[00:13] <hggdh> ddecator: have not had it, but LP is down ATM
[01:30] <ddecator> hggdh: strange, i've had it off-and-on for a while now (maybe a couple of months) but i hadn't realized how often it happened until i started to really go through my bug mail...hm :/
[05:42] <Damascene> hi, is there a known bug about new icons on desktop get all on one place over each other
[05:53] <Damascene> Bug #40872
[05:53] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 40872 in nautilus (Ubuntu) (and 3 other projects) "Desktop icons are allowed to overlap (affects: 27) (dups: 10) (heat: 216)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40872
[08:53] <xelister> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tremulous/+bug/513918
[08:53] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 513918 in tremulous (Ubuntu) "Tremulous is missing files and will not correctly start (affects: 9) (heat: 66)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[08:54] <xelister> please set priority to Medium - most native 3D games on linux (q3 based) do not work.  We have so little of native games and they do not work. Year of linux on desktop...
[09:12] <Pa_trick17> Hello, which package is Bug 582625 related to? It's about the "Help"-Application, but I can't find a package "help". Thx for helping a Newbie :-D
[09:12] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 582625 in ubuntu "Ureadable character in ubuntu docs (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/582625
[09:13] <Pa_trick17> Is "ubuntu-docs" the right package?
[09:23] <Pa_trick17> I will show more bravery now and am going to set the package to "ubuntu-docs" now. If you think I'm doing wrong please write me or set the correct package by yourself. Thx
[13:18] <xelister> hi, well ubuntu overall does not work well with GFX cards
[13:18] <xelister> radeons - crashes, freezes often
[13:18] <xelister> nvidia - the same
[13:18] <xelister> is there any use in reporting such bugs... is anyone doing any real work?
[13:35] <yofel> xelister: what cards and what release? I have a few nvidia cards and they work fine with the nvidia drivers from the repository, sure it's not a X / Application issue?
[13:41] <xelister> yofel: all
[13:41] <xelister> yofel: all that I ever seen, so summ it up. Now Im testing on 10.04 on some radeon and nvidia and intell and some 2 other cards
[13:42] <xelister> on livecd's (9.10, non-propertiary) the refresh rate and/or resolution is bad usually
[13:42] <xelister> on normal setup (10.04, propertiary drivers) they like to hang sooner or later, especially:  radeon - on switching VTs (often) ; and nvidia - rarerly - when switching VTs and memory pressure is huge
[13:43] <xelister> so is there some team dedicated to make ubutnu finally support GFX card with a good quality by default, that will really investiagate such reports or is it waste of time to report
[13:44] <yofel> hm, 9.10 should still use NV I think, nouveau is an improvement at least (10.04 upwards)
[13:44] <xelister> I have reproducable cases of this radeon hanging.  If someone will really investigate with me (some devel), then I could help with testing
[13:44] <xelister> same goes to nvidia that hangs on memory pressure
[13:45] <yofel> maybe ask in #ubuntu-x or for nvidia search on http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=14 first
[13:46] <yofel> also you could try the nvidia 256 drivers from the x-updates ppa on lucid
[13:46] <xelister> I dont want to complain too much
[13:47] <xelister> but for years, always, you can find so much problems with even GFX support.  its not so motivating when for years same problems go on
[14:29] <vish> seb128: could you comment on Bug 540826 ? bilal has a branch which he says doesnt break translations .. not sure what to do there..
[14:29] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 540826 in indicator-session (Ubuntu) (and 4 other projects) "Rename "Suspend" to "Sleep" (affects: 5) (heat: 22)" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/540826
[14:30] <seb128> I will
[14:30] <vish> seb128: thanks.
[14:30] <seb128> yw
[16:55] <^arky^> hi
[18:57] <abhi_nav> anyone free to talk? any student?
[19:01] <abhi_nav> I am a student. Planning to contribut to start as triager. so I want to know if how much time I need to give per day?
[19:02] <abhi_nav> !ping
[19:02] <ubot2> pong
[19:02] <arand> abhi_nav: As much as you want to give, really, all depending on how much you want to get involved.
[19:02] <abhi_nav> arand, initially less.
[19:03] <abhi_nav> arand, half hour ok? for traiage/
[19:03] <abhi_nav> ?
[19:05] <hggdh> abhi_nav: half-hour is good.
[19:05] <hggdh> more is better ;-)
[19:05] <arand> I don't know if time is a good measure for it really, number of bugs.. maybe, although they vary a lot in complexity of triaging...
[19:06] <abhi_nav_> arand, i was disconnected. can you tell me half hour ok ?
[19:06] <abhi_nav_> arand, ok
[19:06] <arand> abhi_nav_: 20:05 < hggdh> abhi_nav: half-hour is good.
[19:06] <arand> 20:05 < hggdh> more is better ;-)
[19:06] <abhi_nav_> hggdh, arand ok thanks
[19:06] <abhi_nav_> i just lost connection
[19:57] <pedro_> QA team meeting in ~3 minutes at #ubuntu-quality
[19:57] <ddecator> woot!
[19:58] <pedro_> hello ddecator ;-)
[19:58] <ddecator> hola pedro_ :)
[19:59] <ddecator> pedro_: btw, we came up with a possibility for the wiki. not an ideal solution, but i'll try it after the meeting and send out an email asking for opinions if it works
[19:59] <pedro_> ddecator, great!, looking forward to that email ;-)
[21:02] <micromix> hey guys i an wondering how would we find out who fixes bugs for packages, do they have adopt a package like we do?
[21:25] <hggdh> micromix: the fix may come from upstream, not from us; also *anyone* can propose a patch
[21:26] <hggdh> micromix: and it is not necessary to adopt a package to work on fixes
[21:26] <hggdh> although it helps to concentrate on a subset -- you have to learn the code, and understand it
[21:27] <micromix> hggdh: i was just curious to know what happens when we finish triage a bug
[21:27] <hggdh> ah
[21:27] <micromix> if it eventually reaches a developer
[21:27] <micromix> or maybe we need to try to fix bugs ourselves
[21:27] <hggdh> yes, eventually it reaches one. May take some time, since we are all quite busy
[21:28] <hggdh> and, as I said above, *anyone* can work on a fix. We prefer fixes that the package developers approve
[21:29] <hggdh> so -- for example -- if I write a fix for er, Evolution, then I should also propose it upstream
[21:29] <micromix> thats good, i like evolution :D
[21:30] <hggdh> heh
[21:30] <hggdh> I love/hate it
[21:30] <hggdh> jcastro: ping?
[21:31] <micromix> do we have a any sort of policy with regards to the developers though
[21:32] <micromix> lets say i adopted a package
[21:32] <hggdh> ok?
[21:32] <micromix> checkgmail *cough
[21:32] <micromix> and i wanted to make sure i was giving the proper degugging info
[21:32] <micromix> just go in #motu and ask?
[21:33] <micromix> or lets say to let the developer to know that i am subscribed to those bugs in a package
[21:33] <hggdh> depends
[21:33] <hggdh> who is the developer for checkgmail?
[21:34] <micromix> erm
[21:34] <micromix> ok a next question then
[21:34] <hggdh> you probably can find it on the source package, or on LP
[21:34] <micromix> how would i find that out
[21:34] <hggdh> in the package source, look at the AUTHORS file (there should be one)
[21:35] <hggdh> also, perhaps it has a ./debian/watch, which will tell us where the upstream source comes from
[21:36] <hggdh> then it is a question of 'google is your friend'
[21:36] <hggdh> also, we sync/merge a lot from Debian
[21:37] <micromix> it did not have a authors file..
[21:37] <micromix> but still good idea
[21:37] <hggdh> but 'google is your friend' works: the very first hit for 'checkgmail' is http://checkgmail.sourceforge.net/
[21:38] <hggdh> so this is the upstream for it
[21:38] <micahg> micromix: packages.ubuntu.com has an upstream link for packages as well
[21:39] <hggdh> good call, micahg :-)
[21:39] <micahg> s/upstream/Homepage/
[21:39] <jcastro> hggdh: pong
[21:41] <hggdh> jcastro: I have to develop a branding for the Ubuntu server (triage, testing, QA-ing, etc), and... guess what name came to my humble mind (that might give me some pointers)?
[21:46] <micromix> well thanks guys
[21:47] <jcastro> hggdh: jono!
[21:47] <jcastro> hggdh: :D
[21:48] <jcastro> hggdh: sure, can you hit me over mail though? kind of overwhelmed with font stuff until EOD
[21:48] <hggdh> jcastro: will do, thank you
[22:12] <Kangarooo> whats the name of programm that looks like bug icon in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/ApplicationIndicators?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=disaster.png ?
[22:45] <micromix> what do we do with sigsegv bugs?
[22:52] <Kangarooo> i also want to know
[23:20] <micahg> Kubuntu Bug Triage training session in #kubuntu-devel
[23:46] <micahg> bdmurray: around?
[23:52] <bdmurray> micahg: yes
[23:52] <micahg> bdmurray: ah, just sent you an email :)