[00:04] <leonel> ouch .. launchpad readonly ..
[00:05] <leonel> I've just made an upload .. that upload is lost or on queue ?
[00:09] <spm> leonel: if it didn't get bounced more or less straight away or terminated part way thru; it should be queued
[00:10] <leonel> spm: all went fine ..  I hope is queued ..
[00:10] <leonel> spm: thanks
[00:11] <spm> heh, np. tho I emphasise the 'should' ;-)
[00:11] <leonel> I know but I'll emphasise  hope :-P
[00:11] <spm> wfm!
[00:12] <leonel> thanks ..
[00:12] <leonel> I'll wait for the launchpad  mail or to see the package on the PPA
[00:12] <leonel> spm thanks
[00:34] <wgrant> lamont: Sorry, here now.
[00:40]  * spm waves hi to wgrant
[00:40] <wgrant> Morning spm.
[01:32] <Meths> Chex: Not removing the bit about being read-only?
[01:32] <Chex> Meths: meh, good point
[02:14] <michaelh1> Hi there.  I'm trying the PPA system for the first time and have gotten through to the dput/upload stage
[02:15] <michaelh1> What's the next step past there?  It's uploaded but doesn't show in my PPA archive and there's no obvious 'your build is pending' message
[06:05] <poolie> oops
[06:05] <poolie> for anyone who was wondering, the answer is that there's a delay and then you get a mail back
[06:14] <Damascene> hi,
[06:14] <poolie> hi Damascene
[06:15] <Damascene> the way icons on my page looks like it's calling me to change it every time with this big yellow buttons
[06:15] <Damascene> https://launchpad.net/~user
[06:15] <poolie> oh next to email, wiki, etc?
[06:15] <poolie> i agree :)
[06:15] <Damascene> yeah
[06:16] <poolie> you can file a bug or you can try to fix it
[06:16] <poolie> also https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+bug/552629 is ugly
[06:16] <Damascene> how can I fix it? I'm just a launchpad user
[06:17] <poolie> you can get the source and contribute changes
[06:17] <poolie> https://dev.launchpad.net/
[06:18] <Damascene> ok. I wish I got that skill
[06:18] <Damascene> I'll file a bug
[06:20] <poolie> you can just comment on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+bug/387776
[08:44] <fradeve1> hi boys --- is the Ubuntu keyserver on? I'm waiting to get a public key from this link: http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xB996A12CBD522A9BCDD3812D462D93B06482E056&op=index but nothing happens... :(
[08:48] <maxb> fradeve1: Use pool.sks-keyservers.net as an alternative
[08:49] <fradeve1> maxb: I'll try, thanks
[08:50] <fradeve1> maxb: it works! great, thanks again :)
[10:21] <Laney> do sftp uploads work for the main archive too?
[10:23] <jpds> Yes.
[10:24] <Laney> groovy
[10:53] <falktx> hi guys!
[10:54] <falktx> i can't add any new gpg keys
[10:54] <falktx> keyserver.ubuntu.com seems offline for me
[10:54] <geser> Laney: you might need "incoming = ubuntu" in your .dput.cf stance for the main archive with SFTP
[10:55] <Laney> geser: have you tried it?
[10:56] <geser> Laney: yes, I've successfully uploaded to my PPA and the main archive with sftp already
[10:56] <Laney> with the different incoming?
[10:57] <geser> yes, with the same incoming like in [ubuntu] the sftp upload will fail (at least it did in the past)
[10:59] <Laney> ok, /me changes
[11:00] <geser> I got an "open failed" error when I tried to upload with sftp to the main archive without this change
[11:16] <MrRandom> There is somewhere 'help wanted to project' on Launchpad?
[12:20] <Quintasan> james_w: ping
[13:54] <ScottK> Can projects opt out of using "opinion"?
[13:56] <deryck> ScottK, no, sorry.
[13:56] <deryck> ScottK, well, you can't disable the status.  But you certainly don't have to make use of it.
[13:57] <ScottK> deryck: Right, but bug reporters can and I can't stop that.
[13:57] <nigelb> deryck: its available to bug supervisors only?
[13:57] <deryck> nigelb, no, it's available to anyone to use, like Invalid.
[13:57] <nigelb> oh, ugh :(
[13:57] <ScottK> The problem being bugs where lots of people are implicitly subscribed and they are stuck with more useless bugmail.
[13:58] <ScottK> nigelb: It's a forum now, not a bug tracker.
[13:58] <nigelb> while it is indeed a good idea, it would be nice to have implcit subscribers to unsubscribe from opinion bugs
[13:58] <nigelb> we really don't want to get flooded with whats useless :/
[13:58] <deryck> ScottK, assuming it gets used like that.  It's a 3 month experiment to see.  If it's noise and not useful, we will most certainly drop the status.
[13:58] <nigelb> ScottK: +1
[13:59] <deryck> nigelb, ScottK -- I believe the assumption is not that there will be anymore discussion then normal, but that this makes a nicer way of saying won't fix, while the remaining comments trickle out.
[13:59] <ScottK> deryck: I wish you'd fixed unsubscribing from implicitly subscribed bugs first.  Then I wouldn't have to care so much.
[14:00] <deryck> ScottK, fair enough.  But we're working on that, too.  The status just went in first by virtue of it was easier to complete the work.
[14:00] <MrRandom>  There is somewhere 'help wanted to project' on Launchpad?
[14:00] <ScottK> deryck: The mistake you've made is that wontfix and invalid ARE attempts to close down discussion.  It's correct to see them that way.
[14:01] <ScottK> It's a bug tracker, not a discussion forum.
[14:01] <deryck> ScottK, I don't think everyone using Launchpad would agree with you on that.  But it's a fair point that for some that is true.
[14:01] <ScottK> I agree that (quoting from the announcement) "people are free to continue the discussion", but elsewhere.
[14:02] <ScottK> deryck: I don't see how saying "people are free to continue the discussion" won't result in more discussion than normal.
[14:03] <deryck> ScottK, can we just see how it goes for 3 months? :-)  There's no need to lobby me about it.  I have good stats in place to see what happens.  And if it's just noise and the quality of the discussion is not worthwhile, then we'll abandon it.  I promise. :-)
[14:03] <deryck> ScottK, I certainly welcome continued feedback about it, though.  About how it's actually being used.
[14:03] <ScottK> deryck: Just decide if it's going to create more discussion or not.  You've said it's not here and it will in the blog.
[14:04] <deryck> ScottK, no, I'm not saying both.  I said people can "continue" a discussion.  That implies one is already in place.  I'm suggesting here that this is already happening.
[14:11] <nigelb> deryck: actually, most of our frustration is from not able to unsub from implicitly subscribed bugs, once that's fixed we're all very happy :)
[14:11] <jcastro> abentley: http://www.lottanzb.org/2010/07/lottanzb-0-6-daily-builds-available/
[14:13] <abentley> jcastro, so it begins :-)
[14:13] <james_w> Quintasan: you should ask your question, it would speed things up
[14:14] <jcastro> abentley: all on their own!
[14:15] <abentley> jcastro, I guess this means the feature will be popular :-)
[14:15] <jcastro> abentley: Mine haven't worked yet. :(
[14:16] <abentley> jcastro, are you building for Maverick?
[14:16] <jcastro> yes
[14:16] <abentley> Maverick doesn't work yet.  Dependency problems because aptitude is no longer in ubuntu-minimal.
[14:17] <jcastro> oh ok, I'll find a package that builds in lucid then
[14:17] <abentley> jcastro, bug #599102
[14:18] <jcastro> abentley: ah, that's the lottanzb guy who reported the bug
[14:18] <jcastro> excellent
[14:30] <Quintasan> james_w: oh my sorry, I totally forgot
[14:30] <Quintasan> james_w: I have a problem with {revno} in my recipe
[14:31] <Quintasan> it won't expand
[14:31] <Quintasan> result directory name is project-neon-qt_1.0+{revno}
[14:50] <james_w> Quintasan: and the resulting changelog entry has what?
[15:00] <Quintasan> james_w: it has no newer entries
[15:00] <Quintasan> james_w: I have added one beforehand to check if it works but it doesn't :(
[15:00] <james_w> Quintasan: build log please
[15:04] <Quintasan> james_w: I can't provide you with one since Riddells computer died
[15:04] <james_w> Quintasan: well, if you can't give me more details about the failure then I'm afraid I can't help
[15:05] <Quintasan> james_w: well, it's not a failure but it just creates an directory named <package>-{revno} instead of revision number and throws no errors
[15:05] <james_w> Quintasan: that's expected
[15:06] <Quintasan> james_w: -v throws nothing new
[15:06] <Quintasan> i.e log looks exacly the same
[15:07] <james_w> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~james-w/bzr-builder/trunk/annotate/head:/cmds.py#L410
[15:07] <Quintasan> by the way, the whole dailydeb will automatically add a newer changelog entry?
[15:08] <Quintasan> ah
[15:08] <Quintasan> okay
[19:47] <soren> I think I've found a security hole in Launchpad. Who should I talk to?
[19:47] <lifeless> -> privmsg
[19:58] <lifeless> for observers - don't think its a hole, just unexplained behaviour ;0
[20:00] <lifeless> soren: I'm advised - see planet.
[20:04] <bdmurray> I'd like to edit help.launchpad.net and it is telling me I'm not allowed and I'm logged in
[20:18] <maxb> bdmurray: I believe you must join the launchpad-doc team (and wait to be approved)
[20:33] <Iola> Hi is there a help contact at the moment?
[20:34] <lifeless> next one starts in about 90 minutes
[20:34] <lifeless> whats up ?
[20:39] <Iola> lifeless: I can wait until then if you like
[21:51] <owek> on login.launchpad.net is it possible to remove an e-mail address?
[21:51] <owek> not my launchpad profile, the openid login.. url is login.launchpad.net
[21:51] <owek> i only see edit, where i can add more addresses.. but i need to remove an old one that someone else is using
[22:07] <kiko> oh I knew that one
[22:08] <kiko> rats!
[22:59] <ioki> Hi is there a help contact around?
[23:15] <thumper> ioki: what's up?