keeps denying my putty-converted private key. What gives?
[02:27] <xangua> Vin73: better not to if you want a secure OS
[02:27] <un214> devgrusea1: I've never gotten putty public/private keys working
[02:27] <Agu10> hi
[02:28] <Luija1006> Hello, my laptop does not wanna read the dvds I put on. For no reason, when I insert it, I wait a moment and nothing shows in the app. Whats wrong?
[02:28] <un214> devgrusea1: I finally gave up and installed cygwin ssh
[02:28] <Agu10> I have an error message every time I open chrome: http://pastebin.com/dndP4zVB
[02:28] <Agu10> is that related to ubuntu maybe?????
[02:28] <skreet> Vin73,  You will need to add a line to /etc/sudoers to allow yourself unrestricted access to root -- it's not a good idea, but I do it.  type 'sudo visudo' in a terminal to edit the sudoers file then add:
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> Luija1006:  you mean 'movie' dvd's ? or just normal data dvds?
[02:28] <jimerickson> Vin73 you really dont want to do that
[02:28] <skreet> username ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[02:28] <un214> yeah I agree you don't want to do that
[02:28] <Vin73> xangua: no I can bring it back later...but at the moment I am in the middle of some testing and this prompt really takes up precious time....
[02:28] <skreet> I also agree.
[02:28] <edlang> skreet: the mtime isn't changing.
[02:29] <skreet> edlang,  So mutt is confused then... hmm
[02:29] <gOLDfeesh> Hey is there a reason as to why Pidgin was removed as the default IM client? I know Empathy is pretty decent but tbch I don't think it has half the great features as pidgin. I know I could always just purge it but .. seriously.. -sigh-
[02:29] <Luija1006> Dr_Willis: normal
[02:29] <gOLDfeesh> </end rant>
[02:29] <un214> Vin73: that's when I keep a root prompt up on tty1
[02:29] <skreet> gOLDfeesh, a-greed. :(
[02:29] <omry> skreet, looks like the driver is installed but it does not see the wireless network
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> Luija1006:  not reading them is differnt from 'not auto mounting them' - try mountuing them by hand. with the  proper mount command.
[02:29] <omry> tried networking restart. no luck
[02:29] <skreet> omry,  It's just now installed, or has been installed?  NetworkManager might need to be restarted if you just installed the driver.
[02:29] <omry> just now installed it
[02:29] <Luija1006> Dr_Willis: and whats that command?
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> gOLDfeesh:  personally i dont use either.
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> Luija1006:  sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom (or similer)
[02:30] <skreet> omry,   I don't think that Ubuntu will insmod the driver until reboot -- have you rebooted?
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> !mount | Luija1006
[02:30] <gOLDfeesh> Dr_Willis what do you use as a jabber client then? or do you not use IM?
[02:30] <Agu10> help...
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> gOLDfeesh:  I dont do IM. Other then 'irc'
[02:30] <gOLDfeesh> Dr_Willis well yeah see I do.. that's why
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> gOLDfeesh:  Im anti-social :)
[02:30] <gOLDfeesh> Dr_Willis lol nice
[02:31] <Luija1006> Dr_Willis: it says the montage point does not exist
[02:31] <omry> skreet, nope. reboots are for pussies ;). know the module name by any chance?
[02:31] <skreet> gOLDfeesh,  using IRC in Empathy is quite awful -- expanding the chat input box as you type is obnoxious.
[02:31] <gOLDfeesh> brb booting Fedora
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> Luija1006:  then make it..
[02:31] <etrisnanto> hi alll
[02:31] <Luija1006> Dr_Willis: :).....
[02:31] <skreet> omry,  Sure, and I agree (can't guess your skill level by IRC :P) -- I think it's b43
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> Luija1006:  sudo mkdir /media/cdrom or whatever you want to use
[02:31] <Daekdroom> skreet, I think pidgin does the very same thing
[02:31] <gOLDfeesh> skreet for IRC I use BitchX or irssi
[02:31] <skreet> Daekdroom,  It does not resize the window, that's for sure! :)
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> gOLDfeesh:  ive gotten where i perfer 'weechat' to Irssi or BX these days
[02:31] <skreet> gOLDfeesh,  X-chat here... to each his own
[02:32] <afallenhope> grr
[02:32] <skreet> omry,   Still, you may need to restart NetworkManager for it to pick up the new interface.
[02:32] <omry> skreet, I know debian well. sec. checking the deb
[02:32] <devgrusea1> I've cfg'd SSH to use pub/priv key auth, but it keeps denying my putty-converted private key. What gives?
[02:33] <skreet> afallenhope,  grr.
[02:33] <omry> skreet, networkmanager == /etc/init.d/ networking ?
[02:34] <Luija1006> Dr_Willis: still not reading
[02:34] <omry> skreet, not b43.
[02:34] <skreet> omry,  Nope, NetworkManager is the GUI level app that manages all your network interfaces.  Most configuration for Ubuntu desktop is done outside of /etc/init.d/networking and /etc/network/interfaces.
[02:35] <skreet> omry,  find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) -ctime +1
[02:35] <skreet> :)
[02:35] <skreet> assuming you didnt' just install your kernel today...?
[02:35] <skreet> Maybe you did.
[02:36] <omry> skreet, worse. I just installed ubuntu today. but for some reason it's not showing any file so maybe it preserved the original creation time
[02:36] <omry> but no results for it at all.
[02:37] <KittyzGoRAWR> amidoinitrite
[02:37] <skreet> omry, hmm
[02:37] <Luija1006> So for some reason my laptop does not wanna read the dvds I insert. I wait some moment, the laptop seems it reading it because of the flashing light, but it suddenly stops, and nothing shows between the connected hardware. Whats wrong?
[02:37] <KittyzGoRAWR> server /join swift.irc.net
[02:38] <KittyzGoRAWR> god.
[02:38] <skreet> omry,   be right back i think my netbook is broadcom -- dell mini 9
[02:38] <sean-laptop> omry, try the netbook ubuntu? i think it has drivers for the Mini 9
[02:38] <toter> hi everybody... i'm trying to download chromium OS' source code to compile... I'm getting an error... http://paste.ubuntu.com/459652
[02:39] <toter> has anyone here tried to compile chromium os?
[02:39] <sean-laptop> toter, why compile there are debs out and you can also add the repository (google it) thats how i installed it on mine
[02:39] <omry> skreet, I think it's called wl. and I have it insmoded
[02:40] <toter> sean-laptop: thanks for the tip. I was trying to get my hands dirty and compile this thing
[02:40] <toter> but i can't even download the source code!
[02:40] <toter> git gives me an error
[02:41] <LJRuff> toter, what are you trying to get/do?
[02:41] <sean-laptop> toter, sometimes why bother.. take the path or least resistance
[02:41] <skreet> omry, I just came back to tell you that it's wl
[02:41] <skreet> :)
[02:41] <sean-laptop> toter, i learned it with a simple google search
[02:41] <skreet> omry, BCM4312 right?
[02:41] <LJRuff> sean-laptop, because it's a good way to learn.
[02:41] <toter> I'm following everything correctly from chromium os' website
[02:41] <sean-laptop> LJRuff, well cant blame ya there
[02:42] <toter> when I execute the command "gclient sync" it does not sync
[02:42] <toter> the error is the following:
[02:42] <toter> http://paste.ubuntu.com/459652/
[02:42] <Rehab> holy crap theres alot of chatters in here
[02:42] <toter> I can compile a kernel
[02:42] <skreet> omry,  you get an eth1 or wlan0 device in 'ifconfig' with wl insmodded?
[02:43] <omry> skreet, 4353
[02:43] <toter> sean-laptop: I understand your position. It is the easiest one.
[02:43] <skreet> omry,  Ah, I've got a different model than you...
[02:43] <edlang> skreet: may be caused by noatime being set on the filesystem. Changed to using maildirs.
[02:43] <omry> skreet, yes. eth1
[02:43] <edlang> skreet: http://wiki.mutt.org/?MuttFaq/Folder , Why are "new" flags of mbox folders wrong in folder-list view?
[02:44] <omry> skreet, I figured wl by looking at the source tree of the package installed by the driver thing
[02:44] <BitWraith> is there any way I can change the background of the login prompt?
[02:44] <BitWraith> (I use XUbuntu)
[02:45] <omry> skreet, iwconfig : eth1      IEEE 802.11  Access Point: Not-Associated
[02:45] <sean-laptop> BitWraith, i was wonderin the same thing
[02:45] <skreet> omry,  Log out and back in and NetworkManager should pick it right up :]
[02:46] <oneirosFade> Hey all.  Need some assistance trying to set up CIFS auto-mount with pam_mount -- I've done it before, but it's not working now and Google is failing me (or maybe I'm failing Google?)
[02:46] <omry> skreet, yes. time to try some brute force :)
[02:46] <omry> brb
[02:48] <BitWraith> what program sets the background in Xfce?
[02:48] <omry> skreet, nope. restarting x. and when this fails (as it should) I`ll try a reboot.
[02:48] <sean-laptop> BitWraith, you may wanna try #xubuntu.. but it seems a little dead in there at the moment
[02:51] <yankeefan67> hi all
[02:51] <ringer2> hello
[02:52] <oneirosFade> Or is there a way to tell if pam_mount has even run?
[02:52] <omry> skreet, well - I`m back. rebooted. still nothing.
[02:52] <yankeefan67> anyone know where I can get some help with video drivers for ubuntu?
[02:52] <aaasdfasdfas> i have a partition that mounts on root but that partition is small.i can't install anything  so i'm thinking of umount from that partition and mount on bigger partition but i tried it on debian and it says drive is busy..how do i unmount boot partition in live cd and mount boot directory to large partition?
[02:52] <ringer2> anybody know of a way to update iphone firmware in Ubuntu?
[02:53] <aaasdfasdfas> help with shifting partition one content to partition two
[02:53] <aaasdfasdfas> i used gparted to copy the root content to parttion new
[02:53] <dreamer000> yankeefan, depends on your graphic chip
[02:53] <AppleiPhone> ringer2~ there is no way too unless you install in virtuall box
[02:53] <aaasdfasdfas> after that what should i do?
[02:53] <omry> skreet, yay. it finally picked some networks.
[02:53] <omry> took it's sweet time
[02:53] <aaasdfasdfas> any help dude?
[02:54] <AppleiPhone>  
[02:56] <ringer2> aaasdfasdfas~ the super simple way of doing things would be to save to an external drive the stuff you want in the small partition and reformat the drive entirely and install the OS of choice
[03:04] <edlang> more on that mutt / atime issue: http://kerneltrap.org/node/14148
[03:05] <steven> i need help
[03:06] <p4nt0mafdsadf> Hi all, i installed UBUNTU, i setup Autologin and then i installed the Kubuntu Desktop, and now i cant start session as ubuntu, it automatically access in kubuntu.
[03:06] <steven> my speck are make a sound but i can here nothing
[03:06] <edbian> steven, with what?
[03:07] <HexLaTor> p4nt0mafdsadf, i think in session login screen u can choose wich one u want
[03:07] <TomT64> is there a way to convert a filesystem from ext3 to FAT or NTFS, or a way to read/write ext3 from a windows system?
[03:07] <p4nt0mafdsadf> i tried everything there
[03:07] <sean-laptop> p4nt0mafdsadf, try uninstalling the kde?
[03:07] <p4nt0mafdsadf> i think i need to access Ubuntu session to disable the autologin there
[03:07] <p4nt0mafdsadf> lol
[03:07] <steven> edbian: my speckers are make a funny sound
[03:07] <p4nt0mafdsadf> really?
[03:07] <edbian> HexLaTor, It is skipping the login screen because of auto login
[03:07] <sean-laptop> TomT64, http://www.fs-driver.org/
[03:08] <HexLaTor> edbian, so u disable it
[03:08] <HexLaTor> lol
[03:08] <p4nt0mafdsadf> edbian, actually, i see it, but once i click on my name, it logins in
[03:08] <edbian> p4nt0mafdsadf, You just need to find the setting in KDE for auto-login and turn it off.  Worst case scenario you need to edit gconf.  You should not have to remove KDE
[03:08] <edbian> p4nt0mafdsadf, Oh, if you see it than don't click you name click the session button at the bottom.
[03:09] <p4nt0mafdsadf> edbian, i dont see it UNless i press OTHER and then type my name
[03:09] <p4nt0mafdsadf> but that doesnt help
[03:09] <p4nt0mafdsadf> uhmmm let me see if i add a new user :)
[03:10] <steven> i got no sound
[03:11] <steven> edbian: i got no sound what can i do
[03:11] <IdleOne> !sound | steven
[03:11] <sean-laptop> edbian, pastebin?
[03:11] <edbian> sean-laptop, What do you want me to pastebin ?
[03:12] <steven> !sound
[03:12] <TomT64> sean-laptop: that works for ext3 also?
[03:12] <edbian> steven, Here's your grease wheel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[03:12] <TomT64> nevermind
[03:12] <sean-laptop> TomT64, says look in the faqs for ext3
[03:13] <Vin73> hi, I had previously posted this question:
[03:13] <Vin73> hi, I would like to remove the password prompt each time I perform a system administration task on lucid by means of Gnome desktop....is there a way to do it?
[03:13] <sean-laptop> TomT64, it says its backwards compatible with ext2.. ext3 is just ext2 with journalling
[03:13] <Vin73> And I got the following instruction:
[03:13] <TomT64> yeah I was worried about what would happen if the journaling was messed up, looks like the FAQ answers that
[03:13] <Vin73> You will need to add a line to /etc/sudoers to allow yourself unrestricted access to root -- it's not a good idea, but I do it.  type 'sudo visudo' in a terminal to edit the sudoers file then add:
[03:14] <HexLaTor> Vin73, add the current user to root group...i guess it'l work
[03:14] <Vin73> But even after doing this and rebooting the system, the prompt persists...
[03:14] <Vin73> NexLaTor: ok...can you help me with the command please?
[03:15] <HexLaTor> Vin73, add it using gui wizzard, administration=>users=>edit/proprities or something like that
[03:15] <HexLaTor> i'm not on ubuntu now..
[03:15] <Vin73> HexLaTor: ok...thanks
[03:15] <HexLaTor> np
[03:21] <toter> sean-laptop: About chromium os... I discovered that their servers are having problems. It is not my fault that I can't execute the command "gclient sync" to get chromium os' source code. Apparently other people tried to sync and are having the same problem
[03:21] <toter> sean-laptop: I want to compile to get the bleeding edge latest... When were your chromium os' debs created?
[03:21] <tyroPod> hello!
[03:22] <sean-laptop> toter, let me check cause after i installed it it will update
[03:22] <octavio-rdz> hi ppl, has anybody tried Manhattan OS?
[03:23] <istevenmon> hi guys
[03:23] <istevenmon> good evening
[03:23] <sean-laptop> toter, you wanna try a deb or repository?
[03:23] <p4nt0m> edbian, didnt work
[03:23] <p4nt0m> im in kubuntu, how can i unistall kubuntu?
[03:23] <toter> sean-laptop: which one has the latest?
[03:24] <sean-laptop> i have had it running for a couple of months.. let me check
[03:24] <istevenmon> anyone here knows about VRRP?
[03:24] <[Screamo]> How do i install java on 10.04?
[03:25] <sean-laptop> toter, using lucid?
[03:25] <toter> yep
[03:25] <Kyngd0m> ew
[03:25] <Kyngd0m> frackin rdp
[03:25] <octavio-rdz> hi ppl, has anybody seen Manhattan OS?
[03:26] <octavio-rdz> [Screamo]: have you used aptitude?
[03:26] <sean-laptop> toter, ok once yo do as this site says it will update in the update manager
[03:26] <sean-laptop> toter, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-chromium-google-chrome-in-ubuntu-using-deb-package.html
[03:26] <sean-laptop> toter, just follow the steps
[03:26] <toter> thank you... i'll try that
[03:26] <xangua> [Screamo]: ubuntu-restricted-extras will install openjdk but if you want sun java you need to enable the partner repository first
[03:27] <[Screamo]> im trying to use youtube advanced uploader
[03:27] <[Screamo]> arg
[03:27] <Vin73> HexLaTor: I added the user to group root using usermod command....but still I get the prompt for password when I start the synaptec manager....do I need to reboot the system for this prompt to cease?
[03:28] <octavio-rdz> [Screamo]: youtube has java? or what do you want is flash?
[03:28] <[Screamo]> http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?answer=185316
[03:28] <toter> sean-laptop: the link you posted is for chromium browser... i am trying to compile chromium OS
[03:28] <sean-laptop> ohhhh
[03:28] <toter> :(
[03:29] <sean-laptop> did you try #chromium-os?
[03:29] <cjae> lubuntu availiable from torrent? site seems to be down
[03:29] <xangua> [Screamo]: once you enable it (system>administration>software origins>other software) you can open the software center and search for java plugin ; i repeat again that openjdk should work ass good as sun java if you want to try
[03:29] <toter> sean-laptop: yep...
[03:29] <toter> I got this response
[03:29] <sean-laptop> cjae, did you try to just download lxde in synaptic
[03:29] <toter> maruel: seems like our servers are hosed
[03:29] <toter> [10:13pm] maruel: I failed to sync this morning too, will probably be fixed tomorrow
[03:29] <toter> [10:13pm] maruel: (most people are on vacation today)
[03:29] <FloodBot3> toter: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:30] <toter> sorry...
[03:30] <[Screamo]> arg
[03:30] <Vin73> Hi. I just added a user to the group root in order to do away with the prompts for password that I get from Gnome desktop applications like the synaptec manager....but that does not seem to help...do I need to reboot the system?
[03:30] <[Screamo]> i installed it
[03:30] <sean-laptop> toter, well then.. hmm what about #linux?
[03:30] <[Screamo]> but youtuube says its not >.>
[03:30] <mataks_> how to add a program in start up that needs root?
[03:30] <mataks_> !boot | mataks_
[03:30] <xangua> [Screamo]: you installed what¿
[03:31] <Vin73> hello?
[03:31] <toter> sean-laptop: I'll wait until tomorrow.. maybe it is going to fixed by then
[03:31] <WXZ> ubuntu on blackberry?
[03:31] <sean-laptop> toter, sorry i could not help
[03:32] <toter> sean-laptop: hey... thanks for the effort
[03:32] <cjae> sean-laptop: want it on different box
[03:32] <sean-laptop> toter, no prob, bob
[03:32] <octavio-rdz> hey gusy does anyone knows how can I configure ubuntu to look like Manhattan OS I like the way the file manager looks and the way the bottom bar looks
[03:32] <redbaron> wow, had to follow the conversation here
[03:32] <cjae> just wondering if anyone has a good non-customised torrent link
[03:32] <cjae> to lubuntu
[03:33] <tonsofpcs> so I have lucid working, I connected an external monitor to my ATI Radeon Mobility X1400 and noticed that the detected refresh rate does not match what I set in the display configs (my display detects a                        refresh rate of roughly 6f/10).  Windows works fine on the same system (display properly recognizes the refresh rates)
[03:33] <tonsofpcs> I noticed that xserver-xorg radeon  package (not sure the full name) was installed but radeonhd package was not.  Also, in hardy and feisty on this machine in the past, I had been using nonfree drivers through the driver manager (fglrx iirc), they no longer appear.
[03:33] <tonsofpcs> xorg.conf doesn't have any device settings for the card, just a generic device name
[03:34] <sean-laptop> cjae, http://lxde.sourceforge.net/install.html work?
[03:35] <cjae> sean-laptop: need entire distro
[03:35] <sean-laptop> oh
[03:36]  * redbaron realises he is in the company of gurus, and bows out.  Was going to help but noooooo
[03:36] <octavio-rdz> cjae: why don't you get it from the official page?
[03:36] <octavio-rdz> as I remember they have torrent
[03:36] <cjae> site down
[03:36] <sean-laptop> cjae, all the mirrors down?
[03:37] <octavio-rdz> oh ok .... do you know if I can some how copy/create the torrent link/file from Transmission program
[03:37] <knob> Hello everyone! =)
[03:37] <knob> If I have a small script on a Linux server, and I want to run it via cron... what permissions should that script have? 755?
[03:37] <octavio-rdz> cjae: I have lubuntu seeding from
[03:38] <octavio-rdz> cjae: I have lubuntu seeding from Transmission
[03:38] <cjae> sorry forgot morror as keyword in google search
[03:38] <cjae> mirror*
[03:38] <cjae> 521 MB?
[03:39] <octavio-rdz> yes
[03:39] <cjae> cool
[03:39] <cjae> thanks
[03:39] <sean-laptop> cjae, find it?
[03:40] <[Screamo]> still not working
[03:41] <SNN> Hi. I'm trying to run Ubuntu 10.04 on a OpenVZ environment, and I'm having issues with the package gw6c. Would anyone happen to be able to help?
[03:41] <homosaur> what's a good, simple package for having wordpress send outgoing email? i only need outbound from local on this server
[03:42] <skreet> homosaur,  postfix?
[03:44] <Andre_Gondim> does anyone know how to add a dic at gnome-utils?
[03:45] <chalcedny> how can i test whether a network problem is my computer / wired lan, or something else?
[03:45] <[Screamo]> arg, i know its installed, yet youtube is telling me its not >..
[03:46] <chalcedny> i tried $ping ip .. "Network is unreachable"
[03:46] <[Screamo]> ifconfig
[03:46] <chalcedny> what should it say?
[03:47] <[Screamo]> eh
[03:48] <[Screamo]> http://paste.ubuntu.com/459666/
[03:48] <chalcedny> ty
[03:48] <Spyzer> if i just do a mount -o loop to "any" bootable iso to some directory and then i copy the contents from that directory to a pen drive will that pendrive be bootable too??
[03:49] <chalcedny> [Scream] all i'm getting is lo
[03:49] <chalcedny> not Eth0 nothing
[03:49] <[Screamo]> hmm
[03:49] <Rinku> hei
[03:50] <[Screamo]> in the little network applet up top, does it list anything?
[03:50] <chalcedny> it slowed down and timed out.. something was making it open a lot of screenshots. i turned it off and restarted it. didn't see any errors, but it has no internet connection
[03:50] <[Screamo]> heh
[03:50] <mac9416_> Spyzer, you're trying to boot non-Ubuntu ISOs from USB?
[03:50] <Rinku> apt-get[1638]: segfault at 36e63 ip b7ef6d88 sp bfda2c60 error 4 in libapt-pkg-libc6.2-3-2.so.3.2.0[b7eac000+be000]
[03:50] <Rinku> ^^??
[03:51] <Spyzer> well umm yeah, i hope u will still answer my question
[03:51] <tonsofpcs> chalcedny: breaking things?
[03:51] <tonsofpcs> :)
[03:51] <chalcedny> [Screamo], is there a way to tell if it's the computer or if i pulled something out of the wiring?
[03:51] <chalcedny> tonsofpcs, hi hugs .. seems i did
[03:51] <[Screamo]> chalcedny, if it was working fine before, and all you did was restart it, then your network manager prolly crashed
[03:51] <mac9416_> Spyzer, haha, I didn't mean it that way. I was just going to say that you might find some tutorials for non-Linux ISOs at the pendrivelinux website.
[03:51] <tonsofpcs> chalcedny: ifconfig -a   show an eth#?
[03:52] <Rinku> anyone familiar with Colinux
[03:52] <[Screamo]> not sure if this will work but try running this in terminal: nm-applet --sm-disable
[03:52] <tonsofpcs> Rinku: yes
[03:52] <Rinku> ^^ segfault
[03:52] <Spyzer> oh, just tell me this if i do a dd /dir/myISO /dev/pendrive will that make the pendrive bootable and working and all
[03:52] <Rinku> Running Debian based 2.6.26.8-co-0.7.7.1
[03:52] <Spyzer> just a yes or no will do
[03:53] <chalcedny> tonsofpcs, lo and pan0 no Eth
[03:53] <tonsofpcs> hmmm
[03:53] <joe75> with and w/out ahda
[03:53] <tonsofpcs> chalcedny: this is a desktop with wired ethernet, yes? not wireless?
[03:53] <[Screamo]> chalcedny, run nm-applet  in terminal
[03:53] <Spyzer> will u kindly answer it ??
[03:54] <[Screamo]> it should say ragnarok@ragnarok-desktop:~$ nm-applet
[03:54] <[Screamo]> An instance of nm-applet is already running
[03:54] <chalcedny> tonsofpcs, yes my desktop ubuntu 9.04
[03:54] <mac9416_> Spyzer, I don't really know. But like I say, pendrivelinux might be helpful.
[03:54] <Spyzer> ok
[03:55] <tonsofpcs> chalcedny: you can try   ifup eth0   but i don't think it'll fix it
[03:55] <muni> mac9416: how can i remove ubuntu
[03:55] <SteveThing> does 10.04 LTS support TRIM like windows does? I just bought an Intel X25-M and would like to ensure Ubuntu isn't going to be a detriment to the drive.
[03:55] <[Screamo]> chalcedny, did you do it?
[03:55] <tonsofpcs> muni: install something else
[03:55] <Vin73> is there a command to find out the video driver being used on lucid?
[03:55] <tonsofpcs> SteveThing: TRIM?
[03:55] <muni> tonsofpcs: yes ubuntu 64 bit
[03:55] <chalcedny> nm-applet:4453Could not acquire the network manager
[03:55] <tonsofpcs> Vin73: you can look in xorg.conf .... i don't know beyond that
[03:56] <SteveThing> tonsofpcs, SSD drive optimization tool to prevent SSD degredation.
[03:56] <chalcedny> tonsofpcs, permssion denied
[03:56] <[Screamo]> chalcedny, sounds like your network manager is dead -.
[03:56] <rinku_kokiri> Anyone know why apt-get would segfault on libapt-pkg-libc6.2-3-2.so.3.2.0  ?
[03:56] <muni> tonsofpcs: how can i remove ubuntu
[03:57] <tonsofpcs> muni: just install something else
[03:57] <tonsofpcs> chalcedny: ah, sudo ifconfig -a   << what's that got?
[03:57] <[Screamo]> chalcedny, try "nm"
[03:57] <maco> muni: just install some other OS on the hard drive where ubuntu currently is
[03:57] <glick> rinku_kokiri, file a bug report
[03:57] <muni> tonsofpcs: ya i know that but how
[03:57] <glick> it shouldnt do thta
[03:57] <chalcedny> hmm
[03:57] <tonsofpcs> muni: whatever you want to replce it with
[03:57] <chalcedny> i changed wires
[03:57] <sean-laptop> muni, you mean delete the operating system? run a livecd on boot.. run gparted and delete the partition
[03:57] <chalcedny> ifup eth0 still nothing.. what is a 'network manager'?
[03:58] <muni> sean-laptop: yes
[03:58] <tonsofpcs> network manager is the gnome gui tool that runs ifup and ifdown and such
[03:58] <[Screamo]> chalcedny, it manages network connections
[03:58] <chalcedny> nm:'a.out': No such file
[03:58] <indrora> chalcedny: nm-applet
[03:58] <muni> maco : i have vista but its not running
[03:58] <sean-laptop> muni, run the livecd.. then go to gparted under applications and just delete the partition
 nm-applet:4453Could not acquire the network manager
[03:58] <chalcedny> yeah
[03:59] <indrora> Something's broken then
[03:59] <tonsofpcs> chalcedny: "sudo ifconfig -a" << does that list an eth#?
[03:59] <chalcedny> ok hmm
[03:59] <chalcedny> ok
[03:59] <muni> sean-laptop: i dont have partitions
[03:59] <indrora> Not quite as broken as my machine at the moment. Anyone know why X would make a radeon video card go insane and blank its screen
[04:00] <sean-laptop> muni, ...... you HAVE to have at least the main partition and the swap lol
[04:00] <chalcedny> tonsofpcs, no, it doesn't it has lo and pan 0
[04:00] <tonsofpcs> chalcedny: with the sudo?  (if so, it seems there is a device issue)
[04:00] <[Screamo]> chalcedny, try sudo nm-applet
[04:00] <thune3> SteveThing: this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1504907&page=2 says TRIM support was added to linux 2.6.33 (lucid is 2.6.32), you add a discard option to mount/fstab line. This should be good in Meerkat.
[04:00] <[Screamo]> err
[04:00] <WXZ> is it possible to run ubuntu on a blackberry
[04:00] <tonsofpcs> WXZ: no
[04:00] <chalcedny> tonsofpcs, i did put the sudo pass
[04:00] <[Screamo]> chalcedny, lspci in terminal, look for a network card
[04:00] <sean-laptop> muni, the hard drive itself is a partition.. a single one with a separate swap partition
[04:00] <WXZ> not even through a virtual machine?
[04:01] <Vin73> Is there a default password associated with root login on lucid?
[04:01] <sean-laptop> Vin73, try 'root'?
[04:01] <xangua> better buy an android phone WXZ or maybe openmoko¿¿
[04:01] <muni> sean-laptop: i know that i can't run and install vista
[04:01] <WXZ> they can run ubuntu :D
[04:01] <tonsofpcs> chalcedny: is this an onboard ethernet controller or is it on a card?
[04:02] <chalcedny> tonsofpcs, on board
[04:02] <tonsofpcs> hmmm
[04:02] <sean-laptop> muni, you want to dual boot? i recommend 7 not vista..
[04:02] <Vin73> sean-laptop: not it is not working...
[04:02] <rinku_kokiri> hrm
[04:02] <muni> sean-laptop: thanks but how
[04:02] <[Screamo]> chalcedny, did you run "lspci"?
[04:02] <[Screamo]> your looking for an ethernet_controller or network_controller
[04:02] <chalcedny> [Screamo], yes i'm trying to see it
[04:03] <sean-laptop> muni, you have to resize your partition and then set up a separate partition for vista
[04:03] <tonsofpcs> lspci | grep -i eth
[04:03] <chalcedny> tonsofpcs, did that, nothiong
[04:03] <chalcedny> nothing too
[04:03] <ceeck65> buenas noches
[04:03] <tonsofpcs> lspci | grep -i netw
[04:04] <chalcedny> hi ceeck65
[04:04] <chalcedny> k
[04:04] <tucemiux> anyone here uses NX server? I am trying to install and configure NX server
[04:04] <[Screamo]> chalcedny, its not listing a ethernet/network controller?
[04:04] <tonsofpcs> tucemiux: i tried once, pita
[04:04] <tucemiux> ceeck65, hola, aqui todo es en ingles
[04:04] <muni> sean-laptop: my pc is a ubuntu based pc and i have no, partitions ..... and i want to install 7
[04:04] <tonsofpcs> chalcedny: could it be disabledd in the bios possibly?
[04:04] <chalcedny> tonsofpcs, nothing
[04:04] <rinku_kokiri> Segfault solved with     "rm -rf /var/cache/apt/*.bin"   &&  echo 'APT::Cache-Limit "8388608";' > /etc/apt/apt.conf
[04:05] <chalcedny> it was working until i shut it off because it froze
[04:05] <tonsofpcs> i would check that
[04:05] <tucemiux> tonsofpcs, ok well i already have an ssh server and know how to administer it, installing nx after that shouldnt be too hard, i just have a question with the specifics
[04:05] <[Screamo]> chalcedny, have you tried rebooting?
[04:05] <[Screamo]> =/
[04:05] <sean-laptop> muni, yes i thought that it was.. you have to go into gparted and resize the partition.. your computer has to have one partition on the hard drive. otherwise it would not allow installing of ubuntu..
[04:05] <chalcedny> [Screamo], that sounds easier than messing with bios which i didn't toucn
[04:05] <chalcedny> touch
[04:05] <tonsofpcs> tucemiux: ssh servers are easy.
[04:05] <sean-laptop> muni, you have an ext3 partition.. hyou need to make one that is itfs
[04:06] <sean-laptop> muni, i mean ntfs
[04:06] <SteveThing> thune3, thank you. reading up on it now
[04:06] <chalcedny> i'm worried that it broke it - i didnt turn it off
[04:06] <tucemiux> muni, why would you want to install windows7 on a machine that has ubuntu on it already?
[04:06] <chalcedny> er bios
[04:06] <[Screamo]> chalcedny, if rebooting doesnt work, you might try booting into a livecd
[04:07] <sean-laptop> muni, if you are wanting 7 to run certain programs why not try Wine or Wine-Doors
[04:07] <[Screamo]> lol @ wine
[04:07] <muni> tucemiux: i want to install 64 bit ubuntu
[04:07] <[Screamo]> none of the windows programs i want to run will wine =
[04:07] <[Screamo]> =/
[04:07] <tonsofpcs> sean-laptop: wine still doesn't have directdraw (part of windows 3.0) working properly.
[04:07] <sean-laptop> muni, you could also just look for an alternative program to the windows oneyou want
[04:08] <sean-laptop> tonsofpcs, i know that.. jsut trying to help this one.. i perfer avoiding wine at all costs
[04:08] <muni> sean-laptop: i know about wine but what is wine-doors
[04:08] <Pondera> can anyone suggest a good ereader program for ubuntu/deb ?
[04:09] <muni> sean-laptop: is there any way to install 64bit using a 32 bit ubuntu
[04:09] <indrora> Can anyone figure out why my computer's screen goes white and fades and hangs when I start up my machine?
[04:09] <sean-laptop> muni, winedoors is a more gui based wine.. has some single click installation such as for running WoW (i dont play it myself) or things that are dependant on windows applications
[04:09] <acovrig> I have postfix and courier, why can't i send/recieve mail with squirrelmail?
[04:09] <sean-laptop> muni, i have no clue. i own nothing with 64 bit architecture
[04:10] <Hathadar> I have a drive mounted to /media/usb-hdd  How does ubuntu determine to write files to /media/usb-hdd or on the drive i mounted to that folder?
[04:10] <muni> sean-laptop: can i report my prblm
[04:11] <sean-laptop> yeah i would guess.. what is the exact issue though.. you want to install windows (on a separate partition) for what reason.. and the 64 bit issue
[04:11] <unclemantis> I have tried everything that I can find on google and I am out of options. I need some help. I am running bootstrap.sh for thrift and I am getting the following error. "configure.ac:44: required file `./ltmain.sh' not found" I am told it is a number of things like missing packages so I install them and again, no luck. Help! Thanks =)
[04:12] <Pondera> Can anyone suggest a good ereader program to read e-books in ubuntu ?
[04:12] <tonsofpcs> unclemantis: sounds like the 'thrift' file you have is corrupt
[04:12] <tonsofpcs> try asking their devs.
[04:12] <xangua> Pondera: evince¿
[04:12] <unclemantis> so re download and try again?
[04:12] <Pondera> evince
[04:12] <Pondera> ok thanks ill look it up
[04:12] <tonsofpcs> unclemantis: it's probably not ready for public use
[04:12] <muni> sean-laptop:no i cant find any way to install 64bit , but i found that if i have windows on my pc i can run the 64bit installer
[04:13] <chalcedny> hmmm
[04:13] <tonsofpcs> anything, chalcedny?
[04:13] <sean-laptop> oh.,. why not download and burn the 64 bit version and then run it as a livecd? it could be a bad checksum.. you may just have to re-download it
[04:14] <chalcedny> tonsofpcs, doesn't seem to
[04:14] <mobile> huh
[04:14] <muni> sean-laptop:how can i run it as a live cd
[04:14] <chalcedny> ifconfig still shows lo
[04:14] <kelberry> Hello!
[04:14] <fodder70> best ereader ive found is fbreader
[04:15] <chalcedny> shall i try restart again, maybe? tonsofpcs [Screamo] ?
[04:15] <kelberry> I'm looking for some help.
[04:15] <unclemantis> thought i got the stable versikon
[04:15] <tonsofpcs> chalcedny: i would definitely check your bios for a disabling option
[04:15] <unclemantis> sorry... kitty ass in the way
[04:15] <chalcedny> ok
[04:15] <sean-laptop> just search and download then burn the livecd from the site.. then just throw it in the cd drive. then boot from the cd
[04:15] <sean-laptop> it will load it
[04:15] <unclemantis> i will lroll back to a past version
[04:16] <muni> sean-laptop: no that's the problem its not loading when i restart my pc
[04:16] <unclemantis> This is the one i am using "The latest stable release of Thrift is 0.2.0 (released on 2009-12-11). "
[04:16] <unclemantis> so what's the deal?
[04:16] <kelberry> May someone help me with a sound card issue? :)
[04:16] <muni> kelberry: try system testing
[04:17] <kelberry> Okay.
[04:17] <unclemantis> any other suggestions asside from rolling back to a previous stable version?
[04:17] <muni> kelberry:system>administration>system testing
[04:19] <unclemantis> 0.2.0 is the only version they have available
[04:19] <unclemantis> again... any other ideas?
[04:19] <tonsofpcs> unclemantis: talk to their support. clearly you're trying to build it from source, so ask them.
[04:19] <unclemantis> There is no binaries available so ok. Thanks
[04:20] <kelberry> Gah, I believe it is stuck in the 'Running alsa_record_playback_internal...'
[04:20] <tonsofpcs> nap time
[04:20] <tonsofpcs> night all
[04:20] <furythor> Hello, does anyone know if nvidia GF 240 graphics work properly with ubuntu 9.10 ?
[04:20] <kelberry> Anyway, I've had a history of sound not working on Ubuntu for me on this computer.
[04:21] <kelberry> I believe it is my sound card, or something.
[04:21] <tonsofpcs> kelberry: killall pulsseaudio
[04:21] <tonsofpcs> err
[04:21] <sean-laptop> furythor, i had issues with that too.,. i found that installing compiz helped.
[04:21] <tonsofpcs> killall pulseaudio
[04:21] <tonsofpcs> ^^ should fix it
[04:21] <FloodBot3> tonsofpcs: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:21] <furythor> sean-laptop: what kind of issues ?
[04:21] <tonsofpcs> FloodBot3: that's command separation, please learn to not suck at your job :)
[04:22] <sean-laptop> furythor, just that it would only use it as default vga and not specific hardware
[04:22] <furythor> sean-laptop: well I did get proprietary drivers to work, however card was not identified right and some features did not work
[04:23] <kelberry> Okay, I did the system testing.
[04:23] <sean-laptop> furythor, try an ndiswrapper?
[04:23] <furythor> naah, I did upgrade to 10.04 but I don't like this
[04:23] <thune3> kelberry: what's the issue you are experiencing?
[04:24] <furythor> so I am thinking of reverting back to 9.10 and staying till I get my mice kb combo to work out of box again
[04:24] <kelberry> I can't hear any sound, and I have had this issues many times when installing Ubuntu.
[04:24] <kelberry> Ever since I got my new computer.
[04:24] <kelberry> I believe my audio card isn't supported, but I'm not 100% sure.
[04:25] <furythor> Kelberry you got integrated audio chip on mother board and then internal sound card on computer ?
[04:25] <chalcedny> kelberry, more soundcards are supported all the time.. check
[04:25] <kelberry> Haha, this is the problem, I'm kind of new to Ubuntu, so I don't know all of my resources, and I'm not really into hardware, more software.
[04:26] <kelberry> I know the basics, with terminal etc, just not anything too advanced.
[04:26] <kelberry> Have any websites that I can check out? :)
[04:26] <maco> kelberry: do you have >1 sound card by chance?
[04:26] <kelberry> I believe I do have more than one, but how exactly do I check?
[04:26] <maco> kelberry: http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh can generate some diagnostic info and post it to a pastebin for you to share with debuggers
[04:27] <kelberry> Okay, thank you maco!
[04:27] <maco> kelberry: part of that script's output is a list of your sound cards
[04:27] <furythor> kelberry:  type "sudo lshw " and use bastebin to show what that prints out
[04:27] <unclemantis> I need to run "sudo apt-get install libtool"
[04:28] <[Screamo]> then run it=/
[04:28] <unclemantis> now i am getting this notice "libtoolize: You should add the contents of `./aclocal/libtool.m4' to `aclocal.m4'." Does this mean it is optional or strongly suggested?
[04:28]  * chalcedny beats head firmly on desk, remind me if i EVER figure out the how-to-get-into-the-bios to write it dow?
[04:28] <chalcedny> down too
[04:28] <kelberry> http://pastebin.com/Vh1KKyiu
[04:28] <DannyButterman> hi there. could someone help me setup a connection between a redhat 5.3 and a debian lenny ?
[04:29] <[Screamo]> chalcedny, is it a laptop?
[04:29] <chalcedny>  [Screamo] no, it's a wired lan desktop, with *sigh* connection issues.
[04:29] <unclemantis> how do i combine files
[04:30] <unclemantis> cat
[04:30] <unclemantis> i win LOL
[04:30] <bsmith093> !/bin/sh -e i fi found this as the first line of a script what does it do?
[04:30] <[Screamo]> chalcedny, what kind of desktop?
[04:31] <DannyButterman> Vpn problem anyone ?
[04:31] <chalcedny> there's just nothing that says how to get into the bios. it goes from f11 to setup to grub
[04:31] <p1l0t> So in my auth.log I have seemingly brute force attempts at getting root from shanghai China via SSH2
[04:31] <LifeEscalade> best bet if i want to run apache with php is a lamp install, right?
[04:31] <[Screamo]> =/
[04:32] <[Screamo]> f11 to setup = bios
[04:32] <[Screamo]> >.>
[04:32] <kelberry> Has someone checked out my pastebin? sorry I'm new to this IRC and not sure how responsive people are. http://pastebin.com/Vh1KKyiu
[04:32] <thune3> kelberry: you've got integrated audio and X-Fi. I would like to see (as maco suggested) the file generated by "bash alsa-info.sh" using  http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh
[04:32] <kelberry> Okay, thank you thune3
[04:33] <maco> kelberry: might want to install pavucontrol so you can tell streams which device to go to. a common problem is trying to play to device the speakers arent hooked to
[04:33] <cappicard> hey folks. i'm running lucid x64, and flash has been crashing way too often...
[04:34] <cappicard> causing me to have to reload the page
[04:34] <TomT64> seanw: I tried the driver, and it does read smaller partitions but I have a 2 TB drive with most of the drive taken up by a single partition.  Seems like it won't read over a certain size?
[04:34] <[Screamo]> chalcedny, you get into bios yet?
[04:34] <chalcedny> f11 = boot menu
[04:34] <[Screamo]> =/
[04:35] <kelberry> Here is the link alsa provided me! http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=8f999b98c1b2f23cae05e6bf82cdd45c77f254a0
[04:35] <chalcedny> nope i'm back at the username screen
[04:35] <[Screamo]> what kind of desktop is it, so i can look up how to get into bios for you
[04:35] <[Screamo]> or, you could try kitting all the F keys
[04:35] <chalcedny> ok let me find someplace where i have it's details [Screamo]
[04:35] <[Screamo]> i think on this mobo bios = holding down del key for 5 seconds =/
[04:37] <kelberry> Was that the output that you guys needed?
 kelberry: you've got integrated audio and X-Fi. I would like to see (as maco suggested) the file generated by "bash alsa-info.sh" using  http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh
[04:38] <maco> [Screamo]: kelberry gave it above
[04:38] <kelberry> Oh, I did output it in an earlier message, thanks for assisting though Screamo. :)
[04:38] <[Screamo]> oh
[04:38] <[Screamo]> i misread it as her asking what was the output you wanted
[04:38] <[Screamo]> >.>
[04:39] <Vin73> is there a way to force apt-get to flush its database?
[04:40] <fodder70> yes sudo apt-get clean
[04:41] <chalcedny> [Screamo], http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=A780GXH/128M
[04:41] <thune3> kelberry: alsa config looks good, there are a few squirrely messages in the dmesg at the bootom, but nothing to worry about yet.
[04:41] <kelberry> Oh, okay.
[04:41] <kelberry> So what are your suggestions? :)
[04:43] <thune3> kelberry: how are you plugged in to sound? external speakers? headhpones?
[04:43] <kelberry> Headphones at the moment.
[04:44] <thune3> kelberry: it's hard to tell if the headphone socket is connected to the interal audio or the soundcard. Can you connect around back to the headphone socket that is near the main socket bay (not the pci card)
[04:45] <mataks_> help please how to add different workspace? i accidentally deleted mine
[04:45] <kelberry> Um, sure! Let me try. :)
[04:45] <chalcedny> [Screamo], it's f2
[04:45] <chalcedny> got it!
[04:45] <forge_> hi so what is the difference between free disk space and available disk space
[04:45] <kelberry> Would it be easier if I just unplug the headphones?
[04:46] <forge_> df -h tells me that for me it is about 20 Gb that I should have free but I don't have abailable
[04:46] <forge_> does anyone know what cause this
[04:47] <kelberry> Well, let me try plugging them into the back.
[04:47] <thune3> kelberry: sure, but make sure speakers are connected to the main bay (internal sound) and not the soundcard
[04:48] <chalcedny> [Screamo], did it say where in bios to look? I don't see it (sorry should have told you i'm visually impaired)
[04:49] <SeanInSeattle> Hey all.  I've found that my local postgre sql server isn't starting automatically... any ideas how to get it to start automatically?
[04:50] <[Screamo]> chalcedny, not sure, just look around
[04:50] <kelberry> I think I can only plug into the sound card, I can't seem to find another audio plug in, other than the front of my computer.
[04:51] <[Screamo]> chalcedny, do you have a Livecd you could boot into?
[04:51] <chalcedny> not for 9.04 but for 10.04 i do
[04:51] <[Screamo]> i would try that
[04:52] <[Screamo]> i dont see the bios disabling something by itself
[04:52] <[Screamo]> so boot into the livecd, and if it still doesn't work, i think its safe to say that your NIC is fried
[04:53] <trevor_> can anyone help me with dual monitor problems
[04:53] <thune3> kelberry: ok. looking something up...
[04:54] <fodder70> hi all. i have gkrellm installed and wanted the eth0 to popup gkrellm on usage i tried the command mplayer /home/username/Downloads/beep.wav && wmctrl -a "gkrellm"  however it didnt seem to work correctly so i made a .sh for it to run, any suggestions on improving this please.
[04:55] <r000t> hey xchat's "beep in private message" does NOT ork
[04:55] <r000t> no sound is made
[04:55] <r000t> Ubuntu can generate other system sounds (critical stop, dialog error, dialog question) and other sources cna play audio (Flash, mplayer, rythembox)
[04:56] <r000t> but xchat fails to beep
[04:56] <r000t> Is this supposed to be a motherboard beep?
[04:56] <chalcedny> [Screamo], what i don't have is a CD/DVD drive. not on this box.  I might have another nic card, i can't believe it fried just by overloading it with stuff being open?
[04:56] <[Screamo]> chalcedny, you might try putting the other card in there
[04:58] <[Screamo]> r000t, if im not mistaken, xchat trys to use sounds in /.xchat2/sounds
[04:58] <r000t> yeah just realized that
[04:58] <chalcedny> [Screamo], i have a pile of them, how do i tell which ones aren 't antiques?
[04:58] <[Screamo]> by default that folder doesnt exist
[04:58] <r000t> imma replace them with Vent sounds now instead of Scout sounds
[04:58] <r000t> do they need special names?
[04:58] <loctrice> anyone have cedega can help me out with something?
[04:58] <[Screamo]> not sure
[04:59] <TomT64> woo 1337 users
[04:59] <nikon> can someone tell me the proper way to install ubuntulooks engine?
[04:59] <lucas-arg> hello, is there a rolling release of ubuntu?
[04:59] <fodder70> :)
[04:59] <TomT64> dan
[04:59] <TomT64> damn*
[04:59] <xangua> lucas-arg: no
[04:59] <TomT64> fun while it lasted :D
[04:59] <[Screamo]> back again
[04:59] <lucas-arg> xangua: is gonna ever be one?
[05:00] <xangua> canonical says no
[05:00] <loctrice> I play steam games through cedega recently. I found thier support is a lil behind the curve (no support) even though it's paid. I have a mouse issue after I play a few minutes where the game window will not register input anymore. wonder if anyone knows a fix
[05:00] <forge_> does anyone know why there would be a huge difference between free space and available  free space when you use df I have about 20 Gb just not available to be used
[05:00] <lucas-arg> canonical should think about it then... i hope they do
[05:00] <nikon> can someone tell me the proper way to install ubuntulooks engine?
[05:02] <lucas-arg> nikon: open synaptic and type ubuntulooks... should be a package named like that gtk-engies-ubuntu-looks or ubuntulooks or something like that
[05:02] <DannyButterman> Can someone help me set up a vpn ?
[05:02] <r000t> Your face when 1337 people are in the Ubuntu IRC
[05:02] <david> hello
[05:02] <r000t> and only of them has ops
[05:03] <matthew_> how can I prohibit a partition from mounting on startup?
[05:03] <r000t> Remove it from the bootloader
[05:04] <maco> matthew_: put "noauto" in its entry in /etc/fstab
[05:04] <maco> matthew_: at the options part where it says "defaults"
[05:04] <maco> matthew_: just add a comma and "noauto"
[05:04] <matthew_> maco, thank you very much
[05:07] <zetheroo> the last update in Lucid messed up gthumb and GIMP >:o
[05:07] <y007ghg7> lol
[05:09] <zetheroo> why is it so quiet in here?
[05:09] <zetheroo> GIMP crashes when certain tools are selected and gthumb never opens
[05:09] <y007ghg7> we need 2 more people them we will have 1337 users
[05:09] <y007ghg7> then*
[05:09] <zetheroo> and then what?
[05:10] <y007ghg7> idk
[05:10] <zetheroo> :D
[05:11] <piyushmishra> how do I change my workgroup for windows
[05:11] <zetheroo> wow ... I have never seen this channel so dead
[05:11] <tucemiux> piyushmishra, are you testing your luck in this channel?
[05:11] <[Screamo]> lol..
[05:11] <piyushmishra> tucemix: somewhat ya
[05:11] <piyushmishra> :P
[05:12] <zetheroo> piyushmishra: this ain't a Windowz channel ...
[05:12] <y007ghg7> 1337 users
[05:12] <piyushmishra> tucemix: oops I forgot am on ubuntu
[05:12] <tucemiux> zetheroo, yup yup why dont you ask questions or is your ubuntu running just fine
[05:12] <tucemiux> piyushmishra, yup yup head on to ##windows
[05:12] <piyushmishra> ucemix: am on  network where all other pcs are win
[05:12] <zetheroo>  y007ghg7: why are you counting users :P
[05:12] <y007ghg7> idk
[05:12] <y007ghg7> cause we had 1337 users
[05:13] <zetheroo> tucemiux: did you not see my above issue?
[05:13] <piyushmishra> tucemix: you are getting me wrong man I am on ubuntu and other pcs are on win how do I change my workgroup
[05:13] <zetheroo>  tucemiux: the last update in Lucid messed up gthumb and GIMP - GIMP crashes when certain tools are selected and gthumb never opens
[05:14] <lucas-arg> if i do update-manager -d and upgrade everything, is upgrade going to be the lastest ubuntu? im asking this since i dont want to loose all configurations and software installed and start all over again... is it possible? is it ok to do this?
[05:14] <zetheroo>  tucemiux: whats with "yup yup"? :P
[05:14] <maco> lucas-arg: -d means it takes you to the deveopment version
[05:14] <maco> lucas-arg: itll take you to 10.10 alpha 2
[05:15] <lucas-arg> maco: but when final release is out, if i do that that will take me to lastest ubutnu, am i right?
[05:15] <Jordan_U> lucas-arg: If you want a rolling distro like Ubuntu try Debian unstable or testing.
[05:15] <tucemiux> zetheroo, sorry but i dont use 'oi mate'
[05:15] <maco> lucas-arg: no it ALWAYS means development version if you use -d
[05:16] <zetheroo> tucemiux: hehe
[05:16] <piyushmishra> anyone knws how to change the workgroup in a network?
[05:16] <maco> lucas-arg: if you just want a stable release, thatll show in the top part of update-manager normally
[05:16] <zetheroo>  piyushmishra: smb.conf
[05:16] <lucas-arg> so i have to re-download the cd every 6 months and start all over again?
[05:16] <maco> lucas-arg: if youre on a LTS release itll only show the next LTS by default. you change that in system -> administration -> software sources
[05:16] <maco> lucas-arg: no
[05:16] <Jordan_U> maco: Well, sometimes it means an LTS that hasn't hit .1 yet.
[05:16] <tucemiux> piyushmishra, right clich computer --> properties
[05:16] <piyushmishra> zetheroo: where is that file?
[05:17] <maco> Jordan_U: by "sometimes" you mean "only with lucid" right? because hardy didnt make you wait til .1
[05:17] <zetheroo> /etc/samba/smb.conf
[05:17] <maco> lucas-arg: no
[05:17] <lucas-arg> maco: so if i set it to normal releases and wait until 10.10 is out, i can upgrade to that version with synaptic?
[05:17] <Jordan_U> maco: Yes, and likely future versions.
[05:17] <zetheroo> piyushmishra: ^^
[05:17] <maco> lucas-arg: yes
[05:17] <piyushmishra> zetheroo.tucemix: ty lemme try
[05:17] <lucas-arg> maco: so its "kinda" rolling release... i mean... i can have lastest version anyways and not loose all what ive done...
[05:18] <maco> Jordan_U: hmmm now i wonder whether hardy's update manager on kubuntu will stupidly suggest 10.10 when kubuntu 8.04 wasnt lts and so kubuntu 8.04 -> 10.04 upgrades arent supported
[05:18] <maco> lucas-arg: it's not rolling, no. the closest you get to rolling is constantly running the devel version
[05:18] <maco> lucas-arg: its just that it allows upgrade-over-the-internet
[05:18] <Jordan_U> lucas-arg: That's not what makes a distro a rolling release distro. A rolling distro doesn't have releases at all.
[05:18] <maco> lucas-arg: the release names in /etc/apt/sources.list will still be updated for example
[05:19] <zetheroo> piyushmishra: btw, samba networking sucks in Ubuntu ... so you may want to try getting your shares working across the network some other way
[05:19] <maco> Jordan_U: i dont actually remember that .1 thing being decided at UDS either. i wonder what session i was in at the time...
[05:20] <lucas-arg> Jordan_U: maco, i know the point u are refering, but... what im trying to know is if i just upgrade whenever 10.10 is out, from synaptic... im going to have lastest release (if i configure to do so) so i dont have to download the cd again and re-install all packages ive downloaded already...
[05:20] <zetheroo> anyone experienced with dvd::rip?
[05:20] <maco> lucas-arg: yes you will
[05:20] <maco> lucas-arg: its called an online upgrade
[05:20] <piyushmishra> zetheroo: can you tell me how?
[05:20] <maco> lucas-arg: or a dist-upgrade
[05:20] <IdleOne> lucas-arg: when 10.10 is released you can upgrade and yes you will have the latest 10.10 release at that time
[05:21] <zetheroo> piyushmishra: have you tried Samba first?
[05:21] <lucas-arg> maco: great... thanks, i was thinking on moving to rolling release distro, but i see now how it works...
[05:22] <piyushmishra> zetheroo: yes I can share files and access other ppl's files also
[05:22] <zetheroo> piyushmishra: ok cool ... it's working for you then ;)
[05:22] <piyushmishra> zetheroo: just needed to change my workgroup n ty u helped me do that
[05:22] <zetheroo> piyushmishra: no worries
[05:26] <bricky> hello fellow linux associates
[05:26] <Colonel_panic> hey bricky
[05:26] <bricky> hows it going tonight? weekend was awsome!
[05:26] <Colonel_panic> relaxed
[05:27] <bricky> hehe hardly what mine was like, offroading :D
[05:27] <bricky> we smashed them up good,
[05:28] <bricky> junk vans on private property
[05:28] <bricky> killer baja :) lol
[05:28] <alteregoa> shaka when the walls fell
[05:28] <owen1> MacBook Pro 5,1 + lucid = no wireless (BCM4322). any tips?
[05:29] <iflema> !broadcom | owen1
[05:30] <owen1> out of curiousity. no one tested broadcom on lucid BEFORE shipping lucid?
[05:30] <Colonel_panic> I'm running Crunchbang on a Dell Mini9 with the BCM4322
[05:30] <un214> I doubt it.
[05:30] <un214> It's junk hardware anyway.
[05:30] <maco> owen1: did you use the restricted driver manager?
[05:30] <Colonel_panic> owen1
[05:31] <Colonel_panic> you want the wl-broadcom driver
[05:31] <Colonel_panic> yeah
[05:31] <owen1> maco: yes. i see the wireless networks around me. just can't connect to anyone...
[05:31] <zetheroo> how do you copy a DVD which is over a regular DVD size?
[05:31] <bricky> owen1: im having the same problem.
[05:31] <maco> oh
[05:31] <pukeko> how can i apt-get install "just the security updates"  ?
[05:31]  * maco shurgs
[05:31] <maco> *shrugs
[05:31] <owen1> bricky: even with no encription i can't connect
[05:31] <maco> pukeko: system -> administration -> software sources. disable the regular updates
[05:32] <bricky> which brings me to my 'in depth research' after monthes on and off.
[05:32] <jenue> guys, what is the command to echo max amount of memory installed?
[05:32] <pukeko> maco: its a headless box cli only
[05:32] <un214> it can be found in cat /proc/meminfo
[05:32] <fodder70> zetheroo: try k9copy
[05:32] <un214> a pass through grep and sed should be able to reduce it
[05:32] <owen1> bricky: did u follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[05:32] <maco> pukeko: oh. edit /etc/apt/sources.list and get rid of the lucid-updates or whatever your version is line
[05:32] <zetheroo> fodder70: kde app?
[05:32] <maco> pukeko: but leave lucid-security
[05:33] <fodder70> probably , im on gnome
[05:33] <owen1> i have b43-fwcutter. it's still not working
[05:33] <glick> is anyone running the latest ubuntu netbook?
[05:33] <pukeko> maco: ahha ! but how to auto update them ?
[05:33] <glick> how is it?
[05:33] <un214> I'm really rather annoyed at the devs right now
[05:33] <maco> owen1: fwcutter is for with the b43 driver not the wl driver
[05:33] <bricky> owen1: which driver did you cut and use,
[05:33] <maco> owen1: the wl driver is the proprietary one made by broadcom for the card
[05:33] <owen1> bricky: i don't know
[05:33] <maco> pukeko: cron
[05:33] <owen1> maco: where do i get wl?
[05:33] <glick> has anyone had a simular problem with the asus eeepcs just all of sudden shutting off?
[05:34] <zetheroo> I am using dvd::rip to backup my DVD's and most of them will stall on the ripping part ... the DVD's are in good condition though ...
[05:34] <un214> I want to be a part of this community but can't be as in order to deal with some junk the devs put into the repository I had to graft my system in a way that makes it unlike any other system
[05:34] <fodder70> zetheroo: ill tell you how it goes in about 7 more minutes
[05:34] <maco> owen1: restricted manager
[05:34] <bricky> owen1: I couldnt even get my light to turn on which laptop do you use?
[05:34] <jwfoxjr> can Python 3.1 and the installed 2.6 exist side by side in Lucid? Is it just a matter of just doing an 'apt-get install python3.1' ?
[05:34] <owen1> maco: do u mean 'sudo jockey-gtk' ?
[05:34] <maco> owen1: yeah
[05:34] <owen1> bricky: macbookpro
[05:34] <zetheroo> fodder70: ;)
[05:34] <nikon> ok how do i copy files into a folder with root permission?
[05:34] <pukeko> maco: so its just apt-get update ? does this install the available updates ?
[05:34] <glick> is there a channel for eee pcs and ubuntu?
[05:34] <maco> owen1: though you should use gksudo
[05:34] <maco> owen1: never use sudo with a graphica app
[05:35] <maco> pukeko: that checks or updates
[05:35] <owen1> maco: i have the restricted driver green. enabled.
[05:35] <maco> pukeko: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y upgrade
[05:35] <nikon> ok how do i copy files into a folder with root permission?
[05:35] <un214> I'd love to see a demonstration that X11 messaging doesn't carry any exploits
[05:36] <pukeko> maco: cool so that combined with a commented out sources.list will auto update security updates only then ? cool
[05:36] <maco> pukeko: yeah if you put that in your cron config
[05:36] <glick> how is the ubuntu netbook edition?
[05:36] <maco> nikon: sudo
[05:36] <pukeko> maco: cheers man
[05:36] <maco> nikon: sudo cp file /path/to/new/location
[05:36] <nikon> thnxs
[05:37] <pukeko> maco: security updates dont break things do they ?
[05:37] <owen1> maco: you can see my outputs here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1524111
[05:37] <Vin73> hi, I need some help with some issue that I am facing with brining up the wireless interface on my laptop running lucid
[05:37] <maco> pukeko: not normally
[05:37] <Vin73> I have successfully installed the b43legacy driver that was automatically detected for the chipset
[05:37] <pukeko> maco:thanks again
[05:37] <owen1> bricky: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1524111   try the commands i did, see if u get similar output.
[05:38] <owen1> bricky: so we can fight the broadcom fight together
[05:38] <Vin73> but even after installing the same, I cannot make the laptop detect an AP close by...
[05:38] <chalcedny> [Screamo], the extra card works.. no idea how i did that though
[05:38] <owen1> actually war. not fight
[05:38] <bricky> owen1: okay give me a minute to try
[05:38] <owen1> i use wicd-client btw
[05:38] <Vin73> could I be missing some additional steps becuase of which this is not working?
[05:38] <owen1> bricky: ^^ instead of network manager.
[05:38] <bricky> ok,
[05:40] <Vin73> hello...
[05:40] <EscaperZ> hello all
[05:40] <[Screamo]> chalcedny, then it seems the other card is dead
[05:41] <chalcedny> [Screamo], i guess so. .this is a less than a year old computer .. darn
[05:41] <chalcedny> [Screamo], i sure appreciate all your help!!!
[05:41] <Ego_Proctor> oh man, I have gotten doom to work in ubuntu and now my teeth are itching to find someone to play coop with me.  I am trying to convince my girlfriend, but she refuses to watch scary movies, and well the OG Doom games are some of the scariest I have every played....
[05:41] <chalcedny> thank you lots!
[05:42] <un214> so I'm debating whether or not I should start removing now vesgistal boot packages
[05:42] <un214> upstart -- will never run again
[05:42] <un214> plymouth -- ditto
[05:43] <un214> sysvinit-utils -- mostly useless
[05:43] <un214> grub2 -- clobbered
[05:43] <jarrett> Would anybody happen to know why my web browser is now slower after i did the update from 9 to version 10?
[05:43] <Miles_0o0> Q:  I can send email from the command line ok but I keep getting this in my logs when trying from php mail():  xxxx@xxxx.com is undeliverable: Unrouteable address.  I've Googled all day this issue and still no solution.  Anyone?
[05:45] <EscaperZ> ?
[05:45] <[Screamo]> ??
[05:45] <chalcedny> does anyone know where to look in logs to see what broke my onboard lan?
[05:46] <hey> hello. I am looking for a incredibly light weight desktop environment that works with xubuntu because xubuntu does not cut it down enough ??
[05:46] <hey> any ideas please
[05:46] <jarrett> Would anybody happen to know why my web browser is now slower after i did the update from 9 to version 10?
[05:46] <sebsebseb> hey: maybe Lubuntu/LXDE ?
[05:46] <sebsebseb> hey: or not, but thats more lite waight than Xubuntu
[05:47] <iflema>    
[05:47] <hey> nice
[05:47] <hey> thank you
[05:47] <hey> also
[05:47] <sebsebseb> !lubuntu | hey
[05:47] <hey> is it debian based?
[05:47] <sebsebseb> hey: sure since its basically just Ubuntu with LXDE instead of Gnome
[05:47] <hey> thank you appreciate your help
[05:48] <sebsebseb> hey: your welcome
[05:48] <netwidget> New to Ubuntu, Linux, and networking.  Setting up home network on server 10.04 with all DHCP.  DSL is DHCP.  does dynamic DNS allow me to set up static  IP in server?
[05:48] <chalcedny> [Screamo], is there anything i should log or do or just do update etc since i shut it down, and just go on doing what i do?
[05:48] <sebsebseb> hey: apparnatly Lubuntu is quite  a lot more lite waight than Xubuntu, not sure how true that really is though.  Either way though LXDE is rather nice :)
[05:49] <Vin73> hi, rfkill shows be a hardblock, any idea how to unblock the same?
[05:49] <jarrett> Would anybody happen to know why my web browser is now slower after i did the update from 9 to version 10?
[05:49] <EscaperZ> hello all, anyone can tell how to change the SMB name in 10.04 ?
[05:50] <tyler_d> whats the amd64 bit linux header?
[05:52] <jarrett> Would anybody happen to know why my web browser is now slower after i did the update from 9 to version 10?
[05:52] <glick> anyone running the new netbook remix?
[05:53] <sebsebseb> jarrett: Flash possibily
[05:54] <jarrett> sebsebseb: well i'm to sharp on linux yet but what flash?
[05:54] <sebsebseb> jarrett: uh?  Adobe Flash
[05:54] <sebsebseb> netwidget: #ubuntu-server for server edition support
[05:55] <glick> whats the ubuntu netbook channel?
[05:55] <jarrett> sebsebseb: ohh got yah  well it loads fine but just the general surfing is slow  but updates are as fast as always
[05:55] <sebsebseb> glick: This one
[05:56] <sebsebseb> jarrett: Firefox :) and the speed will be improved in Firefox 4.  Anyway the best browser for Desktop Linux and that is also rather fast,  for me is  Konqueror :) and thats one of my browsers of choice after Firefox,  and the one I would normally use I guess
[05:57] <sebsebseb> jarrett: KDE app though, so will want to put on quite a lot of KDE apps on if you haven't installed a KDE app before, but not a problem, as long as your partition insn't really stupidly sized, and Desktop Linux is designed to have many apps installed without problems, unlike Windows.
[05:57] <sebsebseb> jarrett: Epiphany is also nice the Gnome default browser, and the previous default Gnome browser Galeon is quite nice as well.
[05:57] <Lekter> hi
[05:59] <jarrett> subsebseb: well im running ubuntu 10.4 now with the default firefox and i've never had a problem before with it but after the update to version 10 for some reason now firefox is running slow. And this is the only partion on the HD i wiped out windows :)
 yea just copied it booting VM now
[06:02] <sebsebseb> hey: copied it? and vm what?
[06:02] <sebsebseb> hey: you can install it into your xubuntu install
[06:02] <sebsebseb> hey: have both on same computer like that yeah, and get into them from log in screen
[06:03] <rinku_kokiri> upon shutdown i receive "Deconfiguring network interfaces...ifdown: unrecognized option '--exclude=lo'
[06:03] <sebsebseb> hey: and LXDM with its Lubuntu theme is a rather nice log in screen
[06:04] <rinku_kokiri> is it something i should worry about?
[06:05] <hey> virtual machine
[06:05] <hey> VM
[06:05] <hey> my host is XP
[06:05] <hey> I am bopoted off live xubuntu cd for x-chat
[06:06] <Sereph> any idea why ubuntu would underclock my cpu?
[06:06] <rinku_kokiri> throttling?
[06:06] <rinku_kokiri> my amd has that
[06:06] <hey> also
[06:06] <hey> if your not using power
[06:06] <rinku_kokiri> has to do with energy star awy something like that
[06:06] <Sereph> rinku_kokiri: well this applet for awt window manager lets me change it from 900, to the stock 1.8
[06:07] <hey> some cpus do it to save juice
[06:07] <hey> cuts down wear and tear on cpu
[06:07] <uzi_> #coreboot
[06:07] <hey> when work load hits it will more than likley boost
[06:07] <Sereph> but it says on demand, so that means it will clock it to 1.8 if needed?
[06:07] <Sereph> hm...
[06:07] <rinku_kokiri> is it a big deal if ifdown reports '--exclude=lo' is a bad option upon shutdown?
[06:07] <sebsebseb> hey: Windows as host?  Should be the other way round really :)  if Windows at all
[06:07] <Sereph> any idea what I can use to make load go up to test that?
[06:08] <hey> I am a gamer TT
[06:08] <sebsebseb> hey: oh
[06:08] <hey> lol
[06:08] <sebsebseb> hey: can get a lot of Windows games working in Wine, plus there are good native Linux games
[06:08] <rinku_kokiri> sebsebseb:  i has codebian lolz
[06:08] <sebsebseb> rinku_kokiri: What?
[06:08] <Sereph> maybe I need a cpu that I can go from 200mhz up to 3.0ghz :)
[06:08] <rinku_kokiri> coDebian
[06:08] <hey> I play most the native linux games I have it booting vrom a virtual hard disk
[06:08] <sebsebseb> rinku_kokiri: coLinux?
[06:08] <rinku_kokiri> colinux + debian
[06:09] <hey> it only looses 3% power that way and I do not have to repartition my HDD
[06:09] <rinku_kokiri> and sebsebseb   get Sims Workin and i'll fully switch :D :D
[06:09] <jarrett> sebsebseb: thanks Konqueror did the trick don't know why firefox was being slow but Konqueror isn't!
[06:09] <sebsebseb> hey: ok and you do web browsing and such in your Linux vm?
[06:09] <hey> and wine is still virtualization and it eats a TON of power. I have a rough time with it
[06:09] <sebsebseb> jarrett: indeed its rather fast isn't it?
[06:09] <hey> yes
[06:09] <hey> llol
[06:09] <hey> my windows is only for games
[06:09] <R3cur51v3> The bottom half of my screen will sometimes randomly have black horizontal lines flash over it. Is this likely due to a buggy video card driver? It's an integrated Intel card. I need to know whether I should contact the manufacturer on warranty or if it's a software issue.
[06:09] <Sereph> hey: mine is for that and syncing my ipod
[06:09] <sebsebseb> hey: ok good, so helping with Linux market share when you can :)  well browser market share and such at least
[06:10] <R3cur51v3> The lines last for a fraction of a second, and the issue has only appeared in the last month or so.
[06:10] <sebsebseb> rinku_kokiri: you can do the latest Sims in Wine
[06:10] <hey> haha yea
[06:10] <ulziibuyan> does system bios init graphics card?
[06:10] <hey> it is tough to get someone to try ubuntu
[06:10] <sebsebseb> hey: so you mainly play  Windows games on the computer? hence no dual boot?
[06:10] <R3cur51v3> It really doesn't impair usability, but I fear it's a sign of a degrading monitor that will eventually become worthless.
[06:10] <hey> they are so windows set never will busge
[06:11] <hey> when I play my linux games I boot nativly off my virtual hard drive
[06:11] <hey> I use WUBI
[06:11] <sebsebseb> hey: they are all so what?  locked into Windows?  well yes.   Oh by the way there are loads of other great Linux distros out there as well :)  not even this site has them all.  http://www.distrowatch.com
[06:11] <sebsebseb> hey: oh wubi
[06:12] <hey> haha yea
[06:12] <forge_> hey does anyone know why df will show disk spaced used and then the disk space available does not correspond to how much should be left
[06:12] <hey> I am accually compiling a tech CD
[06:12] <sebsebseb> hey: ok for short term Ubuntu useage, when it works, not so great for long term useage.  Proper partitioned install is better :)   I thought you were actsaully running a vm of Ubuntu inside WIndows.
[06:12] <sebsebseb> hey: compiling a tech CD?
[06:12] <hey> yea
[06:13] <hey> so far I have 7 installed and working AV that scan windows partitions running in linux
[06:13] <jarrett_> sebsebseb: Alot faster than firefox was.  Wonder if you know this one.  Ok I updaded another comp. that was running 9.10 to version 10  It was using a usb wireless internet adapter and now version 10 won't even acknowledge the device and only way to get on the net is to be hard wired. so what happened?
[06:13] <hey> I have been playing with remastersys
[06:13] <hey> and making my own boot cd
[06:14] <hey> onlything is I had a hard enough time using debian bulds and such getting everything installed I do not want to try with diffrent distro
[06:15] <hey> when the software app is not good enough it is a head ache doing everything manually
[06:15] <sebsebseb> jarrett_: indeed  Konqueror is faster than FIrefox, its also a file manager,  used to be the default for KDE before Dolphin.  Also surely you have heard of Google Chrome maybe even chromium which you can get from the repo if you really want.  Anyway  they use Webkit,  which is the rendering engine Apple's Safari uses as well, and its a fork of the KHTML one that Konqueror uses to display webpages.  Chrome/Chromeium :(  ,but better than Internet
[06:15] <sebsebseb> Explorer.  Firefox and Konqueror and such :)
[06:16] <sebsebseb> jarrett_: I wonder why Apple didn't just improve KHTML instead of making their own version of it.  Also sometimes hardware that worked in a previous version no longer does in a later.
[06:16] <hey> Lubuntu login screen is pretty sweet give them that
[06:16] <deadparakeets> :)
[06:16] <sebsebseb> hey: indeed it is
[06:16] <sebsebseb> hey: KDM is quite nice as well the KDE one
[06:16] <deadparakeets> this must be the antisocial chatroom
[06:17] <sebsebseb> deadparakeets: uhmm?
[06:17] <hey> kubuntu?
[06:17] <deadparakeets> :D
[06:17] <sebsebseb> hey: yes
[06:17] <deadparakeets> yes a freezer full of dead parakeets
[06:17] <hey> yea I used kubuntu alot
[06:17] <sebsebseb> hey: which you can also install into your Ubuntu/Lubuntu install
[06:17] <hey> very nice
[06:17] <chalcedny> ulp .. i still don't have internet back
[06:17] <deadparakeets> :)
[06:17] <sebsebseb> !ot | deadparakeets
[06:18] <deadparakeets> no worries
[06:18] <jarrett_> sebsebseb: well maybe they did away with the usb wifi drivers with the new update idk. But i do know that my pci wireless card still works :) haha my mother don't need internet anyways
[06:18] <deadparakeets> i just installed it
[06:18] <deadparakeets> im still having issues with flash files
[06:18] <chalcedny> lol jarrett_
[06:18] <sebsebseb> jarrett_: well I guess its a mess around trying to get it working natively,  try ndiswrapper with the Windows driver,  downgrade back to 9.10 which is fine, since its still supported and untill the end of April next year. Or another option is do some other LInux distro.
[06:19] <jarrett_> chalcedny: lol
[06:19] <chalcedny> what do i need to do to enable internet with a secodnary card? the primary seems to have died.
[06:19] <chalcedny> wired lan
[06:19] <deadparakeets> usb wifi card
[06:20] <chalcedny> not usb .. this is a desktop
[06:20] <deadparakeets> still works
[06:20] <sebsebseb> chalcedny: ethernet should just work
[06:20] <chalcedny> sebsebseb, that's what i thought. it's not though
[06:20] <sebsebseb> chalcedny: and so should a LAN with a router, as long as stuff is set up properly
[06:21] <jarrett_> sebsebseb: i believe i'll just downgrade it as much as i hate to i kinda like the new version myself and all she know is ubuntu and windows and the more i have to use windows the more i hate it viruses every week and you can never find drivers.
[06:21] <chalcedny> sebsebseb, my computer locked up, i thought it was just some bug making a lot of screenshots, but rebooted and there is no lan card showing. so i added a spare i had here... and still not connecting
[06:22] <sebsebseb> jarrett_: 10.04 offers little proper advantage if any really.  the boot up doesn't always work properly,  not that many people using the cloud or  music store I guess, and the themes aren't that great by default either
[06:22] <sebsebseb> jarrett_: so going to download a new 9.10 ISO or still got a CD?
[06:23] <chalcedny> http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=A780GXH/128M  sebsebseb it's this mb
[06:23] <sebsebseb> chalcedny: networking isn't really my area,  and this channel  is not that active at the moment, so could be worth trying ##linux maybe even ##networking
[06:24] <jarrett_> sebsebseb: i still got a cd well like 3 but yah i like having extras I try to convert ppl to the linux world haha
[06:24] <chalcedny> sebsebseb, thanks
[06:24] <sebsebseb> jarrett_: well when it comes to ISO's you know its a good idea to check them before using right?
[06:25] <jarrett_> sebsebseb: yah i've checked all of um and used them b4 on different comps. so far so good
[06:25] <scar_> how do I report a bug without using filebug
[06:25] <sebsebseb> jarrett_: also a bit off topic, but heres something you could possibily use, when trying to get others to use Ubuntu or some other Linux distro :)
[06:27] <sebsebseb> jarrett_: well not a direct link since theres a good comment, but  make sure to check out the actual article/interview as well yeah.  Basically a not so technical woman that did Ubuntu and about that. http://www.linuxtoday.com/it_management/2010070500435INCYDP
[06:27] <alteregoa> shaka when the walls fell
[06:28] <sebsebseb> !ot | alteregoa
[06:29] <Luija1006> Guys my laptop does not wanna read dvds, whats going on?
[06:29] <jarrett_> sebsebseb: ok i'll check it out. I originally was going to only use this comp for my amatuer radio (ham radio) hobbie but the more i use linux the more i like it.
[06:29] <nesbitt> could someone please help me with grub: i was attempting to install Lubuntu to a USB drive but neglected to change the boot settings in the installer, so it added my usb drive with lubuntu to the grub list on the system. now when i boot up without the usb drive in the machine, grub doesn't load (i get "error: no such device:..." and a "grub rescue>" prompt. booting with the usb plugged in is fine.
[06:29] <sebsebseb> Luija1006: commercial DVD's?
[06:29] <Luija1006> well
[06:29] <Luija1006> yes
[06:30] <sebsebseb> Luija1006: ok you need libdvdcss2/3
[06:30] <sebsebseb> !medibuntu | Luija1006
[06:30] <sebsebseb> jarrett_: whats ham radio?  I mean I  have heard/read  that theres something called ham radio before
[06:31] <[Screamo]> whats a good ftp server that is Easy to set up?
[06:31] <sebsebseb> !ftp
[06:31] <sebsebseb> !FTPd
[06:32] <sebsebseb> [Screamo]: there ^
[06:32] <[Screamo]> >.>
[06:32] <[Screamo]> i ust want something quick and easy to setup
[06:32] <[Screamo]> *just
[06:32] <sebsebseb> [Screamo]: What does that mean basically :)  or ?
[06:32] <Luija1006> sebsebseb: after that i restart and I will be able to read dvds?
[06:33] <cpf> [Screamo], gproftpd, the bot said it.
[06:33] <jarrett_> amatuer radio or ham radio is basically talking to ppl using radios alot of 2days technology has come from ham radio.  celphones, internet chat lots of thing bassicaly just using a radio to talk a few miles or around the world
[06:33] <sebsebseb> Luija1006: restart?  uhmm  you only need to restart a Linux distro for major packages, such as a new kernel
[06:33] <[Screamo]> sebsebseb, its just for local network, my smb sharing stopped working
[06:33] <sebsebseb> jarrett_: oh
[06:33] <[Screamo]> link?
[06:33] <sebsebseb> [Screamo]: what link?
[06:33] <[Screamo]> =/
[06:33] <sebsebseb> !samba | [Screamo]
[06:33] <[Screamo]> gah
[06:33] <[Screamo]> NO
[06:33] <[Screamo]> >.>
[06:34] <Luija1006> sebsebseb: dvds still not wanting to show
[06:34] <Luija1006> something wrong is happening
[06:34] <Luija1006> maybe somethign about the mounting?
[06:34] <Luija1006> dont know
[06:34] <Luija1006> how to mount it
[06:34] <FloodBot3> Luija1006: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:34] <Luija1006> lol...
[06:34] <sebsebseb> [Screamo]: well I  was going to do !samba before you even mentioned something about a link.  Anyway if your Samaba is broke you can probably fix it.
[06:35] <[Screamo]> heh its annoying i dont want to fix it =/
[06:35] <[Screamo]> E: Couldn't find package gproftpd
[06:35] <[Screamo]> >.>
[06:35] <Ex-Opesa> Its proftpd
[06:35] <jarrett_> sebsebseb: if i recall right there is a way to install windows inside linux just like having a mac and running windows at the same time.  Now would it be better/easier to dual boot for those win dependent programs?
[06:35] <mneptok> [Screamo]: do you plan to let anonymous users access the system?
[06:36] <[Screamo]> yea
[06:36] <Jordan_U> nesbitt: Boot your USB install and run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" to set the grub install device to the flash drive (select only the flash drive as a whole, do *not* select any partitions). Then boot into your HD install and run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc -pcritical" and grub will be properly installed to the HD again.
[06:36] <mneptok> [Screamo]: or is this for only people with actual user accounts?
[06:36] <cpf> jarrett_, Try Virtualbox
[06:36] <[Screamo]> its for my local (4) comp house network =/
[06:36] <sebsebseb> jarrett_: dual boot is so old fashioned :D  however is needed for a lot of 3D apps for example
[06:36] <[Screamo]> security is not an issue
[06:36] <mneptok> [Screamo]: then anonymous users are not necessary
[06:36] <sebsebseb> jarrett_: most Windows apps work fine in a  virtual machine on a computer with enough RAM and such
[06:36] <nesbitt> Jordan_U: excellent, thanks, trying now
[06:37] <sebsebseb> !virtualbox | jarrett_
[06:37] <mneptok> [Screamo]: will you be the only one accessing it? or other people, too?
[06:37] <sebsebseb> jarrett_: both versions are free as in price, the open source version in the repo lacks USB support, the other version has it
[06:37] <[Screamo]> other people (family members)
[06:37] <lucas-arg> is ubuntu 100% GNU?
[06:37] <sebsebseb> lucas-arg: no
[06:37] <mneptok> [Screamo]: so create accounts for them on the Ubuntu machine and use SFTP
[06:37] <cpf> It doesn't run the hurd hehe...
[06:37] <lucas-arg> what license does it have then, sebsebseb?
[06:37] <sebsebseb> !freedom | lucas-arg  jarrett_
[06:38] <mneptok> [Screamo]: SFTP is a no-brainer install and setup.
[06:38] <DesiArnez6> Hi, My stream was running very slow from here: mms://77.36.61.133:8071/Kiss%20TV well, whenever I made the window bigger the video ALSO got bigger, now after Synaptic delete and reinstall and "Add/Remove" delete and reinstall, NOW the window gets bigger but the video stays the same. How do I restore flexible video size?
[06:38] <[Screamo]> mneptok, i want something easy!
[06:38] <mneptok> [Screamo]: SFTP is far, far easier to set up than is FTP
[06:38] <jarrett_> cpf: ubottu: sebsebseb: thanks I'll look into these things. very helpful channel 2night :)
[06:38] <sebsebseb> !thanks | jarrett_
[06:39] <Hilikus> hey guys
[06:39] <Hilikus> i'm trying to add a user to my smb daemon
[06:39] <mneptok> [Screamo]: alternatively, install thttpd and just let everyone access it via a web browser
[06:39] <albech> can anyone recommend a ubuntu dist for eeepc 901? the ubuntu netbook it too big for the 4gb ssd
[06:39] <Hilikus> but when i to smbpasswd -a i get Failed to add entry for user smbguest
[06:39] <sebsebseb> jarrett_: Your welcome
[06:39] <[Screamo]> er
[06:40] <DesiArnez6> Hi, My stream was running very slow from here: mms://77.36.61.133:8071/Kiss%20TV well, whenever I made the window bigger the video ALSO got bigger, now after Synaptic delete and reinstall and "Add/Remove" delete and reinstall, NOW the window gets bigger but the video stays the same. How do I restore flexible video size?
[06:42] <jarrett_> sebsebseb: back to a old subject here but I've never back dated ubuntu what's a guy do to go from 10 to 9?
[06:42] <mneptok> jarrett_: not possible without a reinstall
[06:42] <nesbitt> Jordan_U: sorry, i'm stuck on the first screen... "The following Linux command line was extracted from /etc/default/grub or the `kopt' parameter in GRUB Legacy's menu.lst. Please verify that it is correct, and modify it if necessary."  Could you please point me to a tutorial or anything to get me started?
[06:42] <sebsebseb> !downgrade | jarrett_
[06:42] <albech> what is the minimal recommended disk space for a ubuntu netbook install?
[06:43] <DesiArnez6> Is there a way to undo any changes made in the last hour?
[06:43] <Jordan_U> nesbitt: Just keep the defaults for everything but the install devices question. Some will be blank, that's normal.
[06:44] <jarrett_> sounds like i'll have to put the 9.10 cd back in
[06:45] <nesbitt> Jordan_U: thanks, seems to have worked, now when i boot into my HDD installation should i remove the USB drive before running dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc?
[06:46] <Jordan_U> nesbitt: No need.
[06:46] <matthew_> can I edit the entries for the "places" section of the main menu...example: I want to change the "Music" location from /home/matthew/Music to /media/Storage/Music
[06:46] <sebsebseb> jarrett_: yep
[06:47] <jarrett_> sebsebseb: any idea why on a dual boot setup using wubi boot screen pops up and it says something like ubuntu v9.10 generic  whats the generic all about?
[06:47] <sebsebseb> jarrett_: oh your using WUbi?
[06:48] <sebsebseb> jarrett_: Wubi ok for short term Ubuntu trying, proper partitioned install much better in the long run :)
[06:48] <sebsebseb> jarrett_: remember to remove the 10.04 Wubi before  doing a proper partitioned install of 9.10, or doing the 9.10 Wubi
[06:49] <higor> Hello!
[06:49] <higor> I have three operating systems, Ubuntu 9.10 and Ubuntu 10.04 and Windows XP, as I do to uninstall ubuntu 09:10?
[06:49] <sebsebseb> higor: delete its partition
[06:49] <sebsebseb> higor: and hopefuly Grub 2 will update itself without a problem or you got to update it yourself after
[06:49] <sebsebseb> !grub2 | higor
[06:51] <jarrett_> sebsebseb: not using wubi on this desktop this one is straight ubuntu.  its on my laptop i keep a wubi dual boot setup on it because windows is prone to viruses and more that once i've used the ubuntu dual boot setup to retreive my windows data. but yah i was just wondering if the generic tag was just for the wubi installs
[06:51] <teknon> hello all
[06:51] <sebsebseb> jarrett_: well you can't just use the Ubuntu Live CD  to  gain data that is on a Wubi install
[06:51] <sebsebseb> jarrett_: to gain access to, above
[06:52] <nesbitt> Jordan_U: thanks for you help! everything appears to be working perfectly now :-)
[06:52] <jarrett_> sebsebseb well yah i could i guess i 4got about the live cd duh haha
[06:52] <Jordan_U> nesbitt: You're welcome :)
[06:52] <ross_> how do you test how good the security your computer has in ubuntu?
[06:53] <ross_> firewall/antivirus/etc
[06:53] <sebsebseb> jarrett_: on the subject of  Live CD's, good idea to check that the ISO is good before using
[06:53] <sebsebseb> !md5sum
[06:53] <sebsebseb> !hashes
[06:53] <wookienz> hi, i have a SW raid built  in bios. THe bios reports that the raid is healthy and functional. WHen i loaded ubuntu up it sees the drives but thinks that the raid is bad. One of the drives uses a GPT partitioning scheme while the other is not - not sure why that is - the other non-gpt drive seems to have no valid partition table. Is this normal for a raid 0 set? Can i use fdisk or equiv to...
[06:53] <wookienz> ...re write the partition table?
[06:54] <Jordan_U> wookienz: Why are you using Fake RAID rather than pure software RAID?
[06:54] <jarrett_> sebsebseb: yah seems like my live cd will work on one machine but not the next weird but yah
[06:55] <wookienz> Jordan_U: good question.... it just is.
[06:55] <zcat[1]> !info d4x
[06:57] <Jordan_U> wookienz: Yes, it's normal for only one pair of the members of the raid0 array to appear to have a partition table, since it's striped only one of them has the part of the array containing the partition table.
[06:57] <racecar> Hello, I have a quick question. I am using ubuntu 8.04 and the wireless usb adapter worked without having to fix anything. But when I switch the kernal to RTAI which I need for EMC2, it does not work. Do I need to install any special drivers for it? Thanks and sorry for my lack of knowledge with linux
[06:58] <jarrett_> sebsebseb: well thanks for all your help and letting me pick your brain but i think i'm going to call it a night
[07:00] <[Screamo]> arg
[07:00] <[Screamo]> sftp is slooooooooow
[07:00] <[Screamo]> >.>
[07:00] <kelberry> Hey, can someone help me with an audio card issue? :)
[07:00] <ashiswin> how do u list current processes in terminal?
[07:00] <IdleOne> ashiswin: ps aux
[07:00] <[Screamo]> kelberry, install another sound card >.>
[07:00] <ashiswin> k
[07:00] <ashiswin> thanks screamo
[07:00] <DesiArnez6> Hi, My stream was running very slow from here: mms://77.36.61.133:8071/Kiss%20TV well, whenever I made the window bigger the video ALSO got bigger, now after Synaptic delete and reinstall and "Add/Remove" delete and reinstall, NOW the window gets bigger but the video stays the same. How do I restore flexible video size?
[07:01] <[Screamo]> ashiswin, that was IdleOne not me =/
[07:01] <[Screamo]> DesiArnez6, that is not enough information
[07:01] <kelberry> Er, how do I install a new sound card? :)
[07:02] <Mithos> kelberry:  buy one and stick it into your cmputer if its a desktop
[07:02] <sebsebseb> jarrett_: ok no problem bye
[07:02] <ashiswin> o
[07:02] <ashiswin> thanks IdleOne
[07:02] <kelberry> Have any suggestions on which ones I should buy?
[07:02] <kelberry> one*
[07:02] <Mithos> kelberry:  well before i go right to that...
[07:03] <Mithos> kelberry:  what's the nature of your current issue?
[07:03]  * Mithos hates looking at scrollbacks
[07:03] <wookienz> Jordan_U: ok thanks for that. Any ideas on how i would get this raid 0 back? i have tried dmraid , mdadm, parted, gparted and have yet to find something that will being it back to life.
[07:04] <kelberry> Well, I currently had someone check out my issue, and they've been experimenting via VNC, and it seems the having two sound cards is an issue and it is loading them in an odd order, I'm not exactly sure on the specifics.
[07:04] <Jordan_U> wookienz: So your BIOS still thinks that the array is fine?
[07:04] <Mithos> kelberry:  what do you mean by two sound cards...
[07:04] <[Screamo]> kelberry, try disabling the onboard in bios
[07:04] <Mithos> kelberry:  typically systems come with only one... oh
[07:04] <Mithos> kelberry:  yeah try disabling onboard sound card in bios
[07:05] <[Screamo]> that is if you do have 2 sound cards
[07:05] <kelberry> Is there any tutorial on how to do so? I don't want to mess around with bios too much.
[07:05] <Mithos> kelberry:  depends on the BIOS, unfortunately.  each has a different configuration of where stuff shows up
[07:06] <kelberry> Ah, okay, are there any key things I should look for? Or will it be very obvious? :)
[07:06] <[Screamo]> kelberry, if you could, take a picture of the back of your computer and upload it
[07:06]  * [Screamo] is unsure if kelberry does indeed have 2 souncards
[07:06] <[Screamo]> *sound
[07:06] <rafael> Hello, can anyone here tell me what it means when I can't sudo modprobe nvidia?
[07:06] <rafael> or how to fix it?
[07:07] <kelberry> Well, um would aplay -l show if I have two sound cards?
[07:07] <rafael> When I boot up, my system immediately goes into low graphics mode and i think that if i fix this i'll fix the booting problem as well
[07:07] <[Screamo]> err
[07:07] <[Screamo]> kelberry, pastebin the output of lspci
[07:07] <Mithos> [Screamo]:  yeah thats a good point... could it just be seeing ALSA and some other software as well and not necessarily hardware sound cards?
[07:07] <kelberry> Okay. :)
[07:07]  * [Screamo] shrugs
[07:07]  * Mithos shrugs too
[07:08] <babrams> i never had to use this before to solve an issue so i am sorry that i dont know the protocol i am pretty new to ubuntu and recently got my roomate to switch and he is using 10.04 and everything was fine till firefox wasnt working naturally i starting pinging and evrrything seemed fine then i installed chrome to see if it was a browser related issue and everything works great but forefox dosnt work so i tried uninsatlling it and reinstalling and
[07:08] <[Screamo]> and?
[07:08] <kelberry> http://pastebin.com/GmHH22z7 There you are!
[07:08] <racecar> Hello, I have a quick question. I am using ubuntu 8.04 and the wireless usb adapter worked without having to fix anything. But when I switch the kernal to RTAI which I need for EMC2, it does not work. Do I need to install any special drivers for it? Thanks and sorry for my lack of knowledge with linux
[07:08] <Mithos> kelberry:  yeah you have 2 sound cards
[07:08] <[Screamo]> you do indeed have 2 soundcards kelberry
[07:09] <IdleOne> babrams: you got cut off at  forefox dosnt work so i tried uninsatlling it and reinstalling and...
[07:09] <[Screamo]> disable the onboard
[07:09] <Mithos> oh lord its an Intel onboard...
[07:09] <Mithos> >.<
[07:09] <higor> sebsebseb, ubottu:  I tried to delete the partition, but gparted tells me to delete the partition sda7 I have to delete all partitions with the number exceeding 7
[07:09] <kelberry> Which one is the onboard one? XD
[07:09] <[Screamo]> the creative labs should work just fine
[07:09] <[Screamo]> the intel
[07:09] <kelberry> I'm really bad at hardwear, okay.
[07:09] <Mithos> those can be quite pesky to turn off
[07:09] <kelberry> hardware*
[07:09] <babrams> and that didnt solve the problem so im not sure what else to do
[07:09] <kelberry> Oh, it can be hard to turn off?
[07:10] <[Screamo]> yeah
[07:10] <Mithos> kelberry:  sometimes...
[07:10] <Mithos> kelberry:  some BIOS' have easy interfaces to find it
[07:10] <sebsebseb> higor: ubottu is a bot a computer program, and I am leaving, so someone else can probably help you, if you tell them what your trying to do
[07:10] <wookienz> Jordan_U: yeah BIOS says it is fine. I am DD'ing the partitions at the moment - then i can really screw with it.
[07:10] <Mithos> kelberry:  some are just torture and wont let you o.o
[07:10] <[Screamo]> i like my mobo
[07:10] <kelberry> Ah, okay.
[07:10]  * Mithos likes his mobo too
[07:10] <[Screamo]> as old as it is
[07:10] <Mithos> :P
[07:10]  * Mithos recently replaced his
[07:10] <[Screamo]> its an abit i think =/
[07:10] <sebsebseb> higor: altough i'll be back later on
[07:10] <kelberry> Wait, to go into BIOS, you like press some F key over and over on start up correct?
[07:10] <ross_> firewall/antivirus/etc
[07:11] <ross_> how do you test how good the security your computer has in ubuntu?
[07:11] <Mithos> kelberry:  yep
[07:11] <[Screamo]> kelberry, what model is your computer?
[07:11] <empathise> .join
[07:11] <Mithos> kelberry:  what [Screamo] said :P
[07:11]  * [Screamo] bets on dell
[07:11] <kelberry> Er, um.
[07:11] <kelberry> HP, uh/
[07:11] <Mithos> oh lord
[07:11] <Mithos> if its Dell...
[07:11]  * Mithos kicks his internet... LAG!!!
[07:11] <kelberry> It says HP on it xD
[07:11] <[Screamo]> >.>
[07:12] <empathise> .me ff
[07:12] <[Screamo]> does it have any numberS?
[07:12]  * empathise ff
[07:12] <Mithos> whew i dont need to go on a rant about dell...
[07:12] <kelberry> Um.
[07:12]  * empathise got it
[07:12] <Mithos> kelberry:  yeah are there any numbers on the thing anywhere?
[07:12]  * [Screamo] hates onboard anything\
[07:12] <Mithos> :P
[07:12] <[Screamo]> you cant replace it =/
[07:12] <kelberry> d5100t?
[07:12] <Mithos> [Screamo]:  can I /query you?
[07:13] <Mithos> kelberry:  that's the model number.  its exactly what we were looking for :)
[07:13] <nomad77> ross_: install chkrootkit,rkhunter and check your firewall @ grc.com/shieldsup is what i would do if concerned
[07:13] <empathise> its all coming back to me now
[07:13] <[Screamo]> sure ith
[07:13] <[Screamo]>  Mithos *
[07:13] <[Screamo]> tab fail
[07:13] <ross_> nomad77 : let me check that shield up thing realick
[07:13] <l_o> anybody could help me for bnc
[07:13] <rafael> Does anyone here know why I keep booting into low graphics mode? It keeps telling me something to thet  effect of "couldn't find any screens to configure"
[07:13] <babrams> using ubuntu 10.04 and everything was fine till firefox wasnt working naturally i starting pinging and evrrything seemed fine then i installed chrome to see if it was a browser related issue and everything works great but forefox dosnt work so i tried uninsatlling it and reinstalling and that didnt solve it im not sure what else to do
[07:13] <l_o> i need free bnc
[07:13] <ross_> nomad77: are those softwares in the repository?
[07:14] <nomad77> yes
[07:14] <jook> I need some help with conky, but that channel is fully dead. Can anybody tell me why this works: "${fs_free_perc /media/sda1}%   ${fs_bar 6 /media/sda1}" but not this: "${fs_free_perc /media/sdb1}%   ${fs_bar 6 /media/sdb1}"
[07:15] <nomad77> ross_:  both should have manpages and you can do rkhunter --help ...etc
[07:15] <ross_> nomad77: installing chkrootkit right now, and I will be trying out that shieldsup in a sec
[07:15] <l_o> anybody could help me for bnc free bnc a/c??
[07:16] <ross_> nomad77: what about spyware?
[07:16] <ross_> nomad77: what is the equivalent of spybot/adaware in ubuntu?
[07:16] <Sereph> I just bought uplink that is supposed to work on linux... and i got this error running the setup script /home/tyler/.setup17356: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:16] <Meekrab> What are some good channels just to drop my epic BLAH
[07:16] <Meekrab> also hi
[07:16] <Meekrab> I use ubuntu
[07:16] <Meekrab> :_
[07:16] <Meekrab> :)
[07:16] <FloodBot3> Meekrab: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:17] <[Screamo]> kelberry
[07:17] <kelberry> Yes?
[07:17] <[Screamo]> do you like have another comp or something
[07:17] <[Screamo]> so you can remain online?
[07:17] <babrams> ubuntu 10.04 firefox started timing out but pinging has 0% packet loss and chrome works i tried un-installing and reinstalling it but that didnt work any ideas of what i should try next?
[07:17] <kelberry> Hm, I could use my brothers laptop.
[07:17] <kelberry> Be right back!
[07:18]  * l_o is searching free bnc a/c. Do any body have idea about it??
[07:19] <yassi> hi
[07:19] <babrams> ubuntu 10.04 firefox started timing out but pinging has 0% packet loss and chrome works i tried uninstalling and reinstalling it but that didnt work any ideas of what i should try next?
[07:20] <rafael> can anyone help me? i dont know why i keep booting into low-graphics mode. my system keeps saying there is a screen but that it isn't configured, and i dont know why
[07:21] <jook> rafael, i had something like that a while ago. Turned out my monitor cable wasn't fully plugged in. It's something easy to check, at least.
[07:21] <rafael> Yeah, but this is a laptop ;w;
[07:22] <kelberry> Anyone know any good IRC clients on windows?
[07:22] <rafael> thanks anyhow
[07:22] <l_o> rafael did u install ur grafic driver
[07:22] <jook> kelberry, try mIRC
[07:22] <dmstrdj> kelberry   KVIRC
[07:22] <[Screamo]> kelberry, lol there is no -good- irc client for windows
[07:22] <Mqueue> what's the command for memory cleanup ?
[07:23]  * l_o is searching free bnc a/c. Do any body have idea about it??
[07:24] <babrams> I never had to use this before to get a problem solved but couldnt find a solution that has worked so far online so any help in the right direction would be appreciated, I am running ubuntu 10.04 by the way and  firefox started timing out but pinging has 0% packet loss and chrome works i tried un-installing and reinstalling it but that didnt work any ideas of what i should try next?
[07:24] <[Screamo]> uhm
[07:24] <[Screamo]> just dont use FF
[07:24] <[Screamo]> >.>
[07:24] <newboon2age>  [Screamo] i guess kelberry could use pidgin on Windoze....
[07:25] <babrams> its my frineds computer and he loves ff and it has less compatibility issues than chrome
[07:25] <ross_> nomad77: ok how od you use the shields up thing?
[07:25] <[Screamo]> make sure FF is not in offline mode?
[07:25] <xorwhy> problem: i am particular about how this will work, and this is not working. solution: don't be particular. response: that's not helpful because im particular
[07:26] <babrams> how do i check that?
[07:26] <jook> I need some help with conky, but that channel is fully dead. Can anybody tell me why this works: "${fs_free_perc /media/sda1}%   ${fs_bar 6 /media/sda1}" but not this: "${fs_free_perc /media/sdb1}%   ${fs_bar 6 /media/sdb1}"
[07:27] <[Screamo]> babrams, open FF > file make sure work offline is not checked
[07:28] <Volkodav> trying to figure against what should I file a bug with the FV TouchCam N1. It is being configured by Xorg as a keyboard ??? with udev ignoring it's audio (mic) part. That gets the xkb applet to crash in xfce and audio part falling back to default mobo's
[07:28] <Sereph> /home/tyler/.setup17356: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory what am I supposed to do here?
[07:28] <babrams> its not checked
[07:29] <ross_> i just tried to check my com's security on shields up
[07:29] <ross_> and it's saying that one of my ports is operating is operating in full stealth mode
[07:30] <Volkodav> here is a relevant part from Xorg log http://pastie.org/1032206
[07:30] <kelberry> I absolutely hate mIRC.
[07:30] <ross_> is it possible that someone is secretly connecting to this computer steathily ? if so, how do I check the port's history
[07:32] <jook> I need some help with conky, but that channel is fully dead. Can anybody tell me why this works: "${fs_free_perc /media/sda1}%   ${fs_bar 6 /media/sda1}" but not this: "${fs_free_perc /media/sdb1}%   ${fs_bar 6 /media/sdb1}"
[07:33] <Volkodav> this is along with dmesg http://pastie.org/1032211
[07:33] <l_o> nobody helps here
[07:33] <l_o> is fake
[07:33] <newboon2age> kelberry: somebody suggested KVIRC and i thought of Pidgin
[07:33] <kelberry> Kay, i'm attempting pidgin
[07:34] <jook> I don't like pidgin's IRC interface on linux, but it's functional.
[07:34] <dmstrdj> i have one pc that i cannot get any distro to install on or live disc ,but anyway, i do like KVIRC
[07:34] <dmstrdj> when i have to use windows lol
[07:35] <newboon2age> jook: i'm using Konversation on Ubuntu and Kubuntu because i can figure it out.  I started playing with Pidgin and at some point i'll work with it some more.
[07:35] <bullgard4> The file »zorro.txt« exists on my computers 2 times: /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.32/Documentation/zorro.txt und /usr/share/doc/linux-doc/zorro.txt! Why?
[07:36] <bullgard4> Mqueue: You do not need in Ubuntu a command to clean up memory.
[07:36] <Blue1> off topic:  somethings, you don't want to know.  nwayno@Homer:/usr/lib64/caca$
[07:37] <robertzaccour> how do  i find out if i'm running 64 bit or 32? i think its 64 just wanna make sure
[07:37] <SmokeyD> hey people, where can I enable more /dev/loop* devices on startup? By default there are 7, but I want more. Is there any place where this is configured?
[07:38] <bullgard4> robertzaccour: uname -a
[07:38] <robertzaccour> bullgard4, ok thanks
[07:38]  * l_o is searching free bnc a/c. Do any body have idea about it??
[07:39] <robertzaccour> bulldog98, Linux ubuntu 2.6.35-6-generic #8-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 28 04:15:52 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:39] <robertzaccour>  64 bit?
[07:39] <wookienz> suggestions on a IM client that does skype as well?
[07:39] <robertzaccour> bullgard4, that was meant for you sorry
[07:39] <kang_> anybody has socks5 server knowlege here?
[07:39] <demism> Hi, I loaded the Kubuntu Live CD cause I wanted to copy the xorg.conf file, but I don't have it. How can I get it or create it based on the live cd's configuration?
[07:39] <bullgard4> robertzaccour: I beg your pardon?
[07:40] <newboon2age> l_o: could you please restate that explaining what you mean without abbreviations?  I don't know what you mean, maybe others don't either.
[07:40] <robertzaccour> bullgard4, is this 64 bit? Linux ubuntu 2.6.35-6-generic #8-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 28 04:15:52 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:40] <kang_> somebody help me. i almost cracy.  sorry for the bad english.    i build a sokcs5 server with 3proxy.   play world of warcraft with it.   but it will auto disconnect for play a  while.  no packet lost.  i use vpn.  it's no problem.  i already google a week. still dont' know what to do. T_T
[07:41] <kelberry_other> Okay Scremo
[07:41] <kelberry_other> I got it. :)
[07:41] <robertzaccour> am i running 32 bit or 64? Linux ubuntu 2.6.35-6-generic #8-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 28 04:15:52 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:41] <bullgard4> robertzaccour: Yes. Because with me (32-bit): '~$ uname -a; Linux T43 2.6.32-23-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jun 11 07:54:58 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux'.
[07:41] <robertzaccour> bullgard4, oh ok thanks
[07:41] <jook> I thought x86 was 32-bit, but it says 64 right after. That confuses me.
[07:42] <kelberry_other> Scremo, should I restart the computer?
[07:42] <bullgard4> jook: You thought wrong on "x86".
[07:42] <jook> I guess so.
[07:42] <l_o> newboon2age: i want to connect my irc from bnc that helps 24 hr online. But i cant find that in free account.many sides says free bnc free znc. so i'm asking
[07:43] <l_o> newboon2age: got me or not?? do anybody got me??
[07:44] <bullgard4> l_o: What does "bnc" stand for. Please re-word your question.
[07:44] <demism> Hi, I loaded the Kubuntu Live CD cause I wanted to copy the xorg.conf file, but I don't have it. How can I get it or create it based on the live cd's configuration?
[07:44] <newboon2age> bullgard4: thank you that's what i was thinking too
[07:44] <AdamB> I'm trying to get Portable Ubuntu however I can only find Portable Ubuntu Remix.  I have downloaded Portable Ubuntu Remix TRES and cannot run.  It locks up windows.
[07:45] <AdamB> any ideas?
[07:45] <bl4de> ciao a tutti!
[07:45] <newboon2age> demism: by default (at least on Ubuntu) you create your own xorg.conf since there isn't one by default.
[07:45] <l_o> i also dont konw acutatly...but it connect 24 hr online on irc network
[07:46] <newboon2age> AdamB: yes that is the latest.
[07:46] <newboon2age> AdamB: i only had a problem with it after my machine lost power unexpectedly.
[07:47] <bullgard4> The file »zorro.txt« exists on my computers 2 times: /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.32/Documentation/zorro.txt und /usr/share/doc/linux-doc/zorro.txt! Why?
[07:47] <nomad77> !it |bl4de
[07:47] <newboon2age> AdamB: then i had to reinstall. and everything was fine again.
[07:47] <Sereph> how can I get libgtk1.2 on lucid?
[07:47] <AdamB> would I have to change anything in the config directory
[07:48] <abhi_nav> is there any constraint of file type to set spalsh screen of grub2 and login screen?
[07:48] <newboon2age> AdamB: which config directory?  Did it ever boot up correctly or was it in trouble from the first time?  It was slow the first time it booted for me, then fine.
[07:49] <l_o> i'm shocked to know that nobody knows about bnc here
[07:49] <AdamB> newboon2age: when you say reinstall.  what do you mean?  just extract the files again?
[07:49] <AdamB> newboon2age: never made it by the splash screen
[07:49] <abhi_nav> !info bnc
[07:50] <newboon2age> AdamB: i just deleted the whole expanded directory and re-extracted it.
[07:50] <l_o> bnc also called shell
[07:50] <AdamB> k
[07:50] <newboon2age> AdamB: never ever?
[07:50] <l_o> !info shell
[07:50] <newboon2age> AdamB: never ever made it past the splash screen?
[07:51] <abhi_nav> !shell
[07:52] <newboon2age> AdamB: btw, Portable Ubuntu is basically Karmic Koala -- helps to know sometimes.
[07:52] <maxwellian> l_o: BNC is apparently a generic term for a kind of software.
[07:52] <Sylverin> Ah jeeze, if only I'd know about the terminal!
[07:53] <mtb_> salve
[07:53] <Sereph> how can I get libgtk1.2 on lucid?
[07:53] <maxwellian> l_o: I came on after your question, what is it?
[07:53] <abhi_nav> l_o, try #linux
[07:54] <l_o> maxwellian: i need free bnc account to connect my irc
[07:54] <sweetpi> i missed the question, but a bnc is an irc bouncer
[07:54] <newboon2age> AdamB: are you still there?
[07:54] <Sereph> l_o: you need somewhere to host it
[07:55] <maxwellian> l_o: That doesn't really have anything to do with Ubuntu specifically.
[07:55] <abhi_nav> anyone success to change grub2 splash screen?
[07:56] <maxwellian> l_o: Just search Google for "free bnc account"
[07:56] <l_o> i'm tired of that
[07:57] <Sereph> l_o: you are expecting something for free.
[07:57] <AdamB> newboon2age: yes still her just extracting
[07:57] <maxwellian> l_o: Again, what was your question?  I came on after you asked.
[07:57] <Sereph> maxwellian: he asked a couple times after you asked
[07:57] <l_o> Sereph: there are many poeple i met using free bnc
[07:57] <Firstgear_> amazing. really amazing
[07:58] <Sereph> l_o: ask them where they got it
[07:58] <newboon2age> abhi_nav: do you mean the screen you get when you have 'quiet splash'?  If so that's Plymouth, and yes i did change it before, but i'm not sure if i can remember how...
[07:58] <AdamB> newboon2age: and never past the splash screen. Windows just rebooted.
[07:58] <l_o> they didnt help me
[07:58] <l_o> :(
[07:58] <sweetpi> l_o: whats wrong with a cloak?
[07:59] <bullgard4> The file »zorro.txt« exists on my computers 2 times: /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.32/Documentation/zorro.txt und /usr/share/doc/linux-doc/zorro.txt! Why?
[07:59] <maxwellian> Sereph: If he's asking if any of us know of a good BNC account provider, I didn't get that before now.
[07:59] <abhi_nav> newboon2age, I dont know about 'quiet splash' I am talking about grub2 screen where we selecte boot into win or buntu etc
[07:59] <Sereph> maxwellian: ah, i love trying to get help in here...
[07:59] <Sereph> !ot
[07:59] <newboon2age> AdamB: i'm confused.  Windows just rebooted just now spontaneously while you were extracting?
[08:00] <newboon2age> abhi_nav: you mean the menu screen?
[08:00] <AdamB> newboon2age: after I launced portable_ubuntu.exe as administrator
[08:00] <maxwellian> Sereph: Good to know...? :)
[08:00] <abhi_nav> newboon2age, yes in that menu we select revoerry, memtest +86, bootin into win, boot into buntu, boot into fedora, boot into suese
[08:00] <abhi_nav> suse*
[08:00] <Sereph> maxwellian: hmm?
[08:00] <newboon2age> abhi_nav: and what do you want to change?
[08:01] <Sereph> maxwellian: im talking about everyone taliking about other things... like bncs...
[08:01] <abhi_nav> newboon2age, splash screen
[08:01] <maxwellian> Sereph: Oh, yes.
[08:01] <newboon2age> AdamB: are you talking about now after you extracted again or before?
[08:01] <Sereph> i just bought a game that works on linux.... and it wont work because i cant get gtk1.2...
[08:02] <nomad77> bullgard4: maybe its deprecated but google shows this http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/zorro.txt
[08:02] <newboon2age> abhi_nav: i'm confused, you want to change the menu so it comes up with different options? or is it a screen before the menu?  Cuz what comes after is Plymouth.
[08:02] <AdamB> newboon2age: before I'll try again here soon
[08:03] <abhi_nav> !grub2 | newboon2age
[08:03] <abhi_nav> newboon2age, see that search in that page for wallpaer or theme
[08:03] <maxwellian> Sereph: gtk 1.2?
[08:03] <Sereph> maxwellian: yes
[08:04] <maxwellian> !info libgtk
[08:04] <Sereph> !info libgtk2
[08:04] <Sereph> ..
[08:04] <maxwellian> Sereph: Heh. ;)
[08:04] <Sereph> !info libgtk2.0-dev
[08:05] <maxwellian> Sereph: So anyway, you're looking for an older version of GTK?
[08:05] <newboon2age> abhi_nav: so you mean the background for the menu?
[08:05] <Sereph> yep
[08:05] <ross_> after installing a software of any type, how do you locate its location
[08:05] <sweetpi> Sereph: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/libgtk1.2
[08:05] <abhi_nav> m back
[08:05] <ross_> i just install something i don't see it anywhere : (
[08:05] <newboon2age> abhi_nav: so you mean the background for the menu?
[08:06] <nomad77> Sereph: try apt-cache search libgtk
[08:06] <abhi_nav> newboon2age, yes
[08:06] <newboon2age> abhi_nav: did you try what it says there?
[08:06] <FullFlannelJacke> Where do python modules usually go on ubuntu?  If I created one, where's the proper place to put it?
[08:06] <abhi_nav> newboon2age, yes
[08:06] <Matt1> Has anyone got a windows media center remote to work on ubuntu?
[08:06] <newboon2age> abhi_nav: and what was the result?
[08:07] <abhi_nav> newboon2age, no image :(
[08:07] <Matt1> I installed lirc, but it is not detected
[08:07] <skramer_> hi, I want to connect to a server on internet via vnc but always get a "remote host closed connection" error
[08:07] <maxwellian> ross_: What did you install?
[08:07] <newboon2age> AdamB: have you used Ubuntu before, or is this your first try?
[08:07] <ross_> chkrootkit
[08:08] <ross_> and rootkit hutner
[08:08] <ranjan> hi all...anybody have used an IAXModem???
[08:08] <ross_> i want to use those software to check for rootkits in my system if there's any
[08:08] <abhi_nav> newboon2age, testing. wait
[08:08] <maxwellian> ross_: Try 'which chkrootkit'
[08:08] <newboon2age> abhi_nav: so it says "approximately line 10 of /etc/grub.d/05_debian_image"
[08:09] <ranjan> Is there any way to send fax without a fax modem??
[08:09] <AdamB> newboon2age: first try with ubuntu but have used freebsd before
[08:09] <Matt1> #MCE remote: I was under the impression that lirc would get the remote working.
[08:09] <indus> Matt1, it works
[08:10] <indus> Matt1, how are you checking to see if its detected or not
[08:10] <newboon2age> AdamB: one other option i should tell you about is a Wubi install.
[08:10] <AdamB> newboon2age:  I have an app that runs on linux that I want to use along side with another windows app.  I just dont want to have to dual boot the system or run linux all the time
[08:10] <abhi_nav> newboon2age, no success. i done this gksudo gedit /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme
[08:10] <abhi_nav>  and change the path to image but no luck. any suggestion?
[08:10] <newboon2age> AdamB: gotcha, well you're on the right path.
[08:11] <ross_> maxwellian: ok i found the file, but how do i use the chkrootkit???
[08:11] <iflema> Matt1 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LIRC
[08:11] <ross_> maxwellian: i installed it but how do I use it?
[08:11] <maxwellian> FullFlannelJacke: Check /usr/lib/python#.#/ or /usr/lib/pymodules/python#.#/
[08:11] <AdamB> newboon2age: Wubi install? I herd about the awile ago. Any recommended website to read up on it?
[08:12] <FullFlannelJacke> maxwellian: How about /usr/share/pyshared?
[08:12] <Smooch> hi
[08:12] <newboon2age> abhi_nav: well i haven't tried it but it says "approximately line 10 of /etc/grub.d/05_debian_image) and replace "/usr/share..." with the correct path and filename of the file you wish to use as the GRUB 2 background."
[08:12] <nomad77> FullFlannelJacke: usually in /usr/lib/python2.6 or whatever version / site-packages
[08:12] <nomorenick> nicks are taken.
[08:12] <abhi_nav> newboon2age, yes i change that only
[08:12] <Sereph> maxwellian: I installed it but still get the error libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:13] <FullFlannelJacke> nomad77: What if the module is compatible with > 2.4?  Put it in both?
[08:13] <maxwellian> FullFlannelJacke: What are you trying to do?  Install a module manually?
[08:13] <maxwellian> FullFlannelJacke: If you just made one, you probably don't need to put it in a system directory.
[08:13] <newboon2age> AdamB: for running Linux on Windows Portable Ubuntu or AndLinux are the two ways i've heard about and i've been playing with Portable Ubuntu successfully.  For wubi go to wubi-install.org
[08:13] <FullFlannelJacke> maxwellian: No package a .deb with a program i wrote
[08:13] <maxwellian> FullFlannelJacke: Okay, I think there are specific docs about that, hold on...
[08:13] <nomad77> FullFlannelJacke: FullFlannelJacke most progs/modules have installers. if only 2.4 compat i'd go with 2.4
[08:14] <newboon2age> AdamB: wubi will NOT require partitioning or be a real dual boot, but it looks like it.
[08:14] <nomad77> FullFlannelJacke: but i'm no python expert
[08:14] <FullFlannelJacke> nomad77: It's compatible with greater than 2.4.  Not just 2.4
[08:14] <wookienz> I appear to have a fakeraid setup from the mobo - does my install require specific drivers from that chipset to be able to re the raid array?
[08:15] <tobago> how to update the package database, locate is based on?
[08:15] <maxwellian> FullFlannelJacke: Look through this http://amitksaha.wordpress.com/2010/01/02/building-a-ubuntu-deb-package-for-a-python-module/
[08:15] <nomad77> FullFlannelJacke: then both s.b. safe i'd think. i know filesystem locations,but i'm no programmer
[08:15] <abhi_nav> newboon2age, i gave up. :(
[08:15] <newboon2age> AdamB: so it will boot to one or the other.  It puts an entry in the Windoze bootloader to give the choice of either Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Mythbuntu or whichever one you choose.
[08:15] <newboon2age> abhi_nav: why don't you paste the line here so we can see if there are any errors you might have overlooked?
[08:16] <maxwellian> tobago: I think it's just 'updatedb'.  May need to run as root.
[08:16] <abhi_nav> newboon2age, now i logged into my standard account.
[08:16] <Yossi> my screen occationally (like just now) gets garbled, and then ends up switching between all black and black and white bars alternating across the top of the screen
[08:17] <Yossi> it flashing back and forth now
[08:17] <Yossi> i can ssh into it
[08:17] <nomorenick> can anyone pm me the best dock for karmic with a bad cpu and low ram?
[08:17] <Yossi> is there a way to recover it without forcing a reboot?
[08:17] <[Screamo]> advat window navigator?
[08:17] <[Screamo]> er
[08:17] <newboon2age> abhi_nav: i'll have to try adding wallpaper, but i haven't tried it yet, so all i can thing of is to see if there is some kind of syntax error.
[08:18] <[Screamo]> *avant
[08:18] <nomorenick> well i tried awn but...
[08:18] <nomorenick> i need a shiny dock without compiz effects.
[08:18] <nomorenick> if i put on effects, it lowers my framerate
[08:18] <abhi_nav> newboon2age, is there any image type constraint? like only use .png etc?
[08:18] <Oer> all docks need compiz
[08:18] <nomorenick> am i stuck with 'panel'?
[08:18] <nomorenick> </e
[08:18] <nomorenick> thanks.
[08:18] <abhi_nav> nomorenick, i use cairo dock and  i like it. dont know about its cpu and ram uses.
[08:18] <newboon2age> abhi_nav: great question.  don't know but that might be something to check.
[08:18] <abhi_nav> newboon2age, hhmm
[08:19] <nomorenick> now i just need program(apps) suggestion :/
[08:19] <soreau> nomorenick: Try cairo-dock in cairo mode, by starting it with -c (cairo-dock -c)
[08:19] <abhi_nav> nomorenick, ^^
[08:19] <[Screamo]> cairo dock is horrible for a lsow comp
[08:19] <nomorenick> k will do.
[08:19] <ross_> nevermind
[08:19] <ross_> how do you open up a log file using the terminal?
[08:19] <ross_> what is the command ?
[08:19] <maxwellian> ross_: Just run 'sudo chkrootkit'
[08:19] <nomorenick> abhi_nav you helped me yesterday, thanks.
[08:19] <maxwellian> ross_: Ahhh, too slow, sorry. :)
[08:19] <nomorenick> i was student then i think lol
[08:19] <abhi_nav> nomorenick, I? yesterday? for what?
[08:20] <ross_> yes i did it already : D
[08:20] <newboon2age> abhi_nav: on that page it seems to indicate tga could possibly work also.
[08:20] <ross_> maxwellian: but you can tell me how to open up a log file using the terminal : D - it's not too late
[08:20] <skramer_> do I need to prepare anything in my side? or is it a problem on the vnc server side?
[08:20] <maxwellian> ross_: Oh, thanks goodness. ;)
[08:20] <abhi_nav> newboon2age, what is 'tga'?
[08:20] <nomorenick> it was help with... something that was bothering me lol i can't exactly remember...
[08:20] <maxwellian> ross_: Which logfile?
[08:20] <elnur> Have anyone solved the problem with too low sound?
[08:20] <ross_> /var/log/rkhunter.org
[08:21] <nomorenick> probably my video card...
[08:21] <nomorenick> or...
[08:21] <maxwellian> ross_: Okay, type 'sudo less /var/log/rkhunter.org'
[08:21] <ross_> i can open it the hard way, but how do you open it using the terminal
[08:21] <ross_> ok
[08:21] <abhi_nav> nomorenick, what was your nick yesterday?
[08:21] <nomorenick> student
[08:21] <newboon2age> abhi_nav: it also says "Add the ability use JPEG files as splash images. At this time, only 8-bit JPEG images will display correctly."
[08:21] <maxwellian> ross_: less is a pager which will show you one screen at a time of a log.
[08:21] <ross_> you mean .log?
[08:21] <abhi_nav> nomorenick, I see
[08:21] <nomorenick> i remember now you helped me with docky settings
[08:21] <nomorenick> i needed to auto hide it
[08:21] <nomorenick> :p
[08:21] <abhi_nav> newboon2age, hmm
[08:21] <nomorenick> docky = fail
[08:21] <maxwellian> ross_: Yes, sorry, just copied what you wrote. :P
[08:22] <nomorenick> i need to use a dock with out compiz effects
[08:22] <newboon2age> abhi_nav: and "Note that images need to be in RGB color format to be displayed, rather than indexed."
[08:22] <nomorenick> as my netbook can't handle effects too wel
[08:22] <abhi_nav> nomorenick, try cairo with -c option
[08:22] <nomorenick> well*
[08:22] <nomorenick> i will. thanks.
[08:22] <abhi_nav> newboon2age, now from where shoudl i produce that rgb format image?
[08:22] <newboon2age> abhi_nav: but also that you can "Add a user-owned directory in which GRUB 2 will search for available splash images."
[08:22] <ross_> maxwellian: man I haven't touched windows in a week and I am proud
[08:22] <maxwellian> ross_: Also, often you only want to see the most recent additions to the log, like if something just happened.  For that it's usually easier to 'sudo tail what.log'
[08:22] <newboon2age> abhi_nav: which tells me it doesn't know about the directory by default.
[08:22] <abhi_nav> newboon2age, ok. I gave up. leave it. :'(
[08:23] <maxwellian> ross_: Cool, glad you're having some success!
[08:23] <ross_> maxwellian: the only thing that i dont' like is there's no itunes
[08:23] <nomorenick> abhi_nav i start it in term with cairo-dock -c command?
[08:23] <leven> can i run memtest from a live usb-stick with 10.04?
[08:23] <ross_> maxwellian: rhythmbox just doesn't cut it for me
[08:23] <newboon2age> abhi_nav: you could use Gimp.  I'm pretty sure that produces .png rgb images
[08:23] <leven> diddnt find the option
[08:24] <jan-pieter> I have just installed ubuntu to a USB stick but now / gets mounted as read-only. And also Gnome of X doesn't want to start if I'm not in recovery mode (I assume this will be solved if the drive gets mounted as read/write). Can anyone help me solve this?
[08:24] <abhi_nav> nomorenick, in startup applications you have to add it so it wll start automatically when you start computer. there under command write cairo-dock -c
[08:24] <ross_> how do you exit the sudo bash command?
[08:24] <newboon2age> abhi_nav: sometime i'll try it cuz i dislike the black background.
[08:24] <maxwellian> ross_: I'm sure you're not alone. :P  I avoid iTunes for the same reason I use Ubuntu, I hate not having control over my user experience.
[08:24] <maxwellian> ross_: Just type 'exit'
[08:25] <abhi_nav> newboon2age, hmm. its so much time consuming. I gave up
[08:25] <nomorenick> will it start automatically with -c settings?
[08:25] <nomorenick> oh ok
[08:25] <nomorenick> thanks
[08:25] <leven> can i run memtest from a live usb-stick with 10.04? in that case where do i find it?
[08:25] <nomorenick> omg cairo is so pretty!!!
[08:25] <ross_> maxwellian: do you recommend any other softwares similar to itunes that is usable in linux?
[08:25] <maxwellian> ross_: Proprietary hardware which only works with proprietary software sucks the big one.
[08:25] <newboon2age> abhi_nav: yeah, it could be something as simple as a path being wrong or in a directory that Grub2 doesn't know about.
[08:25] <leven> maxwellian: yepp
[08:25] <nomorenick> it definately works better than awn and docky cairo is a keeper!
[08:26] <abhi_nav> ok
[08:26] <leven> has noone ran memtest from a live 10.04?
[08:27] <newboon2age> abhi_nav: also see this "The following shows the addition of a user's own splash directory and added JPEG support:"
[08:27] <leven> come on now.. they can't have removed it?
[08:27] <newboon2age> abhi_nav: for i in {/boot/grub,/usr/share/images/grub,/home/drs/mysplash}/moreblue-orbit-grub.{png,tga,jpg,jpeg} ; do
[08:27] <abhi_nav> newboon2age, I know. I am not interested in it now. Leave it. I am not interested.
[08:27] <maxwellian> ross_: Well I guess I should have mentioned another reason I don't use iTunes: I don't have enough music to bother with a music manager. :)
[08:28] <ross_> maxwellian: man I have like 60 gbs of music
[08:28]  * maxwellian chokes
[08:29] <ross_> maxwellian: how do you "choke" on here??
[08:29] <maxwellian> ross_: Check out this page: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/itunes
[08:29] <Sereph> I have libgtk 1.2 and 1.2-dev installed but this app still cant see it... any idea what i am doing wrong
[08:29] <maxwellian> ross_: That's an IRC thing, just '/me does something'
[08:30] <maxwellian> Sereph: Where was it installed?
[08:30] <maxwellian> Sereph: And where is the app looking? :)
[08:30]  * ross_ screams 
[08:30] <newboon2age> abhi_nav: ok, just one more point.  if you change anything in /etc/grub.d and you MUST run 'sudo update-grub' or nothing will change.
[08:30] <ross_> that is so cool
[08:31] <abhi_nav> newboon2age, this is statement or question? :p
[08:31] <maxwellian> ross_: Heh. :)
[08:31]  * abhi_nav does something
[08:31] <abhi_nav> ??
[08:31] <Sereph> maxwellian: its not installed its a .sh script that is supposed to install it
[08:32] <newboon2age> abhi_nav:  a statement.  I had that problem when i was changing my grub2 options before...  i forgot to run that command and nothing changed till i did.
[08:32] <ross_> maxwellian: what's the command for listing the IP address for the computer?
[08:32] <maxwellian> Sereph: Usually installing a package installs the software...?
[08:32] <abhi_nav> newboon2age, so after doing update-grub only changes will take effect?
[08:33] <maxwellian> ross_: That depends, are you using a router?
[08:33] <MaRk-I> ross_: ifconfig
[08:33] <ross_> maxwellian: yes
[08:33] <abhi_nav> newboon2age, now testing. wait
[08:33] <newboon2age> abhi_nav: any time you make a change to /etc/grub.d you MUST run 'sudo update-grub' or no change will take effect.
[08:33] <ross_> maxwellian: so what is it
[08:33] <jan-pieter> I installed ubuntu to a usb stick but it gets mounted as read-only. Can anyone help me change it to read/write ?
[08:33] <maxwellian> ross_: As far as I know, you can't see your external address from inside the network.
[08:34] <Sereph> maxwellian: its a commertial game that runs on linux... it has no package... just a sh script
[08:34] <indus> Matt1, hi
[08:34] <maxwellian> ross_: ifconfig (thanks MaRk-I) will tell you your local IP address, but if you're using a router, it's usually using NAT to communicate with the Internet.
[08:34] <ross_> maxwellian: ok
[08:35] <maxwellian> ross_: So are you looking to find out your IP as the Internet sees you?
[08:35] <maxwellian> ross_: Or just the address of your machine locally?
[08:35] <ross_> maxwellian: nevermind i figured it out
[08:35] <maxwellian> ross_: What did you do? :)
[08:35] <ross_> maxwellian: that reverse DNS thing is dangerous
[08:36] <ross_> maxwellian: is there a way to block the reverse DNS?
[08:36] <maxwellian> ross_: Which reverse DNS?
[08:36] <maxwellian> ross_: In what context?
[08:36] <newboon2age> jan-pieter: which tool did you use to create the usb pen drive?
[08:37] <maxwellian> Sereph: And did you run the install script?
[08:37] <oasa> newboon2age :  you mean to create start up disk ?
[08:37] <Sereph> maxwellian: yes and it gave that error
[08:37] <ross_> maxwellian: i was just reading how people can reverse DNS you and find your ip that's assigned by your ISP, and I read how they can geographically tract people
[08:38] <newboon2age> oasa: yes, jan-pieter?
[08:38] <ross_> maxwellian: which is pretty scary
[08:38] <llutz> ross_: thats how the internet works, nothing scary at all
[08:39] <ross_> k
[08:39] <oasa> newoborn2age : You can use unetboot. Great tool
[08:39] <jan-pieter> newboon2age: I just installed it to the usb drive
[08:39] <ross_> i just finished using nmap to check my laptop, and the result said that all my ports are filtered, is that good?
[08:39] <llutz> ross_: if you don't like it, consider using services like TOR
[08:39] <Dulak> If that scares you, I'd hate to see you after you find out what the NSA is doing.
[08:39] <newboon2age> oasa: yes, that one's good.
[08:39] <lunavorax> Hello everyone !
[08:40] <oasa> newboon2age: Sorry. I thought its you who needs help.
[08:40] <oasa> hi lunavorax
[08:40] <lunavorax> :)
[08:40] <rafael> Hello how do i disable the nouveau module/driver?
[08:40] <newboon2age> jan-pieter: so you didn't use unetbootin or USB Creator, you just did an install?
[08:40] <newboon2age> oasa: no prob. :)
[08:40] <oasa> y:D
[08:40] <maxwellian> Sereph: Can you cd to where the install script is and type 'grep libgtk install.sh', replacing install.sh with the name of the script?
[08:40] <jan-pieter> newboon2age: I now saw the it remount the root partition as read-only
[08:40] <jan-pieter> I just a normal install
[08:41] <lunavorax> I don't know what fs to choose for a hard drive i'll use only for storage
[08:41] <ross_> llutz: thanks man that is so cool i will check it out - are you speaking from experience? have you used tor before?
[08:41] <oasa> lunavorax : Which all operating system do you mingle with ?
[08:41] <lunavorax> I only use ubuntu 10.04 (64bits)
[08:41] <newboon2age> jan-pieter: oh, that's interesting.  hmm....
[08:42] <rafael> lunavorax; i think you want fat
[08:42] <oasa> lunavorax : If you dont want to use your hard drive with any other os then I would always recommend you to use ext3 or ext4
[08:42] <newboon2age> jan-pieter: i thought i had the answer if you'd used one of the other programs.  Tell me did you unplug your HD before you did the install?
[08:42] <lunavorax> rafael ? fat ? no way
[08:42] <oasa> lunavorax : If you are using Windows OS,Mac FAT32 is recommended.
[08:42] <lunavorax> I'm storing big files over 4go
[08:42] <lunavorax> Ok
[08:42] <lunavorax> so that'll be ext4
[08:43] <oasa> :) Lunavorax
[08:43] <oasa> It would be better if you use ext3.
[08:43] <nomorenick> aw man i was messing with the settings in cairo but nothing seems to have changed.
[08:43] <jan-pieter> newboon2age: I plugged in my usb stick in the laptop and installed it to that usb stick. I kept everything plugged in
[08:43] <newboon2age> jan-pieter: i tried to do it that way but i didn't unplug my HD and i ended up having to go a Grub2 reinstall, cuz when i unplugged the USB stick it wouldn't boot right.
[08:43] <lunavorax> oasa oh ok that'll be ext3 then
[08:44] <lunavorax> oasa: but why ?
[08:44] <scar_> does there exists any alpha/daily built live iso's that I can use instead of installing xorg-edgers on my current system?
[08:44] <nomorenick> ahbi_nav, do you know how to make cairo transparent? not the dock, but the icon background, at the moment it's black and annoying when i go over an icon
[08:44] <newboon2age> jan-pieter: at the time it freaked me out because i hadn't dealt with Grub2 before, but it turned out to be not too big of a deal.
[08:44] <oasa> Lunavorax : performance wise,  ext4 have proved much superior. But compatibility wise.
[08:44] <llutz> ross_: i use tor sometimes and i'm supporting tor with operating a tor middle-node, sharing some bandwidth to the network
[08:44] <GHH> which is good software to play DVD and CD movie and support any video formate please?
[08:44] <scar_> sorry ^ that was phrased badly
[08:44] <nomorenick> i would also like to know how to autohide the dock.
[08:44] <lunavorax> ok i understand oasa
[08:44] <oasa> GHH : Totem is good otherwise you can use VLC
[08:45] <lunavorax> So ext3, ok
[08:45] <nomorenick> anyone else is also welcome to help me :/
[08:45] <rautamiekka> All in all, is there any difference between using the dual quotes <"> and single quotes <'>, in commands ? During my Python scripting yesterday night I issued same del and mkdir commands with folder and file names and they both acted identically by what I see.
[08:45] <lunavorax> Thank you all very much ! ;)
[08:45] <newboon2age> jan-pieter: hey, its not a simple thing like do you have a switch on the USB pen drive that allows you to make it read only?
[08:45] <jan-pieter> newboon2age: It boot's fine in recovery-mode and grub does everything it should do. (BTW I installed grub to my USB so the bootloader of my HD is still fine)
[08:45] <lunavorax> See you
[08:45] <oasa> nomorenick : Whats your problem ?
[08:45] <Dulak> GHH: vlc or gmplayer
[08:45] <oasa> see you lunavorax
[08:45] <jan-pieter> newboon2age: There is now switch
[08:45] <DexterLB> hrllo
[08:45] <DexterLB> hello*
[08:45] <nomorenick> no one? oh well :/
[08:45] <newboon2age> jan-pieter: no switch.  That'd be too easy i suppose. :)
[08:46] <oasa> Hello DexterLB
[08:46] <maxwellian> rautamiekka: Do you mean what's the difference to Python?
[08:46] <oasa> nomorenick : Whats your problem ?
[08:46] <GHH> vlc not support many type of formate such as dat file
[08:46] <maxwellian> rautamiekka: Or to the shell?
[08:46] <DexterLB> I'm currently using lucid on this PC.
[08:46] <DexterLB> I also have a server
[08:46] <oasa> Thats nice DexterLB :D
[08:46] <DexterLB> but I'm forced to have windoze there
[08:46] <rautamiekka> maxwell: To the shell. I came to this question as side-testing.
[08:47] <DexterLB> so I have a coLinux VM on the server
[08:47] <jan-pieter> newboon2age: I just checked the disk with disk-utility on my desktop and it says the disk is fine
[08:47] <DexterLB> and I run all my server stuff - apache, pptp, znc etc on the VM
[08:47] <oasa> okay
[08:47] <DexterLB> but it's jaunty and I need an upgrade
[08:47] <GHH> oasa, is it support any type of video formate?
[08:47] <newboon2age> jan-pieter: maybe is it a problem with permissions?
[08:47] <oasa> GHH : yes. Almost all. :D
[08:48] <nomorenick> my problem is that i want to autohide cairo-dock but i dont know how to
[08:48] <nomorenick> also i would like to make the icon background transparent, not the dock.
[08:48] <nomorenick> i want to keep the dock how it is, but whenever i go over an icon the icon background turns black
[08:48] <DexterLB> so, do you think coLinux is the best solution or there is a better virtualization software?
[08:48] <GHH> oasa, then fine
[08:48] <jan-pieter> newboon2age: If I boot in recovery-mode there is a message like: Error something. Remounting as read-only.
[08:48] <GHH> oasa, what you think about gmplayer?
[08:48] <Dulak> GHH: no video player plays every format, I use mplayer and vlc and use whichever works
[08:49] <maxwellian> rautamiekka: I suppose it could be different from shell to shell, but the default Ubuntu shell is bash.
[08:49] <rautamiekka> DexterLB: I was recommended to use Xen if I ever were to try VMing.
[08:49] <deusr> hi
[08:49] <rautamiekka> !hi | deusr
[08:50] <bastidrazor> nomorenick: you may need to run cairo-dock with -c option... that means no OpenGL .. i have to do that with mine. quit cairo-dock then in a terminal type: cairo-dock -c & disown  .. also hiding it is easy to do.
[08:50] <oasa> Dexterlb : I think CoLinux is really good. And yeah Xen is also good.
[08:50] <deusr> someone help me?  http://pastebin.com/3YpiwsiB
[08:50] <GHH> Dulak, some time vlc give me error. But no problem to play mpeg file
[08:50] <newboon2age> jan-pieter: you lost me.  why reboot in recovery mode?
[08:50] <maxwellian> rautamiekka: And to Bash, double quotes interpolate variables, single quotes don't.
[08:50] <deusr> I am not able to load the update
[08:50] <Dulak> GHH: yeah welcome to the world of 10,000 video codecs
[08:51] <maxwellian> Dulak: Heh. :)
[08:51] <deusr> rautamiekka: help me?
[08:51] <rautamiekka> deusr: What's the content of "/etc/apt/sources.list" ? Also have you tried other Repository Server ?
[08:51] <deusr> rautamiekka: http://pastebin.com/3YpiwsiB
[08:51] <deusr> one monnent
[08:51] <GHH> Dulak, video codecs?
[08:52] <ross_> how do you configure the log in screen? I currently have my login screen configured for KDE, but i want to change it
[08:52] <ross_> it's a KDE login screen, and I want to change it back to gnome
[08:52] <jan-pieter> newboon2age: because I get a black screen when gnome (or X, I'm not sure) starts in normal mode
[08:52] <maxwellian> ross_: You're running Ubuntu, but you wanted to try the KDE login screen, so you installed it?
[08:52] <madrid> hi i need the solution for  gnomenu in jaunty ubuntu:  [Bug 507888] Re: W: Error de GPG: http://ppa .launchpad.net jaunty Release Las firmas siguientes no se pudieron verificar porque su llave pública no est á disponible: NO_PUBKEY F45E32D195B47D2A
[08:53] <rautamiekka> maxwellian: Interpolate, as in mark the starting and ending points for variables ?
[08:53] <deusr> rautamiekka: http://pastebin.com/pbqyp25e
[08:53] <newboon2age> jan-pieter: and did this only start after the install to usb pen drive?
[08:53] <[diablo]> good morning all... heres a question for you... I would like to have one of my virtual servers have installed with *all* the documentation to all packages (the /usr/share/doc/) , so I have a central reference point... anyone know how this can be done please?
[08:53] <Dulak> GHH: video formats are encoded/decoded from thier format using a codec, like a driver for video formats.  There are thousands of them and there are issues because so many are not open and free
[08:53] <MaRk-I> deusr: change to different repo servers
[08:53] <jan-pieter> newboon2age: And If I go in recovery-mode and login from the shell, and then use "startx" then X fails because It can't write to the disk. (It booted perfectly from the live cd)
[08:53] <rautamiekka> deusr: The list is correct, so it is more likely the Repo Server.
[08:54] <ross_> maxwellian: i installed the KDE desktop environment along with xefe to check out the user ability and the feel of them
[08:54] <maxwellian> rautamiekka: Interpolate, as in replace the variable name with the variable value.
[08:54] <rautamiekka> maxwellian: Ah, gotcha.
[08:54] <ross_> maxwellian: but now when the computer boots up
[08:54] <GHH> Dulak, you mean , i need to install  video codecs?
[08:54] <ross_> maxwellian: the login environment is KDE, but i want to change it back to gnome login env. - the way it used to be , how do i do it?
[08:54] <Dulak> GHH: windows covers it all up so you don't know just how crazy complicated video is.  Linux is getting there but still issues
[08:54] <oasa> Dulak. Yes
[08:55] <oasa> sorry GHH YES
[08:55] <madrid> i need the parameters of console for to have a solution.
[08:55] <deusr> MaRk-I: rautamiekka, how do I change the repository?
[08:56] <Dulak> GHH: yup  There is a big package of codecs you can d/l from the medibuntu repo. but they are mainly for mplayer
[08:56] <rautamiekka> deusr: Just replace the "br." with like "fi." or simply leave it out totally and it uses the Master Repo Server.
[08:56] <GHH> oasa, what is the package name to install (apt-get)?
[08:56] <MaRk-I> deusr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[08:56] <newboon2age> jan-pieter: and did this only start after the install to usb pen drive?
[08:56] <deusr> ok!!
[08:56] <bastidrazor> GHH: ubuntu-restricted-extras normally pulls all codecs needed
[08:56] <elnur> Have anyone solved the problem with too low sound?
[08:57] <maxwellian> ross_: Try running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm'
[08:57] <jan-pieter> newboon2age: What do you mean?
[08:58] <bastidrazor> deusr: System > Administration > Software Sources .. then change the server or let it pick the fastest for you.
[08:58] <ross_> doesn't work lol
[08:58] <newboon2age> jan-pieter: on this computer was it ever booting Ubuntu from the HD?
[08:58] <ross_> it still gives me the KDE login screen
[08:58] <deusr> bastidrazor: ;) thanks!!
[08:59] <bastidrazor> deusr: you're welcome.
[08:59] <maxwellian> ross_: Hmmm...at the login screen do you see a way to Select Session...
[08:59] <meowbuntu> !nvida
[08:59] <oasa> ross_ Change it from session
[08:59] <meowbuntu> !hef a'
[08:59] <robertzaccour> i accidently deleted the bottom panel. how do i restore it?
[08:59] <madrid> i only need the console parameters .... hi i need the solution for  gnomenu in jaunty ubuntu:  [Bug 507888] Re: W: Error de GPG: http://ppa .launchpad.net jaunty Release Las firmas siguientes no se pudieron verificar porque su llave pública no est á disponible: NO_PUBKEY F45E32D195B47D2A
[09:00] <jan-pieter> In that computer only vista is installed
[09:00] <oasa> or else ross_ go to System - > Administrator -> LoginScreen and change session from there
[09:00] <meowbuntu> hey whats is ubottu comand for nvida cards sites
[09:00] <jan-pieter> newboon2age: Only vista is installed on that computer. I never booted ubuntu from the HD
[09:00] <llutz> !nvidia
[09:00] <bastidrazor> !nvidia > meowbuntu
[09:01]  * rautamiekka goes away ->
[09:01] <deusr> I will sleep here in Brazil is 5 am :D
[09:01] <deusr> by
[09:01] <MaRk-I> madrid: try adding the key: gpg --export --armor F45E32D195B47D2A | sudo apt-key add -
[09:02] <newboon2age> jan-pieter: I'm thinking that if it was never booting Ubuntu from the HD -- you had only tried the LiveCD and then did the install to the pen drive that you might be running into a Grub2 problem that would require running the grub-reinstall command (its something like that). Either that or maybe the live CD has a video driver installed that didn't get installed during the install to the pen drive.
[09:02] <kraut> moin
[09:02]  * GHH thanks oasa and Dulak 
[09:02] <ross_> oasa: it's giving me this window
[09:02] <robertzaccour> maybe reinstalling Ubuntu will be faster
[09:02] <ross_> oasa: but i can't unlock it...
[09:02] <oasa> Welcome GHH
[09:02] <oasa> ross_ Press unlock and give the password
[09:03] <ross_> i won't let me unlock it
[09:03] <ross_> i clicked it
[09:03] <oasa> What error is it giving ? ross_ ?
[09:03] <madrid> mark  can i copy all the parameters without changing anything?
[09:03] <ross_> ...?
[09:03] <newboon2age> jan-pieter: so the read-only phenomenon sounds like that is just a side-effect of booting to recovery mode.  In a way then that is not the real issue.  One thing you can do to alter things on the pen drive though is to boot off the liveCD and then edit whatever, and then try rebooting from the pen drive.  repeat until fixed.
[09:03] <ross_> no error, i just won't let me do it
[09:04] <GHH> oasa, Can give me some idea about sendmail?
[09:04] <MaRk-I> madrid: yes just remember there's a dash at the end of the line
[09:04] <Dulak> robertzaccour: go to the top panel, right click, choose "new panel" and then drag the new panel to the bottom
[09:04] <erry> I have 2 ubuntu computers: errietta-laptop and errietta-desktop. When pinging errietta-laptop from errietta-desktop, i get an answer back from errietta-desktop. I can access -laptop fine from its lan ip and i can ping other network devices just fine. Any ideas?
[09:04] <opij> what's the difference between the official Fluxbuntu release and just installing fluxwm on ubuntu?
[09:04] <bastidrazor> !resetpanels
[09:04] <jan-pieter> newboon2age: Well If I'm in recovery-mode as root I can start gnome with startx But If I'm not root then gnome hangs
[09:04] <GHH> oasa, I need to configure it only for outgoing(i mean to say that just i want to send mail)
[09:04] <oasa> !sendmail
[09:04] <MaRk-I> madrid: just in case check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu and read how to add keys
[09:05] <vlt> erry: Doesn't soudn like a problem to me
[09:05] <vlt> *sound
[09:05] <ross_> damn it what's wrong with this thing?
[09:05] <newboon2age> jan-pieter: but as you say, when booting in recovery mode you're always stuck in read-only mode, correct?
[09:05] <oasa> GHH : Where do you face problem ?
[09:05] <oasa> ross_ did you try CUI method ?
[09:05] <ross_> how?
[09:05] <erry> vlt, im pinging -laptop and -desktop answers
[09:05] <madrid> a dash
[09:05] <vlt> erry: Aah, I see
[09:05] <erry> vlt, isnt -laptop supposed to answer?
[09:05] <erry> :p
[09:05] <ross_> sud dpkg-reconfigure gdm? didn't work either
[09:06] <ross_> sudo*
[09:06] <vlt> erry: What does `ifconfig` say on each machine?
[09:06] <MaRk-I> ross_: uninstall kdm and install gdm
[09:06] <erry> vlt, 1 secv
[09:06] <madrid> sorry was a error
[09:06] <erry> vlt, 1 sec
[09:06] <maxwellian> MaRk-I: Seems drastic?
[09:06] <GHH> oasa, ISP did not give us facility to use SMTP and Pop3 .
[09:06] <ross_> mark-I : no i can choose the desktop environment i want, but it's just the login screen that's locked onto KDE login screen and I want to change it back
[09:07] <MaRk-I> maxwellian: cant have kdm and gdm either or
[09:07] <oasa> ross_
[09:07] <opij> what's the difference between the official Fluxbuntu release and just installing fluxwm on ubuntu?
[09:07] <oasa> ross_ try gnome-session
[09:07] <maxwellian> MaRk-I: Sure you can.
[09:07] <erry> http://pastebin.com/i2k5ChHa
[09:07] <oasa> ross_
[09:07] <GHH> oasa, and dynamic. And what to do only for send a mail?
[09:07] <erry> vlt, http://pastebin.com/i2k5ChHa
[09:07] <oasa> ross_ try running gdmsetup by sudo rights
[09:07] <MaRk-I> maxwellian: ok
[09:07] <jan-pieter> newboon2age: That's what I thought. Apparently not because I can edit files :s sorry for that. But I just discovered that gnome sometimes hangs as root as well
[09:07] <oasa> ross_ in terminal type gksudo gdmsetup
[09:07] <newboon2age> jan-pieter: so i would try 1) figuring out whether its a video drivers problem or a Grub2 problem, 2) boot w/ LiveCD and edit whichever configuration file is appropriate, and 3) reboot w/ pen drive 4) repeat till fixed.
[09:08] <leven> can i run memtest from a live usb-stick with 10.04? in that case where do i find it?
[09:08] <adamr41> I'm thinking i'm going to dual boot my netbook with Windows XP and some form of ubuntu. I'm kind of torn between doing a NR, or going with Xubuntu, which seems to be better equipped for low-spec machines.What would you suggest?
[09:08] <oasa> GHH  I think since ISP have blocked, I think you need more professional assistance go to #sendmail
[09:08] <ross_> ok
[09:08] <newboon2age> jan-pieter: unfortunately i have to head off to sleep now, but i hope that will get you started and maybe someone else here can help you too. :)
[09:08] <oasa> ross_ did that work ?
[09:08] <vlt> erry: What happens when you run `ping 192.168.1.72` on -desktop?
[09:08] <erry> vlt, works fine
[09:09] <ross_> it says on the terminal - failed to unlock : the name org.gnome.displaymanager was not provided by any .service files
[09:09] <oasa> vlt : it will get pinged. If someone is listening :P
[09:09] <erry> vlt, the problem is when pinging its name
[09:09] <ross_> what does that mean?
[09:09] <Dulak> leven: hold down shift while booting and it should have the memtest option in the grub menu that comes up
[09:09] <kelberry_> :)
[09:09] <GHH> oasa, ok
[09:09] <vlt> erry: That's not a ping problem then. It's a resolving issue
[09:09] <WXZ> if I got a file selected
[09:10] <oasa> Sorry GHH. I am afraid  I very little about sendmail :(
[09:10] <WXZ> is there anyway I could get the file name and path in terminal
[09:10] <erry> vlt, ok, and why does that occur?
[09:10] <WXZ> in a shell script
[09:10] <vlt> erry: What exactly did you do?
[09:10] <jan-pieter> newboon2age: thanks :p
[09:10] <erry> vlt, hh?
[09:10] <ross_> oasa: how to fix...?
[09:10] <llutz> GHH: look for ssmtp, easy to use
[09:10] <ross_> failed to unlock : the name org.gnome.displaymanager was not provided by any .service files
[09:10] <jan-pieter> can anyone help me with installing drivers from the command line in recovery mode?
[09:10] <newboon2age> jan-pieter: your welcome, have a good day and hope Ubuntu is a great experience for you!
[09:11] <erry> vlt, what do you mean?
[09:11] <vlt> erry: You said there was a problem when pinging, but it isn't. So what did you do, what did you expect and what did you get?
[09:11] <Dulak> WXZ: pwd should show the current working directory not sure what filename you are looking for
[09:11] <jan-pieter> newboon2age: I've been using ubuntu for a year now and it's great most of the time :p
[09:11] <erry> vlt, im pinging errietta-laptop and i expect an answer from errietta-laptop not errietta-desktop
[09:11] <GHH> llutz, i am also little about sendmail... where i have to look?
[09:11] <erry> i cant ssh to it cause it goes back to errietta-desktop
[09:11] <erry> i have to get its ip each time
[09:12] <WXZ> the filename of the currently selected file Dulak
[09:12] <vlt> erry: `host errietta-laptop`
[09:13] <WXZ> Dulak: the file I click on
[09:13] <erry> errietta@errietta-desktop:~$ host errietta-laptop
[09:13] <erry> errietta-laptop.lan has address 192.168.1.71
[09:13] <erry> Host errietta-laptop.lan not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
[09:13] <erry> D:
[09:13] <Dulak> WXZ: the selected file in a script?  I don't understand your question
[09:13] <FloodBot3> erry: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:13] <llutz> GHH: not sendmail, ssmtp is a simple mail-forwarder if you just need to send mails, easy to configure
[09:13] <erry> sorrry
[09:13] <ipon-sanyi> mk,.,mél,áé,á,
[09:14] <WXZ> I mean I want to run a script, with a shortcut key
[09:14] <WXZ> with files selected in nautilus
[09:14] <WXZ> with a file* selected in nautilus
[09:14] <vlt> erry: Ok, your DNS server doesn't know it. Paste /etc/resolv.conf please and /etc/hosts.
[09:14] <WXZ> and I want terminal to output the path and filename of that file
[09:14] <erry> vlt, ok 1 sec
[09:14] <GHH> llutz, how?
[09:14] <llutz> GHH: read documentation
[09:14] <chalcedny>  if i have internet with the ubuntu live cd but not without it, but without it does show me ips in eth2 and eth3 . . how do i fix it?
[09:14] <sweetpi> erry: on errietta-desktop do: "grep errietta-laptop /etc/hosts"
[09:15] <erry> sweetpi, nothing
[09:16] <Dulak> WXZ: sorry never needed that, no idea how to do it, but I'd bet nautilus would pass the selected file as an argument to the script so look at $1, $2, $3, etc in the script
[09:16] <vlt> chalcedny: Maybe you changed your mac address. Look into /etc/udev/rules.d/*network* and delete old entries
[09:16] <erry> vlt, http://pastebin.com/ypKri0LR http://pastebin.com/yTvWMc4k
[09:16] <maxwellian> ross_: What version of Ubuntu are you using? 'lsb_release -a'
[09:16] <maweki> hey guys. I have an usb-stick (8gb) that reports in gparted and fdisk as 64gb. Strange enough. What could be the reason?
[09:16] <Wildweasal> does sshd know to look in /etc/hosts.allow & /etc/hosts.deny , or do i have to specifically tell it to look there in sshd_config ?
[09:16] <ross_> 10.04 lts
[09:16] <ross_> lucid
[09:17] <llutz> Wildweasal: it should use /etc/hosts.* by default
[09:17] <Dulak> WXZ: the advanced bash scripting howto has a lot of info on how to deal with arguments
[09:17] <madrid> Mark -I , I need the exact parameters with the key and the name added, it is quite difficult for me to understand in a language other than Spanish
[09:17] <maxwellian> ross_: Okay.  I'm seeing a bug report on this, but not sure if it applies.  Hang on.
[09:18] <WXZ> ok thanks Dulak
[09:18] <WXZ> pidgin isn't notifying me when someone says my name for some reason :\
[09:18] <Dulak> Wildweasal: sshd should respect allow/deny by default
[09:18] <ross_> looks like might be because of the latest kernal i upgraded to, the previous kernel i had no problem
[09:18] <abhi_nav> newboon2age, yes. It worked. :) thnaks.
[09:19] <newboon2age> abhi_nav: yeah!!!! off to sleep
[09:19] <abhi_nav> newboon2age, also it work only for png images and not for jpg.
[09:19] <abhi_nav> newboon2age, ok bye. :)D
[09:19] <maxwellian> ross_: Not likely a kernel issue.
[09:19] <abhi_nav> :)
[09:19] <vlt> erry: There's no occurance of -laptop anywhere, so the machine has no chance to resolve that name. _Maybe_ it returns ...1.71 because the part before "-laptop" is the same as with "-desktop" ...?
[09:19] <maxwellian> ross_: This is a package config issue, I believe.
[09:19] <erry> vlt, i can resolve other ips in lan tho
[09:19] <opij> does anyone here know about Fluxbuntu?
[09:19] <MaRk-I> madrid: try adding the key: gpg --export --armor F45E32D195B47D2A | sudo apt-key add -     <<< there note the (-) dash
[09:19] <erry> speedtouch.lan has address 192.168.1.254
[09:19] <ross_> maxwellian: how do you fix that
[09:20] <maxwellian> ross_: Still reading, hold on. :)
[09:20] <vlt> erry: Where does that info come from?
[09:20] <erry> vlt, host speedtouch from errietta-desktop
[09:20] <maxwellian> ross_: Type 'cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager'
[09:20] <opij> hoppyite: your ip was showing
[09:20] <vlt> erry: Yes, but where does -desktop know?
[09:20] <ivano> #ubuntu-it
[09:21] <erry> vlt, huh?
[09:21] <ross_> /usr/sbin/gdm
[09:21] <ross_> is the result
[09:21] <opij> erry: what?
[09:21] <erry> vlt, -laptop's hosts and resolv.conf arent different but it can see desktop fine
[09:21] <maxwellian> ross_: Hmm, that doesn't make sense to me.
[09:21] <xro> hi, i would like to add an HD to my server (for the /var). Now my server is full and don't work... the command i will do --> http://dpaste.com/215037/    can you validate it?
[09:22] <vlt> erry: What tells -desktop the IP of speedtouch.lan? The DNS server?
[09:22] <madrid> madrid@max50:~$ gpg --export --armor F45E32D195B47D2A | sudo apt-key add - F45E32D195B47D2A
[09:22] <madrid> gpg: ATENCIÓN: no se ha exportado nada
[09:22] <erry> vlt, probably
[09:22] <madrid> gpg: No se han encontrados datos OpenPGP válidos
[09:22] <madrid> madrid@max50:~$
[09:22] <FloodBot3> madrid: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:22] <opij> erry: who are you?
[09:22] <erry> opij, i am your father
[09:22] <ross_> maxwellian: if it doesn't to you, then it's not even english to me
[09:22] <opij> does anyone here know about Fluxbuntu?
[09:22] <maweki> hey guys. I have a (factory new) usb-stick (8gb) that reports in gparted and fdisk as 64gb. Strange enough. What could be the reason? The default fat32 partition is in place and in order
[09:22] <maxwellian> ross_: Okay, well at this point if you're not going to use KDE desktop, just 'sudo apt-get remove kdm' as suggested earlier.
[09:22] <vlt> erry: Ok, but that doesn't know about -laptop
[09:22] <erry> vlt, it can't not know. they're all connected to the same IP
[09:22] <opij> erry: see those eyes peekin at you? thats me.
[09:22] <ross_> ok let's see
[09:23] <erry> opij, geyes?
[09:23] <opij> erry: sorry im not that way
[09:23] <maxwellian> !ot
[09:23] <MaRk-I> madrid: http://pcollaog.firefox.cl/2009/04/26/agregar-llaves-de-repositorios-apt-en-ubuntu/
[09:23] <ross_> ER
[09:23] <opij> does anyone here know about Fluxbuntu?
[09:23] <maxwellian> ross_: What?
[09:23] <ross_> it looks weird...the screen when black
[09:23] <erry> vlt, both computers are on the same router
[09:24] <ross_> the status is checking battery state...
[09:24] <ross_> what the hell?
[09:24] <vlt> erry: This is no ruting issue
[09:24] <vlt> *routing
[09:24] <erry> then what is it
[09:24] <vlt> erry: A resolving issue
[09:24] <maxwellian> ross_: The screen is black now?
[09:24] <erry> i can resolve -laptop from other computer
[09:24] <erry> computers*
[09:25] <ross_> not entirely black (this is my laptop by the way not my desktop which is what i'm using)
[09:25] <maxwellian> ross_: Okay, thanks for clarifying.
[09:25] <skramer_> could anybody please help me connecting to live.opensuse.org
[09:25] <vlt> erry: And where do they get that info from?
[09:25] <ross_> er..
[09:25] <erry> vlt, the router i guess
[09:25] <ross_> it's....checking the battery state...
[09:25] <skramer_> I tried most of the methods described on that side, but always get a " remote host closed connection"...
[09:25] <^Jay2^> hello, is there any converter from mkv w/ subtitle to mp4 ?
[09:25] <ross_> for a while now, i think it's still uninstalling kde?
[09:25] <ross_> does it take that long?
[09:25] <abhi_nav> skramer_, /newserver live.opensuse.org
[09:26] <vlt> erry: Routers don't resolve names. Maybe from the DNS server. What does `dig errietta-laptop` tell you?
[09:26] <maxwellian> ross_: Can you see the results of the apt-get command?
[09:26] <ross_> no
[09:26] <ross_> it's stuck at this screen
[09:26] <maxwellian> ross_: Is your laptop running on battery, not AC?
[09:26] <skramer_> abhi_nav: what exactly does this mean?
[09:26] <opij> does anyone here know about Fluxbuntu?
[09:26] <ross_> i think i'll just wait a little more, might just still be uninstalling
[09:26] <erry> vlt, http://pastebin.com/BpTdH9gB
[09:26] <ross_> and no, it's not, it's running from AC
[09:26] <llutz> !ask > opij
[09:26] <maxwellian> vlt: There's no way dig is going to find that hostname.
[09:27] <opij> what's the difference between the official Fluxbuntu release and just installing fluxwm on ubuntu?
[09:27] <maxwellian> vlt: dig expects fully qualified domain names.
[09:27] <meowbuntu> hi i hafe a nvida card with issues Nvidia Geforce 9400M, Nvidia corp C79 (rev b1). installes ok but on reboot it always go back to low graphicks mode
[09:27] <abhi_nav> skramer_, you want to connecto irc server? if not ignore
[09:27] <madrid> Mark -i is this the solution? sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com F45E32D195B47D2A
[09:27] <madrid> in a terminal to resolve this.
[09:27] <maxwellian> ross_: What is this "checking battery" message?  Is it a popup on your Ubuntu desktop?
[09:27] <MaRk-I> madrid:  just replace your missing key
[09:28] <ross_> no
[09:28] <maxwellian> ross_: Can you even see your desktop anymore?
[09:28] <ross_> it's the black screen
[09:28] <MaRk-I> madrid:  and yes that one and a second command
[09:28] <ross_> no
[09:28] <ross_> i cannot
[09:28] <madrid> mark how renplace?
[09:28] <xro> hi, i would like to add an HD to my server (for the /var). Now my server is full and don't work... the command i will do --> http://dpaste.com/215037/    can you validate it please? it's my first time
[09:28] <DJones> opij: I've no idea about fluxbuntu, there is a dedicated irc channel on freenode for it though, try joining #fluxbuntu, there may be somebody there who could help you
[09:28] <ross_> the top of the page it says: fsck from util-linux.ng 2.17.2
[09:28] <vlt> erry: Ok, then try `host -v errietta-laptop`
[09:28] <ross_> /dev/sda5: clean. 301265/8798208 files,
[09:29] <ross_> starting apparmor profiles
[09:29] <maxwellian> ross_: It's doing an fsck.
[09:29] <MaRk-I> madrid:  just do that
[09:29] <maxwellian> ross_: File system check.
[09:29] <yunife> meowbuntu, open NVIDIA X Server Settings and set up your monitor and press button Save to X Configuration File try it
[09:29] <ross_> maxwellian: what's that? how long does that take?
[09:29] <madrid> what is the second comand?
[09:29] <maxwellian> ross_: Apparently your computer rebooted.
[09:29] <erry> http://pastebin.com/GQnt8EcL
[09:29] <maxwellian> ross_: Takes a while.  It's good for your computer, has to happen once in a while.
[09:29] <erry> vlt, ^
[09:29] <llutz> ross_: you are on a console showing system messages, switch back with alt-ctrl-f1-6
[09:29] <skramer_> abhi_nav: no, it's a VNC server I want to contact
[09:30] <abhi_nav> skramer_, ignore and ask in #sue
[09:30] <wookienz> !seen
[09:30] <abhi_nav> skramer_, #suse
[09:30] <ross_> llutz: ok but um
[09:30] <maxwellian> llutz: That switches away from the Desktop, not to.
[09:30] <ross_> llutz: i'm stuck on the CUI
[09:30] <ross_> llutz: CLI *
[09:30] <skramer_> abhi_nav: k, thanks
[09:30] <llutz> ross_: alt-ctrl-f7 then
[09:30] <ross_> llutz: how do i get my desktop environment back
[09:30] <MaRk-I> madrid: sudo gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv F45E32D195B47D2A && sudo gpg --export --armor F45E32D195B47D2A | sudo apt-key add -
[09:31] <rafael> Hello, can anyone help me? I switched to x64bit and now whenever I boot up after enabling my Nvidia Geforce 9400M card, xorg tells me it cant find a configured screen and boots me into low graphics mode
[09:31] <ross_> llutz: that just put me back into the fsck from util-linux-ng page again
[09:31] <ross_> which is stuck at checking battery state
[09:31] <vlt> erry: Looks like your DNS server gives that wrong answer
[09:31] <erry> vlt, weird.
[09:31] <llutz> ross_: login and type "sudo service gdm start"
[09:31] <erry> vlt, my dns server is my router
[09:31] <mooseberry> is there a way to change which category in applications a program appears in?
[09:31] <erry> errietta@errietta-desktop:~$ host 192.168.1.254
[09:31] <erry> 254.1.168.192.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer dsldevice.lan.
[09:32] <llutz> ross_: you closed your x-session
[09:32] <erry> that's my router
[09:32] <samuel_ir> join /#ir_am_dev
[09:32] <maxwellian> ross_: You mentioned files from the fsck, is it making progress?
[09:32] <abhi_nav> samuel_ir, /j #ir_am_dev
[09:32] <vlt> erry: technically they're two different devivces
[09:32] <erry> vlt, well my router is messed up :p
[09:32] <Fudge> to dd an image over a network can http do for if= or does it have to be ftp? im having trouble
[09:32] <maxwellian> lastlog erry
[09:32] <maxwellian> Sorry.
[09:32] <vlt> erry: At least the DNS server part of it ;-)
[09:33] <erry> vlt, no the rest of it is too.
[09:33] <madrid> mark when i go to reboot my computer gnomenu failure load
[09:33] <erry> :p
[09:33] <evstevemd> Hi there, anybody have successful ran mixpod.com songs with rhythmbox?
[09:33] <maxwellian> vlt, erry: No DNS server is going to resolve an IP for a domain that doesn't exist.
[09:33] <vlt> erry: Maybe it's confused by the same "errietta-" part of both hosts
[09:33] <MaRk-I> madrid: that has nothing to do with your repo keys
[09:33] <meowbuntu> ok i need a photo manager what should i use something like picassa would be great or maby i will just install picassa
[09:33] <erry> Why doesn't -laptop get confused then?
[09:34] <erry> -laptop resolves -desktop fine
[09:34] <erry> i dont get  it
[09:34] <vlt> maxwellian: I think the "lan" domain is populated by the DHCP server
[09:34] <maxwellian> erry: If you're trying to reach your computers by hostname, you need to have the names and IPs in /etc/hosts.
[09:34] <vlt> erry: It's the DNS server that resolves it. And it seems to have only one stored value for "errieta-*"
[09:35] <erry> vlt, why does -laptop resolve -desktop then
[09:35] <vlt> erry: That's why it worls the other way round
[09:35] <erry> oh..
[09:35] <erry> -_-
[09:35] <maweki> http://nopaste.info/2d373897dc.html -> strangest reading for 4gb usb drive
[09:36] <erry> oh well thanks i guess
[09:36] <vlt> erry: (what maxwellian said, or get a decent DNS server)
[09:36] <erry> vlt, well im not sure -laptop sticks to .72 or -desktop sticks to .71
[09:36] <ross_> HOORAY
[09:36] <madrid> mark dont work and linux is difficult
[09:36] <erry> so i'd have to change it every time D:
[09:36] <ross_> i got my gnome login screen back lol
[09:36] <ross_> that sudo gdm service start works
[09:37] <jgb> anybody having trouble with cpufreq-selector/CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor?
[09:37] <erry> oh well see ya
[09:37] <maxwellian> ross_: Great!
[09:37] <llutz> erry: can't you set "static dhcp" in your router for those hosts
[09:37] <madrid> gpg: No se han encontrados datos OpenPGP válidos
[09:37] <madrid> madrid@max50:~$
[09:37] <MaRk-I> madrid: that command was just to add the missing repo keys, that has nothing to do with your desktop
[09:37] <maxwellian> vlt: The only solution I know to erry's problem is to configure static IPs with /etc/interfaces and put the hostnames/IPs in /etc/hosts
[09:38] <debugview> is there anything that i can use to chart my bandwidth in ubuntu?
[09:38] <maxwellian> vlt: Are you saying there's another way?
[09:38] <ross_> llutz: graci
[09:38] <maxwellian> vlt: erry left, but I'm curious.
[09:38] <Jimi_Neutral> Hi all, I am rolling out some iPaqs in Germany. Now, they have WiFi on them and one of my reps that uses them is having troubles connecting to her WiFi. I have been asked by this complete numpty at work to research German WiFi networks and WEP keys....is it just me or is that a completely stupid thing to ask me to do?
[09:38] <ross_> man KDE sucks....
[09:38] <jgb> debugview: what bandwidth, exactly?
[09:38] <vlt> maxwellian: That's what DNS is for ;-)
[09:38] <ross_> xefe is not that bad, though
[09:38] <meatbun> how much resolution can ubuntu display with external monitor on a 10 inch netbook with GMA 3150 card?
[09:38] <Pindakaas> is there a way to have flash use pulseaudio?
[09:38] <debugview> jgb, the network bandwidth...in/out etc
[09:38] <ross_> maxwellian: do you recommend another desktop environment besides the popular ones?
[09:39] <jgb> debugview: if you want it that basic, just use one of the widgets
[09:39] <maxwellian> vlt: Obviously I know what DNS is for, but I'm not aware of a way for DNS to work with domain names that don't exist.
[09:39] <meatbun> 1366 x 768 possible?
[09:39] <maxwellian> ross_: Sorry, no.  Haven't used any.
[09:40] <jgb> debugview: for example, Netmonitor from the Screenlets app
[09:40] <madrid> mark i only want the console parameters for this problem...
[09:40] <ross_> anyone? any cool desktop environment they'd like to recommend ?
[09:40] <MaRk-I> madrid: send me a pm
[09:40] <madrid> mark what is a pm?
[09:41] <MaRk-I> private message
[09:41] <vlt> maxwellian: The domain name ".lan" exists as soon as the DNS server knows about it (which is the case here)
[09:41] <chalcedny> if i have internet with the ubuntu live cd but not without it, but without it does show me ips in eth2 and eth3 . . how do i fix it? about 8 hours ago, i was typing on irc, on my ubuntu 9.04 box, it opened some screenshot windows, but i didn't press print screen, then it got slower and slower, i finally shut it down when the clock stopped moving. when i rebooted it couldnt see the lan at all. i tested and did other things. i learned to boot from
[09:41] <chalcedny> a usb stick and tried three different lan cards. with the live cd i had internet, but now i don't again.
[09:41] <madrid> yes
[09:41] <debugview> debugview, what about CLI?
[09:41] <maxwellian> vlt: So it would be hostname.lan?  That would supposedly resolve to an IP?
[09:42] <vlt> maxwellian: When "search lan" is announced by DHCP all requests to host names will be completed to hostname.lan. Then it should work.
[09:42] <jgb> chalcedny: you might want to be a bit more systematic about this...
[09:42] <chalcedny> jgb, in how i describe it or?
[09:42] <jan-pieter> I installed Ubuntu on a usb drive but It doesn't boot properly. When I boot everything goes fine. I see the splash but then when gnome starts things go wrong. Most of the time my laptop stops working with a black screen. Somethings I get a black screen with a cross in it. I really have no clue what I could do about it. Does anyone want to help me?
[09:42] <vlt> maxwellian: (Works here with 6 different domains=)
[09:43] <maxwellian> vlt: Six different hosts, all on the .lan domain?
[09:43] <chalcedny> jan-pieter, yopu might want to say how long it's had linux on it- is this a new install? which laptop?
[09:44] <vlt> maxwellian: No, the same setup with local domains in six different LANs
[09:44] <meowbuntu> are there any good basic photo managers/editers for ubuntu like picassa
[09:44] <vlt> meowbuntu: f-spot comes close
[09:44] <jgb> chalcedny: have you tried booting the livecd again and seeing whether it still works?
[09:44] <maxwellian> vlt: This is very interesting to me, do you mind posting the results of one of those queries to the pastebin?  This is just for my education now, no problem to be solved, so I don't mind if you're too busy.
[09:44] <chalcedny> jgb hmm no
[09:44] <meowbuntu> ah f-spot i remember that now thanks
[09:44] <jgb> chalcedny: and what does the network setup look like currently?
[09:45] <jan-pieter> chalcedny: It's the first time I try ubuntu on the laptop. It's a new install to a usb key. and its a HP laptop: dv6000
[09:46] <vlt> maxwellian: This is a line in my dhcps.conf: option domain-name "dd.mycompany.intra";
[09:46] <vlt> *dhcpd of course
[09:46] <vlt> maxwellian: dd is the location
[09:46] <jgb> chalcedny: drivers for the card loading correctly?
[09:46] <chalcedny> jgb umm how do you mean? 2 lan cards (main onboard one seems to have major problems) from my computer to switch, to router to cable modem. (wired lan)?
[09:47] <Waltywalt> Hey everyone - I was hoping someone might be able to help me out.  New x64 Kubuntu install, running really sluggishly - I am new to linux so I don't know where to begin to check resource usage etc
[09:47] <chalcedny> jgb umm drivers didn't come into it yet, hadn't had anyone ask about them, just ifconfig and other commands that show eth
[09:47] <vlt> maxwellian: Now this is announced to all DHCP clients which results in this line in /etc/resolv.conf: search dd.mycompany.intra
[09:47] <theduke> hi guys, I get an error when trying to install php5-cli: Error: The new file /usr/share/php5/php.ini-production.cli does not exist!
[09:47] <theduke> subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[09:47] <jgb> chalcedny: put ifconfig output in a pastebin?
[09:48] <chalcedny> jgb you mean type it manually?
[09:48] <xro> hi, i would like to add an HD to my server (for the /var). Now my server is full and don't work... the command i will do --> http://dpaste.com/215037/    can you validate it please? it's my first time
[09:48] <vlt> maxwellian: When one of these hosts tries to reolve a host like "asterisk" it works because it actually queries for asterisk.dd.mycompany.intra
[09:48] <chalcedny> or jgb i can boot to the cd and pastebin it
[09:49] <jgb> chalcedny: don't boot the cd, i'm talking about your current setup
[09:50] <iflema> Waltywalt have you ever tried just plain old Ubuntu on the same system? There is a good chance its sluggish because its Kubuntu (KDE4). Activating 3D acceleration, if not already, would help some.....
[09:50] <chalcedny> jgb then how much of that stuff do you really need because typing it would be hard?
[09:50] <maxwellian> vlt: Hmmm...so you have to be running your own dhcpd?  Can't use the router for dhcp?
[09:50] <jgb> chalcedny: not sure... maybe use a usb disk to transfer it?
[09:51] <Waltywalt> iflema, I did run ubuntu w/ gnome at one point - but I'm not sure if it was 64 bit.  How can I enable 3d acceleration ?  I'd like to try that first.
[09:51] <chalcedny> jgb i don't have a cd drive and the usb stick is the boot device
[09:52] <jgb> chalcedny: lol ok. can you disable the main(broken) card? (in the bios?) it would make things simpler.
[09:52] <iflema> Waltywalt m8 im not sure.... keep asking here maybe also try in #kubuntu
[09:52] <llutz> maxwellian: most soho-routers have that option too
[09:52] <vlt> maxwellian: Routers don't do DHCP
[09:52] <Waltywalt> iflema,  Thanks :)
[09:52] <vlt> maxwellian: Example query: http://pastebin.com/kxEmjf3e
[09:53] <vlt> maxwellian: DHCP servers do
[09:53] <chalcedny> jgb i looked for internet in the bios before, i didn'[t see where it is, i looked on each page .. maybe it's there but i didn't see it?
[09:53] <jgb> vlt: some "routers" aren't only routers anymore
[09:53] <maxwellian> vlt: Are you just trying to be accurate with the terminology?
[09:54] <maxwellian> vlt: Certainly my wireless router is handling dhcp.
[09:54] <vlt> jgb, maxwellian: Yes, the router inside the multi-purpose device is just routing.
[09:54] <jgb> chalcedny: well it won't be 'internet', probably "NIC" or something, and it would be under integrated devices... but ok. let's see
[09:55] <chalcedny> i did look
[09:56] <maxwellian> vlt: On my computer, I'm not running dhcpd.  The router is doing dhcp.  So how can I configure that .conf file, even to start the process?
[09:56] <maxwellian> vlt: (I mean, the "multi-purpose device".) :)
[09:56] <vlt> maxwellian: I got a DHCP server, DNS server, router, wireless AP, SSH server, HTTP server and OpenVPN server. All running in the same box (you'd call "router" ;-)
[09:57] <Deluge> Are there any developers/packagers in the room?
[09:57] <vlt> maxwellian: What software runs on that ... device ;-) ?
[09:57] <hihihi100> who can give me a hand to install valgrind in my ubuntu 10.04?
[09:57] <jgb> chalcedny: how many eth devices do you have in ifconfig?
[09:57] <PyIRC> Hello.
[09:57] <maxwellian> vlt: I don't know, it's just a Linksys router.
[09:57] <PyIRC> Hello.
[09:58] <chalcedny> jgb i just rebooted to bios .. now looking
[09:58] <maxwellian> vlt: (Sorry to take up your time with this, I'm just very curious.)
[09:58] <llutz> maxwellian: consider using 3rd-party firmware like dd-wrt, which allow ssh-access to the router to change those settings
[09:59] <vlt> maxwellian: np. I'm running DD-WRT (mind the location ;-)  on all of my Linksys routers and can confiure each part of it as I like
[09:59] <chalcedny> jgb i have Main Smart Advanced H/W Monitor Boot Security and Exit
[09:59] <maxwellian> llutz: I've been meaning to look into that more, thanks.
[10:00] <llutz> maxwellian: tomato or openwrt might be interesting too
[10:00] <eitan> Need help on changing default OS on grub on 10.04
[10:00] <hihihi100> valgrind help please
[10:00] <Dulak> I prefer openwrt myself but they all about the same in terms of changing any setting you like
[10:00] <maxwellian> llutz: Dulak, llutz: Thanks, good to know there are options.
[10:01] <maxwellian> vlt: But out-of-the-box, this .lan domain is not normally available, right?
[10:01] <vlt> maxwellian: The .lan domain is defined by your Linksys device
[10:01] <eitan> maxwellian, Good morning. This is hareldvd on a different account. Sleep well?
[10:01] <vlt> maxwellian: Your resolv.conf shows a "search lan" line
[10:02] <vlt> maxwellian: This must have come from the DHCP server
[10:02] <Dulak> maxwellian: not to change, but it's defined automatically, to make changes you have to put a custom firmware on it
[10:02] <vlt> maxwellian: Sorry, that was erry's resolv.conf ;-)
[10:02] <maxwellian> eitan: Hi hareldvd.  Eventually! ;)
[10:03] <maxwellian> vlt: Oh, I was gonna ask. :)
[10:03] <maxwellian> vlt: I'll look at mine now.
[10:03] <vlt> maxwellian: Look at your current /etc/resolv.conf
[10:03] <vlt> maxwellian: :)
[10:04] <maxwellian> Dulak: Cool, thanks.  You guys are blowing my DNS mind right now. :)
[10:04] <eitan> I need help to make grub use a different OS as default. V1.98 is very confusing.
[10:05] <maxwellian> vlt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/459748/
[10:05] <jgb> chalcedny: no idea, but if you can't find it, just boot the livecd, cat the output of lsmod, lspci, dmesg and ifconfig to a text file on the usb boot disk, and reboot into the installed sistem
[10:05] <jgb> chalcedny: *system
[10:06] <llutz> eitan: /etc/dafault/grub - > GRUB_DEFAULT=X
[10:06] <Dulak> maxwellian: those linksys routers are actually pretty awesome for the price, if you have one that can have the firmware replaced I highly recommend doing it.
[10:06] <chalcedny> jgb wow ..
[10:06] <eitan> llutz, Thanks.
[10:06] <llutz> eitan: sudo update-grub           after changing
[10:07] <maxwellian> Dulak: What do routers normally run?  If not some kind of Linux firmware?
[10:07] <vlt> maxwellian: The Linksys DHCP server seems to pass the domain it gets from your ISP's DHCP server to its clients
[10:07] <eitan> llutz, How can I tell which partition? the list is dynamic.
[10:07] <Dulak> maxwellian: each manufacturer makes thier own
[10:07] <_Jacob1987_> thanks.
[10:08] <maxwellian> Dulak: That's lame.  Especially since all that effort is moot when people like you wipe out their firmware. :)
[10:08] <llutz> eitan: that you have to ask the st***d grub2-devs :(
[10:08] <jgb> chalcedny: lsmod > NICinfo; lspci >> NICinfo; ifconfig >> NICinfo; dmesg >> NICinfo;
[10:08] <maxwellian> vlt: So that would preclude me from doing what you're talking about?
[10:08] <eitan> llutz, Thanks.
[10:08] <vlt> maxwellian: Linksys began to use linux itself on its devices (that's why it's possible to use your own distro at all) but w/o full access for the customer
[10:09] <sabre1994> get off
[10:09] <Dulak> maxwellian: yup, companies are kinda stupid like that.
[10:09] <mooseberry> anyone here know rythmbox?
[10:10] <Dulak> maxwellian: the version on the bottom of the router, has to be v5 or less
[10:10] <zeitsofa> hello. did anybody know how i have to configure 2 screens in ltsp for the thinclient?
[10:10] <`boz> hi all i've just installed a piece of software and cannot find it in the applications list, using ubuntu 10.04
[10:10] <`boz> any help appreciated
[10:10] <vlt> !anyone | mooseberry
[10:10] <Dulak> maxwellian: unless the model number of the router has an L in it, which means linux compatible
[10:10] <vlt> zeitsofa: Maybe ask in #ltsp
[10:11] <BlueSilver39> ubuntu is pretty much useless for an older intel card these days, but maybe its just the newer drivers
[10:11] <maxwellian> Dulak: DRT54GST V1
[10:11] <zeitsofa> vlt: i did. but i think all peoples there a working or sleeping - so i hope anybody here can help me.
[10:12] <Dulak> maxwellian: that might be too new to root
[10:12] <maxwellian> vlt: Phew, looks like I've got a bit of research ahead of me.  Sorry for "correcting" you when I didn't know what I was talking about. :P
[10:12] <vlt> maxwellian: yw
[10:12] <`boz> could nyone tell me where a new ly instakked program would be located if i wanted to add a launcher?
[10:12] <mooseberry> anyone know if there is a way for rythmbox to automatically update songs from a certain folder?
[10:13] <Waltywalt> Why choose ubuntu over kubuntu?  Is the only difference KDE vs. GNOME with the same underlying OS ?
[10:13] <vlt> zeitsofa: Maybe ogra knows
[10:13] <Dulak> maxwellian: check some of the linksys distro pages they usually have a list of compatible models and versions
[10:13] <maxwellian> Dulak: I'll do that.  I'm not necessarily interested in actually doing it, but I'd like to understand the process and why it's done.  Thanks for the tips!
[10:13] <DJones> Waltywalt: Thats pretty much it, it just depends which you prefer Gnome/KDE and which default applications you want
[10:14] <DJones> Waltywalt: Regardless of which you start with, they use the same repositories and you can install KDE app's on Ubuntu
[10:14] <sunqing> 大家好
[10:15] <Cyclist2> Hello, there! I am having a reocurring problem with my PC's keyboard; starts on a graphical session; now, if I access any tty console I find that the keyboard does not work there either [used to be possible to login and restart the GDM, which resolved the issue for everyday use], and that I cannot even login [the numeric keypad does work and so does 'backspace' but not the keys with numbers and other characters on it {on the
[10:15] <maxwellian> Waltywalt: Theoretically, you can even run both desktops and choose between them on login.
[10:15] <Dulak> mooseberry: edit->preferences->music tab
[10:15] <sunqing> I'm china
[10:15] <maxwellian> !ch | sunqing
[10:15] <maxwellian> Ha, sorry. :)
[10:15] <Waltywalt> I'm more about the Desktop Environment ...  So I guess KDE is my preference.  I am just trying to figure a simple way to deal with this laptop running so slow.
[10:15] <llutz> !CN > sunqing
[10:16] <maxwellian> Waltywalt: Gnome also provides a "desktop environment".
[10:16] <mooseberry> ahh yeah kinda simple thanks Dulak
[10:16] <Waltywalt> I have a 64 bit laptop and Windows 7 ultimate runs faster!
[10:16] <Nikolai_D> Guys, ive got a trouble, im trying to clone a disk but then i get blinking cursor or after fdisk /mbr invalid / non system disk etc. Anyone any idea?
[10:16] <belkov> хи
[10:17] <Nikolai_D> privet
[10:17] <Nikolai_D> :)
[10:17] <belkov> =)
[10:17] <belkov> как аську установить на линуксе?
[10:17] <belkov> все утро калупаюсь
[10:17] <Waltywalt> I really expected Kubuntu 64 to run BETTER than windows with all it's graphics intensive garbage.
[10:17] <llutz> !ru  > belkov
[10:18] <maxwellian> Waltywalt: Normally with older hardware distros like Xubuntu or Lubuntu are recommended.  But I guess your hardware is not old, so I'm not sure what the issue could be.
[10:18] <belkov> спасиба
[10:18] <Dulak> Waltywalt: 32 bit ubuntu will prolly smoke on that machine
[10:18] <belkov> ха
[10:18] <belkov> тут че одна нерусь?
[10:18] <llutz> !ru  |belkov
[10:19] <chalcedny> jgb i don't even know how to do that.. but i'm saving each one as a .txt is that ok?
[10:19] <Dulak> Waltywalt: moving to 64 bit without requiring it just doubles the amount of ram everything you run uses for no good reason
[10:19] <Waltywalt> Dulak, yeah I'll try that I guess ... I just really wanted to utilize the technology to it's fullest.  I have a 35Mb up & down connection
[10:20] <Nikolai_D> does disk cloning copyes partition table / mbr to or not?
[10:20] <vlt> !details | Nikolai_D
[10:20] <Waltywalt> Dulak, really?  I didn't know that!  It doubles it?
[10:20] <NarbeH> how can i drop a connection in "ss" command?
[10:20] <korya> hall
[10:20] <korya> hi all*
[10:20] <Dulak> Waltywalt: 32 bit address space to 64 bit means every address is twice as big as before
[10:20] <Waltywalt> I think I have 4Gb Ram in this machine (probably a slower bus though, I can't recall)
[10:21] <NarbeH> how can i drop a connection in "ss" command?
[10:21] <vlt> NarbeH: Assuming you mean "ssh" just type exit, hit ctrl+d or AltGr+]
[10:21] <chalcedny> jgb is  lsmod > NICinfo; lspci >> NICinfo; ifconfig >> NICinfo; dmesg >> NICinfo; a command?
[10:21] <Dulak> Waltywalt: 64 bit is only if you really need it, like you have more than 4 gigs of ram say
[10:21] <NarbeH> vitaly: no, ss
[10:22] <Waltywalt> I guess in my certification classes I just understood 64 vs 32 to mean that the machine's components would send the information theoretically twice as fast.
[10:22] <maxwellian> Dulak: Does it actually double the amount of RAM *used* or the amount of RAM *addressable*?
[10:22] <llutz> NarbeH: ctrl-c?
[10:22] <vlt> Waltywalt: There are some applications that run faster with 64 bit. AES for example or some databases
[10:22] <developer> Can I run dream weaver in Ubuntu ?
[10:22] <maxwellian> Sorry, didn't know that actually made things bold.
[10:23] <Waltywalt> developer, I don't think adobe has linux versions available???
[10:23] <Dulak> maxwellian: every memory address becomes double the size it was, everything doubles in ram
[10:23] <Waltywalt> developer, if you learn differently please let me know - I would be a happy camper
[10:23] <NarbeH> llutz: vitaly: for example. someone is connected to me. i want to drop him
[10:23] <Nikolai_D> i clone a disk drive with ghost. i have two pc's with same hw. i want same system on second pc. But after disk to disk cloning it doesnt boot up.
[10:23] <developer> Waltywalt, Is there any way to install indirectly ?
[10:24] <Waltywalt> Dulak, thanks for all the information - I'll try ubuntu and see if that works.
[10:24] <chalcedny> i have two files in the live cd of 10.04, i need them on my main computer.. how can i do this?
[10:24] <vlt> Nikolai_D: Is ghost an Ubuntu tool?
[10:24] <Waltywalt> vlt, I don't even know what AES is or stands for :)
[10:24] <maxwellian> Dulak: If an address that was 0xabcdef11 is now 0x00000000abcdef11, how has that doubled memory use?
[10:24] <indus> chalcedny, copy paste wajt else
[10:24] <maxwellian> Dulak: Having just been schooled in DNS I'm trying to be cautious here. ;)
[10:25] <chalcedny> indus from live cd to not using it how?
[10:25] <llutz> NarbeH: i guess "cutter" can do
[10:25] <indus> chalcedny,hmm how did you get thse files there
[10:25] <Nikolai_D> vlt: no, why?
[10:25] <AyRh0nS> ue des codeurs
[10:25] <Waltywalt> maxwellian - I was thinking about that the same way.  I have a networking background as well.
[10:25] <AyRh0nS> preske que
[10:25] <vlt> Nikolai_D: Becasue this is the Ubuntu support channel
[10:25] <AyRh0nS> raaa
[10:25] <AyRh0nS> sorry
[10:25] <AyRh0nS> it's not good windows :x
[10:26] <indus> chalcedny, iam not sure what you want, if its some file on the cd, boot into a OS and copy from there
[10:26] <Nikolai_D> vlt: so?
[10:26] <developer> Waltywalt, How about using wine for dream weaver in Ubuntu ?
[10:26] <NarbeH> llutz: yeah men, thats it
[10:26] <Dulak> maxwellian: Every address is twice the size it was at 32 bits, so allocating one address that used to be 32 bits of memory is now 64 bits of memory
[10:26] <NarbeH> thx
[10:26] <vlt> maxwellian: Programs now store their data in 64bit long words -> more RAM _used_ too
[10:26] <aldin> Hi, where do i enable small icons, which can be seen besides label, for e.g nautilusOpenInTerminal, i have it on Mint, it must be somewhere in gconf-editor? Please take look at this picture http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/5319/nosmallicons.png
[10:26] <chalcedny> i should have explained more, i did boot the livecd, pasted the output of lsmod, lspci, dmesg and ifconfig to a text file, but now i will need them on 'my' computer NOT the cd .. so how?
[10:27] <Waltywalt> developer, I don't know.  I don't have hardly any experience in linux OS'  ... I have a very extensive Windows background - so I can not help you.
[10:27] <indus> chalcedny, get it to a pen drive then ,
[10:27] <iceroot> chalcedny: system - settings - apperiance
[10:27] <iceroot> chalcedny: show icons, show text, show small icons and so on
[10:27] <chalcedny> iceroot, hmm?
[10:27] <indus> chalcedny, hmm wait it can be copied sure , to a non live cd running partition :)
[10:27] <noaXess> hi all
[10:27] <Dulak> chalcedny copy the files() to the usb flash drive
[10:27] <Benkinooby> join #phoronix
[10:28] <iceroot> chalcedny: ah wrong nick
[10:28] <chalcedny> Dulak, umm how?
[10:28] <developer> Waltywalt, Then why did you come to Ubuntu channel ?
[10:28] <chalcedny> iceroot, it's ok don't worry
[10:28] <maxwellian> Dulak, vlt: Oh, because what used to be enough space for two addresses in 32-bit is now only enough for one in 64-bit.
[10:28] <Dulak> maxwellian: exactly
[10:28] <iceroot> aldin: system - settings - apperiance
[10:28] <NarbeH> llutz: it says: openning /proc/net/ip_conntrack: No such file or directory
[10:28] <noaXess> have a nivdia gtx 460 and nvidia-current installed.. but get the card not running correctly.. only 1024x768 an displays that have more the 1280 resolution modes
[10:28] <vlt> Waltywalt: AES in an encryption algo (or rather standard)
[10:28] <Belserusk> Hi. What is the best method to convert an FLV video to audio in Ubuntu?
[10:28] <chalcedny> indus, how?
[10:28] <NarbeH> llutz: i want to cut someone the error occured
[10:28] <maxwellian> Dulak: Man, I sure know a lot less than I think I know. ;)
[10:29] <indus> chalcedny, hmm i need to use my brain for it, you can tryusing yours :D
[10:29] <vlt> Belserusk: ffmpeg
[10:29] <Dulak> chalcedny: places -> computer, the flash drive should be listed in the list on the left
[10:29] <developer> Waltywalt, If you have any doubt please ask me, I am a Linux Pro.
[10:29] <chalcedny> indus this system 's cd drive quit working, i never botered with it.. so i have the live verson on my usb stick
[10:29] <indus> chalcedny, basically, if your hdd already has some partitions, just move over the files there
[10:29] <indus> chalcedny, aah easy easy easy
[10:30] <indus> chalcedny, so remake the usb bootable with persistent option, or probably its already made taht way, and you can surely copy to flash
[10:30] <indus> chalcedny, did you try copy to pen drive ? that same bootable one
[10:31] <chalcedny> indus no i didn't, i've never done that , it's hard for me to do visual stuff
[10:31] <indus> chalcedny, any vision problems?
[10:31] <chalcedny> indus i do better with commandline /plain text
[10:31] <indus> chalcedny, you said you are booting from usb flash. I dont understand what you cannot see
[10:32] <aldin> iceroot: dont see that
[10:32] <Waltywalt> developer, because I had linux questions I needed answers to myself :)  That's why i'm here haha.
[10:32] <mnemon> Dulak: whether or not things double in ram is still language specific, you don't need to use 64bit variables in 64bit system(except for pointers), i haven't noticed doubling of ram usage in practice ...
[10:32] <ranjan> developer, can you help me in installing ubuntu??
[10:33] <chalcedny> indus, i hate to make it so hard, where is 'copy to pen drive'?
[10:33] <indus> chalcedny, right click on file and send to
[10:34] <chalcedny> indus, in a terminal, vim?
[10:34] <indus> chalcedny, see ?
[10:34] <chalcedny> no
[10:34] <indus> chalcedny, terminal ?
[10:34] <indus> chalcedny, why dont you just cp /path/to/drive
[10:34] <developer> ranjan, are you kidding
[10:35] <chalcedny> indus, it's jsut not something i know how to do
[10:35] <ranjan> developer, Kidding ??!!! Whats that in the linux world??
[10:35] <Dulak> mnemon: I did, made a box with 2 gig ram run like it had 1 gig.  The minimum addressable space doubles, but that doesn't mean all ram usage doubles, I was simplifying it to get the point across
[10:35] <indus> chalcedny, ok
[10:35] <Joshmuffin> hey does anyone know why extra visual effects is so buggy? 10.04, fglrx graphics driver
[10:36] <indus> Joshmuffin, please use 10.6 catalyst
[10:36] <indus> Joshmuffin, works almost great
[10:36] <Joshmuffin> 10.6 catalyst?
[10:36] <burr_> has anyone else had the issue that after booting into a windows recovery mode (accidentally in this case) the linux partition is deleted?
[10:37] <indus> chalcedny, ok hold on
[10:37] <burr_> and grub shows an error and has no working commands?
[10:37] <Joshmuffin> burr_, do you meen deleted or doesnt showup in grub?
[10:37] <chalcedny> oik thank you very much indus :)
[10:38] <indus> chalcedny, DID YOu make this pen drive persistent when creating it? its an option that lets you save to the same live drive
[10:38] <indus> chalcedny, else, to save to HDD, youshould mount the disk
[10:38] <burr_> i mean deleted
[10:38] <burr_> grub shows "no such partition"
[10:38] <burr_> i booted from a live cd and went to gparted
[10:38] <burr_> the former linux partition was shown as unallocated space
[10:38] <NarbeH> llutz: have work with cutter?
[10:39] <Joshmuffin> indus, can you link me to a guide to installing catalyst
[10:39] <llutz> NarbeH: only once, long time ago. cannot help you, sorry.
[10:39] <indus> Joshmuffin, here is the link >> http://askindus.somewhereonirc
[10:39] <indus> Joshmuffin, ill help you
[10:39] <indus> :)
[10:39] <indus> Joshmuffin, ok first of all, which graphics card
[10:40] <NarbeH> llutz: i just want to ask about the result. sudo cutter 192.168.1.6
[10:40] <NarbeH> No matching connections found
[10:40] <chalcedny> indus i didn't know about that i just told the software to make the cd - i used http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[10:40] <indus> chalcedny, do one thing, in live session, go to places and see if you see  any partitions
[10:41] <indus> chalcedny, can you do that ?
[10:41] <burr_> am i alone in this problem?
[10:41] <chalcedny> indus ok
[10:41] <indus> burr_,  have patience, you will find help
[10:41] <burr_> nah, its cool
[10:41] <burr_> im just wondering
[10:41] <iflema> burr_ recovery console or system recovery (OEM) winblows does not play nice, it will not warn you, it will take care of itself....
[10:41] <ingenius> Hi! .. I tryed to create a .xsession to start something in my systems  but works in my 8.10 but not in my 10.04... Anyone know why ?
[10:41] <burr_> i've already reinstalled and started sudo'ing back my applications
[10:42] <sean74> hi there
[10:42] <burr_> but can anyone give me a cause? and is there a way to avoid it?
[10:42] <sean74> anyone manage to add thunderbird into indicator-applet
[10:42] <indus> bb 5 min
[10:42] <chalcedny> indus places home folder, desktop, documents, music, pictues, videos, downloads, computer, 497 gb filesystem Network ,connect to server, search for files, recent documents
[10:42] <maxwellian> burr_: I've never done that, but I doubt that's supposed to happen.
[10:42] <llutz> NarbeH: no idea
[10:43] <CbIP> Hi guys! Can anybody help, plz? Why does the same browser (Opera) on the same PC, on the same Wifi connection works 3-5 times slower under Ubuntu, than Windows 7?
[10:43] <maxwellian> burr_: You were dual booting?
[10:43] <burr_> it happened to me twice
[10:43] <burr_> and yes
[10:43] <Joshmuffin> indus, i have a ati radeon HD4650
[10:44] <maxwellian> burr_: Which Windows, which Ubuntu?  And which did you install first?
[10:44] <burr_> windows 7 came pre-installed
[10:44] <iflema> burr_ if you selected system recovery its most likely your system had a recovery partition containing widows in case of a reload and you reloaded it. In such a case winblows will NOT warn you.
[10:44] <chalcedny> CbIP, ive seen 5 people in here tonight with similar (not identical) problems, see if you can google slower in 10.04 or something like that
[10:44] <burr_> then i installed 10.04
[10:45] <maxwellian> burr_: Okay, that is generally the way to do it, since Ubuntu knows how to play nice with other OS's.
[10:45] <CbIP> chalcedny: Thanks, I'll try. I decided to use Ubuntu instead of Win 7 on my notebook - but this problem annoys me
[10:45] <burr_> well, i know that recovery caused the problem...but what did it do? shouldn't it have gotten rid of grub as well? and how can i hide the recovery partition from the menu so i don't accidentally click it again
[10:46] <chalcedny> CbIP, see if firefox or some other browser is faster -- opera works fine for me on 9.04
[10:47] <CbIP> chalcedny the same thing happens with Firefox. It seems like 5 or more seconds timeout before page starts to load. And it loads very slow (especially pics.)
[10:47] <Joshmuffin> indus, i added Ubuntu X Team's PPA and ran apt-get upgrade, in an attempt to get the new drivers, there downloading now.
[10:48] <chalcedny> CbIP, hmm i'm not an expert - it just doesn't seem right .. stuff should fly on ubuntu
[10:48] <maxwellian> burr_: I don't know what happened, but removing the link from the Grub list shouldn't be too hard.
[10:49] <burr_> okay, how?
[10:49] <CbIP> chalcedny - Everything else flys! Compiz, folder opening... Everything
[10:49] <burr_> or rather
[10:49] <burr_> do you have any ideas?
[10:49] <maxwellian> burr_: Are you comfortable with the command line?
[10:49] <CbIP> chalcedny: And I have no idea even where and what to search
[10:49] <CbIP> for
[10:50] <burr_> yes
[10:50] <soreau> CbIP: Sounds like possible slow DNS. What does cat /etc/resolv.conf say?
[10:50] <maxwellian> burr_: Do you have an editor preference?
[10:50] <chalcedny> CbIP, keep asking
[10:50] <burr_> kate
[10:51] <maxwellian> burr_: Okay, the menu file is /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:51] <iflema> burr_ you where there...... what and how many times did you select something and what was selected, if anything??? Did you answer any questions? Was the word "partition" involved at all?
[10:51] <chalcedny> is there a way to copy stuff from live cd to main drive or to access the live cd from the drive after i boot into the drive normally?
[10:51] <CbIP> soreau: don;t know - I'm using another PC now. What shoud it say?
[10:51] <burr_> iflema: no, i immediately exited the recovery menu
[10:52] <burr_> maxwellian: open with sudo or gksudo?
[10:52] <CbIP> soreau: Give me a minute and I'll change pc
[10:52] <iflema> burr_  and the rebooted to nothing?
[10:52] <burr_> iflema: yes
[10:52] <soreau> CbIP: Just look at the nameserver line and try a different public DNS like googles 8.8.8.8
[10:52] <iflema> burr_ very strange... as you where....
[10:53] <CbIP> soreau: Thank you!
[10:54] <maxwellian> burr_: sudo
[10:54] <maxwellian> burr_: Actually, before you do anything, we should back up the file.
[10:54] <llutz> burr_: gksudo for gui-apps
[10:55] <iflema> burr_ the new grub, grub2, makes it hard to hide things that exist.... it is possible to remove the recovery option from the menu but you may experience tears....
[10:55] <burr_> ehh
[10:55] <burr_> i'll just tell him to be really careful
[10:55] <maxwellian> burr_: Tell who?
[10:55] <burr_> my friend likes kubuntu's eye candy and wanted me to make his notebook pretty
[10:55] <JediMaster> how do I display the grub boot menu on loading? i've tried hammering escape etc. but no luck
[10:56] <maxwellian> iflema: Do you know how to fix it?
[10:56] <Dulak> JediMaster: hold down shift while booting
[10:56] <stwobe> I want to install lilypond on to my Ubuntu setup. I have 9.10 - a netbook version of Ubuntu. What is best way?
[10:56] <JediMaster> new it was somethign simple, thanks Dulak
[10:56] <iflema> maxwellian a repartitioned/deleted system... impossible
[10:57] <Lazyvee> hello everyone! I installed Ubuntu 10.04 (dual boot) and could get online and update using my LAN cable but things got more complicated when I decided to try my Atheros wifi card. Basically what happens is it detects the network but doesn't connect to the internet. I tried 'ndiswrapper -l' in the Terminal but nothing showed so I did 'lspci -nn' to find my card model and the downloaded the...
[10:57] <maxwellian> iflema: No, I mean to remove an entry from the boot menu?
[10:57] <Lazyvee> ...driver I found on http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ndiswrapper. Now that I have this zip file I have a silly question (i'm new to Linux): how do I install the driver?
[10:57] <shanee> hello
[10:57] <burr_> well, can i make my grub prettier?
[10:57] <maxwellian> burr_: I'm just checking into iflema's comment about grub2
[10:57] <iflema> maxwellian one way would be to disable the os prober and add any entries manually.....
[10:58] <jgb> chalcedny: yes it is a command
[10:58] <burr_> well its almost 5 am and im not that committed
[10:58] <iflema> maxwellian nightmare, dont do it
[10:58] <shanee> i have messed up with tftpd-hpa package not removing, i am installing virtualbox now it is not installing due to tftpd-hpa
[10:58] <traktor> привет
[10:58] <traktor> всем
[10:58] <FloodBot3> traktor: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:58] <chalcedny> wb jgb :)
[10:58] <traktor> я не флужу я рсский
[10:58] <erUSUL> !ru | traktor
[10:59] <happyaron> Destine: /lea
[10:59] <iflema> maxwellian burr_ the grub menu last a couple of seconds 1. be careful what you select 2. xxx x xxxx
[10:59] <llutz> iflema: maxwellian editing /boot/grub.cfg to delete the entry, but has to be repeated after every change to grub, as the file will be recreated. grub2 sucks
[10:59] <traktor> horosho
[10:59] <chalcedny> i dunno jgb it wanted to copy all my files to the live cd..
 You might need to do modprobe ndiswrapper once it is installed. to install the driver you need to do ndiswrapper -i ******.inf   - the stars meaning the inf driver you have. make sense//
[11:00] <aldin> for channel, answer is gconf-editor -> "/desktop/gnome/interface/menus_have_icons"
[11:00] <shanee> somebody know how to remove this package tftpd-hpa manually
[11:00] <llutz> */boot/grub/grub.cfg
[11:00] <maxwellian> iflema: Sorry, I don't quite understand what you said.
[11:00] <jgb> chalcedny: please prefix messages to me with my nick so I can spot them. you need to CD to a writeable directory before you run the command, thus cd to a directory on the usb drive
[11:01] <shadow_phoenix> hello
[11:02] <shanee> somebody know how to remove this package tftpd-hpa manually
[11:02] <maxwellian> burr_: Were you hinting earlier that you're done for the day?
[11:02] <shadow_phoenix> I'm kind of a newbie to linux, so can anyone tell me how do I make an application available to all users?
[11:02] <erUSUL> shadow_phoenix: all apps you install via normal methods are aviable to all users
[11:02] <shadow_phoenix> I downloaded the aplication and I have it on my user home and I can execute it from there, but I want to make it available to all
[11:02] <maxwellian> !info grub
[11:03] <shadow_phoenix> nope, I didn't install from .deb. There is none available
[11:03] <llutz> shadow_phoenix: copy it to /usr/local/bin
[11:03] <burr_> maxwellian: pretty much, if it happens again i'll work on a permanent fix
[11:03] <chalcedny> jgb if i copy my files to 'desktop' in the live cd - i can get to them later? or which parts will allow that?
[11:03] <erUSUL> shadow_phoenix: if it is a single binary do what llutz said
[11:03] <maxwellian> burr_: K, good luck.
[11:03] <jgb> chalcedny: "desktop" is just your home dir, so no. where does the usb drive get mounted?
[11:04] <llutz> shadow_phoenix: if it is a folder, move it too /opt and create a starter-script at /usr/local/bin for it
[11:04] <ionut> hi. does anyone knows a mp3 cutter (a good one) for ubuntu lucid lynx?
[11:04] <llutz> to*
[11:04] <chalcedny> jgb in a usb slot?
[11:04] <shadow_phoenix> ok, thank you all
[11:04] <steerio> hey all
[11:05] <erUSUL> ionut: mp3 cutter ?
[11:06] <llutz> ionut: mp3splt
[11:06] <maxwellian> Hmmm...I'm running 9.10, but I don't have grub2.
[11:06] <jgb> chalcedny: does it show up in /media/somename?
[11:06] <erUSUL> ionut: i've used shncue to split long mp3 based on cue files
[11:06] <ionut> llutz: where i can find it?
[11:06] <burr_> okay
[11:06] <llutz> info mp3splt | ionut:
[11:06] <burr_> can i make grub2 prettier?
[11:07] <llutz> !info mp3splt | ionut:
[11:07] <burr_> that might be helpful
[11:07] <maxwellian> burr_: Prettier?
[11:07] <burr_> prettier
[11:07] <burr_> like a splash screen
[11:07] <steerio> ubiquity 2.2.24 (on 10.04) exits without saying anything, except for one log line ("log-output -t ubiquity fontconfig-voodoo --auto --force --quiet"). anybody had this issue?
[11:08] <maxwellian> burr_: Are you sure you're using grub2?
[11:08] <ionut> llutz: done, thanks
[11:08] <steerio> exit code is 1
[11:08] <burr_> 10.04 uses grub2 by default, right?
[11:08] <steerio> and no stack trace or anything
[11:08] <maxwellian> burr_: Yes, I believe so.
[11:08] <steerio> burr_: yep, it does
[11:08] <burr_> then yes, im using grub2
[11:09] <engemec> BR repositories with problems? anyone knows?
[11:09] <steerio> burr_: do you have a /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[11:09] <MaRk-I> engemec: another guy had issues with br repos, try changing them
[11:09] <steerio> burr_: if so, not grub 2. if you don't, it's grub2
[11:09] <ionut> llutz: i have installed it, but now where i can find it?
[11:09] <maxwellian> burr_: Look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Splash%20Images%20and%20Theming
[11:10] <llutz> ionut: ".. command line interface to split MP3 and ..." terminal
[11:10] <chalcedny> jgb maybe ask someone who knows more than we do .. i don't think i'm going to get this tonight, i'm too tired
[11:10] <chalcedny> jgb, youv'e been extremely helpful and patient
[11:10] <engemec> MaRK-I, dou you know haw I can get sources.list from PT or other language?
[11:10] <jgb> chalcedny: sure, np
[11:11] <chalcedny> jgb i really appreciate the time you've taken and the work you did :)
[11:11] <MaRk-I> engemec: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[11:13] <xro> hi, i get banned from the debian irc and i don't know why... What can i do to get unbanned?
[11:13] <beppo> hello
[11:13] <beppo> it seems that smbd since i updated to lucid is starting before network starts at boot
[11:14] <erUSUL> xro: ask the #debian operators. we can't do anything. to get a list of said ops -> /msg chanserv access #debian list
[11:14] <beppo> so i need to restart smbd manually to get it work
[11:14] <beppo> how can i set the starting dependency?
[11:14] <beppo> for smbd
[11:14] <llutz> beppo: check the startscripts at /etc/init
[11:14] <erUSUL> beppo: i spect /etc/init/smbd.conf to express the dependency on network
[11:15] <beppo> ini/smbd ?^^
[11:15] <beppo> ah i see
[11:15] <xro> erUSUL, and how to ask him?
[11:15] <beppo> didn't realise such directory exists
[11:15] <Misterio> beppo: init.d/
[11:15] <erUSUL> xro: private chat? maybe debian has an ops channel ? dunno. ask in #freenode too
[11:16] <Lazyvee> hello everyone! I installed Ubuntu 10.04 (dual boot) and could get online and update using my LAN cable but things got more complicated when I decided to try my Atheros wifi card. Basically what happens is it detects the network but doesn't connect to the internet. I tried 'ndiswrapper -l' in the Terminal but nothing showed so I did 'lspci -nn' to find my card model and the downloaded the...
[11:16] <Lazyvee> ...driver I found on http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ndiswrapper. Now that I have this zip file I have a silly question (i'm new to Linux): how do I install the driver?
[11:16] <beppo> not init.d
[11:16] <engemec> MaRK-I, I remember thar ubuntu forum had a page with dinamic php that did give sources.list to you Ubuntu distro and language. Dou you know something about this?
[11:16] <xro> erUSUL, ok thanks for your help
[11:16] <erUSUL> !sources | engemec
[11:16] <llutz> Misterio: /etc/init for upstart-scripts, not init.d (sysv-init)
[11:16] <erUSUL> xro: no problem
[11:17] <Misterio> llutz: Ah okay
[11:17] <burr_> okay changing the splash screen just sounds really complicated
[11:17] <maxwellian> burr_: Hmmm...maybe that's just a bad source.
[11:17] <monokrome> How do I disable pulseaudio??
[11:17] <maxwellian> burr_: Let me look at some other results.
[11:18] <MaRk-I> engemec: no, sorry
[11:18] <beppo> but how can i tell smbd to start after network?
[11:19] <MaRk-I> Lazyvee: http://blog.troyastle.com/2010/05/atheros-ar5212-in-ubuntu-1004-lucid.html
[11:19] <JediMaster> I'm trying to create an xorg.conf file using Xorg -configure but it fails with: "(EE) [drm] No DRICreatePCIBusID symbol" any ideas?
[11:19] <MaRk-I> Lazyvee: also check your wireless chipset
[11:19] <engemec> MaRK-I, thanks! I guess that my server is blocking some repos. I will check with administrator. Thanks a lot.
[11:20] <MaRk-I> engemec: you can try that page and select the faster repo option takes a while but it works and yw
[11:21] <Lazyvee> MaRk-I: chipset is Atheros Communications Inc. AR241
[11:21] <beppo> erUSUL
[11:21] <Lazyvee> Atheros Communications Inc. AR2413
[11:22] <beppo> how can i add the dependency
[11:22] <erUSUL> beppo: really dunno; upstart is stil mystery ro me... seems that smbd only depends on local filesystems being present ...
[11:22] <JediMaster> has anyone had any luck setting up a USB monitor (yes it's power AND video data over USB) on ubuntu?
[11:23] <beppo> :)
[11:23] <beppo> in gentoo it's quite easy syntax^^
[11:23] <erUSUL> beppo: there is a #upstart channe. maybe there
[11:23] <beppo> ah tx fine
[11:25] <engemec> MaRK-I, 2 hours ago, everything was working! I was at home, and now, I'm at work! Because this, I guess that the main problem is the work server and some rule on squid or iptables.
[11:25] <erUSUL> beppo: see the ufw.conf it has three network envents. maybe adding those to smbd does the trick
[11:26] <engemec> MaRK-I, yesterday a I had same problem here! :) Now..... repeating.
[11:26] <MaRk-I> engemec: seems like the server where the mirror is hosted is having problems
[11:27] <MaRk-I> try a different one
[11:28] <erUSUL> engemec: changin mirror is easy in System>Admin...> Software Sources
[11:30] <xro> erUSUL, can you help me a bit more? i tried but to send a message to an admin --> /msg gravity -->  Insufficient arguments for command.
[11:30] <erUSUL> xro: /msg gravity hi! sorry to bother you.
[11:30] <erUSUL> xro: you have to include a msg
[11:31] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: I have the same chipset as you, and I'm not using ndiswrapper.
[11:31] <Aufwind> Sorry, for the question, does somone here uses a mac?
[11:31] <EtherNet> hello
[11:32] <EtherNet> Aufwind, I do, but I don't run linux on it
[11:32] <Lazyvee> maxwellian: what are you using? do you know how to make it work?
[11:32] <xro> erUSUL, thank you again....
[11:32] <zeitsofa> Aufwind: yes as design paperweight
[11:32] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: I'm using the ath5k module.  I'm on 9.10 but I hope it still works on 10.04.
[11:32] <erUSUL> xro: yw
[11:33] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: Are you comfortable with the terminal?
[11:33] <Aufwind> EtherNet: Me neither. May I ask you for something? I want to configure a gateway on a mac. But I only know the command for ubuntu. How do I translate this ubuntu command "route add -net 10.1.0.0 netmask 255.255.0.0 gw >>Here is an IP<< metric 1" into a mac command?
[11:33] <Lazyvee> also, I've just read in an Ubuntu forum that 'sudo modprobe ath5k nohwcrypt' then 'sudo sh -c "echo 'options ath5k nohwcrypt' >/etc/modprobe.d/custom-wireless.conf"' then reboot worked with my chipset
[11:33] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: I don't know what that nohwcrypt stuff is.
[11:34] <Lazyvee> maxwellian: not really, I'm new to Linux, but I'm starting to know how to use it after trying so many lines hehe
[11:34] <MaRk-I> Lazyvee: does it connect without encryption?
[11:35] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: Okay, can you do 'ifconfig' and post the output to paste.ubuntu.com?
[11:35] <alteregoa> shaka when the walls fell
[11:35] <Lazyvee> i didn't try without encryption, but someone told me it worked without encryption
[11:36] <Lazyvee> ok
[11:36] <maxwellian> MaRk-I: What do you mean, without encryption?  Without WPA?
[11:36] <beppo> erUSUL
[11:36] <beppo> thx, i will try
[11:36] <MaRk-I> maxwellian: exactly WEP, WPA, WPA2
[11:37] <maxwellian> MaRk-I: I don't have a problem with encryption using ath5k module.  Same chipset.  But I don't know if 10.04 changes things somehow.
[11:37] <beppo> erUSUL see nmbd.conf
[11:37] <beppo> there is written how
[11:38] <MaRk-I> maxwellian: it does if there's bug reports about it
[11:38] <maxwellian> MaRk-I: As always. :)
[11:39] <maxwellian> Bah.  I'm putting off dinner for this and they go and lose their connection on me. :P
[11:40] <alteregoa> maxwellian: are you familiar with the equations?
[11:41] <maxwellian> alteregoa: I'm almost afraid to ask...which equations?
[11:42] <rical> anyone know how I can capture a telnet session to a file?
[11:42] <lwp> i am a newer here
[11:43] <lwp> i am chinese
[11:43] <bullgard4> I have installed the DEB program package »linux-source«. Am I right in believing that installing the package »linux-doc« is thus dispensable?
[11:43] <Dulak> rical: telnet or ssh?  for telnet ttysnoop can do that
[11:45] <rical> Dulak: both would be good but primary telnet
[11:45] <maxwellian> bullgard4: Did you install that manually?
[11:45] <ljsoftnet> lwp: whats ur question?
[11:45] <maxwellian> ljsoftnet: Too late.
[11:45] <ljsoftnet> maxwellian: hehehe didn't see that
[11:46] <bullgard4> maxwellian: I cannot see how this affects the answer to my question.
[11:46] <Dulak> rical: not sure how to dump a ssh session, it's a psuedo tty not a real tty like telnet is
[11:47] <alteregoa> i got a question
[11:47] <Dulak> the answer is 42
[11:47] <bullgard4> !ask | alteregoa
[11:47] <alteregoa> im 17kg on the moon, how much on the earth?
[11:47] <Lazyvee> sorry, kernel panic, couldn't read your last message
[11:48] <maxwellian> bullgard4: I'm only asking for more information about your situation.  I'm surprised that you are so critical of the help you ask for.
[11:48] <bullgard4> alteregoa: Multiply by 7.
[11:48] <alteregoa> are you sure?
[11:48] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: Did you post the ifconfig output?
[11:49] <Lazyvee> ah yes, but to some url
[11:49] <alteregoa> is thre any physics channel except ubuntu?
[11:49] <bullgard4> maxwellian: I don't think that there is needed more information.
[11:49] <Lazyvee> and i can't remember the url
[11:49] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: Just do it again. :)
[11:49] <MaRk-I> Lazyvee: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[11:49] <alteregoa> software is like quantum physics, you never know if it works
[11:50] <bullgard4> !ot | alteregoa
[11:50] <Dulak> Yeah but you can apply statistics and be 99.99% confident it is indeed working.
[11:51] <Lazyvee> thank you
[11:51] <tsimpson> alteregoa: try ##physics
[11:51] <skramer_> I have a problem with WLAN stick on one of my PCs at home
[11:52] <skramer_> I get disconnected and sometimes I'm not able to re-connect unless I restart the system
[11:52] <skramer_> the stick is ZD1211rw
[11:53] <maxwellian> bullgard4: Okay, well if you wait a bit you will probably find someone who is willing to help you in exactly the way you demand to be helped.
[11:53] <Misterio> skramer_: And restarting network-manager?
[11:54] <skramer_> Misterio: CLI? or clicking the icon in panel?
[11:54] <bullgard4> maxwellian: Yes. Thank you.
[11:54] <Dulak> skramer_: replugging the usb wireless doesn't work you have to reboot?
[11:54] <skramer_> Misterio: what makes me wondering is that the LED on USB webcam is flashing while the network gets disconnected...
[11:55] <skramer_> Dulak: replugging does not work, the device will not be recocgnized then...
[11:55] <airtonix> skramer_, do you understand what it means to "restart network manager"  ?
[11:55] <skramer_> airtonix: sudo NetworkManager restart
[11:56] <airtonix> skramer_, and this does nothing ?
[11:56] <Dulak> something on your usb bus is funky, unplug everything from usb and start testing wireless with each usb component attached
[11:56] <skramer_> airtonix: nope
[11:56] <airtonix> skramer_, what driver are you using?
[11:56] <bullgard4> I have installed the DEB program package »linux-source«. Am I right in believing that installing the package »linux-doc« is thus dispensable?
[11:56] <fulldarkness>  how to partition a big file larger than 1G into two or three part?
[11:57] <skramer_> airtonix: zd1211rw
[11:57] <Jimi_Neutral> anyone know of a good irc channel to do with painintg warhammer miniatures?
[11:57] <bullgard4> fulldarkness: It depends on the file type.
[11:57] <Dulak> skramer_, replugging usb should have almost the same effect as a reboot, the fact that it doesn't means one of your usb components is doing something goofy
[11:57] <airtonix> skramer_, ok thats the name of the driver so what device is it on this page : http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/zd1211rw/devices
[11:59] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[11:59] <skramer_> airtonix: 0586:3410
[11:59] <airtonix> skramer_, try match it with the output you get from lsusb so you can provide the device id
[11:59] <airtonix> nice
[12:00] <Pindakaas> Rhythmbox stalls at 0:00 when trying to play music :(
[12:00] <airtonix> skramer_, ok this information is the minimum you should provide when asking for help with wifi devices,
[12:00] <Pindakaas> after upgrade to 10.4
[12:01] <airtonix> skramer_, at this point i would try the ndiswrapper method
[12:01] <Lazyvee> alright, so ifconfing gave this: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/LGvHvWi2
[12:02] <Dulak> I almost guarantee the problem is another usb device, not the wireless at all
[12:02] <slow-motion> hi
[12:02] <airtonix> skramer_, if you needed monitor mode my suggestion would be that you should research proven chipsets before buying them.
[12:02] <Dulak> But you know do what you like.
[12:02] <skramer_> Dulak: I suspect another USB device as well
[12:02] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: Okay, try 'sudo modprobe ath5k'
[12:03] <skramer_> Dulak: because I have exactly same stick on other PC in LAN & already switched them between PCs
[12:03] <skramer_> Dulak: but still one one PC it works & on the other I got the problems
[12:04]  * JediMaster cheers for ubuntu running on a USB monitor!
[12:04] <Dulak> skramer_: that's easy to test, just run wireless with 1 other device attached at a time till the problem repeats, whatever other device is plugged in when it happens is the problem
[12:04] <JediMaster> had to get 2.6.35 kernel though, and the touchscreen isn't calibrated (goes to top left if you touch it)
[12:05] <hrw> hi
[12:05] <steerio> hm
[12:05] <hrw> someone knows why my networkmanager on my laptop (kubuntu 10.04) decided to not manage eth0/wlan0 at all?
[12:05] <steerio> upgraded the system and ubiquity (2.2.24) still does not start. there's no error message whatsoever. anyone experienced this?
[12:05] <steerio> system is 10.04
[12:05] <zamba> hrw: it's tired of all the porn you're downloading? :)
[12:06] <hrw> zamba: nice try but thats not that D:
[12:06] <skramer_> Dulak: hmm... perhaps it is the Wacom tablet since the problem existed before I installed the MS webcam..
[12:06] <skramer_> Dulak: don't think it is the keyboard...
[12:06] <zamba> hrw: hehe, mine quit for that reason :)
[12:06] <airtonix> skynet
[12:06] <Dulak> hrw: did you mess with /etc/network/interfaces at all?
[12:06] <steerio> ubiquity is python, so it should die with a stack trace, shouldn't it?
[12:06]  * rautamiekka rautamiekka came back
[12:07] <hrw> Dulak: nope
[12:07]  * karmic-koala says hi to everyone
[12:07] <hrw> "dhclient eth0" works so I have network there
[12:07] <maxwellian> hrw: You say "decided" past tense.  Is this a recent change?
[12:07] <Dulak> hrw: check that file any interface listed in there is not managed by networkmanager that's all I got
[12:08] <hrw> maxwellian: I booted that laptop first time since uds
[12:09] <hrw> Dulak: only loopback in /e/n/interfaces
[12:09] <maxwellian> hrw: Sorry, uds?
[12:10] <xro> hi, i would like to add a new HD on on of my server... (move /var on the new HD)... can you check the way i will use? --> http://dpaste.com/215037/
[12:10] <hrw> maxwellian: Ubuntu Developers Summit - was in start of may
[12:10] <hrw> http://pastebin.com/cM8ZQqr4 is nm-tool output
[12:10] <JediMaster> can anyone give me a hand calibrating a touchscreen?
[12:10] <hrw> JediMaster: use xinput-calibrator (no idea is it in ubuntu)
[12:11] <Lazyvee> keep freezing but i'm back again, so here's the resutl for ifconfig: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/LGvHvWi2
[12:11] <JediMaster> hrw, I can see xinput, but no -calibrator
[12:12] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: I saw that thanks.  Can you please run 'sudo modprobe ath5k'
[12:12] <hrw> JediMaster: http://github.com/tias/xinput_calibrator
[12:12] <maxwellian> hrw: Did you install anything during the summit?
[12:12] <erUSUL> xro: why ext3 and no ext4 ? the move data part does not looks right. you would en up with /var/var/...
[12:13] <hrw> maxwellian: maybe. now I am upgrading it to maverick and will check how it will work
[12:13] <Lazyvee> maxwellian: it gives... nothing
[12:13] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: That's okay.  Now do ifconfig and repost.
[12:13] <xro> erUSUL, my server use ext3 now... it's rigth move /var in / --> /var....   and the part in the fstab is rigth?
[12:14] <maxwellian> hrw: Check /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf
[12:14] <hrw> ok
[12:14] <erUSUL> xro: yes. try to use uuid instead of /dev/sdxx
[12:15] <erUSUL> !uuid
[12:15] <hrw> maxwellian: http://pastebin.com/SQnJ9ZhJ
[12:15] <Lazyvee> maxwellian: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/hjq3GTA8
[12:15] <maxwellian> hrw: Just going off a forum posting, changing that managed=false to true might help.
[12:16] <hrw> maxwellian: thx, will check after upgrade
[12:16] <maxwellian> hrw: Look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7041625&postcount=4
[12:17] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: Hmmm, that modprobe didn't seem to make a difference.
[12:18] <hrw> ~hail apt-cacher-ng
[12:18] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: Can you double check the modprobe worked by typing 'lsmod | grep ath'
[12:20] <maxwellian> hrw: I'm not familiar with that, what does it do?
[12:20] <hrw> maxwellian: its proxy for APT
[12:21] <maxwellian> hrw: Neat, is it easy to set up?
[12:21] <hrw> maxwellian: I have few machines + few chroots
[12:21] <hrw> maxwellian: easy
[12:21] <barfster> I installed postfixadmin and when I do postconf -a it tells me dovecot and cyrus, but not dovecot SASL, how to fix?
[12:21] <tesla555> hi all...can anyone tell me how to parse a HTML content with unix command(shell)...like i have a html file....i need to parse the content of <td> tag.....
[12:22] <maxwellian> hrw: Cool.  So it makes downloading software on your several machines a bit quicker, I suspect. :P
[12:22] <erUSUL> xro: step 14 i would do with pax ( sudo aptitude install pax ) « cd /mnt/first/var/ && sudo pax -rw . /mnt/new/ »
[12:22] <hrw> maxwellian: the only thing which suxx is 100Mbps ethernet in my laptop... previous one had 1GbE
[12:22] <hrw> maxwellian: chroots on proxy machine reports even 23MB/s download
[12:22] <barfster> tesla555: pipe it through tidy, then parse it using XSLT
[12:22] <maxwellian> hrw: Wow!  Awesome. :)
[12:22] <hrw> maxwellian: also lot of bandwith saving
[12:23] <erUSUL> tesla555: you can not parse html with unix text utilities... you can sort of make a hack but...
[12:23] <Pindakaas> lol, culprit was pidgin embedded video plugin
[12:23] <wookienz> hi erUSUL me again!
[12:23] <xro> erUSUL, is it a better way? and why?
[12:23] <maxwellian> hrw: How does it deal with something like apt-get update?
[12:23] <maxwellian> hrw: Shouldn't that always be fresh, not cached?
[12:23] <erUSUL> xro: pax is efficient your mv command would have got you /var/var/as i said
[12:23] <erUSUL> wookienz: hi
[12:24] <tesla555> barfster: i get content of a php page using curl command...so i need to parse it...can i call tidy in a .sh file
[12:24] <hrw> maxwellian: it checks does it need to be fetched iirc
[12:24] <xro> erUSUL, ok... i'll try do it now... thank you
[12:24] <maxwellian> hrw: Hmm, okay thanks.  I'm sure there are docs on it, I'd just not heard of it before.  Thanks for the tip.
[12:25] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: Still there?
[12:25] <wookienz> erUSUL: not sure if you remember - i was having raid 0 issues - using a fakeraid bios build instad of software raid.still no luck getting it up and rnning but i know alot more about GPT! bought my self a 1TB HDD and have dd the two raid 0 drives across to it so i am abel to fruck with it a bit more. if you are keen!
[12:25] <tesla555> awk is quite confusing though
[12:25] <jolaren> Up in the right corner, in the notification area.. I have the letter thing, which everyone has. I've removed Evolution but the marks inside the notification letter doesnt get away.. I dont want it to list e-mail. how do i remove it
[12:25] <Lazyvee> back
[12:26] <erUSUL> wookienz: that gdisk utility couldn't fix the disk/partition table ?
[12:26] <dannbrown> hi
[12:26] <wookienz> erUr i didnt end up trying it.
[12:26] <rautamiekka> !hi | dannbrown
[12:26] <wookienz> erUSUL: i didnt end up trying it.
[12:27] <dannbrown> anyone can install squid on lucid or ubuntu 10.4?
[12:27] <rautamiekka> dannbrown: 10.04 and Lucid are the one and same thing.
[12:27] <erUSUL> wookienz: now that you have a dd image you can try on it? without fear of loosing any data ?
[12:27] <dannbrown> yes u rite rautamiekka
[12:27] <Lazyvee> maxwellina: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/EkayPFpt
[12:27] <rical> If I wanted to have 5 terminals on my screen with no "dead space" in between or menues etc. what woud be the preffered way? fluxbox?
[12:27] <Samara> is there any material that i can read to configure evolution to work with hotmail??
[12:27] <wookienz> erUSUL: yup. fill your boots!
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> jolaren:  perhaps --> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/03/how-to-remove-social-network-features.html
[12:27] <dannbrown> can u help me?
[12:28] <jolaren> Dr_Willis: Only the Mail container
[12:28] <rautamiekka> dannbrown: Just wanted to clear that up ;) I'll check on Squid, but it's new to me, so I doubt I can be of help.
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> rical:  'terminator' can   tile terminals inside a single window.
[12:28] <erUSUL> rical: terminator ?
[12:28] <Samara> is there any material that i can read to configure evolution to work with hotmail??
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> jolaren:  its connected to teh volume thing. You can remove teh package. or remove teh applet and have the mail + vol thing gone. Other then that. Not sure.
[12:28] <dannbrown> oh ok rautamiekka:)thanks
[12:29] <erUSUL> rical: if you want that done by the wm look for a tiling window manager ( xomonad awosome ion etc ..) fluxbox is not a tiling wm
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> jolaren:  the comments at that url used to have a lot of other neat info.. but it seems all teh comments have vanished. :(
[12:30] <Dunas> How's flash on x64 at this point?
[12:30] <erUSUL> Samara: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/send-and-receive-your-hotmail-messages-through-evolution.html
[12:30] <amokpaule> Hello, im on ubuntu lucid using xchat for irc. i want to hide join part messages, in the xchat faq it says i have to right click a channel tab then there should be a submenue to hide join part messages but i dont have that sub menu.
[12:30] <erUSUL> Dunas: as bad as in 32 bits but not worse ;)
[12:30] <rical> erUSUL: Dr_Willis termiantor looks promesing
[12:30] <rautamiekka> dannbrown: From your question I understood you and possibly many others can't get it installed on Lucid unlike on prev' Ubuntus ?
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> rical:  i use it all the time. The latest versions also have some new features
[12:31] <Digital_rouge> hello  flash not working in firefox  366 in ubuntu 10.4  flash will play sound but no picture
[12:31] <Lazyvee> maxwellian: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/EkayPFpt
[12:31] <Dunas> erUSUL: Well, last time I checked it was worse (no mouseclicks registering, and constantly dying). What about the ATI drivers for the 57xx series?
[12:31] <dannbrown> whoaa..awesome.u understood my problem just less in minute:)
[12:31] <erUSUL> Samara: scrap that. now hotmail supports pop3 itself? no?
[12:31] <dannbrown> thanks sir rautamiekka
[12:32] <rautamiekka> dannbrown: Sounds like the usual Lucid problems :(
[12:32] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: Yup, saw it, thanks.  It does help when you get the nick right, sorry it's a little long. :)
[12:32] <Samara> i dont know...
[12:32] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: I'm not sure why it's not working at this point.  If I remember, all I had to do was modprobe the ath5k module.
[12:32] <Samara> ive tried to configure, but it doesnt work
[12:32] <Lazyvee> maxwellian: haha sorry about that, I'll be more careful not to mistype people's nick :-)
[12:33] <napster> Two of my keyborad buttons are not working! What could be wrong?
[12:33] <erUSUL> Samara: http://linuxowns.wordpress.com/2009/03/04/setting-up-evolution-mail-gmail-and-hotmail/
[12:33] <Samara> so, thanks!!!!
[12:33] <napster> The are double quotes and semicolon buttons
[12:33] <erUSUL> Samara: that's looks more up to date
[12:33] <napster> The laptop is TOSHIBA l510
[12:33] <dannbrown> yes i found that all the same in google search:(
[12:33] <rautamiekka> dannbrown: Have you already tried to install Squid ?
[12:33] <dannbrown> no hope
[12:34] <Lazyvee> maxwellian: I don't know
[12:34] <dannbrown> yes i have
[12:34] <Samara> erUSUL, ahh, ok thank you
[12:34] <napster> Is anyone here is free to try figure out whats wrong?
[12:34] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: Try 'iwlist wlan0 scanning'
[12:34] <napster> please
[12:34] <iflema> amokpaule right click on the channel in the channel list and select 'settings' then 'hide join/part'     may be different for xchat-gnome. There are two xchats available
[12:34] <dannbrown> sir rautamiekka,i just try to stop access porn site and all things about porn
[12:34] <dannbrown> and i thought it will be better if i use squid
[12:35] <amokpaule> iflema, ty :)
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> napster:  check to see if they work in the console.  alt-ctrl-f1,   use alt-ctrl-f7 to get back to X.
[12:36] <napster> Dr_Willis: No! I tried already! -(
[12:36] <jolaren> Dr_Willis: to bad :-) I'll file a launchpad bug
[12:37] <Lazyvee> maxwellian: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/tavWAMtA
[12:37] <rautamiekka> dannbrown: Simply put, you want to _block_ access to porn sites totally so that the user receives something like "access denied" upon trying to get to one ?
[12:38] <napster> Dr_Willis: Could that be an error with the installation? Can I try reinstalling?
[12:38] <dannbrown> yes that all i meant sir rautamiekka,and i want to block all porn keyword
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> dannbrown:  ive seen some firefox extensions/tools to let you do that. Or theres some other proxys/tools
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> napster:  no idea really. Try some live cd's and see if it works for them. What kind of keyboard it is? american? british?
[12:38] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: Your card is detecting a wireless network named "bbox2-ac0e", is that your network?
[12:38] <rautamiekka> Dr_Willis: He wants to use Squid to block access.
[12:39] <napster> Dr_Willis: USA
[12:39] <rical> Dr_Willis: Is it possible to split in a non symetrical pattern?
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> Squid is a 'cacheing' proxy  - i dident think it did 'filtering'
[12:39] <Lazyvee> maxwellian: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/tavWAMtA but i can't see my wifi modem router's SSID there
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> unless its gotten a lot of new features since i last used it. :)
[12:39] <Zahnarzt> Using Xchat. How do I get nordic fonts to be compatible to users with the Mirc program?
[12:39] <dannbrown> can u share those add ons or tools with me sir Dr_Willis
[12:40] <Lazyvee> maxwellian: not my network, my neighbour's network. that's strange because I tried this before and I could see my SSID as well
[12:40] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: Are you sure your network is up?
[12:40] <wookienz> erUSUL: gdisk doesnt give me much more as it says that oe of the dirves doesnt have a GPT and tries to comvert its MBR to GPT - which is probably not what i want. As far as i understand each of the drives may have a different partition appearance for a raid 0 array
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> dannbrown:  nope. I just rember seeing the firefox extension/feature once at the FF addons site.  It had some sort of 'faimly safety' feature. and was admin'd by a master user/web interface
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> dannbrown:  i tried it ages ago and diont even rember its name'
[12:41] <Zahnarzt> Also, I have a comp. downstairs with P2 celeron (300 Mhz) and 128 mb ram. Any linux version that would be suitable to run on it?
[12:41] <Lazyvee> maxwellian: I'll reconnect
[12:41] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: Also try 'sudo ifconfig ath0 up'
[12:42] <fudanchii> # Appears as SCOTTY
[12:42] <rautamiekka> dannbrown: http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch32_:_Controlling_Web_Access_with_Squid <- gives me the impression you can use diff' keywords to block sites. However, I know to tell there's loads of porn sites which have no relating words to porn, thus unless you actually find perfect keywords, there's --s-o-m-e-- sites accessable.
[12:42] <dannbrown> lol:)
[12:43] <dannbrown> but thanks to sir Dr_willis for ur response
[12:43] <rical> Dr_Willis: can I stor my terminator configuration somehow?
[12:43] <rical> so that I don't have to split and remove the scrollbars every time
[12:44] <rautamiekka> dannbrown: http://www.faqs.org/docs/securing/chap28sec231.html <- This tut' looks like something altho' it's aimed for RedHad Linux. Give it a shot.
[12:44] <NightKhaos> Umm... why are there four floodbots? *confused*
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> rical:  it has settings that get saved.. unless you want to clarify what you mean
[12:45] <Lazyvee> maxwellian: I typed 'sudo ifconfig ath0 up" and it said ERROR - no such device
[12:45] <LjL> NightKhaos: yes, there are multiple ones for redudancy and to be more effective
[12:45] <maxwellian> NightKhaos: The Four Horsemen.
[12:45] <slinker1> hot and cold running floodbots maybe?
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> rical:  http://www.webupd8.org/2010/07/terminator-094-adds-watch-terminals-for.html
[12:45] <giGgLes> hi guys
[12:45] <dannbrown> thanks sir rautamiekka
[12:45] <Kilowatt> Anyone know why the add printer button is not working (using 10.04)
[12:45] <MaRk-I> dannbrown: IPblock uses peerguardian, also blocks adult websites
[12:45] <rautamiekka> NightKhaos: I guess the others joined to relieve some workload from the only one.
[12:46] <gidna> Hi
[12:46] <gidna> How can I download an wall site with its contenent?
[12:46] <Joshmuffin> hey, can anyone help me setup dual monitors with a ati card
[12:47] <MaRk-I> Lazyvee: your card is wlan0
[12:47] <Lazyvee> maxwellian: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/Cw3Cc2Gz 2nd SSID is mine, so it's working now
[12:47] <maxwellian> MaRk-I: That was per my suggestion.
[12:48] <dannbrown> hey thanks sir mark_i
[12:48] <maxwellian> MaRk-I: On my machine (same chipset) the interface is called ath0, so I was hoping that would help.
[12:48] <Lazyvee> maxwellian: I think so, as I'm using LAN cable to get online and left wifi on
[12:49] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: Okay, so can you try to connect to the wireless?  What happens?
[12:49] <Lazyvee> maxwellian: wireless is on but as I got online using the ethernet cable i think that's what i'm using
[12:51] <wookienz> if i dd an OS  hdd (64GB SSD) to another HDD parition, does that receiving partition have to be the same size? what if i want to copy to back with that work?
[12:51] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: You're connected to the network via wireless?  Do you see little bars in the top right corner?
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> wookienz:  you may want to 'dd' it to a file if you want to 'archive' it . theres other tools that can also do that task.
[12:53] <Lazyvee> maxwellian: no, I see 2 arrows, the first going up and the other going down (wired connection) but i'm connected with the wireless as well, at least to my LAN
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> wookienz:  you can dd one hd to another of larger size and it 'should' work. but dding it BACK can be an issue. (thus the use of a file)
[12:53] <Dreaman> хоп :)
[12:53] <wookienz> Dr_Willis: ok thanks.
[12:53] <MaRk-I> dannbrown: this is far easier http://www.kabatology.com/06/23/block-adult-web-content-with-opendns-familyshield-no-install/
[12:54] <Lazyvee> maxwellian: if I turn off the wired connection i might lose the online connection
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> wookienz:  also using dd with a hard drive PARTITION is  more commonly done to 'archive' a partition.  unless you really want a clone of the whole hard drive - including  the mbnr, swap, and otehr partitions in one swoop
[12:54] <dannbrown> i cant use that sir mark-i ,since my laptop connection is dynamic
[12:55] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: How do you know that you're connected to the wireless?
[12:55] <wookienz> Dr_Willis: yes i want to image the whole drive so i can switch to a different OS for a short time to try and fix my fakeraid issue, then go back to ubuntu
[12:56] <MaRk-I> dannbrown: just add the DNS address to your laptop ;)  besides you can add that to your router
[12:57] <dannbrown> ok sir mark-i,i'll try later:).thanks for ur info sir!i appreciate that
[12:57] <MaRk-I> yw
[12:58] <Lazyvee> maxwellian: because when i left click on the up&down arrow icon i can see my wifi network's name and "disconnect" below it
[12:58] <wookienz> can fakeraid be turned into software raid?
[12:58] <Lazyvee> maxwellian: same for Auto eth0
[12:58] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: Can you perhapes right click on the name and get info about the connection?
[12:58] <bullgard4> I have installed the DEB program package »linux-source«. Am I right in believing that installing the package »linux-doc« is thus dispensable?
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> I thought a fakeraid was a software raid.. but i dont use raids any more
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> !raid
[12:59] <wookienz> Dr_Willis: from what i understand fakeraid is from bios controller chips and the like, and software raid is through nix sftware using mdadm etc
[13:00] <Lazyvee> maxwellian:info about the connection: there's 2 tabs, the 1st for Auto eth0 (default) and the other for my wireless network
[13:00] <ingenius> Hi ,, where I can find the option to hidde the grub boot menu ?
[13:01] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: Do you see an IP address for the wireless?
[13:01] <rautamiekka> ingenius: Depends on are you using GRUB Legacy or GRUB 2
[13:01] <ingenius> I don't know .. im using 10.04 :)
[13:01] <ingenius> default instalation
[13:02] <Lazyvee> maxwellian: Auto eth0 uses the typical IP 192.168.x.x and the wifi... 10.42.43.1 now that's the part I don't understand, even I input 192.168.x.x in the wireless connection settings it always displays 10.42.43.1
[13:02] <chandru_in> how to issue a /quit in empathy?
[13:02] <rautamiekka> ingenius: If you made pure installation, it's using 2. If it's upgrade from prev' Ubuntu, it's most Legacy unless you explicitly told it to install 2
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> ingenius:  thats grub2 then.
[13:02] <ingenius> yes grub2 its a pure installation
[13:02] <rautamiekka> ingenius: I dig up that info from my Ubuntu Server, just a sec.
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> ingenius:  see the file /etc/default/grub for the 'hide' options
[13:03] <Lazyvee> maxwellian: and the wireless is connected to wanl0
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> !grub2 | ingenius
[13:03] <Lazyvee> maxwellian: and the wireless is connected to wlan0*
[13:03] <robthebob> just upgraded to lucid, cant seem to add just a volume icon without this new envelope thing. any ideas?
[13:04] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: I don't know how you're trying to specify the IP, but it's okay for your router to assign an address in the 10.*.*.* range.
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> robthebob:   they are the same applet. you can remove them both from the panel. and use the   gnome-volume-control-applet    if you just want a volume applet.
[13:05] <AhmedBH> Hi all, I am on lucid and i accidently deleted the Default cursor cause i was removing additional cursor and themes so its gone now, how do i get it back
[13:05] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: The specific address you got seems weird...mine is usually 10.0.1.8 or something like that.
[13:05] <eoke> robthebob: I think it's something like removing the package "indicator-messages".
[13:05] <wookienz> Dr_Willis: can i dd my OS drive while the OS is running?
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> wookienz:  short answer.. You dont.
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> wookienz:  use a live cd. theres several out with many disk imageing/recovery/restore tools included
[13:06] <wookienz> why?
[13:06] <wookienz> ok.
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> wookienz:   think about it.. :)
[13:06] <chandru_in> Doesn't empathy support all IRC commands?
[13:06] <robthebob> Dr_Willis, right, that isn't in the menu though when i try to add applets
[13:06] <Pici> chandru_in: no. Empathy has limited IRC support.
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> wookienz:  you are dding a drive.. somthing writes to the first part of the hd. (a log or somthing) and then your dd image.. is then wrong.
[13:06] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: Anyway, if you have an IP address, then try disabling the ethernet.
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> robthebob:  its not an applet you add its a app you run.
[13:07] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: Good luck!
[13:07] <Lazyvee> maxwellian: I think I always get 10.42.43.1 with the wireless
[13:07] <eoke> robthebob: Yeah that works but you'll have to log out and back in again or remove and readd the indicator applet before you see the change.
[13:07] <chandru_in> Pici: Any suggestion for better IRC client for gnome?
[13:07] <Pici> chandru_in: xchat is quite good
[13:07] <robthebob> i don't understand the connection between sound and this email/chatting mixture icon
[13:07] <robthebob> why are they so inextricably linked?
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> robthebob:  they are the same 'applet' its a combo applet.
[13:07] <Lazyvee> let's see
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> robthebob:  at least thats how i see it work
[13:08] <robthebob> (except the two icons have a massive amount of wasted space between them unlike other icons)
[13:08] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: You might lose your current connections.  You might need to reconnect to the wireless.
[13:08] <gracz> hi to all :D
[13:08] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: But try to go to a web page or something after disabling the ethernet.
[13:09] <robthebob> so the long and the short of it is that an average user has no way of removing the envelope thing without also losing the ability to modify the volume
[13:09] <eoke> robthebob: To get rid of it execute "sudo aptitude remove indicator-messages" log out and back in again.
[13:09] <robthebob> strange
[13:09] <AhmedBH> can i run IMVU under wine ?
[13:09] <rautamiekka> ingenius: If I remember correctly without making a search, opening up "/etc/default/grub" and editing line "GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true" to be exactly that way and then running "sudo update-grub", the menu should become invisible again.
[13:09] <robthebob> eoke, that will remove only the envelope?
[13:09] <Lazyvee> maxwellian: I'll turn off both connections and see if if works
[13:09] <gracz> (I'm sorry for my poor english) :)
[13:09] <eoke> robthebob: Correct
[13:09] <robthebob> ok i'll try that thanks
[13:09] <Misterio> AhmedBH: Wine has its own public database
[13:09] <eoke> robthebob: Np
[13:10] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: You'll need to turn on the wireless, obviously.
[13:10] <AhmedBH> misterio: sucks
[13:10] <AhmedBH> misterio: thanks tho
[13:10] <ingenius> rautamiekka: you right ... sorry by my stupid question but i have mora than 12 yours in the computer
[13:10] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: But I'm suggesting turn off both, then re-enable the wireless.
[13:10] <gracz> why archive tar.gz when i try open it
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> eoke:  :) i pasted a url to him eralier that said exactly that...
[13:10] <gracz> displays in console:
[13:10] <AnxiousNut> what package does totem need to be able to play all/most codecs?
[13:10] <AhmedBH> misterio: whats that other program which also is like wine and lets you run games on linux too like WoW
[13:10] <maxwellian> gracz: Don't paste here.
[13:11] <gracz> maxwellian it is only two lines
[13:11] <rautamiekka> AnxiousNut: On Ubuntu, install "ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[13:11] <eoke> Dr_Willis: Sorry, it took two responses from me as well.  I guess some people struggle with the speed and flow of messages in the channel.
[13:11] <bullgard4> I have installed the DEB program package »linux-source«. Am I right in believing that installing the package »linux-doc« is thus dispensable?
[13:11] <robthebob> eoke, thanks that worked
[13:11] <gracz> gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--crc error
[13:11] <gracz> tar: Child returned status 1
[13:11] <eoke> robthebob: You're welcome I'm glad it's sorted for you.
[13:11] <gracz> tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
[13:11] <gracz> it is all
[13:11] <AnxiousNut> rautamiekka, sorry that'll install a lot of packages, i need some specific package, installing on an old pc!
[13:11] <gracz> 3 linnes :)
[13:12] <barfster> Possible to upgrade: # cat /etc/issue
[13:12] <barfster> Ubuntu 7.10 \n \l
[13:12] <barfster> ?
[13:12] <rautamiekka> AnxiousNut: Oh, okey. I check it up for you. Which Ubuntu is it ?
[13:12] <robthebob> although i think i will use this gnome-volume thing anyway as the new widget is too annoying (regression in loss of ability to specify a particular volume immediately without dragging)
[13:12] <AnxiousNut> rautamiekka, it's lubuntu 10.04 with totem
[13:12] <maxwellian> gracz: Looks like you might have a corrupt file.
[13:12] <gracz> And it is egoboo 2.5.7 package
[13:13] <eoke> barfster: It's not really clear what you're asking.
[13:13] <maxwellian> gracz: What command are you using?
[13:13] <barfster> dist-upgrade
[13:13] <barfster> eoke: 7.10 -> 10.04?
[13:13] <gracz> maxwelian I'm tryining graphical first, but it not work.
[13:14] <gracz> Second i'/m tryning
[13:14] <gracz> with console
[13:15] <gracz> tar -jxvf
[13:15] <eoke> barfster: Not sure I typically do a fresh install.
[13:15] <maxwellian> gracz: -j is for bzip compression.
[13:15] <maxwellian> gracz: Is it compressed with gzip or bzip?
[13:15] <gracz> maxwellian gzip
[13:16] <maxwellian> gracz: 'tar -xzf file.tar.gz'
[13:16] <tomatto_> please, is some application for netbook manage power?
[13:16] <Joshmuffin> can anyone help me setting up dual monitors with a ati card? ubuntu 10.04
[13:16] <rautamiekka> AnxiousNut: I've always installed the following packages along with their dependencies and stuff worked; Ubuntu auto-installs others when needed, anyway. gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse libavcodec-extra-52 libmp4v2-0
[13:17] <halmx> ciao
[13:17] <amokpaule> How can i restart all my sounds in lucid?
[13:18] <maxwellian> gracz: What happened?
[13:18] <bullgard4> !sound | amokpaule
[13:18] <AnxiousNut> rautamiekka, thanks a lot, i really appreciate it
[13:19] <gracz> maxwellian
[13:19] <rautamiekka> AnxiousNut: Come back for more help when that arises :)
[13:19] <gracz> indentical message (only in console)
[13:19] <gracz> maxwellian
[13:19] <amokpaule> My sound just crashed after i tried to lauch a dvd it gives me wird sounds now so i thought i can just restart my sound system over the terminal insted of y reboot
[13:19] <maxwellian> gracz: Okay.  Type 'file filename.tar.gz'
[13:20] <maxwellian> gracz: Make sure it says 'gzip compressed data'
[13:20] <bullgard4> Joshmuffin: Start by reading 'man xrandr'.
[13:21] <michalmajitelweb> good
[13:21] <gracz> " file egoboo-2.7.4.tar.gz
[13:21] <gracz> egoboo-2.7.4.tar.gz: gzip compressed data, was "egoboo-2.7.4.tar", from FAT filesystem (MS-DOS, OS/2, NT), last modified: Sun Jul 19 11:13:35 2009
[13:21] <gracz> "
[13:21] <ussaine> salut
[13:21] <michalmajitelweb> salut
[13:21] <maxwellian> gracz: Where did you get the file from?
[13:22] <microx> halo
[13:22] <maxwellian> gracz: Give me the link.
[13:22] <bullgard4> tomatto_: As far as I know, NetworkManager works in netbooks also.
[13:22] <michalmajitelweb> čau
[13:22] <gracz> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/egoboo/egoboo-2.7.4.tar.gz
[13:22] <tomatto_> michalmajitelweb: cest
[13:23] <hrazda> halo
[13:23] <MaRk-I> tomatto_: system/preferences/power management
[13:23] <hrazda> halo
[13:23] <tomatto_> bullgard4: networkmanager for manage power? i mean cpu freq...etc for greater battery keep
[13:23] <michalmajitelweb> tomatto:co dělaš
[13:23] <maxwellian> gracz: Try downloading it again.  It may have gotten corrupted in the transfer.
[13:24] <tomatto_> michalmajitelweb: co myslis?
[13:24] <michalmajitelweb> hm
[13:24] <maxwellian> gracz: If that doesn't work, then apparently the copy on sourceforge is corrupt.
[13:24] <MaRk-I> tomatto_: for cpu you can right-click the taskbar and add cpu frequency monitor also
[13:24] <michalmajitelweb> tomatto: nemáš program abych mohl nor?
[13:25] <bullgard4> tomatto_: I see. I cannot recommend you websites for ACPI tuning in English. Sorry.
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> !info egoboo
[13:25] <ooga> a
[13:25] <max> halo
[13:25] <gracz> maxwelian
[13:25] <Lazyvee> maxwellian: I'm back, with LAN cable! Wireless didn't work
[13:26] <gracz> I'm downloaded againt
[13:26] <gracz> yesterday I'm it downloadek.
[13:26] <halmx> hallo
[13:26] <michalmajitelweb> no
[13:27] <michalmajitelweb> hallo
[13:27] <michalmajitelweb> my mike
[13:27] <gracz> But it'is displays this errors messages
[13:27] <gracz> and I deleted it today and downloadek again
[13:27] <UbiNerD> Hi, I downloaded an iso, but when I try to open or burn ubuntu recognize him. And if I do properties on iso, I get to see this: application / octet-stream, while an iso's .. anyone a tip how I can open?
[13:27] <michalmajitelweb> no
[13:27] <gracz> and displayes identical messages
[13:27] <gracz> I'think it is corrupted file on sourceforge
[13:27] <tomatto_> bullgard4: in what language?
[13:28] <michalmajitelweb> www.microxweb.wbs.cz
[13:28] <tomatto_> michalmajitelweb: abys mohl co?
[13:28] <bullgard4> tomatto_: I could advise you in German.
[13:28] <tomatto_> bullgard4: i chech it
[13:28] <michalmajitelweb> tomatto : instalovat normalni aplikace ve formatu exe
[13:28] <lvh> hey
[13:29] <lvh> does anyone know where the ubuntu test page for printers lives, by any chance?
[13:29] <bullgard4> tomatto_: I do not understand. Please say it in other words.
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> UbiNerD:   Clarify what the problem is? You are saying you CANT burn it?
[13:29] <berkes> Is there some project, app or tool that allows me to start a group of applications/documents at once. Selectable from a list of "sessions" or "project".
[13:29] <tomatto_> michalmajitelweb: wine
[13:29] <tomatto_> bullgard4: give it in german, i hope i can handle it
[13:29] <michalmajitelweb> tomatto:poslal bys my nato URL adresu Dík
[13:30] <tomatto_> michalmajitelweb: jestli mas ubuntu tak si to stahni v repozitari...sudo apt-get install wine nebo pres spravce softwaru
[13:30] <UbiNerD> Dr_Willis: I want to burn an ISO, but it does not work, because Ubuntu did not recognize as ISO
[13:30] <io> !english
[13:30] <tomatto_> io: sorry
[13:31] <michalmajitelweb> tomatto:já mam xubuntu tam to teš jde stahnout
[13:31] <io> berkes: What sort of applications are you looking at launching? Firefox, Pidgin and similar?
[13:31] <Digital_rouge> hey guys I have an interusting problem I think you can solve quick can ne one help me with flash videos?
[13:31] <Misterio> !german | michalmajitelweb
[13:31] <gracz> bye
[13:31] <bullgard4> tomatto_: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Strom_sparen
[13:31] <Lazyvee> maxwellian: I'm back, with LAN cable! Wireless didn't work
[13:31] <maxwellian> gracz: I also get an error with that file.
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> UbiNerD:  check the md5sum of the iso file.
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> !md5 | UbiNerD
[13:31] <Digital_rouge> yellow?
[13:31] <maxwellian> gracz: Send them an e-mail.
[13:32] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: What happened?  You were able to connect to the network, but...?
[13:32] <olskolirc> I'm trying to turn this .chm file into a .pdf with no luck.  I installed chm2pdf - Anyone?
[13:32] <berkes> io, gedit (with certain docs) a terminal (in the projects folder), git-cola, firefox, epiphany, tomboy.
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> olskolirc:  whats not working about it?
[13:32] <gracz> maxwellian ok. bye :)
[13:32] <tic^> !flash | Digital_rouge
[13:33] <io> berkes: If your looking for a simple way to launch applications at the same time then writing a simple bash script like http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/459805/, saving it as start_apps.sh (or similar) and linking it to the main menu bar would suffice.
[13:33] <olskolirc> its still a .chm file Dr_Willis with errors
[13:33] <Digital_rouge> running ubuntu 10.04 and firefox 366 youtube videos will play sound but no picture but youtube videos on other web sites will play just fine, I think it has to do with embeded files
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> olskolirc:  you sure you are using the program properly?
[13:33] <berkes> io: basically, I work on several projects during the week, and I'd like to have a startup-profile that launches all apps and docs with that project: one per project.
[13:33] <olskolirc> probably not Dr_Willis can you throw a girl a line?
[13:34] <olskolirc> I promise I'll keep using it :-)
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> olskolirc:  'man chm2pdf'
[13:34] <Digital_rouge> running ubuntu 10.04 and firefox 366 youtube videos will play sound but no picture but youtube videos on other web sites will play just fine, I think it has to do with embeded files, how do I make youtube videos play as embeded?
[13:34] <napster> Dr_Willis: No hope! Two of my keys are not working with live CD too...! What to do next?
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> olskolirc:  ive not used  it in ages.
[13:34] <olskolirc> I rtfm :-)
[13:34] <berkes> io: my current bash script does not really suffice, since i need to create one for each project :(
[13:34] <bullgard4> I have installed the DEB program package »linux-source«. Am I right in believing that installing the package »linux-doc« is thus dispensable?
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> napster:  try some other live cds - could be the keyoard is broken
[13:34] <olskolirc> wish I could find a gui for this Dr_Willis
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> napster:  try a external.different keyboard also.
[13:34] <Lazyvee> maxwellian: yes, I was able to connect to my network, in the connection info i can see an IP, broadcast adress and 255.255.255.0 adn primary DNS i entered, but once I start Firefox or I want to try to update Ubuntu, nothing happens
[13:34] <napster> Dr_Willis: ok
[13:34] <MaRk-I> olskolirc: system/preferences/startup appliations   go to options tab and select "Automatically remember running applications when loggin out"
[13:34] <io> berkes: Ah, I see your problem. Having <project>.sh a few times is to hard?
[13:35] <MaRk-I> applications**
[13:35] <cew_aneh> ae...........
[13:35] <Digital_rouge> running ubuntu 10.04 and firefox 366 youtube videos will play sound but no picture but youtube videos on other web sites will play just fine, I think it has to do with embeded files
[13:35] <olskolirc> how does that help MaRk-I
[13:35] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: Wait, you entered that stuff yourself?
[13:35] <cew_aneh> ae..........
[13:35] <MaRk-I> it opens the applications you had open when you logged out
[13:35] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: You entered your own primary dns, etc?
[13:35] <Lazyvee> maxwellian: I tried without, then with, same result
[13:35] <Digital_rouge> @ubortu running ubuntu 10.04 and firefox 366 youtube videos will play sound but no picture but youtube videos on other web sites will play just fine, I think it has to do with embeded files
[13:36] <berkes> io, actually, I have 23 of them now. And yes, it is quite a PIAS to manage them backwards compatible (= consistent)
[13:36] <olskolirc> MaRk-I, I want to convert chm to pdf
[13:36] <MaRk-I> olskolirc: oops sorry wrong person
[13:36] <MaRk-I> :P
[13:36] <olskolirc> np MaRk-I
[13:37] <olskolirc> !ubottu chm
[13:37] <Pici> !info chm2pdf | olskolirc
[13:37] <berkes> io, so whether it is bash, or a tool, with or without gui does not really matter. Problem is mostly that such a script or tool needs to be generic enough and/or managable enough to fit on most projects.
[13:37] <Shapeshifter> Hi. Does someone know a way of resizing an image to a specific number of kilbytes? Like with convert, but instead of giving a geometry, giving a desired file size
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> olskolirc:  looks like its 'chm2pdf foo.chm foo.pdf'  but i dont have a chm to test
[13:37] <Digital_rouge> @uborttu running ubuntu 10.04 and firefox 366 youtube videos will play sound but no picture but youtube videos on other web sites will play just fine, I think it has to do with embeded files
[13:38] <olskolirc> ok Dr_Willis
[13:38] <Lazyvee> maxwellian: I know my modem router is set up for the 192.168.2.1 to 192.168.2.100 IP range, would it be the reason why it doesn't work? but even after entering an IP within that range it doesnt work...
[13:38] <MaRk-I> Lazyvee: have you tried without encryption?
[13:38] <Lazyvee> maxwellian: but these are network IPs and I can connect to the network so it's probably not the reason why it won't work
[13:39] <Lazyvee> no, but i'm going to try now
[13:39] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: If your router is set up for that range, I don't know how you're getting the IP you got.
[13:40] <tomatto_> why ubuntu runs in failsafe mode graphics?
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> olskolirc:  from reading the --help  --> chm2pdf  --book  foo.chm
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> olskolirc:  ### Either '--book' or '--webpage' or '--continuous' MUST be given!
[13:40] <tomatto_> respectively in low driver mode?
[13:41] <Lazyvee> maxwellian: me neither, that's what I dont understand. I must be doing something wrong
[13:41] <Lazyvee> maxwellian: turned off encryption, going to try again
[13:42] <UbiNerD> ubottu: I get this than to see: md5sum: Windows 7 NVIDIA Edition 2010 Final x86 and x64 ISO: no properly formatted MD5 checksum lines found
[13:43] <MaRk-I> windows 7 nvidia edition.. lol
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> UbiNerD:   You got a  correct 'md5 checksup for the iso you downloaded' ? Proberly not if its a warezed cd..
[13:45] <UbiNerD> Dr_Willis: I think so, because I was there before them and opened fire, at least in windows itself ..
[13:45] <UbiNerD> file*
[13:45] <bullgard4> I have installed the DEB program package »linux-source«. Am I right in believing that installing the package »linux-doc« is thus dispensable?
[13:46] <AnxiousNut> Help! Im using the Disk Utility under System --> Administration, trying to create a RAID 0 of two of my usb flash disks, but it tells me "no free space" though i just reformatted them (as FAT32)! WHy isnt it working?
[13:46] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: Any luck?
[13:47] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: I have to go, write this down: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/yF7RJ3ab
[13:47] <Lazyvee> maxwellian: turned off encryption and it's working!
[13:47] <pega> Hola alguien puede ayudarme tengo problemas al instalar Ubuntu
[13:47] <Pici> !es | pega
[13:47] <informatix1> hello
[13:48] <Lazyvee> maxwellian: now I have to find out how to make it work WITH encryption...
[13:48] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: Great!  Hopefully someone will be able to get encryption working for you.  Write down that link, it's a compilation of the three pastebin links you sent me.
[13:48] <Lazyvee> maxwellian: thanks for your help and your time !
[13:48] <pega> Thanks
[13:48] <pega> can you help me
[13:48] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: And I mean literally write it down, in case your computer crashes again.
[13:48] <informatix1> help with ubuntu webserver config
[13:49] <maxwellian> Lazyvee: You're welcome, good luck!
[13:49] <Lazyvee> maxwellian: I'll paste the text in a file. thanks again!
[13:50] <Ash___> Could someone please gimmie a hand? I'm trying to save some files from a dead windows box, and i can't mount the harddrive: it's telling me i need to boot into windows and run chkdsk, but obviously i can't. D:
[13:50] <informatix1> help with ubuntu webserver config
[13:52] <Ash___> anyone?
[13:52] <Pici> !details | informatix1
[13:52] <bullgard4> Ash___: You did not describe your situation precisely enough. Try to start an Ubuntu live CD and see if you can see this hard drive.
[13:53] <carebucket> What does "connection reset by peer" mean?
[13:53] <Ash___> Oh, sorry. I'm running an Ubuntu Live CD and trying to save the files on a dead windows box. The hard drive won't mount, and in the error details I am told to run chkdsk /f in windows, and reboot. I can't do that, though, because the windows install is dead.
[13:54] <Dulak> carebucket: it means one side reset the connection unexpectedly
[13:55] <AnxiousNut> Disk Utility Raid Problem solved: The disks should be without any filesystem, deleting the partitions solved it! Just for future reference!
[13:55] <Ash___> Is that a bit clearer, bullgard4? :/
[13:55] <bullgard4> carebucket: Some network connections are set up not on a hierarchial basis but are negotiated at the beginning on an equal rights base. In this situation the remote end reset the connection.
[13:55] <carebucket> Thanks Dulak and bullgard4
[13:56] <ofirk> Hello :)
[13:56] <ofirk> Does someone know about how to fix Banshee crashing when trying to play mp3 files?
[13:56] <jatt> the clock applets blocks on two different laptops is this a known issue
[13:56] <jatt> or might be related to which ntp servers I use?
[13:56] <abhi_nav> Ash___, I only know that this software used to recoverd data from partitions. I dont know further. see if this helps: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[13:57] <bullgard4> Ash___: I think you have done it all right. I am not experienced enough to tell you why this partition will not mount. --  I cannot help you. I am sorry.
[13:57] <Ash___> abhi_nav, unfortunately because windows is dead i can't burn any CD's :/
[13:58] <rayvtirx> i have ubuntu server 10.04 and when i run clamscan -r  it starts to scan but freezes
[13:58] <Ash___> ah man, okay. i'll keep trying, thanks anyway bullgard4.
[13:58] <MaRk-I> Ash___: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1479224
[13:58] <Dr_Willis> Ash___:  there are minimal live cd's that can boot to RAM and let You use the cdrom/dvd as a burner.
[13:58] <Joshmuffin> can anyone help me setting up dual monitors with a ati card? ubuntu 10.04
[13:58] <rayvtirx> with error fmap_readpage: pread fail
[13:59] <abhi_nav_> Ash___, I only know that this software used to recoverd data from partitions. I dont know further. see if this helps: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[13:59] <abhi_nav_> I was disconnected.
[14:00] <rayvtirx> this is while it scans /sys/devices/platform/floppy.0/block/fd0/power/infight
[14:00] <jelly-one> Hi!  I have Ubuntu Netbook Remix 9.10 installed on a netbook with wifi network access.  Is there a way to use something like Internet Connection Sharing to enable another machine access the internet over its wired ethernet?
[14:00] <bullgard4> Joshmuffin: Did you try xrandr?
[14:00] <bazhang> !ics > jelly-one
[14:01] <Proz> Hello, I just downloaded http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - Put it on a USB stick and tried to install it.
[14:01] <MaRk-I> !ics > MaRk-I
[14:01] <Proz> The menu appears just fine, but when I click start ubuntu from USB or install to harddisk
[14:01] <Proz> The screen just flashes and returns to the main menu
[14:02] <carebucket> MaRk-I: Can you make the bot msg me about Internet connection sharing too please
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> carebucket:  do /msg ubottu  factoidtosee
[14:03] <MaRk-I> !ics > carebucket
[14:03] <carebucket> Thanks
[14:03] <Proz> Right, one lined questions. Sorry :x Hello, I just downloaded http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - Put it on a USB stick and tried to install it. The PC boots up with the USB stick, the ubuntu menu appears however after that nothing happens when I hit enter while having install to harddisk selected.
[14:03] <Ash___> ah, i think i've lost it. i'm getting an error from windows that says 'no bootable partiton in table', and that's never good >__>
[14:03] <jelly-one> bazhang, thanks
[14:04] <MaRk-I> Ash___: fixmbr?
[14:04] <Dulak> Ash___: use a partition manager to mark the windows partition as bootable
[14:04] <Joshmuffin> bullgard4, yeah i couldnt understand a thing
[14:05] <Ash___> i can do that from the Ubuntu Live CD, right? i can't burn any CD's, Mark-I/Dulak
[14:06] <Proz> I just downloaded the ubuntu alternative installer - Put it on a USB stick and tried to install it. The PC boots up with the USB stick, the ubuntu menu appears however after that nothing happens when I hit enter while having install to harddisk selected. Nor does it boot Ubuntu if I select that. Memory test on the other hand does work.
[14:06] <MaRk-I> Ash___: yes you can also copy to a usb drive
[14:06] <yehia> hello , iam using ubuntu 9.04 and iam wondering how can i make the boot time faster ?
[14:06] <Dulak> Ash___: yup, fdisk on the livecd has an option for marking a partiton bootable
[14:07] <Ash___> what command would i use? fixmbr in the terminal?
[14:07] <Joshmuffin> bullgard4, i installed arandr, graphical frotend for xrandr but it wasnt much help
[14:07] <MaRk-I> Ash___: do as Dulak  said
[14:07] <yehia> hello , iam using ubuntu 9.04 and iam wondering how can i make the boot time faster ?
[14:08] <io> yehia: I'd suggest upgrading first of all.
[14:08] <tydeas> Hello , when i open my pc with ubuntu 10 i have connection to the internet and after a while i have no more....
[14:08] <tydeas> without a reason...why is that?
[14:09] <tydeas> I have network connection but not internet connection
[14:09] <bobo123> so it dies after some minutes? but you can still reach the other computers on your local network?
[14:09] <Ash___> dulak, sorry for my lack of techskills, but do i just run the command 'fdisk' in the terminal?
[14:09] <VCoolio> yehia: disable some things you don't need, like bluetooth maybe or laptop stuff; install bum, run it and have fun
[14:09] <tydeas> bobo123: exactly
[14:09] <yehia> io, i dont want to upgrade it as every time i upgrade - i lose the flixibility and compatiblity with my Laptop
[14:09] <Dulak> Ash___:  fdisk /dev/sda
[14:09] <panfist> i'm trying to install a package, and it reports that it installs successfully but i'm missing files that are supposed to be included
[14:09] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[14:09] <Proz> Does anyone here know what the issue exactly is? I have tried different sources of the alternate ubuntu installer.
[14:10] <silv3r_m00n> I need to scan over the network , I mean the scanner is connected to other computer over lan
[14:10] <bobo123> tydeas: btw, do you use some wireless connection, or have network cables to all your computers?
[14:10] <silv3r_m00n> how ?
[14:10] <tydeas> bobo123: cables. i am talking here by connecting with shh
[14:10] <MaRk-I> Proz: you cant use the regular live cd?
[14:10] <tydeas> to an other pc in same network
[14:10] <Proz> No, I'd like LVM + Encryption.
[14:10] <Dulak> Ash___: inside fdisk 'p' will print out the partitions, look for the id number of the windows partition
[14:11] <tydeas> bobo123: any idea?
[14:11] <bobo123> tydeas: and the other computers can still reach internet?
[14:11] <tydeas> yes this how i talk to you
[14:11] <bobo123> tydeas: I am trying to get any idea but just now I can't understand how it is possible....
[14:11] <Dulak> Ash___: once you know that id number, hit 'a' and give that number, then hit 'w' to write the change
[14:11] <terry_> How to increase the sound of a movie
[14:11] <irv> anyone know of a good terminal bandwidth monitor?
[14:12] <Proz> MaRk-I No, I'd like LVM + Encryption.
[14:12] <tomatto_> how tune satelite card programs?
[14:12] <terry_> It has very less volume
[14:12] <panfist> i'm trying to install a package, and it reports that it installs successfully but i'm missing files that are supposed to be included
[14:12] <Ash___> so, the number's '0x1549f232'. i'll give it a try
[14:13] <Ash___> oh no, sily me
[14:13] <Ash___> apparently the ID's 7, but im only allowed to input 1-4?
[14:13] <bobo123> tydeas: I suppose you have a home router (or ads-lmodem with router builtin etc) and your router gives your ubuntu computer a ipnumber when started as it should, but then after a while drops it? perhaps you can try to write a permanent ipnumber on your ubuntu-computer instead
[14:14] <Dulak> Ash___: no the partition id number: sda1 sda2 sda3 etc
[14:14] <Ash___> ah, okay
[14:14] <Ash___> so, currently sda1 is enabled and sda2 is disabled
[14:14] <Ash___> i should enable 2 and disable 1?
[14:14] <Dulak> Ash___: which is listed as ntfs?
[14:14] <Ash___> both are listed as HPFS/NTFS
[14:15] <tydeas> bobo123: any ideas?
[14:15] <tomatto_> why ubuntu runs with failsafe X server?
[14:15] <MaMoUs> where can i find a free VPN connection
[14:15] <leven> can i run memtest from a bootable ubuntu 10.04 usb stick?
[14:15] <Dulak> Ash___: then yes I'd say flag 1 since it isn't already
[14:15] <tomatto_> leven: yes
[14:15] <leven> tomatto_: how?
[14:15] <Ash___> okay. i'll give it a go. reboot in after this, and see if it works?
[14:15] <leven> the menu it had in prev- releases is gone
[14:16] <leven> now all i can choose is install or boot?
[14:16] <Dulak> Ash___: make sure you write the change first with 'w'
[14:16] <tomatto_> leven: in menu it must be
[14:16] <Ash___> yeah, done. i'll let you know how it gets on
[14:16] <leven> i never get the menu
[14:16] <bobo123> tydeas: try rightclick on the network symbol and edit network connection, and then edit the "auto eth0" to not use DHCP for IPv4, but instead Manual and say 192.168.0.10 or something
[14:17] <bobo123> now I must run
[14:17] <leven> tomatto_: are you sure it is still there? i know exactly how to do it in all older releases wich have the menu
[14:17] <tydeas> bobo123: my ips where already static
[14:17] <irv> anyone know of a good terminal bandwidth monitor?
[14:17] <bobo123> aha
[14:17] <Daekdroom> irv, nethogs
[14:17] <abhi_nav> is america's army a trusted game?
[14:17] <Ash___> now it's listing 'a disc read error occured' >_>
[14:17] <MaMoUs> where can i find a free VPN connection
[14:18] <tomatto_> leven: how did you install ubuntu to usb?
[14:18] <sonorus> how to replace '.' with ',' in text file with size > 65 mb ???
[14:18] <Ash___> i think this windows partiton's beyond saveable, Dulak :P
[14:18] <maxime_> !fr
[14:18] <tomatto_> why ubuntu runs with failsafe X server?
[14:18] <leven> with the system/administration/startaupdiskcreator option from a already installed computer
[14:18] <irv> Daekdroom: cheers
[14:18] <bobo123> is it just web addresses that fails (dns server) or allso ip numbers? if you frmo commandline run   ping 74.125.79.99  instead of ping www.google.com
[14:18] <leven> tomatto_: with the system/administration/startaupdiskcreator option from a already installed computer
[14:19] <tomatto_> leven: that should work
[14:19]  * bobo123 leaving
[14:19] <Dulak> Ash___: quite possibly
[14:19] <VCoolio> sonorus: use 'sed',  http://sed.sourceforge.net/sed1line.txt
[14:19] <Ash___> yeah, i'm getting he 'disk boot failure' error again, dulak.
[14:20] <Dulak> Ash___: Something is borked
[14:20] <metrahla> hi im using pure ftp .. i need to transfer a file, im at the last step, all i  need now is write permisions for the client but how can i give those permissions
[14:20] <metrahla> ?
[14:20] <leven> tomatto_: i know.. thats why i'm wondering if the removed it från the new release, in order to make it more simple and "maccy"
[14:20] <Ash___> Yeah. I'm going to try mounting the HDD from inside linux and copying the files onto a memory stick.
[14:21] <Ash___> will you still be able to try and help me if i get errors, dulak?
[14:21] <tanthony> hi everyone. I'm getting the error "XLoadQueryFont: failed loading font '*freemono*'". Can anyone help?
[14:21] <Dulak> Ash___: I should be here most of the day
[14:21] <ghoulsblade> hi all, i'm playing around with ldap auth client in karmic(9.10)  (ldap server is on another machine), and i'd like to start over, i tried  dpkg-reconfigure libpam-ldap libnss-ldap nss-updatedb libnss-db    , i tried apt-get remove --purge on them, i also tried deleting the files i could find in /etc manually, anything else i can do ?
[14:21] <user1_> Dr_Willis: u there?
[14:21] <tanthony> I have tried searching google and some forums for 3 days now without luck..
[14:22] <tomatto_> leven: better is install grub on flash. to run memtest
[14:22] <ghoulsblade> i'd like to have those  configure dialogs i got during install back, but couldn't get them with    dpkg-reconfigure  =(
[14:23] <leven> tomatto_: would be good to have both, as it was before..
[14:24] <tomatto_> leven: i have no experiences, how it was before.
[14:24] <X-2> sup
[14:24] <tanthony> Can someone help me regarding touchscreen calibration problems?
[14:24] <nucc1> can i do a raid setup using two IDE drives after installing ubuntu?
[14:24] <leven> tomatto_: but you have tried a 10.04 stick, and run memtest from it?
[14:24] <leven> oh thats nice
[14:25] <leven> in this channel it is a must to ignore everything but pure text..
[14:25] <Maletor> How can I map my horizontal scroll to my browser's forward and back buttons?
[14:25] <tomatto_> leven: when install cd to usb via usbstickcreator, it is same as on cd
[14:25] <barfster> nucc1: Yes
[14:25] <barfster> 0 or 1
[14:26] <Dulak> nucc1: you'd have to create a broken array with the first disk and then add the second disk to the array to sync it, if you mean raid 1 (mirroring)
[14:26] <Ash___> oh, weird. i'm not sure why, but changing the MBR has allowed me to be able to mount the windows partion, Dulak. that's strange.
[14:26] <nucc1> barfster, 1, it won't require losing data eh?
[14:26] <nucc1> barfster, ah, thanks :)
[14:26] <Ash___> hopefully i'll be able to copy across all my files now, and i'll just reformat windows
[14:26] <Dulak> Ash___: nifty, at least you'll get your data
[14:27] <nucc1> barfster, does it have anything to do with lvm?
[14:27] <xro> hi, to remove graphical interface from an existing installation.  i can do apt-get remove gnu??? thanks
[14:27] <bazhang> !noX | xro
[14:28] <bazhang> xro, or you could just use the minimal iso or server iso then build on that
[14:28] <barfster> I’d say yes and no: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_Volume_Manager_(Linux)
[14:28] <xro> bazhang, but i also need more disk space... so, i would like to uninstall it
[14:28] <nucc1> Dulak, thanks
[14:28] <bazhang> xro, is this permanent?
[14:28] <bazhang> xro, got a separate /home partition?
[14:28] <S4nD3r> I had a problem, and I dont know what to do. Its impossible to use xchat from my machine. I tried to use enigmail in thunderbird, probably did something wrong in keys, and now I cant use xchat, neither pidgin from my machine
[14:28] <S4nD3r> what to do?
[14:29] <xro> bazhang, yes, it's permanent.... i never use the gui and no /home is not separate
[14:29] <MaRk-I> leven: when starting the cd press "esc" key to get the memtest menu
[14:29] <tanthony> can anyone help me with me a evtouch calibration problem?
[14:29] <S4nD3r> Its matter to encryption
[14:29] <asina12> hi...does ubuntu karmic need to use usbmode switch to use a usb modem??
[14:29] <S4nD3r> Im almost to format everything and start back from beginning
[14:30] <VCoolio> xro: you could uninstall ubuntu-desktop, it's a metapackage that will take all ubuntu applications like evolution and nautilus and what not with it
[14:30] <bazhang> VCoolio, removing that will only remove that one package
[14:30] <Dr_Willis> Uninstalling ubuntu-desktop wont remove anything.
[14:30] <Dr_Willis> other then the meta-package package itself. :)
[14:31] <xro> VCoolio, ok...  ubuntu-descktop instead of gnu (gnu is on debian i think)... thanks
[14:31] <VCoolio> bazhang: ah, so after that also autoremove?
[14:31] <loneowais_> hey, would anyone like to try out my new app. It's a gmail notifier; ppa:loneowais/ppa
[14:31] <Dulak> meta packages only work for installing unfortunately
[14:31] <VCoolio> xro: sorry; read ^
[14:31] <user1_> Dr_Willis: how do we repartition usb using fdisk on ubuntu . the dd command is finally over with 1024 bs.
[14:31] <Dr_Willis> user1_:  sudo fdisk /dev/whatever   then use the proper commands to make the partitions how you want. and 'w'rite changes to disk when done
[14:32] <soa2ii_> Hi, I try to get my autofs with ldap working. I followed the instructions here: http://www.opinsys.fi/en/setting-up-nfsv4kerberosautofs5-ldap-on-ubuntu-10-04-alpha-2-lucid-part-7 but my messages log says allways: kernel: [   18.182964] automount[1223]: segfault at 0 ip 00007f4975ce3022 sp 00007fff13f1bdc8 error 4 in libc-2.11.1.so[7f4975c60000+178000] any ideas what's wrong?
[14:32] <tanthony> can anyone help me with me a evtouch calibration problem?
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> user1_:  it will be like 'n' for new, 'p' for primary,  then enter twice for teh sizes to use the whole thing..  then set its type to whatever you want. for whatever fs you want.
[14:33] <MaMoUs> where can i find a free VPN connection
[14:33] <bazhang> !ot | MaMoUs
[14:33] <Zweckfremd> hey does anybody have the hp mini 5101
[14:33] <S4nD3r> format
[14:34] <S4nD3r> so
[14:34] <S4nD3r> see you
[14:34] <S4nD3r> Ill format
[14:34] <Zweckfremd> bluetooth is not working for me
[14:34] <Dulak> S4nD3r: don't sweat it, every reformat is just a learning opportunity
[14:34] <Ash___> hm. it's only mounting certain areas, dulak.
[14:34] <Dulak> bah stupid dvorak layout
[14:35] <Dr_Willis> MaMoUs:  i googled and found a few the other day.. some dont work without some special vpn clientsx however.
[14:35] <Ash___> hur, i'm going to try remounting it.
[14:35] <Dulak> Ash___: I think it's hosed, I suspected from the beginning but figured you had nothing to lose
[14:35] <user1_> Dr_Willis: http://pastebin.com/LSTLF8KK . what now?
[14:36] <wookienz> dpkg -l |grep dmraid
[14:37] <soa2ii> Anyone an idea what's wrong with my autofs? It crashes every time giving this error:
[14:37] <soa2ii> automount[1440]: segfault at 0 ip 00007f3eb444a022 sp 00007fffc7c27938 error 4 in libc-2.11.1.so[7f3eb43c7000+178000]
[14:37] <Ash___> dulak yeah, i figured too. ah man.
[14:37] <S4nD3r> So
[14:37] <S4nD3r> nobody know the solution about encryption?
[14:38] <pakair> Zweckfremd, run /etc/init.d/bluetooth status then start
[14:39] <Zweckfremd> thx
[14:40] <metra_> does anyone knows how i can make pureftp server give write permisions?
[14:40] <Ash___> i'm going to keep trying to get the photos, dulak, but the girl i'm doing this for has definitely learned a lesson in backing up data
[14:40] <akash> .help
[14:41] <Dulak> Ash___: tell her I said hi  ;)
[14:41] <DexterLB>  I have coLinux with ubuntu jaunty. I use it as a server and it has apache, deluge, znc, tor, squid, some VPN scripts and pptp, and a few other things
[14:41] <DexterLB> do you think it will be possible to upgrade it to lucid without breaking everything?
[14:41] <DexterLB> i also have custom init.d scripts
[14:41] <bribroder> morning y'all
[14:42] <MaRk-I> Ash___: have u tried testdisk/photorec?
[14:42] <Zweckfremd> /etc/init.d/bluetooth start is not working
[14:42] <DexterLB> Zweckfremd: which ubuntu version?
[14:43] <Ash___> Mark-I I can't download them: i only have one CD drive, and it's borked
[14:43] <Dulak> Ash___: no flash drive?
[14:43] <Zweckfremd> i use a ubuntu netbook version
[14:43] <Ash___> and i can't download a minimal Live CD, because i'd need to burn it
[14:44] <Dulak> Who uses cds anymore?
[14:44] <Ash___> dulak, there's an idea.
[14:44] <MaRk-I> !testdisk
[14:45] <Zweckfremd> Linux Poolhose 2.6.32-23-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jun 11 07:54:58 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[14:45] <leven> MaRk-I: just what i was looking for, thanks!
[14:45] <Zweckfremd> if that is of any help
[14:46] <Ash___> testdisk or photorec? i'm just reading up on them, but it seems like they're the same thing from the same company >_>
[14:46] <MaRk-I> leven: yw
[14:46] <MaRk-I> Ash___: same program
[14:46] <leven> Ash___: maybe one bought the other not so long ago?
[14:47] <MaRk-I> Ash___: maybe you can make it work with the livecd install alien and convert the rpm one :P
[14:47] <LeRrA> Hi, how is it possible to get ETA on a patch to main repository? Is it possible to downlaod it before and test it out? I am thinking of this bugfix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/520386
[14:47] <Ash___> ah, testdisc is a partiton recoverer, photorec saves files (hopefully) if testdisc doesn't work
[14:47] <bullgard4> Joshmuffin: A small help might be [GNOME] System > Preferences > Monitors > (Monitor Preferences) > Detect Monitors.
[14:48] <MaRk-I> Ash___:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=387922
[14:49] <bullgard4> I have installed the DEB program package »linux-source«. Am I right in believing that installing the package »linux-doc« is thus dispensable?
[14:49] <BluesKaj> howdy
[14:49] <struhevol> how do i change permission on a folder
[14:49] <struhevol> it tells m you are not the owner
[14:49] <Eric_Berk> Since my last update, my wifi stopped working... any iwconfig command returns device is busy...?
[14:49] <bullgard4> struhevol: You can use Nautilus.
[14:49] <Ash___> urrr, can i do that on a livecd, or will i have to nab a USB version of ubuntu?
[14:49] <struhevol> hu ??
[14:50] <iceroot> Eric_Berk: what update? new ubuntu version or just apt-get (dist-)upgrade?
[14:50] <MaRk-I> Ash___:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/testdisk
[14:50] <bullgard4> struhevol: '~$ gksu nautilus'
[14:50] <MaRk-I> try installing it
[14:50] <Eric_Berk> iceroot: the 'thing' that pops up and asks you to update 'stuff'
[14:50] <Eric_Berk> is there a log somewhere so I can tell you?
[14:51] <AnxiousNut> help, I created a raid 0 array on a PC and worked, but now it doesnt work on my netbook! it says "cannot mount file"
[14:52] <Eric_Berk> iceroot: I am looking at /var/log/apt/history ... do you want me to pastie?
[14:52] <Ash___> right, i'll give you a shout when i've ran through it
[14:52] <struhevol> delete foldername
[14:52] <VCoolio> LeRrA: if the patch is accepted by the developers it will probably be released in a new version, and appear in the next ubuntu release unless it's a security thing and fixed for older versions too; you can do 'apt-get source <package>', then apply the patch to it, install dependencies 'apt-get build-dep <package>' then build with checkinstall (./configure, make, sudo checkinstall)
[14:52] <MaRk-I> Ash___:  just have a usb with plenty of space and select only the type of files you want to recover....
[14:54] <struhevol> how do i use natilus to change the permission of the folder
[14:54] <struhevol> dir
[14:55] <knoppies> struhevol, have you looked at the tabs in the Properties from the right click menu?
[14:55] <struhevol> yes
[14:55] <VCoolio> LeRrA: according to the comments it's fixed in libvirt - 0.8.1-2ubuntu1 which will be in ubuntu 10.10, so patience or build like I said
[14:55] <knoppies> Is permissions one of the tabs?
[14:56] <struhevol> and it say you are not the owner
[14:56] <struhevol> yes
[14:56] <_spm_Draget> What is the difference between apt-get and aptitude. And if they do both the same, why have both?
[14:57] <iflema> _spm_Draget ones on the way out (aptitude).... one is more user friendlier/human readable
[14:57] <struhevol> it tells me i am not th owner so u cannot change these permissions
[14:57] <FranzStrudel> åäö
[14:57] <user1_> can someone help me with partition with fdisk. can it be done similarly as it is done with windows since fdisk is a dos tool
[14:57] <_spm_Draget> iflema: So on the long term, aptitude will be removed?
[14:58] <iflema> _spm_Draget I belive that is the plan....
[14:58] <gelan> AnxiousNut, have you installed mdadm on your netbook?  If yes, do you see your array in mdadm.conf?
[14:58] <duffydack> user1_, what do you want to do
[14:58] <bazhang> !se | FranzStrudel
[14:59] <knoppies> struhevol, I suggest you become acquainted with the command line then. chmod will do the trick. I think in theory you could run nautilus as root, but I believe that it is highly discouraged.
[14:59] <AnxiousNut> gelan, oh God, forgot to do that! Thanks for reminding me! I say this should be preinstalled though!
[14:59] <struhevol> ok chmod 777 filename would that work
[14:59] <erUSUL> user1_: unix fdisk is not similar to dos fdisk. use more modern easy tools like parted or cfdisk
[15:00] <erUSUL> user1_: or if you can use a gui use gparted
[15:00] <knoppies> struhevol, actually, now that i think about it you want to change the owner, I forget the command, give me a sec.
[15:00] <user1_> duffydack: i just completed "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=1024" on my 256gb flash drive. i want to format and partition it so that it's usable on every OS
[15:00] <Eric_Berk> any ideas how ubuntu broke my wifi on a standard update?
[15:01] <user1_> erUSUL: yes. i am really had a hard time in knowing ubuntu doesnt have proper tools to partition or atleast i am ignorant!!
[15:01] <erUSUL> user1_: system>admin>partition editor
[15:02] <knoppies> struhevol, man chown
[15:02] <struhevol> man chown hu ??
[15:02] <user1_> erUSUL: what do you recommend. a dos table with a 256gb fat32 partition? since ext3 is immediately not recognized even by gparted after format!
[15:03] <struhevol> ok
[15:03] <knoppies> struhevol, man just brings up the manual page on a command. It will tell you how to use the command.
[15:03] <erUSUL> user1_: 256 GiB or MiB ? is a SSD ?
[15:03] <struhevol> sweet
[15:03] <struhevol> thanks
[15:04] <gelan> user1_, I am surprised gparted is not recognizing ext3!
[15:04] <user1_> erUSUL:it's 256GiB. disk utility shows it as 275GB
[15:04] <struhevol> all i want to do is delete the dir
[15:04] <user1_> gelan: that's the biggest problem . it does create ext3. but mmediately after that it scans and says unknown format.
[15:04] <Ragav> hi
[15:05] <iflema> _spm_Draget  oi.... from the install cd, its only a couple of clicks away
[15:05] <gelan> user1_, that sounds like a problem with the drive.
[15:05] <_spm_Draget> iflema: Huh, what do you mean?
[15:05] <erUSUL> user1_: well the filesystem will depend on in what systems/OS you will be using the disk
[15:06] <knoppies> struhevol, then sudo rm and sudo rmdir
[15:06] <gelan> user1_, how about NTFS?
[15:06] <knoppies> struhevol, Just be careful with rm.
[15:06] <user1_> gelan: is there a foolproof test to know if a USB is problematic or not?
[15:06] <bribroder> Anyone know how to add a driver to the minimal install?
[15:06] <iflema> _spm_Draget aptitude may not be on the install cd but it will be available in the repositories
[15:07] <user1_> erUSUL: i want it to be recognized on ubuntu first and then may be half for fat32 and half for ext3!
[15:07] <gelan> user1_, Let me ask a silly question here.  You did click on "apply" in gparted. Did'nt you?
[15:07] <user1_> gelan: yes
[15:07] <_spm_Draget> iflema: Good, because I think it is confisuing new users
[15:08] <gelan> user1_, I don't know of a foolproof test but did you try NTFS?
[15:09] <struhevol> cannot remove its a directory
[15:09] <user1_> gelan: i did.
[15:09] <struhevol> rm dont work on directories
[15:09] <erUSUL> user1_: i would use ( for flash device ) ext2 or ext4 without journal if it is going to be used in linux
[15:09] <sebsebseb> hi
[15:09] <Ash____> urr, sorry about that. my netbook died.
[15:09] <erUSUL> user1_: or ntfs if it is going to be used in windows and linux
[15:09] <gelan> user1_, Didnt work I suppose.
[15:09] <smt-mobil> is there a special channel where server configuration topics are discussed?
[15:10] <user1_> erUSUL: gparted didnt work. do you have commands for ubuntu fdisk?
[15:10] <Ash____> Mark-I, i'm sure the internet hates me today. the Ubuntu site you linked me to won't work, and Alien failed converting the RPM to a .deb
[15:10] <visof> i can use irc and i can't open any web pages , i changes the nameserver to 8.8.8.8 and i have the same problem
[15:10] <sebsebseb> smt-mobil: #ubuntu-server for Server Edition
[15:10] <smt-mobil> thx
[15:10] <visof> what should i check too ?
[15:10] <erUSUL> user1_: use parted in command line . « sudo parted /dev/sdx » type help press enter
[15:10] <MaRk-I> Ash____: odd because the page says testdisk is in the universe repos
[15:10] <sebsebseb> smt-mobil: np
[15:11] <gelan> user1_, you have another flash drive lying around that you could try formatting?
[15:11] <Ash____> Mark-I, the ubuntu version i'm running's pretty old, it's the only LiveCD i could find lying about :/
[15:11] <MaRk-I> Ash____: what version?
[15:11] <Ash____> and I changed the repos and still couldn't find it in synaptic, so I'm guessing it's not included in this ver.
[15:12] <blain> can 64bit cds be requested or only 32bit?
[15:12] <user1_> gelan: quite a good suggestion but not this huge.
[15:12] <user1_> erUSUL: i will try parted this time with ntfs.
[15:12] <gelan> user1_, can you try it on another OS  or PC?
[15:12] <Ash____> pah, i don't even know. i'm imagining 8, maybe.
[15:12] <MaRk-I> lol
[15:12] <gelan> user1_, what version of Ubuntu again?
[15:12] <erUSUL> user1_: you have to install ntfsprogs package if you want to format in ntfs
[15:13] <MaRk-I> cat /proc/lsb_release    is that the command?
[15:13] <bribroder> Anyone know how to add a driver to the minimal install?
[15:13] <Ash____> no such file or directory, i'm getting.
[15:13] <MaRk-I> shoot i forgot the command xD
[15:14] <Ash____> yeah, it's not one i store at the front of my mind :P
[15:14] <user1_> erUSUL: oh ok.so a dos parition table and ntfs.
[15:14] <bazhang> !version
[15:14] <_spm_Draget> Who made autofs? Sun?
[15:14] <MaRk-I> there you go, ty bazhang
[15:14] <user1_> gelan: lucid
[15:14] <Ash____> 'no lsb modules are available'. christ, it must be old.
[15:14] <gelan> user1_, then gparted should have come with ntfsprogs
[15:14] <bazhang> _spm_Draget, does that have anything to do with ubuntu support?
[15:15] <MaRk-I> Ash____: must be warty whoary lmao
[15:15] <_spm_Draget> bazhang: sort of... because I heard there were forks... and I have no idea what ubuntu is using
[15:15] <Ash____> ._.'''
[15:15] <MaRk-I> should burn a more recent one eh
[15:15] <Ash____> i'm sure i have an open suse livecd lying around at home, i might drive and grab that
[15:15] <rmrfslash> I did this once before but forgot.... how much space does a basic Ubuntu Server consume?
[15:15] <_spm_Draget> bazhang: And stop being an annoying irc-troll
[15:15] <bazhang> user1_, you've been on this a couple of days; this is a flash drive 256GB , correct?
[15:16] <Ash____> i would, i'll remember that next time the CD Drive's working :P
[15:16] <user1_> bazhang: yes.
[15:16] <bazhang> _spm_Draget, that is not necessary. chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[15:17] <bazhang> user1_, and the issue is that it won't show up at all when you insert it into your usb port?
[15:17] <MaRk-I> Ash____: burn it to a usb, just hope the pc has more than one usb port :P
[15:18] <user1_> bazhang: the issue was it does not retain data when remounted.
[15:18] <Ash____> this is so long winded, hah. oh man, damn sentimental photo values D:<
[15:18] <user7> pollo
[15:18] <user1_> bazhang : and i ran a dd zero as willis suggested
[15:18] <bazhang> user7, the data traveller has password protection if I recall correctly
[15:18] <bazhang> whoops sorry user7
[15:18] <user1_> bazhang : no
[15:19] <user1_> bazhang : or how do we check it
[15:19] <Ash____> eh, i'm just going to drive home and grab the Open SUSE disc. i'm fairly sure i have another (newer) ubuntu disc, too, so i'll have a look for that
[15:19] <Ash____> back in about 10.
[15:19] <bazhang> user1_, and it works on none of the various OSes you have tried. I would seriously consider it may well be a hardware issue
[15:19] <user1_> brb
[15:19] <wangfeng> 大家好
[15:20] <bazhang> !cn | wangfeng
[15:20] <wangfeng> 大家好阿
[15:20] <wangfeng> hello
[15:20] <ohir> !jp | wangfeng
[15:20] <NetRoY> HELP guys ... I have multiple uvcvideo devices (/dev/video0,/dev/video1.. etc).... and an application that uses libv4l2 .... how do I select which device to use with the app....??? by default its picking up video0 ... I remember some sorta env variable ... not sure .. HELP
[15:21] <wookienz> hi , im trying to update my ditro, but im getting this error: "W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic Release: Unknown error executing gpgv" ideas?
[15:21] <wangfeng> 谁会说中文
[15:21] <SteffJay> Does anybody know if the 10.04 repositories is down ?
[15:21] <jpds> SteffJay: Err, no?
[15:21] <wangfeng> no
[15:21] <jpds> SteffJay: Which mirror are you using?
[15:22] <MaRk-I> SteffJay: some ppl have problems with br servers
[15:22] <SteffJay> I'm loading 10.04 and it is hanging on d/loading updates :-/
[15:22] <jpds> MaRk-I: Yes; known issue, I've notified the admin.
[15:22] <jpds> SteffJay: Which mirror?
[15:22] <bazhang> wangfeng, here is english only; /join #ubuntu-cn
[15:23] <jiffe> do-release-upgrade doesn't seem to always work, it has gotten stuck twice
[15:23] <SteffJay> Something about gb-translation ????
[15:23] <jpds> SteffJay: Please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file.
[15:23] <jiffe> its been sitting at 'Installing new version of config file /etc/logrotate.d/mysql-server ...' all weekend
[15:23] <SteffJay> I cannot just yet, it is still loading and i am on another pc
[15:25] <lilucax> alguem aii fala portugues
[15:25] <bazhang> !pt | lilucax
[15:25] <SteffJay> On the screen it's saying "retreving file 17 of 36 and the whole install is at 79 %
[15:25] <blain> lilucax nao
[15:27] <SteffJay> However, there is a "skip" button !!
[15:27] <VCoolio> jiffe: try a fresh install or uninstall mysql, upgrade, reinstall mysql; both are workarounds but unless you have useful error output I don't know what else
[15:30] <etrisnanto> hello all
[15:30] <wookienz> gents my apt-get has died - i am getting "unknown error executing gpgv" when using apt-get update
[15:31] <slow-motion> bye
[15:31] <SteffJay> @wookienz You'll probably find the apt-get is ok. There is no files to retrieve from any Ubuntu web site at the moment
[15:32] <eoke> wookienz: Is your system date correct http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=271904
[15:32] <wookienz> SteffJay: they are down?
[15:33] <CloneA> Is there a way to take a 'screenshot' on a headless machine and save it as an image? - IE, if I wanted a result like this: http://i.imgur.com/X47BT.jpg
[15:33] <SteffJay> I think so wookienz
[15:33] <xiong> 40 days continuous uptime on my laptop. Then it shut down (CPU overtemp).
[15:33] <wookienz> eoke: time is fine
[15:33] <wookienz> so world wide ubuntu repos are down?
[15:34] <iflema> wookienz no.
[15:34] <eoke> wookienz: I'm performing an update as we speak just fine.
[15:34] <eoke> wookienz: When you say time I presume you've checked the date as well.
[15:34] <wookienz> ive tried changing repo's, same issue "Unknown error executing pgpv'
[15:34] <wookienz> eoke: yup
[15:35] <SteffJay> There must be a problem on the internet backbone somewhere
[15:35] <josephnexus> so I've got twinview working perfectly, but whenever I reboot that setting gets lost, and I have to set it up again, how do I change it so that twinview is working by default?
[15:36] <iflema> SteffJay under the desktop menu System / Administration / Software Sources      where do you download from: main server?
[15:37] <SteffJay> @wookienz: Try using update manager !!
[15:37] <wookienz> i am
[15:37] <SteffJay> Any good ?
[15:37] <mib_mib> hi guys, can someone give me an easy way to create a lock file? What i mean is that i have a script, my.py that run periodically, but if it is already running, i don't want it to run again
[15:37] <iflema> josephnexus try        sudo nvidia-settings      in a terminal
[15:38] <image_q> hello does anyone know an apt-get repository which contains the newest samba server (or at least one that works with windows 7)
[15:38] <thomas__> Do some 1 know how to use Aircrack-ng?
[15:38] <josephnexus> ah, and then save the xorg file?
[15:38] <bazhang> thomas__, to do what
[15:38] <s3r3n1t7_> I"m looking for a decent XML Editor, but the repo has quite some options. I'd like a few options (note that this is not a poll)
[15:38] <eoke> wookienz: Does /usr/bin/gpgv exist?
[15:38] <iflema> josephnexus yes... gksu sorry do gksu nvidia-settings
[15:38] <josephnexus> k thanks
[15:38] <Misterio> thomas__: Yes, install minidwep-gtk and use it graphically
[15:39] <thomas__> Do some 1 know how to use Aircrack-ng?
[15:39] <bazhang> thomas__, for what purpose?
[15:39] <wookienz> eoke: yes
[15:39] <MaRk-I> thomas__: /join #aricrack-ng
[15:40] <eoke> wookienz: Can you try running "sudo aptitude update" at the command prompt and pastebining any errors you get.
[15:40] <Vaevictus> hey guys, i just got a "kernel panic: no processes to kill" on my 8.04 LTS production box. (preceded by a series of killed off processes)
[15:40] <image_q> sounds like a virus
[15:40] <s3r3n1t7_> Vaevictus, any messages precede the list of killed processes? What were you doing?
[15:40] <s3r3n1t7_> image_q, not really ...
[15:40] <wookienz> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/c16L7RGG
[15:41] <Vaevictus> s3r3n1t7_: it was kernel panicked, I couldn't scroll up beyond them.
[15:41] <s3r3n1t7_> Vaevictus, what was that box doing? Anything out of the ordinary? What was it used for?
[15:41] <Vaevictus> it was a production web server, so there were several boxes
[15:41] <Vaevictus> er ... processes
[15:41] <Vaevictus> nothing out of the ordinary, as far as i can tell
[15:41] <image_q> did you use killall?
[15:42] <AnxiousNut> image_q, killall process_name
[15:42] <s3r3n1t7_> Vaevictus, webserver ... with? php, java, html? Did you install something not in the repo?
[15:42] <image_q> maybe killall -u root?
[15:42] <eoke> wookienz: Can you also paste bin your sources /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:42] <iflema> wookienz is that supposed to be down... because its not.......
[15:42] <AnxiousNut> what does "Current status:  1 update [-126]" after upgrading using aptitude safe-upgrade mean?
[15:43] <wookienz> iflema: ?
[15:43] <Vaevictus> image_q: if you're talking to me, ther ewas no-one logged into the box at the time... i was asleep and i'm the only root user.
[15:43] <s3r3n1t7_> AnxiousNut, that there still is 1 update waiting to be installed, which is likely depending on another.
[15:43] <AnxiousNut> s3r3n1t7_, okay then what's up with the -126?
[15:43] <Vaevictus> s3r3n1t7_: php and apache2 mostly. no java iirc, no installs outside of the repo in kernel or root user space
[15:43] <arvind_khadri> AnxiousNut, that 126 updates have been done
[15:44] <s3r3n1t7_> AnxiousNut, it's the exit code. There's a whole bunch of them, this one indicating there's still something waiting.
[15:44] <wookienz> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/unBw7cwb
[15:44] <Vaevictus> s3r3n1t7_: it's also behind a pix, and shouldn't have received any traffic other than via apache2, so remote exploit seems unlikely.
[15:44] <s3r3n1t7_> Vaevictus, hmm, that's odd. Can you check the webserver logs if something went wrong? If i remember correctly the kernel should also store a log somewhere in case of a crash, let me see if i can find where.
[15:44] <Vaevictus> s3r3n1t7_: i will look there
[15:45] <AnxiousNut> s3r3n1t7_, do you know for what reason it didnt install the remaining update?
[15:45] <ohir> Vaevictus: first check if your installed web stuff has no countrywiede holes (as recently Wordpress had ie).
[15:45] <Vaevictus> ohir: ... you think a wordpress install could crash the linux kernel?
[15:45] <AnxiousNut> arvind_khadri, then can you please tell me why there is a minus sign next to the number?
[15:45] <s3r3n1t7_> AnxiousNut, i can't know without looking. Do a dist-upgrade and check if there remain some.
[15:45] <Jef91> Anyone know how I can "unlock" a field of editing in open office?
[15:46] <s3r3n1t7_> Vaevictus, /var/log/messages if it isn't gone. There can also be a .bak version of it.
[15:46] <eoke> wookienz: I've found this which maybe of interest to you http://www.unix.com/ubuntu/123074-cant-update-use-package-manager-gpg-error-2.html
[15:47] <Vaevictus> s3r3n1t7_: i use logrotate, so i have it ... i'm looking through them
[15:47] <AdamSewell> Does anyone know how to get the mic working on a LiveCam VX-5000, specifically with Skype? Ubuntu 10.04
[15:50] <AnxiousNut> s3r3n1t7_, \o/ the dist-upgrade did it, thanks :)
[15:50] <s3r3n1t7_> AnxiousNut, you're welcome.
[15:51] <arvind_khadri> AnxiousNut, the - means that these many were done
[15:51] <eveningwoodslee> 大家好？
[15:51] <bazhang> !cn | eveningwoodslee
[15:51] <ohir> Vaevictus: got my messages? (before I get disconnected)
[15:51] <NetRoY> HELP guys ... I have multiple uvcvideo devices (/dev/video0,/dev/video1.. etc).... and an application that uses libv4l2 .... how do I select which device to use with the app....??? by default its picking up video0 ... I remember some sorta env variable ... not sure .. HELP
[15:52] <AnxiousNut> arvind_khadri, thanks for passing the piece of info, i appreciate it, thank you
[15:54] <Vaevictus> ohir: i said "you think a wordpress install could crash the linux kernel? "
[15:55] <BigC> Does anybody know if a thinkpad t410 will be conpatible with ubuntu? I found this link here, and it says that it is compatible, but I want to make sure first, before I buy this laptop.
[15:55] <BigC> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T410
[15:56] <cronicded> Greetings, curious if anyone is familiar with a problem with padlock-sha.ko loading on kernel boot? I've read several older and more recent BUG reports in regard to the kernel module not loading. However, in most cases individuals reporting the system works normally and it seems they're able to access their device. In my case, I am not.
[15:57] <cronicded> Specifically, I'm running Lucid and have tried several different kernel iterations via INSTALL CD repair/recovery shell
[15:57] <cronicded> In my case, the device comes up on the network, but I am unable to SSH or access a console terminal to it. The system hangs just after a message similar to: "modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting padlock_sha (/lib/modules/2.6.32-21-server/kernel/drivers/crypto/padlock-sha.ko): No such device". I have tried alias'ing sha256 and aes as suggested in reports, as well as blacklisting the module entirely. When doing so, the system seems to still hang, as it i
[15:58] <zeal__> i create DEB from QT-project and it write files to home folder with wrong perms
[15:58] <wookienz> eoke: cant see a real solution there for me, so i will just download the sio and update the OS from that!
[15:58] <zeal__> can u help me?
[15:58] <Vaevictus> s3r3n1t7_: okay... i've looked through the logs.  apache doesn't show anyhting too interesting, except a bunch of child process wakeups in the access.log
[15:59] <beppo> hello
[15:59] <Vaevictus> which may be due to the fact that stuff was being killed off
[15:59] <Vaevictus> did isolate the time of the crash though
[15:59] <beppo> my system really stucks hard when the harddisk are operatting, e.g copy, unrar
[15:59] <OneQ> HI~ This is my first chat. ^^
[15:59] <wookienz> what MB/s should you see copying from one HDD to another HDD on the same system using SATAII?
[15:59] <s3r3n1t7_> Vaevictus, and the kernel messages? Those should be in /var/log/messages
[15:59] <beppo> i have a dell perc6 and lucid
[16:00] <eoke> wookienz: As far as I can gather the solution was/is to recompile that package from source and then perform an update.  However I can understand you might not be comfortable with that and in honesty I'd do it on my own machine but I'm not comfortable enough to guide you through it on your machine.
[16:00] <Vaevictus> s3r3n1t7_: no sign of them there in vl/messages
[16:00] <beppo> anyone an idea?
[16:00] <zeal__> can anybody help me with DEB creation???
[16:00] <s3r3n1t7_> Vaevictus, does the server do anything special around the time of the crash?
[16:00] <abhi_nav_> beppo, yes?
[16:00] <Vaevictus> s3r3n1t7_: nope, not even a blip around the crash time
[16:00] <wookienz> eoke: yeah thanks... where would i even begin to find the source files?
[16:00] <abhi_nav_> beppo, sorry not for you
[16:01] <ohir> Vaevictus: I think that exp_loit that rode in on Wordpress back might at ro_otkit install time
[16:01] <s3r3n1t7_> Vaevictus, hmm ... very odd ... i don't suppose you've set logrotate on the kernel messages?
[16:01] <ohir> Vaevictus: spurious oops and panic usually is either because of falling hardware or bad (unfitted) expl_oit code
[16:01] <ohir> Vaevictus: former being most popular though (unless you and your domain are quite known)
[16:02] <ohir> Vaevictus: so, yes. Your panic could be effect of roo_tkitting your box
[16:02] <s3r3n1t7_> ohir, why are you using so many _ in those words? It's not cursing ... you're helping someone ...
[16:02] <Vaevictus> ohir: yeah, i'd agree, except the panic wasn't a process: the kernel killed off all processes and still crashed.
[16:02] <tyrosine> test
[16:02] <s3r3n1t7_> Vaevictus, i'd advise checking the software you have running for some updates
[16:02] <Vaevictus> s3r3n1t7_: i'm guessing auto-ban on that kinda stuff :)
[16:02] <zeal__> how setup file perrmissions for DEB creation???
[16:02] <wookienz> eoke: screw it ill give it a go!
[16:02] <s3r3n1t7_> Vaevictus, i doubt it, the ops ain't that harsh in here
[16:02] <ohir> and now gimme that f*** id*ot who did filter by h4ck3rz W0rd5
[16:03] <bazhang> ohir, watch the language
[16:03] <Vaevictus> s3r3n1t7_: hate to upgrade stuff blindly without knowing why the crash happened :(
[16:03] <geekbuntu> anyone know how i can compress a file and have it be password protected? (tia)
[16:04] <s3r3n1t7_> Vaevictus, i didn't say upgrade immediately, but there maybe a security leak detected in one of the pieces of software you have running which could have been exploited
[16:04] <eoke> wookienz: I've found a copy at ftp://ftp.cwru.edu/pub/bash/readline-6.1.tar.gz but I'm not sure if it's the best place from which to get it.
[16:04] <Vaevictus> s3r3n1t7_: aye, true.
[16:04] <wookienz> eoke: got one, ran ./configure, and make, looks all fine... now what?
[16:04] <Vaevictus> s3r3n1t7_: is there an easy ubuntu way to do that?
[16:04] <abhi_nav> geekbuntu, truecrypt?
[16:04] <xMopx> Is there a way to get a screenshot result like this: http://i.imgur.com/X47BT.jpg - On a headless box?
[16:04] <geekbuntu> abhi_nav: just wanted to do it from a cron job
[16:04] <s3r3n1t7_> Vaevictus, apt-get update and check how many show up?
[16:04] <eoke> wookienz: Try your "sudo aptitude update" again
[16:05] <hjohnson_> hi
[16:05] <abhi_nav> geekbuntu, hmm
[16:05] <geekbuntu> abhi_nav: hopefully command line :)
[16:05] <ohir_> bazhang: did you notice the asterisks? didn't you?
[16:05] <wookienz> eoke: no joy. do i need to move the newly "make'd" file? or does it install it directly as part of the process/
[16:05] <hjohnson_> is their a way to make your custom distibution of linux?
[16:05] <abhi_nav> ok
[16:05] <zeal__> can anybody help me with DEB creation???
[16:05] <eoke> wookienz: "make install" often installs it
[16:05] <Vaevictus> s3r3n1t7_: update doesn't change thingS?'
[16:06] <bazhang> ohir_, its still not acceptable. thanks for keeping it family friendly here
[16:06] <marcuy> how can I know on what channel or device is the sound output (hw or /dev/dsp..?)
[16:06] <ohir_> bazhang: yes, you're right.
[16:06] <s3r3n1t7_> Vaevictus, apt-get update <= checks for avaiable updates, upgrade does an upgrade. So update doesn't change, upgrade does.
[16:06] <wookienz> eoke: ok that worked, but update doesnt! ;(
[16:07] <tyroPod> yo boys... im on an ipod touch wirh irssi and it sucks!! console emulator so buggy
[16:07] <eoke> wookienz: Sorry wookienz that and the incorrect date are the only two causes I'm aware of.
[16:07] <ohir_> bazhang: and now help me spot the place where h4ck3rz words are filtered, would you?
[16:07] <jqgc1> intel i7860 CPU: amd64 or ia64 ? how can i tell? (can't cat /proc/cpuinfo, no access to the machine atm)
[16:07] <bazhang> ohir_, not sure what you are trying to do, please clarify
[16:07] <wookienz> eoke: right o thanks. ISO comgin down in abut 10 mins so ill install of that
[16:07] <eoke> wookienz: Best of luck and at least you had a go which is often half the battle.
[16:08] <Vaevictus> s3r3n1t7_: doesn't mention anything afaict.
[16:08] <krabador> excuse me , to use the changes in /etc/network/interfaces, what i must restart?
[16:08] <Vaevictus> s3r3n1t7_: ends with fetched and reading package lists... Done
[16:08] <ohir_> bazhang: I got 5 times in row disconnected (and a few times more in the past) right after I used exp_loit or ro_otkit word.
[16:08] <geekbuntu> abhi_nav: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/zip.1.html  <--maybe?  looks like the older ubuntu distro has a zip package that has a switch "-p" that can be run from teh command line... let's hope it works in later versions too!
[16:08] <blackxored> i'm becoming lame, i used to know how to do this, but obviously i'm doing it wrong, i want this setup i want my machine to work as a gateway for my phone, i want all traffic originating from my phone to be proxied by the tor and polipo setup i've got, i want to make some iptables rules to make dports 80 and 443 coming from <phone source ip> to be i belive redirected to the 8118 port and i want to take responses aka secondary connections or an
[16:08] <blackxored> ything back to my phone, how can i achieve this
[16:09] <abhi_nav> geekbuntu, dunno about cron job. i thought you just wanted to encrypt a folder.
[16:09] <ohir_> bazhang: and I would like to know where deep packet inspection takes place
[16:09] <ohir_> bazhang: watch: exploit
[16:09] <ohir_> bazhang: watch: rootkit
[16:09] <geekbuntu> abhi_nav: the plan is to use python to compress a list of files i want to store, then a cron job to lock it up, then back it up to our works svn server (just don't want my lnks/email etc sitting out there wide open)
[16:10] <DarkStar1> lsb_release -a
[16:10] <bazhang> ohir_, no idea what you are talking about
[16:10] <abhi_nav> geekbuntu, I dont know anything about 'cron'
[16:10] <s3r3n1t7_> Vaevictus, hmm, mine shows a tally at the end. You can still check by performing a simulated update with apt-get upgrade -s (the -s is simulating, check in the help of apt-get)
[16:10] <ohir_> bazhang: ok, might be coincidence
[16:10] <geekbuntu> abhi_nav: it's okay - i have the first and third part working
[16:10] <geekbuntu> :)
[16:10] <ohir_> bazhang: just weird one
[16:11] <blackxored> anyone?
[16:11]  * ohir apologize :)
[16:11] <tyroPod> testing 123
[16:11] <Vaevictus> s3r3n1t7_: looks like a lot of stuff.mysql, apache, looks like java is on there.  sudo, lol
[16:12] <blackxored> i've tried iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 8118 didn't worked, and also iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s <phone_ip> -p tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT <mypc_ip>:8118,. either
[16:12] <Vaevictus> s3r3n1t7_: i've got a Dr appt in a few minutes, i've gotta run.  Thanks for your help so far.
[16:12] <s3r3n1t7_> Vaevictus, you're welcome. I got to go in 10min as well. Best of luck!
[16:12] <Vaevictus> ohir: cheers! ty!
[16:12] <ohir> Vaevictus: if you have that plenty vulnerable binaries in place I would suggest that you should set this box anew
[16:12] <Vaevictus> we'll see if it doesn't happen again.  ;_;
[16:13] <Vaevictus> "set this box anew" ?
[16:13] <s3r3n1t7_> ohir, having available updates does not mean vulnerable binaries in place. Please refrain from scaring people that way.
[16:13] <ohir> Vaevictus: you do not know if someone who was getting your box succeded. Safer is to assume he or she did
[16:13] <Vaevictus> and i'm still not convinced wordpress /could/ crash the linux kernel
[16:14] <Vaevictus> ohir: you're suggesting a format and reinstall?
[16:14] <Vaevictus> just to be clear?
[16:14] <drew212> Why/how would i get a disk boot failure if I did a fresh install of Ubuntu 10.04?
[16:14] <ohir> s3r3n1t7_: having avaliable updates means exactly that _not_ patched bineries _were_ on box when kernel panicked
[16:14] <ohir> Vaevictus: yes
[16:15] <ohir> s3r3n1t7_: the more that its 8.04. I have a few boxes running 8.04 and had not one kernel panic to date
[16:15] <s3r3n1t7_> ohir, and why do you assume they are vulnerable? Is the only reason to release an update to patch a hole? We're not using M$ you know ... And going from your assumption, you can best hide in a box and not talk to anyone. Who knows, your food and water might be poisoned.
[16:16] <ohir> s3r3n1t7_: have you read SA for sudo? What it was?
[16:16] <drew212> Why/how would i get a disk boot failure if I did a fresh install of Ubuntu 10.04?
[16:16] <s3r3n1t7_> ohir, SA?
[16:17] <funkyHat> s3r3n1t7_: saying "M$" just makes you look childish, and actually the main reason for updates to a stable version of Ubuntu or Debian is security patches. However I still wouldn't be quite as paranoid as ohir ;)
[16:17] <ohir> s3r3n1t7_: rule of thumb is that if you may assume your box is pwned and you are not sure, you have to pay your price for not updating in time
[16:17] <s3r3n1t7_> ohir, I do not see a reason why his box would be pwnd. I would investigate first and make conclusions later.
[16:18] <ohir> s3r3n1t7_: Security Advisory. That piece of ascii that comes with patches and updates. Stating reason for update.
[16:18] <IdleOne> I think as interesting as this convo is it should be moved to #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:18] <barfster> How can I copy from one disk to another and still have a bootable system?
[16:18] <s3r3n1t7_> funkyHat, I'm only typing M$ because 1. you have to pay for it and 2. It' easier then typing Microsoft. No reason to be childish or anything.
[16:18] <abhi_nav> barfster, you want to copy whole system?
[16:18] <ohir> s3r3n1t7_: but you may not, nor can I. So for his side of the story its safer to assume box was pwnd. And do it again.
[16:19] <barfster> like dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdc
[16:19] <barfster> But is that good enough?
[16:19] <s3r3n1t7_> IdleOne, funkyHat, ohir, We obviously disagree with each other on some parts. Let's conclude it at that. agreed?
[16:19] <funkyHat> barfster: yes that is enough. but be *very* *very* careful you get the input and output the right way around
[16:19] <IdleOne> s3r3n1t7: I have no opinion on the subject I just think it is out off scope for #ubuntu
[16:19] <barfster> But will it be bootable?
[16:20] <funkyHat> barfster: yes
[16:20] <ohir> Vaevictus: my advice is to do box anew. And have it updated next time :)
[16:20] <ohir> s3r3n1t7_: ok. EOT.
[16:20] <barfster> Or will I have to change IDE sequence?
[16:20] <barfster> Will this work on a running system?
[16:20] <funkyHat> barfster: you're copying from one disc to another and then leaving both discs in the same computer? You might have to change the boot order in the bios
[16:21] <funkyHat> barfster: not likely, use a live CD
[16:21] <root> ello
[16:21] <funkyHat> !hi Guest55282
[16:21] <funkyHat> !hi |Guest55282
[16:21] <barfster> Perhaps there is a command line in ubuntu mini cd?
[16:22] <Guest55282> Im testing Back Track 4, its a brave new world
[16:22] <narcos> Hello all! Could anyone recommend a method to convert a bunch of .JPGs into .avi or .mpg?
[16:22] <bazhang> Guest55282, #backtrack-linux for support not here
[16:23] <funkyHat> barfster: I would think so. Can't guarantee it will have dd, but I expect it does
[16:24] <barfster> funkyHat: are there other tools that might give the same result; Bootable copy of the running system?
[16:25] <funkyHat> barfster: clonezilla would do, and I think that handles different drive sizes better too
[16:25] <Guest55282> fish sticks Mmmmmm
[16:26] <funkyHat> Guest55282: please join #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat and chat about fish sticks, this channel is for support only
[16:26] <Guest55282> Def not in win no more
[16:26] <bazhang> Guest55282, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic ; bt4 support in #backtrack-linux
[16:26] <clrg> Off topic: a
[16:26] <clrg> Anyone from US east cost? What time is it there?
[16:27] <Guest55282> sorry folks
[16:28] <ohir> clrg: right click on clock->preferences->places->add place ;)
[16:30] <clrg> ohir: Right, I forgot. Thanks for the tip :>
[16:31] <abhi_nav> eashy to look into your wristwatch?
[16:31] <saliak> hi, i'm trying to resize my boot partition (ext3) using gparted but for some reason the "resize" option is not available.  any idea what's going on?
[16:31] <saliak> this is in a VM, FYI
[16:31] <clrg> abhi_nav: I'm currently in Switzerland, and I don't know the time difference.
[16:32] <abhi_nav> saliak, you need to unmount it first
[16:32] <saliak> and it's /dev/sda1. sorry for the repeated posts
[16:32] <saliak> ah
[16:32] <abhi_nav> ????
[16:32] <clrg> saliak: Use a live disk. I guess /dev/sda1 is / or /boot, and unmounting / while running is not a good idea
[16:32] <saliak> so how would one do that with a VM?
[16:33] <Lim0n> how do i get rid of this icon?
[16:33] <Lim0n> http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7913/screenshotey.png
[16:34] <SteffJay> Hello chaps. Heres the problem: While installing 10.04, it loads ok up to 79% then states "Requiring files 2 of 11" then graduates to 13 of 40 and so on. Then goes back to 2 of 11. Here is the error after i hit the "skip" button and it finishes loading the OS. First screen:
[16:34] <SteffJay> Could not download all repository indexes
[16:34] <SteffJay> The repository may no longer be available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and ensure the repository address in the preferences is correct.
[16:34] <SteffJay> Second Screen:
[16:34] <SteffJay> An error occurred
[16:34] <FloodBot4> SteffJay: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:34] <clrg> saliak: The same way you would with a physical machine.
[16:34] <abhi_nav> !paste > SteffJay
[16:34] <drew212> anyone able to help me reinstall grub? i'm encountering some errors
[16:34] <abhi_nav> drew212, which erros? use pastebin
[16:34] <Slasher`> does anyone know of a utility i can install to check the legitimate space on a chinese microsd card?
[16:35] <Lim0n> just mount it...
[16:35] <clrg> drew212: Supergrubdisk.org
[16:35] <abhi_nav> Lim0n, you want to change or remove that icon?
[16:35] <Lim0n> abhi_nav: remove, so applications is the left-most thing i see on that panel
[16:35] <Slasher`> it's mounted, and says 17gb (it's a 16gb card) - i was under the impression that memory cards could "fake" what they report
[16:35] <drew212> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/459888/
[16:36] <abhi_nav> Lim0n, I dont think thats possible. probably try to replace menu with mint menu. but I am not sure.
[16:36] <webPragmatist> is mount —bind old new the proper way to just "rename" a mount point/
[16:36] <Lim0n> abhi_nav: how would i go about doing that
[16:36] <drew212> abhi_nav: i'm trying to recover from a disk boot error
[16:36] <Lim0n> abhi_nav: nvm i got it, thanks
[16:36] <clrg> webPragmatist: No. Unmount, rename, mount is the proper procedure
[16:36] <webPragmatist> whats bind do ?
[16:36] <erUSUL> webPragmatist: no; mount --bind does not rename a mountpoint afaics
[16:36] <webPragmatist> it seems like it moves it
[16:37] <webPragmatist> One can also mount an already visible directory tree elsewhere:
[16:37] <abhi_nav> Lim0n, tell me how to
[16:37] <webPragmatist> oh it's more like a symlink?
[16:37] <abhi_nav> Lim0n, what you got? change or remove?
[16:37] <drew212> abhi_nav: any advice?
[16:38] <erUSUL> webPragmatist: man mount ---> Remount a subtree somewhere else (so that its contents are available in both places). See above.
[16:38] <abhi_nav> drew212, no.
[16:38] <SteffJay> http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[16:38] <abhi_nav> !fixgrub | drew212 try this guide:
[16:38] <SteffJay> http://paste.ubuntu.com/459887/
[16:38] <webPragmatist> erUSUL: I read that tyvm but it doesn't mean i know what it means to remount a subtree
[16:38] <drew212> abhi_nav: i'm having troubles after a fresh install of 10.04 =X
[16:39] <abhi_nav> drew212, you said that you were updating grub?
[16:39] <erUSUL> webPragmatist: it just mounts the same thing i two places. you have procfs mounted in /proc/ and want it mounted in /mnt/ubuntu/proc/ you just do « sudo mount --bind /proc/ /mnt/ubuntu/proc/ »
[16:39] <webPragmatist> I see
[16:39] <webPragmatist> thanks
[16:40] <drew212> abhi_nav: we'll i'm trying to get it to install to my MBR because i get a disk boot failure every time i start up without a disk in the drive
[16:40] <LJRuff> webPragmatist, Enter (Return) != Spacebar / Punctuation. =)
[16:40] <drew212> abhi_nav: when you reformat and do a fresh install of ubuntu it doesn't reinstall grub?
[16:40] <herrfisk> milkshake ftw !
[16:40] <erUSUL> webPragmatist: instead of using « sudo mount -t procfs /mnt/ubuntu/proc/ »
[16:40] <abhi_nav> drew212, dual booting?
[16:40] <drew212> abhi_nav: i was, but i'm not anymore...
[16:41]  * Seppoz hihi
[16:41] <drew212> abhi_nav: i encountered a problem with my windows partition, so i reformatted the whole drive, got rid of my old ubuntu and windows for a fresh install
[16:41] <LJRuff> abhi_nav, if he was dual-booting the other OS would boot in GRUB's place. Especially if it was the Legacy Operating System, which is well known for overwriting the MBR.
[16:41] <kanhiya> is there any software for online trading in ubuntu
[16:41] <LJRuff> kanhiya, google-fu
[16:41] <ghoti> Can someone remind me what I add to xorg.conf to make ctrl-alt-backspace work again?
[16:41] <abhi_nav> LJRuff, :)
[16:42] <SteffJay> Can anybody give me an idea as to how i can resolve this problem? http://paste.ubuntu.com/459887/ and http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[16:42] <LJRuff> abhi_nav, =P My thoughts anyway...
[16:42] <sebsebseb> kanhiya: online trading so what exactly are you after?
[16:42] <kanhiya> LJRuff: what is that
[16:42] <sebsebseb> Seppoz: that was LJRuff being stupid
[16:42] <sebsebseb> kanhiya: that was lyrae being stupid
[16:42] <sebsebseb> !google
[16:42] <rvause> Anyone know how I might get myself out of this pickle? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1475341
[16:42] <LJRuff> kanhiya, the skill all hackers must learn to get anyway in the world. Apply it to www.google.com and there's no telling where you might go! =D
[16:43] <LJRuff> Lol, hi sebsebseb, how are you bud?
[16:43] <NoiseEee> anyone else experience a LONG WAIT for the passoword prompt when logging in to ubuntu servers over SSH?
[16:43] <MaRk-I> ghoti: syste/preferences/keyboard/layout options "key sequence to kill the X server"  check
[16:43] <sebsebseb> kanhiya: Which program  do you watn to replace or run?
[16:44] <kanhiya> software should be secure:)
[16:44] <abhi_nav> kanhiya, nothing is secure when on internet.
[16:44] <sebsebseb> abhi_nav: indeed @ that
[16:44] <kanhiya> sebsebseb: i got ODIN in India from my broker
[16:44] <abhi_nav> sebsebseb, hmm?
[16:44] <equity> same
[16:44] <ghoti> MaRk-I: I thought it was something in ServerFlags...  My window manager is busted at the moment and I can't launch new X apps, or I'd search it myself...
[16:44] <sebsebseb> abhi_nav: Internet comment
[16:45] <abhi_nav> sebsebseb, ohh ok
[16:45] <kanhiya> sebsebseb: but it works on windows
[16:45] <sebsebseb> kanhiya: yeah
[16:45] <sebsebseb> kanhiya: well maybe Wine
[16:45] <sebsebseb> !wine | kanhiya
[16:45] <ghoti> MaRk-I: Also, your instruction assumes I'm using gnome...
[16:46] <kanhiya> sebsebseb: it did not work under wine
[16:46] <MaRk-I> ghoti: for kde there's #kubuntu ;)
[16:46] <sebsebseb> kanhiya: or a Windows virtual machine with enough RAM and such.   the Ubuntu repos probably don't really have what your after, but might have.  You may be able to find something on http://www.sf.net or http://www.freshmeat.net
[16:46] <LJRuff> ghoti, your being in #ubuntu assumes you're on GNOME as GNOME is the default desktop for Ubuntu.
[16:46] <wookienz> any apt experts here. I cant update and thus upgrade. I have tried local CD's, no joy, i have changed mirrors, no luck. I think there is a bug with gpgc and lireadline.so
[16:47] <ghoti> LJRuff: Well, if my window manager was working, perhaps I'd have a System menu, but until I restart X, I can't see if that works....  I'll use Lynx.
[16:48] <LJRuff> ghoti, Your WM isn't working? Was it before?
[16:48] <sebsebseb> kanhiya: might be able to configure it to
[16:48] <sebsebseb> !virutalbox | kanhiya
[16:48] <sebsebseb> !virtualbox | kanhiya
[16:48] <AnxiousNut> Is there a way to make xchat's input box bigger?
[16:48] <sebsebseb> kanhiya: both versions are free as in price, version from repo lacks USB support, other version has it
[16:48] <sebsebseb> !freedom
[16:48] <abhi_nav> kanhiya, which city/
[16:48] <abhi_nav> ?
[16:49] <Vaevictus> anyone know if there's a way to find how how much memory kernel modules are using?
[16:49] <Mwen____> hello every body !
[16:49] <PennStateJoe74> i recently moved to a new house and re-did my setup.  one of the things i had to do was take my sata dvd/cd rom drive and connect it via a 10 foot usb cable using a sata to usb adapter.  now ubuntu no longer seems to recognize the drive.  any suggestions...
[16:50] <xiong> AnxiousNut, You can enlarge the entire window and make it wider/longer.
[16:50] <LJRuff> !hi | Mwen____
[16:50] <AnxiousNut> xiong, i mean to make it multiline
[16:50] <PennStateJoe74> nothing in /etc/fstab about that drive.  maybe a udev rule needs to be changed or something
[16:51] <xiong> AnxiousNut, Probably not. Dunno.
[16:51] <Mwen____> i want to view the source code of the kernel of linux, where can i find it and download it too?
[16:51] <AnxiousNut> xiong thanks anyways
[16:51] <GNU\colossus> someone in here using pam_ssh on Ubuntu 10.04?
[16:51] <kanhiya> i am not so much  familiar with sun's virtual box
[16:51] <LJRuff> Mwen____, http://www.kernel.org/
[16:51] <xiong> AnxiousNut, Sorry.
[16:52] <ManDay> Is tehre a way to change the brush-size in GIMP with the mouse scrolling wheel?
[16:53] <LJRuff> ManDay, #gimp
[16:53] <abhi_nav> kanhiya, its very easy to setup and use.
[16:53] <abhi_nav> !virtualbox > kanhiya
[16:55] <erUSUL> Mwen____: kernel.org has the vanilla kernels. for the version ubuntu uses install linux-source
[16:55] <tomatto_> /usr/bin/X: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so: undefined symbol: drmCheckModesettingSupported
[16:55] <tomatto_> what can i do with?
[16:56] <MaRk-I> ghoti: anyway I "assumed" since you didnt mention ur wm not working and the gnome well another story:  "ServerFlags"   Option "DontZap" "False" # disable <Ctrl><Alt><BS>
[16:58] <kanhiya> thanx for help let me take a try,hope this will work,
[16:58] <kanhiya> but what about security of transactions
[16:59] <Mwen____> i can program in C. can i modify the kernel of linux
[16:59] <ghoti> MaRk-I: Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for.
[16:59] <Mwen____> ?
[17:00] <MaRk-I> ghoti: yw
[17:00] <oCean_> Mwen____: See here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[17:00] <Spamicles> trying to boot from latest ubuntu iso to install on a dimension 5100c. i choose to load from cd, and i get a blank (slightly purplish) screen except for a little icon at the bottom that looks like film, an equal sign, and a little man with a circle around him. does this mean its loading or is it waiting for me to do something?
[17:00] <erUSUL> Mwen____: you can try
[17:00] <erUSUL> Mwen____: kernelnewbies.org
[17:00] <abhi_nav_> I am back. I was disconnected. :9
[17:00] <abhi_nav_> :(
[17:01] <LJRuff> Welcome back, abhi_nav
[17:01] <abhi_nav_> :)
[17:01] <thomas> Hey can some 1 help me with some terminal command (Looking for a pro ubuntu commander)
[17:01] <LJRuff> !ask | thomas
[17:01] <Mwen____> thanks!
[17:02] <LJRuff> thomas, basically all of the regulars here are "pro ubuntu commanders". Just state what you need and one of us will be delighted to help you.
[17:02] <thomas> !ask thomas
[17:02] <Guest59590> hello everyone, why there are files named "1" in some directories in my filesystem ?
[17:03] <erUSUL> Guest59590: you made some mistakes with a command ?
[17:03] <LJRuff> . o O ( erUSUL makes me smile saying what I'm thinking sometimes...)
[17:03] <Guest59590> erUSUL, i don't know, cannot confirm it
[17:03] <Mwen____> how can i print in consolo? like a document.
[17:03] <erUSUL> :)
[17:03] <LJRuff> Mwen____, less will display it in a format that you can scroll through
[17:03] <erUSUL> Mwen____: lpr file
[17:04] <erUSUL> Mwen____: lpr is for printing to the default printer ... maybe i missunderstood you
[17:04] <tomatto_> why ubuntu runs with failsafe X server?
[17:04] <LJRuff> erUSUL, I was thinking the same thing. Mwen____ please clairfy what you mean by print
[17:05] <Guest59590> erUSUL, is this file created when i make command mistakes ? how can i reproduce this ?
[17:05] <Mwen____> printing using a printer, a default one.
[17:05] <LJRuff> Guest59590, open up your terminal and use the up arrow to scroll through commands you previously made.
[17:06] <LJRuff> Mwen____, then follow erUSUL's suggestion and usr lpr
[17:06] <erUSUL> Guest59590: maybe you did cp some_file 1 newname_with_a_number
[17:06] <erUSUL> Guest59590: the shell will see the space and copy some_file to a file named 1
[17:06] <Spamicles> im getting a purple screen with some icons (stick man in a circle) when trying to boot from cd and install ubuntu. how can i fix this? ive checked google and people mention hitting f6 or spacebar, but this doesn't do anything. can anyone help?
[17:07] <Mwen____> printing a pdf file in command line.
[17:07] <erUSUL> Mwen____: lpr file.pdf
[17:07] <LJRuff> Spamicles, hit a key
[17:07] <Guest59590> erUSUL, LJRuff, there is a lot of them throughout my filesystem i guess some app is causing this
[17:07] <Spamicles> LJRuff, nothing. the little guy is still there
[17:07] <LJRuff> Spamicles, it's a splash screen. Just hit any key to get around it to the boot menu for the live CD.
[17:08] <LJRuff> Spamicles, really? Hmmm
[17:08] <abhi_nav> anyone teach me how to use date command to convert utc to my local time?
[17:08] <Spamicles> LJRuff, is it possible my screen alignment is bad and im not seeing menu options or something?
[17:08] <LJRuff> Spamicles, it should not be. Did you check the md5sum of the .iso you downloaded and burned?
[17:08] <Spamicles> LJRuff, nope. i got it from the official ubuntu site about 10 min ago.
[17:09] <erUSUL> Guest59590: are they empty?
[17:09] <Mwen____> thanks
[17:09] <abhi_nav> LJRuff, can you teache me to use date command?
[17:09] <LJRuff> Spamicles, always check the md5sum even if it comes from a trusted source. The download might have been corrupted.
[17:09] <Guest59590> erUSUL, no they are not, but i cannot say what the content means
[17:10] <LJRuff> abhi_nav, man <command> to learn all about it. It's the Hacker Way. Learn it. Love it. =)
[17:10] <erUSUL> Guest59590: run « file 1 »
[17:10] <abhi_nav> LJRuff, I know that. But confusion.
[17:10] <Guest59590> erUSUL, 1: UTF-8 Unicode English text, with CRLF, LF line terminators
[17:11] <erUSUL> Guest59590: a normal text file?
[17:11] <Spamicles> LJRuff, would a corrupt install boot?
[17:11] <LJRuff> Spamicles, I'd recommend downloading another .iso, running a checksum (you *need* to do this. We *cannot* help you or verify the authenticity of the image unless you check it!!!) and then burning it as slowly as your software/hardware will allow.
[17:11] <Guest59590> erUSUL, yes it's readable text, but does not say much to me
[17:11] <LJRuff> Spamicles, it might - it depends on what is corrupted and what isn't.
[17:11] <erUSUL> Guest59590: paste it ?
[17:11] <erUSUL> !pastebin
[17:11] <LJRuff> abhi_nav, you need to transfer from utc to local?
[17:11] <abhi_nav> LJRuff, yes. to attend ubuntu devleoper week
[17:12] <P-Nuts> I've just upgraded to Lucid from Jaunty, and I don't like the monochrome panel icons.  How do I get the colorful ones back?
[17:12] <Riotta> is it possible to mount nfs share in fstab using two ip 192.168.1.1-192.168.1.2 like that in one entry?
[17:12] <LJRuff> abhi_nav, http://www.computerhope.com/unix/udate.htm
[17:12] <rmrfslash> Is there a minimal Ubuntu installer e.g. the smallest possible ubuntu release a la DSL or TinyCore?
[17:12] <sebsebseb> !minimal | rmrfslash
[17:13] <erUSUL> abhi_nav: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/
[17:13] <Guest59590> erUSUL, http://paste.ubuntu.com/459902/
[17:14] <oCean_> Riotta: using 2 ipadresses for 1 mount? Isn't that weird?
[17:15] <FabParma> i installed few applications from "Ubuntu Software Center" but i cant see the icons in the applications  menu. any idea? have i to rebuild the entire menu maybe by a command?
[17:15] <Vaevictus> Riotta: instead of two nfs lines? i don't think so, no
[17:15] <erUSUL> Guest59590: looks like ~/.xsession-errors or the log of some program
[17:15] <Riotta> oCean_: nope cause I got two adresses in network which are changing
[17:15] <kexsteve> I'm using a Line 6 toneport and got it to work as a usb sound card but I still don't know how to change its buffer size. Can someone help me?
[17:15] <Riotta> first who open up computer got first ip
[17:16] <oCean_> Riotta: in that case: the answer is no
[17:16] <Vaevictus> Riotta: nfs is from one box to one box. it doesn't support dynamically changing ip addresses.
[17:16] <LJRuff> FabParma, either reboot or run them from CLI to see if that loads the icon into the menu.
[17:16] <Vaevictus> Riotta: solve your dhcp problem.
[17:16] <Riotta> yeah but maybe it's possible to tell ip range
[17:16] <Riotta> fstab
[17:16] <oCean_> Riotta: nope
[17:16] <erUSUL> Riotta: make the server allways get the same ip from dhcp ( tweak the dhcp server ) ??
[17:16] <Vaevictus> Riotta: no.
[17:16] <Riotta> ok thx
[17:16] <Vaevictus> Riotta: just fix dhcp :)
[17:17] <Vaevictus> Riotta: "static dchp lease"
[17:17] <abhi_nav> LJRuff, erUSUL ok thanks. :)
[17:17] <selofi> buenas
[17:17] <FabParma> LJRuff: already done, nothing appens. imagine, one of that applications is virtualbox
[17:17] <erUSUL> !es | selofi
[17:17] <Riotta> will check that
[17:17] <Riotta> thx
[17:17] <barfster> I would like to make a small image for virtual machine to run bind/named, IPv4 and vim, what would be the minimum install for such a setup? I would assume starting from ubuntu minicd would be a good choice, but then what?
[17:17] <erUSUL> barfster: ubuntu has JeOS images for that iirc
[17:18] <AhmedBH> hi, i have two lucid installed on my computer so i have dualbooting and i created a EXT4 partition and when i move my data to that drive its fine and when i login from another lucid i cant access the drive i mean i can see it but it will disappear then, what do i do ?
[17:18] <LJRuff> FabParma, well you can always load the icons manually. Run << which <command >> to find out the command's path, then right click on the Applications menu, choose Edit Menus, then create new launchers where the command is the path to the command in bash.
[17:18] <sebsebseb> AhmedBH: Why dual boot two Lucid installs?
[17:19] <sebsebseb> AhmedBH: also you want a seperate /home really, to share between the same version or differnet versions of Ubuntu, or other Linux distros even
[17:19] <AhmedBH> sebsbseb: Good question, just i have GURB on 2nd and thats why because i am learning it so i dont wanna lose bootup so easily how ever so if i lose the boot up from the first i still will have GRUB on second so i can easily move up on second muhahah:P
[17:20] <AhmedBH> sebsebseb: Well no same Lucid LTS
[17:20] <erUSUL> !jeos
[17:20] <JohnRandom> hi everyone
[17:20] <erUSUL> barfster: ^
[17:20] <AhmedBH> actually i wanna have a ext4 partition for backup data etc :)
[17:20] <sebsebseb> !grub2 | AhmedBH
[17:20] <kexsteve> how to change audio buffer size for an usb sound card?
[17:20] <LJRuff> !hi | JohnRandom
[17:20] <AhmedBH> I have no problem with grub uh
[17:20] <JohnRandom> quick question, is this the right place to ask about mysql start up problems um lucid?
[17:20] <erUSUL> kexsteve: maybe in #alsa ??
[17:21] <sebsebseb> AhmedBH: you only really need one install of Ubuntu
[17:21] <JohnRandom> or would that rather be #mysqld?
[17:21] <AhmedBH> i just wanna create a ext4 partition which i can ACCESS from both lucid when i login could read and write thats it
[17:21] <AhmedBH> sebsebseb:  I guess i know that
[17:21] <sebsebseb> !home | AhmedBH
[17:21] <sebsebseb> AhmedBH: however sharing a home between distros uhmm or same version of Ubuntu uhmm
[17:22] <AhmedBH> sebsebseb: I even lost a natilous i dont know i changed the path or what ever i cant see the anything but wallpaper after login uh and few erros
[17:22] <Spamicles> LJRuff, the hashes match. what should i do now?
[17:22] <LJRuff> Spamicles, slow burn?
[17:22] <FabParma> LJRuff: ialready done once but it takes long times, in more i miss at least 30 icons...  how its possible that Ubuntu has not a sort of rebuild/refresh applications menu links/icons?
[17:23] <Q-Tipped> hello guys, i'm having a really strange problem. earlier on, i tried to install ubuntu using a really old live cd i had lying around. just as i was partitoning over my windows (i was partitoning the whole disk) there was a power cut. when the power came back on, i tried to restart the install, but now my HDD isn't being detected at all.
[17:23] <tomatto_> how can i reconfigure package xserver-xorg-video-intel
[17:23] <tomatto_> ?
[17:23] <Q-Tipped> ... I can't boot into it, either, so I'm stuck on this live CD
[17:23] <AhmedBH> Anyways i will check it myself :P peoples are sleepin in  here
[17:23] <sebsebseb> AhmedBH: How about moving your data to an external hard disk or something,  and then getting rid of both your Lucid installs, and only doing one, but before installing telling the installer to make a seperate /home ?
[17:23] <abhi_nav> LJRuff, may ask to do something?
[17:24] <LJRuff> abhi_nav, what's up?
[17:24] <abhi_nav> LJRuff, nothing. leave it.
[17:24] <Q-Tipped> anyone? :/
[17:24] <xiaoyang_> 大家啊好
[17:24] <aarondbowen> I have a question about virtualizing an existing version of XP located on a daisy chained 2nd HDD
[17:24] <LJRuff> !ch | xiaoyang_
[17:24] <terry_> like whats that
[17:24] <xiaoyang_> 我是新手，不知道怎么用xchat
[17:24] <LJRuff> !chinese | xiaoyang_
[17:24] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: ok
[17:25] <iflema> Q-Tipped what livecd? version? Is gparted listed under the desktop menu System / administration? how does it report the disk?
[17:25] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: 1.  If you lose power on an install  it will probably mess up a lot.  2.  Maybe your hard disk is broken.  3. An old Live CD for which version?
[17:25] <terry_> man kubuntu help here?
[17:25] <Q-Tipped> iflema no, it's not.
[17:26] <terry_> kubuntu help here?
[17:26] <abhi_nav> terry_, #kubunty
[17:26] <Q-Tipped> sebsebseb it's aeons old, i'm not sure what version it is. and yeah, i know. i don't think it's dead, though :/
[17:26] <xiaoyang_> Is this a English room???
[17:26] <abhi_nav> terry_, #kubuntu
[17:26] <sebsebseb> terry_: #kubuntu
[17:26] <nmvictor> is their a regexp to match an emty line?
[17:26] <xiaoyang_> what's mean??
[17:26] <aarondbowen> can anyone help with with a virtualizing issue?
[17:26] <abhi_nav> !en | xiaoyang_
[17:26] <xiaoyang_> I don't know
[17:26] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: ok well thats silly to install from a really old Live CD,  espesailly since the version will no longer be supported
[17:26] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: and then depending on the version it could be quite the thing to upgrade to a supported version
[17:27] <Q-Tipped> sebsebseb i know, i was intending to update after the install.
[17:27] <xiaoyang_> Please answer me,thank you
[17:27] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: plus you'll have Ext3 not Ext4, altough Ext4 doesn't really offer that much advantage anyway
[17:27] <nmvictor> I have never joined this channel to find less than 1000 nick, means ubuntu is a popular software among all free&opensource software with a channel in freenode
[17:27] <bazhang> xiaoyang_, /join #ubuntu-cn
[17:27] <Q-Tipped> sebsebseb, that's if i get the harddrive working again :P
[17:27] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: plus your system will be a bit more clean, if you don't upgrade from a previous version
[17:28] <nmvictor> is their a regexp to match an emty line?
[17:28] <Q-Tipped> sebsebseb if i could get my computer working again, i'll likely download the newest ubuntu install, burn it and format again
[17:28] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: well ##hardware for hardware issues
[17:29] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: and before burning the ISO contents to CD, good idea to check  that the ISO is good :)
[17:29] <sebsebseb> !md5sum
[17:29] <sebsebseb> !hashes
[17:29] <Q-Tipped> sebsebseb i'm not sure it's a hardware issue, is it? i know i say my harddrive's not working, but i just mean it's not being detected by the partitioner.
[17:29] <tomatto_> how run my ubuntu in low graphics mode/failsafe ? why? how to change it to right?
[17:30] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: well get the latest version now?  and if that won't detect the harddrive, probably a hardware issue
[17:30] <Q-Tipped> and i know it's being detected by the PC because when i try to boot from my HDD it says 'no bootable partiton detected'
[17:30] <Anonymous7234665> Hey guys, the folks at #antiactaplanning@irc.n0v4.com need a little help anybody care to pitch in?
[17:30] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: oh right ok
[17:30] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: yeah the install messed up
[17:30] <Q-Tipped> sebsebseb sorry if i explained it badly.
[17:30] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: so it can't boot anything up
[17:30] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: and you don't have Windows on there I guess?
[17:30] <Lim0n> how do i bind alt+f1 to open up mint menu?
[17:31] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: no partition, or well a partition that doesn't work properly, and yep no boot
[17:31] <abhi_nav> Lim0n, keyboard shortcuts
[17:31] <Q-Tipped> sebsebseb i had windows on there, but not anymore.
[17:31] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: I think it will be ok
[17:31] <Lim0n> abhi_nav: yeah the only thing i can figure out atm is alt_L
[17:31] <Lim0n> how would i make a "combo"
[17:31] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: get the latest Live CD or maybe 9.10, since thats better than 10.04 in quite a few ways really :D.  install that and yeah :)
[17:31] <velociostrich> I have an ethernet card that I've installed in a machine that I just put Ubuntu 9.10 server on, and I don't know how to get it to work. I know for a fact that it does work with 9.10 server out-of-the-box, but I've installed the card _after_ installing Ubuntu. The card shows up when I run lspci and lshw -class network, but for the latter, it says "DISABLED" next to the card name, and the device doesn't show up with ifconfig.
[17:32] <abhi_nav> ahhhh i just pressed alt + l & it cleared my xchat log
[17:32] <abhi_nav> :(
[17:32] <Q-Tipped> sebsebseb yeah, i'm a bigger fan of 9.04 that 10.04 :P i'll try, i can download it on the livecd and then put it on a USB Drive, right?
[17:32] <FabParma> Does Ubuntu or some application to rebuild/refresh the *applications menu links*? At the moment I missing many in my menu, to use them I need to launch via console or manually create link. It is so uncomfortable ;)
[17:32] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: yeah I much prefer 9.04  myself, to 9.10 or 10.04, thing is
[17:32] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: that version will run out of support at the end of October :(
[17:32] <soreau> velociostrich: Sounds like it isnt autoloading the appropriate driver for the ethernet card
[17:32] <Q-Tipped> sebsebseb well, hopefully the issues with 10 will be cleaned up by then :P
[17:32] <Anonymous7234665> http://www.pagereboot.com/?url=http://www.google.com/search?q=threat%20to%20internet%20privacy%20thanks%20to%20ACTA&refresh=4
[17:33] <velociostrich> soreau: how can I find out if the module is being loaded? It's some kind of 3Com card
[17:33] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: I have a feeling the Plymouth issues will be well there to stay
[17:33] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: or at least for quite a while yet
[17:33] <velociostrich> soreau: I can get specifics if necessary
[17:33] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: shame they didn't do Plymouth properly, like  Mandriva or Fedora and such.
[17:33] <soreau> velociostrich: You need to figure out what linux kernel module supports it, then load the driver with  modprobe
[17:33] <soreau> velociostrich: You need to figure out what linux kernel module supports it, then load the driver with  modprobe <module name>
[17:33] <Q-Tipped> sebsebseb hm. i haven't followed Ubuntu closely, if i'm honest. i switched to using a modified version of crunchbang a while back. yeah, it's a shame it didn't come out right. ubuntu's a good distro.
[17:34] <Njh> hey, I'm trying to mv a file using sudo, but I am getting "no tty present and no askpass program specified", anyone know how to fix this?
[17:34] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: from a blueprint I read for 10.10 though, it seems they may be fixing it a bit for that one,  I hope so :)
[17:34] <Lim0n> abhi_nav: the default is "<Control>Super_L" i've tried <Alt_L>F1, <F1>Alt_L. none of them bring up the menu :<
[17:34] <velociostrich> soreau: will try, thanks
[17:34] <Q-Tipped> sebsebseb cool :) so, if the partition's still not detected in 9.04, what'd you suggest?
[17:34] <abhi_nav> Lim0n, u in xchat too?
[17:34] <MaRk-I> Lim0n: just bind the "super" key
[17:34] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: anyway 9.04 sounds alright, and then you can upgrade to 10.10 when that runs out of support
[17:34] <soreau> velociostrich: Try lspci, then google the relevant output for the model etc and search with keyword ubuntu
[17:34] <Lim0n> irssi
[17:35] <nmvictor> velociostrich: sudo cat /etc/modules, to check if a module is automatically loaded, if not, append the module name to the contents of that file, sudo echo "module_name" >> /etc/modules
[17:35] <velociostrich> soreau: do you know the name of that configuration file that says what modules to load? because I have another machine that I could SSH into and see what module it loads -- that's the machine that I borrowed the card from
[17:35] <tomatto_> why run my ubuntu in low graphics mode/failsafe ? why? how to change it to right?
[17:35] <soreau> velociostrich: If its a really new model card, it might only be supported in newer kernels
[17:35] <abhi_nav> Lim0n, try MaRk-I 's suggestin
[17:35] <velociostrich> soreau: no, it's pretty ancient
[17:35] <soreau> ok
[17:35] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: if 9.04 won't detect the hard disk, well I guess there is a hard disk failure or something
[17:35] <Lim0n> yeah that works, but i just wanna know how to make a combination bind :\
[17:35] <Lim0n> i dunno the syntax to make them
[17:36] <abhi_nav> me too
[17:36] <soreau> velociostrich: AFAIK, there is a blacklist for modules but it should autodetect and autoload everything else
[17:36] <velociostrich> soreau: *facepalm* I can't SSH into the machine that I borrowed the card from, because it doesn't have a card in it -- d'oh! I'll just have to search for the card with lspci output
[17:36] <nmvictor> tomatto_: tampered with your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, if you are using. if not you might need to use it
[17:36] <soreau> velociostrich: Right, I was wondering when you said that..
[17:36] <velociostrich> soreau: thanks for the help; I'll try googling
[17:36] <tomatto_> nmvictor: have some xorg.conf for intel graphics card?
[17:37] <Q-Tipped> sebsebseb, i don't understand it, though. i mean, the harddrive's working, obviously, because i get an error message saying it can find 'no bootable partitons' during startup. :S
[17:37] <tomatto_> gma950
[17:37] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: yes
[17:37] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: I told you already
[17:37] <sebsebseb> Q-Tipped: your install messed up, so it can't boot
[17:37] <Q-Tipped> oh, i thought you meant that the hard disk failure means that it would be a hardware error, sebsebseb, sorry.
[17:38] <nmvictor> tomatto_: na, only have one in my ibook g4, might help though, let me fire it up and paste it over, wanna have it?
[17:38] <tomatto_> nmvictor: yes i wanna have it
[17:39] <julianoliver> hi. i am trying to diagnose why my install of a lightly customised Ubuntu always boots read only. i've remounted it as rw and it works fine and ensured that /etc/fstab has entries identical to my other Ubuntu and debian installs where applicable. any ideas?
[17:39] <Slart> julianoliver: nothing weird in the grub boot line?
[17:39] <Q-Tipped> sebsebseb, how can i make 9.04 run from a usb stick? i can't use the startup disc maker, because it isn't included in this version.
[17:40] <nmvictor> tomatto_: ok, gine my old ibook some time to fire up, its quite old
[17:40] <sav> is there any problem with ubuntu package server for jaunty? I can't get updates.
[17:40] <nmvictor> tomatto_: give*
[17:40] <abhi_nav> !unetbootin | Q-Tipped
[17:40] <nmvictor> tomatto_: i'll be back,
[17:41] <iflema> Q-Tipped what else is on the drive? anything important?
[17:41] <julianoliver> Slart: nothing at all, at least to me. identical to my other installs.
[17:42] <Slart> julianoliver: and nothing in the logs?
[17:42] <insider> Need assistance, Konqueror file manager 3.5.1 does not save my view mode for each folder individually, i changed /home/user/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc MainViewSettings section but it didn't help
[17:42] <sav> insider: shouldn't irc as root. "they" will p0wn you.
[17:43] <timemachine3030> after my upgrade to 10.04 I'm having strange redirect problem when trying to go to google.com ... any clue where to start tracking down what is causing this?
[17:43] <abhi_nav> insider, ubuntu or kubuntu?
[17:43] <aeon-ltd> sav: why not run irc as root, besides it being unneccessary/
[17:43] <insider> ubuntu
[17:44] <julianoliver> Slart: dmesg is full of output that the file system is read only. nothing in /var/ is written of course. i'll try a full fsck and see where it leads. quite peculiar..
[17:44] <sav> aeon-ltd: because irc clients have bugs. some bugs can be exploited to run arbitrary code. arbitrary code can do harm to your system, specially when this code has special priviledges.
[17:44] <aeon-ltd> timemachine3030: well what happens when you try?
[17:44] <sav> aeon-ltd: thought it was trivial tho. pretty obvious.
[17:44] <aeon-ltd> sav: oh you mean like if someone pm'ed a script
[17:44] <timemachine3030> aeon-ltd, i get redirected to a yahoo 403 error.
[17:44] <sav> aeon-ltd: not only. that's naive. but anyway, never mind :)
[17:44] <Slart> julianoliver: mm.. it seems odd that it would go read-only without there being some trace of why it does it..
[17:44] <aeon-ltd> timemachine3030: check your dns settings in your browser
[17:44] <insider> aeon-ltd: can help?
[17:45] <timemachine3030> in both firefox and chrome
[17:45] <aeon-ltd> insider: what?
[17:45] <aeon-ltd> timemachine3030: yeah
[17:45] <insider> Konqueror file manager 3.5.1 does not save my view mode for each folder individually, i changed /home/user/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc MainViewSettings section but it didn't help
[17:45] <insider> ubuntu 8.10
[17:45] <magicLemon> hmm
[17:46] <IdleOne> !details | insider
[17:46] <sebsebseb> !8.10 | insider
[17:46] <sebsebseb> insider: Rather nice release sadly no longer supported!
[17:47] <insider> i do not want to upgrade)
[17:47] <sebsebseb> insider: well you should, you don't get any security updates for 8.10 anymore
[17:47] <hotfloppy> !eol > hotfloppy
[17:47] <sebsebseb> !eol | hotfloppy insider
[17:47] <Q-Tipped> right guys, i've got a big problem. earlier on i tried to install Ubuntu 9.04 from a live cd, and half way through there was a powercut. when the power came back, i tried to boot into windows and i got a message saying 'no bootable partition detected'. i imagine this is because the installer messed up, so i booted up the live cd and tried to run through the install again, only for it to tell me that it detects no partitions on my compu
[17:47] <IdleOne> insider: at this point you are running an unsupported release. No security updates!
[17:47] <abhi_nav> hotfloppy, this way /msg ubottu !factoid
[17:47] <Q-Tipped> can anyone suggest what i can do to fix it? :/
[17:48] <sebsebseb> insider: you should upgrade to at least 9.04,  you have untill the end of October with that one, before that goes end of life as well
[17:48] <aeon-ltd> Q-Tipped: your gonna need to restore mbr or get grub
[17:48] <insider> I have a problem with Konqueror file manager, I'm running Ubuntu version 8.10 intrepid When I try to change view mode for folder It changes globally but not individually for each folder but I expected it to do so
[17:48] <Q-Tipped> aeon-ltd how can i do that?
[17:48] <julianoliver> Slart: well it can't write any logs, so it's tricky. /var is ro also.
[17:49] <hotfloppy> lol.. thanks abhi_nav n sebsebseb :P
[17:49] <Slart> julianoliver: ah.. didn't think of that
[17:49] <aeon-ltd> Q-Tipped: either try the install again, complete it ensuring install bottloader was done or use supergrubdisk
[17:49] <Slart> julianoliver: perhaps creating a ramdisk for /var will enable you to see the logs?
[17:49] <insider> sebsebseb: i don't mid security
[17:49] <insider> *mind
[17:49] <sebsebseb> insider: loads of bad stuff can happen to a computer, if it is not kept secure enough!
[17:50] <maco2> aeon-ltd: the problem isnt a lack of bootloader. it's a corrupt partition table
[17:50] <sebsebseb> insider: and yes this does include operating systems that aren't Windows as well
[17:50] <IdleOne> insider: Any decent system administrator considers security over usability. I highly recommend you upgrade.
[17:50] <insider> sebsebseb: i'm running only few daemons with open ports and they are up to date
[17:50] <Q-Tipped> aeon-ltd, i'll try running through the install again. i'll give you a shout in a second, but i don't think it'll work because it can't detect any partitions at the mo.
[17:50] <aeon-ltd> maco2: we don't know that for sure, maybe it was just sda1/hda1 was cut during the overwrite of mbr
[17:51] <aeon-ltd> Q-Tipped: well you just proved maco2 right
[17:51] <maco2> aeon-ltd: if the installer is also not seeing a partition table?
[17:51] <aeon-ltd> maco2: read above
[17:51] <sebsebseb> insider: none of the packages in the 8.10 repos are up to date, since the release is no longer supported.  You could maintain the system yourself a bit, but you can't quarrantee that by doing so your properly secure, unless you know properly what you are doing.
[17:51] <Q-Tipped> aeon-ltd, maco2, so, what can i do? :/
[17:52] <antivirtel> hello all, I want to setup the apt-cacher package version 1.6.8: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-cacher ; but in lucid repo nothing about this version (the lastest version doesent worked for me in other machine, but 1.6.8 is still works there); from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-cacher I can download .tar.gz file, how can I install it ?
[17:52] <maco2> Q-Tipped: not much. get a UPS so power cuts dont kill ya next time
[17:52] <iflema> Q-Tipped in a terminal       sudo fdisk /dev/sda        if that goes through press 'p'
[17:52] <maco2> Q-Tipped: you can try to recreate teh partition table with fdisk like iflema  is saying
[17:52] <maco2> Q-Tipped: if it matches what you had before you could be lucky and have it work
[17:52] <insider> sebsebseb: compiling is not in vogue
[17:53] <sebsebseb> insider: anyway 9.04 is quite similar to 8.10,  so why not upgrade to that at least?  Then 9.10 or whatever that is still supported after that?
[17:53] <aeon-ltd> antivirtel: extract it, cd into it, ./configure, make, make install, do those
[17:53] <Q-Tipped> maco2, iflema i'm getting an error: 'unable to open /dev/sda'
[17:53] <maco2> Q-Tipped: and if you dont format, the list of inodes at the start of your ntfs drive will be intact making data recovery possible
[17:53] <insider> sebsebseb: i used 9.10 and do not like it
[17:53] <maco2> Q-Tipped: did you "fdisk" or "sudo fdisk"?
[17:53] <antivirtel> aeon-ltd :O I thook that it isnt a source, thanks, i compile it :)
[17:53] <Q-Tipped> maco2 sudo fdisk
[17:54] <insider> grub 2 is damn piece of sh.t
[17:54] <sebsebseb> insider: I am not that keen on 9.10 myself, but now I prefer it to 10.04 :)   when 9.10 was the latest release,  I switched distro :D
[17:54] <aeon-ltd> antivirtel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[17:54] <sebsebseb> insider: yes I don't like Grub 2 myself, but heres the good news
[17:54] <maco2> insider: obfuscated swearing is still swearing
[17:54] <maco2> insider: and thus not allowed here
[17:54] <sebsebseb> insider: if you upgrade your 8.10 install, you will still have the old version of Grub yourself, unless you install the later yourself
[17:54] <insider> sorry
[17:55] <jakexks> what's wrong with grub2 then?
[17:55] <IdleOne> jakexks: nothing
[17:55] <aeon-ltd> jakexks: the new config file layout
[17:55] <IdleOne> sebsebseb: just hates change :P
[17:55] <Q-Tipped> maco2, 'sudo fdisk /dev/sda'
[17:55] <insider> if i upgrade more than half of my things won/t work
[17:55] <maco2> jakexks: nothing, just most people havent learned the new way to configure stuff
[17:55] <iflema> Q-Tipped in a terminal       sudo fdisk -l
[17:55] <aeon-ltd> jakexks: and the slightly crapper (IMO) automagic system
[17:55] <sebsebseb> jakexks:  many of us prefer the old version, since we know how to deal with it :)  and  also we get what we want from a bootloader with it, we don't need the extra stuff that Grub 2 offers
[17:55] <insider>  jakexks: beta is beta
[17:55] <maco2> insider: grub2 isnt beta...
[17:55] <nmvictor> tomatto_: back
[17:55] <Q-Tipped> iflema what after that?
[17:55] <sebsebseb> insider: that depends on what change it is
[17:55] <sebsebseb> insider: wrong one
[17:56] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: ^
[17:56] <tomatto_> nmvictor: great. do you have it?
[17:56] <iflema> Q-Tipped error?
[17:56] <maco2> Q-Tipped: i dont know why it's doing that
[17:56] <Q-Tipped> iflema nopoe.
[17:56] <renee> hi
[17:56] <IdleOne> hello renee
[17:56] <maco2> insider: what do you mean that half your stuff won't work? did some of your hardware lose support in some version?
[17:56] <Q-Tipped> want me to pastebin my console, maco2/iflema?
[17:56] <sebsebseb> insider: ok what else don't you like about later versions of Ubuntu?
[17:56] <v0lksman> I interrupted my screensaver as it was kicking in but now I'm stuck with a half dimmed screen.  how can I restore the brightness?
[17:56] <oxyrosis> im trying to load firefox and i get this terminal message "Couldn't load XPCOM."
[17:56] <insider> sebsebseb: changes in appearance
[17:57] <nmvictor> tomatto_: have a look at http://paste2.org/get/905563
[17:57] <nmvictor> tomatto_: no coments nor notes in so you are on you on
[17:57] <sebsebseb> insider: such as?  and oh  can make even 10.04 look very much so,  like the old versions such as 8.10
[17:57] <v0lksman> I've tried letting the screen saver kick in on its own and then waking it up again but I'm still dimmed
[17:57] <insider> sebsebseb: new versions are more space dependant
 +antivirtel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware <--- yeah, thx, I compiled yet some other thing :)
[17:57] <aeon-ltd> oxyrosis: tried reinstalling?
[17:57] <svpk> l
[17:57] <iflema> Q-Tipped do you know the partition number of the failed install? pastebin the output
[17:57] <oxyrosis> through synaptic, i did. but i didnt mark for complete removal, i dot wanna lose my bookmarks
[17:57] <maco2> insider: there's a site that has all the old wallpapers, and the theme didnt really change until 10.04, but in 10.04 minimizing necessary screen real estate was a concern in the theming
[17:57] <Q-Tipped> iflema i'm imagining it's 1.
[17:58] <nmvictor> tomatto_: just an  advice, you might wanna comment out the modeline, they are specific to the size of the screen so my 12' inch ibook might not be having the same modeline as you X' inch creen
[17:58] <Q-Tipped> iflema i don't have any other partitions.
[17:58] <tomatto_> nmvictor: do you know what driver is for intel gma950 for write it to xorg.conf?
[17:58] <maco2> tomatto_: "intel"
[17:58] <nmvictor> tomatto_: just use at
[17:58] <maco2> tomatto_: why do you need an xorg.conf at all?
[17:58] <Q-Tipped> iflema http://pastebin.com/8rdyxvVW
[17:58] <insider> sebsebseb: i don't like Compiz and so onб why should i disable all this whistles
[17:58] <nmvictor> tomatto_: but google to be sure
[17:59] <tomatto_> maco2: because ubuntu runs gnome with log-graphics mode
[17:59] <tomatto_> maco2: do you know what do with that?
[17:59] <jagosix> how do you stop a printjob ?
[17:59] <sebsebseb> insider: maybe you should do Debian :)  since Ubuntu is based on Debian, quite similar to Ubuntu, but will come without the features you don't want I guess :)
[17:59] <insider> maco2: no one had experience with konqueror?
[17:59] <abhi_nav> LJRuff, erUSUL hey thanks you guys. I understood date command.
[18:00] <sebsebseb> insider: Konqueror :)
[18:00] <Q-Tipped> iflema ideas?
[18:00] <v0lksman> damn this is annoying
[18:00] <jagosix> my printer keeps spitting out garbage
[18:00] <insider> sebsebseb: ubuntu is more humane)
[18:00] <maco2> nmvictor: konqueror is ... ugh. bad rendering
[18:00] <maco2> nmvictor: er not you
[18:00] <nmvictor> tomatto_: said ati coz its a commin driver for most cards, do lspci } grep VGA , if you see anything like ati technologies then use ati, else {google(driver for ur card}
[18:00] <maco2> insider: im not into konqueror (bad rendering) though i use kubuntu
[18:00] <sebsebseb> maco2: Konqueror is very fast, and displays most webpages ok I guess, well maybe not exactly.
[18:00] <maco2> tomatto_: thats rather odd for intel graphics
[18:00] <Spamicles> when i do /cat/proc/cpuinfo can i tell if the computer is 64 or 32 bit? i cant figure out any other way to do it =]
[18:00] <Dr_Willis> v0lksman:  theres some brightness applets, and my laptops have a brightness keys
[18:00] <iflema> Q-Tipped try      sudo fdisk /dev/hda
[18:01] <nmvictor> tomatto_: lspci | grep VGA
[18:01] <oxyrosis> is there a way to save my bookmarks before i reinstall?
[18:01] <insider> maco2: i use it like file manager and as browser chrome and mozilla
[18:01] <v0lksman> Dr_Willis, this is  a desktop...
[18:01] <maco2> sebsebseb: slashdot not working in konq is why Riddell wanted a webkit browser in kubuntu
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> v0lksman:  the applkets may still work.
[18:01] <IdleOne> Spamicles: what does uname -a return?
[18:01] <Q-Tipped> iflema same error, unable to open /dev/hda
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> v0lksman:  ive never seen the issue happen to anyone else in here. so not sure what else to tell you to try
[18:01] <maco2> insider: ah. have you seen dolphin, the new kde file manager?
[18:01] <kleopatra> hi, i really tried to google it, but didnt find anything useful: How can i set/change env-variables permanently?
[18:01] <v0lksman> Dr_Willis, any idea what they are called?
[18:01] <insider> maco2: not good for me
[18:01] <willz> I installed kde and realized it to be a grave mistake. Now when I wanted to uninstall it - all the packages that came with it isin't removed. I want that. I want it gone. apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop didn't remove them although apt-get install kubuntu-desktop installed em all
[18:01] <maco2> kleopatra: put them in your ~/.profile
[18:01] <sebsebseb> maco2: Riddell that names sounds a ltitle familur or something, whos that?   also instead of Apple forking KHTML why didn't they just improve it?
[18:01] <IdleOne> Spamicles: oh wait, uname -a will show installed system not what your hardware is capable of
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> v0lksman:  Nope. I use my laptop keys.  use the seardh feature of synaptic
[18:01] <pm2> Hi - I have one ATI and one nVidia video card.  I want to setup a dual monitor setup - is this possible, or do I need two cards of the same type?
[18:02] <Spamicles> IdleOne, well the live disk im running is 32 bit but im trying to find out if the processor is 64 bit so i can install 64
[18:02] <Spamicles> IdleOne, yeah =]
[18:02] <insider> maco2: and the same issue on dolphin
[18:02] <v0lksman> Dr_Willis, yeah I assume this is a weird issue not experienced by many...I've never had it happen before and I've done that same thing many times...
[18:02] <Dr_Willis> v0lksman:  perhaps go to the console and back..  might kick it in the head
[18:02] <sebsebseb> insider: Security matters!
[18:02] <v0lksman> Dr_Willis, will try...thx
[18:02] <sebsebseb> insider: so you should upgrade Ubuntu to at least 9.04 as I said before
[18:02] <Dr_Willis> v0lksman:  or go to the screensaver settings and 'test' out a few of them. :)
[18:02] <maco2> sebsebseb: he's the kde developer who said that if canonical didnt have a kde person hacking away yet, he's available, and thus started kubuntu
[18:02] <insider> sebsebseb: i'll wait for 10.10
[18:02] <sebsebseb> maco2: oh
[18:03] <IdleOne> Spamicles: lshw perhaps
[18:03] <insider> people say it would be awsome
[18:03] <willz> how to remove all the sucky programs that came with kubuntu-desktop?
[18:03] <maco2> sebsebseb: "why didnt apple give patches back to us instead of forking?" is a common complaint among kde devs ;-) i think the answer is "because apple is a bad open source citizen"
[18:03] <sebsebseb> insider: by the time 10.10 comes out, something rather malicious might have happended to your 8.10 install,  security updates are there for a reason
[18:03] <Q-Tipped> iflema i have no idea why it's not being detected, the HDD's obviously still working because it pulls an error on booting.
[18:03] <tomatto_> nmvictor:  00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[18:03] <insider> sebsebseb: ha, don't mind
[18:04] <jagosix> AGAIN ... does anyone here know how to cancel print jobs
[18:04] <insider> sebsebseb: i will use firewall
[18:04] <tomatto_> maco2: what do you mean by that?
[18:04] <iflema> Q-Tipped try      sudo fdisk /dev/hdb     or   sudo fdisk /dev/sdb
[18:04] <sebsebseb> insider: Firewall does not protect you against security bugs in the OS
[18:04] <jagosix> i'm wasting paper
[18:04] <jagosix> and toner
[18:04] <Spamicles> IdleOne, width:64 bits of logical:cpu0 and logialcpu:1 ?
[18:04] <Dr_Willis> jagosix:  'lpq' command, of the gnome print manager tool. or the cups web interface. http://localhost:631
[18:04] <Slart> jagosix: there is a printer-queue-thingy that shows up in the task tray when you print
[18:04] <Spamicles> IdleOne, so im guessing 64? =]
[18:04] <aeon-ltd> jagosix: kill cups?
[18:04] <maco2> jagosix: there should be a little printer show up in your tray when printing is happening. can cancel it there
[18:04] <IdleOne> Spamicles: yup
[18:04] <insider> sebsebseb: but it can block any ip or not?
[18:04] <maco2> jagosix: should also be a button on your printer to cancel
[18:04] <sebsebseb> maco2: indeed they basically took  a load of open source, put lip stick on it, and sold to the general public,  :D
[18:05] <maco2> jagosix: and if you're really stuck, you can unplug the printer :P
[18:05] <Slart> jagosix: but if the job is already sent to the printer that won't do much.. you'll have to go over to the printer and cancel the job there.
[18:05] <insider> any range of port i want
[18:05] <nmvictor> tomatto_: well you had better found you driver through google or ask in this channel, the rest of the setting might work though, are you using lucid lynx?
[18:05] <maco2> tomatto_: what do i mean by what?
[18:05] <Spamicles> IdleOne, ive been away from linux for awhile. does wine do any better with emulation, or are there any open source programs like vmware?
[18:05] <Q-Tipped> iflema still not working.
[18:05] <Pici> jagosix: Depends how you printed it.  If you used lp, use the 'cancel' command, it has its own manpage, check it out.
[18:05] <maco2> Spamicles: Wine Is Not an Emulator
[18:05] <tomatto_> nmvictor: yes, lucid lynx
[18:05] <oxyrosis> are there any programs that i can use to backup my bookmarks from firefox without actually opening firefox?
[18:05] <sebsebseb> insider: there is more to computer security, than open ports and such
[18:05] <IdleOne> !vm > Spamicles
[18:05] <tomatto_> maco2: maco2> tomatto_: thats rather odd for intel graphics
[18:05] <Spamicles> oh dear. thank you =]
[18:06] <jagosix> thanks fellas.. I'll give it a try
[18:06] <Slart> jagosix: this of course, is assuming you use regular ubuntu and printed using the regular gui tools.. otherwise it might not work
[18:06] <Dr_Willis> oxyrosis:  the bookmarks are in a single file I recall in teh .mozilla/XXXXXXXX directory. so youi could just backup that file
[18:06] <jagosix> well.. i just logged into the cups web interface
[18:06] <oxyrosis> sweet, thanks
[18:06] <sebsebseb> insider:  and you can have all your ports closed,  and still get a security issue, if your OS doesn't have all the security updates, and is Internet connected.
[18:06] <antivirtel> aeon-ltd there is no ./configure ... what is it? :O
[18:06] <Q-Tipped> iflema what now?
[18:06] <Dr_Willis> lpq has worked for me - with jobs printed from the gui.
[18:06] <iflema> Q-Tipped and you say sudo fdisk -l fails? I cant think... well all thats comming is gparted live-cd
[18:07] <Dr_Willis> lp, lprm, and a few other lpXXX tools :)
[18:07] <insider> sebsebseb: i agree with you but i preffer old stuff and i use two operating systems and do not have some credit card info on my hard drive)
[18:07] <Q-Tipped> iflema sudo fdisk -l doesn't fail, it just doesn't do anything.
[18:07] <aeon-ltd> antivirtel: is a command you should run in a terminal
[18:07] <ManDay> !fonts
[18:07] <maco2> tomatto_: intel has worked out of the box as long as ive used linux (4 years). has had 3D AIGLX to make Compiz go since 6.10. i can recall only one case where it didnt, and that was a bug where intel put a new chipset number under the same model name and a single line had to be added to the kernel to fix it
[18:07] <iflema> Q-Tipped with the sudo it fails?
[18:07] <sebsebseb> insider: well Debian Stable is rather old :)  also as I told you earlier 9.04 is very much so like 8.10 really
[18:07] <Dr_Willis> tomatto_:  i saw today where intel has released some updated intel drivers. :)
[18:07] <Q-Tipped> iflema sudo fdisk -l doesn't do anything, yeah
[18:07] <insider> 8.04 is still updatable?
[18:08] <Q-Tipped> iflema i don't need to do anything like sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda, do i?
[18:08] <sebsebseb> insider: ah yes 8.04  I kind of forgot about that one
[18:08] <sebsebseb> insider: yes 8.04,  that is still supported untill April next year
[18:08] <antivirtel> aeon-ltd... i compiled yet im my life, but: ~/apt-cacher-1.6.8$ ./configure bash: ./configure: No file or directory
[18:08] <abhi_nav> !8.04
[18:08] <maco2> tomatto_: so i find it quite odd for intel graphics to end up in low graphics mode. unless i suppose if you have a second graphics card installed but are trying to use the onboard and its getting confused...
[18:08] <insider> sebsebseb: maybe downgrade? )))
[18:08] <HexLaTor> !lucyd
[18:08] <nmvictor> tomatto_: lucid does not much require an xorg.conf unless its really needed like you case and my ibooks case
[18:08] <jolaren> My sound has stopped working and in the notification area it look like this "--" <- the soundbar that is.. ive tried to reload alsa without success, what can i do
[18:08] <abhi_nav> !lucid > HexLaTor
[18:08] <sebsebseb> insider: yes sounds good to me,  since you want to be using older stuff, and it will still be supported for quite a bit longer yet
[18:08] <HexLaTor> abhi_nav, lol
[18:08] <abhi_nav> :D
[18:08] <antivirtel> aeon-ltd I said it before, I thook this isnt a source code...
[18:09] <jolaren> anyone?
[18:09] <IdleOne> jolaren: sound is muted
[18:09] <nmvictor> how about google,
[18:09] <tomatto_> maco2: gnome runs in low-graphics mode.
[18:09] <jolaren> IdleOne: is it? how can I unmute it? I've tried hotkeys alt f8 without success
[18:09] <aeon-ltd> antivirtel: thook?
[18:09] <nmvictor> tomatto_: lucid does not much require an xorg.conf unless its really needed like you case and my ibooks case, how about google?
[18:09] <sebsebseb> insider: I was thinking upgrade, upgrade, and didn't think that actsually you can downgrade to 8.04, but you will have to clean install to do that.
[18:09] <Q-Tipped> iflema but yeah, either way 'sudo fdisk -l' doesn't do anything and 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda' doesn't do anything. doesn't call back an error, it just doesn't do anything
[18:09] <sebsebseb> !downgrade | insider
[18:09] <maco2> tomatto_: yeah....sounds like a bug to me. that shouldnt happen with intel graphics
[18:09] <IdleOne> jolaren: click on the speaker icon and unmute
[18:09] <h00k> Jordan_U: click on the sound indicator and click the top unmute option
[18:10] <jolaren> IdleOne: Can't be done
[18:10] <h00k> Jordan_U: sorry.
[18:10] <antivirtel> aeon-ltd sry: thought
[18:10] <IdleOne> jolaren: why not?
[18:10] <jolaren> IdleOne: Only listings is About, remove panel etc
[18:10] <insider> oops need to make something like Microsoft
[18:10] <insider> with downgrading vista to xp)
[18:10] <IdleOne> jolaren: left click :)
[18:10] <sebsebseb> insider: I think even there people have to clean install?
[18:10] <IdleOne> !windows
[18:11] <finemann>  Hi, how can i make shortcuts for the (Alt+F2) run dialog box? Like ff for firefox ter for terminal etc
[18:11] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: no he was just saying something, he doesnt' want WIndows support
[18:11] <jolaren> IdleOne: I did, I can click sound preferences etc but there is no option to unmute
[18:11] <IdleOne> Ubuntu does not support downgrading and I believe there are no plans of ever supporting it
[18:11] <nmvictor> i have the same card though 940 replaced 950 in you case
[18:11] <nmvictor> timemachine3030: have the same card though 940 replaced 950 in you case
[18:11] <nmvictor> timemachine3030: sorry
[18:11] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: what IdleOne just put ^
[18:11] <IdleOne> jolaren: in the sound prefs make sure everything is set properly
[18:11] <timemachine3030> no worries.
[18:11] <jolaren> IdleOne: it is
[18:12] <v0lksman> opened my nvidia control panel and dimness restored!
[18:12] <nmvictor>  tomatto_ i have the same card though 940 replaced 950 in you case
[18:12] <Q-Tipped> so yeah, iflema, what'd you suggest?
[18:12] <insider> and when i'm upgrading isn't it like clean install?
[18:12] <jolaren> IdleOne: but I still believe your mute theory
[18:12] <sebsebseb> insider: no
[18:12] <IdleOne> !sound | jolaren follow the links they may have more info
[18:12] <sebsebseb> insider: it just updates what you have installed on the system
[18:12] <aeon-ltd> antivirtel: doesn't the deb just work
[18:12] <insider> i do not have update manager
[18:12] <insider> i have only synaptic with some specific repos
[18:14] <h00k> insider: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[18:14] <insider> 8.10
[18:14] <h00k> insider: and why are you running your IRC client as root?
[18:14] <insider> i'm always using root
[18:14] <h00k> insider: then you're probably not running Ubuntu.
[18:14] <sebsebseb> insider: Gnome 3 is coming,  Gnome 2 is on its way out.  if you do upgrade to 8.04 though,  when that runs out of support, you could upgrade directly to 10.04, and then run Gnome 2 for another year.  Since you want older stuff.
[18:14] <aeon-ltd> insider: just like chuck norris
[18:15] <sebsebseb> insider: also you shoudn't run a root account in Ubuntu
[18:15] <sebsebseb> h00k: hes on 8.10
[18:15] <sebsebseb> h00k: and doesn't care  much about security it seems
[18:15] <h00k> insider: If you are, install upgrade-manager and upgrade to a supported version.
[18:15] <sebsebseb> insider: downgrade not upgrade, above
[18:15] <insider> sebsebseb: i preffer KDE 3.5
[18:15] <sebsebseb> h00k: he wants older stuff, so will probably downgrade to 8.04 with a clean isntall
[18:15] <Pici> sebsebseb: You can't upgrade to 8.04 from 8.10.  And downgrades are not-supproted.
[18:15] <sebsebseb> Pici: indeed
[18:16] <Q-Tipped> right guys, i've got a big problem. earlier on i tried to install Ubuntu 9.04 from a live cd, and half way through there was a powercut. when the power came back, i tried to boot into windows and i got a message saying 'no bootable partition detected'. i imagine this is because the installer messed up, so i booted up the live cd and tried to run through the install again, only for it to fail because 'no root filesystem is defined', and
[18:16] <sebsebseb> Pici: see above :)
[18:16] <Pici> sebsebseb: roger that.
[18:16] <insider> h00k: ok i'll try
[18:16] <Q-Tipped> anyone know what i can do? :/
[18:16] <abhi_nav> but why older stuff?
[18:16] <h00k> insider: also, we don't support running as root.
[18:16] <sebsebseb> insider: ok you like KDE 3.5 well more good news then :)
[18:17] <sebsebseb> insider: 8.04 still has it in the repo :)   and theres also a project that is keeping it alive for later versions of Ubuntu and such
[18:17] <Q-Tipped> anyone?
[18:17] <iflema> Q-Tipped its not looking good.... Id try gparted. either on a current version (livecd) or gparted live
[18:17] <insider> h00k: and if i have 0 rights but my user name is insider that's more different?
[18:18] <Q-Tipped> iflema, can i use g-parted in 9.04?
[18:18] <sebsebseb> insider: anyway this is what you should do then it seems :)  downgrade with a clean install to 8.04 yep, run KDE 3.5,  and don't use root with Ubuntu :)
[18:18] <_fynn> hi.. is there a way to permantly change the default input method to something different from System (IBus (Intelligent Input Bus))?
[18:18] <bazhang> insider, did you need support help with upgrading to 9.04 or beyond? or just wish to chat; 8.10 is not supported any longer.
[18:18] <sebsebseb> !noroot | insider
[18:19] <Q-Tipped> ah, i'm running gparted now, iflema.
[18:19] <bazhang> insider, if it's just chat, then #ubuntu-offtopic is the channel for that
[18:19] <insider> sebsebseb: thanks
[18:19] <Q-Tipped> iflema, it's not detecting anything... >_>
[18:19] <insider> i need help about konqueror
[18:19] <bazhang> insider, that version is not supported
[18:19] <sebsebseb> insider: you can also  install KDE 4 into 8.04, but the version in repo is old one
[18:20] <insider> sebsebseb: no kde 4
[18:20] <sebsebseb> insider: ok well if you want to mix some KDE 3 and KDE 4 apps :D
[18:20] <sebsebseb> bazhang: already been through the 8.10 is no longer supported thing :)
[18:20] <insider> bazhang: konqueror 3.5.1 is not supported here?
[18:20] <Matt1> Do any of you know a good linux alternative to Itunes Genius playlists
[18:20] <sebsebseb> insider: no he meant 8.10
[18:20] <bazhang> sebsebseb, so its offtopic (not supported)
[18:21] <insider> don't matter my 8.10, let's imagine i have 10.10 with kde 3.5
[18:21]  * hotfloppy dont like kDE.. dont know whats the reason :P
 +antivirtel: doesn't the deb just work <-- how ??
[18:21] <sebsebseb> bazhang: actsaully supporting it in here would be yes, but first we told him to upgrade,  then after he told us he wanted older stuff,  the talk changed to going back to 8.04 with a clean install :)
[18:21] <h00k> insider: 10.10 isn't supported in this channel.
[18:21] <Gumby> lmao
[18:21] <insider> h00k: ok 9.10 or 8.04
[18:22] <bazhang> sebsebseb, feel free to take this to PM or #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:22] <insider> i mean konqueror file manager
[18:22] <Gumby> pssssst. try 1-.04
[18:22] <Gumby> 10.04
[18:22] <insider> sorry for 10.10
[18:22] <nomike_> hi
[18:22] <IdleOne> enough of this offtopic/not supported versions. This conversation is distracting from what #ubuntu and it's users are here for.
[18:23] <nomike> How do I find all symplinks pointing to e.g. "/tmp/testfile.txt"?
[18:23] <nomike> s/symplinks/symlinks/
[18:23] <sebsebseb> insider: anyway you know what to do now,  back to 8.04 with a clean install,  and the chat is starting to annoy other people in the channel.
[18:23] <insider> sebsebseb: i understand
[18:24] <Baelgrer> guys, i was just trying to recover data from a broke windows install using Testdisk, and now (when i try to install ubuntu) the gpartitioner doesn't detect anything.
[18:25] <Baelgrer> i'm using the Ubuntu Live CD version 9.04, what can anyone suggest I do?
[18:25] <insider> sebsebseb: thank's for assistance
[18:25] <Baelgrer> i think i must have messed up when i was using testdisk D:
[18:25] <sebsebseb> insider: your welcome
[18:25] <Baelgrer> could anyone help me out?
[18:25] <d7777777> The backspace key is too far...
[18:26] <sebsebseb> Baelgrer: uhmm
[18:26] <sebsebseb> Baelgrer: have you got the data from WIndows?
[18:26] <Baelgrer> sebsebseb no, i can't get into windows.
[18:26] <sebsebseb> Baelgrer: right well don't install Ubuntu not yet
[18:26] <sebsebseb> Baelgrer: you don't want the data on your hard disk to get over written by something
[18:26] <insider> sebsebseb: if i update to 9.04 would it use gnome?
[18:27] <bazhang> insider, yes
[18:27] <Baelgrer> sebsebseb i'm not overly bothered about the data, i just want to get an OS onto my PC now D:
[18:27] <hotfloppy> nomike: try "ls -l /tmp/testfile.txt"
[18:27] <d7777777> I want to map its functionality to another key, but I don't know which...
[18:27] <sebsebseb> insider: yes however there is a project that will give you KDE 3.5 even, unoffical though
[18:27] <Matt1> Does anyone know a good playlist alternative to Itunes Genius playlists?
[18:27] <bazhang> insider, if you are on gnome now. if not then no
[18:27] <insider> bazhang: can skip some versions and upgrade to 10?
[18:27] <Baelgrer> does anyone have any suggestions?
[18:27] <bazhang> insider, fresh install
[18:27] <sebsebseb> insider: no to upgrade to 10.04, you would have to go through 9.04 and 9.10 first
[18:27] <hotfloppy> nomike: on second thought, that might be not the correct answer.. sory..
[18:28] <sebsebseb> insider: unless you are on 8.04, then can directly upgrade, but your not
[18:28] <tarrant> nomike: it is pretty gheto but 'find ./ -type l -print | xargs ls -l {} | grep' will find all symlinks print what they link to and them filter by the file you want.
[18:28] <nomike> hotfloppy: thx anyway, I found another solution for my problem where I don't have to do such weird things as seaching for symlinks pointing to a file.... *g*
[18:29] <hotfloppy> nomike: care to share ?
[18:29] <nomike> tarrant: Well I will give it a try....
[18:29] <nomike> thx
[18:29] <nomike> by
[18:29] <kleopatra> some stupid question : Will there ever be a linux-version of the adobe design-suites ? Or whats the state of affairs ?
[18:29] <MaRk-I> Baelgrer: are you ash____?
[18:29] <nomike> hotfloppy: normally yes. but I'm in a hurry and need to get to an appointment..
[18:29] <FabParma> Does Ubuntu or some application to rebuild/refresh the *applications menu tree links*? At the moment I missing many in my menu, to use them I need to launch via console or manually create link. It is so uncomfortable ;)
[18:29] <hotfloppy> nomike: thats okay.. :)
[18:30] <Baelgrer> Mark-I i may be. however, to avoid laughter i'm going to say no. >__>
[18:30] <nomike> cu
[18:30] <MaRk-I> lol ok
[18:30] <sebsebseb> insider: someone who is kind of famous in the Ubuntu channels, told me about three weeks ago, that he is still doing 8.04 with KDE 3.5.  So if its good enough for him still, it should be good enough for you :)
[18:30] <insider> sebsebseb: :)
[18:30] <Baelgrer> Mark-I  (i still have a sense of humour, even though i think this computer is now bricked, y'see)
[18:30] <IdleOne> FabParma: right click on Applications > Edit menus
[18:31] <MaRk-I> Baelgrer: need a new HD eh
[18:31] <Baelgrer> Mark-I i don't think the HD's broke, because it's still responsive. when I  try to boot up it gives me the error 'no bootable partiton found'.
[18:32] <sebsebseb> Baelgrer: right back to you
[18:32] <yessir_turan> guys, who sees an xml sort of error when accessing google docs using google cl?
[18:32] <MaRk-I> well fireup gparted and see if you can format it
[18:32] <sebsebseb> Baelgrer: so you deleted Windows? and now no partition on the computer? no OS?
[18:32] <tyler_d1> trying to get 2 statics to work on ubuntu 10.04 through /etc/network/interfaces
[18:32] <Baelgrer> but, when i attempt to install Ubuntu i get an error that 'no root filesystem's defined', and I  can't define one because there is nothing to select.
[18:32] <insider> is there some disk clean up tools for ubuntu?
[18:32] <tyler_d1> only one or the other works... not both
[18:32] <Maletor> How do I use compiz to map my horizontal scroll to browser back and forward buttons?
[18:32] <sebsebseb> insider: bleachbit
[18:32] <Baelgrer> Mark-I  so yeah, I  think I''ve really messed up the partitions
[18:33] <MaRk-I> Baelgrer: sudo apt-get install gparted
[18:33] <sebsebseb> insider: and maybe Ubuntu Tweak has something useful,  altough that isn't exactly supported in here
[18:33] <insider> sebsebseb: aha
[18:33] <Baelgrer> s'installed.
[18:33] <sebsebseb> insider: disk cleaning?  what do you want to clean?  its Ubuntu not WIndows
[18:33] <IdleOne> sebsebseb: So how about we stop offering "not exactly supported" apps in here
[18:33] <sebsebseb> insider: there isn't a need to disk defrag and what not
[18:33] <soreau> Maletor: That would be something you setup in the browser, if it supports that feature. Compiz cant just push buttons, however there is xdotool..
[18:34] <MaRk-I> Baelgrer: gparted doesnt detect the hd?
[18:34] <Baelgrer> Mark-I when i run gparted, everything's greyed out, and refreshing devices brings nothing.
[18:34] <MaRk-I> or any partition at all?
[18:34] <insider> some disk cached files
[18:34] <Baelgrer> Mark-I none :/
[18:34] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: Ubuntu Tweak is popular, but  3rd party app I meant, and I haven't seen people give support for it in here  before or not that I remember anyway, hence what I put
[18:34] <MaRk-I> oops
[18:35] <rical> anyone using gtmess?
[18:35] <Baelgrer> mark-i so, what'd you think?
[18:35] <sebsebseb> insider: and yeah its not in the repo
[18:35] <MaRk-I> Baelgrer: but while ago you said you could change the partitions to bootable... odd
[18:36] <Baelgrer> mark-i, yeah, i know. then i used testdisk and everything changed.
[18:36] <Baelgrer> mark-i, so i'm not quite sure what i did, but somehow i've messed it up >_>
[18:36] <sebsebseb> Baelgrer: don't put Ubuntu on yet, get hold of your data first
[18:36] <MaRk-I> Baelgrer: but you were supposed to use photorec
[18:36] <Baelgrer> sebsebseb i can't do anything >_>
[18:36] <sebsebseb> Baelgrer: you can install testdisk from repo onto Live CD of Ubuntu, but that will be an older version, and they have their own CD
[18:37] <MaRk-I> to recover the files
[18:37] <patch-tag> on lucid, how do I run a task at startup? I created a file in /etc/rcS.d, linked it to a script in init.d.... doesn't work.
[18:37] <sebsebseb> Baelgrer: testdisk also seems to only work with partitions that have actasully been deleted,  well last time I tried it and such anwyay
[18:37] <der> hallo
[18:37] <Baelgrer> mark-i followed the guide someone sent, it said about copying files using testdisk.
[18:37] <Lim0n> abhi_nav: the syntax is <first_key>other_key
[18:37] <patch-tag> also what is the big picture here? Is lucid using upstart or init? Where is the best documentation?
[18:38] <Baelgrer> mark-i not going to lie, i have no idea what's happened. all i know is that earlier on, i could change the partitions to bootable, primary, etc., and now after using testdisk they've disappeared.
[18:38] <abhi_nav> Lim0n, ok
[18:38] <Lim0n> e.g. <Alt>F1
[18:38] <Lim0n> :
[18:38] <Lim0n> :D
[18:38] <MaRk-I> Baelgrer: have you rebooted the livecd after using testdisk?
[18:38] <iflema> Baelgrer yeah, lie you say. Its p.robably fried from what Q-Tipped said.
[18:39] <luist> when i start apache i get this warning: * Restarting web server apache2     [Tue Jul 06 17:36:46 2010] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts   is it something to worry aboiut?
[18:39] <Baelgrer> mark-i i have restarted the live cd, yeah.
[18:39] <Baelgrer> iflema fried? awh mannnn.
[18:40] <iflema> Baelgrer you want to tell us what really happened?
[18:40] <patch-tag> testing 123, is this being broadcast?
[18:40] <Pici> patch-tag: 10-4
[18:41] <lucas-arg> whats the major 100% gnu/linux distro?
[18:42] <Baelgrer> mark-i iflema that is what really happened D: i was trying to recover files from a broken windows install, someone suggested testdisk/photorec so i downloaded/installed that. after that, i booted up testdisk and followed the guide as closely as possible (the version had change, and so had its layout) so i had to guess a few things, i got to the same end as the guide, though. after that, it told me to restart for changes to take effect 
[18:42] <bazhang> lucas-arg, gnewsense?
[18:42] <iflema> Baelgrer you are/where Q-Tipped
[18:42] <lucas-arg> bazhang: its a nice distro but it isnt as updated as ubuntu...
[18:43] <Baelgrer> mark-i iflema wouldn't boot and still gave the same error ('no bootable partition detected') and so i tried to install ubuntu 9.04 via the live cd, when GParted couldn't detect anything i thought 'WHOOPS' and rejoined this channel
[18:43] <Baelgrer> iflema not q-tipped, just ash____ from earlier.
[18:43] <bazhang> lucas-arg, they have a support channel on freenode; did you have an Ubuntu support issue?
[18:43] <lucas-arg> bazhang: sorry ill go to offtopic
[18:44] <andyzammy> hi everybody. I'm trying to install a LAMP server on 10.4, but MySQL isn't working. I get this error in webmin: "MySQL is not running on your system - database list could not be  retrieved" any help would be appreciated.
[18:44] <Baelgrer> so yeah, Mike-I/Iflema, any idea what i can do? :/
[18:45] <IdleOne> andyzammy: guessing you need to start mysql from that error.
[18:45] <MaRk-I> Baelgrer: no sorry, stumped on that "no bootable partition detected"
[18:45] <ravma> how to instal google earth
[18:45] <IdleOne> !googleearth
[18:46] <abhi_nav> if i go to ctrl + alt + f1 , to login to admin because i need to install one aps. so how can i switch back again here while that instalation processin is going on there? withoug affecting it?
[18:46] <Baelgrer> Mark-I I'm going to reboot again, just double check it. I imagine all the partiton's have been deleted/messed up somehow, though.
[18:46] <andyzammy> IdleOne: i do - i've tried inputting the following command to no effect: "/etc/init.d/mysql start >/dev/null 2>&1 &"
[18:46] <IdleOne> abhi_nav: ctrl - alt - f7
[18:46] <Baelgrer> ... which would explain gparted being unable to find anything, and the HDD being unable to boot
[18:46] <andyzammy> i'm just not sure what i need to do to manage that though
[18:46] <ravma> its not working
[18:46] <ravma> its in .bin
[18:46] <abhi_nav> IdleOne, and it wll not affect that installation process you sure?
[18:47] <IdleOne> abhi_nav: it shouldn't
[18:47] <abhi_nav> IdleOne, you souldn't menas?
[18:47] <IdleOne> abhi_nav: but why do you need to go to TTY to install an app?
[18:47] <Baelgrer> mark-i, iflema i'll be back in around 10 minutes.
[18:47] <abhi_nav> IdleOne, because other to install ap i need to log off this standard account and go to admin account
[18:47] <Riotta> how to set a static local ip to one of my computers in lan cause everytime I turn on one of the machines they take first ip available and I haven't got advanced dhcp settings on my router?
[18:47] <iflema> Baelgrer under what name with what preoblem?
[18:48] <IdleOne> abhi_nav: ok so this user you are logged on does not have sudo privs?
[18:48] <abhi_nav> IdleOne, no
[18:48] <IdleOne> abhi_nav: no it should not affect the install
[18:48] <azeryu> hello
[18:48] <abhi_nav> IdleOne, ok thanks
[18:48] <ridin> ravma: check out this
[18:48] <Pirate_Hunter> IdleOne, tell them to su to privileged user next time
[18:48] <ridin> ravma: check out this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=233309
[18:49] <andyzammy> can anybody help me troubleshoot mysql, which won't start please?
[18:49] <Pirate_Hunter> !hi | azeryu
[18:49] <Spamicles> just installed ubuntu and going to restart, getting a bunch of [1087.366121] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0 sector 466308 . should i just physcailly cycle the power now?
[18:50] <azeryu> i got ubuntu 10.04 with customize kernel which is not work when i try to compile a package, so someone here told me to download the lastest official kernel linux  2.6 and to compile with KBUILD=... and to compile
[18:50] <azeryu> but still got the error
[18:50] <azeryu> which is http://paste.ubuntu.com/459927/
[18:50] <azeryu> could anyone help plz ?
[18:50] <azeryu> thanks
[18:50] <rogergr> any sauerbraten player here?
[18:51] <h00k> !anyone | rogergr
[18:51] <FabParma> how to re-link/rebuild all applications in "sbin" etc to the Gnome "application menu"?
[18:52] <Mud> h00k : can I ask something :+ is it ok to ask something :+ ?
[18:52]  * Mud runs
[18:52] <abhi_nav> IdleOne, ctrl + alt + f8 works here
[18:52] <azeryu> i got ubuntu 10.04 with customize kernel which is not work when i try to compile a package, so someone here told me to download the lastest official kernel linux  2.6 and to compile with KBUILD=... and to compile
[18:52] <MaRk-I> azeryu: to compile a package you dont need a latest kernel
[18:52] <azeryu> but still got the error
[18:52] <andyzammy1> hi all, can anyone help me troubleshoot a mysql server which won't start please?
[18:52] <IdleOne> abhi_nav: :)
[18:52] <azeryu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/459927/
[18:53] <Mud> andyzammy1 : look in /var/log/mysql
[18:53] <azeryu> not really i got customize one that's why i use a latest one
[18:53] <azeryu> but still not working
[18:53] <andyzammy1> Mud: should i pastebin it?
[18:53] <aeon-ltd> andyzammy1: you mean mysql doesn't start?, check if the daemon loads at boot
[18:53] <Mud> why not andyzammy1 ;)
[18:53] <h00k> azeryu: we don't support custom kernels in #ubuntu
[18:54] <h00k> !kernelcompile > azeryu
[18:54] <azeryu> i don't ask u to support custom kernel
[18:54] <azeryu> i try to compile with official kernle
[18:54] <azeryu> i try to compile with official kernl using
[18:55] <azeryu>  KBUILD=...
[18:55] <Roasted> hmm, installation issue - trying to install gnome-do via software center. I get this error: The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources.
[18:55] <andyzammy1> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/n8iGuMx8
[18:55] <bazhang> azeryu, kernel from where
[18:55] <azeryu>  KBUILD=... see : http://paste.ubuntu.com/459927/
[18:55] <azeryu> from host
[18:55] <bazhang> azeryu, where? got a url?
[18:55] <andyzammy1> aeon-ltd: i'm using webmin to view and it informs me that it's not running. issuing the command to start it up doesn't work
[18:55] <MaRk-I> azeryu: read the message ubottu sent you
[18:55] <nyu> so, i recently swapped out mobos and now my microphone doesnt work.  do i need to update sound drivers or something?
[18:56] <h00k> azeryu: that error says you need whatever source for the kernel you're using.
[18:56] <Mud> row 25 is odd andyzammy1
[18:56] <Roasted> do I have to add the medibuntu repo?
[18:56] <Mud> is it a fresh install andyzammy1?
[18:56] <Slart> nyu: on board sound card? or an internal/external sound card.. like a soundblaster?
[18:56] <bazhang> Roasted, to accomplish what
[18:56] <nyu> on board
[18:56] <LucidGuy> Samba simple question.  I have a directory/share defined in smb.conf and that directory has multiple subfolders within subfolders.  The root/parent directory has very specific ACL settings and when a user creates a folder via a windows machine the ACL settings do not get inherited?  I have inherit acls = yes set within smb.conf.  Any suggestions?
[18:56] <Roasted> hmm, installation issue - trying to install gnome-do via software center. I get this error: The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources.
[18:56] <Roasted> bazhang, ^
[18:56] <rogergr> how can i save only  the names of .avi when i delete the them? I want to delete only the content. May be is a stupid question, but i want to have a history of watched movies :)
[18:57] <Roasted> bazhang, I got the same error when trying to install ffmpeg too.
[18:57] <aeon-ltd> andyzammy1: so 'sudo /etc/rc.d/mysql start' does nothing?, not even a error?
[18:57] <andyzammy1> Mud: no, this thing's been upgraded since 8.10
[18:57] <th0r> azeryu: the error message says you don;t have the kernel sources installed, so install the kernel sources
[18:57] <valentinex> is it safe to remove these compiz packages? I want more speed for my ubuntu I am greedy http://pastebin.org/384598
[18:57] <azeryu> whatever source ? h00k
[18:57] <aeon-ltd> Roasted: you need the gpg keys
[18:57] <bazhang> Roasted, its in universe repo
[18:57] <Slart> nyu: then it might not be supported at the moment.. you could try searching the ubuntu forums for your motherboard model to see if anyone else had the same problem
[18:57] <h00k> azeryu: the error message tells you what ie needs.
[18:57] <h00k> *it
[18:58] <Roasted> aeon-ltd, I didnt need the gpg keys when I installed ffmpeg earlier on my desktop at home, unless it did it automatically.
[18:58] <nyu> slart: sound works great, just no mic
[18:58] <soreau> valentinex: You dont need to remove compiz, just disable effects
[18:58] <clowner> Can someone please recommend me a good program to work with PHP files? I tried Bluefish editor but I find it very limiting.
[18:58] <Roasted> bazhang, pardon?
[18:58] <Roasted> bazhang, should I install medibuntu?
[18:58] <andyzammy1> aeon-ltd: i get a command not found. but the command that webmin tells me to use is: "/etc/init.d/mysql start >/dev/null 2>&1 &"
[18:58] <aeon-ltd> Roasted: different ver of ubuntu?
[18:58] <valentinex> soreau: i disabled still i am not satisfy and still some effects are there
[18:58] <bazhang> Roasted, for gnome-do? no need for that
[18:58] <tomasz> hello
[18:58] <Roasted> aeon-ltd, nope. 10.04 on both.
[18:58] <Roasted> bazhang, hmm, then why is this gizmob ombing out
[18:58] <tomasz> somebody install dri2proto ?
[18:58] <aeon-ltd> andyzammy1: and that command does nothing as well?
[18:58] <azeryu> are  you used to use KBUILD= ... ? h00k
[18:58] <Slart> nyu: it's quite possible that playing sound works and that recording sound doesn't
[18:58] <Roasted> aeon-ltd, both are 64 bit as well. pretty sure I used the same iso on the same usb drive.
[18:58] <jbroome> clowner: nano
[18:59] <soreau> valentinex: If its already disabled, then compiz isnt running and thus isnt producing any effects you see
[18:59] <Mud> andyzammy1: why its saying : InnoDB: The first specified data file ./ibdata1 did not exist: : :? really really odd :P
[18:59] <tomasz> http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/individual/proto/dri2proto-2.3.tar.gz
[18:59] <Thorn_> Hello. Wubi does not show "Install Inside Windows" button at all on any of my machines (Tested Win7 and XP)
[18:59] <tomasz> how install this ??
[18:59] <soreau> valentinex: So, removing compiz wont do anything to speed anything up
[18:59] <clowner> I'm looking for an IDE
[18:59] <h00k> azeryu: It tells you exactly what you need, You do not appear to have the sources for the 2.6.32-gandi-2839 kernel installed.
[18:59] <Slart> nyu: there are some settings you can try modifying.. but searching the forums might be a good first step
[18:59] <abhi_nav> clowner, which ide?
[18:59] <bihari> i have problem
[18:59] <andyzammy1> aeon-ltd: it says "Done" but rechecking webmin it says its still not running :S
[19:00] <bihari> on ubuntu i canot do cam to cam chat  on yahoo
[19:00] <bihari> can any one help
[19:00] <Mud> andyzammy1: look in the logfiles again
[19:00] <andresj> so i'm listening/watching a stream (univision futbol) on mplayer. it randomly changes volume. is there a way to normalize this in real time?
[19:00] <clowner> abhi_nav: I'm looking for an IDE to work with PHP systems. I tried Bluefish but I find it limiting
[19:00] <tomasz> hallo !
[19:00] <abhi_nav> clowner, search in ubuntu software cneter
[19:00] <tomasz> i have easy problem
[19:00] <andyzammy1> Mud: i'm not sure why that is.. i'm a noob with this.. i was reading a guide a friend wrote, but its outdated (for 8.04)
[19:00] <bihari> can any one help me
[19:00] <clowner> I did, I was just wondering if anyone had any good suggestions
[19:00] <Kyle__> How does one go about installing the 32-bit version of a program using apt-get?
[19:00] <shadyabhi> bihari: state the problem
[19:01] <aeon-ltd> brb
[19:01] <abhi_nav> 'easy' "problem'?
[19:01] <abhi_nav> lol
[19:01] <Kyle__> Kyle__: Assuming you're on a 64bit install.
[19:01] <chalcedony> i'm running ubuntu 9.04 on a pc. last night it surprised me by opening a bunch of 'screenprint' windows, which i hadn't told it to do. the computer got slower and slower, i tried to open a terminal and stop proceses, but it didn't work, the clock eventually stopped. i shut it off and restarted. then it didn't have any network connection. i've added 2 network cards.. still no connection, and spent time looking at eth0 eth1 eth2 eth3. today: sudo
[19:01] <chalcedony> /etc/init.d/networking start - got it to see the ip for google... but when i started firefox it didn't see it, not even the ip i had pinged. and ping no longer worked.
[19:01] <chalcedony> I'm not sure what to do now?
[19:01] <tomasz> how install and compile something
[19:01] <FloodBot4> chalcedony: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:01] <tomasz> http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/individual/proto/dri2proto-2.3.tar.gz
[19:01] <bihari> well i want some clint that can work properly as i canot do cam to cam chat on yahoo
[19:01] <h00k> !compile | tomasz
[19:01] <h00k> !packages > tomasz
[19:02] <Roasted> bazhang, fixed it.
[19:02] <Roasted> bazhang, gotta love serach function of ubuntu forums. :P
[19:02] <Roasted> bazhang, System - Admin - Software Sources - Unchecked "software restricted by copyright or legal issues". reloaded, ran software center again, worked fine.
[19:02] <bazhang> Roasted, care to tell how?
[19:02] <bihari> ?
[19:02] <bihari> plz reply?
[19:02] <tomasz> ubottu how easy instal from tar.gz ?
[19:02] <jagosix> i've installed 10.04 LTS for ppc works great , but... the youtube video playback via web browser is a pain
[19:02] <bazhang> Roasted, nicely done :)
[19:02] <Roasted> bazhang, can't say I ever heard of THAT function before. But if yo ucheck out software sources in 10.04, on the main tab it's an option there.
[19:02] <andyzammy1> Mud: new pastebin: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/eQ8hR5wv
[19:02] <Roasted> bazhang, no idea how I unchecked it in my desktop and not laptop. But, whatever. :P
[19:03] <bihari> can any one help me
[19:03] <Mud> andyzammy1: what have you done? since 8.10 ? before you got this error
[19:03] <IdleOne> bihari: patience
[19:03] <arvind_khadri> bihari, gyachi
[19:03] <bihari> gyachi is old
[19:03] <h00k> tomasz: Please read the factoids from Ubuntu, it will tell you what you need to know
[19:03] <Roasted> bazhang, that begs the obvious question - how does gnome-do ffall under the restricted copywritten category?
[19:03] <bihari> it does not support it
[19:03] <bihari> i have tryed
[19:03] <arvind_khadri> bihari, it does support cam
[19:03] <bazhang> !enter | bihari
[19:04] <abhi_nav> bihari, whats issue?
[19:04] <arvind_khadri> bihari, you can also try kopete, which also supports cam.
[19:04] <bihari> kopete support cam?
[19:04] <HydroUK> hi
[19:05] <HydroUK> having real issues with networking (disable ip46 to no avail)
[19:05] <HydroUK> everything is slow cant fetch a file from apache @ over 1.4MBps
[19:05] <MaRk-I> bihari: to get the latest gyachi you have to compile from source and install about 60 dependencies if you're familiar with that I can paste you the instructions
[19:05] <borwar> Will it work to burn the ISO onto a DVD instead of a CD?
[19:06] <davidscale> emesene and amsn support webcam
[19:06] <bazhang> borwar, sure
[19:06] <andyzammy1> Mud: I'm not really sure. Nothing really comes to mind. what are you looking for specifically?
[19:06] <Kyle__> On a 64bit install, how do you install the 32bit version of a program?
[19:06] <IdleOne> borwar: sure it wastes a dvd but yes you can
[19:06] <Ash> mark-i, i disconnected, did you get my message?
[19:06] <bihari> well i am not familiar with that but i will try
[19:06] <bazhang> borwar, or usb flash stick if your computer supports boot from usb
[19:06] <MaRk-I> Ash: only that you were goint to reboot the live cd
[19:06] <HydroUK> <-- running lucid lynx
[19:06] <bihari> MaRK-i give me
[19:06] <Belgarath> hi anybody has the problem with mysql-server on ubuntu lucid server?
[19:07] <Belgarath> I cannot force it to accept connections over tcp/ip
[19:07] <MaRk-I> bihari: you have compiled before?
[19:07] <borwar> bazhang: It says on ubunto.com that the stick must have at least 2 gb. I only got 1gb usb stick.
[19:07] <Ash> mark-i, ah, right. well, there's a different message now, it says 'DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISC'. Don't know if that changes anything, though.
[19:07] <bihari> nops
[19:07] <bihari> but i will try
[19:07] <HydroUK> any body? i see my question disappearing :( ;)
[19:08] <Kyle__> borwar: You may be able to try one of the alternate images, if you've got a really small flash drive like that.
[19:08] <MaRk-I> Ash:  hhmm no idea think the hd is borked
[19:08] <Ash> mark-i yeah, i guessed it probably would be. oh well :/
[19:08] <IdleOne> HydroUK: repost your question ( 10 minutes or so) in one post so it is easier to follow
[19:08] <borwar> Kyle__: Where can I find alternate images?
[19:08] <HydroUK> eek ok just noticed that in topic tbh sorry
[19:09] <IdleOne> HydroUK: no worries
[19:09] <Kyle__> borwar: On the ubuntu site.  They have the standard images, and the alternate images.
[19:09] <bihari> what hapen
[19:09] <bihari> are you going to give me or not
[19:09] <borwar> Kyle__: Like netbook edition?
[19:09] <Kyle__> borwar: Yea, netbook, but also low memory, text only, LVM.  There are _lots_ of alternate images.
[19:10] <Thorn_> Hello. Wubi does not show "Install Inside Windows" button at all on any of my machines (Tested Win7 and XP). Googled around to no avail. The middle button and its related description simply does not appear in the application.
[19:10] <bihari> mark-i give me
[19:11] <Njh> does anyone know how to fix "gpg-agent is not available in this session"?
[19:11] <rhl> Hi, what is the name of the standard chat software that ships with ubuntu?
[19:11] <nyu> slart: im seeing other people having issues with the onboard sound on this board, must not be supported.  guess ill get a pci card
[19:11] <h00k> !info Empathy | rhl
[19:11] <bihari> are koi to help karoo
[19:11] <h00k> !info empathy | rhl
[19:11] <rhl> thanks guys :)
[19:12] <bazhang> rhl, you may wish to install irssi or xchat
[19:12] <Slart> nyu: sometimes that's the easiest way out.. if you're just looking for something simple most of the cheap usb audio cards work out of the box
[19:12] <rhl> has xchat
[19:12] <rhl> want to start empathy in fluxbox
[19:12] <Kyle__> borwar: Ya know what, I'm reading those instructions, and I say just try it with the image you have, and your 1-gig stick.  The worst that can happen is you need to reformat the stick!
[19:12] <nyu> eh, i got a box full of pci cards somewhere
[19:13] <nyu> i just hate shutting down, heh
[19:13] <Slart> nyu: ok, nevermind the usb thing then.. go with what you've got
[19:13] <Kyle__> So, anyone know how to install 32bit software on the 64bit 'buntu?
[19:13] <sanguisdex> is there a good program for diffing remote files localy?
[19:13] <sanguisdex> with like a commader interface
[19:14] <Kyle__> sanguisdex: Umm, you mean like diff?
[19:14] <Pirate_Hunter> sanguisdex, you mean scp, rsync etc
[19:14] <tarvid> Neither "Display" nor "Screen resolution" appears in my System - Preferences Menu
[19:14] <tarvid> Lucid
[19:14] <sanguisdex> I should have said merging
[19:14] <Slart> tarvid: I think it's called "Monitors" in lucid
[19:14] <sanguisdex> I will talk to jammie to see what I can do
[19:15] <Kyle__> sanguisdex: If you have the kde compontents installed, maybe Kompare.  Look at the screenshots on wikipedia.  It's pretty damn slick. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kompare
[19:15] <tarvid> Slart, Thanks that works
[19:15] <sanguisdex> Kyle__: thanks trying to avoid laong k libs on my machine
[19:16] <janisozaur> in svn I can "svn log -r BASE:HEAD", it shows the commit logs between what I have locally and what server has. how can I achieve the same in bzr?
[19:16] <Kyle__> sanguisdex: I know, but if you really need a good diff/merge tool, kompare is awesome.  Generally I use the one built into netbeans, but it's not as nice.
[19:17] <dm_> Anyone else have an issue with the volume not correctly being adjusted (via keyboard or the sound applet)
[19:18] <heathen> Just booted up my first 'buntu box, an Ion Breeze, from Zotac. Anybody familiar with this thing?
[19:18] <trojan_spike> yea
[19:18] <Kyle__> heathen: Is that the distro or the hardware?  Either way, never heard of it.
[19:19] <heathen> Zotac makes the Ion Breeze which comes prepped w/ubuntu 10.04
[19:19] <LorgonJortle> Hello
[19:19] <LJRuff> !hi | LorgonJortle
[19:19] <Kyle__> heathen: Ah.  Very nice.
[19:20] <LJRuff> gmail makes me laugh. My e-mail is full of Linux newsletters, subscriptions, mailing lists - yet the ads are always Microsoft ads.
[19:20] <LorgonJortle> Should I be using x64 Ubuntu if my CPU supports it?
[19:20] <HydroUK> hi, having real issues with networking (disabled ipv6 to no avail), everything is slow, can't fetch a file from apache/ssh/ftp @ over 1.4MBps, this is with Lucid Lynx
[19:20] <LJRuff> LorgonJortle, no
[19:20] <bihari> can any one help me plz
[19:20] <Slart> LorgonJortle: sure, give it a try
[19:20] <LJRuff> !ask | bihari
[19:20] <trojan_spike> bihari :: what the problem??
[19:20] <chalcedony>  http://www.pastebin.org/384609 i'm on this laptop with vista
[19:20] <LJRuff> LorgonJortle, do you have a 64 bit processor?
[19:20] <bihari> man but i dont get the answer of my question
[19:20] <LorgonJortle> LJRuff: Why shouldn't I be? If I have 6GB of RAM, am I going to be using all of it?
[19:20] <bihari> i need new gaychi
[19:20] <LorgonJortle> LJRuff: Yeah, I do.
[19:21] <bihari> so that i can compile to work for yahoo clints
[19:21] <trojan_spike> ?? whats that
[19:21] <Slart> LorgonJortle: the only thing that is problematic these days is flash.. since adobe temporarily removed the 64bit flash plugin (for security reasons), you can still run the 32bit plugin with ndiswrapper though
[19:21] <LorgonJortle> But last time I installed x64 Ubuntu (like 8.04) I had several problems.
[19:21] <LJRuff> LorgonJortle, *if* you have a 64 bit processor then sure - go for it. If you have an x_86 arch and tons of ram you're just lookin' to spend then no.
[19:21] <Kyle__> LorgonJortle: That's a big Q ya know.  Do you have more than 4GB of ram?  Do you know if you need anything that's 32bit only?
[19:21] <trojan_spike> no idea
 plz give me
[19:21] <HydroUK> no ideas?
[19:21] <bihari> i will compile it
[19:22] <bean> bihari, you're not making any sense.
[19:22] <chalcedony> is there someplace or someone to talk to for help with my network connection?  http://www.pastebin.org/384609
[19:22] <LJRuff> LorgonJortle, I'd *really* err on the side of x_86 and not the 64 bit unless you're just dead set on it.
[19:22] <LorgonJortle> I don't think there's anything I need that's only 32bits.
[19:22] <LorgonJortle> I do have a x64 processor, LJRuff. haha
[19:22] <Kyle__> Longhorn: _most_ 32bit stuff works fine on the 64bit install, but not all of it.  Then again, some virtualization systems work better if the host is 64bit.  If this is a desktop, and you're not sure, I'd go for 32bit.
[19:22] <LorgonJortle> Intel Core 2 Quad
[19:22] <Kyle__> LorgonJortle: oops, not Longhorn...
[19:23] <chalcedony> LorgonJortle, use the 64 bit - if you hate it change
[19:23] <LJRuff> LorgonJortle, kyle_ and I have both told you our thoughts. = / It's your call.
[19:23] <Longhorn> :P
[19:23] <LJRuff> !sorry | Longhorn
[19:23] <bihari> whats is you sens
[19:24] <LorgonJortle> One reason I consider x64 is that I have a x64 Win7 guest (VMWare), and I'd like to be able to give it more than 2GB of RAM.
[19:24] <Kyle__> LorgonJortle: Remember, if you have more than 4GB, you can still use it in a 32bit box, it just won't be as efficient.  With 4 cores though, you probably won't notice, unless you're really _really_ pushing the box.
[19:24]  * HydroUK is not a happy bunny, someone must have an idea as to what is involved hehe
[19:24]  * HydroUK begs on his knees :)
[19:24] <Slart> HydroUK: tried using some other dns services? google dns perhaps?
[19:24] <pahalial> Is anyone particularly experienced with truecrypt full-drive encryption? I'm looking to get a USB boot disk (with bootloader and /boot partition) to launch a wubi-style encrypted root disk.
[19:25] <HydroUK> Slart, dns isnt the issue here
[19:25] <HydroUK> ssh doesnt use dns
[19:25] <HydroUK> im using ip's only
[19:25] <MaRk-I> bihari: I'm goint to paste you how to do it, you have to download the file yourself and compile it, I'm not goint to help you with that ok?
[19:25] <Slart> HydroUK: or.. wait.. regular transfers aren't slow? once they've started?
[19:25] <Kyle__> LorgonJortle: Check the virtualbox documentation.  You _may_ be able to run a 64bit guest with more than 2gb of ram on a 32bit host.  I'm not sure.
[19:25] <HydroUK> yup
[19:25] <Slart> HydroUK: oh.. sorry. didn't read all the info..
[19:25] <HydroUK> if they start around 3MB they quickly level out at 1.4MB
[19:25] <LorgonJortle> Kyle__: I can, but it doesn't end well.
[19:25]  * abhi_nav gives extra luck for HydroUK 
[19:26] <HydroUK> naa its cool glad to have an answer, i know how things are here, loads of questions hehehe
[19:26] <wildc4rd> evenin' all
[19:26] <LJRuff> !hi | wildc4rd
[19:26] <Slart> HydroUK: what is this.. a internet connection ? or internal LAN?
[19:26] <Kyle__> LorgonJortle: OK, then it's kindof decided for you.
[19:26] <LorgonJortle> Howdy, wildc4rd.
[19:26] <zemeus> Hello everyone
[19:26] <HydroUK> 100Mbps full duplex, internet 20Mbps/2Mbps
[19:26] <LJRuff> !hi | zemeus
[19:27] <zemeus> Does anyone know of any good terminal tutorials?
[19:27] <Slart> HydroUK: and regular web surfing is slow.. and ssh is slow? just to connect or it's slow all the time?
[19:27] <abhi_nav> !cli
[19:27] <zemeus> I am new to linux
[19:27] <abhi_nav> zemeus, ^^
[19:27] <HydroUK> ssh as console is fine but any file transfer is slow
[19:27] <trojan_spike> youtube for terminal tutorials
[19:27] <HydroUK> dns response is fast
[19:27] <abhi_nav> !manual > zemeus
[19:27] <zemeus> ok thank you guys
[19:28] <CbIP> Hi all! Can someone help? I've installed ComixCursors 0.7, enabled them into appearance menu, but they work only in some windows (e.g. help) and don't work at my desctop, in Opera, etc. How to fix it?
[19:28] <LorgonJortle> Why does it say on the Ubuntu diwnload page that x64 isn't recommended for daily use?
[19:28] <LJRuff> zemeus, http://linuxcommand.org/
[19:28] <zemeus> i know the basics, like cd man ls less etc. just new to linux.
[19:28] <Slart> LorgonJortle: noone knows.. noone here, at least.. it's reported in the bug database
[19:28] <LJRuff> zemeus, read *all* of that and practice every command as it illustrates and you'll be a pro in no time.
[19:29] <MaRk-I> bihari: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/bNuSNYTS   <<< open an empti text file and copy the instructions
[19:29] <MaRk-I> empty**
[19:29] <zemeus> I def like the community much better, there is no community in windows
[19:29] <LJRuff> zemeus, #windows? They're pretty active.
[19:30] <h00k> zemeus: you're also welcome to #ubuntu-beginners
[19:30] <HydroUK> Slart, any other ideas matey?
[19:30] <HydroUK> im baffled, windows on the same network lead/socket is fine
[19:30] <LJRuff> If they seem quite it's because there's only one fix to correct any issues you might be having in Windows -> format c. Any issue(s) you might be experiencing will stop in a few minutes.
[19:32] <Slart> HydroUK: not really.. only reason I can think of is that auto-negotiation problems or stuff like that.. I'm kind of googling around. . but I haven't found anything useful so far
[19:32] <CbIP> Can someone help? I've installed ComixCursors 0.7, enabled them into appearance menu, but they work only in some windows (e.g. help window) and don't work at my desctop, Opera, etc. How to fix it?
[19:32] <MaRk-I> bihari: do you have gyachi installed?
[19:33] <HydroUK> Slart, yea my first thought, ethtool reports full duplex 100 link
[19:34] <HydroUK> i think im gonna back pedal onto karmic and see if the issue is there, its a recent install so no real loss
[19:34] <HydroUK> although i like the new colour scheme ;)
[19:34] <HydroUK> purple rocks!
[19:34] <timemachine3030> how can I check my global DNS configurations on Ubuntu 10.04?
[19:35] <wrinkliez> anyone know of a good program to compile a linux executable for ruby scripts?
[19:35] <HydroUK> Slart, cheers for the ideas mate, hopefully all will be well ;)
[19:36] <Slart> HydroUK: hmm.. then I'm out of ideas.. sorry
[19:36] <Slart> HydroUK: you're welcome
[19:36] <sdfsdf> hello everyone
[19:36] <sdfsdf> i need help with my mic
[19:37] <sdfsdf> i have alsa, volume control synaptics
[19:37] <sdfsdf> mic works but cant record
[19:37] <sdfsdf> lspci ftl
[19:37] <sdfsdf> someone please help
[19:37] <sdfsdf> 3 months now
[19:37] <thune3> timemachine3030: /etc/resolv.conf holds current DNS configuration
[19:37] <sdfsdf> i cant rap great
[19:37] <sdfsdf> but pleas esome
[19:37] <FloodBot4> sdfsdf: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:37] <HydroUK> sdfsdf, might wanna keep that to one line LOL
[19:37] <h00k> !enter | sdfsdf
[19:37] <bazhang> sdfsdf, dont use the enter key after two words
[19:38] <sdfsdf> ...
[19:38] <sdfsdf> i type fast
[19:38] <sdfsdf> more than two words.
[19:38] <bazhang> sdfsdf, you'll get zero support that way
[19:38]  * HydroUK chuckles to himself
[19:38] <sdfsdf> someone say they will help
[19:38] <rical> anyone using or has used gtmess?
[19:38] <sdfsdf> any i might have more than zero
[19:38] <sdfsdf> ubuntu 9.10 all sound drivers mic works on xp
[19:38] <bazhang> sdfsdf, please keep it all on ONE line
[19:38] <sdfsdf> ubuntu is a shame
[19:38] <timemachine3030> thune3, thanks.
[19:39] <zemeus> i like it
[19:39] <sdfsdf> can someone help and since i have to type a paragraph before anyone answers i would reatly appreicete teh knowledge of the cool people here
[19:39] <sdfsdf> please help me
[19:39] <sdfsdf> i can make fps or thirdperson games
[19:40] <sdfsdf> i really need my mic working
[19:40] <drew212> sdfsdf: thats you're opinion and you're entitled to it, but ubuntu is an ideology
[19:40] <sdfsdf> followed every tutorial sorry about the enter button
[19:40] <sdfsdf> i want it
[19:40] <sdfsdf> it pwns
[19:40] <sdfsdf> im not really a chattin dude, can someone help me
[19:40] <sdfsdf> ive tried everything
[19:41] <sdfsdf> im not kidding
[19:41] <zemeus> what kind of mic do you have?
[19:41] <sdfsdf> i mean i have grub menu and have to choose the third one for my sound to even work, mic works but no capture
[19:41] <sdfsdf> and its turned all the way up
[19:41] <Pici> !enter
[19:41] <sdfsdf> a mic that works on xp
[19:41] <Pici> !patience
[19:42] <zemeus> That is helpful
[19:42] <sdfsdf> i havent asked a question
[19:42] <sdfsdf> i mean i like inklink ftw
[19:42] <zemeus> Then why don't you use xp?
[19:42] <sdfsdf> i just want some help from a ubuntu forum like thing
[19:42] <sdfsdf> and none of them work, so for short how teh mic work
[19:43] <zemeus> google usually helps me if I have a problem/// I would suggest that
[19:43] <Slasher`> !google
[19:43] <sdfsdf> i got all alsa volume control soundrecorder pulse drivers opengl x5 and other junk
[19:43] <bazhang> !sound | sdfsdf
[19:43] <sdfsdf> audicity every plugin
[19:43] <sdfsdf> lspci ftl
[19:43] <zemeus> Ok, sry
[19:43] <sdfsdf> alsamixer ftl
[19:43] <Pici> sdfsdf: Stop pressing enter between every 3 words.
[19:43] <Slasher`> it's ok lol
[19:43] <zemeus> what is a fu?
[19:44] <LJRuff> Please stop feeding the troll.
[19:44] <sdfsdf> pills ar nad
[19:44] <sdfsdf> i cant even read
[19:44] <timemachine3030> thune3, i found the problem .. what do I need to restart after editing resolv.conf?
[19:44] <sdfsdf> just get me in a chattrom with someone who knows something about something'
[19:44] <sdfsdf> gotta type that b4 they get pissed
[19:44] <LJRuff> !troll | sdfsdf
[19:44] <sdfsdf> make sure that all the elephants and rhinos will see the sentence from 3 miles away guys
[19:45] <sdfsdf> they are pressuresmoothnesslike here
[19:45] <Gumby> sdfsdf: I know something about something.  I know lots about bikes.  Your quest for someone that knows something about something is over!!
[19:45] <janisozaur> in svn I can "svn log -r BASE:HEAD", it shows the commit logs between what I have locally and what server has. how can I achieve the same in bzr?
[19:45] <thune3> timemachine3030: those changes take effect immediately, but resolv.conf gets overwritten by networkmanager and dhclient, so your changes are temporary.
[19:45] <zemeus> Nevermind I just well, used my fu
[19:46] <timemachine3030> copy that, yeah the problem is fixed ... so networkmanager you say..
[19:46] <h00k> sdfsdf: Please read the !guidelines as I will link to you. You've been told about !enter more than twice now.
[19:46] <h00k> !guidelines > sdfsdf
[19:46] <Pici> janisozaur: Usually I use bzr diff, see bzr help diff   for lots of syntax
[19:46] <thune3> timemachine3030: are you trying to set fixed dns servers?
[19:46] <LJRuff> Thank you h00k
[19:47] <janisozaur> Pici: diff shows, well, diffs. I want commit logs and there's "log" for that, but I can't make it aware of server changes _before_ updating
[19:47] <timemachine3030> thune3, no. there were two nameservers in resolv.conf ... and one of them was bogus. I removed it and now my dns is working great.
[19:48] <h00k> sdfsdf: As said in !patience, if nobody knows, nobody will answer you.  Have a bit of patience as we're all volunteers. Ask your question again in 5-10 minutes, maybe there'll be a new set of eyes.
[19:48] <jm_> hello anyone know how to debug ndiswrapper invalid driver errors (i've done all the google stuff about files in the right directory, spaces in names etc.)
[19:48] <sdfsdf> spam
[19:48] <abhi_nav> !pm | bihari
[19:48] <chalcedony>  please -  http://www.pastebin.org/384609 can you help with my networking problem?
[19:48] <sdfsdf> bump
[19:48] <sdfsdf> okay
[19:48] <sdfsdf> sorry
[19:48] <sdfsdf> how many people have a mic here
[19:48] <sdfsdf> and run 9.10
[19:48] <FloodBot4> sdfsdf: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:49] <abhi_nav> bihari, whats the matter?
[19:49] <bihari> jai bharat
[19:49] <bihari> muje apkaa message acha laga mera bharat mahan
[19:49] <chalcedony> sdfsdf, i have 9.04 and im not a good source - but i have a mic
[19:49] <sdfsdf> if i upgrade 10.04 will it fix
[19:49] <Phun5tar> I have a startup question
[19:49] <abhi_nav> bihari, thanks.
[19:49] <sdfsdf> whtats it phn
[19:49] <Pici> janisozaur: This question might be better fielded in #bzr then.
[19:49] <bihari> can i add you
[19:49] <bihari> i am newbi
[19:49] <Gumby> sdfsdf: you need to provide a bit of info, perhaps what sound card or mic you are using
[19:50] <bihari> and i need some people who can guide me
[19:50] <sdfsdf> shitty mic but it works on xp
[19:50] <Phun5tar> I can't recall what I did to cause my Firefox and trash can to open automatically each time I start my distro
[19:50] <Pici> sdfsdf: Please mind your language here.
[19:50] <Gumby> never heard of that brand before
[19:50] <Gumby> lol
[19:51] <Phun5tar> how do I change my startup script?
[19:51] <damienmannn> okay
[19:51] <damienmannn> hello
[19:52] <damienmannn> how is everyone
[19:52] <Thorn_> Hello. Wubi does not show "Install Inside Windows" button at all on any of my machines (Tested Win7 and XP). Googled around to no avail. The middle button and its related description simply does not appear in the application.
[19:52] <Thorn_> http://ader008.titandsl.co.uk/thorn/wubinowubi.jpg   vs     http://www.linoob.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/wubi-1.PNG
[19:52] <damienmannn> am i spamming?
[19:52] <damienmannn> u need teh new rules
[19:52] <damienmannn> most sentences are like 5 words
[19:52] <damienmannn> want me to put periods?
[19:52] <Daekdroom> !ops
[19:52] <Phun5tar> anyone know how to help?
[19:52] <damienmannn> i need the lspci command please
[19:52] <pure_hate> damienmannn, yes are being really annoying
[19:52] <damienmannn> phun what u doin
[19:52] <damienmannn> im not
[19:52] <Gumby> wow, pathetic
[19:52] <damienmannn> im sorry
[19:53] <damienmannn> really high man
[19:53] <damienmannn> i just wanna reap
[19:53] <FloodBot4> damienmannn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:53] <Phun5tar> I have something strange in  my startup script
[19:53] <ikonia> ok - stop now
[19:53] <Phun5tar> dude, I'm high, too
[19:53] <zemeus> Is irc always like this?
[19:53] <Phun5tar> and I'm real chill...
[19:53] <Kyle__> zemeus: No, this is a pretty bad channel actually.
[19:53] <Daekdroom> zemeus, fortunately not
[19:53] <Gumby> Phun5tar: there are multiple startup script.  which one are you talking about?
[19:53] <damienmannn> chholoropins
[19:53] <IdleOne> Phun5tar: please stay on topic
[19:53] <damienmannn> 5 of em
[19:53] <ikonia> ok - all STOP now
[19:53] <Phun5tar> my desktop
[19:53] <Phun5tar> I was trying to calm someone else down
[19:53] <ikonia> check the topic of this channel with "/topic"
[19:54] <Phun5tar> and I hadn't seen anyone on my topic
[19:54] <ikonia> please stick to the topic of the channel
[19:54] <zemeus> ok, i haven't used irc since I was like 10... so I wasn't sure if there are always so many spammers
[19:54] <Gumby> Phun5tar: so when gnome loads you have something loading you dont want to load?
[19:54] <ikonia> zemeus: there normally aren't, if you stick to the topic, normal service will be resumue
[19:54] <Phun5tar> correct
[19:54] <flsdfklsdfhklsdf> Okay everyone
[19:54] <flsdfklsdfhklsdf> as nice as i can be
[19:55] <akiva> What is the minimum recommended HD space for UBuntu installs?
[19:55] <Phun5tar> firefox and my trash can
[19:55] <Gumby> Phun5tar: have a look at system-> preferences -> startup applications
[19:55] <ikthus> hi all
[19:55] <Roasted> akiva, for a core Ubuntu installation, I've done it with as little as 10 gig with plenty of extra. What's your goal?
[19:55] <MaRk-I> a +b might work on that guy
[19:55] <zemeus> on oracle it said the recommended was 8gb, not sure on a standalone
[19:55] <akiva> I am in a difficiult situation where I lost my last HD to power surge and now I have a Windows laptop that has a pretty full harddrive and I want to go back to Linux
[19:55] <akiva> I thought I read 20 gigs was recommended
[19:55] <akiva> But maybe I am wrong
[19:56] <Roasted> akiva, well it depends what you are doing. On my laptop, my root partition is only using 5gb, and I have quite a few applications installed.
[19:56] <Roasted> akiva, I have root/home separate, though, so my personal stuff is on my home partition. However, the actual OS + programs is on root, and root is 5gb in size.
[19:56] <Gumby> on a fairly fresh 10.04 amd64 I am at 3.5GB and up to date
[19:56] <Daekdroom> Back when I had 10GB for / and remaining for /home/, I ran into a space problem :P
[19:56] <Roasted> akiva, so I guess it depends what your goal is. Do you want to use Ubuntu and that's it? Do you want to have personal documents on this Ubuntu install? Etc.
[19:56] <Kyle__> akiva: You can get away with 4gigs, if you're in a pinch.  Maybe look at what's so full on windows?  If it's general files/downloads, split that onto it's own partition :)
[19:57] <ikthus> any solution for the slow usb transfer bug ?
[19:57] <Roasted> Daekdroom, I normally set 15-20gb partition size for root. But like I said, I have a full Ubuntu install on this laptop and 5gb is in use in the root partition. :P
[19:57] <Roasted> I always like a little overhead JUST IN CASE... never know.
[19:57] <drew212> is there a way to actively back up my home folder into a separate location on a different HDD in case my current drive fails?
[19:57] <Roasted> drew212, there's lots of ways.
[19:58] <ikonia> drew212: mount your other harddrive, and copy the data over, it's that simple
[19:58] <Roasted> drew212, I personally do that on my desktop at home. I set up an rsync script to run every 12 hours to back my entire home directory up to a different hard drive.
[19:58] <akiva> ANyone?
[19:58] <drew212> ikonia: i'm more looking at what roasted is talking about
[19:58] <zemeus> Does anyone know much about laptop hardware?
[19:58] <Kyle__> drew212: Like Roasted said, lots of ways.  Either write yoruself a backup script, or use backula, or backuppc, or amanda, or any one of the other dozens of backup programs out there.
[19:58] <Roasted> drew212, it really depends what you want to do. Do you just want a backup for one time and that's it? If so, copy it over as ikonia suggested. Do you want a more automated backup process? Theres lots of apps for that.
[19:58] <h00k> !anyone | zemeus
[19:58] <thune3> ikthus: what issue are you taking about?
[19:59] <drew212> Roasted: an automated backup
[19:59] <ikonia> drew212: it's a good solution
[19:59] <ikonia> drew212: the issue with that is  your machine has to be on when the crontab runs
[19:59] <Gumby> drew212: I can msg you a quick comamnd that will work
[19:59] <Roasted> drew212, well, I wrote a script using an rsync command. However, theres a lot of GUI applications that are based on rsync. So it depends which route you want to take - yet both get you to the same destination.
[19:59] <Gumby> or I can paste it here... its one line
[19:59] <jm_> anyone able to shed some light on ndiswrapper invalid driver faults?
[20:00] <zemeus> Sorry, I figured if someone knew a lot... they would respond, so I wouldn't nag everyone in the room.
[20:00] <Roasted> drew212, just keep in mind, if lightning hits that box and fries the hard drives (ALL drives) this backup does nothing. So while I highly recommend doing what you're asking, I still recommend backing up the most important data to an external hard drive or some other form of media.
[20:00] <drew212> Roasted: something with a GUI, but it needs to start on system startup, i don't want to have to remember to turn it on, i forget things easily
[20:00] <ikonia> drew212: put it in your rc.local
[20:00] <Roasted> drew212, well, I often shut my computer down during the day, but I have my backup run every 12 hours. If it runs at least once every 3 days, I'm happy. So while I shut my system down frequently, it runs frequently enough being its on a 12 hour schedule.
[20:01] <Roasted> drew212, you can customize that time frame to anything you want too, by the way.
[20:01] <drew212> Roasted: i have surge protectors, and i'm more looking for something to save to a drive because i frequently reformat and find i'm missing data i need
[20:01] <hotfloppy> Gumby: paste it here will ya? sharing is caring :)
[20:01] <Roasted> drew212, even still, I've seen motherboards get fried and in turn throw a "surge" at the hard drives - killing them.
[20:01] <Gumby> this will back up everything created 24 hours prior to it being run
[20:01] <Roasted> drew212, I've seen some WEIRD power failures, even with proper precautions put in place. I'd still recommend some form of backup for the CRUCIAL data.
[20:02] <Gumby>  find /path/to/source -mtime -1 -type f -exec pax -rw {} /path/to/destination \;
[20:02] <ikthus> thune3, was reporter many times, here for exemple https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/457768
[20:02] <Gumby> lots of other ways, but I know this one to work
[20:02] <drew212> roasted, yea, i'll look into that, i currently can't afford anything other than what i have 1 200gb drive, and a 500gb drive
[20:02] <Roasted> drew212, example, I back up my pictures on DVD once a month. I have pictures of people and pets that aren't with me anymore. To lose them, I'd freak out. So I do DVD backups of pictures since they are the most crucial to me, but the rest of the data is kind of whatever - I just let the drives sync up to back the data up.
[20:02] <Gumby> I should say created or modified
[20:02] <hotfloppy> Gumby: simple one liner eh.. nice..
[20:03] <Gumby> hotfloppy: yup, nice and simple
[20:03] <Roasted> drew212, it's all good. I'm just trying to play devil's advocate because it *IS* important to have more than 1 backup. I work for a large school district, and we have backups of backups of backups. We've had a lot of close calls with data loss, so I'm thankful for the redundancy we have. I apply that opinion to home use too, which is why I'm preaching it here. :P
[20:03] <drew212> Roasted: well thanks for informing me =)
[20:04] <Roasted> drew212, there are GUI applications to get started though. Most of which I have not used since I use a bin/bash script I created.
[20:04] <jm_> backups of backups of backups - perfect waste of public money
[20:04] <drew212> Roasted: currently the only problem i've had is self induced, so i want my data in two places in case i kill it in one location =D
[20:04] <Roasted> jm_, actually, it's not. Ever have a building burn to the ground with your core servers in place?
[20:04] <Zeppelean> hola
[20:04] <Gumby> drew212: if you add that line to /etc/rc.local and also setup a crontab entry for say every 6 hours or so you should be pretty safe
[20:04] <julianoliver> hi. i am trying to diagnose why my install of a lightly customised Ubuntu always boots read-only. i've remounted it as rw and it works fine and ensured that /etc/fstab has entries identical to my other Ubuntu and debian installs where applicable. fsck has no effect. any ideas?
[20:05] <Roasted> jm_, until you do and feel the relief of having an off-site backup, therefore saving yourself money from penalties you'd get from the state from losing critical student data information, I'd suggest being quiet with your opinions. Thanks.
[20:05] <ikonia> julianoliver: what have you customised in it
[20:05] <Zeppelean> gente, necesitaria ayuda para utilizar archivos de access en linux
[20:05] <Gumby> drew212: although if its an external drive, I'd add a check to make sure the drive was mounted first
[20:05] <Daekdroom> !es | Zeppelean
[20:05] <h00k> !ot
[20:05] <VilleVicious> how mutch recources does it take up when you have two user logged in (with switch user)?
[20:05] <Roasted> drew212, well, what do you want to set up - a direct home directory backup from 1 drive to another in the SAME system?
[20:06] <hotfloppy> Gumby: make a simple script from the command you gave.. thanks :)
[20:06] <Gumby> hotfloppy: nice, good work
[20:06] <hotfloppy> Gumby: i mean already make :P
[20:06] <drew212> i don't want it on the same HDD though, i like to destroy HDDs
[20:06] <julianoliver> ikonia: i've added a few packages, it auto boots into my software on reaching userland /home.
[20:06] <ikonia> julianoliver: ok, so nothing actual "custom", just a few config changes
[20:06] <julianoliver> ikonia: nothing in the fstab has been manipulated, neither init or etc
[20:07] <hotfloppy> Gumby: just in case, when i need to backup a thing.. this script will be handy :)
[20:07] <Gumby> hotfloppy: I have a script setup to run that command, tar the files, write the contents of that tar to a file, and email me that file nightly so I can make sure its run properly.  I do it at a client of mine.
[20:07] <ikonia> julianoliver: is it getting shut down clean ?
[20:07] <Roasted> drew212, you want to backup from 1 drive to a 2nd drive, right?> is this in the SAME computer?
[20:07] <hotfloppy> Gumby: you're such a guru..
[20:07] <geez> Howdy, just installed netbeans 6.9 ide from the Ubuntu Software Center. basically, a download from sun/netbeans. The install went OK. Now, no icon or way to invoke :-?
[20:07]  * hotfloppy bow to Gumby
[20:07] <drew212> yes
[20:07] <julianoliver> ikonia: after the first boot post install it mounted read-only, ever since i've shut it down clean, yes.
[20:08] <Gumby> hotfloppy: the great thing about it is, I can always tell when they have a cheque ready for me cause I see that their payables file for me has been edited
[20:08] <hotfloppy> Gumby: lol
[20:08] <webPragmatist> whats a good way to monitor throughput for na interface
[20:08] <Gumby> hotfloppy: naw, not a guru...  I just have good google fu and know how to ask a question :)
[20:08] <Roasted> drew212, well, if you want to check out a gui application, I'm not too sure I'll be of much more help, however, the GUI apps you want to check out are anything based on rsync.
[20:08] <Roasted> drew212, my script is simply 1 command.... rsync -a --progress --delete /home/jason/ /media/localbackup/
[20:08] <Sensiva> Hello, is it possible to know how many times a bug or a question has been viewed in Launchpad.net ?
[20:08] <drew212> Roasted: i'm looking now thanks a bunch =)
[20:09] <hotfloppy> Gumby: .. and a creative mind ;)
[20:09] <Gumby> hehe, that too
[20:09] <newboon2age> geez: there's probably a command to start it from the command line.  did you try netbeans from the CL?
[20:09] <julianoliver> ikonia: very oddly, it mounts rw as long as i first boot into rescue mode (errors=remount-ro) and *then* fsck and then select *clean* in the ncurses rescue options. if i boot normally, pull up a prompt, remount rw and fsck, no such luck.
[20:09] <Roasted> drew212, rsync -a (archiving) --progress shows me the progress of it if I run it manually in terminal (whcih I never do, so its not that important). then theres --delete, which means if I delete something on drive A, and the script runs, it deletes it on drive B. --delete sounds scary, but --delete means when it backs up, itll be EXACT to the source drive - aka your main drive.
[20:09] <Roasted> drew212, then of course, /home/jason is my home directory, and /media/localbackup is the location of the 2nd internal hard drive.
[20:09] <Gumby> my solution requires no rsync setup :P
[20:10] <Roasted> drew212, I just set it up in a #bin/bash script, set up crontab to execute it every 12 hours.
[20:10] <ikonia> julianoliver: when you boot into rescure mode, is there .fsck in the root file system
[20:10] <Roasted> drew212, from there, I do nothing. IT runs on its own. All of the time. Every 12 hours.
[20:10] <Roasted> I do... nothing. :P
[20:10] <newboon2age> geez: once you figure out what the invocation command is, you can create a launcher and put it on the desktop, in a menu or wherever.
[20:10] <Roasted> Gumby, whats your solution?
[20:10] <thune3> ikthus: are you using custom mount options?
[20:10] <Gumby> Roasted:  find /path/to/source -mtime -1 -type f -exec pax -rw {} /path/to/destination \;
[20:10] <ikonia> julianoliver: sorry /forefsck
[20:10] <Roasted> Gumby, okay. what's that do?
[20:10] <pgpkeys> i have evolution grabbing IMAPS'd subscribed folders. I have one specific folder that is constantly being double grabbed (which obviates that it thus slows down to all hell on offline syncing). How do I stop it from double grabbing and where is this defined?
[20:10] <ikonia> julianoliver: even sorrier, /forcefsck
[20:10] <Gumby> Roasted: pretty much what your rsync does :)
[20:11] <Gumby> not saying one is better than the other, just different solutions
[20:11] <Roasted> Gumby, differente solutions, same results. ahh, linux. :P
[20:11] <Roasted> I love it.
[20:11] <geez> netbeans is an IDE. in the case for groovy/grails
[20:11] <julianoliver> ikonia: there is no /forcefsck
[20:11] <Gumby> add to crontab, run when you want to :)
[20:11] <newboon2age> geez: also it might already be on the menu, but just not showing.  If you right click on the menu and pull up the menu editor, you can see if its already there (probably under programming) and then just check it so it will show.
[20:11] <ikonia> julianoliver: even more interesting
[20:11] <ikonia> julianoliver: when you fsck it, is it marked as dirty ?
[20:11] <Roasted> Gumby, I almost feel "old". the only way I know to use rsync is with crontab and terminal scripts. I dont even know the new gui apps out. :(
[20:12] <Phun5tar> I do not have the path that was given to me
[20:12] <Gumby> I fsck my gf and try to mark her as dirty but it never works
[20:12] <Roasted> lol?
[20:12] <Roasted> well I guess our conversation is over.
[20:12] <ikonia> yes
[20:12] <Roasted> so anyway drew212... find anything?
[20:12] <drew212> Roasted: i'm working with grsync
[20:12] <julianoliver> ikonia: no. 0.1 percent discontiguity and then it will continue to boot. it will crash at X (as it needs 'w') but if i 'clean' first it seems to be fine. the clean i need to test one more time however, to be sure that that's necessary. one moment.
[20:13] <Kyle__> Roasted: Don't feel old, feel like an old master.  You don't need the crutch of a gui.
[20:13] <Roasted> drew212, good stuff. g-admin has a lot of applications for server oriented things.
[20:13] <drew212> Roasted: how do i get it to automatically run on startup and every 6 hours?
[20:13] <ikonia> julianoliver: never seen anything like that
[20:13] <Phun5tar> I do not know how to edit my desktop startup script
[20:13] <julianoliver> ikonia: it's something of a boring mystery..
[20:13] <Roasted> drew212, ehh you might have me there. You're using a GUI app and I dont use a GUI app for rsync...
[20:13] <Roasted> drew212, I would THINK thered be an option for it within the menu though.
[20:14] <Phun5tar> as I said before, I'm a bit stoned and I can't recall my GUI version
[20:14] <Roasted> Kyle__, haaa yeah. You gotta love GUI stuff though... it DOES make some things easier. However, I'm a terminal junkie, and "stuck in my ways". :P
[20:14] <Kyle__> drew212: crontab for timed (every 12 hours), on startup... doesn't ubuntu have an /etc/rc.startup, or something like that.
[20:14] <Phun5tar> it is not gnome, per se
[20:14] <drew212> Roasted: i'm not scared of the CLI, but i'd rather know exactly what i'm doing
[20:14] <Kyle__> Roasted: Sometimes guis are nice, but by and large, I only use them when I need to show something to a manager/boss/etc.
[20:14] <drew212> i've never used crontab, so you'd have to walk me through it
[20:14] <Kyle__> Real work is done CLI.
[20:14] <Roasted> drew212, hey, completely understandable. I'm just saying my limitation with GUI rsync solutions is limited, so I hate to give you info I'm not 100% concrete on .
[20:15] <julianoliver> ikonia: sadly, i can't tail the logs as /var is ro. dmesg has a buffer limit.
[20:15] <julianoliver> perhaps i will alter this
[20:15] <ikonia> julianoliver: is it just / that's getting mounted ro
[20:15] <Roasted> drew212, well I basically run sudo gedit /etc/crontab, and it brings up a text editor with crontab. But keep in mind, crontab-ing it is with the script option that I use.
[20:15] <Phun5tar> anyone know CLI for editing desktop startup scripts?
[20:15] <julianoliver> ikonia: yes
[20:16] <drew212> Roasted: i prefer vim =)
[20:16] <julianoliver> Phun5tar: vim .xsession or .xinit
[20:16] <ikonia> julianoliver: what other partitions do you have
[20:16] <Roasted> drew212, you see, I create a script and name it "backup". then I set executable permissions to it. That means if I go to terminal and type backup, it runs (as long as ownership permissions are good - which since I own it, and I own the script, it works fine)
[20:16] <julianoliver> Phun5tar: vim .xsession or .xinitrc
[20:16] <Kyle__> drew212: /etc/rc.local :) put your on-start script in there.
[20:16] <p1l0t> Ok so I am getting repeat brute-force attacks on my server trying to guess the root password... I want to set up RSA key identification. I'm kinda of new to this though... I have to run ssh-keygen on the server right? and then copy one of the keys to any client machine that wants to connect right?
[20:16] <Roasted> drew212, then I add two entries in crontab. each of them executing by jason - aka me. the command is simply "backup". I set it to run every day, every month, every year, @ 4:00 and 16:00 - 4 am, 4 pm.
[20:17] <drew212> Kyle_i wouldn't know how to write a script, =X i'm a pretty basic user
[20:17] <Roasted> drew212, then what I did was I would add a bunch of bogus files in my source drive and the next day I'd check it to make sure it sync'd them to my destination drive.
[20:17] <Roasted> Kyle__, hm, I didnt know that. What all can you put in rc.local? Is it just for bin bash scripts to run on startup?
[20:17] <Phun5tar> I don't see items that correlate to my issue
[20:17] <solidturtle> hi, I have too much source code in my home from different project get from internet and I would put in another place than /home what is the best place? and what about rights?
[20:17] <Roasted> drew212, it's easy, you just need to know the command.
[20:17] <Phun5tar> upon using those commands, that is
[20:17] <julianoliver> ikonia: i have three in total. a bootable /dev/sda1, an extended /dev/sda3 and swap on /dev/sda5
[20:18] <Roasted> drew212, my script is 2 lines. first line is #!bin/bash. 2nd line is rsync -a --progress --delete /home/jason/ /media/localbackup/
[20:18] <Roasted> drew212, save, name it "backup" (my personal preference) and then allow executable rights to it.
[20:18] <Kyle__> Roasted: Yup.  It runs after all the other init scripts.  So if you want something non-standard to run on boot, you put it in there.
[20:18] <ikonia> julianoliver: what file systems are they / /home etc ?
[20:18] <Roasted> Kyle__, its just for bin bash scripts though?
[20:19] <CppIsWeird> i just tried installing ubuntu-xen-server and it says it cant be installed because one of its dependencies cannot be found, xen-tools.
[20:19] <drew212> Roasted: will rsync remove files if they're removed from the source dir?
[20:19] <julianoliver> ikonia: in fact the /dev/sda3 isn't mounted in fstab..
[20:19] <Roasted> drew212, by default, no. that's what the --delete tag does.
[20:19] <Kyle__> Roasted: It's for anything you want.  Just remember it runs as root :)
[20:19] <Drknezz> Hi guys! Anyone here has experience wiht Ubuntu PXE installs?
[20:19] <Roasted> drew212, thats my command by the way. You customize it to YOUR system.
[20:19] <Phun5tar> why does firefox and my trash can open upon desktop startup?
[20:19] <tyler_d1> I cannot hard code 2 static ip's in ubuntu 10.04 64, only one or hte other works, never both?
[20:19] <ikonia> julianoliver: if you boot without splash, do you see anything obvious ?
[20:19] <Roasted> Drknezz, Ive ran FOG on Ubuntu before, which PXE boots systems for imaging.
[20:19] <julianoliver> ikonia: yes, endless read-only filesystem reports.
[20:20] <Kyle__> Roasted: Sometimes I use it to mount things that are finicky, sometimes I use it for configs.  SOmetimes I use it cause I've compiled a service that I was too lazy to write a proper init script for :)
[20:20] <ikonia> julianoliver: how odd
[20:20] <ikonia> julianoliver: it's not an SSD is it ?
[20:20] <Drknezz> Roasted: im trying to install ubuntu from a tftp server running on windows, problem is, i need to preload drivers for my laptop net hardware
[20:20] <Roasted> Kyle__, hmm, never had a need for it *yet* but its a good thing to know.
[20:20] <julianoliver> ikonia: no
[20:20] <Roasted> Drknezz, hmm, wouldnt have any experience there. My experience is the opposite - I use ubuntu as the server, and image windows clients.
[20:21] <Drknezz> Roasted :S
[20:21] <CppIsWeird> i just tried installing ubuntu-xen-server and it says it cant be installed because one of its dependencies cannot be found, xen-tools.
[20:21] <ikonia> julianoliver: I can't think of a reason for this behaviour
[20:21] <Drknezz> CppIsWeird: Do you have any other repos than the normal ones?
[20:21] <julianoliver> ikonia: nor can i. it's quite troubling really.
[20:21] <Kyle__> Roasted: That file, or one like it, is found in most every linux/BSD and other unix like system.
[20:21] <h00k> julianoliver: it's not an odd custom kernel or anything, is it?
[20:21] <CppIsWeird> Drknezz, i have whatever came with the system upon install.
[20:21] <julianoliver> ikonia: i mean, why is it that an fsck each time will allow me through to a normal boot?
[20:22] <julianoliver> h00k: no, not at all.
[20:22] <Drknezz> CppIsWeird: Hmmm...
[20:22] <bihari> can any one help me ? i got some problem
[20:22] <ikonia> julianoliver: more so when it's clean before fsck anyway
[20:22] <Drknezz> CppIsWeird: try visiting the official webpage and download DEBs from there
[20:22] <Roasted> Kyle__, not sure I understand. would I just add th ename of the bin/bash file to the end (but before the exit 0) of rc.local?
[20:22] <bihari> Cannot run gyvoice due to the following missing files:
[20:22] <bihari>       tsd32.dll
[20:22] <bihari>       tssoft.acm
[20:22] <Roasted> Kyle__, I thought rc.local was a folder, and I'd just throw the script in. I didnt realize it was a text file.
[20:22] <julianoliver> ikonia: in fact i just proved that correlation wrong. i booted normally in rescue-mode after fsck and no clean.
[20:22] <ikonia> bihari: those are windows files
[20:23] <ikonia> julianoliver: it's not clean ?
[20:23] <h00k> bihari: also, use !pastebin for pasting multiple files.
[20:23] <h00k> lines8
[20:23] <bihari> so how to short out this problem
[20:23] <Kyle__> Roasted: Yes.  You'd add it before the exit.  Technically rc.local _is_ a bash script, so you'd put your code in there, or call it from there, like you would in any other bash script.
[20:23] <ikonia> bihari: what are you trying to run ?
[20:23] <julianoliver> ikonia: i don't know. 'clean' in the Ubuntu rescue-mode ncurses UI relates to freeing up disk space, which i assume == apt-get clean.
[20:23] <Roasted> Kyle__, gotcha. good deal.
[20:24] <bihari> gaychi
[20:24] <Roasted> drew212, you still out there?
[20:24] <ikonia> julianoliver: drop into a rescure shell, rather than ncurses
[20:24] <teicah> I have a LONG question -> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/UHghpZQs
[20:24] <bihari> gaychi is yahoo clint which support voice chat
[20:24] <ikonia> julianoliver: first thing, fsck it see what it reports
[20:24] <hotfloppy> Phun5tar: maybe you had ticked the option to remember your open application on log out.. if thats the case, those open application will reopen automatically on startup.. to disable it, go to System > Startup Application, go to Option tab and untick the option..
[20:24] <ikonia> bihari: use the linux version rather than the windows version
[20:24] <drew212> Roasted: yeah, i've backed up my folder, i'm short on time so i'll have to look at the scripting later
[20:24] <julianoliver> ikonia: i have tried that. just 0.1% discontiguity.
[20:24] <hotfloppy> Phun5tar: sorry if i'm not helping enough :)
[20:24]  * julianoliver does it again.
[20:24] <ikonia> julianoliver: while I don't doubt you, that "can't" be right
[20:25] <drew212> Roasted: currently i can just run it every now and then, which will be fine
[20:25] <bihari> yes gaychi is linux version
[20:25] <Cozarinsky> Hi!
[20:25] <p1l0t> Can I suggest adding https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys to ubottu under !rsa
[20:25] <ikonia> bihari: then why is it asking for windows files
[20:25] <julianoliver> ikonia: let me try one more time to be sure
[20:25] <ikonia> julianoliver: I'm not doubting you at all, I'm just saying it doesn't make sense, it should be dirty
[20:25] <bihari> i dont kniow
[20:25] <bihari> know
[20:25] <Thorn_> Hello. Wubi does not show "Install Inside Windows" button at all on any of my machines (Tested Win7 and XP). Googled around to no avail. The middle button and its related description simply does not appear in the application.
[20:25] <Thorn_>  http://ader008.titandsl.co.uk/thorn/wubinowubi.jpg   vs     http://www.linoob.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/wubi-1.PNG
[20:25] <Roasted> drew212, good deal, and good luck. I gotta get back to some wiring here. If you want to pursue the scripting idea further like I have it set up, PM me @ "Roasted" on UbuntuForums.org. Otherwise if you just have GUI app questions about it, I might not be the best person to ask, but I'm sure others in here would know more about that area. :)
[20:26] <CppIsWeird> Drknezz, the official site does not have a deb.
[20:26] <h00k> p1l0t: in a /query to ubottu, you can suggest factoid changes with !rsa is <stuff goes here>
[20:26] <julianoliver> ikonia: hmm when i simply 'fsck /dev/sda1' it reports it clean.
[20:26] <Drknezz> CppIsWeird: Youll have to compile it yourself then, they must have a compilation page around there
[20:26] <bihari> i can access the chat rooms but when i on the voice chat it give me  following missing files
[20:26] <ikonia> julianoliver: ok - he's a test
[20:26] <h00k> bihari: you
[20:26] <CppIsWeird> nah, that doesnt make sense.
[20:26] <CppIsWeird> there has to be another reason my system cant find that package.
[20:26] <ikonia> julianoliver: boot it so it's a "problem" again, reboot into recue shell, manually mount the disk without an fsck, what does it say
[20:26] <h00k> bihari: you'll probably have to get support from the software maintainers for help using it, then
[20:27] <CppIsWeird> i just tried installing ubuntu-xen-server and it says it cant be installed because one of its dependencies cannot be found, xen-tools.
[20:27] <bihari> can i install this windows file on my ubuntu so that it will support?
[20:27] <ikonia> CppIsWeird: make sure your repo is up to date, and you do an apt-get first to make sure all the versions are current with the repo
[20:27] <bihari> is there any way
[20:28] <julianoliver> ikonia: but it already mounts, it errors=remount-ro
[20:28] <ikonia> julianoliver: yup, reboot, recovery shell, mount it rw manually, what does it say/do
[20:28] <p1l0t> h00k: thanks!
[20:28] <CppIsWeird> i dont know what this means "make sure all the versions are current with the repo" and my apt-get is up to date.
[20:28] <MaRk-I> p1l0t: you can also implement fail2ban
[20:29] <p1l0t> MaRk-I: What is fail2ban?
[20:29] <julianoliver> ikonia: nothing, as my original question said. alles gut/super.
[20:29] <ikonia> julianoliver: so if you mount it manually, it just mounts fine
[20:29] <MaRk-I> p1l0t: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+package/fail2ban
[20:29] <julianoliver> ikonia: the system is fine and ready to be used.
[20:29] <julianoliver> ikonia: yep
[20:29] <ikonia> julianoliver: apologies if I've missed part of the conversation
[20:29] <hotfloppy> bihari: maybe you could submit a bug report.. http://gyachi.sourceforge.net/bugs.shtml
[20:29] <julianoliver> ikonia: no probs
[20:29] <teicah> is there a "gconftool-2" command to set one specific $HOME/folder to list view in nautilus?
[20:29] <MattoD>  hi all, quick Question, i am using server 10.04, iwant to access root via WinSCP on a different PC so i can drag and drop,how do i go about this and its on same network
[20:30] <p1l0t> MaRk-I: thanks!
[20:30] <bihari> humm
[20:30] <MaRk-I> bihari: check the instructions you need to install "tsp codecs"
[20:30] <ikonia> MattoD: you don't it's locked
[20:30] <ikonia> MattoD: you'd have to unlock the root account
[20:30] <MaRk-I> p1l0t: yw
[20:30] <hotfloppy> bihari: because, i think thats impossible for linux program to ask for windows file..
[20:30] <MattoD> how do i unlock it?
[20:30] <julianoliver> ikonia: it's a very odd problem indeed, not one i've had with a debian machine. i wonder if it's the new Ubuntu UID disk addressing playing up?
[20:30] <hotfloppy> bihari: so, thats might be a bug..
[20:30] <ikonia> MattoD: just set a password on it
[20:30] <MaRk-I> bihari: send me a PM
[20:31] <ikonia> julianoliver: I strongly doubt it
[20:31] <julianoliver> right
[20:31] <bihari> oki
[20:32] <ohir> MattoD: you should not set up root password.
[20:32] <ikonia> ohir: he has to if he wants to unlock the root account
[20:32] <arvind_khadri> !root | MattoD
[20:32] <ohir> MattoD: you may still use scp/sftp authenticating with key
[20:32] <Thorn_> Is there an official WUBI IRC channel?
[20:33] <ohir> MattoD: man sshd will tell you how to set up your key
[20:33] <Pici> ohir: You don't need to unlock the root account to do that iirc.
[20:33] <MattoD> okies ty
[20:33] <MaRk-I> hotfloppy: that particular program does need them codecs for voice to work
[20:33] <ohir> ikonia: no, he does not need to do local unlock if all he needs is remote acces
[20:33] <ikonia> ohir: agreed, it depends on what his client supports
[20:34] <ohir> MattoD: use clause rootlogin without-password in your sshd.conf
[20:35] <hotfloppy> MaRk-I: oic.. i thought its a bug :P
[20:35] <hotfloppy> MaRk-I: whats the codec ? is it in repo ?
[20:35] <MaRk-I> hotfloppy: lol nah strange but needed for yahoo voice
[20:35] <ohir> MattoD: for better protection restrict key usage to your private network (ie 192.168.0.*)
[20:36] <MaRk-I> it might be in win32codecs
[20:36] <MaRk-I> but you can d/l them and install manually
[20:36] <BluesKaj> w32codecs
[20:36] <MaRk-I> BluesKaj: yes those thanks
[20:37] <MattoD> i have the get-apt desktop installed to, i managed it on 9.04 but cant seem to on 10.04
[20:37] <Pici> ohir: You shouldn't need to change anything on a default Ubuntu install.  As long as the root account is locked you are fine.  If you choose to setup hostkey auth for root then that will work without any changes to your sshd_config.
[20:37] <BluesKaj> MattoD, sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop ?
[20:37] <hotfloppy> BluesKaj: 'apt-cache search w32codecs' show me nothing..
[20:38] <MattoD> yes i have that installed
[20:38] <MaRk-I> hotfloppy: those are from medibuntu repos
[20:38] <CppIsWeird> i just tried installing ubuntu-xen-server and it says it cant be installed because one of its dependencies cannot be found, xen-tools.
[20:38] <MattoD> but last time i was using 9.04 with desktop and there was a unlock button but not on 10.04
[20:39] <kevin64_irssi> hi
[20:39] <hotfloppy> MaRk-I: of course.. its windoze.. such a lame i am :(
[20:39] <hotfloppy> MaRk-I: thanks :)
[20:39] <BluesKaj> hotfloppy, install ubuntu-restricted-extras , and the medibuntu repos
[20:39] <hotfloppy> BluesKaj: thanks :)
[20:40] <BluesKaj> hotfloppy, enable the canonical partners and 3rd party sources in the package manager as well
[20:41] <ohir> Pici: Don't have default sshd.conf at hand. Though I bet that it has PermitRootLogin set to no. Anyway, reading man will be good though for one who asked. :)
[20:42] <ohir> Pici: if default sshd.conf has root login enabled it needs to be changed ;)
[20:43] <NarbeH> I have problem with "cutter" command.
[20:43] <tdn> I would like to practically test the strength of the passwords on my system. So I installed john and some word list packages. Then started john /path/to/shadow-file, but it did not work. I got: No password hashes loaded. What am I doing wrong?
[20:43] <ikonia> ohir: not if the root account is locked
[20:43] <MattoD> how do i unlock it? was so much easier with 9.04 server & desktop, 1 click fix
[20:44] <NarbeH> I have problem with "cutter" command.
[20:44] <durt> hey folks, anyone know how to get horizontal scrolling to work on a synapitics click pad?
[20:44] <hotfloppy> repeat | NarbeH
[20:44] <_Thorn_> Hello. Wubi does not show "Install Inside Windows" button at all on any of my machines (Tested Win7 and XP). Googled around to no avail. The middle button and its related description simply does not appear in the application.
[20:44] <_Thorn_>  http://ader008.titandsl.co.uk/thorn/wubinowubi.jpg   vs     http://www.linoob.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/wubi-1.PNG
[20:44] <webPragmatist> how can i mount /home to a different partition
[20:44] <_Thorn_> (last time iask ); p
[20:44] <webPragmatist> or whats the common use here
[20:44] <NarbeH> hotfloppy: sorry?
[20:44] <h00k> durt: system -> preferences > mouse > touchpad tab
[20:45] <hotfloppy> ubottu: why dont u respond.. >:(
[20:45] <NarbeH> hotfloppy: aha got it
[20:45] <durt> h00k, ya, seen that, doesn't do anything though...
[20:45] <guntbert> hotfloppy: you forgot the !
[20:46] <hotfloppy> guntbert: lol.. am i stoned or what ?
[20:46] <h00k> durt: doesn't do anything like the checkbox won't check, or it has no effect?
[20:46] <psych787> Where is the alternate DVD for kubuntu? I need to install on a RAID array.
[20:46] <Guest18457> hi there.  I'm trying to install 10.04 to a usb drive so I can have a persistent install.  I keep seeing guides that say it should be formatted to FAT32.  doesn't that mean it will have the 4 gig file size limit?
[20:47] <durt> h00k, no effect, then again, I have no experience with synaptics, so I could be missing something
[20:47] <CppIsWeird> i just tried installing ubuntu-xen-server and it says it cant be installed because one of its dependencies cannot be found, xen-tools.
[20:47] <h00k> durt: in theory, that 'should' allow you to use the bottom strip of your touchpad for horizontal scrolling
[20:47] <psych787> Where is the alternate DVD for kubuntu? I need to install on a RAID array.
[20:48] <io> MattoD: It is discouraged to enable the root account, but if you are sure then set a password "sudo passwd root".
[20:48] <h00k> CppIsWeird: can you install xen-tools first? What are you using to install?
[20:48] <CppIsWeird> apt-get
[20:48] <pgpkeys> anyone using google calendar with evolution and know how to set it up? been trying to follow the instructions I found googling but to no avail
[20:48] <BluesKaj> CppIsWeird, do you have access to a tty ? if so then sudo aptitude install xen-tools
[20:48] <psych787> Hello? Can anyone help?
[20:49] <h00k> CppIsWeird: try 'sudo aptitude install ubuntu-xen-server'
[20:49] <h00k> CppIsWeird: from a terminal
[20:49] <xangua> pgpkeys: create a new calendar and select 'google' as type
[20:50] <durt> h00k, nup, it's a click pad, fairly new, the whole thing 'clicks', and where your finger is on the bottom edge determins whether it's a right or left click. So scrolling there would be difficult. Top edge scolling would be nice though.
[20:50] <io> psych787: It is at http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/lucid/. Try #kubuntu in future.
[20:50] <duffydack> Ok, how can I get execute perms on a setup.exe I`m trying to run with wine, but on a cdrom?
[20:50] <xangua> psych787: that would be.........in kubuntu's web
[20:50] <duffydack> I get some error about the security aspects..
[20:50] <psych787> Thanks.
[20:50] <dajhorn> Guest18457: FAT32 has a 4GB file size limit.   Create the USB stick and check whether the Live environment uses a loopback on the USB stick.
[20:50] <io> duffydack: Could you pastebin them?
[20:50] <CppIsWeird> blueskaj no candidate found for xen-tools
[20:51] <sandking> anyone know a way to split stereo sound file into two mono files?
[20:51] <kangu> what lightweight ubuntu version can I use on my old i386 computer ?
[20:51] <boozler> How can I get extra keys to work in ubuntu?  Iv tried going to system > preferences > keyboard > layouts and selecting different model key boards but I'v had no success. My keyboard is a logitech pro 2000 wireless usb. Im specifically trying to get extra equal sign, open and close paranthese above my numpad to work.
[20:51] <duffydack> io, all it is, is I cant chmod +x a file on a cd..obviously.. must be a way around it.  its a gui dialog btw
[20:52] <julianoliver> ikonia: the thread that relates to my problem is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=621079
[20:52] <h00k> duffydack: perhaps...um, copy the files off the CD and then run them, ionno
[20:52] <POC|Farmer> sandking: you could use audacity
[20:52] <sean-laptop> kangu, fluxbuntu
[20:52] <ikonia> julianoliver: looking
[20:52] <sandking> POC|Farmer: thx
[20:52] <duffydack> io, http://pastebin.org/384692
[20:52] <sean-laptop> kangu, its the lightest weight you can get..
[20:52] <Loshki> sandking: I've done that in windows using Adobe audition. I bet you can do it in audacity too. Just save each channel independently to different files...
[20:52] <IdleOne> w32codecs is replaced by ubuntu-restricted-extras correct?
[20:53] <CppIsWeird> i just tried installing ubuntu-xen-server and it says it cant be installed because one of its dependencies cannot be found, xen-tools.
[20:53] <mek8630> Does this channel cover Linux Mint or do I have to find a Mint channel?
[20:53] <sean-laptop> kangu, but a i386? not too many current GUI-based distros would be suitable.. puppy linux MAYBE! or Deli Linux
[20:53] <io> mek8630: This covers the Ubuntu distribution only.
[20:53] <IdleOne> !mintsupport | mek8630
[20:53] <Loshki> duffydack: what h00k said....
[20:54] <duffydack> Loshki, h00k yeah I`ll try, and hope it doesnt look for a 'cd'
[20:54] <BluesKaj> CppIsWeird, no need to repeat your question , try xen-utils
[20:54] <kangu> sean-laptop, thanks I'm gonna give it a try :)
[20:54] <Loshki> duffydack: if all else fails, copy it, change the permissions, then reburn to a new cd...
[20:54] <boozler> How can I get extra keys to work in ubuntu? Iv tried going to system > preferences > keyboard > layouts and selecting different model key boards but I'v had no success.
[20:54] <sean-laptop> kangu, i want to know the ram specs on your 386
[20:55] <duffydack> Loshki, but its a cd.. its a read only device..  ?
[20:55] <dajhorn> IdleOne: No, w32codecs (and w64codecs) are currently separate, at least the ones that I have installed from the medibuntu repositories.
[20:55] <kangu> sean-laptop, 64m
[20:55] <Loshki> duffydack: well try h00k's idea first. But if it needs a cd, you'll have to beg or borrow access to a cd burner...
[20:56] <Raptors> Hey guys
[20:56] <Raptors> Did anyone here install mediatomb form source?
[20:56] <E_MAN> does ununtu find drivers for ethernet cards, graphics cards, sound cards, ect, automaticialy?
[20:56] <duffydack> Umm I found a solution.. the default wine launcher (cautious-launcher) doesnt work, but just telling it open with wine work
[20:56] <Raptors> I'm tying to figure out what "libjs" is
[20:56] <sean-laptop> kangu, i recommend puppy linux.. try an older one with a kernal that can support legacy hardware.. hope over to #puppylinux for more info
[20:56] <E_MAN> nevermind
[20:57] <sean-laptop> kangu, hop over i mean
[20:57] <Loshki> E_MAN: for common hardware, the answer is generally yes. But the newer the hardware, the more likely it is that is may not be supported yet. Use the live cd to check out if everything works *before* you install..
[20:58] <Proz> Hello, I jsut finished installing tux racer.
[20:58] <duffydack> Loshki, lookin at mount (/dev/sr0 on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660 (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,user=dean)  its got noexec, so I made an fstab line to include exec but it still wont work and mounts like that
[20:58] <Proz> However, when I click it from the games menu, it wont start
[20:58] <Proz> No error message, no response what so ever. Would anyone know what might cause that
[20:58] <derjoerg> Hi, I have karmic with a atheros AR5001X+ configured with hostap as access-point. Clients can connect, but lose connection after about 30 sec and then re-connect and losing ... Any tips/tricks/hints?
[20:59] <duffydack> nevermind, I have a workaround...
[20:59] <leagris> Proz, you may get more error output by launching tuxracer within a shell window
[20:59] <Proz> I'll try, thanks
[20:59] <Loshki> duffydack: try taking out all the 'no' keywords. Did you comment out the original fstab line when you put in the new one?
[20:59] <duffydack> Loshki, damn now the fstab line works..
[20:59] <guntbert> Raptors: javascript - try aptitude search libjs
[21:00] <Proz> How can I find out the shell command to start it Leagris. I'm not that good with Linux yet. Sorry
[21:00] <sldfjgh> Is it just me or has the icon for the alarm clock applet shrunk recently?
[21:00] <duffydack> Loshki, for future reference I just added /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom0 iso9660,udf user,noauto,exec 0 0    to fstab
[21:00] <Loshki> duffydack: depends where you added it and if you commented out the old line. fstab will grab the first line that matches your device
[21:01] <duffydack> Loshki, there was no cdrom line in my fstab, i used usb to install.
[21:01] <Loshki> duffydack: does Setup run now?
[21:01] <duffydack> Loshki, yup
[21:01] <duffydack> Loshki,  and after adding a cd to winesetup
[21:01] <Proz> How do I find out the correct name to start programs in a shell? (which is a terminal, I presume)
[21:02] <Loshki> duffydack: best of luck with the rest, then....
[21:02] <duffydack> Loshki, half of the problem was the wine launcher being used, as just plain 'wine'  worked.
[21:02] <guntbert> Proz: do you have it in the menu?
[21:02] <Proz> I have two terminal windows open
[21:02] <julianoliver> Proz: if you have an idea of the name of the program, type a few characters and hit TAB. if it 'completes' then you have it, if not, then try another guess. eventually you just learn all the ones you wish to use.
[21:02] <pdk`> quick Q, is it possible to add the power button to the desktop in lucid + gnome
[21:03] <julianoliver> Proz: does this answer your question?
[21:03] <dajhorn> pdk`: The default desktop in Lucid puts the power button in the top-right corner of the screen.  Do you need something different?
[21:04] <Proz> Well, no as I can't find "extreme tux racer" - Tux - racer and extreme don't give me anything
[21:04] <julianoliver> ikonia: this ro problem is so odd i'm going for a new partition configuration and full reinstall
[21:04] <pdk`> dajhorn i was wondering if it' d be possible to make it a desktop icon
[21:04] <ikonia> julianoliver: I'll be interested in knowing what happens
[21:04] <Proz> Hmm found it. etracer.
[21:04] <root> hello everyone
[21:04] <munis> hi
[21:05] <Loshki> Proz: sometimes programmers give things whimsical names that have little to do with their true purpose...
[21:05] <Proz> It gives me a segmentation error.
[21:05] <munis> how are you today
[21:05] <julianoliver> Proz: you can also 'apropos <your-best-guess>'
[21:05] <julianoliver> Proz: apropos is a really handy little utility in this regard.
[21:05] <munis> yahoo messenger
[21:05] <Guest21039> sometimes the name will be used only once, so they think, what they hay, why not give it a random name?
[21:05] <Proz> Found it though, julianoliver and it gave me a segmentaton error.
[21:05] <munis> web chat
[21:06] <Proz> Hmm wow, yes, apropos is good.
[21:06] <julianoliver> Proz: right. must be something wrong with the binary. that's a programmer's fault in most cases.
[21:06] <Loshki> munis: do you have a question?
[21:06] <zus> hi  does anyone know if i can use my bluetooth head set for my phone as a mic for the pc? i have the bluetooth adapter  will this work for voice recording for screencasts or even skype and voip in empathy?
[21:06] <Guest21039> anyways, i need some help navigating irc
[21:06] <guntbert> Guest21039: don't do irc as root, don't do *any* regular work as root
[21:06] <Proz> Oke, thanks JulianoLiver, I was looking for something to see if my graphic card drivers were installed properly. Could you recommend me something else to test it with?
[21:06] <derjoerg> hi everybody
[21:06] <Guest21039> im trying to find a section that can help me with gcc c++ assembly linkage and AT&T instruction sets... google has been rather useless for the information im seeking
[21:07] <dajhorn> pdk`: Put a link to /sbin/poweroff onto the desktop.
[21:07] <derjoerg> is this the right place to ask some questions regarding wireless-accesspoint problems?
[21:07] <pdk`> hm does that go straight to shutdown or does it pop up the menu
[21:07] <julianoliver> Proz: if OpenGL acceleration is what you want to test, then 'glxinfo | grep direct'
[21:07] <Loshki> Guest21039: that's pretty specialized. What are you trying to do? Compile something?
[21:07] <julianoliver> Proz: if the line returned contains "yes" you're in business.
[21:07] <Agu10_> hi
[21:08] <guntbert> Guest21039: try to ask in ##c++
[21:08] <Proz> It contains a "need packet 'mesa-utils'"
[21:08] <Proz> which I'll get first.
[21:08] <dajhorn> pdk`:  This command works for me as a regular user:   ln -s /sbin/poweroff "$HOME/Desktop/"
[21:08] <Agu10> hi
[21:08] <guntbert> derjoerg: if you are having the problems in ubuntu - yes
[21:08] <Guest21039> im simply tryingn to understand the assembly side of programming... for optimization of mathematical calculations i will impliment with my applications
[21:08] <derjoerg> yep :)
[21:09] <Agu10> when I try to connect to a wifi network, it stays in the "connecting" state forever
[21:09] <Agu10> and I don't get internect access therefore
[21:09] <Guest21039> ill go check ##C++
[21:09] <Loshki> Guest21039: this isn't a good group for that kind of topic. I agree with guntbert, try ##c++
[21:09] <capletonX> Hi all.  Does anyone know if it is possible to load two grubs?  I'd like to keep grub2 on my ubuntu install, and then from it be able to go to grub vanilla with my arch install.  Is this possible?  if so, how?
[21:09] <derjoerg> I have an accesspoint running within karmic, but the connections from the clients are flapping
[21:09] <Loshki> Guest21039: see also ##asm
[21:10] <julianoliver> ikonia: no, it still fails.
[21:10] <derjoerg> with a "hardware" accesspoint (e.g. dlink) the clients can connect
[21:10] <dajhorn> capletonX: You could install the second instance of Grub to a partition, and then chainload +1 it from the first instance.
[21:10] <derjoerg> so I think it is a problem within ubuntu
[21:10] <ikonia> julianoliver: I just can't think of anything that would cause that, beyond the disk being marked as dirty
[21:11] <Loshki> capletonX: I've never done it myself, but I believe you can 'chainload' from one grub to another. It's how grub boots windows. Start googling :-)
[21:11] <julianoliver> ikonia: there is no /forcefsck and even when i manually put it there, it never gets to fsck.
[21:11] <julianoliver> ikonia: i simply have to manually fsck at the root prompt and all is well.
[21:11] <ikonia> julianoliver: that's interesting
[21:12] <ikonia> julianoliver: I wonder why /forcefsck is not causing it to check
[21:12] <capletonX> dajhorn, and Loshki; thank you!  Looking over to google now :)
[21:12] <dajhorn> capletonX:  Welcome.
[21:12] <duffydack> touch /forcefsck works for me
[21:12] <ikonia> julianoliver: ok - here is a long shot, and I do mean long shot
[21:12] <julianoliver> ikonia: this is something of a clue, perhaps.
[21:12] <ikonia> julianoliver: is your grub uuid the same as the one in your fstab ?
[21:12] <ikonia> julianoliver: I'm wondering if grub mounts it ro then when it parses fstab it's different so can't remount it rw
[21:13] <julianoliver> ikonia: i will check. remember earlier i thought that something fishy could be up with the uuid...
[21:13] <julianoliver> ikonia: i mean this makes /some/ sense.
[21:13] <ikonia> (as it's a diferent partition)
[21:13] <ikonia> julianoliver: I don't think it's uuid - more so different data
[21:13] <ikonia> julianoliver: I's a LONG shot though
[21:13]  * julianoliver checks all this
[21:13] <lojack> Hello.  Can anyone help me with a Gnome menu issue, please.
[21:13] <lojack> Trying to add a menu entry to a new sub-menu.
[21:13] <Loshki> ikonia: an inspired guess, though. Nice one...
[21:13] <Agu10> can anyone help me?
[21:13] <lojack> According to freedesktop.org specs sub-menus (under) Applications are defined in the file /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu
[21:14] <lojack>  I can't seem to figure out how to make my apps appear (system-wide) in a sub-menu defined within /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu
[21:14] <Loshki> !ask | Agu10
[21:14] <Agu10> when I try to connect to a wifi network, it stays in the "connecting" state forever. Therefor, I cannot access the internet...
[21:14] <Agu10> I already asked :S
[21:15] <Loshki> Agu10: sometimes it takes a while till Someone Who Knows comes along. You can repeat your question every 15 minutes until that happens...
[21:16] <julianoliver> ikonia: the UUID for root= ends with "cc620", as does that in the /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:16] <Agu10> Loshki, ok... it's just there are too many people here :S
[21:17] <Loshki> Agu10: more people increases your chances of finding Someone Who Knows, so you can't win...
[21:17] <ikonia> julianoliver: ok, so that's another theory gone
[21:17] <Agu10> Loshki, no, I mean that there's too many people writing
[21:17] <kangu> sean-laptop, ?
[21:17] <Loshki> julianoliver: I missed the history of your issue. Do you want to recap it? Sometimes that helps...
[21:17] <julianoliver> ikonia: i will see if the manual fsck produces a normal remaining boot on this new install.
[21:17] <laclasse> Agu10, look into your logs to see what is happening ...
[21:18] <ikonia> julianoliver: I'll keep thinking
[21:18] <julianoliver> Loshki: the initial question: i am trying to diagnose why my install of a lightly customised Ubuntu always boots read only. i've remounted it as rw and it works fine and ensured that /etc/fstab has entries identical to my other Ubuntu and debian installs where applicable. any ideas?
[21:19] <julianoliver> Loshki: furthermore, if i manually fsck on a rescue-mode boot, it continues to boot fine. at no point is there a /forcefsck to be seen however and if i place it there as a hack workaround, it is ignored.
[21:20] <duffydack> julianoliver, I`m late to the discussion but doesnt sudo touch /forcefsck and a reboot work?
[21:20] <julianoliver> duffydack: no.
[21:20] <ikonia> duffydack: it "should"
[21:20] <julianoliver> duffydack: part of the general oddness.
[21:20] <duffydack> yeah, weird
[21:21] <Loshki> julianoliver: I assume you've already covered the fact that if an fsck fails on the root partition during boot, the system leaves it mounted ro. Did any of your customisations touch the boot scripts? Which OS, btw?
[21:21] <duffydack> any funky fstab entries?
[21:21] <julianoliver> Loshki: Ubuntu 9.04
[21:21] <julianoliver> duffydack: no, all stock after install
[21:21] <duffydack> julianoliver, what filesystem
[21:21] <julianoliver> Loshki: i didn't touch anything in init, as far as i recall.
[21:21] <julianoliver> duffydack: ext3
[21:22] <duffydack> julianoliver, silly question maybe, install 10.04?
[21:22] <julianoliver> duffydack: i don't want to. this is a custom install designed to host some software i'm running for a museum.
[21:23] <cryptide> printer was working but now it isn't listed on my admin >> printing window.  lsusb confirms that it is attached.  what next?
[21:24] <duffydack> julianoliver, and your fstab line includes the 0 1 etc at the end of each line?
[21:24] <Loshki> julianoliver: does 9.04 still have /etc/init.d/checkroot.sh ?
[21:24] <piglet12> hello
[21:24] <julianoliver> Loshki: i'll check after this next boot. good call..
[21:24] <julianoliver> duffydack: yes
[21:25]  * duffydack looks at checkroot, never heard of it.
[21:25] <harfooz> hi folks, I have a fresh installation of 10.4 and no longer have a terminal beep, i.e. when autocomplete fails to find a unique match or when I get an email in Tbird.
[21:25] <duffydack> Meh.. doesnt exist in lucid
[21:25] <thune3> cryptide: check if cupsd is running
[21:26] <piglet12> ive got a problem getting the wireless to work on my compaq mini 110c with ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[21:26] <Slart> harfooz: I think they added the pc speaker kernel module to the blacklist in 10.04 (or possible earlier)
[21:26] <julianoliver> Loshki: yes it does
[21:26] <Slart> harfooz: I assume you want the beep back?
[21:26] <harfooz> Slart: yes
[21:26] <Loshki> julianoliver: is there anything interesting in FSCK_LOGFILE (/var/log/fsck/checkroot in my 8.04)
[21:27] <cryptide> thune3: cupsd: Child exited on signal 15!
[21:27] <tdn> I would like to practically test the strength of the passwords on my system. So I installed john and some word list packages. Then started john /path/to/shadow-file, but it did not work. I got: No password hashes loaded. What am I doing wrong? I have unshadowed the file.
[21:27] <julianoliver> Loshki: logs can't be written due to the ro status of the fs
[21:27] <MichealH> harfooz: I would assume you would have to pop some code in to the blacklist files
[21:27] <Slart> harfooz: run this  "EDITOR=gedit sudoedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf"  it will get you a text editor with the blacklist loaded.. look near the end
[21:27] <Agu10> when I try to connect to a wifi network, it stays in the "connecting" state forever. Therefor, I cannot access the internet...
[21:27] <Slart> harfooz: there should be a line   "blacklist pcspkr" with a comment above it explaining that it's noisy and whatnot
[21:27] <root__> Hi. When I start my computer up, I see the plymouth screen, and then the default purple background with my mouse cursor, and I can move my mouse cursor for a split second, then completely unresponsive.
[21:28] <root__> Any advice?
[21:28] <harfooz> MichealH and Slart: thanks for the lead -- I'll look into it right away. Many thanks y'all!
[21:28] <piglet12> ive got a problem getting the wireless to work on my compaq mini 110c with ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[21:28] <MichealH> harfooz: No proble I like to help[
[21:28] <Slart> harfooz: just add a # at the start of that line, save the file, reboot and it should work again
[21:28] <sean-laptop> kangu,  go to channel #puppylinux.  they may be able to recommend a puppy variant to tryu on your i386
[21:28] <MichealH> piglet12: Is your wirless card supported?
[21:28] <piglet12> should be
[21:28] <root__> Anyone?
[21:28] <MichealH> piglet12: Drivers?
[21:29] <piglet12> according to the wiki it should work out of the box
[21:29] <guntbert> root__: advice on a different matter: don't do irc as root, don't do *any* regular work as root
[21:29] <MichealH> Hmmmm....
[21:29] <root__> guntbert: I am not. I am in recovery console.
[21:29] <piglet12> i read something about changing the drivers from broadcom to sti or something like that
[21:29] <piglet12> how do i do that
[21:29] <MichealH> Does it see the card?
[21:30] <guntbert> root__: ah, that explains it - sorry to bother you
[21:30] <Loshki> julianoliver: ah, right. How about setting VERBOSE to 1 and adding some extra echo lines to see what the fsck status is, or if it's even getting that far in the script? By now, you must be considering just doing a reinstall!
[21:30] <julianoliver> Loshki: i'm on my third now..
[21:30] <piglet12> MichealH where should it be shown?
[21:30] <root__> Anyone? I can't start my computer up.
[21:30] <MichealH> Maybe try ifconfig
[21:30] <slgma> is there anyone who knows a way to play justin.tv or any other flash player streams without a web browser
[21:30] <julianoliver> ikonia: Loshki: with Ubuntu, is there any difference installing at boot or from the desktop (using 'ubiquity' or whatever), from the filesystem perspective?
[21:31] <slgma> youtube has minitube but i cant seem to find anything for justin.tv
[21:31] <Loshki> julianoliver: the problem recurs after a reinstall? Even before you add the customisations?
[21:31] <MichealH> piglet12: See my last message. Sorry forgot to tag :(
[21:31] <julianoliver> Loshki: i'm installing from a Live CD i've made.
[21:31] <ikonia> julianoliver: not that I can think of
[21:31] <julianoliver> ok
[21:31] <piglet12> MichealH where do i c ifconfig? im kinda new with this:P
[21:31] <root__> Could someone please help me start my computer up?
[21:32] <MichealH> Terminal: Applications > Accesories > Terminal and then pastebin the results :)
[21:32] <thune3> cryptide: pm ok?
[21:32] <MichealH> I will be away
[21:32] <piglet12> MichealH i typed it in a terminal and it only shows eth0
[21:32] <Loshki> julianoliver: I agree with ikonia. No differences I can think of...
[21:32] <piglet12> MichealH and local loopbackthingie
[21:32] <MichealH> piglet12: Hmmmm. are you connected to etehrnet
[21:32] <piglet12> MichealH yes
[21:32] <MichealH> Ok hmmmm...
[21:33] <piglet12> MichealH how do i change the drivers?
[21:33] <MichealH> Have you got the wifi light on (I do that sometimes)
[21:33] <piglet12> MichealH yes its blue
[21:33] <root__> Xorg freezes a split second after it starts. Please help.
[21:33] <MichealH> Hmmm......
[21:33] <Loshki> julianoliver: any idea what happens if you install a completely standard 9.04 then add your customisations by hand? If that works, would you consider a two cd installation process?
[21:34] <MichealH> Im going to have to think this through...
[21:34] <piglet12> MichealH take ur time : )
[21:34] <MichealH> piglet12: I am in a etting so I will try to :)
[21:34] <MichealH> *meeting
[21:34] <julianoliver> Loshki: yes, i simply don't have time. i have just 12 hours left and much more to do before i travel.
[21:34] <jm_> anyone able to help with ndiswrapper invalid device errors
[21:35] <Loshki> julianoliver: I understand. That's why a 2 step install might be the better form of valor...
[21:35] <julianoliver> Loshki: but you're right. if i had time i'd install and customise by hand all over again, quite an aesthetic overall, among software compilation-fu!
[21:36] <Raptors> Man I still cant find libjs
[21:36] <Raptors> This is pissing me off
[21:36] <Raptors> I installed like every libjs package in the repo and it still says missing
[21:37] <Loshki> julianoliver: sorry not to be more help. Truth is, the ubuntu boot-time stuff is kind of a mess...
[21:37] <julianoliver> Loshki: right. i'm a long time Debian user but feel somewhat lost in this case!
[21:37] <guntbert> I have somehow disabled my <del> key within gnome (in virtual console it is fine), xev shows the pressed key but in an unexpected way no KeypressEvent/KeyreleaseEvent http://paste.ubuntu.com/459975/  -- any ideas where to look?
[21:38] <samuels_> hello
[21:38] <samuels_> i would like to know what ports are listening on my pc please, as i think someone is running an ircd without my permission
[21:38] <Belgarath> hi anybody knows what to do in lucid to allow remote connections to mysql ?
[21:39] <Loshki> julianoliver: best I can think of right now is to add some echo statements to checkroot.sh and see if that makes a penny drop...
[21:39] <julianoliver> samuels_: sudo netstat -tupa
[21:39] <kangu> sean-laptop, thanks it's very appreciated!
[21:39] <flodine> anyone here still running 9.10?
[21:39] <Belgarath> flodine: I do
[21:39] <julianoliver> Loshki: indeed. it's just that dmesg's scrollback is cut due to no 'w'.
[21:39] <iceroot> !anyone | flodine
[21:39] <gregl> guntbert, Take a look at system  preferences keyboard shortcuts and see if you somehow deleted the short cut..
[21:40] <Loshki> julianoliver: hmm, if you can get it to boot verbosely, you should be able to see the output in real time during boot...
[21:40] <julianoliver> Loshki: this machine is absurdly fast.. no chance sadly!
[21:40] <guntbert> gregl: <del> is no shortcut - or is it?
[21:40] <piglet12> MichealH i think i solved it by myself
[21:41] <Loshki> julianoliver: so what's your next move?
[21:41] <mar> hi there, would someone lend me a nasty piece of software to get rid of a flatmate's comp?
[21:41] <gregl> guntbert, I think all keyboard assignments are short cuts..Like vol up down etc..
[21:41] <private_meta> You know your connection speed is slow if you do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" and update takes so long sudo asks for your password for upgrade again
[21:41] <root__> Does anyone know how to solve problems?
[21:42] <julianoliver> Loshki: i'm thinking about using traditional addressing in place of UUID and then when that most probably acheives nothing, just going for a manual install and customisation from scratch, ie staying up all night.
[21:42] <Raptors> WHERE Is LIBJS:?
[21:42] <slidinghorn> !illegal | mar
[21:42] <Raptors> This is really pissing me off.
[21:42] <guntbert> gregl: I don't see it there (<ins>, <backspace> ... neither)
[21:42] <atperez> Greetings
[21:42] <thioune> hi, is there someone who can tell m how switch a document.org in a document.doc, sorry im a newcomer
[21:42] <Loshki> julianoliver: bummer...
[21:43] <guntbert> !caps | Raptors
[21:43] <gregl> guntbert, Yeah, I was just looking also..Sorry,it was a shot in the dark..
[21:43] <julianoliver> Loshki: yes, indeedy.
[21:43] <guntbert> gregl: thx for trying :-)
[21:43] <root__> My computer won't start up. Help?
[21:43] <gregl> guntbert, np
[21:43] <Loshki> mar: just talk to your roommate and try for a diplomatic solution...
[21:43] <samuels_> this program crond is listening when i did sudo netstat -tupa, i would like to know what ports is this program listening on
[21:43] <samuels_> how do i do that please
[21:43] <slidinghorn> root__, please ask your question (*in detail*, on one line, and wait for an answer.  for multiple lines, please us http://paste.ubuntu.com.  If you don't get an answer right away, you can check out http://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org
[21:43] <julianoliver> Raptors: sudo dpkg -L libjs
[21:44] <root__> slidinghorn: When I do that people don't answer.
[21:44] <guntbert> Raptors: try aptitude search libjs -- tells you a bunch of packages
[21:44] <flodine> is there a way i can load ati drivers for my laptop on 10.04
[21:44] <root__> And I need an answer.
[21:44] <mar> Loshki: yeah, right, thanks for the diplomatic advice ^^u
[21:44] <Raptors> I think I found it.
[21:44] <Raptors> Stupid ubuntu and horrible naming
[21:44] <Raptors> its libmozjs-dev
[21:44] <slidinghorn> root__, well it's a channel of volunteers, and sometimes answers aren't available right away.  Try to be patient :)  in the meantime, you need to give more detail than "my computer won't start"
[21:45] <julianoliver> Raptors: for what it's worth, it's no differe
[21:45] <root__> slidinghorn: I've been giving this information over and over.
[21:45] <aeon-ltd> root__: uhh more detail?
[21:45] <root__> Sure thing!
[21:45] <julianoliver> Raptors: for what it's worth, it's no different on other OS's.
[21:45] <MichealH> piglet12: So... Your wireless...
[21:45] <root__> When Xorg starts, I can move my mouse for a split second; then nothing responds.
[21:45] <atperez> I've just downloaded kubuntu 10.04 to try the live-cd, but when pressing F4 to list boot modes, I can only see "Normal", "Use driver update disc" and "OEM install (for manufacturers)". I don't see the option to start in safe graphic mode. Is this option somewhere else?
[21:45] <piglet12> MichealH its np now im so awesome that it just worked from rebooting it 3 times in a row
[21:45] <slidinghorn> root__, have you checked for relevant entries in dmesg?
[21:46] <MichealH> piglet12: \o/
[21:46] <root__> slidinghorn: I can't because my computer won't do anything afterwards and dmesg is cleared on reboot.
[21:46] <aeon-ltd> root__: so X dies after spawn immediatly
[21:46] <root__> Does not die.
[21:46] <root__> Freezes.
[21:46] <samuels_> could some one please tell me how do i find out what ports is this proces *crond* listening on
[21:46] <slidinghorn> root__, what about in recovery mode?
[21:46] <root__> slidinghorn: That's what I'm in right now.
[21:47] <root__> slidinghorn: But I do netroot.
[21:47] <aeon-ltd> root__: have you tried purging all configs and starting again?
[21:47] <root__> aeon-ltd: What, now?
[21:47] <root__> aeon-ltd, slidinghorn: Give pause; I'll conjure my laptop.
[21:47] <aeon-ltd> root__: basically a full uninstall, clean install of xorg and all its depenedancies
[21:48] <CppIsWeird> i just tried installing ubuntu-xen-server and it says it cant be installed because one of its dependencies cannot be found, xen-tools.
[21:49] <HydroUK> Slart, FYI i found out what it was, it was my RTL8187B, not a good card at all
[21:49] <MindVirus> aeon-ltd, slidinghorn: Hello.
[21:49] <Slart> HydroUK: ah.. good catch
[21:49] <HydroUK> i found in windows it doesnt go full rate either
[21:49] <aeon-ltd> CppIsWeird: did you remove xen-tools earlier?
[21:49] <venik> how do I edit teh PLACES menu in Gnome?
[21:49] <aeon-ltd> MindVirus: uhh, hi?
[21:49]  * HydroUK gone back to cat5!
[21:49] <venik> I want to delete an item from it, but it refuses to do it
[21:49] <MindVirus> aeon-ltd: This is me on my laptop, obviously.
[21:49] <slidinghorn> MindVirus, , what version of ubuntu is the machine running?  is this a recent install?
[21:49] <HydroUK> thought i would report back so ya know ;P
[21:49] <aeon-ltd> MindVirus: oh hi root__
[21:50] <MindVirus> slidinghorn: 10.04. Definitely not recent; it's been upgraded since like 7.04.
[21:50] <MindVirus> slidinghorn: Furthermore, it has worked on 10.04 for a while.
[21:50] <MindVirus> Any suggestions?
[21:50] <slidinghorn> MindVirus, do you remember the last thing you did before the behavior started?
[21:50] <vodll> hi...does anyone here know to program in POSIX C? Have a school project and i'm really stuck on a hitch....just want to create a c.file that creates a father and son process, and the father signals the son every 5 sec and the son answers back...would really appreciate a code snippet..:D
[21:50] <MindVirus> No.
[21:50] <aeon-ltd> MindVirus: what the hardware spec like?
[21:51] <MindVirus> aeon-ltd: Memory? CPU?
[21:51] <MindVirus> 2GB TCCD chips, Opteron 165 1.8GHz.
[21:51] <Loshki> samuels_: you could try: sudo lsof -i4tcp -p <pid of crond>
[21:51] <samuels_> Loshki: i shall try thank you
[21:52] <aeon-ltd> MindVirus: so relatively modern machine
[21:52] <MindVirus> Yes.
[21:53] <aeon-ltd> MindVirus: when x freezes can you can back to a vt or does the keyboard and mouse freeze up aswell?
[21:53] <aeon-ltd> *can you go
[21:53] <MindVirus> aeon-ltd: Mouse freezes up; will try VT.
[21:53] <zeal__> hi, what sections in control file for launchpad ppa?
[21:53] <munis> hi everybody
[21:54] <guntbert> zeal__: I didn't understand your question
[21:54] <MindVirus> aeon-ltd: Most likely won't work.
[21:55] <aeon-ltd> MindVirus: why not? ctrl-alt-f1 does nothing?
[21:55] <zeal__> i want upload my project in launchpad ppa
[21:55] <MindVirus> aeon-ltd: Nope.
[21:55] <MindVirus> Nothing.
[21:55] <MindVirus> I hear my speakers make a noise before shit crashes.
[21:55] <zeal__> in debian/control "Section: main"
[21:55] <slidinghorn> aha!
[21:55] <Loshki> vodll: try ##c
[21:56] <h00k> !language | MindVirus
[21:57] <guntbert> zeal__: did you see https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA ?
[21:57] <slidinghorn> MindVirus, do you use pulse for your audio?
[21:57] <MindVirus> slidinghorn: Sadly.
[21:57] <zeal__> yes
[21:57]  * samuels_ thanks for help guys.
[21:57] <aeon-ltd> MindVirus: does this machine have any data you want, cos this feels like a need for a 10.04 reinstall
[21:58] <MindVirus> aeon-ltd: Forget it.
[21:58] <zeal__> but i can't find anything about sections
[21:58] <aeon-ltd> MindVirus: miracle, problem solved?
[21:58] <MindVirus> aeon-ltd: Some certain fixable thing is wrong.
[21:58] <MindVirus> aeon-ltd: No.
[21:58] <Zuruzuru> So I'm trying to install ubuntu on an older laptop, and after I start the install (or the live cd too) it'll display the ubuntu screen then a black screen that seems to indicate it's loading something.
[21:58] <Zuruzuru> is that normal?
[21:58] <guntbert> zeal__: cannot help - sorry
[21:58] <MindVirus> Just not reinstalling.
[21:58] <slidinghorn> MindVirus, I'm looking for a way to have you remove the pulseaudio daemon from startup -- please hold ;)
[21:59] <MindVirus> slidinghorn: I can just uninstall it.
[21:59] <aeon-ltd> Zuruzuru: how old?
[21:59] <MindVirus> slidinghorn: That's the only way AFAIK.
[21:59] <Zuruzuru> aeon-ltd, 5 years maybe?
[22:00] <aeon-ltd> Zuruzuru: spec?
[22:00] <MindVirus> Oh, from startup.
[22:00] <Dulak> hahah
[22:00] <Zuruzuru> aeon-ltd, http://archive.laptopmag.com/Review/HP-Pavilion-ze4900.htm?Page=0
[22:00] <Zuruzuru> I'm installiing the 32 bit, and I've tried both a cd and a usb installer
[22:01] <slidinghorn> MindVirus, try this (removes pulse & replaces it with ESD) -- may or may not solve the issue, but it's a starting point...you may not want to install ESD right away just to see if pulse was the issue in the 1st place: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-all-pulseaudio-related-issues.html
[22:01] <alteregoa> darmok and jalad at tanagra
[22:01] <MindVirus> slidinghorn: Really don't want to use ESD.
[22:01] <MindVirus> Rather use ALSA.
[22:01] <Dulak> I have a logitech usb headset with a volume control on it.  When I use it, I see the volume slider popup and move up or down, but it has no effect on the volume coming through the headset.
[22:01] <slidinghorn> MindVirus, also a possibility
[22:02] <mirko> yes weekend
[22:04] <MindVirus> slidinghorn: Basically just uninstalled pulseaudio.
[22:04] <bazhang> !ot > alteregoa
[22:04] <slidinghorn> MindVirus, crossing my fingers for you, lol
[22:04] <MindVirus> Keep 'em twisted.
[22:05] <MindVirus> Yeah, that solved the problem.
[22:05] <MindVirus> Pulseaudio sucks.
[22:05] <MindVirus> I bet it's got something to do with configuration.
[22:05] <MindVirus> Pulse has been acting up anyways.
[22:05] <slidinghorn> MindVirus, Great!  well take a look at some different audio applications and find one that works for you...I think ubottu has a factoid for that...hold on
[22:05] <MindVirus> What a piece of crap.
[22:05] <slidinghorn> !audio > MindVirus
[22:06] <MindVirus> slidinghorn: I can figure that on my own.
[22:06] <heathen> Got a brand new 10.04 system. One question: How do I set a root password?
[22:06] <MindVirus> But thanks for helping restore my system!
[22:06] <guntbert> !root | heathen
[22:06] <zeal__> guntbert:  Section: misc
[22:06] <MindVirus> heathen: Not a good idea.
[22:06] <zeal__> guntbert: work with it
[22:07] <slidinghorn> MindVirus, glad I could help :)
[22:07] <heathen> But I can't do anything. It keeps asking to "Authenticate" How do I do that?
[22:07] <madrid> Hi, I can not change the password in jaunty.. i need the console parameters...
[22:07] <guntbert> zeal__: I don't need any software right now :-)
[22:07] <guntbert> !sudo | heathen
[22:08] <julianoliver> ikonia: Loshki: i think i confused myself earlier - i can only resume a boot if i choose fsck from from the ncurses menu of the recovery UI. if i fsck -y -f /dev/sda1 i cannot resume a normal boot, the fs is still ro. is this perhaps a clue?
[22:08] <lyrae> something beyond strange is happening.... i keep deleting a folder, 'blue' from the .trash-1000 folder, and it deletes, and comes back as blue.2
[22:08] <heathen> kthx
[22:08] <lyrae> then if i try again, blue 2.2
[22:08] <lyrae> and etc
[22:08] <ikonia> julianoliver: what happens if you do fsck -n /dev/sda1 then try to boot
[22:08] <guntbert> heathen: did you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo ?
[22:08] <ikonia> julianoliver: that will provide us with a good clue
[22:08] <heathen> not yet, goin in...
[22:08] <julianoliver> ikonia: ok, i'll try this next.
[22:08] <aeon-ltd> Zuruzuru: sorry it took so long to reply, no it shouldn't happen on a machine like this, what are you usingg to install?
[22:09] <madrid> I can not change the password in jaunty..
[22:09] <Zuruzuru> aeon-ltd, I've tried both ubuntu and xubuntu, I can't get past this black screen though. I'm hoping it's not a hardware problem, but it's starting to look like it
[22:10] <julianoliver> ikonia: it just says /dev/sda1: clean, (etc)
[22:10] <julianoliver> ikonia: now attempting a resumed boot.
[22:10] <julianoliver> ikonia: still ro
[22:10] <ikonia> julianoliver: thats good news
[22:10] <ikonia> julianoliver: the problem is %100 the disk is being marked as dirty
[22:10] <julianoliver> ikonia: ahah..
[22:10]  * heathen can't scroll back on this thing :(
[22:10] <aeon-ltd> Zuruzuru: are these freshly burnt cds on new cds?
[22:11] <ikonia> julianoliver: something is corrupting the disk's file system integrity
[22:11] <Loshki> julianoliver: Well, the script has to check the status of fsck since it can only allow write access if the fsck says the filesystem is ok, so that's why I presume only the ncurses option works. What I don't understand is why the filesystem doesn't seem to stay clean if you've booted successfully once...
[22:11] <ikonia> julianoliver: any clues based on what your system does ?#
[22:11] <Zuruzuru> aeon-ltd, brand new ones. ANd I've tried using a usb key too
[22:11] <julianoliver> ikonia: interesting. what are my options?
[22:11] <slidinghorn> heathen, do you need the links again?
[22:11] <aeon-ltd> Zuruzuru: then its definitely hardware related
[22:11] <julianoliver> ikonia: i can't see any. i have no scrollback as dmesg is truncated.
[22:11] <Zuruzuru> aeon-ltd, That's what I thought, thanks for the help.
[22:12] <aeon-ltd> Zuruzuru: what part if the install happens before the black screen
[22:12] <julianoliver> Loshki: yes, i don't know why it doesn't stay clean either..
[22:12] <aeon-ltd> *if-->of
[22:12] <slidinghorn> julianoliver, try dmesg | less
[22:12] <spotter> dz
[22:12] <ikonia> julianoliver: I'm wondering if here is an application doing it, if the box is not shutting down properly (power off before clean up on the disk)
[22:12] <Zuruzuru> aeon-ltd, I get the ubuntu screen after I click "Install on harddrive" and then it goes black after that.
[22:12] <ikonia> julianoliver: have a look at the parameters set with tune2fs
[22:12] <julianoliver> ikonia: ok, interesting..
[22:13] <julianoliver> slidinghorn: of course, dmesg stdout is in RAM.. cheers
[22:13] <mcl0vin> hi guys , i am having an issue. am running 9.10 on an HP mini 10" when i login to my work terminal server(Windows) the screen is cut in half were i don't see the " start" button please help me
[22:13] <chalcedny> if i walk away from my newly installed ubuntu 10.04 computer, it needs a password to let me back in .. how can i make that interval longer or not have it do that?
[22:13] <Zuruzuru> aeon-ltd, to be more specific it's the ubuntu splash screen
[22:13] <aeon-ltd> Zuruzuru: whats currently on the hdd?
[22:13] <madrid> i need the parameters to change the password in jaunty
[22:13] <Loshki> julianoliver: bad disk hardware? Corrupted boot script? Hard to see what else might do it....
[22:13] <Zuruzuru> aeon-ltd, windows xp
[22:13] <aeon-ltd> Zuruzuru: so you never erach the live enviro?
[22:14] <Zuruzuru> aeon-ltd, nope.
[22:14] <aeon-ltd> Zuruzuru: does xp boot fine?
[22:14] <mcl0vin> hi guys , i am having an issue. am running 9.10 on an HP mini 10" when i login to my work terminal server(Windows) the screen is cut in half were i don't see the " start" button please help me
[22:14] <Zuruzuru> aeon-ltd, yeah, boots fine.
[22:14] <aeon-ltd> Zuruzuru: any problems in xp?
[22:15] <Zuruzuru> aeon-ltd, none.
[22:15] <Agu10> when I try to connect to a WIFI network, it stays in the "connecting" state, and I can't access the internet. However, creating ad-hoc wifi networks works just fine.
[22:15] <Agu10> any ideas?
[22:15] <thune3> chalcedny: check power-management and screensaver preferences in system->prefs
[22:16] <aeon-ltd> Zuruzuru: damn, not sure if its worthwhile but ubuntu loads part of itself onto the ram when going live, a memory test might be able to tell you more but since there are no problems in xp it sounds unlikely
[22:16] <Zuruzuru> aeon-ltd, takes, I'll run a memory test then
[22:16] <chalcedny> thune3 thanks :)
[22:17] <aeon-ltd> Zuruzuru: hope it helps, gtg i'll be bach
[22:17] <julianoliver> ikonia: i will try a full fsck using the recovery UI then a proper shutdown, poweroff and reboot.
[22:18] <julianoliver> s/reboot/boot/
[22:18] <tim_> I was using smuxi perfectly until I changed the preferences and now I can't open the program. It keeps crashing. I tried reinstalling with no luck. Any suggestions?
[22:19] <Loshki> julianoliver: worth a try. Also, if the live cd has smartctl, take a quick look at the disk health...
[22:19] <ikonia> nice idea
[22:19] <loldog> anyone know how to get rt3070 chipset to do injection (usb wlan stick)?
[22:19] <julianoliver> Loshki: yes, good idea.
[22:19] <ikonia> if the disk is failing it could be messing up the file system
[22:19] <julianoliver> Loshki: it was burnt at a whopping 9x
[22:19] <Loshki> julianoliver: the hard disk health :-)
[22:20] <julianoliver> ikonia: ahh right. i thought you meant fs corruption carried over from a poor live CD somehow.
[22:20] <julianoliver> ikonia: oops, intended for Loshki
[22:21] <tim_> I was using smuxi perfectly until I changed the preferences and now I can't open the program. It keeps crashing. I tried reinstalling with no luck. Any suggestions?
[22:21] <julianoliver> Loshki: right. it's a brand new 250Gb SeaGate. i will check it regardless.
[22:22] <Loshki> julianoliver: a bad live CD burn *is* a possibility, but it usually doesn't have such subtle effects. Most often, a bad burn results in a non-bootable CD. A bad brand new hard drive is also not unheard of, and we are scraping the barrel a bit now...
[22:22] <julianoliver> Loshki: hehe indeed.
[22:22] <ikonia> Loshki: I've seen file systems get corrupted on hard disk spin up due to dodgy voltage
[22:23] <julianoliver> interesting..
[22:23] <ikonia> the possabilities are pretty open
[22:23] <Loshki> julianoliver: ikonia: sometimes, I'm amazed that *anything* works....
[22:25] <tim_> I was using smuxi perfectly until I changed the preferences and now I can't open the program. It keeps crashing. I tried reinstalling with no luck. Any suggestions?
[22:25] <slidinghorn> tim_, when you uninstalled, did you purge the config files?   sudo apt-get remove --purge appname
[22:26] <itexus> Hi, im trying to install ubuntu server mounted on a USB memstick. But it keeps insisting that its something wrong with the "CD" and cant copy files :/
[22:26] <itexus> I dont even have a optical drive installed in that computer.
[22:27] <tim_> slidinghorn, yes. Then, I reinstall and it doesn't launch.
[22:27] <itexus> I have installed ubuntu server on the memorystick using the USB installer from pendrive linux
[22:27] <guest12158> Hi
[22:27] <itexus> Anyone knows whats the deal with it? :/
[22:27] <slidinghorn> tim_, have you launched it from command line (I personally don't know what smuxi is, so if that's the only way to launch, forgive me)?  what error messages are you given (use http://paste.ubuntu.com for multiple lines)
[22:28] <slidinghorn> itexus, have you verified the md5?
[22:28] <itexus> slidinghorn, no :/
[22:28] <ali____>  /msg nickserv 1geeky<axnpqz4768>
[22:28] <tim_> slidinghorn, http://paste.ubuntu.com/459989/
[22:28] <slidinghorn> !md5 | itexus see if this helps
[22:29] <itexus> Ok thanks
[22:29] <ali____>  /msg nickserv 1geeky <axnpqz>
[22:29] <guntbert> ali____: change your password immediately
[22:30] <guest12158> Hi im trying to install 10.04
[22:30] <guntbert> ali____: and use that command only in a private session with nickserv
[22:30] <guest12158> it runs normally but when it reboots, i get some errors D:
[22:30] <v1ad> yes
[22:30] <v1ad> or some idiot will change your password
[22:30] <guest12158> like I/O errors
[22:31] <v1ad> and dont use <>
[22:31] <Lxndr> Every time I double-click a txt file, it tells me it is executable, and gives me options to either display it or execute it. How do I configure ubuntu to let me directly open txt files from a double-click?
[22:32] <tim_> Lxndr, in the file browser, go to View>Preferences and change the "Executable Text Files" option under "Behavior"
[22:32] <guest12158> can anyone help me?D:
[22:33] <guntbert> !pm | ali____
[22:34] <Lxndr> tim: thanks, but I found it it edit>preferences. there's no 'preferences' under view.
[22:34] <xibalba_> anyone have a copy of the nProbe source?
[22:34] <xibalba_> im trying to compile it and test it for freebsd
[22:34] <tim_> Lxndr, Whoops. Sorry about that. I'm glad you found it!
[22:34] <tim_> slidinghorn, Any luck?
[22:34] <CppIsWeird> i just tried installing ubuntu-xen-server and it says it cant be installed because one of its dependencies cannot be found, xen-tools.
[22:34] <guntbert> ali____: just type /join #freenode
[22:35] <itexus> ubottu. the checksums are identical
[22:35] <borwar> I used the mini.iso to install Ubuntu, and during the setup it asked me what additional software I wanted to install. So now I dont have desktop. Do I need to redo the isntall, or can I do something form CLI?
[22:35] <slidinghorn> tim_, haven't found anything yet....still looking
[22:35] <borwar> I mean, I skipped additional software
[22:35] <ali____> ok
[22:35] <itexus> ubottu. the checksums are identical (for the ISO file). I have also scanned the USB memstick for invalid clusters and stuff but it says its ok. i have also tried reformat and reinstalled it on the memstick with the same results.
[22:35] <CppIsWeird> if i install xen-tools from source will the ubuntu-xen-server package see this and install?
[22:35] <itexus> gah
[22:36] <guest12158> Im having some trouble trying to install, anyone can help me?
[22:36] <ali____> thanks gunbert
[22:36] <slidinghorn> !ask | guest12158
[22:36] <guntbert> ali____: have fun :-)
[22:36] <ali____> how could I reply you in public ?
[22:36] <tim_> slidinghorn, Thanks. Maybe there is a problem with the build. I'm thinking since it's giving "Smuxi.Frontend.Gnome" that's a problem with the actual code, not the config.
[22:36] <itexus> slidinghorn, the checksums are identical (for the ISO file). I have also scanned the USB memstick for invalid clusters and stuff but it says its ok. i have also tried reformat and reinstalled it on the memstick with the same results.
[22:37] <guntbert> ali____: everything you type here is seen by everyone in this channel
[22:37] <slidinghorn> borwar, depending on what DE you want to run (Gnome/KDE/XFCE) just run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop (or kubuntu-desktop or xubunt-desktop)
[22:37] <borwar> slidinghorn: And after that, just reboot?
[22:37] <slidinghorn> borwar, yep :)
[22:37] <xibalba_> anyone using nProbe ?
[22:38] <itexus> slidinghorn, please help :)
[22:38] <guest12158> Im installing 10.04 from a CD, first of all i get a small error saying the installation program encountered an error and will initiate a desktop session, in which i am currently, then I install it from here, everything goes normal but when it goes to reboot and ejects the CD, i get a screen full of I/O Errors, anyone know what is going on?
[22:38] <slidinghorn> itexus, hmm...not sure what's causing the issue :-\  I'm going to send you one more factoid about USB installs and if that's not helpful, I don't know where else to point you...
[22:38] <ali____> ok i knew that but my mean is my message appears like you in different color and your name be at the beginning of it
[22:38] <slidinghorn> !usb | itexus
[22:39] <tim_> slidinghorn, Thanks for your help man. I'm thinking that it's a problem with the actual build. Nothing we can do. Thanks again!
[22:39] <BiggFREE> Hi
[22:39] <julianoliver> Loshki: ikonia the disk passed the smartctl test, so i'm assuming it's just in init or the tendrilous boot scripts themselves. i will take a stock 9.04 and start again i think. thanks for your help!
[22:39] <CppIsWeird> if i install xen-tools from source will the ubuntu-xen-server package see this and install?
[22:39] <slidinghorn> tim_ if you'd like i can try to take a look at the config file...you can pastebin it, just make sure that you take your passwords out of it before posting
[22:40] <itexus> slidinghorn, ok thanks. i think i already read those pages. But to me the problem with the installation it seems like ubuntu server is designed to only be installed with CD, atleast in my version (10.4). Also it fails to detect any disks.
[22:40] <xibalba_> man this channel fills up with too much info
[22:40] <slidinghorn> itexus, is your bios set to boot from USB?
[22:40] <tim_> slidinghorn, I can't even find the config file. It's not in my home or in /usr/share. I can't even find anything in gconf-editor
[22:40] <xibalba_> tim do a find / for it
[22:40] <itexus> slidinghorn, ofcourse i am in the setup ^^ there is no OS on the machine
[22:40] <slidinghorn> tim_, what about in ~/.config/smuxi/smuxi-engine.ini
[22:41] <Perun_> hi
[22:41] <xibalba_> oh wow
[22:41] <xibalba_> we got an ipv6 guy
[22:41] <Perun_> deos someone know a repository with teamspeak3 pkgs?
[22:41] <itexus> slidinghorn, the setup loads fine, its after i have configured my language and such it fails to copy files.
[22:41] <Loshki> julianoliver: best of luck...
[22:41] <xibalba_> Perun_ : where you from ?
[22:41] <Perun_> germany
[22:41] <tim_> slidinghorn, Aha. Let me get that for you.
[22:41] <bazhang> !ot | xibalba_
[22:41] <slidinghorn> tim_, remember to remove your password(s)
[22:42] <xibalba_> thanks
[22:42] <MindVirus> Hi. If pulseaudio is installed, when GDM starts up, my computer freezes and I can't go to a VT. If pulseaudio is uninstalled, everything works properly except sound.
[22:44] <itexus> slidinghorn, one more question. The iso file says amd64, but my cpu is intel64. Can it work anyway?
[22:44] <tim_> slidinghorn, http://paste.ubuntu.com/459995/ thanks so much.
[22:44] <slidinghorn> itexus, the 64-bit should work with just about any 64-bit arch
[22:44] <blain> not true
[22:44] <itexus> Ok, as i thought. thanks.
[22:44] <blain> i doubt it will work with IA64
[22:44] <slidinghorn> tim_, no guarantees, as I have no experience with that program, but I'll try :)
[22:44] <Daekdroom> blain, I thought it would.
[22:45] <Daekdroom> blain, except for ia32libs.
[22:45] <tim_> slidinghorn, thanks. If we can't make progress, can I just delete that .ini file?
[22:45] <blain> IA64 is not x86_64
[22:45] <Daekdroom> blain, so x86_64 hardware can't run IA64 at all?
[22:46] <blain> no
[22:46] <guest12158> Hi, Im installing 10.04 from a CD, first of all i get a small error saying the installation program encountered an error and will initiate a desktop session, in which i am currently, then I install it from here, everything goes normal but when it goes to reboot and ejects the CD, i get a screen full of I/O Errors, anyone know where to start?
[22:46] <blain> it's a completely different CPU
[22:46] <`boz> hi all I have downloaded and installed apiece of software through ubuntu softftware centre and i can't see it on the application list anyone know how to find it to run?
[22:46] <blain> guest12158 is your cd ok?
[22:46] <narcislinu> A
[22:46] <Slart> `boz: which app did you download?
[22:46] <guest12158> yes
[22:46] <`boz> slart qcad
[22:47] <Slart> `boz: try opening a terminal and typing qc <TAB>  see if it autocompletes it for you?
[22:47] <guest12158> blain: yes
[22:47] <`boz> cheers
[22:47] <dataHeist> Is it possible to mount a USB drive as non-root user under 9.10?
[22:48] <blain> guest12158 how did you customize your mount point layout?
[22:48] <`boz> no go slart
[22:48] <Slart> `boz: I think QCad should end up in one of the menus.. at least it did the last time I installed it.. perhaps it will show up after a reboot.. sometimes whatever the thing responsible for updating the menu doesn't quite work right away
[22:48] <Slart> `boz: hmm.. it installed alright? no errors?
[22:48] <`boz> looks ok
[22:48] <guest12158> blain: uh not sure, im just getting started on Ubuntu.
[22:48] <`boz> i installed twice
[22:48] <`boz> and rebooted
[22:49] <`boz> reports as being installed
[22:49] <vlt> guest12158: There's a "check cd for errors" in the very first menu when you boot it
[22:49] <slidinghorn> tim_, sorry, couldn't find anything that was out of place :-\
[22:49] <Slart> `boz: let me try installing it on my system.. see if it works here
[22:49] <guest12158> vit: yes i tried that, said CD is ok
[22:49] <`boz> thanks... using ubuntu 10.04 btw
[22:49] <tim_> slidinghorn, AHA! I deleted it and restarted the program and it's fixed.
[22:49] <tim_> slidinghorn, Thanks for your help!
[22:50] <Slart> `boz: hmm.. no menu item for me neither.. but typing "qcad" in the terminal worked
[22:50] <destroit> ubuntu español
[22:50] <slidinghorn> !es
[22:50] <bazhang> !es
[22:50] <`boz> i'll try that
[22:50] <bazhang> destroit, /join #ubuntu-es
[22:51] <slidinghorn> tim_, glad you got it working...sorry I couldn't be of more assistance though :)
[22:51] <`boz> worked here too
[22:51] <`boz> thanks slart
[22:51] <Traveler2> hey guys i need help connecting to the wireless internet with ubuntu
[22:51] <Slart> `boz: you're welcome
[22:51] <`boz> back to it.. by all
[22:52] <tim_> slidinghorn, But you helped a lot! I wouldn't have found that config file without you!
[22:52] <mark__> hi to all new to this o/s
[22:54] <bladescape> I am running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS x64 Edition, which I just installed last night on my Gateway M-7351U laptop. The machine is running on an Intel Core 2 Duo T4200 processor with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500 (Mobile Intel GM45 Express Chipset Family) graphics card. I am using Orca magnification software. But my graphics are horrible. I read online that there may be some settings in xorg.conf that can be changed to resolve this but I 
[22:54] <h00k> mark__: Some things that might help you would be the manual, and you can /join #ubuntu-beginners
[22:54] <h00k> !manual | mark__
[22:54] <mark__> help on windows dvdflick wat do news on this?
[22:55] <wrinkliez> does anyone know of a good way to make a ruby script an executable?
[22:56] <slidinghorn> wrinkliez, don't know if it would work for a ruby script but works for other things:  chmod +x scriptfile
[22:57] <mark__> thanks
[22:57] <Slart> bladescape: you got cut off after "resolve this but I"
[22:57] <Puffcio> hi, doesnt anyone can help me with my ubuntu question?! :D
[22:58] <slidinghorn> !ask | Puffcio
[22:58] <blain> what was the question?
[22:58] <wrinkliez> no thats making the .rb executable.  like for example, there are programs that are .py's (programmed in python), but you would need to install the entire python programming language to install it.  thats why they create an executable.  i want to do THAT with ruby.
[22:58] <bladescape> I just discovered that my /etc/X11/xorg.conf is blank. Is it supposed to be like that or if not how can I get it fixed?
[22:58] <Puffcio> ive installed ubuntu via wubi on windows 7 on partition "D"
[22:58] <Puffcio> i can see my windows partition
[22:58] <slidinghorn> bladescape, by default in 10.04 it is blank..you can edit it however you need to though
[22:59] <Puffcio> but not the partition "D"
[22:59] <sebsebseb> Puffcio: yeah Ubuntu won't boot?
[22:59] <Puffcio> where i has most of the stuff
[22:59] <delaman> Can I install Ubuntu 10.04 onto an SSD without problems?
[22:59] <mark__> i have got to hard drive on
[22:59] <vlt> bladescape: In recent Ubuntu versions this is on purpose
[22:59] <Puffcio> no no its running grat, i love it :D
[22:59] <vlt> bladescape: What exactly "looks horrible"?
[22:59] <bazhang> delaman, sure
[22:59] <trism> wrinkliez: perhaps http://www.erikveen.dds.nl/rubyscript2exe/ if you mean like py2exe which just embeds the interpreter in an executable and runs the script
[22:59] <slidinghorn> Puffcio, for future reference, try to keep questions/responses to one line (don't use the Enter key as punctuation)
[22:59] <sebsebseb> Puffcio: its  in the file system of wubi and then /hosts I think  to access Windows partition read only
[23:00] <L33tCh> hey... anyone here good with grub?
[23:00] <PaulM> is there a canonical PPA to grab python 2.7 from?
[23:00] <sebsebseb> Puffcio: also in the long run much better to use a partitoned install, plus  by doing so you can easilly access the data using the Live CD, can't do that with Wubi
[23:00] <bazhang> L33tCh, grub or grub2
[23:00] <dataHeist> L33tCh: I make a mean breakfast burrito :D
[23:00] <vlt> !anyone | L33tCh
[23:00] <delaman> bazhang: last time i tried my ssd went dead.  could have been that it was dead in the first place though im not 100% sure.
[23:00] <Puffcio> sebsebseb thank you
[23:00] <wrinkliez> trism:  thats what im looking for, yes, but rubyscript2exe is outdated and only works for windows nowadays
[23:00] <L33tCh> my brother had a wubi install of 10.04 that's causing probs so i guess grub2
[23:00] <sebsebseb> !dualboot | Puffcio
[23:01] <sebsebseb> Puffcio: and setting up a seperate /home before installing is useful :)
[23:01] <banished_> Hi, I've added ppa:brandonsnider/cdrtools to my package sources and did a dist-upgrade, yet I szill have wodim - what am I missing?
[23:01] <bladescape> The bottom task bar thing is not displaying in the Orca magnifier, on-screen windows are not displaying properly (broken, etc.). I don't know how else to describe it as I am visually impaired which is why I am using the magnifier. All I know is that it looks horribly wrong. I read online that there are some settings I can change in xorg.conf but as I said the file is blank.
[23:01] <MysteryX> Can I install a 64-bit Ubuntu inside a VMWare which runs on a 32-bit Ubuntu host?
[23:01] <PaulM> MysteryX: you should be able to
[23:01] <Puffcio> ive got no probs running on wubi its just ive tried to find those stuff, but now ive got it
[23:01] <itexus> slidinghorn, tried unetbootin, works! problem solved. thanks
[23:01] <slidinghorn> itexus, glad to hear it :)  no problem
[23:01] <PaulM> MysteryX: It won't necessarily be particularly efficient though
[23:01] <sebsebseb> Puffcio: right, but a proper partitioned install will run a bit better,  you may not notice it though
[23:02] <L33tCh> he apparently click sleep or something other than shutdown and after some message about swap not being large enough, grub loads to a grub prompt and not the grub menu... any ideas?
[23:02] <MysteryX> PaulM: Thanx
[23:02] <Puffcio> but i wantet first to try it for couple of days, during back up my data
[23:02] <sebsebseb> Puffcio: ok
[23:02] <sebsebseb> Puffcio: still got your ISO by the way?
[23:02] <Puffcio> then i will just completly get rid of windows 7
[23:02] <sebsebseb> Puffcio: ok that sounds good, but do you have WIndows apps that you want to run inside Ubuntu?
[23:03] <Puffcio> ive got the disk from ubuntu website and iso file on hard drive
[23:03] <blain> windows might come in handy even in a VM just in case
[23:03] <lordquackstar> How can I get to the grub menu in the Lucid Live CD? For me it immediatly boots without showing the menu
[23:03] <sebsebseb> blain: indeed
[23:03] <Puffcio> no, im just internet browser
[23:03] <Puffcio> nothing particular as long as i can listen to mymusic
[23:03] <sebsebseb> Puffcio: is that it, no 3D Windows games or whatever, just want to use a web browser and play music?
[23:03] <slidinghorn> lordquackstar, hold shift during boot -- that should bring up the grub2 menu
[23:04] <Puffcio> yes,
[23:04] <lordquackstar> slidinghorn: Ok, thanks
[23:04] <sebsebseb> Puffcio: ok right yeah you don't need Windows then
[23:04] <bladescape> Oh - I also read online that all the graphics issues may be due to my graphics card/drivers but I haven't found a solution for that.
[23:05] <sebsebseb> Puffcio: Really I shoudn't need to type this, because the Ubuntu website should be making it clear to people, but no, that before using an ISO it is a good idea to check it :)   So before you burn contents of the ISO  to a CD and install Ubuntu from it properly, after removing Wubi.
[23:05] <sebsebseb> Puffcio: its a good tip.  and good practice
[23:06] <sebsebseb> !md5sum
[23:06] <blain> use a usb drive
[23:06] <sebsebseb> !hashes
[23:06] <blain> and save media
[23:06] <sebsebseb> blain: even if using the ISO with a USB drive, should check it first
[23:06] <blain> apps already do that
[23:06] <blain> and will download it for him
[23:06] <L33tCh> ok, problem in a nutshell... wubi 10.04 install runnign fine. then hibernate or something chosen instead of shutdown and now after choosing ubuntu form teh windows boot menu, we jsut get a grub prompt.. anyone know how I can fix that?
[23:06] <Puffcio> ive got proper ubuntu cd, ordered from their website, so i dont need to burn iso
[23:07] <sebsebseb> blain: if ISO is from HTTP/FTP nothing will check it for him,  if he downloaded from a torrent, he could check in the torrent program that everything was downloaded
[23:07] <sebsebseb> Puffcio: or right yeah, use that
[23:07] <vlt> bladescape: Seems quite old, but have you read this? http://live.gnome.org/Orca/Magnification
[23:07] <L33tCh> and can anyone tell me what the lates kernel version is? this is so i can try the commands manually in grub (well, latest yesterday if it's different to today)
[23:07] <user01> how do i make server download and install aptitude updates daily at 4am?
[23:08] <user01> user01, with cron?
[23:08] <blain> using cron
[23:08] <sebsebseb> L33tCh: Ubuntu won't be using the very latest kernel version, since you don't need it.  anyway uname -r  to find out what kernel you are running
[23:08] <blain> L33tCh kernel.org
[23:08] <vlt> bladescape: Though a GM45 card should be supported out of the box ... hmmm
[23:08] <Jordan_U> L33tCh: Just use "ls /boot/" to see what kernels you have.
[23:08] <slidinghorn> !cron > user01
[23:08] <L33tCh> problem is we can;t get past grub, so any bash commands... not an option :(
[23:08] <L33tCh> ah, didn't think of that... work in grub?
[23:09] <Jordan_U> L33tCh: Yes, "ls /boot/" works in grub.
[23:09] <L33tCh> thanks... will get him to try that...
[23:09] <vlt> L33tCh: grub supports tab auto-completion (for the exact file names)
[23:09] <ridin> how can i rename my computer
[23:09] <Jordan_U> !hostname | ridin
[23:09] <blain> ridin hostname
[23:10] <L33tCh> vlt: thought so but when we type vmlin and hit tab, jsut moves to a new line (same text) anyway, trying to list the dir now...
[23:10] <vlt> user01: Have a look at pkg cron-apt
[23:10] <bladescape> If this helps, there were no errors during Ubuntu install, and before Ubuntu I was running Windows Vista Home Premium x64 with excellent graphics. I love the Ubuntu OS except for the graphics issue. I've searched high and low around the Web for a solution to the problem but couldn't find one that worked for me so I thought I'd ask here.
[23:10] <user01> vlt, ok
[23:11] <ridin> ok i did sudo gedit /etc/hosts and there was my hostname, do i just change the hostname
[23:11] <vlt> bladescape: I never used orca. Can you check the behaviour on another machine? Just to verify that it is an X server issue?
[23:12] <user01> slidinghorn, so if i do a crontab of aptitude dist-upgrade it will answer the prompts?
[23:12] <mountainman5> Hey guys, newbie here, how do you check the md5sum of a cd that you have burned an .iso image of the ubuntu OS to?
[23:13] <blain> ridin no, use hostname command
[23:13] <slidinghorn> user01, well first, let me ask, how often are you planning on doing a dist upgrade?  that should be a very rare occasion...
[23:13] <bladescape> When I used Ubuntu on my desktop machine running NVIDIA GeForce 6200 graphics on an Intel Celeron 2.40GHz processor and 1 GB RAM Orca worked wonderfully and there were no graphics issues at all. Mind you this was at the end of last year and I was using Ubuntu 9.10 not 10.04 as it hadn't been released yet.
[23:13] <ridin> blain, according to the bot if i want it perm i have to change /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname
[23:14] <sebsebseb> !md5sum | mountainman5
[23:14] <sebsebseb> !hashes
[23:14] <blain> yeah, rght /etc/hostname but not /etc/hosts
[23:14] <delaman> mountainman5: you can only do a md5sum with an iso
[23:14] <L33tCh> ok, boot folder is empty :(  anyone know how i can get files from a wubi partition
[23:14] <ridin> blain, it said if it's not matched then sudo won't work
[23:15] <vlt> mountainman5: Two options: check the whole disk `md5sum /dev/cdrom` but there might be errors if the device has not the same size as the iso had (I experienced this with some cd writers) or use the built-in md5sum check from the boot menu
[23:15] <blain> sudo vi /etc/hostname
[23:15] <user01> slidinghorn, why do you say that?
[23:15] <L33tCh> well, wubi partition file i guess...
[23:15] <user01> slidinghorn, aptitude dist-upgrade gets updates to the currently installed packages, including any new packages which are now required
[23:15] <vlt> mountainman5: ... which checks every single file  -- except itself ;-)
[23:15] <ridin> what does vi do?
[23:16] <blain> text editor
[23:17] <slidinghorn> user01, dist upgrade upgrades the entire distro -- doesn't only update packages.  I'd recommend cron-apt to set up regular apt-get update && apt-get upgrade...see here for the difference b/t upgrade & dist-upgrade http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/whats-the-difference-between-apt-get-upgrade-and-apt-get-dist-upgrade-165998/
[23:18] <vlt> !who | bladescape
[23:18] <slidinghorn> user01, here's the package info for cron-apt: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/cron-apt
[23:18] <vlt> bladescape: So, looks like a gm45 problem indee
[23:18] <vlt> s
[23:18] <L33tCh> is it possible to get to files saved in a wubi installation if you are not able to boot into said installation any more?
[23:19] <vlt> indeed, even
[23:19] <user01> slidinghorn, it updates the most recent packages?  http://www.shallowsky.com/blog/linux/debian-upgrades.html
[23:19] <vlt> L33tCh: Boot a live cd and mount the file system you want access to
[23:20] <L33tCh> vlt: the files were saved in the wubi file system which i assume is a file on an NTFS partition in windows... any idea how to mount that?
[23:20] <bladescape> vlt: What about the blank xorg.conf file? There are some solutions I can try to fix the issue that require me to edit xorg.conf but if it is blank can I still use those solutions?
[23:20] <vlt> L33tCh: mount has an "-o loop" option
[23:21] <vlt> bladescape: I haven't  touch an xorg.conf in years ...
[23:21] <vlt> *touched
[23:21] <L33tCh> similar to used when mounting an iso then?
[23:21]  * vlt needs to sleep
[23:22] <erUSUL> L33tCh: yes
[23:22] <bladescape> vlt: If xorg.conf is blank is there another way to configure the X server or is there a sample xorg.conf file that I can use as a starting point for implementing the solutions I've found?
[23:23] <slidinghorn> user01, it really depends on what you're trying to do...if you're just doing a routine update of the system, apt-get update is recommended -- it does dependency checking and skips upgrading if there's a conflict (which I believe cron-apt can output any errors, warnings etc so you can check if this happened)
[23:23] <L33tCh> thanks... anyway, brother's gone to sleep, so i guess can't do any more now...
[23:23] <vlt> bladescape: I think you can override the automatically detected values simply by editing xorg.conf, yes
[23:24] <erUSUL> bladescape: try this. « sudo Xorg -configure :1 » if it works it will create a xorg.conf in /root/
[23:25] <bladescape> vlt: one of the solutions I've found was to enable UXA support by adding a certain line to xorg.conf. This solution was for Ubuntu 9.04 though so I don't know if UXA has been enabled by default in 10.04. Apparently UXA provides greater performance for Intel graphics cards such as mine. Do you kmnow if UXA is enabled by default in 10.04?
[23:29] <Lazyvee> hello everyone! I have a problem: I cannot watch flash videos (like Youtube videos) in Firefox. It seems it sucks up all my resources so even thought the sound is OK the images barely move! what can I do to solve this?
[23:29] <vlt> Lazyvee: With HTML5
[23:29]  * vlt ducks
[23:30] <Lazyvee> vlt: oh, so HTML5 is the culprit huh
[23:30] <Lazyvee> haha
[23:30] <thune3> Lazyvee: this is fullscreen, or regular sized?
[23:30] <Lazyvee> well, let's e-mail Youtube
[23:31] <Lazyvee> regular sized
[23:31] <jcompute000> Does anyone know how compatible this computer is with Ubuntu if the most graphics I will probably be using are things like Compiz: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Compaq+-+Presario+Desktop+with+AMD+Athlon%26%23153%3B+II+Dual-Core+Processor/9693859.p?id=1218152062935&skuId=9693859
[23:31] <Lazyvee> I installed Ubuntu today, i'm still trying things out
[23:31] <fipu> useradd -g 0 -u 0 myuser
[23:31] <fipu> useradd: UID 0 is not unique
[23:31] <fipu> what can I do to fix that?
[23:31] <fipu> I want a secondary root user
[23:31] <soreau> jcompute000: What gpu does it have?
[23:31] <fipu> and this user must have full permissions
[23:32] <jcompute000> NVIDIA GeForce 6150 SE
[23:33] <Lazyvee> thune3: regular sized videos
[23:33] <jcompute000> soreau: NVIDIA GeForce 6150 SE
[23:33] <thune3> Lazyvee: did you install adobe flash player?
[23:33] <bricky> hey I gave up on my wifi problem, is there anyway to make your internet dl quicker
[23:34] <Lazyvee> thune3: yes I installed adobe flash player
[23:34] <fipu> Can anyone help me with my user problem please?
[23:34] <robertzaccour> how do i get chromium browser buttons on the left like everything else is?
[23:34] <Dulak> fipu: put the user in the admin group and they can use 'sudo -i' to get a root shell anytime they need it
[23:34] <soreau> jcompute000: I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work. That card can run compiz just fine, as long as the driver is willing to cooperate
[23:34] <feurig> anyone know how to talk to usb devices without escallating privilages the udev rules in lucid seem to be pretty foobard
[23:36]  * feurig thinks that whoever keeps saying thats normal has been listing to too much glen beck.
[23:36] <thune3> Lazyvee: i can only think that you might have very low power cpu, or you have a graphics driver issue. (flash is normally resource hungry in linux)
[23:36] <feurig> anyways. I here this channel can be more useful than google sometimes.
[23:37] <ivano> #ubuntu-it
[23:37] <jcompute000> soreau: That is the issue that I am concerned about. I know conceptually it should run fine, but I also know that some grapics cards give certian driver problems that will cause them not to be able to do things like 3D rendering. I just got done with another computer (an older on, so I kind of expected it) that had that issue. I was just wondering if anyone knows for sure whether that will work. Also, what about a computer with 
[23:38] <Lazyvee> thune3: maybe it's a graphics driver issue, but I don't know how to check (I'm new to Ubuntu)
[23:38] <ridin> ok, i changed my hostname perma, but now my mounted devices "WALKMAN" and "New Volume" are changed into "WALKMAN_" and "New Volume_", what gives
[23:38]  * feurig can has typing and grammar...
[23:39] <bladescape1> erUSUL: "xorg: command not found"
[23:39] <soreau> jcompute000: Every graphics driver has it's own set of problems, there's no denying that. However, while nvidia is proprietary, doesn't cooperate with OSS devs and deosn't even support xrandr1.2 yet, also with the lack of general community support you get (from actual driver devs), I see radeon as a much better bet
[23:39] <erUSUL> bladescape1: Xorg ( capital X )
[23:39] <thune3> Lazyvee: can you show me the 'product' and the 'driver' show when you run "lshw -C video"
[23:39] <soreau> jcompute000: The radeon driver is OSS, is already better than it's proprietary counterpart in most areas, supports xrandr fully and you have limitless support from real radeon driver devs in #radeon
[23:40] <jcompute000> soreau: Ok, thanks for you help. I mostly wish there was a way I could test it at the store, but I'm sure Best Buy and company would not appreciate me using an Ubuntu live CD on their floor models, lol.
[23:40] <jenda> When I send an email with attachments in Thunderbird and I press cancel before it completes sending (it took quite a while), is there a chance the recipient receives part of the message?
[23:41] <nibblebot> what does it mean when I can find a package via apt-cache search but when i go to apt-get install it, it says 'E: Package X has no installation candidate'
[23:42] <euthymos> hi I found jetty installed on my system, listening on port 8080 and I never installed it
[23:42] <soreau> jcompute000: Dude, ask the sales guy.. I bet he might let you if there's no store policy against that kind of thing (doesnt hurt to ask ;)
[23:42] <Lazyvee> thune3: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/Md99iZBd
[23:43] <valentinex> Hello, for some people i saw that they have a cute small buttom panel, which shows minimized application icons only, how to do so?
[23:43] <jcompute000> soreau: Yea, thanks. I may do that. But also, I am not sure how much I can test from the live CD. Obviously, if it works right off the bat, then I am golden. But if I have to install a driver, then I don't know if the live CD will be an easy way to test that.
[23:43] <bastidrazor> valentinex: you mean like cairo-dock ?
[23:44] <valentinex> bastidrazor: yes i think something like that, will that make my pc slow? my ubuntu is already slow with my system
[23:44] <valentinex> bastidrazor: how to get that cairo dock?
[23:45] <soreau> jcompute000: If it has a internet connection, just install the nvidia driver with jockey (sys>admin>hardware drivers) then when it asks you to reboot, restart gdm instead from tty
[23:45] <blackstar256> is this the chatroom to talk about games on ubuntu?
[23:45] <feurig> anyone have any insight  on the udev changes in 10.4? all of my userland usb devices are requiring privilage escallation..
[23:45] <fipu> problem clear ;)
[23:46] <bastidrazor> valentinex: it will add load to your box yes,   sudo apt-get install cairo-dock   .. you can start it with 'cairo-dock -c'  the -c option will not require it to use opengl
[23:46] <jcompute000> soreau: Although I don't have much practice, because I don't install Ubuntu on tons of different machines (I'm not rich), I think I could manage that much, though thanks for clarifying, it may have taken me longer to figure out. However, I would feel aquward standing there doing all that on a floor model, even if they say its ok.
[23:46] <valentinex> bastidrazor: oh will add load, then i wont install :(
[23:46] <soreau> jcompute000: Rock out with your cock out xD
[23:46]  * soreau hides
[23:47] <bastidrazor> valentinex: any program you run will add load.
[23:47] <jcompute000> soreau: Also, do you know if an Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator X4500 would have any better or worse chance of working?
[23:47] <Ankhwatcher> hey, I'm having problems with the deluge webui on my server
[23:47] <bladescape1> erUSUL: thanks - I didn't see the capital X. An xorg.conf file was generated successfully and now I'm editing it to employ some of the solutions I found online.
[23:47] <Ankhwatcher> I can't get it to come up
[23:47] <bastidrazor> valentinex: you can test it out. if you don't like it then just uninstall it.
[23:47] <Niglop> Everytime i log onto linux nothing responds and i have to restart x display everytime for it to work? it wasnt doing this before
[23:47] <valentinex> bastidrazor: ok thank you i try
[23:47] <soreau> jcompute000: Probably worse since the state of the intel drivers is not very good and integrated chips are just inferior
[23:48] <jcompute000> soreau: Thats what I figured, although thats odd, since I am currently looking at three different computers, and the most expensive of the three (they are all under $600) is the only one that has the Intel instead of the nVidia
[23:49] <soreau> jcompute000: Ideally, I'd recommend an r5-7xx card which means X1300-X1950 and and of the HDxxxx series
[23:49] <bastidrazor> valentinex: there is also avant-window-navigator .. it may require less resources to run than cairo-dock but that is an assumption. i have not tested to verify
[23:49] <IdleOne> !guidelines > soreau
[23:49] <Blue1> what's the best way to install ff 32 bit and 64 bit on a 64 bit system?
[23:49] <guest11> anybody here
[23:49] <Blue1> guest11: I can fake it.
[23:49] <guest11> Is the S-video cable enough for pc to tv link
[23:50] <bastidrazor> guest11: i use it on one of my boxes.. it isn't the best but is doable
[23:50] <Blue1> guest11: beyond by knowledge level - sorry
[23:50] <valentinex> bastidrazor: why to start cairo i have to use commands? no icon?
[23:50] <guest11> my signal is blurry
[23:50] <valentinex> bastidrazor: no auto start?
[23:50] <makish> Behöver lite hjälp gällande formatering
[23:50] <jcompute000> soreau: Yes, I know I could probably get better than what I am looking at. My main goal for this computer is a computer that works well enough to do a few specail things that I need compiz working for, but it will not be my main computer. As such, I don't want something too expensive, so I am trying to figure out which of the cheaper ones will work.
[23:50] <sebsebseb> makish: #ubuntu-se
[23:51] <sebsebseb> !se
[23:51] <bastidrazor> valentinex: you can get it to autostart when you login but by default it does not autostart.
[23:51] <makish> sebsebseb, i know..forgot to type in the join channel command =P
[23:51] <bastidrazor> valentinex: Applications > Accessories > Cairo Dock (no opengl)
[23:52] <valentinex> bastidrazor: ok thanks, and what is avant window navigator sir?
[23:52] <guest11> anybody
[23:52] <guest11> with ideas
[23:52] <GaaraR1> hello!!
[23:52] <GaaraR1> i need a favor
[23:53] <GaaraR1> im a noob using ubuntu
[23:53] <bastidrazor> valentinex: it is very similiar to cairo-dock just has a few less plugins. it does very well for its purpose.
[23:53] <nibblebot> i want to install php5-memcache but apt-get install php5-memcache is telling me 'no installation candidate'. I have lucid universe in my sources.list, what else am i missing here?
[23:53] <giacia95> salve
[23:53] <giacia95> ita?
[23:53] <guest11> hey bastidrazor
[23:53] <LjL> !it | giacia95
[23:53] <guest11> ?
[23:53] <GaaraR1> i need to know how i can save my projects in xampp/htdocs
[23:54] <GaaraR1> from bluefish
[23:54] <bastidrazor> guest11: Yes?
[23:54] <GaaraR1> i have a message alltime, denied
[23:54] <guest11> you listening
[23:54] <guest11> my signal is blurry
[23:55] <tuizim> hello! im trying to use skype and jack. on this thread http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=25820 they say to use artsd, but its discontinued on 10.04 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/arts/1.5.10-0ubuntu1 is there an alternative?
[23:56] <guest11> how do i execute run files?????????
[23:56] <tuizim> guerd87, ./file.run
[23:56] <tuizim> maybe you need to first do chmod +x file.run
[23:56] <bricky> hey is there any tools that increase your internet speed ?
[23:57] <tuizim> bricky, no
[23:57] <sille777> Hello All!  I have a Gurb editing question I need help with
[23:57] <valentinex> bastidrazor: how to start avant window navigator?
[23:57] <bricky> tuizim: no lol, ok thank you
[23:57] <bastidrazor> valentinex: look in the menus for it.
[23:57] <valentinex> ok
[23:58] <guest11> damn
[23:58] <guest11> anybody listening to me
[23:58] <sille777> I just cloned a couple of partition with clonezilla to another drive.  the source drive also had a WinXp partition that was not cloned to the target...
[23:58] <IdleOne> guest11: we see you
[23:58] <guest11> help me with my question
[23:59] <L33tCh> bricky... if you really want to, you can try teh latest version of the opera web browser... has the option to route your browsing through a server that compresses any pictures and stuff (though you of course lose quality) if you want
[23:59] <IdleOne> guest11: what's your question.
[23:59] <guest11> lol
[23:59] <guest11> i gotta repeat it
[23:59] <IdleOne> guest11: no, I'll use telepathy plugin to read your mind
[23:59] <L33tCh> ./<filename>
[23:59] <guest11> look up
[23:59] <guest11> look up
[23:59] <sille777> the clone went fine except that grub gives the option for winxp on the cloned (target drive) when it doest need to
[23:59] <IdleOne> !attitude | guest11
[23:59] <L33tCh> for guest11