[01:34] <mediacenter> I have an acer aspire 3810TZ that has an atheros wireless N built in and was running Windows Vista Home Premium. With Windows I got 130mbs. Now I am running Ubuntu 10.4 and I get only 1mbs or unknown. Does anyone know how to fix this problem?
[01:37] <Sensiva> mediacenter I guess you need to ask in #Ubuntu
[01:50] <mediacenter> I have an acer aspire 3810TZ that has an atheros wireless N built in and was running Windows Vista Home Premium. With Windows I got 130mb/s. Now I am running Ubuntu 10.4 and I get only 1mb/s or unknown. Does anyone know how to fix this problem?
[01:56] <bazhang> mediacenter, this channel is for 10.10 not 10.04
[01:56] <mediacenter> Bazhang: It's the same issue on 10.10
[01:57] <bazhang> mediacenter, you mention 10.04 in your post; that is for #ubuntu
[01:58] <mediacenter> Bazhang: I know but I have the same problem on both versions
[02:34] <bbordwell> Is anyone else getting EXTREMELY slow update-manger start up times?
[02:35] <IdleOne> bbordwell: just tested and took less then 5 seconds
[02:36] <bbordwell> IdleOne, hmm for me it sticks on building dependency tree for about 2 minutes with 100% cpu usage on one core
[02:37] <IdleOne> nope no issue here and as a matter of fact I think the upgrade in progress is going to fix my calculator bug I reported earlier
[02:39] <bbordwell> hmm It happened from an upgrade, then just now I did a fresh install and it happened again.
[02:40] <bbordwell> I guess i will get working on a good bug report
[02:44] <bbordwell> I do not seem to be able to find a man page for update-manger does anyone know where i could find it?
[02:45] <holstein> not much to man update-manager eh?
[02:47] <IdleOne> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/en/man8/update-manager.8.html
[02:47] <bbordwell> eh never mind --help worked
[02:47] <IdleOne> doesn't seem to have man pages for maverick yet
[04:46] <Jordan_U> xulrunner has been configuring for an hour now, any ideas?
[06:55] <aaronwball> I have a question about how to get some information regarding a problem with Maverick's wifi on an intel chipset.
[06:55] <aaronwball> Any command line gurus have a few seconds?
[06:56] <bilalakhtar> hello people, I am upgrading my system from lucid to maverick. Is maverick somewhat stable? or it crashes very often?
[06:57] <aaronwball> Hi bilalakhtar...I'm no guru here but have been testing ubuntu alphas and betas for about a year now.
[06:58] <aaronwball> I've tested maverick live and persistent and it seems to be stable to me.
[06:58] <bilalakhtar> aaronwball: I am ready to take care of small crashes. But sys breakups like kernel panics?
[06:59] <bilalakhtar> I hope not.
[08:12] <robertzaccour> is there gonna be a new theme for Xubuntu?
[08:18] <robertzaccour> is there gonna be a new theme for Xubuntu?
[08:49] <robertzaccour> is there gonna be a new theme for Xubuntu?
[09:27] <the_student> Are there any major show-stoppers in nightly?
[09:40] <BUGabundo_remote> the_student: why don't you try and let us know? :)
[09:41] <BUGabundo_remote> I haven't seen much breakage recently
[09:41] <BUGabundo_remote> other then the uterly slowdown system with unknown root cause
[10:28] <coz_> hey guys.. has progress been made on maveick for installing official nvidia drivers... wallpaper options working... external hard drives with multiple partitions right click unmount with no cache errors..
[10:36] <funcqshun> hello, i have a bug in maverick, can anyone help me please?
[10:37] <bazhang> funcqshun, have you filed it yet?
[10:37] <bazhang> !bugs
[10:38] <funcqshun> everything was running fine, then i made the bottom panel orientation to be on top, and then it was fine as well. when i rebooted the next morning gnome panel was all fucked up, i can barely use it. i havent filed yet since i can only use one application at a time in an xterm session. please help!
[10:39] <bazhang> funcqshun, please file a bug, and also thanks for watching the language
[11:08] <DrHalan> is firefox 3.7 the same as 4.0 on windows?
[11:36] <DrHalan> is anyone else experiencing freezes of x?
[13:09] <funcqshun> hello, when i try to connect to an ftp server via nautilus i get this: 'DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)'. Any solutions?
[13:11] <DrHalan> funcqshun: are you sure the server is there? i mean it could be an ftp error
[13:12] <DrHalan> maybe try another (public) server
[13:12] <funcqshun> and, is there a replacement in the meanwihle to access files on a remote server via ftp or ssh and get it to play nicely with nautilus and gedit?
[13:12] <funcqshun> yes, the server is most definitely there, since i can ssh and ftp in via terminal
[13:13] <funcqshun> further, i just tried via gftp and it works, but not via nautilus. anyone knows why?
[15:26] <iceman_3233> hello
[15:27] <iceman_3233> getting this error? W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/bisigi/ppa/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[15:28] <iceman_3233> says it's broken?
[15:28] <iceman_3233> bisigi
[15:30] <Daekdroom> iceman_3233, bisigi PPA currently doesn't have maverick packages.
[15:30] <iceman_3233> how can I remove?
[15:30] <iceman_3233> in terminal
[15:31] <Daekdroom> System > Adm > Software Channels > Other software > unmark the bisigi
[15:31] <Daekdroom> Oh.
[15:31] <Daekdroom> sudo ppa-purge ppa:bisigi/ppa
[15:31] <Daekdroom> But that'll also remove all bisigi packages
[15:31] <iceman_3233> I'll try the first one. Thank you so much
[15:46] <Chipaca> is today a good day to take my main box to M?
[15:47] <Ian_corne> any day is a good day to screw up your main install!
[15:47] <Ian_corne> I've done it yesterday
[15:48] <Ian_corne> only had some ati issues, which were fixed by uninstalling fglrx and installing the os driver
[15:48] <Chipaca> 64 bits?\
[15:48] <Ian_corne> yes
[15:49] <Ian_corne> npbviewer crashed a few times already (nothing new) and nautilus once and telepathy-butterfly
[15:53] <BluesKaj> interesting , this pc is supposedly an amd64 cpu , but 64bit ubuntu won't install on it
[15:54] <BluesKaj> I have 32 bit installed ok
[15:54] <Ian_corne> weird
[15:54] <Ian_corne> daily 64 bit broken?
[15:54] <Ian_corne> or is this lucid?
[15:55] <BluesKaj> nope maverick
[17:37] <Daekdroom> There is some serious problem with maverick RAM usage.
[18:05] <Draglor> I got kde 4.5 rc1 installed (kubuntu 10.04) but I can't copy large files (reproducable on an 170 MB file) to a vfat formatted disk usind kde (or even usind console if automounted by KDE) the only way to copy for me is mounting the device manually as root and copy then. Does anyone have the same issue maybe even a solution? (The file is partly copied, but hangs at random copied MB, sometimes it copys the full file, but doesn't finish it and hangs at
[18:05] <Draglor>  0 seconds, if I try to read this file it's broken) ... I can copy small files, but it fails at large files
[18:08] <Chipaca> Draglor: when automounted, what does 'mount' print out?
[18:09] <Draglor> The permissions are right
[18:10] <Draglor> I can copy files .. but files > 150 MB don't finish (even not by mv or cp on console)
[18:11] <Draglor> /dev/sdb1 on /media/2GB_SD type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,uid=1000,utf8,shortname=mixed,flush)
[18:11] <Chipaca> that seems ok
[18:15] <Draglor> it is ok
[18:15] <Draglor> I can copy, I can remove, I can do anything on this drive, but I can't copy lalrge files to it
[18:16] <Draglor> If I mount it manually (using mount as root) it works
[18:34] <Draglor> noone any hint?
[18:46] <Draglor> could anyone say if this is a kde or an ubuntu (kubuntu) issue?
[18:50] <Draglor> thx for your help guys ...
[18:50] <yofel> I don't have a vfat drive at hand to test it currently
[18:51] <yofel> could be KDE or HAL though from what you say
[18:51] <Draglor> I know
[18:51] <Draglor> or udev (used by HAL)
[18:52] <Draglor> but permissions are right (so it seems not to be udev or hal) as I can copy smaller files
[18:52] <Draglor> but by using console (where it does not work as well) it seems to be udev IMHO
[18:52] <Draglor> but using gnome it works
[18:53] <Draglor> so my belief is, that is it kde somehow
[18:54] <Draglor> I tried it on 4 boxes all having the same issue ....
[18:54] <Draglor> all running kubuntu (and kde rc1) (but on #kde there's no such issue
[18:55] <Draglor> well .. but this seems to be the wrong place to ask about this .. thanks for anyone trying to help ....
[18:57] <Draglor> this channel isn't really helpfull is it?
[18:58] <Ian_corne> omg
[18:58] <Ian_corne> please be more friendly
[18:58] <Ian_corne> and be patient
[18:59] <Ian_corne> you're not making it any more likely for someone to help you with those comments
[19:00] <Ian_corne> and you're here for 10.04 support?
[19:03] <Draglor> no 10.04 would be #ubuntu for me
[19:04] <Draglor> But I didn't expect any help here, I just asked inside here cause I was asked to ask here .... I knew before that it would be useless ....
[19:04] <Pici> Draglor: #ubuntu+1 is only for 10.10 support. Since you said you are using 10.04, you shouldn't be asking in this channel,.
[19:04] <Pici> Draglor: Who told you to ask here?
[19:04] <Draglor> that's why I didn't ask in äubuntu Pici
[19:05] <Draglor> a guy on twitter (I won't reveal his name nor nickname)
[19:05] <Draglor> I'm using maverick and kde 4.5 rc1
[19:05] <Draglor> Should I ask in #ubuntu?
[19:05] <Pici> Draglor: Thats not what you said earlier.
[19:06] <Draglor> what did I say earlier?
[19:06] <Pici> 13:05:35 <Draglor> I got kde 4.5 rc1 installed (kubuntu 10.04)....
[19:06] <Draglor> oh sorry just read it .. it's 10.10 not 10.04
[19:06] <Draglor> but just thanks for the help
[19:07] <Pici> Then this is the place to ask.  Sorry if that was confusing.
[19:07] <Draglor> This was my fault
[19:07] <Chipaca> is the cursor flickering like crazy a known issue?
[19:08] <Draglor> But I didn't want to ask here .... I knew why (same for #kde) ;) I was "forced" by some guys on twitter to say it here .. they said anyone here might help (what wasn't my experience)
[19:09] <Draglor> And isn't my experience now as well
[19:09] <yofel> right now asking for kubuntu support is a bit of a bad time anyway, as it's https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTutorialsDay today
[19:10] <Daekdroom> yofel, so we should expect all the kubuntu experienced people to be on that?
[19:10] <Daekdroom> *most of
[19:10] <yofel> propably
[19:12] <Draglor> Well ... I won't switch, but I'll advice others to use gnome (ubuntu) as it works on that
[19:40] <Draglor> well ... same on kde (in lucid)
[19:45] <edgy> Hi, I upgraded to maverick and the network manager tool looks as normal (enable wireless, manage connections, connect to other network), but from the livecd it looks much better with some graphs and more options, how can delete my old configs so I get this new look?
[20:23] <aliendude3500> hey guys, I have NOTHING open except for the Update Manager and XChat, and I still have 1.9GB/2GB of RAM in use. I think there is a major memory leak, but I'm not sure what it
[20:23] <aliendude3500> 's in. What should I do?
[20:23] <aliendude3500> sorry about that being two messages -- bumped enter by mistake
[20:24] <jag0> aliendude3500, #top, read man page to order by cpu... also ps can do it
[20:24] <aliendude3500> I'm in Ubuntu 10.10 Alpha 2 right now. I upgraded from Lucid with do-release-upgrade -d
[20:24] <jag0> aliendude3500, also, gnome-system-monitor
[20:24] <aliendude3500> jag0, I tried system monitor and nothing seemed to be using more than 30MB.
[20:25] <aliendude3500> also, I tried htop and the highest number for mem was 5.8
[20:25] <aliendude3500> htop is just like top but easier imho
[20:25] <jag0> alpha eh? no help from me then
[20:25] <jag0> hmm
[20:25] <zakscott> im having trouble with nvidia drivers and my ion chip in 10.10
[20:25] <aliendude3500> I think there is a kernel memory leak
[20:26] <aliendude3500> even as root, I couldn't find an offending process
[20:26] <Pici> aliendude3500: How much ram is being used by buffers/cache? see the output from; free -m
[20:26] <aliendude3500> Everything seemed to be using low ram
[20:26] <aliendude3500> Pici: 323588
[20:26] <jag0> aliendude3500, I also have only 60mb free and only running a few things
[20:26] <zakscott> anyone have success with nvidia drivers in maverick and an nvidia ion chip?
[20:26] <aliendude3500> Then it's certainly a memory leak...
[20:27] <aliendude3500> I have 30MB free right now. My system is often freezing momentarily
[20:27] <aliendude3500> zakscott: we read your message once, don't bother reposting it, it clutters chat.
[20:27] <jag0> I use free -m and I also am using 1.8gb mem only running xchat and terminals . do we think this is similar to the 99% cpu thing in windows? ok i gotta go
[20:28] <Pici> huh?
[20:28] <aliendude3500> jag0: I'm running the same things as you. Yeah, it seems to be a common issue
[20:29] <aliendude3500> is there a way to dump my memory to a file? I have a 1.5TB hard disk, I can afford to waste space...
[20:29] <edgy> Hi, I upgraded to maverick and the network manager tool looks as normal (enable wireless, manage connections, connect to other network), but from the livecd it looks much better with some graphs and more options, how can delete my old configs so I get this new look?
[20:29] <aliendude3500> I just want to be able to look at each process and see what's using the most ram
[20:30] <aliendude3500> zakscott: Try installing the noveau drivers. That's better than nothing. I think they should work with your card. I have an ATI, so I wouldn't know...
[20:31] <aliendude3500> edgy: try pressing ctrl+h in your home directory. That should show hidden files.
[20:32] <aliendude3500> edgy: then delete these folders:
[20:32] <aliendude3500> ... sec ...
[20:32] <edgy> aliendude3500: those files contains my important 100000000 mails
[20:32] <edgy> aliendude3500: and lots of other important stuff
[20:32] <aliendude3500> .gnome .gnome2 .gnome2_private .gconf .gconfd
[20:32] <aliendude3500> only delete the ones I listed.
[20:32] <edgy> aliendude3500: it's kde btw
[20:33] <aliendude3500> oh... KDE? dang.
[20:33] <aliendude3500> That would've worked in gnome.
[20:33] <TommyThaGun> why do I get a  Hash Sum mismatch
[20:33] <TommyThaGun> why do I get a  "Hash Sum mismatch" error when doing an apt-get update?
[20:33] <zakscott> aliendude3500 are the noveau drivers in the main repos?
[20:33] <aliendude3500> zakscott: they should be, let me check for you
[20:34] <aliendude3500> dang... so low memory my computer can barely browse the internet :(
[20:35] <aliendude3500> I think there is a ppa for the newer noveau drivers that work on more cards...
[20:35] <aliendude3500> zakscott: try this:
[20:35] <aliendude3500> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/nouveau
[20:35] <aliendude3500> sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[20:35] <aliendude3500> that might work, but I don't have an nvidia card to test it on.
[20:36] <aliendude3500> let me know if that works
[20:36] <zakscott> i tried installing nvidia-current
[20:36] <zakscott> to no avail :(
[20:36] <aliendude3500> noveau works better than the nvidia proprietary driver on newer kernels and versions of X.org
[20:36] <edgy> aliendude3500: do you have any idea whether ati fglrx works now?
[20:37] <aliendude3500> remove the nvidia-current driver and install noveau for now
[20:38] <aliendude3500> edgy: I have an old X1950 GT in the PC I'm on right now, and my card isn't supported anymore, but I do have another computer with an ATI  Radeon 4850HD card, but that's running Lucid. However, fglrx works fine on that pc.
[20:39] <aliendude3500> I know the nvidia drivers don't work on the new version of the X server, so you have to use the noveau drivers if you're on maverick. I heard that the noveau drivers are getting closer and closer to matching the proprietary drivers performance
[20:39] <edgy> aliendude3500: I am asking whether fglrx works with maverick
[20:40] <aliendude3500> edgy: I know that... I don't have an answer for you, but I'd assume it's not yet updated for the new X server yet.
[20:41] <edgy> aliendude3500: ok thanks
[20:42] <aliendude3500> I'd test it with my other computer, but it's very important that that computer works right now, as I have a lot of important files on it. sorry...
[20:42] <aliendude3500> zakscott: any luck with noveau?
[20:43] <bjsnider> nouveau will not be matching the 3d performance of the nvidia driver any time soon
[20:43] <bjsnider> 2d is good though
[20:43] <zakscott> aliendude3500: cant get that apt-repo to go through
[20:44] <zakscott> but i did find xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[20:44] <zakscott> aliendude3500: should i run nvidia-xconfig now?
[20:45] <aliendude3500> I think nvidia-xconfig is part of the proprietary driver, not noveau...
[20:45] <aliendude3500> I wouldn't suggest that if the proprietary driver isn't working for you
[20:45] <zakscott> device driver "nvidia"?
[20:45] <zakscott> or should i put nouveau
[20:46] <aliendude3500> Umm... let me check
[20:48] <bjsnider> all you need to do to use nouveau is remove the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and uninstall nvidia-current
[20:50] <aliendude3500> really? I think you have to set it in    /etc/X11/xorg.conf if you installed the proprietary driver before, since that changes settings...
[20:50] <bjsnider> no, if you remove that file it uses the default driver for that platform, which is nouveau
[21:04] <Draglor> aliendude3500: xorg conf isn't used anymore .. it's settings are generated by udev(hal
[21:05] <Draglor> it's only used by old setups .. on actual systems it is not there anymore
[21:05] <Ian_corne> new kernel update inc
[21:05] <Ian_corne> Draglor: only for the OS drivers
[21:06] <Ian_corne> if you use fglrx or nvidia drivers, it'll require you to put an xorg
[21:06] <Ian_corne> the tools do it for you tho
[21:06] <Ian_corne> oh he was talking about the OS driver
[21:08] <Draglor> Ian_corne: OS drivers?
[21:08] <Draglor> KDE itself does use udev
[21:09] <Ian_corne> open source
[21:09] <Draglor> hm?
[21:09] <Ian_corne> hard mode?
[21:09] <Draglor> I use a proprietary nvidia card and I don't have an xorg.conf ...
[21:10] <Draglor> so how does this work?
[21:10] <Ian_corne> do you have the proprietary driver in use
[21:10] <Ian_corne> or nvidia?
[21:10] <Draglor> yes
[21:10] <Draglor> the prop driver
[21:10] <Draglor> but no xorg.conf
[21:10] <Ian_corne> weird then, my boxes don't work if I remove the xorg and try to use the driver
[21:10] <Draglor> as it's configured by hal/udev since 9.04
[21:11] <Ian_corne> I do have dual screens on my nvidia box
[21:11] <Draglor> there's no need for an xorg.conf anymore
[21:11] <Draglor> me too
[21:11] <Draglor> the former xorg.xonf is now generated by udev/hal
[21:12] <Ian_corne> wasn't hal being decommisioned?
[21:12] <Draglor> still there
[21:12] <TommyThaGun> hmm
[21:13] <Draglor> it is being deprecated by udev, but not yet
[21:14] <janisozaur> which version of gcc does maverick ship with?
[21:14] <TommyThaGun> when I upgraded to maverick, I was so unaware of any differences from lucid to maverick that I looked at System > About Ubuntu... and it still says Lucid Lynx
[21:15] <bazhang> !info gcc
[21:16] <janisozaur> hmm... any idea why not 4.5?
[21:16] <guntbert> TommyThaGun: changes "under the hood" come first I guess, UI only later
[21:16] <h00k> !info gcc maverick
[21:16] <h00k> oh, look. ubottu does maverick. I missed that.
[21:17] <janisozaur> !info gcc-4.5
[21:17] <janisozaur> ah, I see - it's optional
[21:54] <BUGabundo> humm
[21:55] <BUGabundo> system is looking more responsive now
[21:55] <BUGabundo> not sure what changed in todays updates
[21:55] <BUGabundo> to improve this
[21:57] <Daekdroom> BUGabundo, if I had to guess, I'd think it's Ubuntu One nautilus integration.
[21:57] <Ian_corne> :p
[21:58] <Daekdroom> They managed to break the linux-image-generic and linux-headers-generic packages O.O
[21:59] <BUGabundo> o.O
[21:59] <Daekdroom> Aptitude is holding them back.
[22:01] <BUGabundo> not here
[22:01] <Daekdroom> Hm..
[22:01] <BUGabundo> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[22:01] <Daekdroom> linux-image-generic version differs from the kernel package..
[22:02] <BUGabundo> Linux BluBUG 2.6.35-6-generic #9-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jul 1 03:01:23 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:02] <BUGabundo> !info linux
[22:03] <Daekdroom> Most recent version is 2.6.35.7.8 here
[22:03] <Ian_corne> It's not in the repo's yet I think
[22:03] <Ian_corne> Initializing package states... Done
[22:03] <Ian_corne> The following packages have been kept back: linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[22:04] <Daekdroom> well, linux, linux-generic, linux-headers-generic, linux-image-generic are
[22:04] <Daekdroom> The matching kernels, not so much
[22:31] <ripps> geez, they should have waited until linux-image-2.6.35.7 was ready before pushing linux-generic forward
[22:32] <ripps> it's not available for i386