| sean-laptop | hello all.. very pleased with this distro.. much better than using Gnome or KDE or LXDE | 01:47 |
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| Raggs | hi sean-laptop | 01:50 |
| sean-laptop | i am running Xubuntu on an 8 year old Thinkpad T20 with 512 megs of ram, a PIII 650, a ten gig hard drive, and an old wireless usb dongle.. feels good man | 01:50 |
| sean-laptop | Raggs, hey! | 01:50 |
| Raggs | glad to see it is working for ya | 01:52 |
| Raggs | i am using a thinkpad too | 01:52 |
| sean-laptop | Raggs, oh it is.. although i perfer Chromium over Firefox for a browser.. fast! | 01:52 |
| sean-laptop | Raggs, what kinda thinkpad? | 01:52 |
| Raggs | SL410 | 01:52 |
| Raggs | you can get chromium | 01:52 |
| sean-laptop | Raggs, yeah i found out on google.. sometimes its easier to use terminal.. i manually added the repositories to my software sources | 01:53 |
| Raggs | sweet | 01:53 |
| sean-laptop | it works damn great.. i dont wanna bother with Iron.. cause i want to avoid using Wine as much as i can | 01:54 |
| Raggs | you dont sound like a newbie linux user | 01:54 |
| Raggs | Iron? | 01:54 |
| sean-laptop | Raggs, i learned a bit in the last few months.. cut my teeth on Puppy Linux.. then stepped up to Xubuntu when i upgraded my ram | 01:54 |
| Raggs | nice | 01:55 |
| Raggs | i use ubuntu atm | 01:55 |
| Raggs | with parts of kde i like | 01:55 |
| sean-laptop | Raggs, Iron is Chrome but its made to run with Wine. it installs wine as a dependancy i believe | 01:55 |
| Raggs | i see, chromium runs with no wine though | 01:55 |
| sean-laptop | i am running XFCE.. i find its a lot faster then Gnome or KDE on my hardware.,. then again its an 8 year old laptop | 01:56 |
| Raggs | using xchat? | 01:56 |
| sean-laptop | Raggs, yup | 01:56 |
| Raggs | nice | 01:56 |
| Raggs | i have used maybe 20 distros and think i have settled on ubuntu, or xubuntu | 01:57 |
| sean-laptop | yeah its a lot like Gnome in its layout.. but its a faster environment.. you can install XFCE in Synaptic.. | 01:57 |
| Raggs | i did already | 01:57 |
| Raggs | i prefer gnome | 01:57 |
| Raggs | and my hardware doesnt mind it | 01:58 |
| sean-laptop | Raggs, well gnome is slick when you have the hardware to run it lol | 01:58 |
| Raggs | but this is a friendlier channel | 01:58 |
| sean-laptop | i also installed xubuntu on an old desktop i frankensteined a while ago | 01:58 |
| sean-laptop | its always evolving but for now it is complete | 01:58 |
| Raggs | i think when i am done with this install it will be frankenbuntu | 01:59 |
| sean-laptop | its got partrs that i had laying around and even parts i found at the dump when i was offloading garbage form when i was doing spring cleanup on my land | 01:59 |
| sean-laptop | nice | 01:59 |
| Raggs | even made / stole a wallpaper | 01:59 |
| sean-laptop | Raggs, nice.. i usually have daft punk for mine.. | 02:00 |
| Raggs | daft punk? | 02:00 |
| sean-laptop | well to tell you.. the ram and power supply came from the dump.. ethernet card too | 02:00 |
| sean-laptop | daft ppunk is an electro group from france | 02:00 |
| sean-laptop | my mother had a dead tower that i got the video card and dvd burner from | 02:00 |
| Raggs | my wallpaper, still working on it http://omploader.org/vNHVrMQ | 02:01 |
| sean-laptop | tower itself i had laying around.. celeron 667 that i upgraded to a 950 | 02:01 |
| sean-laptop | niiice | 02:01 |
| sean-laptop | well i am still learning Gimp.. so i am still fooling around with it myself | 02:01 |
| Raggs | Gimps not bad, i took a photoshop class that sorta helped | 02:02 |
| sean-laptop | for my ppower supply i had to use a drill and put in new holes for the supply cause the mount holes originally didnt match | 02:02 |
| sean-laptop | yeah i am learning on my own | 02:02 |
| sean-laptop | i have had no computing classes outside of Office 07 (feel dirty saying it) in my trade school as a related required course | 02:03 |
| Raggs | i have a few required classes | 02:03 |
| sean-laptop | same here.. mostlyt stuff i already took in university lol | 02:05 |
| Raggs | i need java, visual studio C++ and others | 02:05 |
| sean-laptop | i dunno it i will bother with that yes.. | 02:06 |
| sean-laptop | i already have welding and automotive under my belt now | 02:06 |
| Raggs | i dont have a choice | 02:06 |
| sean-laptop | and three years of university | 02:06 |
| sean-laptop | in the IT industry? | 02:06 |
| Raggs | Informations System major | 02:06 |
| sean-laptop | oooo well then | 02:07 |
| sean-laptop | did you need a pre-existing degree for that? | 02:07 |
| Raggs | one day i wanna be a puter geek | 02:08 |
| sean-laptop | you need a degree to take that in our university in my province | 02:08 |
| Raggs | i have an associated degree in networking | 02:08 |
| sean-laptop | ooo well then | 02:09 |
| sean-laptop | nice | 02:09 |
| sean-laptop | my bud is an admin in the local hospital | 02:09 |
| sean-laptop | he has to jsut mostly do troubleshooting and plug shit in and allocate it on the server and mac address bullshit | 02:10 |
| Raggs | yep | 02:10 |
| Raggs | i am now following a software design track | 02:10 |
| sean-laptop | lovely.. he just did a two year trade in his. but i think things work different in our education structure | 02:10 |
| sean-laptop | trades and certificates take two years and you have to take them at a trade school.. degrees are 4 to 5 and have to be at a university | 02:11 |
| sean-laptop | i wouldnt mind learning that stuff | 02:11 |
| sean-laptop | i mostly just fool around with what i have and hack video game systems | 02:11 |
| sean-laptop | like the wii and ps2 and xbox1 and psp | 02:12 |
| Raggs | do what ya enjoy | 02:12 |
| sean-laptop | softmods | 02:12 |
| sean-laptop | oh yeah | 02:12 |
| sean-laptop | well i am in canada so file sharing is legal.. and so isw downloading games.. kinda.. as long as you dont get caught | 02:12 |
| sean-laptop | lol | 02:12 |
| sean-laptop | ;) | 02:12 |
| sean-laptop | i use the psp for emulators and the xbox for playing movies off my network with XBMC | 02:13 |
| Raggs | i dont game | 02:14 |
| sean-laptop | oh? i dont too much.. my nephews do. its a great babysitter when you have as many games as a japanese arcade lol | 02:14 |
| Raggs | sean-laptop, i dont watch my neices and nephews | 02:18 |
| sean-laptop | Raggs, well i am kind of a father figure to them.. we are rather close.. and i am the only one without children among my siblings | 02:20 |
| Raggs | i see, my nearest niece and nephews are near 30 | 02:20 |
| Raggs | sean-laptop, i am a grandfather figure to a little boy | 02:26 |
| sean-laptop | Raggs, thats always cool | 02:33 |
| sean-laptop | how old r u then? | 02:33 |
| Raggs | 45 | 02:33 |
| sean-laptop | nice.. i am 31 lol | 02:34 |
| Raggs | 31 is still young | 02:36 |
| sean-laptop | yeah it is.. feel old some days | 02:38 |
| Raggs | me too | 02:38 |
| sean-laptop | yeah but young some days lo | 02:40 |
| sean-laptop | lol | 02:40 |
| Raggs | true enough | 02:42 |
| sean-laptop | hence the kids and video games.. they also love the angry video game nerd on youtube.. i showed it to them | 02:43 |
| sean-laptop | lol | 02:43 |
| Raggs | i hope this distro works well for you | 02:45 |
| sean-laptop | Raggs, i hope so too.. it has so far.. are you using Lucid? | 02:46 |
| Raggs | yes | 02:46 |
| sean-laptop | nice.. i am debating trying the beta for Maverick | 02:47 |
| Raggs | when it is released why not | 02:48 |
| sean-laptop | yeah. the alpha is out now but i am debating still.. but i love lucid .. nice and fast | 02:48 |
| Raggs | and a LTS | 02:48 |
| sean-laptop | welcome Bitwraith | 02:49 |
| BitWraith | is there any way to change the wallpaper besides right clicking the desktop? | 02:49 |
| sean-laptop | now do you mean the desktop or the login screen wallpaper? | 02:49 |
| BitWraith | sean-laptop, either one will work for my purposes | 02:50 |
| Raggs | Bit in settings | 02:50 |
| BitWraith | I am using a different window manager, and this one uses a fake root window, so the background in programs like xchat is not the same as the actual background | 02:51 |
| sean-laptop | well you can set a wallpaper for the desktop just by going to your desired folder where the picture is .. rightclicking it and selecting set as wallpaper | 02:51 |
| BitWraith | come to think of it, I had my background set in xfce before, so if that was all I needed then I would not still be having this problem. | 02:52 |
| Raggs | brb sean-laptop | 02:52 |
| sean-laptop | ok | 02:52 |
| sean-laptop | BitWraith, so the right click does not give you the option? | 02:53 |
| BitWraith | sean-laptop, I don't have that same menu anymore | 02:53 |
| BitWraith | and, as I said, I really do need to change the OTHER background | 02:53 |
| BitWraith | when I said that either one would work, that was my mistake | 02:54 |
| sean-laptop | so you are using xfce., but what is your windows manager? | 02:54 |
| BitWraith | no, I am not using xfce anymore | 02:55 |
| BitWraith | xfce was my old window manager | 02:55 |
| BitWraith | I'm actually using E17 now. | 02:55 |
| BitWraith | (with Ecomorph, which is unspeakably awesome btw) | 02:56 |
| sean-laptop | i dont have any experiance with that.. still using Thunar | 02:56 |
| sean-laptop | the crappy part is almost no one is here at the moment. well no one to respond | 02:58 |
| sean-laptop | :P | 02:58 |
| sean-laptop | did you see if there was a forum for E17 or another channel? | 02:59 |
| BitWraith | there is #e on this network, they don't seem to know of any way to make E17 set up the background used with psuedo-transparency | 03:00 |
| BitWraith | so I'm right back to trying to set it using something other than E | 03:00 |
| sean-laptop | compositing? | 03:01 |
| sean-laptop | you mean something other than E or XFCE | 03:01 |
| BitWraith | I actually do have compositing, but the type of transparency I am talking about is fake transparency used by apps like xchat | 03:02 |
| sean-laptop | oh.. well then | 03:02 |
| sean-laptop | i just use XFCEs compositing.. cause i need it to run Cairo-Dock | 03:03 |
| BitWraith | my point is, xchat doesn't use an alpha channel | 03:03 |
| sean-laptop | that sucks.. | 03:03 |
| sean-laptop | try a different server? | 03:04 |
| BitWraith | so it doesn't matter what compositing I use elsewhere | 03:04 |
| BitWraith | ... I'm starting to wonder if I'm talking to a robot | 03:04 |
| BitWraith | lol | 03:04 |
| sean-laptop | lemme see what i can dig up | 03:04 |
| sean-laptop | you say you are using Ecomorph? | 03:05 |
| BitWraith | yes | 03:05 |
| sean-laptop | ok | 03:06 |
| sean-laptop | lemme look some more | 03:06 |
| sean-laptop | try ere? | 03:06 |
| sean-laptop | i mean try here? | 03:06 |
| sean-laptop | http://code.google.com/p/itask-module/wiki/EcomorphFaq | 03:06 |
| Raggs | is ecomorph an *ubuntu app? | 03:07 |
| BitWraith | not exactly | 03:08 |
| BitWraith | I followed these instructions: http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/install-enlightenment-e17-in-ubuntu.html | 03:08 |
| BitWraith | they call for me to add a repo that is maintained by the E devs | 03:08 |
| sean-laptop | well it also said that E17 is not in release yet.. are you uning the alpha? | 03:09 |
| Raggs | sean-laptop, E has been developing 17 for a loooong time | 03:10 |
| BitWraith | the word "alpha" has a couple of different meanings in this context. | 03:10 |
| sean-laptop | yeah i guess.. kinda like Fluxbuntu.. (still only supporting 9.04 yet i think ) | 03:10 |
| BitWraith | when I said "alpha" I meant that there is a fourth color channel that controls how opaque or transparent a window is | 03:11 |
| Raggs | BitWraith, but with something like this you could probably get more educated ideas from their channel, if they have one | 03:11 |
| sean-laptop | yeah i know.. i tried searching.. unless they are on another server | 03:11 |
| BitWraith | they do, and I consulted them | 03:11 |
| BitWraith | when I tried this on Gentoo, I was able to fix it with esetroot, but you guys don't have a pakcage for that | 03:12 |
| BitWraith | gsetroot comes close, but I don't quite have the positioning right yet | 03:13 |
| sean-laptop | yeah .. no source to compile for esetroot?> | 03:14 |
| Raggs | BitWraith, what did they say when you contacted them? | 03:14 |
| sean-laptop | i never.. deep googling | 03:15 |
| sean-laptop | thats how i have to yield most of my info | 03:15 |
| BitWraith | they said that E17 doesn't change the fake transparency background, and neither E17 nor xchat set up the alpha channel | 03:16 |
| Raggs | that is helpful | 03:16 |
| BitWraith | in other words, what I am trying to do is impossible, unless some other software is added to set up fake transparency | 03:17 |
| BitWraith | I finally got gsetroot to work though | 03:17 |
| Raggs | hsetroot i guess might be possible | 03:17 |
| sean-laptop | yeah it says only ecomorph can do what you are asking from what i read | 03:17 |
| BitWraith | ... | 03:17 |
| BitWraith | no | 03:17 |
| Raggs | no? | 03:18 |
| BitWraith | ecomorph does NOT set up the alpha channel either | 03:18 |
| sean-laptop | oh sorry my bad | 03:18 |
| BitWraith | it only sets up the screen to disply transparent windows... the windows then have to make THEMSELVES partially transparent | 03:18 |
| Raggs | and the folks at E say what you are trying is impossible | 03:19 |
| BitWraith | well, I asked them about changing the alpha channel, not about the fake transparency | 03:19 |
| BitWraith | fake transparency works, now that I found gsetroot I am using it now | 03:20 |
| BitWraith | I wish xchat could set the alpha channel though | 03:20 |
| sean-laptop | yeah.. try another irc client? | 03:21 |
| Raggs | sean-laptop, good patience | 03:39 |
| sean-laptop | Raggs, huh? lol | 03:40 |
| Raggs | with BitWraith | 03:40 |
| sean-laptop | Raggs, i guess so | 03:40 |
| sean-laptop | thank god i had a beer in hand lol | 03:41 |
| Raggs | he was not very forthcoming with information | 03:41 |
| sean-laptop | Raggs, yeah.. used to that.. when i was in school last year i was the Site Admin for my local internet communuty access site | 03:42 |
| sean-laptop | with that and friends needin tech help i am used to cryptic info | 03:42 |
| Raggs | the whole not supported app thing would have ben good to know | 03:43 |
| sean-laptop | yeah i know.. | 03:45 |
| sean-laptop | kinda was barking up the wrong tree here | 03:45 |
| sean-laptop | if he had gotten rid of XFCE then there was no point in coming in here | 03:45 |
| sean-laptop | thats like going to toyota to get a hyundai fixed | 03:45 |
| Raggs | well it is like shoving a hyundai motor in a toyota and asking toyota to fix it | 03:46 |
| sean-laptop | my thoughts exactly | 03:48 |
| sean-laptop | thats like having issues with kde and comin here.. if that was the case then go to #kubuntu | 03:49 |
| Raggs | you would think, or kde | 03:49 |
| sean-laptop | yeah | 03:50 |
| sean-laptop | meh.. i guess he realized it was futile after a while | 03:50 |
| sean-laptop | what got me was him saying that he felt like he was tlaking to a robot | 03:50 |
| Raggs | sean-laptop, i would have stopped then | 03:50 |
| sean-laptop | Raggs, i guess but i am used to helping the inept | 03:51 |
| sean-laptop | :P | 03:51 |
| sean-laptop | but what some do not realize is that a nice google search and some patience can go a long way | 03:51 |
| sean-laptop | thats how i learned how to install chromium on my own | 03:52 |
| Raggs | sean-laptop, i dont mind helping the inept, being insulted by them irks me however | 03:52 |
| sean-laptop | long before i came here | 03:52 |
| sean-laptop | have you ever tried puppy linux? | 03:52 |
| sean-laptop | it was slackware based then made from scratch.. now its on its own but uses packages from lucid.. its nice and lightweight.. great for old hardware | 03:53 |
| Raggs | i have used puppy | 03:53 |
| sean-laptop | and yes.. some people do not realize that they should not bite the hand that feeds them | 03:53 |
| sean-laptop | i have puppy 5 and puppy arcade 8 | 03:53 |
| Raggs | it was Debian based | 03:53 |
| sean-laptop | puppy arcade is good for emulators | 03:53 |
| sean-laptop | everything from the spectrum to mame to nintendo.. and even ScummVM | 03:55 |
| Raggs | emulating what? | 03:55 |
| sean-laptop | only thing that it dont come with are roms | 03:55 |
| Raggs | i am heading out, good talking to ya sean-laptop, hope to chat again, you know where i am | 03:57 |
| sean-laptop | sure thing pal.. nice meeting you] | 03:58 |
| robertzaccour | will 10.10 have a new theme? | 07:48 |
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| robertzaccour | will 10.10 have a new theme? | 08:13 |
| nikolam | What do you think it is best SMB/samba client to connect and transfer files to/from windows desktop? | 11:33 |
| ablomen | nikolam, i find mounting the samba share (with cifs) work best for me | 11:39 |
| nikolam | ablomen, i want to give eeepc nbook to a girl and I need GUI to give her so she can transfer her files | 11:52 |
| ablomen | ah ehm except for pyneighborhood (which never worked for me) i don't know of any app that let's you browse the network like nautilus does | 11:53 |
| ablomen | but you could try it, have not used it for ages | 11:54 |
| ablomen | or you could install nautilus, but among other problems it will steal your desktop if you are not careful and having two file managers is gonna be kind of confusing | 11:54 |
| TheSheep | ablomen: there is gigolo | 11:56 |
| ablomen | TheSheep, yes but that does not browse the network (not here anyway) | 11:57 |
| TheSheep | ablomen: strange, I think it should | 11:57 |
| ablomen | might be because i am on 9.10 (which uses gigolo 3.2) | 11:57 |
| ablomen | ehm 0.3.2 | 11:58 |
| ablomen | ah yes 0.4 looks a lot different | 11:59 |
| Sysi | i didn't have problems with nautilus | 11:59 |
| ablomen | nikolam, ok, so like TheSheep suggested, try gigolo (might be called Remote Filesystems in the System menu) | 11:59 |
| ablomen | ah, lol, ok so there is a "Show 'browse network' side panel" setting in gigolo which is turned off (?) in 9.10 | 12:00 |
| ablomen | TheSheep, it does indeed browse the network when you check the option | 12:01 |
| slow-motion | hi | 12:02 |
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| slow-motion | bye | 15:31 |
| kunsole | hello. Is there something like Skippy for Gnome and Exposé for OS X for Xubuntu? | 16:48 |
| Sysi | no, if you're not gonna use compiz | 16:50 |
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| xubuntu495 | I just got to say that this is pretty nifty! A chatlink while installing Xubuntu, what will you think of next?! | 19:15 |
| gebjgd | hello guys, what about the bug of the backlight changing under xubuntu? | 23:18 |
| gebjgd | is there a solution for that? | 23:18 |
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