| jono | howdy kim0 | 06:31 |
|---|---|---|
| kim0 | jono, Morning ma | 06:32 |
| kim0 | man* | 06:33 |
| kim0 | :D | 06:33 |
| kim0 | lol | 06:33 |
| dholbach | good morning | 08:04 |
| ddecator | morning dholbach | 08:05 |
| ara | morning dholbach, all | 08:05 |
| ddecator | morning ara | 08:06 |
| dholbach | hey ddecator, hey ara | 08:09 |
| dholbach | how are you all doing? | 08:09 |
| nigelb | morning dholbach :) | 08:10 |
| dholbach | hey nigelb | 08:10 |
| ddecator | hey nigelb :) | 08:10 |
| ddecator | doing good dholbach, how are you? | 08:10 |
| dholbach | ddecator: great, thanks | 08:11 |
| dholbach | finally working from the office again | 08:11 |
| nigelb | dholbach: wait, you hve an office? | 08:12 |
| dholbach | nigelb: since a couple of months I work from a shared office | 08:12 |
| dholbach | nigelb: after 4,5 years working from home it was time for that change :) | 08:12 |
| nigelb | dholbach: oh, thats cool. Sets the mood for working :) | 08:13 |
| ddecator | as does a good cup of coffee :) | 08:15 |
| jussi | Huomenta! | 08:19 |
| jussi | Coffee has been instumental in saving my day today. :D | 08:19 |
| * nigelb waves to jussi | 08:21 | |
| * jussi throws water balloons at nigelb | 08:21 | |
| jussi | :D | 08:21 |
| * dholbach upgrades desktop machine to maverick | 08:29 | |
| dholbach | ara: ^ anything I should know? :-P | 08:29 |
| ara | dholbach, mine worked correctly, but you can check mvo's yesterday reports: | 08:30 |
| ara | http://people.canonical.com/~mvo/automatic-upgrade-testing/2010-07-06-15:03:01/ | 08:30 |
| ara | it seems safe, unless you have bacula-director-mysql installed | 08:31 |
| * dholbach hugs ara | 08:31 | |
| dholbach | ara is just full of awesome | 08:32 |
| ddecator | i've been debating upgrading...maybe i'll do it later this week if ara says it's safe :) | 08:33 |
| ara | ddecator, maybe later this week won't be safe :D | 08:34 |
| ara | ddecator, you'd better check mvo reports the day you want to upgrade | 08:34 |
| ddecator | ara: good point. i'm waiting until after UUD, i'll probably ask you next week if it still is ;) | 08:34 |
| ddecator | or check the reports.. | 08:34 |
| ara | but, normally, if something gets terribly wrong (like a python upload that breaks every python application), it gets announced | 08:35 |
| ddecator | yah, i normally upgrade at a3, but i've been bored :x | 08:39 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 08:44 |
| ddecator | hey czajkowski | 08:46 |
| dholbach | hi czajkowski | 08:46 |
| czajkowski | ddecator: dholbach howdy :) | 09:06 |
| dholbach | hey - how are you doing? :) | 09:07 |
| ddecator | dholbach beat me to asking :p | 09:07 |
| czajkowski | goood heading out for the morning doing some odd jobs and following up on jobs | 09:07 |
| czajkowski | catch folks later | 09:08 |
| dholbach | james_w: I filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr-builder/+bug/602589 | 09:30 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 602589 in bzr-builder "to add packaging 'nest' needs a flat file branch, no debian subdir (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] | 09:30 |
| dholbach | jcastro: LP released yesterday already | 10:38 |
| dholbach | jcastro: I'll have a quick call with mrevell tomorrow - he wants to be on the same page too, there's going to be no daily builds announce from the LP side | 10:39 |
| dholbach | jcastro: he said we should mumble with abentley and him next week when they're in Prague | 10:39 |
| paultag | hey all | 12:00 |
| nigelb | dholbach: awesome news :) | 12:19 |
| czajkowski | BACK : | 12:27 |
| czajkowski | :D | 12:27 |
| paultag | czajkowski: ohai | 12:27 |
| * czajkowski signed up for an course today on Project Management :) | 12:28 | |
| paultag | w00t! | 12:29 |
| paultag | we need it :) | 12:29 |
| nigelb | dholbach: http://i.imgur.com/Mozt9.jpg | 13:20 |
| nigelb | something special just for you ;) | 13:20 |
| dholbach | nigelb: http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs087.snc4/35706_135346869822812_100000424996146_257724_1618065_n.jpg :-P | 13:37 |
| dholbach | I just hope it's a good game - I don't care that much who wins :) | 13:37 |
| nigelb | dholbach: hahaha! | 13:39 |
| dholbach | does http://people.canonical.com/~dholbach/bugfix.pdf look useful to anybody? | 14:05 |
| dholbach | nigelb, james_w, jcastro: ^? | 14:05 |
| nigelb | dholbach: looks beautiful | 14:08 |
| nigelb | dholbach: Also, Folie in german means page? | 14:08 |
| dholbach | "slide" maybe | 14:09 |
| dholbach | page means "Seite" in German | 14:09 |
| jcastro | dholbach: !!!!! | 14:09 |
| nigelb | in the right side bar, I see "Folie 1" :) | 14:09 |
| paultag | IIRC Folie ist like a film slide? | 14:09 |
| paultag | nigelb: I think that means slide one | 14:09 |
| paultag | nigelb: ask dholbach, though. I'm not native | 14:09 |
| nigelb | paultag: ah! | 14:09 |
| nigelb | paultag: I think you have a highlight for german :p | 14:10 |
| paultag | nigelb: :) | 14:10 |
| jcastro | dholbach: http://www.lottanzb.org/2010/07/lottanzb-0-6-daily-builds-available/ | 14:10 |
| jcastro | james_w: ^ | 14:10 |
| dholbach | nice | 14:10 |
| nigelb | anyway, I'm calling it a day, going home. catch ya'll in some time :) | 14:14 |
| dholbach | nigelb: see you | 14:15 |
| paultag | cheers nigelb | 14:16 |
| james_w | dholbach: looks good | 14:17 |
| jcastro | dholbach: aha, maverick doesn't work for the daily builds | 14:17 |
| james_w | jcastro: cool | 14:17 |
| dholbach | jcastro: oh ok - do you have a bug for that? | 14:18 |
| jcastro | https://launchpad.net/bugs/599102 | 14:18 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 599102 in launchpad-code "Source build based on recipe targeting Maverick fails (affects: 2) (heat: 16)" [High,Triaged] | 14:18 |
| dholbach | super, I'll add it to the KnownLimitations | 14:19 |
| jcastro | any luck today? | 14:19 |
| jcastro | with what you're trying to build I mean | 14:19 |
| dholbach | I was doing like 318251356 other things, and I still don't know how I could get something built | 14:19 |
| dholbach | so, no luck | 14:20 |
| jcastro | dholbach: the graph looks good btw | 14:31 |
| dholbach | jcastro: yeah, it just doesn't say much yet :) | 14:32 |
| paultag | anyone see the new iPhone? http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4142/4764273405_396564c798_b.jpg | 14:35 |
| paultag | *zing* | 14:38 |
| jcastro | paultag: thanks for the mail on that gpg thing, added. | 14:48 |
| paultag | jcastro: sure thing | 14:50 |
| paultag | jcastro: looking forward to see what comes of it. I have nothing but positive results | 14:52 |
| jono | hi all! | 15:44 |
| paultag | hey jono | 15:44 |
| dholbach | hey jono | 15:44 |
| jono | hey | 15:44 |
| paultag | jono: are you going to be in israel anytime soon? | 15:46 |
| paultag | we need someone to kick some loco arse on behalf of all of us | 15:47 |
| jono | paultag, no immediate plans unfortunately | 15:47 |
| paultag | jono: their loco is shot, and the current contact just can't move forward with the old leaders still thinking they are in charge | 15:47 |
| jono | paultag, ahhhh still having issues | 15:55 |
| jono | LoCo Council are on it, right? | 15:55 |
| jono | kim0, are you joining us today for the call? | 15:55 |
| paultag | jono: yup | 15:55 |
| jono | col | 15:55 |
| jono | cool | 15:55 |
| paultag | jono: We're working on it. Since those two leaders are no longer part of the team, we have Canonical Trademarks working on getting the Domain back | 15:56 |
| jono | good stuff | 15:58 |
| jono | thanks for all the hard work :) | 15:58 |
| jono | you rock :) | 15:58 |
| paultag | jono: sure thing :P | 15:58 |
| jono | dholbach, jcastro, kim0 let's roll | 16:00 |
| jono | dholbach, jcastro, kim0 http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-community-maverick-alpha-3.html | 16:23 |
| dholbach | alright, I call it a day - see you guys tomorrow! | 16:34 |
| * dholbach hugs you all | 16:34 | |
| jcastro | cjohnston: I totally closed the irc window by mistake with the info you wanted me to blog about! | 16:34 |
| jcastro | bye daniel! | 16:34 |
| czajkowski | jcastro: was it about user days ? | 16:35 |
| jcastro | yes! | 16:35 |
| paultag | Oh frak! User days! | 16:35 |
| paultag | I need to finish my stuff, shooot! | 16:35 |
| jcastro | czajkowski: do you have the info on it handy? | 16:36 |
| czajkowski | jcastro: just searched in here nope | 16:37 |
| czajkowski | jcastro: let me go check some emails | 16:37 |
| czajkowski | Saturday July 10th 2010, 09:45 UTC - Sunday July 11th 2010, 03:00 UTC | 16:37 |
| czajkowski | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays | 16:37 |
| czajkowski | is all I have really | 16:37 |
| czajkowski | sorry jcastro | 16:37 |
| jcastro | ok I'll just wait for him to be around | 16:38 |
| jcastro | in the meantime I can blog about that papercutter | 16:38 |
| jcastro | vish: were you able to find a pic? | 16:38 |
| paultag | hey jcastro, last year at OLF you mentioned asking for a double conf pack ( being largely Ubuntu lusers ) -- think I could pull that off? | 16:39 |
| jcastro | you're an official loco right? | 16:39 |
| paultag | jcastro: well, yeah :) | 16:40 |
| jcastro | I think I said something like "if you're an official loco and we know this is a good show you might be able to get more swag/ | 16:40 |
| czajkowski | dodgey Ohio up for re approval :p | 16:40 |
| paultag | >:D | 16:40 |
| jcastro | because afaik we don't have double conf packs | 16:40 |
| jcastro | paultag: when you ask lmk and I'll ask | 16:40 |
| paultag | jcastro: kk, will do, it will be today, I want to get the ducks in a line, if you know what I mean :) | 16:41 |
| jcastro | quack | 16:41 |
| paultag | :) | 16:41 |
| jcastro | smoser will be submitting a UEC talk too | 16:41 |
| jcastro | so it'll be fun | 16:41 |
| paultag | jcastro: for sure, I'm looking forward to it | 16:42 |
| czajkowski | paultag: fried duck is yummy | 16:42 |
| jcastro | will there be lightning talks on the friday again? | 16:42 |
| cjohnston|cell | jcastro: Http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays I believe | 16:42 |
| jcastro | cjohnston|cell: ok so just general advocacy of the even | 16:42 |
| paultag | czajkowski: mmm | 16:42 |
| jcastro | I could have sworn you had something more specific, but cool | 16:42 |
| cjohnston|cell | jcastro: pleia2 also made a blog post but I don't have that link right now | 16:42 |
| czajkowski | cjohnston|cell: dont forget to tweet/dent it using #locoteams | 16:43 |
| cjohnston|cell | Nope. Just advocacy | 16:43 |
| cjohnston|cell | czajkowski: There is a UUD tag | 16:43 |
| jcastro | cjohnston|cell: have you gotten someone to post on the forums yet? | 16:44 |
| nhandler | cjohnston|cell: Here is pleia2's post: http://ubuntuclassroom.wordpress.com/2010/06/29/ubuntu-user-days/ | 16:44 |
| czajkowski | cjohnston|cell: aye but to let teams know about it | 16:44 |
| cjohnston|cell | jcastro: Don't know. Not that I know of | 16:44 |
| jcastro | ON IT. | 16:44 |
| cjohnston|cell | Ty | 16:45 |
| nhandler | I'm sure duanedesign or Technoviking or another forum staffer would be more than happy to sticky it :) | 16:45 |
| jcastro | we need to like, reign in the stickies | 16:47 |
| jcastro | too many these days | 16:47 |
| nhandler | Well, that is up to the forum staff to handle. I certainly don't have access ;) | 16:48 |
| vish | jcastro: hey, will get it in a few mins | 16:57 |
| jcastro | no worries! | 16:57 |
| jcastro | vish: I'm stepping out for some food, just mail it to me or something | 16:58 |
| vish | sure. | 16:58 |
| jcastro | vish: I'll add another call for help to the post too | 16:58 |
| vish | awesome! | 16:58 |
| jcastro | my lazy friend bailed on me for cleansweep, maybe he'll do papercuts instead | 16:59 |
| * nigelb waves | 17:10 | |
| dinda | jcastro: is there even any point in filing OO.o Writer or Impress bugs? the issues are more general like "crashes repeatedly" | 17:13 |
| paultag | hey nigelb | 17:14 |
| nigelb | dinda: helps if you say what were you doig just before it | 17:14 |
| paultag | dinda: I think she is talking about bug triaging | 17:14 |
| paultag | Erm, wait | 17:14 |
| paultag | dinda: I don't know your gender. Are you a she or a he. Very sorry :) | 17:14 |
| nigelb | paultag: she | 17:15 |
| paultag | Ahha | 17:15 |
| paultag | Well then my message stands | 17:15 |
| dinda | nigelb: that's the thing, there is no pattern just general working in the program and it dies | 17:15 |
| nhandler | paultag: /whois dinda would also clear things up ;) | 17:15 |
| paultag | nhandler: aye :) | 17:15 |
| paultag | I had a vauge memory, but I was not 100%, and I figued that out after I sent it | 17:16 |
| nigelb | dinda: Still from a developer point of view, they appreciate details | 17:16 |
| jcastro | dinda: I don't really use them, however if it's a serious issue I would poke calc directly, he's pretty good being responsive if something is driving you crazy | 17:16 |
| nigelb | calc? robert_ancell? | 17:17 |
| jcastro | chris cheney | 17:17 |
| dinda | I thought calc is no longer the OO person? | 17:17 |
| jcastro | I think he's back on it | 17:17 |
| nigelb | how did you shorten that to calc :p | 17:17 |
| jcastro | I am pretyt sure he's back | 17:17 |
| jcastro | nigelb: he chose the nick, not me, heh | 17:17 |
| dinda | nigelb: the problem is that to normal users, there is no time to triage or even file bugs, we just work around until we can no longer work | 17:18 |
| dinda | nigelb: OO.o is almost to that point for many of my projects | 17:18 |
| jcastro | dinda: I don't use it either | 17:18 |
| nigelb | dinda: I know. I understand that too. | 17:18 |
| dinda | nigelb: and the issues are don't follow any pattern as fas as I can see so kind of hard to even write a bug report | 17:18 |
| nigelb | dinda: but if you're the one person who's helping by filing a bug, you'd be giving triagers something to work with while forwarding to OOo | 17:19 |
| jcastro | dinda: I personally use google docs, but that can be limiting to alot of people | 17:19 |
| nigelb | dinda: you can write that too :) | 17:19 |
| dinda | jcastro: we're talking about book level documents, 330 and 441 pages | 17:19 |
| jcastro | indeed. :( | 17:20 |
| nigelb | oh, ugh. No wonder. | 17:20 |
| dinda | but even smaller Impress presentations are now crashing | 17:20 |
| nhandler | dinda: LaTeX ;) | 17:20 |
| nigelb | latex++ | 17:20 |
| dinda | nhandler: don't even get me started on that path | 17:20 |
| nigelb | heh | 17:20 |
| nigelb | vim+latex :p | 17:20 |
| jcastro | on a semi-related note, I am finding Zoho office to be pretty amazing (though web based) | 17:20 |
| dinda | nhandler: if you can find me an author and copy editor who can write in latex and knows Ubuntu well enough to write our course materials I'll hire them on the spot | 17:20 |
| nhandler | dinda: What type of course material ? | 17:21 |
| dinda | nhandler: unfortunately most technical authors and all copy editors are still in the MS Word/Adobe in Design/Framemaker world | 17:22 |
| nigelb | keep talking to nhandler and he'll write a perl program to convert OO.o to latex | 17:22 |
| nhandler | nigelb: No chance ;) | 17:22 |
| paultag | dinda: where are you guys based? | 17:23 |
| nhandler | One thing I do like about stuff like LaTex is that people can use tools like diff and patch to interact with it | 17:23 |
| paultag | nhandler: +1 | 17:23 |
| paultag | plaintext ftw | 17:23 |
| dinda | paultag: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelindaLopez | 17:23 |
| paultag | Humm. | 17:24 |
| nigelb | nhandler: also vcs | 17:24 |
| * jcastro shakes the unix out of paultag and nhandler | 17:24 | |
| paultag | jcastro: must... have.... pipes.... | 17:24 |
| dinda | paultag: we had one author write in plain text and the formatting was heck for the person who then had to turn that into a presentable book | 17:25 |
| paultag | dinda: ouch :( | 17:25 |
| paultag | dinda: LaTeX when done right is pretty awesome. That and you never know who uses GNU/Linux these days | 17:25 |
| dinda | paultag: same issue as doc team; writers just want to write and not worry about formatting or having to learn something like docbook or latex | 17:26 |
| paultag | dinda: aye | 17:26 |
| nigelb | dinda: I can associate with that | 17:26 |
| nhandler | paultag: If I could just get someone to make an Ubuntu LaTeX-beamer theme, that would give me a good opportunity to really make the switch | 17:26 |
| paultag | dinda: LaTeX is really really common with the Science field, and academic papers, esp with Physics, Math and Comp-sci, so you might be able to find someone, as odd as it sounds | 17:26 |
| paultag | nhandler: I was going to make one for my user days prez, but I figured no one would use it | 17:26 |
| dinda | paultag: been looking for 2 years for that special someone | 17:27 |
| dinda | also been looking for better latex/docbook to PDF tools | 17:27 |
| nigelb | dinda: just so that you know, ubuntu manual was written in latex | 17:27 |
| paultag | dinda: I'll keep my eye out for a southern chap or bell and pass him / her on to you. IIRC there was an english grad student who reviewed one of my papers in LaTeX | 17:27 |
| dinda | they have gotten better | 17:27 |
| dinda | nigelb: yip, I know | 17:28 |
| nhandler | paultag: Debian had an awesome latex-beamer theme. I would definitely use an Ubuntu version if it existed | 17:28 |
| paultag | nhandler: Humm. | 17:28 |
| nigelb | somehow a whole bunch of people got together, wrote some good content in a new format, and got it out ;) | 17:28 |
| paultag | nhandler: Well I think I might have to invest some time in that. Thanks for motivating me :) | 17:28 |
| nhandler | paultag: I know that j1mc also used latex-beamer for a LoCo presentation or two and would probably use it as well :) | 17:28 |
| * dinda thinks the Manual Project is just about the best thing ever! | 17:29 | |
| nhandler | paultag: I would start with the Debian theme and modify it to work with Ubuntu | 17:29 |
| paultag | nhandler: It's just Beamer, it's as easy as starting with a Beamer template | 17:29 |
| nigelb | hold on, someone I know hacked on latex templates | 17:30 |
| paultag | nhandler: I was about 60% on one for my user days stuff, then I just started working and forgot to finish it. Typical | 17:30 |
| nigelb | dinda: agreed there :) | 17:30 |
| paultag | hey jcastro, still around? | 17:34 |
| jcastro | yeah | 17:34 |
| paultag | jcastro: can I slide you a PM? | 17:34 |
| jcastro | yeah | 17:35 |
| nigelb | jcastro: poke? Got time for a PM? | 18:13 |
| jcastro | not right now | 18:14 |
| jcastro | just mail me please | 18:14 |
| nigelb | Ok, I'll mail you :) | 18:14 |
| jcastro | nigelb: it will be obvious in 20 minutes what I'm working on. :D | 18:19 |
| paultag | :D | 18:19 |
| nigelb | jcastro: Oh. OHHH. I hink I can guess | 18:20 |
| vish | yay! | 18:20 |
| * ddecator is curious | 18:21 | |
| nigelb | Its either going to be about daily builds or about UDS :p | 18:21 |
| vish | ddecator: the trick is to just cheer and make it seem you know :D | 18:21 |
| nigelb | vish: agreed | 18:22 |
| nigelb | Also, I'm curious about new LP release | 18:22 |
| paultag | nah, don't think so nigelb :) | 18:22 |
| ddecator | the faking fu is strong with you guys :p | 18:22 |
| * vish is excited o.0 | 18:22 | |
| nigelb | ddecator: its one of the more finer points of being an ubuntu member for long :D | 18:23 |
| * nigelb gets champange | 18:23 | |
| paultag | nigelb: has it been a month already? | 18:23 |
| ddecator | nigelb: next week ;) | 18:23 |
| nigelb | vish: you've got mail! | 18:24 |
| nigelb | vish: let me know what you think. Probably the actual responsibility can be rotated among a few people. | 18:25 |
| paultag | nigelb: wow, you've been an Ubuntu member for almost 2 months to the day | 18:26 |
| vish | lol! | 18:26 |
| paultag | nigelb: two days until your two month :) | 18:26 |
| nigelb | paultag: I know ;) | 18:26 |
| nigelb | paultag: though it feels like long ago | 18:26 |
| paultag | nigelb: I still feel like a n00b and I was put in in 2008-08-08 | 18:27 |
| nigelb | paultag: for the love me I can't fix a broken ubuntu system, so yes, I'm n00b | 18:28 |
| vish | oh why fight , you both are n00bs | 18:28 |
| paultag | vish: :) sure are | 18:28 |
| paultag | vish: 2010-02-26 for you :) | 18:29 |
| vish | :) | 18:29 |
| vish | I'm n00b for ever :) | 18:30 |
| ddecator | everybody is...except pitti | 18:30 |
| jcastro | http://design.canonical.com/2010/07/the-ubuntu-font/ | 18:33 |
| nigelb | yaaay! | 18:33 |
| paultag | jcastro: is it official? | 18:33 |
| jcastro | I am just waiting for planet to refresh to add the members | 18:33 |
| nigelb | wow, I feel special! | 18:33 |
| nigelb | private PPA for ubuntu members | 18:34 |
| jcastro | I don't want people getting the invite before the instructions | 18:34 |
| paultag | jcastro: can I talk about it? | 18:34 |
| jcastro | paultag: that's a public url | 18:34 |
| paultag | Righto | 18:34 |
| paultag | thanks jcastro | 18:34 |
| jcastro | how often does planet refresh? | 18:36 |
| jcastro | every 20 or so? | 18:36 |
| paultag | jcastro: 30 minutes IIRC | 18:36 |
| nigelb | paultag: officially | 18:36 |
| nigelb | unoffically, much faster | 18:36 |
| paultag | nigelb: well you have the avg time of TTL * 1/2 ( on avg ), so the avg wait should be ~ 15 minutes | 18:37 |
| nigelb | paultag: that too | 18:37 |
| ddecator | now i want to test it :( | 18:39 |
| paultag | ddecator: it's wicked nice, want a screenshot? | 18:39 |
| ddecator | paultag: no, don't ruin it for me :p | 18:40 |
| jcastro | man you are kidding me | 18:41 |
| jcastro | adding ubuntumembers is oopsing launchpad | 18:41 |
| paultag | Oh noes! | 18:42 |
| ddecator | heh | 18:42 |
| jcastro | ok whew | 18:42 |
| paultag | ddecator: suffer! http://people.ubuntu.com/~paultag/NewFont.png | 18:42 |
| jcastro | when someone gets the mail from lp please holler | 18:42 |
| ddecator | the temptation... | 18:42 |
| nigelb | jcastro: I did | 18:42 |
| ddecator | paultag: GAH! | 18:43 |
| nigelb | actally I got from you | 18:43 |
| jcastro | oh awesome | 18:43 |
| Pendulum | jcastro: got it | 18:43 |
| jcastro | I get the good karma then | 18:43 |
| ddecator | o.o | 18:43 |
| ddecator | i approve of this font | 18:43 |
| AlanBell | can i haz font | 18:43 |
| nigelb | AlanBell: you haz mail! | 18:44 |
| * AlanBell gets a nice email | 18:44 | |
| jcastro | does the email really say from me? | 18:44 |
| nigelb | yes | 18:44 |
| jcastro | awesome | 18:44 |
| nigelb | It shows up with Jorge O Castro | 18:44 |
| jcastro | the one perk of all this work. :p | 18:44 |
| AlanBell | and there is a link to find out more about you! | 18:44 |
| paultag | haha | 18:44 |
| paultag | I has no email :'( | 18:44 |
| ddecator | paultag: you has font already | 18:45 |
| paultag | :P | 18:45 |
| * nigelb steals paultag's contacts | 18:45 | |
| jcastro | ddecator: I invited the councils yesterday so we could test the PPA, etc. | 18:46 |
| AlanBell | right, now I have to just uninstall the font that accidentally fell out of the typography PDF | 18:46 |
| ddecator | jcastro: ah, makes sense | 18:46 |
| paultag | nigelb: I actually _just_ fixed that | 18:46 |
| paultag | nigelb: because there are work folks on there | 18:46 |
| nigelb | paultag: LOL | 18:46 |
| jcastro | I didn't want PMs from 600+ people without testing the instructionws | 18:47 |
| paultag | nigelb: F5 on it :) | 18:47 |
| nigelb | paultag: I saved the old version before I F5'd ;) | 18:47 |
| paultag | nigelb: :) | 18:47 |
| nigelb | paultag: I worked for a medical transcription company and they had a help file. Some smart alec in tech did screencast without removivng sensitive information. He got hell for it. | 18:49 |
| paultag | Doh! | 18:49 |
| jcastro | can you guys test that font tool | 18:49 |
| paultag | jcastro: doing it now | 18:49 |
| jcastro | rock | 18:49 |
| paultag | jcastro: lol at the prince of bell air ref :) | 18:49 |
| Technoviking | nhandler: what is up | 18:51 |
| paultag | No issues | 18:51 |
| paultag | looks good | 18:51 |
| nigelb | the people who got ubuntu membership at y'day's meetings must be thrilled | 18:51 |
| paultag | ahaha | 18:52 |
| paultag | for sure | 18:52 |
| paultag | good for them, they deserve it | 18:52 |
| nigelb | paultag: especially buxy :p | 18:52 |
| Technoviking | is India in the EAMA or Asia /Oceanic board. I assume the latter | 18:53 |
| nigelb | Asia | 18:54 |
| Technoviking | thanks | 18:54 |
| Technoviking | how about the Kurdish team? | 18:56 |
| nigelb | not sure | 18:57 |
| Technoviking | czajkowski and popey: ping? | 18:57 |
| nigelb | Technoviking: which country? | 18:57 |
| Technoviking | Kurdistan, Middle East. Been a long time since high school geograpical | 18:58 |
| Technoviking | :) | 18:58 |
| nigelb | Technoviking: because the countries that use the language according to wikipedia are spread across europe/asia | 18:58 |
| nigelb | turkey is in europe isn't it? | 18:58 |
| nigelb | but iran, iraq, and syria would be asia | 18:59 |
| Technoviking | nigelb: thought a small part still was | 18:59 |
| nigelb | Technoviking: Its been a long time since my last geography lesson too :( | 19:00 |
| jcastro | nigelb: yeah I was watching the membership meeting yesterday and was like "heh" | 19:02 |
| nigelb | jcastro: which one? EU/africa one? | 19:04 |
| jcastro | I don't remember, the one yesterday? | 19:04 |
| AlanBell | oooh lots of glyphs | 19:04 |
| * nigelb goes to check | 19:05 | |
| jcastro | I see gustavo and fagan didn't read the directions! | 19:05 |
| paultag | jcastro: come up with a canned RTFM response :) | 19:05 |
| jcastro | are any of you on i386? | 19:06 |
| IdleOne | jcastro: ubuntu keyserver is not responding :/ | 19:06 |
| jcastro | you don't need the key, it just spits out warnings | 19:06 |
| paultag | IdleOne: that's the only repo with the key, too. Kinda a big deal :( | 19:06 |
| IdleOne | not like you can do anything about it I suppose but I felt the need to whine | 19:06 |
| * IdleOne breaks out the cheese | 19:07 | |
| paultag | IdleOne: that fscking server breaks all the time. Someone needs to fix it | 19:07 |
| paultag | I removed it from my seahorse because it hangs the interface | 19:08 |
| IdleOne | package name is ? | 19:08 |
| IdleOne | just to confirm | 19:08 |
| IdleOne | and can I post it in here? | 19:08 |
| paultag | IdleOne: ubuntu-private-nda-fonts | 19:08 |
| IdleOne | hmm | 19:09 |
| paultag | IdleOne: it's in the email | 19:09 |
| IdleOne | yeah I wanted to confirm | 19:09 |
| IdleOne | thank you :) | 19:09 |
| paultag | sure | 19:09 |
| AlanBell | where can we file bugs with the font? | 19:09 |
| jcastro | AlanBell: use the font tool | 19:10 |
| jcastro | it's on the blog post | 19:10 |
| IdleOne | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntufontbetatesting/+filebug | 19:11 |
| AlanBell | great | 19:11 |
| jcastro | use the tool though, we need to test it | 19:11 |
| jcastro | plus it has clever bits from prince of bel air | 19:11 |
| IdleOne | it really upsets me when I am unable to get something as simple as a PPA added and working to my sources :/ | 19:11 |
| AlanBell | will do, I have been looking at the font in fontforge, it looks pretty good | 19:12 |
| IdleOne | this is the correct repo: | 19:12 |
| IdleOne | deb https://private-ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-font-beta-testing/ppa/ubuntu maverick main | 19:12 |
| IdleOne | I am on maverick yes | 19:12 |
| jcastro | no | 19:13 |
| jcastro | that's not correct | 19:13 |
| AlanBell | don't you need your magic key in that | 19:13 |
| jcastro | how did you add the sources list? | 19:13 |
| IdleOne | manually | 19:13 |
| IdleOne | ok so what is the correct source? | 19:14 |
| jcastro | it should be deb http://yourname:2348958723947523948572349752otherstuff | 19:14 |
| jcastro | http://launchpad.net/people/+me/+archivesubscriptions | 19:14 |
| IdleOne | ahh | 19:14 |
| jcastro | and click the View link | 19:14 |
| IdleOne | ugh still not finding the package | 19:16 |
| IdleOne | jcastro: I was having a good day till I got the email :P | 19:16 |
| jcastro | it's ok, at least you tried to read the directions! | 19:16 |
| * jcastro stares at popey | 19:16 | |
| IdleOne | haha | 19:16 |
| jcastro | when you click on the View link | 19:17 |
| jcastro | it will give you a long URL | 19:17 |
| jcastro | you need to paste that into your /etc/apt/sources.list | 19:17 |
| IdleOne | yup did that and edited for my version and ran apt-get update | 19:17 |
| * AlanBell is quite impressed so far | 19:18 | |
| * AlanBell wants the bold version though | 19:18 | |
| jcastro | paultag: can one of you guys help him? The entire ubuntu membership is PMing me | 19:18 |
| paultag | jcastro: Oh lawdy. Yeah. | 19:18 |
| paultag | IdleOne: is it 401 or 403 or 404ing you? | 19:19 |
| IdleOne | 401 | 19:19 |
| paultag | IdleOne: it's normal | 19:19 |
| paultag | IdleOne: wait about 5 minutes | 19:19 |
| IdleOne | okie dokie | 19:19 |
| paultag | IdleOne: cool? | 19:19 |
| IdleOne | no waiting | 19:20 |
| IdleOne | will try in 5-10 | 19:20 |
| paultag | pleia2: poke | 19:20 |
| paultag | IdleOne: aye | 19:20 |
| pleia2 | paultag: hey, morning :) | 19:20 |
| paultag | pleia2: morning! :) | 19:20 |
| paultag | pleia2: mind if I shoot you a PM? Small issue RE a topic you could guess at ;) | 19:21 |
| * IdleOne waves to pleia2 o/ | 19:21 | |
| pleia2 | paultag: go ahead (no need to ask :)) | 19:21 |
| pleia2 | hey IdleOne | 19:21 |
| paultag | pleia2: righto :) | 19:21 |
| nigelb | pleia2: hey! welcome back :) | 19:23 |
| pleia2 | thanks nigelb :) | 19:23 |
| IdleOne | I like this font | 19:26 |
| paultag | IdleOne: so it installed, eh? | 19:26 |
| cjohnston | pleia2: can you send me the link to our schedule for saturday? | 19:26 |
| IdleOne | paultag: yes, just needed a little patience :) | 19:26 |
| paultag | IdleOne: life lessons :) | 19:26 |
| IdleOne | heh | 19:26 |
| IdleOne | I got plenty to learn | 19:26 |
| pleia2 | cjohnston: the raw schedule that we <<include>> in other pages is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDaysTeam/lucid | 19:27 |
| pleia2 | otherwise use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays | 19:27 |
| cjohnston | for our availablity schedule | 19:27 |
| IdleOne | paultag: so what am I looking for in terms of bugs? | 19:28 |
| IdleOne | never tested a beta font before | 19:28 |
| Andre_Gondim | jcastro, I insert the ppa for the new ubuntu font, I did update and upgrade, and nothing happens... | 19:28 |
| paultag | IdleOne: font artifacts etc | 19:28 |
| cjohnston | Andre_Gondim: did you install it? | 19:28 |
| cjohnston | and then change the font in appearance | 19:29 |
| * popey hugs jcastro | 19:29 | |
| Andre_Gondim | cjohnston, hmmm, I don't think so, let me see how to do this, I only insert the new ppa | 19:29 |
| jcastro | Andre_Gondim: they'll sort you, I've been working on this all day, gotta take a break, bbi 15 minutes | 19:30 |
| cjohnston | Andre_Gondim: instructions are on planet.ubuntu.com | 19:30 |
| AlanBell | Andre_Gondim: install the ubuntu-private-nda-fonts package that should now be in synaptic | 19:31 |
| nigelb | jcastro: as an after thought, worth havig your name in the mail (I'd say if you get less than 100 pings today, you'd be lucky :P) | 19:31 |
| nigelb | ? | 19:31 |
| AlanBell | jcastro: just send everyone in here | 19:31 |
| jcastro | 52 windows so far | 19:31 |
| nigelb | oh, you can get to 100 ;) | 19:32 |
| AlanBell | jcastro: set an /away message sending them in here and go do something else | 19:32 |
| nigelb | AlanBell: +1 | 19:32 |
| vish | yeah , neat AlanBell | 19:32 |
| jcastro | AlanBell: let's do it in #ayatana instead | 19:32 |
| jcastro | how's that? | 19:33 |
| pleia2 | doh, cjohnston left, I think nigelb created an etherpad somewhere... | 19:33 |
| nigelb | pleia2: err,hold on | 19:33 |
| AlanBell | jcastro: fine by me (/me joins #ayatana) | 19:33 |
| vish | hrm , is it me or are the new fonts are seriously making it difficult to focus.. | 19:35 |
| paultag | vish: :P | 19:36 |
| nigelb | vish: its you, get glasses old man :D | 19:36 |
| vish | kinda hurts :( | 19:36 |
| * nigelb runs. fast. | 19:36 | |
| * pleia2 fails at finding link in logs | 19:36 | |
| nigelb | pleia2: I gave him link | 19:36 |
| nigelb | my memory seems to be better than my logs | 19:37 |
| pleia2 | nigelb: can you send me the link too? | 19:37 |
| nigelb | sure | 19:37 |
| * vish muuussstt nooot trryyy tooo reaaad.. look away! | 19:40 | |
| pleia2 | doctormo: docs/manual/learning collaboration meeting this weekend (20:00 UTC on saturday in #ubuntu-manual), will you be around? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-learning/2010-July/000170.html | 19:45 |
| pleia2 | doctormo: fwiw, I don't care which way we go format-wise, I have those docbook drafts I showed you but am not really invested, I just want some kind of answer from the other teams | 19:46 |
| czajkowski | Technoviking: you rang | 19:46 |
| nhandler | Technoviking: They were going to post a UUD forum post and I said that you would probably be able to help sticky it when ready | 19:50 |
| emmajane | I'm getting a 401 error message on the ppa. :( | 19:55 |
| nhandler | emmajane: Give it 10-15 minutes, it should go away | 19:56 |
| nigelb | emmajane: everyone's hammering it ;) | 19:57 |
| emmajane | nigelb, 401 is "unauthorized" | 19:58 |
| nigelb | ugh, oh yeah | 19:58 |
| paultag | emmajane: wait a few minutes | 19:58 |
| pleia2 | nhandler: has someone been assigned to updating the learning calendar for the actual dev week sessions? | 19:59 |
| nhandler | pleia2: I don't know. I thought akgraner was going to take care of that, but I might be imagining things again | 19:59 |
| pleia2 | nhandler: thanks, I'll touch base with her then :) | 20:00 |
| ara_ | jussi, hi | 20:02 |
| nhandler | Hey ara_ | 20:02 |
| ara_ | jussi, how was the irc command to release a nick | 20:02 |
| ara_ | it was 30seconds before i could put my passwd | 20:02 |
| nhandler | ara_: /msg nickserv help release | 20:02 |
| ara_ | nhandler, thanks! | 20:03 |
| nhandler | You're welcome ara_ | 20:03 |
| === ara_ is now known as ara | ||
| ddecator | wb ara ;) | 20:05 |
| ara | ddecator, :) | 20:05 |
| nigelb | ara: Not watching the game? | 20:06 |
| ara | I was, but I have a meeting now at | 20:06 |
| ara | #ubuntu-qualit | 20:06 |
| ara | y | 20:06 |
| ara | if you want to join us | 20:06 |
| nigelb | oh yes | 20:07 |
| ara | nigelb, what time it is for you? | 20:07 |
| nigelb | ara: 0030 | 20:08 |
| jcastro | emmajane: how did you add the PPA? | 20:09 |
| emmajane | jcastro, I finally got it working. | 20:10 |
| jcastro | rock | 20:10 |
| emmajane | jcastro, usability fail though | 20:10 |
| jcastro | probably lp churning | 20:10 |
| jcastro | yeah, private PPA usage is not close to ideal | 20:10 |
| emmajane | jcastro, and I don't understand the messages on the fonttest site wanting control of everything? | 20:11 |
| paultag | apt was not made for access levels jcastro :) | 20:11 |
| paultag | emmajane: prob to get your email, name and username, I think | 20:11 |
| emmajane | paultag, then it should say that. It doesn't though. | 20:11 |
| paultag | emmajane: because it's using the launchpad lib | 20:12 |
| vish | emmajane: that is the regular lp lib | 20:12 |
| emmajane | "Change anything" The application will be able to access Launchpad on your behalf for reading and changing anything, including private data. | 20:12 |
| paultag | emmajane: and it's a generic login method | 20:12 |
| vish | :) | 20:12 |
| paultag | emmajane: so don't click it. I did read only | 20:12 |
| vish | paultag: if you set to read only , i get weird errors , i fond setting to "change anything" good | 20:12 |
| vish | wfm | 20:12 |
| emmajane | Grant it "no access" and it gives you a failure screen that you can't move forward from. | 20:12 |
| paultag | vish: Mine was fine | 20:12 |
| paultag | emmajane: well yes. It depends on knowing who you are | 20:13 |
| paultag | Read all should be fine | 20:13 |
| vish | "Additionally, when prompted to give apport-collect permissions for Launchpad you will need to give it at least the ability to "Change Non-Private" data as it will be adding information to your bug report." | 20:13 |
| vish | thats what we mention for collect it^ | 20:13 |
| paultag | vish: I don't think that tool is apport | 20:14 |
| Technoviking | czajkowski: the loco forum are re-organized. :) | 20:14 |
| vish | paultag: yeah , its not apport , but those are the permissions it seems to require [for me] | 20:15 |
| paultag | vish: it was fine read only for me | 20:15 |
| vish | paultag: is it a known bug about the bold font? | 20:15 |
| Technoviking | czajkowski: and Matthew was able answer a loco question I had | 20:16 |
| vish | the top is blurry.. | 20:16 |
| paultag | vish: don't know. Report it | 20:16 |
| vish | paultag: oh , ! it was AlanBell who mentioned it /me got mixed up :) | 20:16 |
| james_w | vish: "For now, only the regular is available for testing, bold comes next." <- from the blog | 20:16 |
| james_w | if you have bold now then it is just making the regular font bold, so it will look rubbish | 20:17 |
| jcastro | yeah, don't use it as the titlebar font | 20:17 |
| vish | ah... | 20:17 |
| jcastro | or the terminal font | 20:17 |
| vish | james_w: thanks | 20:17 |
| jcastro | it will just be ewww | 20:17 |
| AlanBell | yeah, it is a computed bold only at the moment | 20:17 |
| Technoviking | jcastro: not horrid as a bold font | 20:18 |
| * AlanBell has it as a terminal font | 20:18 | |
| jcastro | http://code.google.com/webfonts | 20:20 |
| jcastro | have you all seen those? | 20:20 |
| czajkowski | Technoviking: coolio, thank you | 20:20 |
| vish | hehe , I read this and jumped to the end :D "I want to tell you but I also want you to read the rest of the announcement so I am going to put that information at the end" | 20:20 |
| nigelb | vish: LOL | 20:21 |
| vish | the very next line is about the bold font! | 20:21 |
| nigelb | vish: you've been cursed. you can never see clearly wth that font | 20:21 |
| vish | nigelb: yeah , something is messing with my eyes.. not sure what/why :( | 20:22 |
| jcastro | JFo: everytime I try to screenshot and I end up sysreqing my machine to death I think of you. | 20:35 |
| JFo | heh | 20:35 |
| jcastro | on a more serious note, my new laptop is getting smoked battery with this irq balancer thing, do I need to hand it over to someone at the sprint? | 20:36 |
| paultag | jcastro: cmd might be at OLF | 20:42 |
| paultag | jcastro: and I think he played with that IIRC | 20:42 |
| JFo | jcastro, yeah, bring it on | 20:46 |
| JFo | I'm sure the guys will want to look it over | 20:46 |
| doctormo | jcastro: Access to a PAA? | 20:48 |
| doctormo | jono: Do you know anything about this private ppa? | 21:26 |
| paultag | yes doctormo | 21:27 |
| paultag | doctormo: it's for the new ubuntu font | 21:27 |
| doctormo | ah ok | 21:27 |
| paultag | doctormo: you should read teh email | 21:27 |
| doctormo | What email? for the private ppa? it says "None" | 21:27 |
| paultag | doctormo: the email contents | 21:27 |
| jcastro | doctormo: see planet! | 21:27 |
| paultag | jcastro: you might as well sign out | 21:28 |
| paultag | jcastro: how many PMs have you got? | 21:28 |
| jcastro | 52 total | 21:28 |
| jcastro | heh, it's ok | 21:28 |
| doctormo | hmm Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-font-beta-testing/ppa/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found | 21:29 |
| doctormo | paultag: Explain | 21:29 |
| paultag | doctormo: chill | 21:30 |
| duanedesign | doctormo: i noticed the not says add-apt-repository does not work with ppa | 21:30 |
| paultag | doctormo: wait about 10 minutes | 21:30 |
| paultag | doctormo: it takes time to set up | 21:30 |
| nhandler | paultag: That is for a 401, not 404 | 21:30 |
| paultag | doctormo: don't forget to include the GPG key as well | 21:30 |
| paultag | nhandler: I got a 404 as well | 21:30 |
| paultag | nhandler: I got a 403, 401 and 404 | 21:30 |
| nhandler | doctormo: You need to use the special sources.list entries that contain your password (if you weren't) | 21:30 |
| paultag | wait it out doctormo. Check in 10 minutes or so | 21:31 |
| duanedesign | ahh | 21:31 |
| james_w | paultag: waiting won't fix that one! | 21:31 |
| paultag | james_w: lies! I got a 404, unless I fixed it unwittingly, which I am known to do :) | 21:31 |
| james_w | read the error message, it's not the address of this ppa. add-apt-repository won't work for private ppas | 21:31 |
| paultag | Ahha, nevermind | 21:31 |
| paultag | nhandler: james_w, you must both be right. I'm getting ganged up on | 21:32 |
| paultag | Help, Help, I'm being repressed! | 21:32 |
| duanedesign | lol | 21:32 |
| doctormo | The password in the sources list? | 21:35 |
| doctormo | seriously? | 21:35 |
| paultag | doctormo: dude, apt was not made for authentication | 21:35 |
| paultag | doctormo: you can't have it prompt for a password or lp authenticate on an apt-get update | 21:35 |
| paultag | doctormo: so just ID off a secret hash, and if it gets comprimised, just blast it and generate a new one | 21:36 |
| doctormo | paultag: For my launchpad password? | 21:40 |
| paultag | doctormo: you're launchpad password is not in there... | 21:40 |
| paultag | erm | 21:40 |
| paultag | your | 21:40 |
| paultag | reverse bad grammer | 21:40 |
| paultag | doctormo: what makes you think your LP password is in there? | 21:40 |
| paultag | bbl | 21:43 |
| highvoltage | I still get 401 on it | 21:44 |
| jcastro | highvoltage: takes about ~5 minutes | 21:49 |
| jcastro | ensure what's in your sources.list matches what it says on http://launchpad.net/people/+me/+archivesubscriptions | 21:50 |
| jcastro | (you need to click on the view link) | 21:50 |
| jcastro | it's like deb https://jorge:3249235490562389475689346528934blahblahblah | 21:50 |
| emmajane | highvoltage, it takes longer for Canadians. ;) | 21:58 |
| duanedesign | aha thanks jcastro. | 22:01 |
| jcastro | emmajane: I excluded him, that's how tired of vuvuzelas I am | 22:01 |
| * emmajane tries to parse that. | 22:02 | |
| jcastro | emmajane: he's south african | 22:10 |
| jcastro | and that's where vuvuzelas come from | 22:10 |
| emmajane | AH! | 22:10 |
| jcastro | therefore everytime I hear one I think of highvoltage | 22:10 |
| emmajane | heh | 22:10 |
| dinda | jcastro: what's this ppa you just sent access to? | 22:12 |
| jcastro | dinda: see planet ubuntu! | 22:12 |
| highvoltage | jcastro: I got sick of vuvuzelas the first day of the world cup already :) | 22:13 |
| dinda | jcastro: ok | 22:13 |
| highvoltage | and then I made the mistake of bringing mine to the office in canada :) | 22:14 |
| jcastro | Man, if I were around and I actually saw a real vuvuzela I don't know what I would do | 22:14 |
| jcastro | I would lose it | 22:14 |
| jcastro | I personally can't wait to see someone try it at UDS | 22:14 |
| * dinda imagines someone witha vuvuzela at a hockey game - heh! | 22:16 | |
| jcastro | dinda: we might steal mike modano from you texans today! | 22:16 |
| dinda | jcastro: Texans are so dead to me. all Houston team suc this year | 22:17 |
| dinda | I need a new hometown for sports | 22:17 |
| jcastro | I meant "texans" as a people, he played for the Dallas Stars | 22:17 |
| highvoltage | I guess my chances of ever getting UDS sponsorship ever again now dropped to below 0% even :) | 22:17 |
| jcastro | vuvuzelas in the uds pic would be classic | 22:18 |
| dinda | jcastro: see how out of touch I am with all sports but baseball | 22:20 |
| jcastro | heh | 22:21 |
| jcastro | man, if you guys think I'm annoying now, imagine if I had the power of the vuvuzela | 22:21 |
| doctormo | jcastro: You'd be like a stadium full of football supporters? | 22:28 |
| doctormo | dinda: It's great to see you again, not seen you for a while. | 22:32 |
| dinda | doctormo: work has been /is crazy | 22:32 |
| dinda | doctormo: good to see you're at FOSSED | 22:32 |
| doctormo | I am at FOSSed, talking about all sorts of things | 22:33 |
| doctormo | I redid my talk on how to use inkscape and other FOSS tools to make production media like posters etc. | 22:33 |
| doctormo | It went well. | 22:33 |
| doctormo | Time for dinner! talk soon guys | 22:35 |
| Technoviking | ugh, the new font looks uncool in gwibber | 22:37 |
| dinda | does anyone know if Launchpad is localized for Brazil? i.e. can they use it in portuguese? | 22:38 |
| jcastro | doctormo: hey is matt oquist there? | 22:38 |
| Andre_Gondim | dinda, you can chat with me | 22:40 |
| dinda | Andre_Gondim: sure | 22:40 |
| jcastro | hey maco | 23:08 |
| jcastro | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-font-beta-testing/+archive/ppa | 23:08 |
| jcastro | I updated the instructions | 23:08 |
| jcastro | and posted them to the comments on the design blog | 23:08 |
| jcastro | are the comments slow to show up? | 23:08 |
| jcastro | I wonder if it ate mine | 23:08 |
| jono | jcastro, ping? | 23:25 |
| jcastro | jono: pong | 23:25 |
| jono | jcastro, for UNE, should I be using the Maverick packages or a PPA? | 23:25 |
| jono | I am running Maverick | 23:26 |
| jcastro | maverick | 23:26 |
| jono | ok cool | 23:26 |
| jcastro | the PPA was only for lucid | 23:26 |
| jcastro | but people used it anyway until we uploaded to maverick | 23:26 |
| jono | weirdly I don't see anything in the places launcher | 23:26 |
| jcastro | if you have it in your sources.list and you're on maverick you can remove it | 23:26 |
| jono | I don't see places or apps | 23:26 |
| jcastro | ah, you ran into a weird transition like me | 23:27 |
| jcastro | one sec | 23:27 |
| jono | I installed the extra packages | 23:27 |
| jcastro | ensure unity-place-applications and unity-places-files is installed | 23:27 |
| jono | oh hang on, it seems I have a half b0rked install | 23:28 |
| jcastro | also there is some mouse click weirdness going on in UNE that they haven't fixed yet | 23:28 |
| jcastro | so like if you click indicators the exit events don't register, etc. | 23:29 |
| jcastro | it basically runs "odd" | 23:29 |
| jono | right | 23:29 |
| maco | jcastro: thanks | 23:31 |
| jcastro | maco: comments still haven't shown up. :-/ | 23:31 |
| nhandler | jcastro: Are they moderated on the blog? | 23:32 |
| jcastro | I don't think so | 23:32 |
| jono | jcastro, I am hoping gimp isnt crashy for me anymore | 23:33 |
| jcastro | Technoviking: heh, I think they look best in gwibber and empathy chat | 23:33 |
| jono | I imagine a GTK update fixed the issue I had | 23:33 |
| jcastro | when was the last time you updated? | 23:33 |
| jcastro | jono: also, don't hit printscreen for screenshots | 23:34 |
| jono | a while back as this box is bust | 23:34 |
| jcastro | there's a kernel bug that translates that into a sysrq key press | 23:34 |
| jono | network card is getting fixed this week | 23:34 |
| jono | so I am back to normal | 23:35 |
| jono | lol | 23:35 |
| jono | np | 23:35 |
| jcastro | and you'll inadvertantly crash your machine | 23:35 |
| jcastro | and sit through an fsck | 23:35 |
| jono | fun | 23:35 |
| jcastro | I blame jfo | 23:35 |
| jono | everyone should | 23:35 |
| jcastro | yeah, on top of that I got a laptop with awesome battery life and sold my beloved thinkpad | 23:37 |
| jcastro | and then run into a kernel bug that decimates my battery life | 23:38 |
| paultag | jcastro: you should try the 2.24 kernel | 23:38 |
| jcastro | paultag: I'll just let them have their way with it so it can be fixed for everyone | 23:39 |
| paultag | old == stable, right? | 23:39 |
| jcastro | paultag: did jfo submit to ohiolinux? | 23:39 |
| jcastro | iirc he was interested in a talk? | 23:39 |
| paultag | jcastro: I don't know. Did not hear much about it. I'm not up-to-date on who is talking | 23:39 |
| jcastro | cool, I'll ping beth | 23:39 |
| jcastro | paultag: let's do some lightning talks on the friday | 23:40 |
| paultag | jcastro: sure thing, I'm there | 23:40 |
| paultag | jcastro: after we finish up friday, I'm sure we can find somewhere to snag some drinks. See if we can get an Ubuntu takeover of a local bar :) | 23:41 |
| jcastro | heh, so just like last time | 23:42 |
| paultag | jcastro:"The same thing we do every night, Pinky try to take over the world!" | 23:43 |
| paultag | jcastro: did you ever see the Ubuntini? | 23:45 |
| jcastro | paultag: working on getting a local place to put it on the menu | 23:45 |
| jcastro | almost had them at my wedding but got cheap | 23:45 |
| paultag | Aww! | 23:45 |
| paultag | jcastro: 10% off for Ubuntu Members. Just plug in a USB key with your GPG Public key on it, loop up against LP, pull the photo and name, and boom! | 23:47 |
| jono | jcastro, wow | 23:53 |
| jono | running the gimp *screws* things up | 23:53 |
| jono | :) | 23:53 |
| jono | try it | 23:53 |
| jono | in unity | 23:53 |
| jcastro | in the middle of a really detailed blog post, gimme 10? | 23:54 |
| jono | sure | 23:54 |
| jono | also quick q | 23:54 |
| jono | what is the env variable to turn off the second menu in GTK apps? | 23:54 |
| jcastro | ouch | 23:54 |
| jcastro | it totally broke my desktop | 23:54 |
| jcastro | can't click | 23:54 |
| jono | what did? | 23:55 |
| jcastro | running gimp | 23:55 |
| jono | haha | 23:55 |
| jono | it flashes like crazy here | 23:55 |
| jcastro | I can't click | 23:55 |
| jcastro | and holy crap, that menu is out of control | 23:55 |
| jono | hehe | 23:56 |
| jcastro | kenvandine knows the variable, I don't know it offhand | 23:56 |
| doctormo | It happens, it's trying to unify all icons into just one button. | 23:56 |
| jcastro | I suspect we'll turn off the double menus next weekish | 23:56 |
| jono | thanks jcastro | 23:57 |
| jono | doctormo, is there a bug filed for this? | 23:57 |
| jcastro | jono: tomorrow is dx release day, I'll follow up | 23:58 |
| jono | thanks jcastro | 23:58 |
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