[00:14] evening guys. this knetworkmanager stuff is still confusing as hell [00:14] i created a new connection besides the automatic one, called LAN... featuring a static ip [00:14] how can i make it the default connection tho? [00:15] whenever i reboot networkmanager returns to using the automatic / default connection === manager is now known as Pitou [01:28] hey guys, my krusader stopped working [01:29] it segfaults at startup: http://pastebin.com/f5L4yjXN [01:29] it worked today just a few hours ago [01:29] i reinstalled it form the repo, same problem [01:29] could this be because of some updates from other parts in kde? [01:42] ReHello channel. i installed kubuntu with an cd iso (10.04) burned onto a dvd. its a matsushita (matshita) uj-850S. the dvd will read and write, but the cd will not read or write. it will not show up at all in kubuntu, but it will spin and make noises as though it can read it. i just put in the same iso burned onto a cd (done on another comp), and it reads it, so it is in the settings somewhere. does anyone know how to change the settings so [01:42] that kubuntu will read the cd's? [01:43] cato37: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [01:43] the flood blocker came on. did anyone hear my request? [01:43] or do i have to type it into little tiny sentences? [01:44] you were not given +q === Khaotic is now known as JDK [01:45] hello maco. what is a +q? [01:45] quiet [01:45] there was no flood block [01:45] keen. it must have just been a warning. :) [01:46] yep [01:46] the only cd that my laptop will read is the kubuntu install cd. :( === yofel_ is now known as yofel [02:49] anyone know how to get the cd to play in kubuntu? install problems === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [03:29] Where do you config wireless card? knetworkmanager does nothing [03:29] Either off the menu or entered in konsole.. knetworkmanager just returns and does nothing === robin is now known as Guest49753 [04:06] i had to use wicd because there was a glitch in knetwork manager that greyed out all of the controls. i then apt-got the ubuntu network manager. [04:06] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper [04:06] pencil: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper [04:11] pencil: sorry wrong url. it is the ubuntu help page that shows how to install the nm-applet (network manager) for ubuntu. [04:16] cato37: can't install anything until I have networking.. === dan_ is now known as dan_l [04:27] pencil: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3111291.msg234284#msg234284 [04:27] i hope that helps. the café here is closing. oh, you cant get on thenet. [04:28] in konsole try this in sudo [04:28] service network-manager stop [04:28] rm /var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.state [04:28] service network-manager start [04:31] hi guys , need help with grub chainloading [04:31] anyone free ? [04:31] oh dear. [04:32] what verison of grub harm? [04:35] Guys , can we chainload Grub from Grub2 [04:35] Grub2 is on /dev/sda and Grub is on /dev/sda9 [04:36] on /dev/sda9 --- Fedora is installaed ( with bootloader ) [04:36] i wanna chainload to Grub [05:11] i just installed kubuntu and when i scan for wireless connections, it doesn't pick mine up. i'm sitting right next to it and it is working because i have other computers connected to the same router using wireless. any ideas? === noname is now known as Guest59085 [06:15] harmandeep: grub2 chainloader syntax shown on post #2 http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/legacy-grub-and-grub2-wars-crash-my-ferrari-and-kubuntu-9-10-a-761234/ [07:11] hi frnds [07:12] having problem with distribution upgrade, using 9.10 karmic [07:12] i cant see the status bar icon or msg which will say "lucid upgrade available [07:13] any help :( [07:39] are there any good recommended video diting software for kde (or linux)? I've found kdenlive but wondering if there is anything better [07:43] avidmux [07:43] openshot [07:44] ^avidemux [07:46] I use avidemux, though I cant merge videos with it [08:20] alo [08:34] Hi [08:43] I have experienced a regualer crash of X every 24 hours the last four days. Anyone have a clue what I should do? Running Kubuntu 32bit 10.04, nvidia prop drivers, Wondering If I should reinstall 9.10 which didn't experience thes problems. But maybe it is kernel related and so I cant escape it... [09:01] hello, i am having a wireless internet problem [09:04] can anyone help with a wireless connection issue? [10:17] hi [10:22] a shame, i can't order any more kubuntu cds :-( [10:24] muesli: ask Riddell [10:25] Riddell: ask :-) [10:25] Riddell: i'm putting them to good use, promised. [10:30] Riddell_: so, essentially i'm asking to become a (k)ubuntu member i guess ;-) [10:30] i'm not sure if i meet the criteria, but you tell me [10:37] muesli: e-mail, I'm going on the day trip now [11:54] muesli: http://www.osdisc.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi/products/linux/kubuntu [12:37] i have no sound, which service can i restart instead of restarting my whole kde? [12:43] hi [13:44] hello, why do i get "Password for 'default' GNOME keyring" on kubuntu every time i try to use svn? [13:47] otswin: add the following line to your ~/.subversion/config file [13:47] password-stores = [13:47] (yes, there is NOTHING after the =) [13:49] oh, nice :) [13:49] why did this do? [13:51] otswin: or rather, enter kwallet [13:51] if you want to use that instead of the gnome keyring [13:51] what* [13:51] no it's ok i don't know to store the passwords [13:59] I don't know how to use wine to install something using an ISO file, can someone help me please? [13:59] Ites: ISO is an image of a CD/DVD, is there CD/DVD for windows? [14:00] is the* [14:00] it's for football manager. i'm sure it runs with wine [14:00] but it's an iso, to install from wine i need to give to path to the .exe file [14:01] it's the image of a CD so i guess you need to mount it first [14:04] how do you do that ? [14:12] Ites: sudo mount -o loop [14:13] i did that Torch, then cd /mnt/disk and ls -l but then i get response 0 [14:13] after that i tried wine setup.exe [14:13] but it did nothing [14:15] or shouldn't i use /mnt/disk as mount point ? [14:15] Ites: it does not matter, the mount point just has to exist. [14:15] ? [14:16] I don't know if that excists.. [14:18] i just want that iso mounted so i can install the setup.exe using wine, but no idea where to moiunt it [14:32] Ites: it does not matter, the mount point just has to exist. [14:33] well i did mkdir -p /mnt/disk [14:40] hey guys is there a way to prevent this http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/screenshots/panel.png [14:40] the icons go under cairo dock [14:41] alas I cannot get previews on the Folder view Desktop === me is now known as Guest11606 [14:53] hi [14:53] I upgraded to lucid only yesterday [14:53] And since then I cannot change users anymore [14:54] when logged in as user a, I click on k-menu - change user [14:54] and what I get is the screensaver kicks in telling session is blocked and asking for current user's password. [14:55] when entered I'm still in that user's (user a's) session and cannot get to a new session for user B [14:55] anybody knows how to solve this? === martin_ is now known as saftpackl [15:08] hey all [15:08] do you also have problems with flash videos lately? [15:09] if I play embedded online videos they often just end in the middle also if they are way longer [15:13] How can I change my screen resolution in kubuntu? [15:13] It looks odly low.. for the fancy new nvidia card I have. [15:14] I installed the nvidia drivers.. [15:17] mtedder, open the kmenu/ system settings/hardware drivers [15:17] oh yes, I cannot watch youtbue videos after upgrade anymore, screen stays blank [15:18] hardware drivers are not there... [15:18] Guest11606, install flashplugin-nonfree [15:19] mtedder, which nvidia card ? [15:19] BluesKaj: VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 06fd (rev a1) [15:20] That's a Quadro something or other.. === tobias is now known as Guest90546 [15:21] mtedder, that doesn't tell us much , try sudo lshw -C video [15:21] I just installed the nvidia-common nvidia-current nvidia-current-modaliases nvidia-settings packages [15:21] before that, I couldn't get video at all.. The neavou driver just goes black.. doesn't work at all for this vidia card [15:22] I chroot'd in from a gentoo livecd to get a working video driver installed [15:22] mtedder, try the command I posted pls [15:24] BluesKaj: ok.. that resulted like this: http://pastebin.com/j2S2Jt4t [15:25] This Quassel is a nice irc client.. [15:25] Also.. my video card is dual monitor.. only one monitor is currently working [15:26] just installed and updated kubuntu. kde is still 4.4.2!!!! [15:26] how do i get 4.4.4 stable? [15:28] mtedder, well, this procedure works most of the time , it should work for you, http://pastebin.com/BA8zhk8B [15:30] hello??? [15:32] vadi01: Did you try googling it? [15:32] vadi01, your question is best asked in #kde [15:33] BluesKaj: perhaps running nvidia-xconfig (the part I didn't do already) will fix it for me.. [15:33] mtedder, most ppl can google but we try to help first [15:33] mtedder, yeah it might [15:33] !info lx-viewer [15:33] Package lx-viewer does not exist in lucid [15:33] !lx-viewer [15:33] what do kubuntu users use to view .dwg files? [15:33] BluesKaj: I just wanted to give him some kind of response.. I know what it feels like to have a problem and nobody responds. [15:34] BluesKaj: in kubuntu how can i ask kde??? [15:36] mtedder: dude that is not the answer to my problem :) [15:40] vadi01 type, /join #kde [15:42] BluesKaj: that i know. but kde is not responsible for such issues [15:44] vadi01,you asked: " how do i get 4.4.4 stable?" , I'm sure they can tell you [15:47] BluesKaj: ok let me rephrase: how do i get updates in kubuntu to upgrade to kde 4.4.4 from kubuntu repos? [15:55] vadi01_,which kubuntu release are you running [16:06] vadi01_, http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.4.4.php === neo_ is now known as neomonkey [16:15] vadi01_, here's the repository to add to your sources.list, deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu lucid main [16:17] Yop [16:17] Y'a t'il des utilisateurs Francais ? [16:17] BluesKaj: 10.0.4 [16:18] :'( [16:19] vadi01_, did yo see my post above ? ( deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu lucid main ) [16:22] vadi01_, it might give a NO_PUBKEY 2836CB0A8AC93F7A warning [16:32] hello [16:34] I'm using Kubuntu Lucid with KDE and Firefox 3.6.6; I found that I cannot use the automatic "send link" option even if I did set TB as default mail program and also in FF preferences. Is this normal? (whatever normal means) Thanks [16:35] For a very short time this did funcion with previous versions of both Kubuntu and FF [16:38] Hi, Have anyone noticed that amarok seems to broke the audio and make flash crash ? [16:39] When I open it, I got "intel bla bla do not work reverting to PulseAudio" [16:39] hello how can i kill all gnuplot process i have a bunch of runaway [16:40] ubsafder, killall [16:41] nice thx [16:44] hello, i recently installed kubuntu, and for some reason, it wont register my wireless internet. [16:44] any suggestions? [16:46] has anyone experienced this problem before? [16:51] anyone recently encountered any issues with kubuntu's sound getting super choppy? .avis played in VLC, youtube videos, and even basic alert sounds are stuttered. [16:52] hey good luck man, i cant get any help either... [16:56] I have problems with sound managing in skype after installing Kubuntu Lucid, but vlc and amarok work well enough === bauerj_ is now known as bauerj [17:20] BluesKaj, it does not complain about no flashplugin being installed, and flashplugin-nonfree is instzalled [17:20] I even marked it for re-installation [17:20] to no avail [17:22] why cant kubuntu developers put kde version updates in their stable trusted repos intead of ppa repos which are stated as UNTRUSTED???? [17:24] anyone can help with my user switchin problem? [17:25] I normally leave my user's account running 24/7 and would prefer not to have to log out in order to give another user a kde session === me is now known as Guest1055 [17:38] anyone wanna try tackling a sound choppiness issue i'm having? [17:38] bonjour === osk is now known as Guest68147 === nekuro is now known as Nekuro [17:43] jjoohhnn, got pulseaudio ? [17:44] re [17:46] BluesKaj: yeah, i just installed it [17:46] BluesKaj: says there's a bug in the ALSA driver "snd_hda_intel"; will google that now [17:50] and I have no more volume control, neither in panel nor by hardware keys - at least nothing to see [17:59] what do kubuntu users use to view .dwg files? [17:59] what kind of files that is? [18:00] Tm_T: it's a cad drawing [18:00] in windows i use solidview lite to view it [18:00] or autocad [18:02] jimmy51_: does qcad do it? [18:02] !info qcad [18:02] qcad (source: qcad): professional CAD system. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.5.0-1+090318-2 (lucid), package size 1228 kB, installed size 3980 kB [18:02] qcad should do [18:02] Tm_T: hmm.... never heard of it. i'll try it [18:05] Tm_T, dragoness: hmm, it looks like it wants dxf files only. === richard is now known as Guest96925 [18:05] jimmy51_: pythoncad ? [18:06] pythoncad can't read .dwg files [18:06] according into the software center [18:06] !info pythoncad [18:06] pythoncad (source: pythoncad): Computer Aided Drafting (CAD) program. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.37.0-1 (lucid), package size 462 kB, installed size 3472 kB [18:07] hi? [18:07] oh, right [18:07] pythoncad couldn't read it either [18:07] i see lx-viewer can (on sourceforge), but it's not in a repo [18:08] dwg's are so popular i figured there be a simple repo solution [18:08] nobody can help with my change user session problem? my flash plugin problem and my volume control prob? [18:09] Guest1055: discribe your problems in more detail and you are more likly to get an answer [18:09] James147, I did before, but I will reiterate [18:10] Guest1055: alot of people come and go, rather thenrefering to past problems its better to redescribe [18:10] after upgrade to lucid yesterday, I cannot change user without closing down current session [18:10] I enter in kmenu click leave and there change user session [18:10] jimmy51_, try sagcad [18:11] the screensaver kicks in saying session is locked and asking for current user's password. After i enter it, session is unlocked, yet still I cannot change the user [18:11] problem two: I cannot watch youtube vids anymore. reinstalled flashplugin-nonfree or flashplugininstaller but to no avail [18:12] firefox does not complain they were not installed, it simply does not show any vid nor sound, though the latter oculd be related to prob 3 [18:13] prob3: I have no more volume control in my panel, nor do I see any change using the laptop's special keys for it [18:14] Guest1055: try running "kmix" to get back your volume control [18:15] ridin: this looks kinda buggy. [18:15] hm? [18:15] errors on start up, open dialog doesn't open what you click on, help button pops error in chinese [18:15] James147, this did not work, nor did it give an error [18:16] Guest1055: as for the flash problem... the only thing I can suggest is to purge both flashplugin-nonfree and flashplugin-installer (sudo aptitude purge ) then to try and reinstall them [18:16] Guest1055: try running it from a terminal see if it tell you anything there [18:17] jimmy51_, not sure what to do then, not very good with linux [18:20] James147, hmm, I get this error: http://pastebin.ca/1896776 [18:21] gue [18:21] Guest1055: which browser do you use? [18:21] dragoness, firefox [18:22] i tried with swftdc and gnash too [18:22] konqueror keeps giving me problems with hotmail mail editing, do I use ff [18:23] but before upgrade ff worked with adobe flahplugin [18:24] Guest1055: I had a similar problem: first I updated ff to 3.6.6; nothing worked; then I upgraded to Lucid 10.4 and flash was fixed automatically [18:24] this refers only to flash problem [18:24] I don't have the slightest idea on what happened [18:24] but flash works now [18:25] hmm [18:28] Guest1055: try "sudo aptitude reinstall locales" then try purging again [18:29] trying [18:30] * shadeslayer_ is here after a long time :P [18:31] wb [18:31] * James147 welcomes shadeslayer_ back [18:31] btw any brave testers around? :D [18:31] shadeslayer_: depends what for :) [18:31] James147: i need someone to test kraft out [18:32] its going to be backported... so need confirmation that it installs and works [18:32] James147: https://edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental [18:32] shadeslayer_: will beable to do that... but I need to do something first, give me about 10min? [18:33] James147: sure.. just add the ppa.... i know it says do not install... but just add it and install kraft ;) [18:33] James147, still the same error. I guess I fiddled with some file in order to set up scim [18:33] shadeslayer_: kk [18:34] James147: ill post the bug link soon,so you can comment on it ;) [18:34] Guest1055: look at http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-319397.html and try some of the fixes there to see if you can get rid of that error [18:34] or maybe.. just a sec [18:34] shadeslayer_: kk, will try it when i get back [18:34] thanks :D [18:35] James147, http://pastebin.ca/1896783 [18:35] ok, will read forum [18:44] does anyone know how to get to the admin tools? === eristik2 is now known as eristikophiles [18:51] i searched a lot on the internet to enable proper recording in my lucid kubuntu... still not able to record with my laptop's in-built mic [18:52] i've just downloaded dwg2dxf, an open source tool. i'm trying to configure/make/make install but am getting errors on the make that are beyond me. anyone care to take a look? http://pastebin.com/jqZHgZEj [18:52] jimmy51_: you're missing the c++ headers [18:53] Torch: hmm, those aren't a part of build-essential? [18:53] jimmy51_: probably not, because it's c++ [18:54] am unable to record using audacity... never have used my in-built mic earlier on kubuntu... works fine on windows [18:54] jimmy51_: there's a libstdc++6-x-y-dev package that goes with your compiler version. install it. [18:54] Torch: do you happen to know the package name? [18:54] Torch: ah [18:56] Torch: i've got libstdc++6-4.4-dev already. [18:56] maybe an environment var issue? [18:56] jimmy51_: it doesn [18:56] oops [18:57] jimmy51_: the compiler does not find iostream.h. either because it's not installed or because it's not lookin in the right place [18:57] James147: bug is here https://launchpad.net/bugs/603276 [18:57] the package should be built fully in 20 mins or so [18:58] Torch: is that an environment variable setting? (where that file and other headers are) [18:58] jimmy51_: no [18:59] jimmy51_: where did you get that download? [18:59] Torch: http://sourceforge.net/projects/lx-viewer/files/ [19:00] jimmy51_: which file? [19:01] Torch: http://sourceforge.net/projects/lx-viewer/files/DWG%20to%20DXF/Command%20Line%20Utility%202.1/ [19:02] jimmy51_: doesn't build here either. lemme see why. [19:02] have a nice time [19:02] bye bye [19:02] Torch: ah, at least it's not just me :) [19:03] can some1 help me ? [19:03] jimmy51_: no, this thing's build system is seriously broken. [19:03] anirudh24seven: sure go ahead [19:04] am not able to enable mic [19:04] Torch: am i pretty much out of luck with this app then? [19:04] jimmy51_: it's also ten years old. that might explain it. [19:04] kmix's title bar reads HDA intel [19:04] anirudh24seven: ok,and which app doesnt read the mic? [19:04] audacity [19:04] Torch: man, i guess i'm stuck with windows for reading cad files then [19:04] jimmy51_: i doubt it will build without modification. c++ compilers have evolved a lot since 1999 ;-) [19:04] eww. [19:04] Torch: at least, cad filese made in autocad. man, 1999! [19:05] anirudh24seven: well.. idk if this will help or not,but in kmix theres a Settings > Configure kmix option [19:05] anirudh24seven: just go there and select all options,or drag them to the right side,then set your mic to full and unmute it [19:06] usually your mic is at a very low volume or is muted [19:06] do i need to enable capture / [19:06] ? [19:06] Torch: thanks for looking into it. i get frustrated trying to compile and install myself. [19:07] anirudh24seven: yes [19:07] jimmy51_: yw, sorry i couldn't make it work for you. [19:08] Torch: no prob, seems like a market problem (no demand for an app for this need) not a technical one [19:09] shadeslayer: i now see a lot of options... Master, PCM, Digital, Mic, Capture, Capture 2, Capture 3, ATAPI Mic, Beep, Mute IEC958 and also 3 drop-down boxes, with the labels Input Source, Input Source 2, Input Source 3... [19:09] yes,see the Digital Mic and Capture options [19:09] all of them should be high and unmuted [19:09] they are... [19:09] do i modify the input sources ? [19:10] not sure what you mean [19:10] but sure... go ahead and play :P [19:10] from the drop down box with the label Input Source, i can see the following options [19:10] Mic, Front Mic, Line, CD [19:11] which one refers to my in-built mic ? [19:11] anirudh24seven: hmmm.. sure .. set it to high [19:11] probably capture 1,2 and digital mic [19:14] there's no option to capture digital mic [19:15] shadeslayer: installing now... [19:16] James147: whee :D [19:17] shadeslayer: installs and runs fine [19:18] James147: can you leave a comment on that bug link? also what does : apt-cache policy say [19:18] uh [19:18] James147: apt-cache policy kraft [19:19] shadeslayer: :S although after i passed the database window it now says there is a problem with The Qt database driver could not be loaded @S [19:20] James147: thats a issue with qt then... not kraft... [19:21] shadeslayer: just saying :) [19:21] James147: ;) [19:23] shadeslayer: apt-cache policy kraft >> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/tNYe49Wh [19:24] James147: thats the old version :) [19:24] :S [19:24] James147: one sec... leeme check the ppa [19:25] James147: amd64 is yet to compile.. you will recieve a notfication [19:25] for a upgrade [19:25] shadeslayer: kk [19:25] James147: thanks again :) [19:25] np === jono_ is now known as jono [19:40] hi!! [19:42] somebody coul tell me how to restore the original config of the plasma panel, i think this is the way is called, in kubuntu 10.04 netbook?? [19:43] my sister erased some panels acidentally and I don't know how to bring them back [19:44] nicolas_: to reset plasma (including the paneel and desktop) delete: ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktoprc (or plasma-desktop-appletsrc or plasmarc) i suggest making a backup of them first [19:45] nicolas_: you can also add panels back by right clicking the desktop > add panel [19:45] (but on kde 4.4.x or ealier they will be blank) [19:45] James147: btw im parting this channel,catch me on #kubuntu-devel ;) [19:45] adding them by right click it doesn't put them back the way they were [19:46] nicolas_: then deleting the above files will (note they will reset your entire desktop back to the default) [19:47] nicolas_: after deleting them you will need to restart plasma-desktop (to do that run: killall plasma-desktop && plasma-desktop) === jussi is now known as jussio1 [19:48] i can't find the folders, how i can fin them, sorry I'm new with linux === jussi01 is now known as jussi [19:49] this folder are in the usr folder? [19:51] nicolas_: ~/ means you home directory (/home/USERNAME) you should just beable to type ~/.kde/share/config/ into dolphin to get stright to it [19:51] nicolas_: also the "." infrount of .kde means that .kde is a hidden folder [19:52] ~/.kde is where all kde config files are kept for your user [19:52] i found them, the .de folder is hidden within the home folder [19:53] nicolas_: the /usr folder is a system folder so you shouldnt find any user level stuff in there [19:54] nicolas_: note: $HOME /home/USERNAME and ~ all point to the same location (if you replace USERNAME with your username :) ) [20:01] i found the .kde folder, but i couldn't find no plasma folder, i have a spanish version of kubuntu maybe is called a different way, [20:02] james147 I'm the same nicolas_ the battery on my netbook went down [20:02] nicolas: did you find ~/.kde/share/config ? [20:04] sorry, yes I jus found them, for some reason i was looking in other directory [20:05] nicolas: ok, then delete, rename or move them and restart plamsa-desktop and your desktop should be back to the default settings [20:06] nicolas: note: almost all kde apps keep theri config files here so if you need to reset a kde application this is normally a good palce to start (some apps keep larger data such as databases in ~/.kde/share/apps) [20:09] ok, I'll do this. Thanks! I'm just starting with linux, I hope I can adapt to it :) . Bye === JDK is now known as Khaotic [20:44] anyone know how to use port forwarding on iptables that can help me make sure it's working and stuff? [20:44] please? === gkffcks is now known as gkffjcs [21:06] Hello... can someone tell me why the GTK app's integration in KDE is... bad? applications like GIMP, Firefox. [21:10] Hello everyone. [21:11] Does anyone have any trouble running Applications through Wine in 10.04? If so, could i get any tips on how to improve performance and prevent crashes? [21:12] Zeik: Wine is highly tempramental :S some things work some just dont... [21:12] !wine | Zeik [21:12] Zeik: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu [21:13] I would like to continue to run Wine as stable as i can like it did in version 1.0.1. But i cannot seem to find a .DEB package for it, i am unable to install it manually and compile it. [21:13] I used it in Kubuntu 8.10 and it was extremely stable, i was able to run just about every single one of my games. [21:14] Zeik: http://www.winehq.org/ the development version is usually better then the stable version for wine (the stable version is very old now and there have been alot of improvments in wine) [21:15] Well, i run an Intel 950 GMA chipset, all of the uptiered versions of Wine have had problems so far on this IGP. [21:16] I would just like to find a .DEB of Wine 1.0.1 [21:16] 10.04, with themed greeter and splash screen disabled, whenever i log in there is a brief flash of the blue default desktop [as plasma loads, i guess], rather than the custom wallpaper or background color, anyone know how to prevent that. [21:16] Zeik: if you need more spific help with it you might want to consider asking on #winehq [21:16] Oh, Wine has a channel? [21:16] Haha, i would have never thought about that. [21:16] Ok, thank you James. [21:16] I appreciate it. [21:19] Oh, nvm. [21:19] I found a webpage hosting a good amount of links to older versions. [21:19] http://www.rpmseek.com/rpm-dl/wine_1.0.1-0ubuntu8_i386.html?hl=com&cx=0:-:0:7728412:0:0:0: [21:23] has someone been playing FM2010 with wine around here ? [21:30] i got an error when i logged in that said something to the effect of internal communication error...make sure dcopserver was running [22:06] So, is kubuntu slowly branching away from ubuntu? [22:06] it has always been the kde one... [22:06] ubuntu should be kde [22:07] but it has a different installer and someone told me there was a bit of a mind to move more away, so it wouldn't be so second-handish, as per Mark Shuttleworth.. [22:07] we could rename it.. you know, somethin glike "kick-buttu" [22:08] the installer is simply rewritten in qt [22:08] solifugus: it has a different installer? arent the installers just frontends? [22:08] Torch: yep [22:09] and the move away... kubuntu sticks to as-vanilla-as-reasonable kde. ubuntu seems to be forking gnome. meh. [22:09] forking? [22:09] well it is nowhere near vanilla [22:10] and gnome2 seems to be living on in its own variety in ubuntu found nowhere else on the linux desktop [22:10] while gnome is moving on to gnome3 [22:10] maco: I'd make some fixes.. kde has become less intuitive in various ways, since 3.5 [22:10] like systemsettings? [22:10] 4.5 is an improvement there [22:11] solifugus: it's just different. [22:11] how do i know which version of kde im running, and how do i get a different version? [22:11] 4.5 will be in 10.10 [22:11] burr__: any kde app: help -> about kde [22:12] 10.04 has 4.4.2 [22:12] Options are great.. but just about everyone hates that desktop activity thing.. and those not familiar with kde really get tripped up on single-click icons.. [22:13] thats tweakable [22:13] to me, kde 3.5 was for everybody--even grandmas.. but kde 4 is for techies... It's all tweakable, but by default.. it's for techies. [22:13] when will be available kde 4.4.92 for lucid ? [22:13] so how do i tweak single-click icons? [22:14] solifugus: 3.5 had single click per default. [22:15] it did.. although I don't mind single-click, i always thought that was a bad thing to have as a default. It takes people a while to stop double-clicking.. in the meanwhile, they get two of everything. [22:15] burr__: if you don't like it, you switch it to double-click.. kde is more customizable than gnome.. [22:15] well i don't mind it [22:15] burr__: in 4.5 its systemsettings -> input devices -> mouse... in 4.4 i think its systemsettings -> mouse and keyboard -> mouse [22:15] neither do i [22:16] maco: yep [22:16] but there are some things i would like to change...such as the application menu [22:16] solifugus: the activities thing changed again [22:16] solifugus: now it's simply teh ability to tie certain plasmoids to certain desktops [22:16] yay for usability testing [22:17] solifugus: see, some people have to unlearn double click so they get 2 things. others have not yet figured out how to click twice quickly so they cant get things that require double click to do anything at all [22:18] try teaching a new person to use a computer. "double click" "whats that?" "click twice" "*slowly click once* *pause* *slowly click again* ... nothing happened" [22:18] maco: that was the argument with kde 1.0... I remember.. but even then, pretty much everybody minus about 0.00001% of people were used to double-click. [22:18] thats because back then everyone using it was a techie :P [22:18] I've always disagreed with that as a default.. even though I like single-click for myself [22:18] now that nontechies use linux, thinking about people who cant handle double clicking actually matters [22:20] maco: first impressions count. Those who cannot double-click are a tiny almost non-existant minority.. those who are annoyed by single-click are almost everyone first introduced to it. [22:20] not a huge deal, though [22:20] solifugus: talk to the people on the kde usability list about this [22:20] solifugus: it won't help much if you discuss it here ;-) [22:20] i just realised i didnt change the default settings at all on this install of kubuntu [22:20] it'd be a troll anywhere.. really.. it's too old an argument [22:21] and ive had this install for a few weeks [22:21] so apparently adjusting to single click isnt that hard, if it took me weeks to notice that i wasnt double clicking [22:21] is there a quick way to lock my desktop, not logout or shutdown? [22:22] ctrl+alt+L i think? [22:22] yep.. that's it.. I'm off to home now.. [22:23] when will be available kde 4.4.92 for lucid ? [22:41] I installed adobe reader 9 available in the repositories but have know acknowledged there's only a deutch version available. how come? [22:53] maco: activities is changing again, but it's not just "certain plasmoids on certain desktops" [22:53] but I don't even think they know what it's suppose to be, themselves [22:53] zePh7r, your repos is based on the location you entered when you installed kubuntu, just change the repository by opening the package manager and choosing the main server [22:54] then sudo apt-get update [22:56] BluesKaj: for real? never thought that would have any effect on the localization of the packages (it's really lame as a matter of fact) [23:00] oh by the the way, even doing what BluesKaj suggested, deutch version is still the only one available on the repos [23:00] zePh7r, well i could be wrong , but that's what I did when my repos were real slow ..never used any repos other than english ones [23:01] hopefully, it's not too much of an hassle to download manually the .deb from adobe servers [23:01] zePh7r, there are alternatives to the adobe reader [23:02] yeah but adobe's still the one that supports the greatest amount of pdf features [23:02] can't browse some pdfs on okular for example [23:04] zePh7r, what about acroread [23:05] isn't that the name of older versions of adobe reader? [23:06] zePh7r, i see both in synaptic [23:06] damn, that's why I couldn't find the en version! It was under a different branding [23:55] hi all , i am use wrong command for update kde 4.5 , i did not use dist-upgrade command, now can i do re update with dist-upgrade :) and pls accept my apologized for my bad english, [23:56] nyavuz: what command did you use? [23:56] apt-get upgrade [23:57] hey - has anyone out there heard of an application/service/whatever that is capable of reading the tags of my media files and re-organizing the folder structure? [23:57] **for kubuntu, of course** [23:58] nyavuz: are you having issues after doing that? [23:58] judax, in net have a documation http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2010/02/dist-upgrade-misnomer-confusion.html but there dont have about kde :-s [23:59] I would also like to rename my tracks, if possible [23:59] judax no dont have issues :) i wanna just try kde 4.5