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mediacenterI have an acer aspire 3810TZ that has an atheros wireless N built in and was running Windows Vista Home Premium. With Windows I got 130mbs. Now I am running Ubuntu 10.4 and I get only 1mbs or unknown. Does anyone know how to fix this problem?01:34
Sensivamediacenter I guess you need to ask in #Ubuntu01:37
mediacenterI have an acer aspire 3810TZ that has an atheros wireless N built in and was running Windows Vista Home Premium. With Windows I got 130mb/s. Now I am running Ubuntu 10.4 and I get only 1mb/s or unknown. Does anyone know how to fix this problem?01:50
bazhangmediacenter, this channel is for 10.10 not 10.0401:56
mediacenterBazhang: It's the same issue on 10.1001:56
bazhangmediacenter, you mention 10.04 in your post; that is for #ubuntu01:57
mediacenterBazhang: I know but I have the same problem on both versions01:58
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bbordwellIs anyone else getting EXTREMELY slow update-manger start up times?02:34
IdleOnebbordwell: just tested and took less then 5 seconds02:35
bbordwellIdleOne, hmm for me it sticks on building dependency tree for about 2 minutes with 100% cpu usage on one core02:36
IdleOnenope no issue here and as a matter of fact I think the upgrade in progress is going to fix my calculator bug I reported earlier02:37
bbordwellhmm It happened from an upgrade, then just now I did a fresh install and it happened again.02:39
bbordwellI guess i will get working on a good bug report02:40
bbordwellI do not seem to be able to find a man page for update-manger does anyone know where i could find it?02:44
holsteinnot much to man update-manager eh?02:45
IdleOnehttp://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/en/man8/update-manager.8.html02:47
bbordwelleh never mind --help worked02:47
IdleOnedoesn't seem to have man pages for maverick yet02:47
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Jordan_Uxulrunner has been configuring for an hour now, any ideas?04:46
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aaronwballI have a question about how to get some information regarding a problem with Maverick's wifi on an intel chipset.06:55
aaronwballAny command line gurus have a few seconds?06:55
bilalakhtarhello people, I am upgrading my system from lucid to maverick. Is maverick somewhat stable? or it crashes very often?06:56
aaronwballHi bilalakhtar...I'm no guru here but have been testing ubuntu alphas and betas for about a year now.06:57
aaronwballI've tested maverick live and persistent and it seems to be stable to me.06:58
bilalakhtaraaronwball: I am ready to take care of small crashes. But sys breakups like kernel panics?06:58
bilalakhtarI hope not.06:59
robertzaccouris there gonna be a new theme for Xubuntu?08:12
robertzaccouris there gonna be a new theme for Xubuntu?08:18
robertzaccouris there gonna be a new theme for Xubuntu?08:49
the_studentAre there any major show-stoppers in nightly?09:27
BUGabundo_remotethe_student: why don't you try and let us know? :)09:40
BUGabundo_remoteI haven't seen much breakage recently09:41
BUGabundo_remoteother then the uterly slowdown system with unknown root cause09:41
coz_hey guys.. has progress been made on maveick for installing official nvidia drivers... wallpaper options working... external hard drives with multiple partitions right click unmount with no cache errors..10:28
funcqshunhello, i have a bug in maverick, can anyone help me please?10:36
bazhangfuncqshun, have you filed it yet?10:37
bazhang!bugs10:37
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funcqshuneverything was running fine, then i made the bottom panel orientation to be on top, and then it was fine as well. when i rebooted the next morning gnome panel was all fucked up, i can barely use it. i havent filed yet since i can only use one application at a time in an xterm session. please help!10:38
bazhangfuncqshun, please file a bug, and also thanks for watching the language10:39
DrHalanis firefox 3.7 the same as 4.0 on windows?11:08
DrHalanis anyone else experiencing freezes of x?11:36
funcqshunhello, when i try to connect to an ftp server via nautilus i get this: 'DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)'. Any solutions?13:09
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DrHalanfuncqshun: are you sure the server is there? i mean it could be an ftp error13:11
DrHalanmaybe try another (public) server13:12
funcqshunand, is there a replacement in the meanwihle to access files on a remote server via ftp or ssh and get it to play nicely with nautilus and gedit?13:12
funcqshunyes, the server is most definitely there, since i can ssh and ftp in via terminal13:12
funcqshunfurther, i just tried via gftp and it works, but not via nautilus. anyone knows why?13:13
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iceman_3233hello15:26
iceman_3233getting this error? W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/bisigi/ppa/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found15:27
iceman_3233says it's broken?15:28
iceman_3233bisigi15:28
Daekdroomiceman_3233, bisigi PPA currently doesn't have maverick packages.15:30
iceman_3233how can I remove?15:30
iceman_3233in terminal15:30
DaekdroomSystem > Adm > Software Channels > Other software > unmark the bisigi15:31
DaekdroomOh.15:31
Daekdroomsudo ppa-purge ppa:bisigi/ppa15:31
DaekdroomBut that'll also remove all bisigi packages15:31
iceman_3233I'll try the first one. Thank you so much15:31
Chipacais today a good day to take my main box to M?15:46
Ian_corneany day is a good day to screw up your main install!15:47
Ian_corneI've done it yesterday15:47
Ian_corneonly had some ati issues, which were fixed by uninstalling fglrx and installing the os driver15:48
Chipaca64 bits?\15:48
Ian_corneyes15:48
Ian_cornenpbviewer crashed a few times already (nothing new) and nautilus once and telepathy-butterfly15:49
BluesKajinteresting , this pc is supposedly an amd64 cpu , but 64bit ubuntu won't install on it15:53
BluesKajI have 32 bit installed ok15:54
Ian_corneweird15:54
Ian_cornedaily 64 bit broken?15:54
Ian_corneor is this lucid?15:54
BluesKajnope maverick15:55
DaekdroomThere is some serious problem with maverick RAM usage.17:37
DraglorI got kde 4.5 rc1 installed (kubuntu 10.04) but I can't copy large files (reproducable on an 170 MB file) to a vfat formatted disk usind kde (or even usind console if automounted by KDE) the only way to copy for me is mounting the device manually as root and copy then. Does anyone have the same issue maybe even a solution? (The file is partly copied, but hangs at random copied MB, sometimes it copys the full file, but doesn't finish it and hangs at18:05
Draglor 0 seconds, if I try to read this file it's broken) ... I can copy small files, but it fails at large files18:05
ChipacaDraglor: when automounted, what does 'mount' print out?18:08
DraglorThe permissions are right18:09
DraglorI can copy files .. but files > 150 MB don't finish (even not by mv or cp on console)18:10
Draglor/dev/sdb1 on /media/2GB_SD type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,uid=1000,utf8,shortname=mixed,flush)18:11
Chipacathat seems ok18:11
Draglorit is ok18:15
DraglorI can copy, I can remove, I can do anything on this drive, but I can't copy lalrge files to it18:15
DraglorIf I mount it manually (using mount as root) it works18:16
Draglornoone any hint?18:34
Draglorcould anyone say if this is a kde or an ubuntu (kubuntu) issue?18:46
Draglorthx for your help guys ...18:50
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yofelI don't have a vfat drive at hand to test it currently18:50
yofelcould be KDE or HAL though from what you say18:51
DraglorI know18:51
Dragloror udev (used by HAL)18:51
Draglorbut permissions are right (so it seems not to be udev or hal) as I can copy smaller files18:52
Draglorbut by using console (where it does not work as well) it seems to be udev IMHO18:52
Draglorbut using gnome it works18:52
Draglorso my belief is, that is it kde somehow18:53
DraglorI tried it on 4 boxes all having the same issue ....18:54
Draglorall running kubuntu (and kde rc1) (but on #kde there's no such issue18:54
Draglorwell .. but this seems to be the wrong place to ask about this .. thanks for anyone trying to help ....18:55
Draglorthis channel isn't really helpfull is it?18:57
Ian_corneomg18:58
Ian_corneplease be more friendly18:58
Ian_corneand be patient18:58
Ian_corneyou're not making it any more likely for someone to help you with those comments18:59
Ian_corneand you're here for 10.04 support?19:00
Draglorno 10.04 would be #ubuntu for me19:03
DraglorBut I didn't expect any help here, I just asked inside here cause I was asked to ask here .... I knew before that it would be useless ....19:04
PiciDraglor: #ubuntu+1 is only for 10.10 support. Since you said you are using 10.04, you shouldn't be asking in this channel,.19:04
PiciDraglor: Who told you to ask here?19:04
Draglorthat's why I didn't ask in äubuntu Pici19:04
Draglora guy on twitter (I won't reveal his name nor nickname)19:05
DraglorI'm using maverick and kde 4.5 rc119:05
DraglorShould I ask in #ubuntu?19:05
PiciDraglor: Thats not what you said earlier.19:05
Draglorwhat did I say earlier?19:06
Pici13:05:35 <Draglor> I got kde 4.5 rc1 installed (kubuntu 10.04)....19:06
Dragloroh sorry just read it .. it's 10.10 not 10.0419:06
Draglorbut just thanks for the help19:06
PiciThen this is the place to ask.  Sorry if that was confusing.19:07
DraglorThis was my fault19:07
Chipacais the cursor flickering like crazy a known issue?19:07
DraglorBut I didn't want to ask here .... I knew why (same for #kde) ;) I was "forced" by some guys on twitter to say it here .. they said anyone here might help (what wasn't my experience)19:08
DraglorAnd isn't my experience now as well19:09
yofelright now asking for kubuntu support is a bit of a bad time anyway, as it's https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTutorialsDay today19:09
Daekdroomyofel, so we should expect all the kubuntu experienced people to be on that?19:10
Daekdroom*most of19:10
yofelpropably19:10
DraglorWell ... I won't switch, but I'll advice others to use gnome (ubuntu) as it works on that19:12
Draglorwell ... same on kde (in lucid)19:40
edgyHi, I upgraded to maverick and the network manager tool looks as normal (enable wireless, manage connections, connect to other network), but from the livecd it looks much better with some graphs and more options, how can delete my old configs so I get this new look?19:45
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aliendude3500hey guys, I have NOTHING open except for the Update Manager and XChat, and I still have 1.9GB/2GB of RAM in use. I think there is a major memory leak, but I'm not sure what it20:23
aliendude3500's in. What should I do?20:23
aliendude3500sorry about that being two messages -- bumped enter by mistake20:23
jag0aliendude3500, #top, read man page to order by cpu... also ps can do it20:24
aliendude3500I'm in Ubuntu 10.10 Alpha 2 right now. I upgraded from Lucid with do-release-upgrade -d20:24
jag0aliendude3500, also, gnome-system-monitor20:24
aliendude3500jag0, I tried system monitor and nothing seemed to be using more than 30MB.20:24
aliendude3500also, I tried htop and the highest number for mem was 5.820:25
aliendude3500htop is just like top but easier imho20:25
jag0alpha eh? no help from me then20:25
jag0hmm20:25
zakscottim having trouble with nvidia drivers and my ion chip in 10.1020:25
aliendude3500I think there is a kernel memory leak20:25
aliendude3500even as root, I couldn't find an offending process20:26
Picialiendude3500: How much ram is being used by buffers/cache? see the output from; free -m20:26
aliendude3500Everything seemed to be using low ram20:26
aliendude3500Pici: 32358820:26
jag0aliendude3500, I also have only 60mb free and only running a few things20:26
zakscottanyone have success with nvidia drivers in maverick and an nvidia ion chip?20:26
aliendude3500Then it's certainly a memory leak...20:26
aliendude3500I have 30MB free right now. My system is often freezing momentarily20:27
aliendude3500zakscott: we read your message once, don't bother reposting it, it clutters chat.20:27
jag0I use free -m and I also am using 1.8gb mem only running xchat and terminals . do we think this is similar to the 99% cpu thing in windows? ok i gotta go20:27
Picihuh?20:28
aliendude3500jag0: I'm running the same things as you. Yeah, it seems to be a common issue20:28
aliendude3500is there a way to dump my memory to a file? I have a 1.5TB hard disk, I can afford to waste space...20:29
edgyHi, I upgraded to maverick and the network manager tool looks as normal (enable wireless, manage connections, connect to other network), but from the livecd it looks much better with some graphs and more options, how can delete my old configs so I get this new look?20:29
aliendude3500I just want to be able to look at each process and see what's using the most ram20:29
aliendude3500zakscott: Try installing the noveau drivers. That's better than nothing. I think they should work with your card. I have an ATI, so I wouldn't know...20:30
aliendude3500edgy: try pressing ctrl+h in your home directory. That should show hidden files.20:31
aliendude3500edgy: then delete these folders:20:32
aliendude3500... sec ...20:32
edgyaliendude3500: those files contains my important 100000000 mails20:32
edgyaliendude3500: and lots of other important stuff20:32
aliendude3500.gnome .gnome2 .gnome2_private .gconf .gconfd20:32
aliendude3500only delete the ones I listed.20:32
edgyaliendude3500: it's kde btw20:32
aliendude3500oh... KDE? dang.20:33
aliendude3500That would've worked in gnome.20:33
TommyThaGunwhy do I get a  Hash Sum mismatch20:33
TommyThaGunwhy do I get a  "Hash Sum mismatch" error when doing an apt-get update?20:33
zakscottaliendude3500 are the noveau drivers in the main repos?20:33
aliendude3500zakscott: they should be, let me check for you20:33
aliendude3500dang... so low memory my computer can barely browse the internet :(20:34
aliendude3500I think there is a ppa for the newer noveau drivers that work on more cards...20:35
aliendude3500zakscott: try this:20:35
aliendude3500sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/nouveau20:35
aliendude3500sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau20:35
aliendude3500that might work, but I don't have an nvidia card to test it on.20:35
aliendude3500let me know if that works20:36
zakscotti tried installing nvidia-current20:36
zakscottto no avail :(20:36
aliendude3500noveau works better than the nvidia proprietary driver on newer kernels and versions of X.org20:36
edgyaliendude3500: do you have any idea whether ati fglrx works now?20:36
aliendude3500remove the nvidia-current driver and install noveau for now20:37
aliendude3500edgy: I have an old X1950 GT in the PC I'm on right now, and my card isn't supported anymore, but I do have another computer with an ATI  Radeon 4850HD card, but that's running Lucid. However, fglrx works fine on that pc.20:38
aliendude3500I know the nvidia drivers don't work on the new version of the X server, so you have to use the noveau drivers if you're on maverick. I heard that the noveau drivers are getting closer and closer to matching the proprietary drivers performance20:39
edgyaliendude3500: I am asking whether fglrx works with maverick20:39
aliendude3500edgy: I know that... I don't have an answer for you, but I'd assume it's not yet updated for the new X server yet.20:40
edgyaliendude3500: ok thanks20:41
aliendude3500I'd test it with my other computer, but it's very important that that computer works right now, as I have a lot of important files on it. sorry...20:42
aliendude3500zakscott: any luck with noveau?20:42
bjsnidernouveau will not be matching the 3d performance of the nvidia driver any time soon20:43
bjsnider2d is good though20:43
zakscottaliendude3500: cant get that apt-repo to go through20:43
zakscottbut i did find xserver-xorg-video-nouveau20:44
zakscottaliendude3500: should i run nvidia-xconfig now?20:44
aliendude3500I think nvidia-xconfig is part of the proprietary driver, not noveau...20:45
aliendude3500I wouldn't suggest that if the proprietary driver isn't working for you20:45
zakscottdevice driver "nvidia"?20:45
zakscottor should i put nouveau20:45
aliendude3500Umm... let me check20:46
bjsniderall you need to do to use nouveau is remove the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and uninstall nvidia-current20:48
aliendude3500really? I think you have to set it in    /etc/X11/xorg.conf if you installed the proprietary driver before, since that changes settings...20:50
bjsniderno, if you remove that file it uses the default driver for that platform, which is nouveau20:50
Dragloraliendude3500: xorg conf isn't used anymore .. it's settings are generated by udev(hal21:04
Draglorit's only used by old setups .. on actual systems it is not there anymore21:05
Ian_cornenew kernel update inc21:05
Ian_corneDraglor: only for the OS drivers21:05
Ian_corneif you use fglrx or nvidia drivers, it'll require you to put an xorg21:06
Ian_cornethe tools do it for you tho21:06
Ian_corneoh he was talking about the OS driver21:06
DraglorIan_corne: OS drivers?21:08
DraglorKDE itself does use udev21:08
Ian_corneopen source21:09
Draglorhm?21:09
Ian_cornehard mode?21:09
DraglorI use a proprietary nvidia card and I don't have an xorg.conf ...21:09
Draglorso how does this work?21:10
Ian_cornedo you have the proprietary driver in use21:10
Ian_corneor nvidia?21:10
Dragloryes21:10
Draglorthe prop driver21:10
Draglorbut no xorg.conf21:10
Ian_corneweird then, my boxes don't work if I remove the xorg and try to use the driver21:10
Dragloras it's configured by hal/udev since 9.0421:10
Ian_corneI do have dual screens on my nvidia box21:11
Draglorthere's no need for an xorg.conf anymore21:11
Draglorme too21:11
Draglorthe former xorg.xonf is now generated by udev/hal21:11
Ian_cornewasn't hal being decommisioned?21:12
Draglorstill there21:12
TommyThaGunhmm21:12
Draglorit is being deprecated by udev, but not yet21:13
janisozaurwhich version of gcc does maverick ship with?21:14
TommyThaGunwhen I upgraded to maverick, I was so unaware of any differences from lucid to maverick that I looked at System > About Ubuntu... and it still says Lucid Lynx21:14
bazhang!info gcc21:15
ubottugcc (source: gcc-defaults (1.93ubuntu2)): The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.4.4-1ubuntu2 (maverick), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB21:15
janisozaurhmm... any idea why not 4.5?21:16
guntbertTommyThaGun: changes "under the hood" come first I guess, UI only later21:16
h00k!info gcc maverick21:16
ubottugcc (source: gcc-defaults (1.93ubuntu2)): The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.4.4-1ubuntu2 (maverick), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB21:16
h00koh, look. ubottu does maverick. I missed that.21:16
janisozaur!info gcc-4.521:17
ubottugcc-4.5 (source: gcc-4.5): The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4.5.0-7ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 7199 kB, installed size 15640 kB21:17
janisozaurah, I see - it's optional21:17
BUGabundohumm21:54
BUGabundosystem is looking more responsive now21:55
BUGabundonot sure what changed in todays updates21:55
BUGabundoto improve this21:55
DaekdroomBUGabundo, if I had to guess, I'd think it's Ubuntu One nautilus integration.21:57
Ian_corne:p21:57
DaekdroomThey managed to break the linux-image-generic and linux-headers-generic packages O.O21:58
BUGabundoo.O21:59
DaekdroomAptitude is holding them back.21:59
BUGabundonot here22:01
DaekdroomHm..22:01
BUGabundo0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.22:01
Daekdroomlinux-image-generic version differs from the kernel package..22:01
BUGabundoLinux BluBUG 2.6.35-6-generic #9-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jul 1 03:01:23 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux22:02
BUGabundo!info linux22:02
ubottulinux (source: linux-meta): Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.35.6.7 (maverick), package size 4 kB, installed size 32 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia all armel)22:02
DaekdroomMost recent version is 2.6.35.7.8 here22:03
Ian_corneIt's not in the repo's yet I think22:03
Ian_corneInitializing package states... Done22:03
Ian_corneThe following packages have been kept back: linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic22:03
Daekdroomwell, linux, linux-generic, linux-headers-generic, linux-image-generic are22:04
DaekdroomThe matching kernels, not so much22:04
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rippsgeez, they should have waited until linux-image-2.6.35.7 was ready before pushing linux-generic forward22:31
rippsit's not available for i38622:32

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