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lagsebjan: ping10:01
sebjanlag: pong10:01
lagIs all the Syslink code going upstream eventually? Or is it going to reside solely in the Ubuntu kernel?10:02
sebjanthis version of the syslink code will not go upstream. Next version is more suitable to go upstream.10:03
lagOkay10:04
lagI sending my patch to the kernel mailing list now10:04
sebjanlag: great, thanks!10:05
lagGone10:08
lagAnd now ... we wait10:08
lag:)10:08
XorAany news on solution to the git clone issue on omap4?10:15
sebjanXorA: it is fixed with this patch: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-maverick.git;a=commit;h=d96ac19bf235fb639bc29ad3f7db210174e429c210:21
XorAsebjan: thanks10:25
hrwogra: I am downgrading my bb to 6b18 openjdk10:27
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ograhrw, dyfet now has the task to help you working on that11:12
* ogra_panda waves11:16
* cooloney waves back to ogra_panda smiling like a panda11:18
cooloneyogra_panda: we can get a working panda image for downloading now?11:18
ogra_pandacooloney, not yet, seb128 uploaded a new glib, once thats in the archive i can respin, while we have images, they still have the segfaulting kernel11:19
ogragrmbl11:22
ogracrashed again11:22
lagcooloney: What's the current state of bug 58824311:22
ubot2Launchpad bug 588243 in linux-ti-omap (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "kernel BUG at /build/buildd/linux-ti-omap-2.6.33/drivers/video/omap2/dss/core.c:323! (affects: 1) (heat: 96)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58824311:23
cooloneylag: oh, sorry, no update.11:23
cooloneyas long as i got the hw, i will start to debug that11:23
lagWhat hw do you have currently?11:25
cooloneylag: nothing at all -:<11:26
lagcooloney: That's rubbish11:27
cooloneyi will got it tommorrow11:30
lagWhat will it be?11:30
lagC4?11:30
ogra_pandagod, IO really sucks11:30
cooloneypanda, i think11:30
lagcooloney: That bug I sent you affects Lucid - Beagleboard11:31
ogra_pandathe MMC driver surely needs love11:31
lagogra_panda: Which board? Going by your name, Panda?11:32
ogra_pandaright11:32
lagWhat's wrong with it?11:32
ogra_pandatab completion can make the board stuck for 30sec11:32
* lag checks11:33
ogra_pandalike hard hanging until the rest of the directory name is printed on the term11:33
ogra_pandabut at least i have a working image now11:33
lagYou do? What was wrong?11:34
ogra_pandasegfaults over and over11:34
lagAre you running a full Desktop system?11:34
ogra_pandalag, i'm running what you should run as well, the ubuntu images :=11:34
ogra_panda:)11:34
cooloneyogra_panda: what's the kernel version11:34
ogra_pandacooloney, now its the one uploaded yesterday11:35
cooloneyi think we got some fixing patches in ti-omap411:35
ogra_panda901.4 i think11:35
* lag is a Kernel Engineer - GUIs are for weaners 11:35
ogra_pandathat one is a lot better but still sucks at SD I/O11:35
lag:)11:35
hrwogra: boot from sd but keep rootfs on usb (if it works)11:35
lagI'll download the latest11:35
ogra_pandalag, thats the reason why we always get broken kernels from the kernel team :P11:35
lagDo you have a quick link?11:35
ogra_pandayou guys only test if serial works :P11:35
* lag sees ogra's lips moving, but doesn't hear the noise 11:36
hrwogra: you need more? really?11:36
ograhaha11:36
ogralag, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/ports/daily-preinstalled/ wait for 20100707, i'll do a rebuild shortly11:36
ograwith the latest kernel11:37
ogra06 isnt really usable11:37
ogradue to permament segfaults in 900.111:37
* ogra_panda ponders if he should be brave and try firefox11:37
ogra_pandalets see :)11:38
hrwrun firefox, come back tomorrow - maybe it will be loaded11:38
ogra_pandaruns fine :)11:38
ogra_pandacouls scroll a bit smoother11:39
ogra_panda*could11:39
ogra_pandabut is definately the fastest i have seen on arm framebuffer yet11:40
hrwstill fbdev in use?11:40
ogra_pandasure, we dont have an X server for panda in the archive11:40
* lag 's monitor still doesn't want to work with the Panda board11:41
lag:(11:41
ogra_pandafont rendering sucks11:42
ogra_pandai wonder why11:42
ogra_pandait runs at 1920x108011:43
ogra_pandathe fonts should be smooth11:43
ogra_pandabeyond the IO issues and the ugly fonts its as fast as an ATOM i'd say11:44
ogra_pandait even boots in 15sec after u-boot11:44
ogra_pandai.e. switching on screen to gdm11:44
ogra_pandahtop shows 281MB used with gnome-terminal, FF and xchat open11:45
hrwshot?11:46
ogra_pandalag, i think GrueMaster experimented with display settings yesterday and found several options to use DVI adapters11:46
hrwlag: using hdmi or dvi porT?11:47
ograhrw, DVI port doesnt work11:48
ograhrw, http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/panda_shot.png11:49
hrw23:13 < GrueMaster> IF I plug the switch into the DVI port and the monitor HDMI>DVI cable into the HDMI port, I get video.11:49
ograheh, the fonts look fine in the screenshot11:49
hrwogra: check cables?11:50
ograhrw, weird, afaik there is no signal on the DVI port in the current revision11:50
ograthe cable is fine11:50
ograi think the frequency isnt11:50
ograit runs at 60Hz while it should be running at 5011:50
ograsadly you cant influence the resolution at all11:51
ograkernel reads EDID and automatically picks the highest res11:51
hrwit does what monitor says11:51
hrwogra: you can11:51
ogra_pandayou cant11:51
laghrw: I can use either11:51
hrw18:32 <@prpplague> Magdalena: for the panda you can just pass the bootargs omapdss.hdmimode=0 omapdss.hdmicode=3511:51
ogra_pandaomap4 doesnt accept resolution options11:51
hrw18:32 <@prpplague> Magdalena: that will get you the basic 1024x768 mode that is common to most displays that support vesa/dvi11:52
hrw18:33 <@prpplague> GrueMaster: if you check the hdmi code you can see a number of display modes, using the HDMI to run a DVI display you need to use the VESA modes11:52
ogra_pandawell, if i enforce a mode i'm not sure my monitor will be able to use it on HDMI11:52
hrwtry?11:52
ogra_pandai think it only can 720p and 1080p on the HDMI port11:52
ogra_pandaits more flexible on DVI11:53
hrwuse hdmi->dvi?11:53
ogra_pandawell, first i have a lot of other stuff :)11:53
ogra_pandadisplay is my least sorrow11:53
lagDisplay is my largest-bugbear11:53
lagTrying ...11:53
* ogra_panda tries some high load websites11:53
laghrw: Nope11:55
* ogra_panda wonders why avahi cant resolve11:56
ogra_pandai can only ping myself on a .loacl address11:56
ogra_panda*local11:57
hrwtell me when you will resolve that11:57
hrwssh hrw@192.168.1.137 is less fun then ssh hrw@beagle.local11:57
ogra_pandayeah11:58
ogra_pandaogra@osiris:~$ ping panda.local11:59
ogra_pandaPING panda.local (192.168.2.114) 56(84) bytes of data.11:59
ogra_panda64 bytes from panda.local (192.168.2.114): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=35.6 ms11:59
ogra_pandahmm, the other direction works11:59
ogra_pandabut i cant ssh into my laptop via the local address11:59
laghrw: When we use HDMI->DVI, which port do I use on the PB?12:00
ogra_pandalag, try both ?12:01
lagAm doing12:02
hrwlag: from how I understood GrueMaster config he has DVI occupied but not used and hdmi output used for display12:03
lagHDMI->HDMI[X] HDMI->HDMI&DVI-D->DVI[X] HDMI->DVI[X]12:04
lag:(12:04
lagAnd DVI-D->HDMI[X]12:04
lag:'(12:04
hrwlag: connect dvi and hdmi at same time12:05
ogra_pandano sound :(12:05
lagI tried that12:07
lagHDMI->HDMI&DVI-D->DVI[X]12:07
lagsetenv bootargs omapdss.hdmimode=0 omapdss.hdmicode=35 vram=32M, omapfb.vram=0:8M console=tty2 console=ttyO2,115200n8 noinitrd mem=512M root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=1 ip=none; mmcinit 0; fatload mmc 0 0x80200000 uImage; bootm 0x8020000012:09
lagWhat's our cmdline ogra?12:10
ograonly vram=32M, no further video related options12:11
ogramem=512M is definately wrong12:11
lagI've tried that oo12:11
lagtoo*12:11
lagWhat should it be?12:12
ograthat will try to write in coprocessor occupied ram regions12:12
ogra46312:12
ogra(as i understood mem=463M is mandatory, thats why we use it on the images)12:12
ograwhy the heck are you using rootdelay ?12:13
ograi thought kernel devs know thats deprecated :P12:13
hrwlag: use rootwait12:13
ogra_pandaogra@panda:~$ cat /proc/cmdline12:14
ogra_pandaquiet splash vram=32M mem=463M root=UUID=bdee5e48-a61b-492f-a060-6b8d1afe4364 fixrtc12:14
ogra_panda...12:14
ograhmm, there should be a ro too12:14
ograweird12:14
lagStill no console on the monitor12:14
ograoh, the image used an older jasper12:14
ograSIGH !!!12:16
ogranow glib is in the archive and the image builds fail on empathy12:16
* ogra wishes the desktop team would stop uploading .... our desktop is fine as it is, damned !12:16
ograj/k12:17
hrwogra: I would say "rebuild it on your fast arm" but it suck on i/o...12:23
ograi guess USB would be fast12:23
ograbut that wont get me the package into the archive faster12:23
ograits the publisher i'm waiting for12:23
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rsalvetimorning13:12
rsalvetiogra: nice you were able to boot panda :-)13:20
rsalvetiogra: how is it now? still giving lots of seg faults?13:21
ograyup, its running fine, i only wish i could build images with the fixes now13:21
rsalvetiogra: :-)13:23
rsalvetinew issues everyday haha13:23
ogra_pandaheh, yeah13:23
ogra_pandapeople sadly upload packages ...13:23
ogra_pandahey robclark|panda :)13:28
robclark|pandagm ogra_panda13:29
* ogra_panda hands robclark|panda some bamboo13:29
robclark|pandayum yum13:29
ogra_panda:)13:29
* robclark|panda just got around to re-configuring pidgin on panda after nuking his home directory..13:30
* ogra_panda is using xchat13:30
robclark|pandapidgin is at least relatively easy to get working behind proxy13:31
ogra_pandamight be, i never tried xchat behind proxy :)13:32
ogra_pandai just find it painful to use IM clients for IRc13:32
robclark|pandayeah.. pidgin isnt really my favorite13:32
sebjanrobclark|panda: irssi works well behind the proxy :)13:34
robclarkhmm.. ok.. something to try13:35
cwillu_at_workxchat works fine behind a proxy, that's how I always use it13:43
cwillu_at_workhence my lack of a hostmask :p13:43
ograha !13:59
ografinally an image build that doesnt die13:59
ograso in 2-3h we should have a panda image thats actually usable14:01
lagIT WORKS!14:21
loollag: syslink?14:22
laglool: That's old news - that worked yesterday14:22
lag:)14:22
lagMy monitor - w/Panda14:22
loolerf14:22
lagEquine Rescue France?14:23
hrwlag: what helped?14:29
lagI'm now running the release (CD) image14:30
lagI still don't know what the matter was with the other one?14:30
lagPerhaps the rootfs was incorrect?14:30
lagogra_panda, ogra_cmpc, ogra: How long did your Panda image take to come up?14:38
lagMine has been sat at the "will take approx 10mins" screen for about 15mins14:39
lagThen it just went off14:39
lagsebjan: Ping14:42
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lagogra?15:16
ericm|ubuntunpitre, do you have any idea why Kirkwood keeps PCIBIOS_MIN_IO as 0x1000 and PCIBIOS_MIN_MEM as 0x01000000?15:17
npitreericm|ubuntu: no idea -- probably Lennert would know15:19
* GrueMaster yawns, stretches, and looks for coffee.15:20
ericm|ubuntunpitre, ok - I'll drop him an email15:20
ericm|ubuntuGrueMaster, wakeup from hibernation?15:20
GrueMasterSomething likethat.15:20
* GrueMaster needs a new keyboard.15:20
npitreukleinek: would you mind removing that only patch of yours I object to from your Git tree, add the latest ACKs and send RMK a pull request?15:21
npitreukleinek: I think that stuff might be ready for mainline15:22
ukleineknpitre: no, I can.  My only concern is that the uImage target is broken then15:22
GrueMasterOk, I have video on my panda working now using a HDMI>DVI cable to a pc monitor.  It is in the HDMI port.  I am also using the following kernel parameters:15:22
GrueMasteromapdss.hdmimode=0 omapdss.hdmicode=3515:22
lagGrueMaster: My board worked HDMI->HDMI once15:24
lagThen on reboot - nothing15:24
lagThen I re-flashed the SD card with the same image and rebooted15:24
lagStill nothing15:24
GrueMasterTry also adding console=ttyO2,115200 console=tty0.  That way you can see what is happening in the kernel.15:25
lagIt's not my cmdline - this is fresh from the CD archive15:26
ogralag, his a key, thats DPMS :)15:26
ogra*hit even15:26
lag?15:26
ograGrueMaster, wait for the new image that has a less buggy kernel that doesnt hang all the time15:27
ogra<lag> Mine has been sat at the "will take approx 10mins" screen for about 15mins15:27
ogra<lag> Then it just went off15:27
lagI tried that15:27
GrueMasterSome issues I ran into yesterday included not being able to use my HDMI switchbox with panda (sad face), sometimes losing keyboard input, but not mouse (I have a keyboard with built in touchpad), and occasional system hangs.15:27
lagBut nothing15:27
ograoh, you mean after reboot ?15:27
lagI don't even know if my keyboard is compatible15:27
lagYeah15:27
ograyeah, thats a known bug with the old images15:27
ograwait for 2010070715:27
* GrueMaster goes to see if coffee is ready. brb15:28
lagI even flashed the card again, but nothing!15:28
ograthat has a fix for it15:28
ograhmm, if you freshly flashed the card it should work indeed15:28
lagCorrect15:28
ograthough i wouldnt trus that kernel at all15:28
ograthe new image should be up in about 1.5h15:29
lagOkay, I guess it's worth waiting for15:29
lagIs it a kernel bug?15:30
ograwell, display should still work15:30
ograbut the kernel throws random segfaults15:30
ograso it can die at any point15:31
ograi had to do five attempts until resizing worked yesterday15:31
ograbecause it locked up hard in the middle every time15:31
npitreukleinek: we'll need to not use the dynamic phys offset (which is off by default) until mkimage/u-boot is fixed, so that shouldn't prevent this stuff from being merged15:31
sebjanlag: pong15:31
npitreukleinek: could mkimage simply be used without any load addr?15:32
lagHey sebjan15:32
lagWhere you in a meeting with Nicolas?15:32
sebjanlag: yes, why? :)15:33
ogranpitre, 0x0 should work15:33
lagBecause you both came back at the same time :)15:33
lagI was wondering what the verdict was with regards to my patch?15:33
ukleineknpitre: no, passing a loadaddr is obligatory15:42
sebjanlag: I would expect some experts reviewers to provide comments. Fyi, I will take your current patch for internal usage, and then update to whatever it ends-up after review.15:44
lagNo problem15:45
ukleineknpitre: pull request sent15:45
npitreukleinek: can this limitation be fixed?15:53
ukleineknpitre: I didn't touch U-Boot for some time.  I think they have a new image format, but I don't know the details15:53
npitreukleinek: something like a loadaddr of -1 meaning that it has to be provided at load time or the like15:54
ukleinekIIRC U-Boot can boot zImages, too15:54
ukleinekBarebox can, too15:54
npitreukleinek: last time I booted zImage with uboot, the ATAG block wasn't set up15:55
npitreukleinek:  nor the r1 machine ID15:55
ukleineknpitre: barebox does it right, don't know about U-Boot for sure15:57
amitkogra: I see uboot-envtools and uboot-mkimage packages in the archive. Where is the u-boot source?16:10
ograu-boot-omap3/416:10
ograi dont know why debian chose to use no dash16:11
ograupstream clearly does16:11
amitkogra: in lucid?16:12
ograonly omap3 there16:12
amitkogra: don't see any u-boot-omap316:12
* amitk checks deb-src lines16:13
ograamitk, https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/u-boot-omap316:13
ograGrueMaster, lag, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/ports/daily-preinstalled/20100707/16:40
ograhappy playing16:40
GrueMasteryea, I'm seeing them come in.16:40
ograi think we should disable zsync generation16:41
GrueMasterswap it for MD5sums.  :P16:41
ograit gives a flase impression that users would gain anything by using it16:41
ograGrueMaster, assigned to NCommander16:41
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ogradont blame me :)16:41
GrueMasterI know.  I was kidding.16:41
NCommanderogra: GrueMaster: its sad that we can't use it, bu tI'll look at it once my headache subsides16:42
lagWill the omap one work for XM?16:42
ogralag, you could try it with a different u-boot binary16:42
ogralag, if you find one that works16:42
lagWell I have booted the XM16:42
ograbeyond that it should work16:42
lagSo I do have one16:42
lagWhen will it work out-of-the-box?16:43
ograoh, then *your* XM might even work with that image :)16:43
ogramine doesnt16:43
ograkernel surely is supposed to work and beyond that there should be no difference in userspace16:43
ografeel free to try it :)16:44
GrueMasterAre we doing a single image now or is the omap4 image still churning?16:44
ograi see both16:45
* ogra reloads16:45
ograstill16:45
lagCan someone point me to a list of hdmi modes?16:46
lag35 is out of range on my monitor16:46
GrueMaster35 is 1280x102416:46
ograi think there are some in the omap4 dss driver code16:46
GrueMasterbeyond that, I don't know.16:46
lagThis is odd16:47
lagBooted with 35 "out of range"16:47
ograthe panda ?16:47
lagYeah16:47
ograoh, i forgot, it doesnt like your EDID16:48
lagBut it's working16:48
lagWith my own kernel16:48
lagBut only with 3516:48
lag11 doesn't even come up16:48
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loologra: Hey there21:09
loologra: Do you know if the A2 kernels work on Beagleboard XMs?21:09
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