[02:05] <yofel> wgrant: sorry to bother you, but are you or is anybody else still working on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/156575 ? (As the last update was from over half a year ago)
[02:13] <lifeless> yofel: I'm not aware of anyone hacking on that today.
[02:16] <yofel> well, I just hope someone will get to it eventually. It's a bit of an annoyance :/
[02:29] <wgrant> I have a lot of branches outstanding related to it.
[02:30] <wgrant> yofel: It's mostly done. But the final bits stalled since the resource requirements are not entirely clear.
[02:30] <wgrant> Debug symbols are big.
[02:30] <yofel> indeed, thanks anyway
[02:31] <wgrant> For PPAs, it basically works with the combination of my branches.
[02:31] <wgrant> But the primary archive is special.
[02:32] <wgrant> And it has to work fine with the primary archive too, since stuff is copied from PPAs to the primary archive.
[02:32] <lifeless> wgrant: how about making it part of the quota
[02:32] <wgrant> lifeless: It is.
[02:32] <lifeless> wgrant: wouldn't that eliminate *extra* resource overhead, and provide a 'my packags don't have bugs' knob
[02:33] <wgrant> The primary archive is a concern.
[02:33] <wgrant> Since we keep its binaries almost forever.
[02:33] <lifeless> you mean in the librarian?
[02:34] <lifeless> or something other than the 'keep while the source is published' policy?
[02:34] <wgrant> The librarian.
[02:35] <spm> ah. yes. that could be bad if switched on without a little forewarning.
[02:35] <lifeless> so there are two things there
[02:36] <lifeless> if we stopped keeping all non-release builds
[02:36] <wgrant> The current policy is that we expire non-final binaries when the series goes obsolete.
[02:36] <lifeless> the total disk usage would be approximately that of the existing dbgsym service.
[02:36] <lifeless> and that is managable AIUI.
[02:36] <wgrant> I'm not sure that they're currently kept for all archs.
[02:36] <lifeless> I wonder if we have usage stats on them.
[02:38] <spm> lifeless: this sort of thing? https://pastebin.canonical.com/34357/ the 2nd list there is from a few days ago
[02:40] <lifeless> spm: ah, i meant 'I wonder if have some surrogate measure for how much value we get from the results of this policy'
[02:40] <wgrant> (also, there might be an issue here that dealing with operational issues is really hard for community contributors, particularly when the team in question is really busy.)
[02:40] <lifeless> spm: thanks for digging that up though - its good to know too
[02:40] <lifeless> wgrant: Patches to improve that will get me saying 'thank you'
[02:40] <wgrant> Heh.
[03:41] <ApolloWolf> Hello, I was told to come here because of the "Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server. " error.
[03:42] <lifeless> hi
[03:42] <lifeless> what page did you see that on
[03:43] <ApolloWolf> https://launchpad.net/~hwatson/+branding
[03:43] <lifeless> is it still happening to you ?
[03:46] <ApolloWolf> No, not any more. Thanks for the help though.
[03:46] <lifeless> I wonder what makes a separate call there
[03:50] <wgrant> lifeless: Hm?
[03:51] <lifeless> if that happened just now
[03:51] <lifeless> we're not upgrading anything
[03:52] <lifeless> so pound should have had plenty of backends
[03:52] <lifeless> to get that message suggests something that doesn't indirect through pound ran into trouble
[03:52] <wgrant> +branding accesses the librarian, which sometimes causes that, if the librarian is playing up.
[03:52] <lifeless> thanks
[03:52] <lifeless> (thus ; I wonder what makes  aseparate call there ; :)
[08:04] <d1b> question, why when i view a package say launchpad.../gdecrypt -  i don't have the option to look at all bugs in all distros on launchpad of that package?
[08:04] <d1b> sure google works but
[08:06] <lifeless> well
[08:06] <lifeless> do you mean launchpad.net/gdecrypt ?
[08:06] <lifeless> or launchpad.net/ubuntu/.../gdecrypt ?
[08:06] <d1b> i mean
[08:07] <d1b> https://launchpad.net/gdecrypt
[08:07] <d1b> like it would be nice to have launchpad do a source package search of distros packages that match - and link me to bugs in those
[08:07] <lifeless> (side note: so thats *not* a package as far launchpad is concerned - its an upstream project, owned by the authors). Thats not a reason not to show useful stuff though.
[08:07] <d1b> i don't think that is too magical ;P
[08:07] <d1b> sure
[08:08] <lifeless> however in this case the package is correctly linked, so lp should be able to do so.
[08:08] <d1b> that seems to be the package / info page on launchpad and their homepage is different? - not that it matters
[08:08] <lifeless> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/gdecrypt would be a reasonable place to have a connection to the report you want
[08:09] <lifeless> please have a look in the launchpad.net/malone bug database and see if there is a bug for this already; there may well be.
[08:09] <d1b> lifeless: ah but you see the bug is already filed and acked
[08:09] <d1b> the fix is also trivial but not pushed
[08:09] <lifeless> the fix is written but not merged? Or it has been described-and-sounds-simple ?
[08:10] <lifeless> (these are two very different things :P)
[08:10] <d1b> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdecrypt/+bug/574237
[08:10] <d1b> good point
[08:10] <d1b> the fix is trivial, but no one real has acked it i think
[08:10] <d1b> (real - meaning in a position to do something)
[08:11] <lifeless> d1b: and its a malone bug, or are you talking about the gdecrypt bug in Ubuntu ?
[08:11] <d1b> erh?
[08:11] <d1b> the bug in ubuntu
[08:11] <lifeless> ok
[08:11] <d1b> the bug is that it looks for python2.5 but 2.6 is only installed and gdecrypt doesnt depend on python2.5
[08:12] <lifeless> so for that - and I hate to send you on a rabbit chase across channels - #ubuntu-bugs can help with triage and assessment; if it has a fix, turning it into a sponsorable-item is a good idea.
[08:12] <d1b> although it should and does appear to work fine on python2.6
[08:12] <lifeless> sounds pretty trivial to me
[08:12] <d1b> lifeless: should i file a wishlist bug in launchpad about what i raised?
[08:13] <lifeless> d1b: if there is not one already. Note that the bug would be under launchpad.net/malone - thats the launchpad bug tracker component.
[08:13] <d1b> launchpad could be useful, if only the interface didn't suck so bad.
[09:06] <issyl0> Hey.
[12:42] <purvesh> can some one help me to Announcement of Translation Team and other Guideline Details
[12:57] <purvesh> can some one help me to Announcement of Translation Team and other Guideline Details , purvesh
[13:06] <Tanguy> Hello.
[13:06] <purvesh> Tanguy, hi
[13:06] <Tanguy> Is <https://bugs.launchpad.net/> having problems?
[13:06]  * Tanguy cannot log in…
[13:07] <Tanguy> 1. I follow the link to <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dokuwiki/+login> on the top.
[13:07] <Tanguy> 2. It leads to a page with a single button, “Continue”.
[13:07] <Tanguy> (and many hidden form fields)
[13:08] <Tanguy> 3. When I click on it, it goes to its action, that is <https://login.launchpad.net/+openid>, method post.
[13:09] <Tanguy> 4. I get redirected to <https://login.launchpad.net/mFC0p3rnjZvn22dQ/+decide>, and that page only says “Invalid OpenID transaction”.
[13:10] <Tanguy> I do not use JavaScript, and I do not accept cookies, but when I accept cookies, nothing changes, and when I enable JavaScript, only the step 2 disappears, but the end is the same.
[13:15] <purvesh> Alkini, You there ?
[13:50] <purvesh> may be There is no one who can help me :(
[13:56] <marktheunissen> hello all, problem with launchpad / loggerhead? my merge proposal is not updating
[14:12] <marktheunissen> anyone know what's wrong with launchpad?
[14:12] <marktheunissen> why are merge proposals not updating
[14:12] <marktheunissen> ?
[14:39] <falktx> hi guys
[14:39] <falktx> i'm trying to upload a big package to my ppa
[14:40] <falktx> but it get stuck at 99% upload
[14:40] <falktx> my ppa has 4gb space
[14:40] <bigjools> falktx: yes that's a known bug in the ftp server
[14:40] <bigjools> can you try sftp?
[14:40] <falktx> oh, ok
[14:40] <falktx> bigjools: how do i upload via sftp?
[14:41] <falktx> i usually do dput ... *.changes
[14:41] <bigjools> in dput.cf, set method=sftp, login=<your lp account name>
[14:41] <bigjools> then dput as normal
[14:41] <bigjools> oh you need to make sure your public ssh is registered on your account
[14:42] <falktx> it is
[14:43] <falktx> thanks, i'll try this soon
[14:44] <bigjools> great, let me know how you get on
[14:44] <falktx> hehe, i stil have ~400mb to upload...
[14:45] <falktx> then i'll try the big 1.6gb one...
[14:47] <bigjools> wow, what are you uploading?
[14:48] <falktx> vlc-git
[14:48] <falktx> and games
[14:48] <falktx> supertuxkart (250mb)
[14:48] <falktx> then the big one is the latest svn of speed-dreams
[15:26] <deryck> sinzui, hi.
[15:26] <deryck> sinzui, you changed bug 548824 to 10.08, but I commented that I want to leave it at 10.07.  See the comments there.  But...
[15:26] <deryck> how do I change back to a closed milestone?  Is there no way?  And yes, I feel dumb having to ask.
[15:27] <sinzui> deryck, make the milestone active
[15:27] <sinzui> make your bug changes, than make the milestone inactive
[15:28] <deryck> sinzui, got it.  Thanks so much.
[15:52] <falktx> started the big sftp upload now
[15:52] <falktx> oh, permission denied
[15:55] <falktx> hm, got an import error too
[15:59] <falktx> ah, it's uploading now
[15:59] <falktx> hm, sftp doesn't tell me the progress ?
[16:11] <purvesh> can some one tell me at the time of announcement i have to send mail here or what ? ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com ?
[16:24] <falktx> howmuch time for a 1.6gb sftp upload on a very fast internet ?
[16:27] <Meths> size/bitrate (taking appropriate unit conversions...)
[16:37] <falktx> i would guess 2hours ?
[17:31] <falktx> oh, upload finished
[17:32] <jacks__> I have a key on launchpad but I'm on an new install now... how do I use that key?
[19:36] <idnar> so I'd like to have a robot that watches for merge proposals, and when one is created it runs the test suite etc. against the branch, and posts a review if anything goes wrong
[19:36] <idnar> would it make sense to make Tarmac do that?
[19:37] <mwhudson> it sounds similar enough, yar
[19:37] <idnar> (I mean run it against the result of merging the branch, of course)
[19:38] <idnar> I wonder how hard it would be to do
[20:09] <mathiaz> Hi! When I request a code import on https://code.launchpad.net/+code-imports/+new I need to specify the owner
[20:09] <mathiaz> However I can't set the owner to ~vcs-import
[20:17] <soren> mathiaz: Why do you want to?
[20:17] <mathiaz> soren: because I don't want to be the owner of the upstream import
[20:18] <soren> mathiaz: As I understand it, the whole point behind adding that option is to avoid having all those imports owned by vcs-import. If you own it, you're more likely to make sure to fix things if the upstream vcs moves or whatever.
[20:18] <soren> mathiaz: It's still clearly marked as an import.
[20:19] <soren> mathiaz: It won't look like you wrote it all or anything :)
[20:19] <mathiaz> soren: fair enough
[20:22] <ciupicri> I'm sorry if this has been been already asked, but I'm curious what is the reason for which I can't login to Launchpad using OpenID?
[20:32] <mtaylor> ciupicri: I _believe_ it's just on the hasn't been done yet list ... but I'm not 100% sure
[20:35] <ciupicri> mtaylor, I see
[21:00] <Nafai> I'm trying to figure out why I'm subscribed to a certain bug
[21:00] <Nafai> Can I somehow map something in the X-Launchpad-* headers to a launchpad subscribe URL?
[22:22] <ciupicri> can I use Launchpad only to translate a Django-based application (that uses Mercurial)?
[22:23] <soren> Nafai: There's a X-Launchpad-Rationale header or something that should explain why you're getting the e-mail.
[22:24] <Nafai> sure, but I go to what I think is the subscribe email for that (since it says I'm a subscriber) and I'm not currently subscribed
[22:24] <Nafai> and I can't remember how I subscribed
[22:27] <soren> Nafail: Which bug?
[22:27] <soren> Whoops.
[22:27] <soren> Nafai: Which bug?
[22:29] <Nafai> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/288812
[22:30] <Nafai> And in my mail, I have this:
[22:30] <Nafai> X-Launchpad-Message-Rationale: Subscriber (window-picker-applet)
[22:50] <jenkins> is it possible to find out how many times a package has been downloaded from a pp?
[22:50] <jenkins> *ppa
[22:55] <micahg> jenkins: bug 139855
[22:57] <jenkins> micahg: thanks, do you know if the data will be back dated before the feture existed?
[22:57] <jenkins> from logs etc
[22:57] <micahg> jenkins: I don't, someone else might know
[23:00] <mac9416> Hi. I'm trying to set up a branch for daily builds. I saw a tutorial recently, but I can't find it now. Can someone point me to one?
[23:02] <jenkins> mac9416: try bzr builder iirc, let me see if i can find the wiki page
[23:03] <jenkins> mac9416: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DailyBuilds/BzrBuilder
[23:04] <mac9416> Ah, nice. I also just found this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DailyBuilds/Recipes
[23:04] <mac9416> Thanks, jenkins.