[01:21] <m3ga> i'm trying to run maverick in a chroot on a debian base system. installing procps i get 'Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused' which is hardly surprising.
[01:26] <h00k> So, was asked to test something upstream using the mainline kernel. Is it proper to grab the deb or install the linux-generic-metapackage
[01:41] <yofel> h00k: afaik the mainline kernels don't even have a meta package, as there's no archive to add, just download the .deb
[01:41] <h00k> yofel: that's what I decided to do.
[01:41] <h00k> this is regarding the bug I have against btrfs on a SSD
[01:51] <h00k> are btrfs-tools available now on the daily lives, or only the alternate CD?
[01:53] <h00k> whatever, I'll install them from the live disk
[02:01] <Jordan_U> h00k: BTW, the slowness of dpkg with btrfs has something to do with fsync, using libeatmydata with dpkg sped things up by orders of magnitude for me.
[02:04] <h00k> Jordan_U: can you add that to the bug report, or is there already one with that information?
[02:05] <h00k> Jordan_U: and is that an upstream issue?
[02:05] <h00k> bug 600846
[02:06] <Jordan_U> h00k: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=588254
[02:13] <yofel> debian 584254
[02:14] <h00k> ahha.
[02:15] <h00k> Now, this doesn't appear to only be a dpkg problem for me.
[02:15] <h00k> This is...if I have too many disk activities at one time, I get crappy speeds.
[02:34] <h00k> So, is there another trick I can use to be able to resize btrfs from gparted in a live session? I did install btrfs-tools
[03:36] <lukehasnoname> Where would I tell a developer or packager about package dependency issues in Maverick?
[03:37] <lukehasnoname> Apparently, it's not considered a bug to have broken package dependencies in the +1
[04:01] <ripps> what's taking so long to get linux-image-2.6.35-7 out of New queue?
[06:10] <bp0> so how is alpha2?
[06:10] <rsk> um.. out?
[06:11] <bp0> yes. but how is it?
[06:16] <mheath> I wish I could tell you :( I'm fighting some broken dependency glitch trying to upgrade.
[06:17] <bp0> well thats a useful answer, thanks
[06:17] <bp0> sorry about your trouble
[06:21] <mheath> bp0: Most of the reviews and information I've seen on Alpha 2 have been along hte lines of "really, really promising, but broken and worthless at the moment."
[06:22] <mheath> Which is pretty much what you'd expect from an alpha 2
[06:24] <ripps> someone uploaded the linux-meta source before the linux kernel got passed through the binary-new queue. Thus, causing issues for those trying to upgrade their kernel.
[06:25] <ripps> As of right now, it's still sitting in the new queue.
[06:28] <mheath> ripps: thanks! that clears that up.
[06:28] <mheath> I'd figured it was something like that......I've learned if upgrades to Alpha don't work, to try again the next day
[06:29] <ripps> this stuff isn't suppose to happen, somebody was asleep at the keyboard when they uploaded the linux-meta source. they're supposed to wait until all the linux-image packages are finished.
[06:42] <bp0> mheath, do you run the alpha as your main os?
[06:42] <mheath> Nope.
[06:52] <jan-pieter> I update ubuntu today and the update did something with a device map of grub and now grub doesn't work anymore. Can someone help me fix this?
[06:53] <bp0> maybe
[06:53] <bp0> what happens
[06:53] <jan-pieter> Oh yeah. Grub complains about not finding a symbol and I end up in rescue mode
[06:53] <bp0> the grub shell?
[06:54] <jan-pieter> it is like a cli
[06:55] <jan-pieter> I can type commands but I don't have a clue what I am supposed to do
[06:56] <bp0> easy fix may be to use grub super disk to boot into your linux install and grub-update
[06:56] <bp0> or update-grub
[06:58] <jan-pieter> thank. I'm now in the 9.10 liveCD. Could I do it from there?
[06:59] <bp0> yes
[07:00] <jan-pieter> OK thanks very much :p
[07:00] <bp0> but...
[07:00] <bp0> you must specify the root
[07:00] <bp0> one moment
[07:01] <bp0> you must mount the partition, then sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/Blah /dev/sda
[07:02] <bp0> where /media/blah is the place it mounted, and /dev/sda is the disk you want to reinstall grub on
[07:04] <jan-pieter> bp0: Yeah figured that out after a quick search on google :p
[09:35] <BUGabundo_remote> morning, Turtles
[09:53] <BUGabundo_remote> me and my big mouth
[09:53] <BUGabundo_remote> today X is even sloweeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[10:10] <BUGabundo_remote> is there a way to debug this X timeouts?
[10:11] <BUGabundo_remote> some of my apps just FREEZE in the screen
[10:11] <BUGabundo_remote> making it unberable to use my laptop at the moment
[10:17] <BUGabundo_remote> come one guys
[10:17] <BUGabundo_remote> help me out here
[10:18]  * vish hands BUGabundo_remote a brick ;)
[10:25]  * BUGabundo_remote kicks vish where it hurts
[10:25] <BUGabundo_remote> even righting this messagetakes tooooo long... nothing on screen refreshes :(
[10:25] <vish> :D
[10:38] <BUGabundo_remote> doh
[10:38] <BUGabundo_remote> found the cause
[10:38] <BUGabundo_remote> dbus and gconf
[10:38] <BUGabundo_remote> http://paste.ubuntu.com/460563/
[10:56] <BUGabundo_remote> come one... 200+ idlers in here
[10:57] <BUGabundo_remote> some one must know something about dbus and/or gconf
[10:57] <BUGabundo_remote> need to debug this asapm and file a bug
[10:57] <BUGabundo_remote> a critical oone too
[11:17] <Jordan_U> BUGabundo_remote: Perhaps the fastest way to get an answer would be just to file the bug report :)
[11:18] <Jordan_U> BUGabundo_remote: But don't mark it as critical untill you've actually read the criterion for that severity level.
[12:50] <DrHalan> new kernels are building?
[13:51] <BUGabundo_remote> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/603080
[14:42] <TommyThaGun> how is the new kernel working? is it going to crash my system?
[14:44] <Pici> maybe
[14:47] <jpds> Only one way to find out.
[14:55] <TommyThaGun> :-(
[14:55] <TommyThaGun> I guess I'll find out in a few minutes
[15:10] <Draglor> Resuming in non X mode: glxinfo not found in path
[15:10] <Draglor> System:    Host LiWoS Kernel 2.6.32-24-generic i686 (32 bit) Distro Ubuntu 10.04 lucid
[15:10] <Draglor> CPU:       Dual core Intel T2300 (SMP) clocked at 1000.00 MHz
[15:10] <Draglor> Graphics:  Card Intel Mobile 945GM/GMS 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller tty res: N/A
[15:10] <Draglor> Disks:     HDD Total Size: 80.0GB (39.1% used)
[15:10] <Draglor> Info:      Processes 201 Uptime 1 day Memory 589.0/993.1MB Runlevel 2 Client Quassel [M] v0.6.1 (dist-611ebcc) inxi 1.4.8
[15:10] <Draglor> inxi supports the following options. You can combine them, or list them
[15:10] <Draglor> one by one: Examples: inxi -v4 -c6 OR inxi -dDc 6
[15:10] <Draglor> If you start inxi with no arguments, it will show the short form.
[15:10] <Draglor> The following options if used without -d or -v will show just that complete line:
[15:10] <Draglor> A,C,D,G,I,N,P,S - you can use these together to show just the lines you want to see.
[15:10] <Draglor> If you use them with a -v level (or -d), it will show the full output for that line
[15:10] <Draglor> along with the output for the chosen verbosity level.
[15:10] <Draglor> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[15:10] <Draglor> Output Control Options:
[15:10] <Draglor> -A  Show Audio/sound card information.
[15:10] <Draglor> -c  Available color schemes. Scheme number is required.
[15:10] <Draglor>     Supported schemes: 0-15 Example: inxi -c 11
[15:10] <Draglor> -C  Show full CPU output, including per CPU clockspeed.
[15:10] <Draglor> -d  Default output verbosity level, same as: inxi -v 1
[15:10] <Draglor> -D  Show full hard Disk info, not only model, ie: /dev/sda ST380817AS 80.0GB.
[15:10] <Draglor> -f  Show all cpu flags used, not just the short list. Not shown with -F to avoid spamming.
[15:10] <Draglor> -F  Show Full output for inxi. Does not show extra verbose options like -f -u -l -o -p or -t
[15:10] <Draglor> -G  Show Graphic card information (card, x type, resolution, glx renderer, version).
[15:10] <Draglor> -i  Show Wan IP address, and shows local interfaces (requires ifconfig network tool).
[15:10] <Draglor>     Not shown with -F for user security reasons, you shouldn't paste your local/wan IP.
[15:11] <Draglor> -I  Show Information: processes, uptime, memory, irc client, inxi version.
[15:11] <Draglor> -l  Show partition labels. Default: short partition -P. For full -p output, use: -pl (or -plu).
[15:11] <Draglor> -N  Show Network card information.
[15:11] <Draglor> -o  Show unmounted partition information (includes UUID and LABEL if available).
[15:11] <Draglor>     Shows file system type if you have file installed, if you are root OR if you have
[15:11] <Draglor>     added to /etc/sudoers (sudo v. 1.7 or newer): <username> ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/file (sample)
[15:11] <Draglor> -p  Show full partition information (-P plus all other detected partitions).
[15:11] <Draglor> -P  Show Partition information (shows what -v 4 would show, but without extra data).
[15:11] <Draglor>     Shows, if detected: / /boot /home /tmp /usr /var. Use -p to see all mounted partitions.
[15:11] <Draglor> -r  Show distro repository data. Currently supported repo types: APT; PACMAN; PISI; YUM.
[15:11] <Draglor> -s  Show sensors output (if sensors installed/configured): mobo/cpu/gpu temp; detected fan speeds.
[15:11] <Draglor>     Gpu temp only for Fglrx/Nvidia drivers. Nvidia shows screen number for > 1 screens.
[15:11] <Draglor> -S  Show System information: host name, kernel, distro
[15:11] <Draglor> -t  Show processes. Requires extra options: c (cpu) m (memory) cm (cpu+memory). If followed by numbers 1-20,
[15:11] <Draglor>     shows that number of processes for each type (default: 5; if in irc, max: 5): -t cm10
[15:11] <Draglor>     Make sure to have no space between letters and numbers (-t cm10 -right, -t cm 10 -wrong).
[15:11] <Draglor> -u  Show partition UUIDs. Default: short partition -P. For full -p output, use: -pu (or -plu).
[15:11] <Draglor> -v  Script verbosity levels. Verbosity level number is required.
[15:11] <Draglor>     Supported levels: 0-5 Example: inxi -v 4
[15:11] <Draglor>     0 - short output, same as: inxi
[15:11] <Draglor>     1 - basic verbose, same as: inxi -d
[15:11] <Draglor>     2 - Also show networking card data
[15:11] <Draglor>     3 - Also show hard disk names as detected.
[15:11] <Draglor>     4 - Also show partition size/filled data for (if present):/, /home, /var/, /boot
[15:11] <Draglor>     5 - For multicore systems, also shows: per core clock speeds; audio card; full disk data.
[15:11] <Draglor> -x  Show extra data: bogomips on Cpu; driver version (if available) for Network/Audio;
[15:11] <Draglor>     for network, audio cards, shows PCI Bus ID number also;
[15:12] <Draglor>     direct rendering status for Graphics (in X). Only works with verbose or line output;
[15:12] <Draglor>     shows (for single gpu, nvidia driver) screen number gpu is running on.
[15:12] <Draglor>     Shows hdd temp with disk data if you have hddtemp installed, if you are root OR if you have
[15:12] <Draglor>     added to /etc/sudoers (sudo v. 1.7 or newer): <username> ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/hddtemp (sample)
[15:12] <Draglor>     For -t, adds memory use output to cpu (-tx c, and cpu use to memory (-tx m).
[15:12] <gnomefreak> Draglor: stop
[15:12] <Draglor> Additional Options:
[15:12] <Draglor> -h - this help menu.
[15:12] <Draglor> -U  Auto-update script. Note: if you installed as root, you
[15:12] <Draglor>     must be root to update, otherwise user is fine.
[15:12] <Draglor> -V  inxi version information. Prints information then exits.
[15:12] <Draglor> -%  Overrides defective or corrupted data.
[15:12] <Draglor> -@  Triggers debugger output. Requires debugging level 1-10 (8-10 - logging).
[15:21] <om26er> woho
[16:56] <tj83|work> hello guys, I dont know if anyone here is familiar with the GPS depreciated packages in lucid. for an LTS this is kinda disturbing. Anyone know how the GPS scene is in 10.10?   How is Alpha 2 coming along? I'm getting a new device and really wanted to use Lucid, but GPS is one of my main demands. I'll give 10.10 alpha a try, major known issues?
[17:09] <DrHalan> new kernel still not uploaded?
[17:11] <gnomefreak> if you mean linux-generic_2.6.35.7.8 it has been uploaded
[17:12] <gnomefreak> i got that update >4 hours
[17:14] <DrHalan> well i still  ahve 2.6.35-6 and my linux-generic is hold back
[17:14] <DrHalan> according to launchpad there is 2.6-35-11 uploaded
[17:15] <DrHalan> or 7.11 i think
[17:15] <DrHalan> since when is there a fith digit?
[17:17] <gnomefreak> DrHalan: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:17] <gnomefreak> it will install the updated kernel
[17:18] <gnomefreak> or use update-manager, but these are things you should know before trying an Alpha version
[17:18] <DrHalan> yeah sure
[17:18] <DrHalan> i know how that works ^^
[17:18] <DrHalan> but dist-upgrade tells me
[17:19] <DrHalan> teh following packages were hold back:   linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[17:19] <DrHalan> what architecture are you using gnomefreak?
[17:19] <gnomefreak> what happens if you try to use sudo apt-get install linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[17:19] <gnomefreak> DrHalan: i dont use a CC
[17:20] <DrHalan> i gues it will say the dependencies are not avaible
[17:20] <gnomefreak> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick main restricted   and so on
[17:20] <DrHalan> yeah it says "unresolved dependecies"
[17:21] <gnomefreak> and they would be?
[17:21] <DrHalan> linux-image-2.6.35-7-generic + headers
[17:22] <gnomefreak> use the mirrors i am. i had no issue at all.
[17:23] <gnomefreak> linux-image-2.6.35-7-generic: Installed: 2.6.35-7.11 Candidate: 2.6.35-7.11
[17:24]  * gnomefreak goes back to work :)
[17:24] <jpds> DrHalan: You might want to use de.archive.u.c.
[17:26] <DrHalan> its alreay set to the german servers as im from germany
[17:26] <DrHalan> maybe its just no built yet on amd64?
[17:30] <jpds> DrHalan: It should do there within the next few hours.
[17:32] <DrHalan> its really difficult to find specific kernel packages in launchpad imo
[17:41] <yofel> DrHalan: really? they're all listed on https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux though
[17:42] <patdk-wk> heh, way too general :)
[17:42] <patdk-wk> he only wanted one :)
[17:44] <yofel> well, they need to put all that info somewhere :P
[17:51] <DrHalan> inst that the meta packge
[17:51] <DrHalan> and not the actual kernel images?
[18:00] <yofel> DrHalan: press on the arrow beside the version you need and you'll get the list of binary packages
[18:00] <yofel> a rather long list for the kernel...
[18:18] <tntc> are any of the radeon power managment features in the 2.6.35 Maverick kernel?
[21:53] <DrHalan> the new kernel feels a lot faster to me :)
[22:21] <knittl> i get frequent lock ups of X with nouveau. mouse still moves, but everything else is frozen, and i cannot click or use my keyboard
[22:30] <DrHalan> knittl: i have something smiliar except my keyboard works
[22:30] <DrHalan> means i can close windows with my keyboard an navigate a little...
[22:30] <DrHalan> but i cannot click anyhting
[22:31] <knittl> DrHalan: my screen freezes
[22:31] <knittl> everything except mouse cursor
[22:31] <DrHalan> okay
[22:31] <DrHalan> then its a little different
[22:31] <DrHalan> does nvidia-current work fine?
[22:32] <knittl> dunno
[22:32] <knittl> but i only have this problem since i switched to nouveau
[22:33] <DrHalan> mh okay
[22:33] <DrHalan> i have no clue
[22:33] <DrHalan> does restarting gdm work?
[22:33] <DrHalan> its alt+k+print or so
[22:33] <knittl> how can i restart gdm?
[22:33] <knittl> no, it does not
[22:33] <knittl> then i only have gibberish on my screen
[22:33] <DrHalan> wait some time..
[22:34] <knittl> i did
[22:34] <DrHalan> oh okay
[22:34] <DrHalan> well i hav eno clue then
[22:34] <DrHalan> maybe go back to nvidia-current? :P
[22:34] <knittl> dualscreen works better with nouveau
[22:35] <knittl> but suspend won't work with nouveau either
[22:35] <DrHalan> oh mh well i am not an expert in that topic
[22:36] <DrHalan> i am just wondering if tis a kernel or a xserver issue
[22:39] <knittl> really no idea