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sean-laptophello all.. very pleased with this distro.. much better than using Gnome or KDE or LXDE01:47
Raggshi sean-laptop01:50
sean-laptopi am running Xubuntu on an 8 year old Thinkpad T20 with 512 megs of ram, a PIII 650, a ten gig hard drive, and an old wireless usb dongle.. feels good man01:50
sean-laptopRaggs, hey!01:50
Raggsglad to see it is working for ya01:52
Raggsi am using a thinkpad too01:52
sean-laptopRaggs, oh it is.. although i perfer Chromium over Firefox for a browser.. fast!01:52
sean-laptopRaggs, what kinda thinkpad?01:52
RaggsSL41001:52
Raggsyou can get chromium01:52
sean-laptopRaggs, yeah i found out on google.. sometimes its easier to use terminal.. i manually added the repositories to my software sources01:53
Raggssweet01:53
sean-laptopit works damn great.. i dont wanna bother with Iron.. cause i want to avoid using Wine as much as i can01:54
Raggsyou dont sound like a newbie linux user01:54
RaggsIron?01:54
sean-laptopRaggs, i learned a bit in the last few months.. cut my teeth on Puppy Linux.. then stepped up to Xubuntu when i upgraded my ram01:54
Raggsnice01:55
Raggsi use ubuntu atm01:55
Raggswith parts of kde i like01:55
sean-laptopRaggs, Iron is Chrome but its made to run with Wine.  it installs wine as a dependancy i believe01:55
Raggsi see, chromium runs with no wine though01:55
sean-laptopi am running XFCE.. i find its a lot faster then Gnome or KDE on my hardware.,. then again its an 8 year old laptop01:56
Raggsusing xchat?01:56
sean-laptopRaggs, yup01:56
Raggsnice01:56
Raggsi have used maybe 20 distros and think i have settled on ubuntu, or xubuntu01:57
sean-laptopyeah its a lot like Gnome in its layout.. but its a faster environment.. you can install XFCE in Synaptic..01:57
Raggsi did already01:57
Raggsi prefer gnome01:57
Raggsand my hardware doesnt mind it01:58
sean-laptopRaggs, well gnome is slick when you have the hardware to run it lol01:58
Raggsbut this is a friendlier channel01:58
sean-laptopi also installed xubuntu on an old desktop i frankensteined a while ago01:58
sean-laptopits always evolving but for now it is complete01:58
Raggsi think when i am done with this install it will be frankenbuntu01:59
sean-laptopits got partrs that i had laying around and even parts i found at the dump when i was offloading garbage form when i was doing spring cleanup on my land01:59
sean-laptopnice01:59
Raggseven made / stole a wallpaper01:59
sean-laptopRaggs, nice.. i usually have daft punk for mine..02:00
Raggsdaft punk?02:00
sean-laptopwell to tell you.. the ram and power supply came from the dump.. ethernet card too02:00
sean-laptopdaft ppunk is an electro group from france02:00
sean-laptopmy mother had a dead tower that i got the video card and dvd burner from02:00
Raggsmy wallpaper, still working on it    http://omploader.org/vNHVrMQ02:01
sean-laptoptower itself i had laying around.. celeron 667 that i upgraded to a 95002:01
sean-laptopniiice02:01
sean-laptopwell i am still learning Gimp.. so i am still fooling around with it myself02:01
RaggsGimps not bad, i took a photoshop class that sorta helped02:02
sean-laptopfor my ppower supply i had to use a drill and put in new holes for the supply cause the mount holes originally didnt match02:02
sean-laptopyeah i am learning on my own02:02
sean-laptopi have had no computing classes outside of Office 07 (feel dirty saying it) in my trade school as a related required course02:03
Raggsi have a few required classes02:03
sean-laptopsame here.. mostlyt stuff i already took in university lol02:05
Raggsi need java, visual studio C++ and others02:05
sean-laptopi dunno it i will bother with that yes..02:06
sean-laptopi already have welding and automotive under my belt now02:06
Raggsi dont have a choice02:06
sean-laptopand three years of university02:06
sean-laptopin the IT industry?02:06
RaggsInformations System major02:06
sean-laptopoooo well then02:07
sean-laptopdid you need a pre-existing degree for that?02:07
Raggsone day i wanna be a puter geek02:08
sean-laptopyou need a degree to take that in our university in my province02:08
Raggsi have an associated degree in networking02:08
sean-laptopooo well then02:09
sean-laptopnice02:09
sean-laptopmy bud is an admin in the local hospital02:09
sean-laptophe has to jsut mostly do troubleshooting and plug shit in and allocate it on the server and mac address bullshit02:10
Raggsyep02:10
Raggsi am now following a software design track02:10
sean-laptoplovely.. he just did a two year trade in his. but i think things work different in our education structure02:10
sean-laptoptrades and certificates take two years and you have to take them at a trade school.. degrees are 4 to 5 and have to be at a university02:11
sean-laptopi wouldnt mind learning that stuff02:11
sean-laptopi mostly just fool around with what i have and hack video game systems02:11
sean-laptoplike the wii and ps2 and xbox1 and psp02:12
Raggsdo what ya enjoy02:12
sean-laptopsoftmods02:12
sean-laptopoh yeah02:12
sean-laptopwell i am in canada so file sharing is legal.. and so isw downloading games.. kinda.. as long as you dont get caught02:12
sean-laptoplol02:12
sean-laptop;)02:12
sean-laptopi use the psp for emulators and the xbox for playing movies off my network with XBMC02:13
Raggsi dont game02:14
sean-laptopoh? i dont too much.. my nephews do. its a great babysitter when you have as many games as a japanese arcade lol02:14
Raggssean-laptop, i dont watch my neices and nephews02:18
sean-laptopRaggs, well i am kind of a father figure to them.. we are rather close.. and i am the only one without children among my siblings02:20
Raggsi see, my nearest niece and nephews are near 3002:20
Raggssean-laptop, i am a grandfather figure to a little boy02:26
sean-laptopRaggs, thats always cool02:33
sean-laptophow old r u then?02:33
Raggs4502:33
sean-laptopnice.. i am 31 lol02:34
Raggs31 is still young02:36
sean-laptopyeah it is.. feel old some days02:38
Raggsme too02:38
sean-laptopyeah but young some days lo02:40
sean-laptoplol02:40
Raggstrue enough02:42
sean-laptophence the kids and video games.. they also love the angry video game nerd on youtube.. i showed it to them02:43
sean-laptoplol02:43
Raggsi hope this distro works well for you02:45
sean-laptopRaggs, i hope so too.. it has so far.. are you using Lucid?02:46
Raggsyes02:46
sean-laptopnice.. i am debating trying the beta for Maverick02:47
Raggswhen it is released why not02:48
sean-laptopyeah. the alpha is out now but i am debating still.. but i love lucid .. nice and fast02:48
Raggsand a LTS02:48
sean-laptopwelcome Bitwraith02:49
BitWraithis there any way to change the wallpaper besides right clicking the desktop?02:49
sean-laptopnow do you mean the desktop or the login screen wallpaper?02:49
BitWraithsean-laptop, either one will work for my purposes02:50
RaggsBit in settings02:50
BitWraithI am using a different window manager, and this one uses a fake root window, so the background in programs like xchat is not the same as the actual background02:51
sean-laptopwell you can set a wallpaper for the desktop just by going to your desired folder where the picture is .. rightclicking it and selecting set as wallpaper02:51
BitWraithcome to think of it, I had my background set in xfce before, so if that was all I needed then I would not still be having this problem.02:52
Raggsbrb sean-laptop02:52
sean-laptopok02:52
sean-laptopBitWraith, so the right click does not give you the option?02:53
BitWraithsean-laptop, I don't have that same menu anymore02:53
BitWraithand, as I said, I really do need to change the OTHER background02:53
BitWraithwhen I said that either one would work, that was my mistake02:54
sean-laptopso you are using xfce., but what is your windows manager?02:54
BitWraithno, I am not using xfce anymore02:55
BitWraithxfce was my old window manager02:55
BitWraithI'm actually using E17 now.02:55
BitWraith(with Ecomorph, which is unspeakably awesome btw)02:56
sean-laptopi dont have any experiance with that.. still using Thunar02:56
sean-laptopthe crappy part is almost no one is here at the moment. well no one to respond02:58
sean-laptop:P02:58
sean-laptopdid you see if there was a forum for E17 or another channel?02:59
BitWraiththere is #e on this network, they don't seem to know of any way to make E17 set up the background used with psuedo-transparency03:00
BitWraithso I'm right back to trying to set it using something other than E03:00
sean-laptopcompositing?03:01
sean-laptopyou mean something other than E or XFCE03:01
BitWraithI actually do have compositing, but the type of transparency I am talking about is fake transparency used by apps like xchat03:02
sean-laptopoh.. well then03:02
sean-laptopi just use XFCEs compositing.. cause i need it to run Cairo-Dock03:03
BitWraithmy point is, xchat doesn't use an alpha channel03:03
sean-laptopthat sucks..03:03
sean-laptoptry a different server?03:04
BitWraithso it doesn't matter what compositing I use elsewhere03:04
BitWraith... I'm starting to wonder if I'm talking to a robot03:04
BitWraithlol03:04
sean-laptoplemme see what i can dig up03:04
sean-laptopyou say you are using Ecomorph?03:05
BitWraithyes03:05
sean-laptopok03:06
sean-laptoplemme look some more03:06
sean-laptoptry ere?03:06
sean-laptopi mean try here?03:06
sean-laptophttp://code.google.com/p/itask-module/wiki/EcomorphFaq03:06
Raggsis ecomorph an *ubuntu app?03:07
BitWraithnot exactly03:08
BitWraithI followed these instructions: http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/install-enlightenment-e17-in-ubuntu.html03:08
BitWraiththey call for me to add a repo that is maintained by the E devs03:08
sean-laptopwell it also said that E17 is not in release yet.. are you uning the alpha?03:09
Raggssean-laptop, E has been developing 17 for a loooong time03:10
BitWraiththe word "alpha" has a couple of different meanings in this context.03:10
sean-laptopyeah i guess.. kinda like Fluxbuntu.. (still only supporting 9.04 yet i think )03:10
BitWraithwhen I said "alpha" I meant that there is a fourth color channel that controls how opaque or transparent a window is03:11
RaggsBitWraith, but with something like this you could probably get more educated ideas from their channel, if they have one03:11
sean-laptopyeah i know.. i tried searching.. unless they are on another server03:11
BitWraiththey do, and I consulted them03:11
BitWraithwhen I tried this on Gentoo, I was able to fix it with esetroot, but you guys don't have a pakcage for that03:12
BitWraithgsetroot comes close, but I don't quite have the positioning right yet03:13
sean-laptopyeah .. no source to compile for esetroot?>03:14
RaggsBitWraith, what did they say when you contacted them?03:14
sean-laptopi never.. deep googling03:15
sean-laptopthats how i have to yield most of my info03:15
BitWraiththey said that E17 doesn't change the fake transparency background, and neither E17 nor xchat set up the alpha channel03:16
Raggsthat is helpful03:16
BitWraithin other words, what I am trying to do is impossible, unless some other software is added to set up fake transparency03:17
BitWraithI finally got gsetroot to work though03:17
Raggshsetroot i guess might be possible03:17
sean-laptopyeah it says only ecomorph can do what you are asking from what i read03:17
BitWraith...03:17
BitWraithno03:17
Raggsno?03:18
BitWraithecomorph does NOT set up the alpha channel either03:18
sean-laptopoh sorry my bad03:18
BitWraithit only sets up the screen to disply transparent windows... the windows then have to make THEMSELVES partially transparent03:18
Raggsand the folks at E say what you are trying is impossible03:19
BitWraithwell, I asked them about changing the alpha channel, not about the fake transparency03:19
BitWraithfake transparency works, now that I found gsetroot I am using it now03:20
BitWraithI wish xchat could set the alpha channel though03:20
sean-laptopyeah.. try another irc client?03:21
Raggssean-laptop, good patience03:39
sean-laptopRaggs, huh? lol03:40
Raggswith BitWraith03:40
sean-laptopRaggs, i guess so03:40
sean-laptopthank god i had a beer in hand lol03:41
Raggshe was not very forthcoming with information03:41
sean-laptopRaggs, yeah.. used to that.. when i was in school last year i was the Site Admin for my local internet communuty access site03:42
sean-laptopwith that and friends needin tech help i am used to cryptic info03:42
Raggsthe whole not supported app thing would have ben good to know03:43
sean-laptopyeah i know..03:45
sean-laptopkinda was barking up the wrong tree here03:45
sean-laptopif he had gotten rid of XFCE then there was no point in coming in here03:45
sean-laptopthats like going to toyota to get a hyundai fixed03:45
Raggswell it is like shoving a hyundai motor in a toyota and asking toyota to fix it03:46
sean-laptopmy thoughts exactly03:48
sean-laptopthats like having issues with kde and comin here.. if that was the case then go to #kubuntu03:49
Raggsyou would think, or kde03:49
sean-laptopyeah03:50
sean-laptopmeh.. i guess he realized it was futile after a while03:50
sean-laptopwhat got me was him saying that he felt like he was tlaking to a robot03:50
Raggssean-laptop, i would have stopped then03:50
sean-laptopRaggs, i guess but i am used to helping the inept03:51
sean-laptop:P03:51
sean-laptopbut what some do not realize is that a nice google search and some patience can go a long way03:51
sean-laptopthats how i learned how to install chromium on my own03:52
Raggssean-laptop, i dont mind helping the inept, being insulted by them irks me however03:52
sean-laptoplong before i came here03:52
sean-laptophave you ever tried puppy linux?03:52
sean-laptopit was slackware based then made from scratch.. now its on its own but uses packages from lucid.. its nice and lightweight.. great for old hardware03:53
Raggsi have used puppy03:53
sean-laptopand yes.. some people do not realize that they should not bite the hand that feeds them03:53
sean-laptopi have puppy 5 and puppy arcade 803:53
Raggsit was Debian based03:53
sean-laptoppuppy arcade is good for emulators03:53
sean-laptopeverything from the spectrum to mame to nintendo.. and even ScummVM03:55
Raggsemulating what?03:55
sean-laptoponly thing that it dont come with are roms03:55
Raggsi am heading out, good talking to ya sean-laptop, hope to chat again, you know where i am03:57
sean-laptopsure thing pal.. nice meeting you]03:58
robertzaccourwill 10.10 have a new theme?07:48
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robertzaccourwill 10.10 have a new theme?08:13
nikolamWhat do you think it is best SMB/samba client to connect and transfer files to/from windows desktop?11:33
ablomennikolam, i find mounting the samba share (with cifs) work best for me11:39
nikolamablomen, i want to give eeepc nbook to a girl and I need GUI to give her so she can transfer her files11:52
ablomenah ehm except for pyneighborhood (which never worked for me) i don't know of any app that let's you browse the network like nautilus does11:53
ablomenbut you could try it, have not used it for ages11:54
ablomenor you could install nautilus, but among other problems it will steal your desktop if you are not careful and having two file managers is gonna be kind of confusing11:54
TheSheepablomen: there is gigolo11:56
ablomenTheSheep, yes but that does not browse the network (not here anyway)11:57
TheSheepablomen: strange, I think it should11:57
ablomenmight be because i am on 9.10 (which uses gigolo 3.2)11:57
ablomenehm 0.3.211:58
ablomenah yes 0.4 looks a lot different11:59
Sysii didn't have problems with nautilus11:59
ablomennikolam, ok, so like TheSheep suggested, try gigolo (might be called Remote Filesystems in the System menu)11:59
ablomenah, lol, ok so there is a "Show 'browse network' side panel" setting in gigolo which is turned off (?) in 9.1012:00
ablomenTheSheep, it does indeed browse the network when you check the option12:01
slow-motionhi12:02
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slow-motionbye15:31
kunsolehello. Is there something like Skippy for Gnome and Exposé for OS X for Xubuntu?16:48
Sysino, if you're not gonna use compiz16:50
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xubuntu495I just got to say that this is pretty nifty! A chatlink while installing Xubuntu, what will you think of next?!19:15
gebjgdhello guys, what about the bug of the backlight changing under xubuntu?23:18
gebjgdis there a solution for that?23:18
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