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ScottLsanity check:02:08
ScottLi want to create an SRU for a qjackctl bug that causes renamed ports to not be connected in qjackctl02:09
ScottLhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qjackctl/+bug/49043602:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 490436 in qjackctl (Ubuntu) "port renames are ignored" [Undecided,Fix released]02:09
ScottLthe bug was fixed by an new release upstream vs. a patch02:09
ScottLdo i download qjacktl-0.3.5 (with the bug) source and the qjackctl-0.3.8 (which fixes the bug) source and run debdiff02:10
ScottLand use this as the patch to append to the SRU?02:10
ScottLi probably should mentioned that 0.3.8 is in maverick and the SRU is for lucid which has 0.3.502:18
maxwellianScottL: I'm a noob at this, but since no one else is answering yet...won't that bring in basically all the changes between the two versions?  Maybe you're supposed to isolate a patch to fix the bug?  (Go easy on me! :) )02:31
RAOFScottL: You find the particular patch which is a part of 0.3.8 which fixes the bug of interest, and use that.02:32
RAOFScottL: That generally means wandering through the VCS of qjackctl.02:33
ScottLRAOF, that is true with a new upstream version as well?02:34
ScottLi would hate to cherry pick a patch but introduce new bugs02:34
RAOFScottL: Yes.  Generally new upstream versions are not SRU-worthy.02:34
RAOFWell, are the 3 new upstream versions between 0.3.5 and 0.3.8 *entirely* bugfixes?02:35
ScottLRAOF, okay, thanks, i'll start digging around in the VCS then02:35
ScottLRAOF, no i don't think they are just bug fixes, but i would have to check the qjackctl website but i seem to recall them adding dbus functionality02:36
RAOFOnly bugfixes are allowed in SRUs, so the new upstream version isn't going to be a winner.02:37
maxwellianScottL: Too bad upstream doesn't have a bug tracker, so you can just find the change that fixes said bug number.02:38
ScottLRAOF, ack, this might mean a significant problem then if i can't find a patch :(02:39
ScottLi guess the next step to ensure quality functionality is to get qjackctl backported to lucid so that users can at least update qjackctl to gain that functionality back02:40
RAOFNote that backports are explicitly not meant to be there for fixing bugs (to ensure that people actually bother with SRUs).02:41
RAOFIf there's fun new functionality in the newer qjackctl then a backport probably still makes sense, though.02:42
ScottLRAOF, acknowledged, i will purse the SRU patch first and then follow up with backport if it doesn't pan out02:43
ScottLoh, and thanks RAOF02:55
RAOFNP02:55
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wrinkliezhey guys.  im new to this whole packaging thing.  if i want to move a file from the package to the users computer, do i use dh_install?05:03
RAOFwrinkliez: No.  dh_install moves files from $SOMEWHERE to somewhere in the package tree.05:12
wrinkliezthank you05:13
RAOFAs a part of the source package build process you'll create (almost certainly automatically, using debhelper or cdbs) the package tree which will get unpacked onto the installer's system.05:13
bullgard'~$ rgrep 'post-installation trigger' /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.32/Documentation/ 2>/dev/null' does not produce any output. What is the function of "post-installation trigger"?05:46
RAOFbullgard: It's a trigger to run things that want to run after a kernel is installed.06:07
RAOFeg: update-initramfs, update-grub.06:07
RAOFYou won't find it in the kernel documentation because it's a packaging thing.06:07
bullgardRAOF: Thank you very much for your information.06:14
bullgardIf "post-installation trigger"  is a packaging thing, what program or file does write out the name "post-installation trigger" when Update Manager is installing new packages?06:26
rippscan someone explain to me the purpose of the new queue? Also, why was linux-meta allowed to get into the maverick repo before linux-image for it was?06:28
bilalakhtarHey there, everyone06:53
bilalakhtarAfter merging, what should I copy into the changelog message?06:53
bilalakhtarthe debian changes from the last ubuntu one,06:53
bilalakhtaror06:53
bilalakhtarthe ubuntu changes till now?06:53
dholbachgood morning07:58
iulianG'morning dholbach.08:03
dholbachhey iulian08:04
maxbIs there a standard reference for where update-alternatives belongs in package maintainer scripts? I'm seeing it used differently in different packages when I look for an example.08:10
RhondaIn postinst, not?08:13
lifelessmaxb: what sort of differences are you seeing?08:14
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VK7HSE-EeeHi I need some advice on the following Bug #602981 I requested a sync into maverick, but the problem lies in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=575122 so what is the best way to resolve this ?10:29
ubottuDebian bug 575122 in me-tv "me-tv: needs to depend on libxine1-x" [Important,Fixed]10:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 602981 in me-tv (Ubuntu) "FFe: Sync me-tv 1.3.0-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60298110:29
VK7HSE-Eeeits clearly a dependency issue (out dated source)10:30
VK7HSE-Eeeas all builds fine in Debian...10:31
Laneyright, we need the new xine-lib for dh_xine to be there10:32
VK7HSE-Eeebut will that break anything else ?10:32
LaneyI don't know10:32
VK7HSE-Eeethat's what I'm concerned for...10:32
Laneyhave a word with siretart, he deals with that10:32
VK7HSE-EeeOK thanks ;)10:33
VK7HSE-Eeesiretart: Can you advise on the issue above ? the need for xine-lib to be bought into maverick but to ensure that it won't break existing packages...10:35
VK7HSE-Eeehmm ok it appears that the version in Maverick (xine-lib) doesn't handle the make rule so I think I can get away by requesting a sync to the latest ...10:41
VK7HSE-EeeI've submitted Bug #603059 to resolve my initial query...10:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 603059 in xine-lib (Ubuntu) "Sync xine-lib 1.1.18.1-4 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60305910:53
LaneyErr, I thought you were trying to check if we want that10:54
VK7HSE-Eeewell xine-lib is already in maverick, just an earlier version ...10:55
Laney...I would have waited for siretart10:56
VK7HSE-Eeewell it can always be refused then I will need to find an alternate way  ;)10:57
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btommyhello together12:41
siretartVK7HSE: the package needs to be merged, the ubuntu delta is important12:44
VK7HSEsiretart: thanks, just about to discuss with the devloper ;)  I'll mark that sync as invalid12:45
siretartbetter change it to a 'please merge'12:46
VK7HSEok done ...12:47
VK7HSEthat's for Bug #60305912:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 603059 in xine-lib (Ubuntu) "Please Merge xine-lib 1.1.18.1-4 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60305912:48
VK7HSEI've not done a merge before, so I'll need to do some reading and most likely need some guidance with the process ...12:49
siretartI have the merge ready in a bzr branch, could you perhaps test it the package works?12:52
VK7HSEok ... url ?12:52
btommyhi12:53
btommyi shortly intruduce myself. i work as dvd-editor for linux-magazin and build since 3 years repos for the dvds12:54
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btommyin this production i have the following serious problem12:54
btommyi can add the repositoriy without any problems12:55
btommyif i want install software form this, apt-get said: error get packages from cdrom12:56
btommybut: the pathes to the packages in the error messages are correct12:56
VK7HSE siretart: do you have a URL for that branch ?12:57
btommybut: this error concern not all packages: othe software form the same directory i can install without problems12:58
btommyany ideas, how i can solve the problem?12:58
btommyher i have paste the message:13:11
btommyhttp://paste.ubuntuusers.de/398597/13:11
sebnerJontheEchidna: k3b is ready to upload :D13:38
JontheEchidnasebner: just saw. thanks :D13:38
sebnernp13:38
sebnerJontheEchidna: I'd have uploaded it myself but I think you deserve the honour ^_^14:03
JontheEchidna:)14:03
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siretartVK7HSE: please try pulling: 'bzr get http://tauware.de/~siretart/xine/xine-lib' - can you build a source package from that?14:32
siretartricotz: ^^14:32
VK7HSEsiretart: ok will do ... let you know how I go ;)14:33
ricotzsiretart, i will have a look14:34
siretartyes, the merge was rather straight forward, but I did it using bzr nevertheless14:34
ricotzsiretart, you might want to merge 1.1.18.1-414:35
siretartdidn't I?14:35
* VK7HSE just refreshing my bzr after using git for so long! ;)14:35
siretartricotz: I did14:35
ricotzsiretart, the changelog said 1.1.18.1-114:36
siretartricotz: the tree wasn't updated14:36
siretartreload14:36
giskardguys do you know what was the ircname of  andrea veri (i think he was also a motu)14:37
ricotzsiretart, alright14:37
siretartgiskard: I think it was bluekja14:37
giskardnick is not registered14:38
giskarduhm14:38
sebnergiskard: bluekuja14:38
giskardsame.14:38
sebnergiskard: nowadays it's something with like av or av`14:38
giskardi thought so.. but av afaict at the moment is another guys14:39
giskardlet's see av`14:39
giskardLast seen  : Dec 16 00:56:13 2009 (29 weeks, 1 day, 12:43:13 ago)14:39
giskardyes14:39
giskardhim14:39
sebner:D14:39
giskard+stalking14:40
giskarddo you red something from him after 16dec?14:40
VK7HSEsiretart: revno 82 is that the latest ?14:42
siretartyes14:42
VK7HSEok ...14:42
sebnergiskard: dunno, might be the case that he was longer active on debian oftc14:44
VK7HSEjust getting deps, for building locally here ... will advise once I have a valid build, now I'm using Lucid presently, I'm all set with pbuilder chroots for maverick, but should I built it for lucid and test that way or is there a different method to go about this ?14:44
giskardhe didn't register with any of that ircname on oftc14:45
ricotzVK7HSE, this should be built with maverick14:47
VK7HSEok, but how will I use the built package ? is there a specific syntax I need to append to pbuilder ?14:48
ricotzpbuilder-dist maverick build xine-lib14:48
VK7HSEok .. yet to buid the package, will scream out if I strike trouble ;)14:49
VK7HSEshould I be concerned over the lintian warnings ? http://paste.debian.net/79982/14:52
* VK7HSE well currently building it with those warnings ...14:54
ricotzVK7HSE, no this should be fixed in debian, but the your version should be "1.1.18.1-4ubuntu1" ;-)14:54
VK7HSEonly upped the version for local use ...14:55
* VK7HSE times like this a quad core or greater would be nice! :-/15:00
joaopintogeneral question, is it allowed for a package on the same archive/release to be on multiple components ?15:05
ScottKjoaopinto: I'm not sure I understand the question.  One source package can build multiple binaries that may be in Main and Universe.15:07
joaopintoScottK, I mean doing a manual archive management, is it valid to have the same package available from multiple components ? e.g package A on both main and universe.15:10
ricotzsiretart, works here using it with vdr and xineliboutput15:10
joaopintoI am not asking this from an Ubuntu archive management perspective, I am asking from a generic APT perspective15:10
ScottKjoaopinto: No, it wouldn't be I don't think.15:10
siretartricotz: cool. can you upload to main or shall I upload it?15:11
ScottKjoaopinto: I think what people would get installed then would be a function of the order in their sources.list.15:11
joaopintosince Index's are kept on a per release/component basis it's not clear15:11
ScottKjoaopinto: I take that back.15:11
ScottKIt is OK.15:11
ScottKBut it is then a function of sources.list functionality.15:11
ScottKfunctionality/sequence.15:11
ricotzsiretart, i am not a motu ;-) (yet), so please do it15:11
ScottKjoaopinto: Something very much like this happens with security updates that are published in -security and then copied to -updates (because it's mirrored).15:12
joaopintoScottK, but those are different archives from an apt perspective, I am not sure they are handled int the same way as  different components from from the same archive15:14
ScottKjoaopinto: Good point.  I'm not sure then.15:15
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joaopintoI am arguing that releases and not components should be used to manage packages promotion, something like beta->stable, I had the idea that having the same package in multiple components was invalid, but I am not sure any longer :\15:17
siretartricotz: VK7HSE: uploaded15:21
VK7HSEwas going to say it failed to build here :( ...15:21
VK7HSEbut I reckon it was a dependency that I didn't have installed here ..15:21
ricotzsiretart, thanks15:24
micahgdoes one need upload rights for the package to upload to -proposed?15:32
Laneyyes15:33
micahgLaney: ah, ok, do you have time sponsor something small then :)15:33
Laneynot right now sorry, perhaps in a bit15:35
micahgk15:35
Laneysebner has lots of time right now though15:35
Laney:)15:35
micahgsebner: ?15:35
sebnerrofl15:35
sebnermicahg: what is it?15:36
micahgsebner: bug 597944 the lucid patch15:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 597944 in gjs (Ubuntu Lucid) "libgjs needs a rebuild for xulrunner-1.9.2.6" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59794415:36
sebnermicahg: your debdiff should target to lucid-proposed though, nvm .. I'll fix that15:37
siretartricotz: didn't you say it worked for you, the package ftbfs :/15:39
ricotzsiretart, you have built it in an updated maverick pbuilder and using it on maverick now - amd6415:40
siretarthmseems there is some imagemagik transition going on15:41
micahgsebner: did I miss that :(15:41
micahgsebner: oh, I forgot to change after I upload to PPA, sorry15:41
ricotzsiretart, yes, it is a dependency problem15:41
sebnermicahg: nvm, uploaded :)15:41
micahgsebner: thanks much :)15:41
sebnernp15:41
ricotzsiretart, seems like i had done it the right moment15:42
micahgsebner: I just realized I forgot to use -v on my first upload to maverick on my own :(, so I guess I need to be more careful15:42
sebnermicahg: heh, I also did tend to forget it but it's really no stopper15:43
sebnermicahg: in the past, not with the gjs upload now :P15:43
micahgsebner: I was noticing someone else forgot it this morning and I'm like, wait a second I forgot it too on my upload :-/15:44
sebnerheh, happens. don't worry15:44
VK7HSEwhere was the build for xine-lib uploaded to ? (xine-lib_1.1.18.1-4ubuntu1) ??16:01
sebnerVK7HSE: if FTBFS https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xine-lib/1.1.18.1-4ubuntu116:03
VK7HSEbut it failed to build ... :(16:04
sebnerVK7HSE: I said that :P , speak to siretart16:04
VK7HSEgetting rather late here! so I'll need to revisit this tomorrow...16:06
VK7HSEbut thank you to all that have invested you time on me and the xine-lib build ... ;)16:07
ricotzsebner, it shouldnt be called FTBFS?, the dependencies are broken in the main archive somehow16:09
* VK7HSE so good night/morning afternoon/evening to all ...16:09
sebnerricotz: does it build? no ... the reason doesn't matter16:09
ricotzsebner, ok16:10
lfaraonepython-abiword is currently uninstallable (if you use apt-get) in Lucid because it has a = dep on a particular version of libabiword-2.8. The updated version doesn't seem to involve an ABI change (installing with aptitude and importing abiword works fine). What's the proper way to fix the dep so that it has the desired effect but is not borked by future updates? bug 60141516:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 601415 in pyabiword (Ubuntu) "python-abiword can't be installed on lucid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60141516:13
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Laneybah16:31
shadeslayerLaney: ??16:38
Laneynm16:38
shadeslayerbtw any ideas on http://pastebin.com/dDNYKLS216:38
micahgshadeslayer: update-maintainer?16:40
shadeslayermicahg: uh.. really? i just dget'd the stuff from launchpad....16:41
shadeslayermaverick16:41
micahgshadeslayer: if you didn't modify the version, maybe it's a bug :)16:43
shadeslayermicahg: hmm.. i actually did modify the version :P16:43
micahgshadeslayer: ah, then you need to do update-maintainer :)16:43
shadeslayermicahg: btw suppose i want to backport this package ( kraft ) then do i upload with a ubuntu in the version?16:44
micahgshadeslayer: backport how?, through -backports?16:44
shadeslayeryes16:44
micahgshadeslayer: the archive admins handle that w/a script16:45
micahgor the backporters16:45
shadeslayermicahg: uh.. that still doesnt answer if i should have 1ubuntu1 in my version ;)16:45
Laneydoes it need any changes16:45
Laney?16:45
shadeslayerLaney: thats what im trying to check :D16:45
Laneyif it builds unmodified then you don't have to do anything16:46
Laneyif yes, then ~releaseX16:46
Laneyjdong: btw, how does one join the backporters?16:47
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ari-tczewtumbleweed: I'm not angelabad ...18:06
tumbleweedari-tczew: did I assign something to the wrong person by mistake? :)18:07
ari-tczewtumbleweed: so please do not repeat this mistake in future and be more careful18:08
tumbleweedari-tczew: bug #?18:08
ari-tczewtumbleweed: bug 602437 ; bug 602461 ; bug 60284618:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 602437 in the (Ubuntu) "Sync the 3.3~b4-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60243718:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 602461 in fgfs-atlas (Ubuntu) "Sync fgfs-atlas 0.3.1-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60246118:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 602846 in fsl (Ubuntu) "Sync fsl 4.1.6-1 (multiverse) from Debian unstable (non-free)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60284618:09
ari-tczewand now angelabad got 3 uploads which are worked by me... nice18:10
tumbleweedwtf?18:10
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tumbleweedari-tczew: that's ack-sync being silly then18:10
ari-tczewtumbleweed: I don't understand.18:11
Laney. o O ( error prone scripts over approved procedure )18:11
tumbleweedari-tczew: I'll look later, in an IRC meeting...18:11
ari-tczewwhat is ubuntu-font-beta-testing ?18:14
highvoltageari-tczew: ubuntu is getting new default fonts that's specially developed (looking for the link...)18:15
* shadeslayer thinks that highly classified stuff18:16
Laneythey've been blogging about it18:16
Laneyso not really18:16
shadeslayerLaney: uh... /me got a PPA as bonus :P18:16
LaneyI know, but it's not classified really18:17
highvoltageari-tczew: http://design.canonical.com/2010/07/the-ubuntu-font/18:17
highvoltageit's not agrigated on planet ubuntu for some reason18:17
shadeslayerLaney: ok :P18:17
* shadeslayer thought he was special :(18:17
highvoltageI just subscribe to the design blog seperately18:17
Laneyhighvoltage: I saw it on planet...18:17
highvoltageLaney: heh, ok. it was probably added then recently18:18
Laneyaye aye18:18
shadeslayerToday all Ubuntu Members will have access to a private PPA so that they can use, test and enjoy the font. << Ohhhhh thats why :P18:18
Laneyyeah that invitation message could have been clearer18:18
ari-tczewyhy18:20
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strycoreHi everyone19:05
oxymoronYokoZar: ping19:06
strycoreOk, I've got this ape-server I really want to package, there's a .deb for the stable version but not for the git version19:08
strycorethere is no source package, so I package everything from scratch19:08
strycoreI did the basic stuff such as debian/control19:09
strycoreand now I'm starting to try getting the package to build19:10
strycorethe problem with ape-server is that there is a build.sh script invoking the makefile19:11
strycorethis is the script : http://github.com/APE-Project/APE_Server/blob/master/build.sh19:11
strycoreyou can all see in the script, it writes to src/configure.h19:12
strycoreif you call 'make' by itself , there's no configure.h so the build fails19:12
strycoreok, so the question is :19:13
strycorewhat should it I do ? :D19:13
strycore(besides learning more about debian/rules, which I eventually will)19:13
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YokoZaroxymoron: pong19:49
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ari-tczewtumbleweed: have you got 5 minutes for sponsorship?20:41
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ari-tczewI have a problem with requestsync: E: No credentials found for 'ubuntu-dev-tools', please see the manage-credentials manpage for help on how to create one for this consumer.21:44
micahgari-tczew: there should be a flag to not use lp for the info21:45
ari-tczewmicahg: hello! why? ^^21:46
micahgari-tczew: I think it was fixed in either maverick or trunk for u-d-t21:46
tumbleweedwhy not just use lp?21:46
micahgtumbleweed: he didn't set up credentials21:46
tumbleweedso... set them up?21:46
micahgari-tczew: you could just set up the credentials in LP ...21:46
ari-tczewmicahg: yesterday requestsync worked21:46
ari-tczewmy lp says: Application name: ubuntu-dev-tools21:48
ari-tczewAuthorized applications21:48
micahgari-tczew: ah, ok, maybe it timed out w/LP, did you try a couple times?21:48
ari-tczewmicahg: it's not timeout. I got answer from script just-in-time21:49
* micahg is out of ideas...21:50
ari-tczewtoday I tried to test of pam security bug. it requires link: ln -s /etc/shadow ~/.cache21:50
tumbleweedari-tczew: ok yes it looks like ack-sync uses the first bug-filer e-mail address for all the syncs in a batch21:50
* tumbleweed didn't know that21:50
ari-tczewmaybe this is a problem?21:50
dupondjehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorp/+bug/600813 => can somebody try to build it on i386 ? seems like it worked here :s21:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 600813 in xorp (Ubuntu) "Please sync xorp 1.6-3 (universe) from debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New]21:51
tumbleweeddupondje: building...21:52
dupondjetumbleweed: seems so, was wondering today why it got a wrong email here https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/60247621:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 602476 in sssd (Ubuntu) "Sync sssd 1.2.1-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Fix released]21:52
tumbleweederr yeah that was me too21:52
dupondje-- Jean-Louis Dupond <angelabad@gmail.com>   Thu, 24 Jun 2010 14:16:30 +020021:52
dupondje:p21:52
tumbleweedlol21:53
ari-tczewtumbleweed: could you request a bug to this script?21:53
ari-tczewand second question: syncpackage is not enough?21:53
dupondjeah well, less spam for me :)21:53
tumbleweedari-tczew: it's a wrapper around syncpackage21:53
tumbleweedI'll propose a fix21:53
ari-tczewhas someone idead for me? ^^ ^^21:54
ari-tczewideas *21:54
tumbleweedari-tczew: do you only do sync requesting from one PC? each machine needs to be authenticated with lp21:55
dupondjeari-tczew: did you reatry running manage-credentials create -c ubuntu-dev-tools -l 2 ?21:55
ari-tczewtumbleweed: I'm use 1 PC. do I need log-out from LP or log-in to LP?21:56
tumbleweedari-tczew: no21:56
tumbleweedari-tczew: you just need to follow the link manage-credentials gives you, and accept it in the web browser21:57
ari-tczewtumbleweed: is it possible that I did today follow commands: rm -rf ~/.cache ; ln -s /etc/shadow ~/.cache21:59
micahgari-tczew: that probably did it "_22:00
micahg:)22:00
tumbleweedari-tczew: that second command. Um what22:01
ari-tczewcan I back this change?22:01
tumbleweedrm ~/.cache22:01
tumbleweeddelete the authorization in LP, re-run manage-cred22:02
ari-tczewwrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr22:02
* ari-tczew is upset22:02
tumbleweed(excuse me, I'm trying a different keyboard, and it's affecting my typing badly)22:02
jpdstumbleweed: Isn't the seacom outage affecting your packets too?22:04
ajmitchari-tczew: why are you upset? you removed the directory that stored the credentials22:05
tumbleweedjpds: hurting us badly. This is my university: http://monitor.net.tenet.ac.za/cacti/graph_view.php?action=tree&tree_id=3&leaf_id=9422:05
ari-tczewajmitch: I'm upset due to lack of free time.22:05
jpdstumbleweed: Ouch.22:06
ajmitchit should hopefully only take a minute or two to do22:06
tumbleweedjpds: yeah don't know what caused the non-international outage there, but we have international some of the time, atm :)22:07
tumbleweedfortunatly not all the DSL providers are affected22:07
tumbleweeddupondje: oh, built btw22:11
dupondjetumbleweed: can you sync it then ? :)22:11
tumbleweeddupondje: wait, i386, /me builds again22:12
ari-tczewdupondje: can we do all mergeable outstanding packages before FeatureFreeze?22:13
dupondjemmm22:14
dupondje1 month to go22:14
dupondjeshould go below 100 for sure22:14
dupondjelotsa merges that needs to get accepted also22:14
ari-tczewsyncs got more sponsors than merges22:15
tumbleweedsyncs are easier to review22:18
tumbleweedunless we have a 0ubuntuX22:18
tumbleweedin which case they are hell22:18
ari-tczewdon't object for this opinion22:18
ari-tczewjust I say what I see22:18
ari-tczewI hope that we can do merges small to ~50 packages per component22:19
dupondjesome merges are easy also22:19
tumbleweedof course. But many involve finding out where these patches should be (or have been) forwarded to22:20
dupondjeAlso some packages don't get synced, because the change in debian is to small, or just an ubuntu patch that got into debian22:24
dupondjebut we should sync that then no? else in next release we need to review it again ...22:24
tumbleweedmy feeling is that if you've done the work finding out that we can sync it, we probably should. It saves someone else having to review it in the future. But you could also just leave a comment in MOM22:25
pwnguinquick question about the 10.10 schedule and MOTU: does the debianimportfreeze also affect universe?22:26
ari-tczewtumbleweed: you've done for me 4 syncs and I hope that you'll do more sponsorships for me. You're on my crosshair as candidate to sponsors comment on my MOTU App  :>22:26
ari-tczewpwnguin: yes22:26
pwnguinok22:26
pwnguinjust wanted to verify; schedule adherence seems to change release to release. thanks22:27
tumbleweedari-tczew: can you mail me a list of syncs and merges I've done for you? I can only recall syncs right now22:27
ari-tczewtumbleweed: I'll wait for more sponsorships by you, okay?22:27
tumbleweedfine. I've only been a motu 2 weeks anyway :)22:28
ari-tczewcool22:28
tumbleweeddupondje: err yeah, I don't know why dholbach couldn't build xorp22:30
dupondjeyea its weird :)22:31
dupondjehttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xmakemol => We can drop the delta here ?22:35
dupondjexmakemol is in universe, so why does lesstif need to be in main for it ? :s22:36
tumbleweedthe problem is that the gl library isn't built with lesstif support22:37
tumbleweedbecause it's in main, but lesstif isn't22:38
dupondjeand why exactly we need lesstif support in gl ?22:40
tumbleweedxmakemol appears to need it. but I'm not diving to find out why, now. I'm guessing glut22:42
* tumbleweed heads to bed22:43
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ari-tczewdupondje: xorp built fine for me also.23:04
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