[01:17] <Quintasan> Riddell: I think I will have project neon qt tomorrow
[01:17] <Quintasan> I just need to work out dependencies
[02:16] <JontheEchidna> debfx: basically, my problem is that when the qaptworker is spawned by dbus as root, locale is set to C
[02:17] <JontheEchidna> when we want it to be the system locale
[02:21] <lex79> JontheEchidna: is there a way to don't allowed an upload with ~ppa or ~lucid~ppa to the archive? do you have something in your dput to do that? :)
[02:21] <JontheEchidna> hmm
[02:21] <JontheEchidna> nope
[02:21] <JontheEchidna> well, I don't have a way
[02:22] <lex79> oh ok
[02:22] <JontheEchidna> I usually have to do more work to tab-complete out a ~ppa
[02:30] <JontheEchidna> yay, tray context menus have their decorations for the application names back \o/
[02:33] <lex79> :)
[02:48] <lex79> ScottK: FYI right click on quassel doesn't work anymore with the recent updates
[03:10] <maco> lex79: set your default dput to null so you dont accidentally dput to archive
[03:12] <lex79> maco: thanks :)
[04:25] <vorian> lex79: you are awesome
[04:26] <micahg> is there any chance of KDE 4.4.5 making it into -updates, or only -backports?
[04:27] <lex79> hi vorian :)
[04:27] <vorian> hika
[04:27] <vorian> congrats on kubuntu-dev
[04:28] <lex79> vorian: thanks :-*
[04:29] <lex79> vorian: if you want to do something, there is kdebindings for you. Your old love :)
[04:30] <vorian> yay!
[04:30] <vorian> but i'm having trouble with my pbuilder :(
[04:31] <lex79> oh :(
[04:32] <vorian> yeah, two days, and I'll be all set
[04:32] <vorian> i still have my chroots, I just have to adjust my pbuild
[04:32] <vorian> unless you want to remind me pbuild 
[04:33] <vorian> pbuild X -S -sa
[04:33] <vorian> or something>
[07:45] <apachelogger> ehm
[07:45] <apachelogger> kde rev 1122054
[07:45]  * apachelogger does not think that this sounds right
[08:16] <apachelogger> oh
[08:22] <jussi> you know I was on gnome yesterday, and I noticed one thing that could be nice for us to pick up. when requiring a restart, the power "button" on the panel actually changes color. and when you hit the button, it has "restart required" asx one of the items. 
[08:23] <jussi> perhaps something along these lines ais a good option?
[09:04] <apachelogger> hmmmmm
[09:04] <apachelogger> well
[09:04] <apachelogger> jussi: if we had a button on the panel :P
[09:04] <apachelogger> could be considered for plasma-netbook I suppose
[09:05] <jussi> apachelogger: true... I keep forgetting I add that
[09:05] <apachelogger> OTOH ... why would I restart where I usually would shutdown?
[09:05] <jussi> apachelogger: its a power button, so you do things lyke turn off power, cycle the power etc ;)
[09:06] <apachelogger> I mean, there is certainly a point to having the restart button jump into your face, but "replacing" a shutdown with a restart just because it might be good to restart is bogus
[09:06] <Quintasan> I don't like this. Totally makes no sense.
[09:06] <Quintasan> what apachelogger 
[09:06] <Quintasan> said
[09:07] <apachelogger> it sort of enforces that you need to restart where you would usually do a shutdown, possibly suggesting that restart is ultimately necessary and one should not just shutdown
[09:07] <apachelogger> it is a bit of a paradigm break :)
[09:07] <Quintasan> It's like you go on holidays, hit the power button and two weeks later you find out that your computer was sitting on login screen all the time
[09:08]  * apachelogger is wondering why one cannot debug libqapt properly -.-
[09:08] <Quintasan> OH MY SORRY, WE RESTARTED UR COMPUTER CUZ U HAD SOME FIXES
[09:08] <apachelogger> Quintasan: yeah ^^
[09:08] <Quintasan> hmm
[09:08] <Quintasan> Yesterday I got Broken pipe when building Qt
[09:09] <Quintasan> grr
[09:09] <Quintasan> I should have started compiling it in screen session
[09:10] <apachelogger> aha!
[09:10] <apachelogger> it would seem that someone broke my qt creator!!! :O
[09:10] <apachelogger> omg
[09:11] <Quintasan> apachelogger: sually, it is your fault
[09:11] <Quintasan> Usually*
[09:11] <apachelogger> unlikely
[09:11] <apachelogger> see
[09:11] <apachelogger> they introduced python
[09:11] <apachelogger> so
[09:11] <apachelogger> ...
[09:11] <Quintasan> WUT
[09:11] <Quintasan> PYTHONZ IN MAH QTCREATORZ?
[09:11] <Quintasan> This is preposterous!
[09:11] <apachelogger> qt creator 2.0 does python scirpt0ring to gdb7 AFAIK
[09:12] <apachelogger> to support inspection for complex types
[09:12] <Quintasan> I assume they were too lazy to implement it in c++
[09:12] <apachelogger> I think that is coming from gdb
[09:13] <apachelogger> gdb -> gnu -> brrrrr
[09:13] <apachelogger> :P
[09:13] <Quintasan> how the hell gnu has to do something with qtcreator using python?
[09:13] <apachelogger> because it is used for gdb
[09:13] <apachelogger> and now breakpoints seem VERY broken
[09:14] <apachelogger> or maybe some setting is incompatible :S
[09:14]  * apachelogger starts crying over broken qt creator
[09:14] <apachelogger> horrible
[09:14] <apachelogger> I set a bp in main and that thing just ignores it
[09:15] <Quintasan> That's python for you.
[09:15] <Quintasan> Works always, but not as expected
[09:16] <apachelogger> yay
[09:16] <apachelogger> I can set main as function bp
[09:17] <apachelogger> then I can debug in assembly ^^
[09:17] <apachelogger> 0x080517d8  <+32>:            	call   0x80520ae <_ZN10QAptWorkerC1ERiPPc>
[09:17] <apachelogger> hm
[09:18] <apachelogger> for some reason even in asm it avoids going through stuff step by step :/
[09:19] <Quintasan> okay
[09:19] <Quintasan> I'm going to play DnD
[09:19] <Quintasan> Qt is building and I should upload it to Project Neon PPA soon
[09:19]  * apachelogger should play metal gear solid -.-
[09:20] <apachelogger> that is way too depressing
[09:20] <apachelogger> and I wanted to polish the ubuntuone-auth code today -.-
[09:20] <apachelogger> hm
[09:21] <apachelogger> OTOH, maybe my Q_GLOBAL_STATIC is at fault
[09:21] <apachelogger> though that does not explain why gdb walks past breakpoints
[10:05] <apachelogger> oh my
[10:05]  * apachelogger cannot put up with jontheechidna's license headers
[10:05] <apachelogger> makes you wheep when you need to change stuff
[10:08] <CIA-33> [libqapt] sitter * 1147838 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/worker/ (CMakeLists.txt debug.cpp debug.h) voila aptDebug(), logs to /var/log/qaptworker.log, no rotation no size limit (TODO)
[10:10] <CIA-33> [libqapt] sitter * 1147839 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (workerdbus.cpp workerdbus.h) Do not add files that are built by CMakeLists anyway.
[10:12] <CIA-33> [libqapt] sitter * 1147840 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/worker/ (org.kubuntu.qaptworker.xml worker.cpp worker.h) Introduce Worker::setLocale(QString) to set the worker's locale using setlocale().
[10:13] <CIA-33> [libqapt] sitter * 1147841 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/backend.cpp Set worker's locale from the backend (assumption is that the backend is used in the user's executable and the user's executable has a sensible locale, otherwise worker is C).
[10:14] <CIA-33> [libqapt] sitter * 1147842 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/worker/worker.cpp Get really all indexes -> this makes localization of package descriptions etc. work :)
[10:16] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100709091616-brwukj19ew75uam1 * src/auth/AuthApplication.cpp cleanup
[10:16] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100709091621-f3yj0ia7ipwxd814 * src/statusnotifier/StatusNotifier.cpp typo--
[10:24] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100709092400-pgnkawkwl1cqbudp * src/auth/ (AuthHandler.cpp AuthHandler.h) formatting++ memleaks-- const&++
[10:27] <apachelogger> hm
[10:40] <apachelogger>  (s→((k→(¬h→(g V e) V p))) V (g→(¬h→e) V p)) ↓ ((g→(¬h→e) V h) V e)→e 
[10:40] <apachelogger> \o/
[10:40] <apachelogger> something along those lines anyway
[10:41] <apachelogger> and that is supposed to make authing working :S
[11:06] <steveire_> Riddell: ping?
[11:12] <Mamarok> why do I have to ssh-add my key on restart every time? Why doesn't the agent keep that information and how can I make this to work?
[11:12] <apachelogger> Mamarok: supposedly the agent will only use standard named keys
[11:12] <apachelogger> just a random guess though
[11:13] <Mamarok> apachelogger: well, I don't think I sue a non-standard named key, it's the same since years
[11:13] <steveire_> apachelogger: Do you know if the lokalize package is broken in 9.10 ?
[11:13] <Mamarok> use*
[11:13] <steveire_> I don't seem to have any plugins in my ui
[11:13] <apachelogger> steveire_: dude, can you upgrade already :P
[11:13] <apachelogger> nothing reported though
[11:13] <apachelogger> maybe a dep is missing
[11:13] <apachelogger> Recommends: krosspython, python-kde4, gettext, translate-toolkit (>= 1.3.0), python-lxml, python-dbus
[11:14] <apachelogger> steveire_: check that those foos are installed, if they are then I have no idea :/
[11:17] <steveire_> apachelogger: I had to install libkrosspython0, but it still doesn't work.
[11:17] <apachelogger> :/
[11:18] <apachelogger> QA fail
[11:18] <steveire_> I also tried to install libhunspell-dev and install from trunk, but cmake doesn't find hunspell.
[11:18] <steveire_> That might be a cmake issue.
[11:18] <steveire_> lokalize starts, but the ui is almost empty. There is no "Go to next translated message" etc
[11:18] <apachelogger> kbuildsycoca4?
[11:18] <apachelogger> Quintasan: python ^ :P
[11:19] <steveire_> Ran kbuildsycoca4. No change
[11:20] <apachelogger> steveire_: any debug output (possibly with kdebugdialog ->  everything on)
[11:22] <apachelogger> mehhhhhhhh include /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/simple-patchsys.mk
[11:22] <apachelogger> ubuntuone--
[11:22] <steveire_> http://dpaste.com/216284/
[11:23] <steveire_> Doesn't seem to be relevant.
[11:27]  * apachelogger loves how krunner is 300% more useless in beta2 -.-
[11:29] <apachelogger> steveire_: packaging does not look much different from what I have on 10.04
[11:30] <steveire_> and lokalize had useful menus and toolbars? I'll post a screenshot of what I have
[11:31] <apachelogger> http://imagebin.ca/view/cHhLDt2.html
[11:32] <steveire_> http://yfrog.com/izlokalizep
[11:32] <steveire_> There is no go menu. Toolbar actions are missing etc
[11:36] <Tm_T> apachelogger: beta2?
[11:37] <apachelogger> of course kde does not work from inside a chroot without first breaking your neck
[11:39] <Quintasan> kurrr
[11:40] <Quintasan> http://wklej.org/id/362304/
[11:41] <Quintasan> apachelogger: how does one fix that crap?
[11:43] <apachelogger> hmmm
[11:43] <apachelogger> steveire_: are you sure that stuff is avilable in 4.3.2?
[11:43] <apachelogger> Quintasan: by not using lrelease-qt4 in the rules file
[11:44] <apachelogger> Kross: "Action::setInterpreter: interpreter not found: python" 
[11:44] <apachelogger> oh
[11:44] <apachelogger> odd
[11:45] <apachelogger> steveire_: I do not have those entries in a clean chroot with just lokalize installed
[11:46] <apachelogger> well, in 9.10 anyways ^^
[11:52] <apachelogger> ehm
[11:52] <apachelogger> hm
[11:52] <Riddell> steveire_: ping
[11:52] <Riddell> hmm, no, pong
[11:55] <apachelogger> steveire_: with libkrosspython0 installed the interpreter warning disappears and the create new project entry starts working
[11:56] <steveire_> Riddell: Read up :).
[11:57] <apachelogger> wooosh
[11:57] <apachelogger> steveire_: problem seems to be that /usr/share/kde4/apps/lokalize/projectmanagerui.rc does not contain the go menu entry at all
[11:58] <steveire_> apachelogger: Problem seems to be solved
[11:59] <steveire_> I use a separate kde-devel user. That one has the issue, but my regular user does not get a useful app
[11:59] <steveire_> The question of why the other user doesn't have useful ui remains a mystery.
[12:00] <apachelogger> path problem most likely
[12:00] <steveire_> I don't have a trunk install of lokalize.
[12:00] <apachelogger> looking at wrong ui rc or some stuff
[12:00] <steveire_> I guess that must be it.
[12:00] <steveire_> CMake doesn't find my install of hunspell, so I can't try trunk lokalize
[12:00] <steveire_> I'm not sure how to solve that because I have libhunspell-dev installed.
[12:01] <apachelogger> Riddell: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/ubuntuone-client/stable-1-2-lucid+kwallet/annotate/head:/debian/patches/01syncd-kwallet.patch
[12:02] <apachelogger> supposedly I could do the same for desktopcouch
[12:02] <apachelogger> steveire_: well, you probably can define the lib path manually
[12:02] <apachelogger> lib&include
[12:02] <steveire_> Possibly. Got to catch a train soon, so I'll have to try that another time.
[12:03] <apachelogger> -DHUNSPELL_FOUND=true -DHUNSPELL_INCLUDE_DIR=/foo/bar -DHUNSPELL_LIBRARIES=/foo/lib/libhunspell.1.0.0
[12:03] <apachelogger> something like that
[12:04] <steveire_> Cool, cheers.
[12:11] <Riddell> apachelogger: yay
[12:11] <Riddell> apachelogger: but shouldn't the try: be above import gnomekeyring?
[12:11] <apachelogger> Riddell: there are 2 imports
[12:12] <apachelogger> if kde full session is set
[12:12] <apachelogger> it will try to get a password from kwallet
[12:12] <apachelogger> if that raises NoAccessToken
[12:12] <apachelogger> it tries to import gnome-keyring (assuming that the user does not use ubuntuone-kde)
[12:13] <apachelogger> if that fails we are out of options and pass the previous NoAccessToken along
[12:13] <apachelogger> if the import succeeds it goes ahead and ends up with the try         try:
[12:13] <apachelogger>             items = gnomekeyring.find_items_sync(
[12:14] <apachelogger> if kde full session is not set it will go to the else and import gnome-keyring without regards to whether that throws an exception or not
[12:19] <hrw> bug 331192 hits again - can someone look?
[12:20] <CIA-33> [u1-client-lucid-kwallet] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100709112045-nofp6dsuwmns5wkx * debian/ (changelog patches/01syncd-kwallet.patch) KDE_FULL_SESSION must not only be set but true
[12:23] <gunsofbrixton> hi, sorry for bothering, when can kde 4.5 rc2 packages be expected in the beta ppa?
[12:24] <apachelogger> soon
[12:24] <gunsofbrixton> ok cool
[12:38] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: I've run in to the same QtDBus bug
[12:38] <apachelogger> http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-july-7-2010/the-crumpets-take-manhattan
[12:38] <apachelogger> \o/
[12:39] <JontheEchidna> oh
[12:39] <JontheEchidna> that was my commit :D
[12:39] <JontheEchidna> well, it definitely won't work as generated by qdbuscpp2xml
[12:40] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: did you report that
[12:41] <apachelogger> because I am not sure it is right the way it is
[12:41] <apachelogger> the thing is
[12:41] <apachelogger> the direction of the properties is out
[12:41] <apachelogger> but the type name is InN
[12:41] <apachelogger> that does not seem right
[12:41] <apachelogger> also, it only fails for signals
[12:41] <apachelogger> methods work just fine
[12:42] <JontheEchidna> I hadn't reported it yet
[12:42] <apachelogger> maybe talk to a troll first ^^
[12:44] <JontheEchidna> btw, thanks for the fix \o/
[12:52] <JontheEchidna> BBIAB
[12:52] <JontheEchidna> erm, sorry for caps
[12:52] <JontheEchidna> stupid caps lock
[13:34] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: would you be opposed to turning those compiler warnings in Debug.cpp to // TODO: comments?
[13:34] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: if you wish to do that :P
[13:34] <JontheEchidna> ok, I will
[13:34] <apachelogger> there is a 100% chance of me not fixing it though :P
[13:34]  * apachelogger barely notices the TODO comments ^^
[13:36] <JontheEchidna> I think libdbusmenu-qt needs less qDebug: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktopzq1498-jpg.jpg
[13:49] <CIA-33> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1147956 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/backend.cpp Silence a few qDebugs, also some style fixes
[13:51] <CIA-33> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1147958 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/backend.cpp (log message trimmed)
[13:51] <CIA-33> The current approach won't work, because the worker could very well time out
[13:51] <CIA-33> between the time the backend is constructed and the time the user checks for
[13:56] <CIA-33> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1147960 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp Set locale in qapt-batch too (we aren't using the QApt::Backend)
[13:58] <CIA-33> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1147961 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/worker/ (worker.cpp worker.h) Some style fixes
[14:01] <Quintasan> urgh
[14:01] <Quintasan> Qt takes a long time to build
[14:09] <txwikinger> Quintasan: get a faster machine :p
[14:15] <Quintasan> txwikinger: It's Riddell's machine
[14:15] <Quintasan> :)
[14:34] <Riddell> it's showing its age that machine
[14:35] <Tm_T> if it builds Qt faster than in 2 hours, it's far from slow in my point of view
[14:38] <Riddell> I doubt it does
[14:39] <Riddell> yum, rekonq 0.5 is the goodness
[14:40] <Riddell> oh, hum, crash
[14:40] <Riddell> sigh
[14:40] <nuovodna> hi, when will be available kde 4.4.92 on lucid backport ppa '
[14:41] <ScottK> nuovodna: When it's ready.
[14:42] <ScottK> Riddell: qt4-x11 on armel had an ICE, so don't expect any armel goodness anytime soon.
[14:43] <txwikinger> compiling is mostly I/O anyway
[14:50] <CIA-33> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1147982 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/worker/ (worker.cpp worker.h) These lock functions are unused, since we are not a browsable package manager that wishes to not have its contents changed. Our various other functions lock the stuff they need to lock
[15:00] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: I looked again and libktorrent went to New in Debian.
[15:06] <Riddell> ScottK: fooey
[15:07] <Riddell> nuovodna: 4.4.92 is a source only release, so upstream doesn't expect distros to make packages.  We will do so of course but no time set yet
[15:07] <nuovodna> thanks Riddell
[15:32] <ScottK> Riddell: The updates you uploaded yesterday helped with the menubar.  I'm thinking maybe we ought to try it as default in netbook and see what feedback we get.
[15:32] <ScottK> Riddell: I'm thinking put it on the left side (like in my blog post yesterday), turn off autohide for the default panel, and reduce the default panel height to 24 pixels.
[15:33] <ScottK> Thoughts?
[15:39] <shtylman> one day I am gonna go to kubuntu.org and see the new site
[15:39] <shtylman> hopefully... one day before I die...
[15:39] <shtylman> :)
[15:41] <CIA-33> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1148020 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (backend.cpp package.cpp package.h worker/worker.cpp) Theoretical support for package downgrading/general forced version overriding
[15:42] <JontheEchidna> now it just needs a gui...
[15:42] <yofel> bug 600481, hm... what happened to the point release permission for -updates?
[15:43] <Riddell> ScottK: yes I agree with all that, it needs javascript initialisation for plasma netbook to do added to kubuntu-netbook-default-settings, we also need to add back the lockout applet as part of that
[15:43] <JontheEchidna> yofel: waiting on KDE release policy changes, I believe
[15:43] <yofel> ah
[15:51] <CIA-33> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1148023 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (package.cpp package.h) Better API
[15:54] <Riddell> ScottK: internet getting shut off here, can't be at release meeting today, if you want to say something for Kubuntu please do, I've not prepared anything
[15:59] <ScottK> Riddell: Got it.
[16:16] <CIA-33> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1148038 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/package.cpp Actually return something. :/
[16:17] <ScottK> Riddell: On the off chance you still have internet: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus
[16:18] <CIA-33> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1148040 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/package.cpp Also, formatting.
[16:43] <oxymoron> Kde4.5 RC2, is it compiled for Kubuntu Lucid? :)
[16:44] <ScottK> shadeslayer: New rekonq doesn't work with Launchpad.  There's an error after you save a new comment.
[16:44] <ScottK> oxymoron: Not yet.  Being worked on.
[16:44] <oxymoron> ScottK: Approx time to be released (No rush, just want to know)
[16:44] <oxymoron> *?
[16:44] <ScottK> Not sure, as I'm not working on it myself.  When it's ready.
[16:45] <oxymoron> I just want to know if its, days, weeks, months, years, minutes or hours weyre talking about :P It released yesterday so I guess it COULD be out today :P
[16:46] <jussi> oxymoron: probably couple of days
[16:47] <oxymoron> jussi: Alright :) (Not sure if you say so because I dont gonna be frustraed if not and happy if earlier) Anyway, sounds good :) Hopefully some more bugs fixed so my desktop get more useful :P
[16:49] <oxymoron> btw, whats the difference between kubuntu-ppa/ppa and kubuntu-ppa/beta repository ppas?
[16:49] <oxymoron> Mostly I dont understand whats inside the kubuntu-ppa/ppa :P Beta one is more logic ...
[16:50] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100709155048-3fgaap0kbn40aern * src/ (30 files in 8 dirs) Formatting++
[17:01] <CIA-33> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1148060 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/backend.cpp We have to use the candidate version to downgrade things
[17:01] <jussi> oxymoron: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuPPAs
[17:06] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100709160537-zt3omm26mm82lvq5 * src/libs/ (SyncDaemonDBus.cpp SyncDaemonDBus.h CMakeLists.txt) Move SyncDaemonDBus adaptor to magic, erm, build time ;)
[17:06] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100709160629-d24fk2frwzg2m1tf * src/statusnotifier/ (StatusNotifier.cpp StatusNotifier.h) My member shall be called m_member \o/
[17:22] <apachelogger> redmine++
[17:24] <simulacrum> oxymoron: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuPPAs
[17:25] <shadeslayer> ScottK: not much i can do about it :P
[17:26] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Talk to the LP people about it and figure out the exact problem, then talk to upstream.
[17:26] <ScottK> Our default web browser needs to work on LP
[17:26] <shadeslayer> ScottK: okies...
[17:26] <shadeslayer> ScottK: will get to it in 30 mis
[17:26] <shadeslayer> *mins
[17:27] <ScottK> OK
[17:28] <simulacrum> oxymoron: I think one of those PPA's is useless but nonetheless..
[17:33] <shadeslayer> ScottK: btw whats the exact error?
[17:33] <shadeslayer> oho.. new authentication stuff works.. password dialog comes on top
[17:44] <shadeslayer> ScottK: btw who has the authority to set bugs to wishlist status?
[17:52] <shadeslayer> ScottK: lp is silent as of now ;)
[17:52] <Quintasan> Riddell: did you turn off the machine or it moved again?
[17:55] <JontheEchidna> Quintasan: his internet got shut off by his ISP
[17:55] <Quintasan> oh my
[17:55] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: whut?!
[17:55]  * Quintasan hopes it wasn't caused by pulling whole Qt tree 4 times
[17:55] <shadeslayer> Riddell: sue your ISP :P
[17:55]  * Quintasan hides if that's the case
[17:56] <JontheEchidna> [10:54:59] <Riddell> ScottK: internet getting shut off here, can't be at release meeting today, if you want to say something for Kubuntu please do, I've not prepared anything
[17:56] <shadeslayer> oh wow...
[17:56] <Quintasan> oh god, I'm getting a paid service
[17:56] <Quintasan> No point in abusing Riddell's internets
[17:57] <shadeslayer> hehe
[17:58] <JontheEchidna> yay, package downgrading works \o/
[17:58] <JontheEchidna> now I just need to make the GUI more permanent
[17:59] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: now.. why would anyone want to do that... ? 
[17:59] <shadeslayer> its not even supported :P
[17:59] <JontheEchidna> shadeslayer: say you don't want the version of an app in lucid-backorts anymore. You could then downgrade and disable lucid-backports
[18:00] <JontheEchidna> synaptic does this, and now libqapt/muon can
[18:00] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: uh... what about other packages that have to be downgraded and the user doensnt know about them?
[18:00] <shadeslayer> like the new version has a new dep which got pulled in
[18:00] <JontheEchidna> that is why both synaptic and now muon come with a big fat warning that you can break things :P
[18:00] <shadeslayer> oh goody...
[18:01]  * shadeslayer shuts up and goes to break some muons
[18:01] <JontheEchidna> It's a "use this if you know what you are doing" type tool
[18:01] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: Just to make sure, it should mention things can "breaK"
[18:01] <shadeslayer> hehe :D
[18:01] <Quintasan> and the K should be xbox hueg
[18:02] <JontheEchidna> lol
[18:02] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: Besides, why Muon?
[18:02]  * shadeslayer hopes people wont troddle into #kubuntu about broken stuff after using muon
[18:02] <shadeslayer> +asking
[18:02] <JontheEchidna> Because the latest KDE naming trend is to name your application after subatomic particles
[18:02] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: its kool... thats why :P
[18:02] <JontheEchidna> or other particle physics terms
[18:03] <JontheEchidna> e.g. phonon, plasma
[18:03] <JontheEchidna> gluon
[18:03] <JontheEchidna> muon
[18:03] <JontheEchidna> etc
[18:03] <Quintasan> name it Quark
[18:03] <Quintasan> QuarK
[18:03] <Quintasan> :d
[18:03] <shadeslayer> also.. muon looks good in the new ubuntu font :p
[18:03] <JontheEchidna> naming fad overl0ad
[18:04]  * shadeslayer does dirty stuff to apachelogger on #project-neon 
[18:04] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: why don't you add something like small trollface showing up accompanied by an error message when critial error occurs?
[18:04] <JontheEchidna> :3
[18:04] <JontheEchidna> http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktopon1498-jpg.jpg
[18:04]  * apachelogger feels dirty
[18:05] <JontheEchidna> hmm, lionface looks weird with Ubuntu Beta font
[18:05] <JontheEchidna> http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktopxc1498-jpg.jpg
[18:05] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: thats not a big fat warning.. thats just tenee weene
[18:05] <apachelogger> I call the font weird in itself
[18:06] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: nooo... ubuntu font ++ 
[18:06] <apachelogger> you bun too font
[18:06] <shadeslayer> i find it insanely hot
[18:06] <apachelogger> Windows Font
[18:06] <apachelogger> Fedora Font
[18:06] <apachelogger> I see a pattern there
[18:06] <apachelogger> oha
[18:06] <apachelogger> they do not have such names
[18:06] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: fedora font?
[18:06] <apachelogger> oh
[18:06] <Quintasan> besides, OPEN FONT with closed beta
[18:06] <Quintasan> lol
[18:06] <JontheEchidna> fine
[18:06] <JontheEchidna> http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktopbl1498-jpg.jpg
[18:06] <apachelogger> possibly because it is narrow minded
[18:06] <apachelogger> but oh my
[18:07] <JontheEchidna> shadeslayer: happy?
[18:07] <apachelogger> who would think that one might want to have a new font
[18:07] <apachelogger> oh
[18:07] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: still loading
[18:07] <apachelogger> we can always make it you bun too font two 
[18:07] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: muon is eating my crappy connection to download upgrades :P
[18:07] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: oh god, leave the message as it is now!
[18:07] <Quintasan> :DDD
[18:07] <apachelogger> there, my theory of mind just solved a future problem 
[18:07] <JontheEchidna> I don't think kde-l10n would like XBOX HUEG very much.... :(
[18:07]  * apachelogger feels all better now and goes on to reply to queries -.-
[18:08] <JontheEchidna> Quintasan: maybe you could start a 4chan translation in LP
[18:08] <shadeslayer> hehe...
[18:08] <JontheEchidna> like they did with kligon
[18:08]  * shadeslayer kills muon
[18:08] <apachelogger> oh
[18:08] <JontheEchidna> *klingon
[18:08] <Quintasan> They did Klingon translation? :DD
[18:08] <JontheEchidna> at one point they had one
[18:08]  * apachelogger thought that JontheEchidna was refering to translation via IRC (channels)
[18:08] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: Much better :D
[18:08] <apachelogger> that would be handy
[18:09] <apachelogger> have a bot tell you strings and you reply with translations
[18:09] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: still missing a space between mostapplicable
[18:09] <apachelogger> that could avoid stages of silence in here
[18:09] <JontheEchidna> shadeslayer: thx
[18:09] <apachelogger> muhahaha
[18:09] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: oh oh.. make the text bold :P
[18:10] <apachelogger> and sparkly!
[18:10] <apachelogger> coloring also adds a nice touch to it I suppose
[18:10] <apachelogger> something orange mabye
[18:10] <apachelogger> (maybe
[18:10] <shadeslayer> with a little pic of apachelogger dancing naked... :P
[18:10] <Quintasan> NO
[18:10] <Quintasan> JUST PLAIN OLD NO
[18:10] <Quintasan> !
[18:10] <apachelogger> I once proposed nakid picture deployment
[18:10] <JontheEchidna> do not want
[18:10] <apachelogger> people did disapprove
[18:10] <apachelogger> as always
[18:10]  * apachelogger is just too innovative
[18:10] <Quintasan> :O
[18:11] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: theres a packaged called pornviewer in universe :P
[18:11] <shadeslayer> or something similar
[18:11] <apachelogger> I am like the van goh of nowadays
[18:11] <JontheEchidna> !info pornview
[18:11]  * shadeslayer has never heard of van goh
[18:11] <Quintasan> :DD
[18:11] <shadeslayer> see... told you :P
[18:12] <JontheEchidna> silly name for a media app
[18:12] <shadeslayer> saw it being discussed in #ubuntu-motu few days ago :P
[18:12] <JontheEchidna> it is GTK anyways, so it fails :P
[18:12] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: there was hotbabe as well.. 
[18:12] <shadeslayer> right ...
[18:12] <apachelogger> gee tee kay
[18:12] <shadeslayer> gtk--
[18:12] <apachelogger> well
[18:12] <apachelogger> it got a kay in it
[18:12] <apachelogger> cant be that bad
[18:12] <JontheEchidna> kay dee eee
[18:12] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: you stole my thoughts
[18:13]  * shadeslayer thinks apachelogger is thought hunter
[18:13] <shadeslayer> kthoughthunter ? :P
[18:13] <apachelogger> at least I am not searching the repos for p0rn :P
[18:14] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i wasnt searching for anything.. someone bought it up on motu :P
[18:14] <apachelogger> yeah sure :P
[18:14] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: check the logs if you like!!!!!!!!!
[18:14] <lex79> o/
[18:14] <shadeslayer> lex79: hey :D
[18:14] <apachelogger> I do not, my truth is superior anyway :P
[18:14] <apachelogger> apachelogger > irc logs
[18:14] <apachelogger> yo lex79
[18:15] <lex79> yo yo
[18:15] <apachelogger> people where asking for the kde :Pd
[18:15] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: nope... i package truth 1.1 >> apachelogger >> irclogs
[18:15] <lex79> Riddell: are you working on Qt beta2 ?
[18:15] <Quintasan> Riddell's connection is dead
[18:15] <shadeslayer> lex79: Riddell has no interwebs
[18:15] <apachelogger> why would you be streaming from me on irclogs? :P
[18:15] <shadeslayer> :P
[18:15] <apachelogger> I am not even sure that is implemented
[18:15] <lex79> oh
[18:16] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: rofl
[18:16] <apachelogger> your compiler possibly will eat you for that
[18:16] <lex79> shadeslayer: what about your packages?
[18:16] <apachelogger> unless it is made by Microsoft
[18:16] <lex79> are you doing?
[18:16] <shadeslayer> lex79: im working on them ;)
[18:16] <apachelogger> in that case it will implicitly create that stuff for you
[18:16] <lex79> shadeslayer: go go !
[18:16] <apachelogger> output will be: "sls......1111"
[18:16] <apachelogger> or similarly useful \o/
[18:16] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: will it implicitly share what it creates?
[18:16] <JontheEchidna> or does it like to nom the memorys?
[18:16]  * lex79 grabs qt beta 2
[18:17] <shadeslayer> lex79: go go !
[18:17] <lex79> lol
[18:17] <neversfelde> hehe
[18:18] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: depends on the humidity
[18:18] <apachelogger> possibly also on whether it is cloudy or not
[18:18] <apachelogger> kubotu: weather redmond
[18:18] <kubotu> multiple stations available, use 'weather station <code>' or 'weather <city, state>' as appropriate, for one of the following (current temp shown):
[18:18] <kubotu> Redmond, OR (Redmond, Oregon): 81 F / 27 C ; Redmond, UT (Redmond, Utah): 81 F / 27 C ; *Redmond, WA (Redmond, Washington): 78 F / 26 C 
[18:18] <apachelogger> Oo
[18:18] <apachelogger> you people have serious naming problems over there...
[18:19] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: oh btw muon is wasting space when installing stuff
[18:19] <JontheEchidna> shadeslayer: wasting space?
[18:19] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: use for something usefull :P
[18:19] <JontheEchidna> oh
[18:19] <apachelogger> muon is wasting RAM!
[18:19] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: http://imagebin.ca/view/gbhBwJO.html
[18:19] <apachelogger> starts worker at startup, instead of first use :P
[18:19] <shadeslayer> see the amount of grey matter around the blue bar :P
[18:19] <apachelogger> so if I just want to browse a bit a worker will be running for no reason
[18:20] <neversfelde> it should waste some temperature
[18:20] <apachelogger> what is that silly font there?
[18:20] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: that's because you set the worker locale in the QApt::Backend constructor, svn up :P
[18:20] <apachelogger> neversfelde: not liking the sauna mode?
[18:20] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: it did do that before?
[18:20] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: btw theres a feature request from arch users... make muon use different backends for downloading packages :P
[18:20] <lex79> neversfelde: guten abend :) poor Germany :( I hope win the Holand now
[18:20] <apachelogger> that bonkery shit should not be in the ctor eitherway!
[18:20] <shadeslayer> like axel,wget,etc etc
[18:21] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: nope, only when you send it a dbus signal. Creating the dbus adaptor doesn't start the app
[18:21] <neversfelde> apachelogger: no at the moment, trying to cool down with a drink now
[18:21] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: some nice init() function, then have if (adaptor == 0)
[18:21] <neversfelde> lex79: guten Abend, no better not the Netherlands :)
[18:21] <apachelogger> lex79: dude, germany...
[18:22] <apachelogger> those germans are such cry babies
[18:22] <lex79> :D
[18:22] <apachelogger> they where like all "OMG"
[18:22] <apachelogger> no
[18:22] <neversfelde> especially when it is too hot :)
[18:22] <apachelogger> OMG with ad breaks
[18:22] <apachelogger> I decided to not watch tv :P
[18:23] <lex79> neversfelde: is it hot in Germany  ?
[18:23] <lex79> :P
[18:23] <apachelogger> kubotu: weather germany
[18:23] <kubotu> multiple stations available, use 'weather station <code>' or 'weather <city, state>' as appropriate, for one of the following (current temp shown):
[18:23] <kubotu> station 10501 (Aachen): 91 F / 33 C ; station 10553 (Altenburg Nobitz): 90 F / 32 C ; station 10954 (Altenstadt): 82 F / 28 C ; station 10291 (Angermuende): 86 F / 30 C ; station 10755 (Ansbach): 90 F / 32 C ; station 10091 (Arkona): 81 F / 27 C ; station 10425 (Arnsberg): 91 F / 33 C ; station 10460 (Artern): 90 F / 32 C ; station 10644 (Aschaffenburg): 90 F / 32 C ; station 10575 (Aue): 84 F / 29 C ; station 10852
[18:23] <kubotu> (Augsburg): 84 F / 29 C ; station 10542 (Bad Hersfeld): 88 F / 31 C ; station 10658 (Bad Kissingen): 86 F / 30 C ; station 10627 (Bad Kreuznach): 88 F / 31 C ; station 10430 (Bad Lippspringe): 90 F / 32 C ; station 10526 (Bad Marienberg): 88 F / 31 C ; station 10325 (Bad Salzuflen): 90 F / 32 C ; station 10971 (Bad Tolz): 84 F / 29 C ; station 10725 (Baden Oos): 90 F / 32 C ; station 10675 (Bamberg): 91 F / 33 C ;
[18:23] <kubotu> station 10180 (Barth</a>
[18:23] <kubotu> <tr bgcolor="#ddeeff">
[18:23] <neversfelde> lex79: 38 degrees Celsius here at the moment and I have to work :(
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[18:23] <apachelogger> parsing fail!
[18:23] <lex79> oh :(
[18:23] <apachelogger> html warser ftw!
[18:23] <apachelogger> s/warser/parser
[18:24] <lex79> cwp plasmoid says here 30 C, feels like 36 C
[18:24] <apachelogger> does anyone know them k3b people?
[18:24] <Quintasan> kubotu: weather Lubin, Poland
[18:24] <kubotu> Weather info for Wroclaw, Poland (updated on 7:00 PM CEST on July 09, 2010); Temperature: 84 F / 29 C; Humidity: 30%; Dew Point: 50 F / 10 C; Wind: SE at 5 mph / 7 km/h; Pressure: 30.18 in / 1022 hPa (Steady); Conditions: Clear; Yesterday's Cooling Degree Days: 3 approx.; Sunrise: 4:49 AM CEST; Sunset: 9:11 PM CEST; Moon Rise: 1:56 AM CEST; Moon Set: 7:19 PM CEST; Moon Phase: Waning Crescent
[18:25] <shadeslayer> kubotu: weather Gurgaon,India
[18:25] <kubotu> Weather info for New Delhi, India (updated on 10:30 PM IST on July 09, 2010); Temperature: 91 F / 33 C; Humidity: 71%; Dew Point: 81 F / 27 C; Wind: North at 0 mph / 0 km/h; Pressure: 29.56 in / 1001 hPa (Steady); Conditions: Haze; Visibility: 1.6 miles / 2.5 kilometers; UV: 0 out of 16; Clouds: (FEW) : 4000 ft / 1219 m; Yesterday's Cooling Degree Days: 26 approx.; Sunrise: 5:31 AM IST; Sunset: 7:22 PM IST; Moon Rise:
[18:25] <kubotu> 2:39 AM IST; Moon Set: 5:07 PM IST; Moon Phase: Waning Crescent
[18:25] <Quintasan> feels like 40 C
[18:25] <apachelogger> rancid
[18:25]  * neversfelde will go to a music festival in August and listen to the incredible Gaslight Anthem
[18:25] <neversfelde> so it is a good day, even it is hot :)
[18:25] <lex79> too hot for my flavour
[18:26] <apachelogger> kubotu: order chewing gum
[18:26]  * kubotu slides chewing gum down the bar to apachelogger
[18:26]  * apachelogger now can do the haxx0ring
[18:27] <shadeslayer> ScottK: oh oh.. since lex79 is now uploading a new Qt,maybe we can get rekonq to recompile and maybe the bug magically disappears?
[18:27] <lex79> which bug?
[18:27]  * apachelogger doesnt know what to haxx0r and ponders watching some futurama
[18:27] <neversfelde> rekonq seems to be very unstable lately
[18:27] <shadeslayer> lex79: rekonq doesnt properly save comments on bugs
[18:28] <shadeslayer> neversfelde: it haz gtk in it
[18:28] <lex79> shadeslayer: we ship rekonq for that reason
[18:28] <lex79> so users can't open new bug
[18:28] <neversfelde> rofl
[18:29] <apachelogger> lex79: oi, that was meant to stay a secret!
[18:29] <lex79> ops sorry
[18:29] <lex79> :)
[18:29] <neversfelde> so if it is working, please pass a patch upstream that prevents users from using launchpad 
[18:29] <apachelogger> so, rekonq comes with GTK?
[18:29] <lex79> I make a patch to don't depend on gtk
[18:29] <apachelogger> that might improve translation quality :P
[18:30] <apachelogger> I leave it to you to decide what would improve the quality of those two patches :P
[18:30] <lex79> *I made
[18:30] <apachelogger> somehow my wording seems more off than usual
[18:31] <apachelogger> 2010-07-09 18:10:50,500 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.ActionQueue - ERROR - The request 'oauth_authenticate' failed with the error: 2010-07-09 18:10:50,500 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.ActionQueue - ERROR - The request 'oauth_authenticate' failed with the error:
[18:31] <apachelogger> does anyone find that useful?
[18:31]  * apachelogger does not
[18:33] <neversfelde> lex79: do we have cwp twice in the archives? I just remembered that I had this suspicion, but then I got drunk and Germany lost against Spain and I forgot.
[18:33] <neversfelde> plasma-widget-cwp and plasma-widget-customizable-weather
[18:34] <apachelogger> omg
[18:34] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: http://imagebin.ca/view/lm5jlH3T.html :(
[18:34] <lex79> lol
[18:34] <apachelogger> neversfelde: lol
[18:34] <lex79> neversfelde: yes
[18:34] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: hmm, two?
[18:34] <JontheEchidna> what are the details for the other one?
[18:34] <apachelogger> hm
[18:34] <apachelogger> oh
[18:34] <lex79> plasma-widget-customizable-weather have to go
[18:34] <apachelogger> the other one fails in post-inst
[18:35] <JontheEchidna> ah
[18:35] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: still an accumulated error might be better
[18:35] <JontheEchidna> I wonder if I could compress fail events, then report all at the end
[18:35] <JontheEchidna> yeah
[18:35] <apachelogger> though
[18:35] <lex79> neversfelde: can you open a bug to remove plasma-widget-customizable-weather? binary and source
[18:35] <JontheEchidna> otherwise installs with massive fail would be dialog overl0ad
[18:35] <apachelogger> why did this fail to begin with -.-
[18:35] <neversfelde> lex79: yes, probably not today, but tomorrow
[18:35] <lex79> kk
[18:36] <apachelogger> /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/main.py:330: Warning: 'as' will become a reserved keyword in Python 2.6
[18:36] <apachelogger> grrrr
[18:36] <apachelogger> python!!!!!!!
[18:36] <apachelogger> ARGHHGHHGHF
[18:36] <lex79> your love
[18:36] <apachelogger> python--
[18:36] <apachelogger> python--
[18:36] <apachelogger> python--
[18:36] <apachelogger> python--
[18:36] <apachelogger> python--
[18:36] <apachelogger> python--
[18:36] <apachelogger> python--
[18:36] <lex79> lol
[18:39] <pythonlova> I do not get this
[18:39] <pythonlova> oh
[18:40] <JontheEchidna> ~karma python
[18:40] <kubotu> karma for python: -10
[18:40] <CIA-33> [muon] jmthomas * 1148086 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (12 files in 2 dirs) Add a Versions tab where you can force specific versions. Also, make changes so that whenever a package changes, all tabs will properly refresh. (This matters now since we can change candidate ver)
[18:40] <pythonlova> http://pastebin.ca/1897368
[18:40] <pythonlova> looks like as is not supported in 2.5, but you bun too one also builds for 2.5 \o/
[18:42] <pythonlova> http://docs.python.org/tutorial/errors.html of course you would not want to mention that, python haxx0rs only develop and deploy and support one version anyway
[18:42] <ScottK> pythonlova: You shouldn't have any Python 2.5 in Lucide or Maverick.
[18:42] <pythonlova> ScottK: well, it is in the archives
[18:43] <ScottK> pythonlova: Not for lucid or maverick it's not.
[18:43] <pythonlova> hmmm
[18:44] <pythonlova> I wonder where that is coming from then
[18:45]  * Quintasan prepares some fire
[18:45]  * Quintasan throws pythonlova into fire
[18:45] <Quintasan> BURN BABY, BURN!
[18:45] <pythonlova> Ashh
[18:45] <pythonlova> -h
[18:46]  * pythonlova tunes in live version of that song \\o/
[18:46] <pythonlova> ScottK: cheers
[18:46] <pythonlova> without python2.5 it does do the workery
[18:53] <_Groo_> hi/2 all
[18:54] <_Groo_> anyone doing the qt4 beta2 and rc2 ?
[18:55] <Quintasan> hmm crosscompiling vim for armel seems like a hard task
[18:56] <lex79> _Groo_: yes
[19:01] <_Groo_> lex79: nice :D any ppa i could check?
[19:01] <lex79> for lucid we will upload in kubuntu beta ppa
[19:03] <pythonlova> python--
[19:04] <lex79> refresh_patches--
[19:05] <pythonlova> oh oh oh
[19:05] <pythonlova> maybe dbus is screwing with me too
[19:08] <ulysses> JontheEchidna: From where gets Muon the screenshots for applications?
[19:08] <JontheEchidna> ulysses: screenshots.debian.net
[19:09] <ulysses> Ah, then I understand why are they so old:)
[19:09] <JontheEchidna> :)
[19:09] <_Groo_> lex79: is it building as we speak?
[19:10] <CIA-33> [muon] jmthomas * 1148094 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/DetailsTabs/VersionTab.cpp A few layout improvements for the versions tab
[19:10] <lex79> _Groo_: be patient, when all it's ready you will know ;)
[19:12] <_Groo_> lex79: k :)
[19:17] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Did you see anything like Bug #603711 before?
[19:18] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: not that particular traceback, no. (It a backend issue, so I've pushed it to packagekit)
[19:18] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Thanks.
[19:18] <JontheEchidna> yup, hopefully we can switch to aptcc this cycle, once it gets dist-ugprade support
[19:20] <ScottK> Over 200Mb of debug packages to get a plasma-netbook traceback.
[19:20] <pythonlova> and that is with lzma
[19:20] <pythonlova> oh
[19:20] <pythonlova> my
[19:20] <pythonlova> python
[19:21] <pythonlova> dbus--
[19:21] <pythonlova> enviornment is clean \o/
[19:21] <pythonlova> now why would you want to a user's environment when you launch a dbus service as user
[19:21] <pythonlova> hm
[19:21] <pythonlova> let me think
[19:21] <pythonlova> maybe because you need one flipping env var
[19:21] <pythonlova> omg!
[19:21] <pythonlova> did not think of that
[19:21] <pythonlova> dbus--
[19:22]  * pythonlova looks for setting to change that
[19:22]  * ulysses loves Muon
[19:22] <CIA-33> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1148102 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/TODO Update TODO
[19:23] <pythonlova> there is none! \o/
[19:24] <JontheEchidna> So I'm making a roadmap for the first stable release of Muon. I'd like to have 1.0 out a little bit before Ubuntu feature freeze
[19:24] <JontheEchidna> ulysses: is there a recommended amount of time before release to string freeze/notify kde-l10n?
[19:25] <pythonlova> JontheEchidna: mind the easter egg :P
[19:25] <pythonlova> so
[19:25] <pythonlova> may I say that this is all very full of shit?
[19:25] <shadeslayer> no apachelogger? 0_o
[19:25] <ulysses> JontheEchidna: I don't know about string freeze, there isn't anything in the release schedule
[19:25] <shadeslayer> well... JontheEchidna will have to do then :P
[19:25] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: ruby poke
[19:26] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: do you have why's poignant guide to ruby around?
[19:26] <JontheEchidna> nope
[19:26] <pythonlova> kubotu: google poignant guide to ruby
[19:26] <kubotu> Results for poignant guide to ruby: 1. why's (poignant) guide to ruby: http://mislav.uniqpath.com/poignant-guide/book/ | 2. Why's (Poignant) Guide to Ruby: http://mislav.uniqpath.com/poignant-guide/ | 3. Why's (poignant) Guide to Ruby - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why&apos;s_(poignant)_Guide_to_Ruby
[19:26] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: one sec.. lemme give you direct download link
[19:27] <JontheEchidna> why do I need it, if I may ask?
[19:27] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/Books/Whys-Poignant-Guide-to-Ruby.pdf
[19:27] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: i need to ask a ruby question,if you have the time ;)
[19:27] <JontheEchidna> pythonlova is around. I do not knows teh rubies
[19:28] <shadeslayer> ok..
[19:28] <shadeslayer> pythonlova: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/Books/Whys-Poignant-Guide-to-Ruby.pdf <<
[19:28] <pythonlova> pysons vs. rubies
[19:28] <pythonlova> kubotu: karma python
[19:28] <kubotu> karma for python: -11
[19:28] <pythonlova> kubotu: karma ruby
[19:28] <kubotu> ruby has neutral karma
[19:28] <JontheEchidna> [13:36:44] *** apachelogger is now known as pythonlova.
[19:28] <shadeslayer> oho
[19:28] <pythonlova> works for me
[19:28] <pythonlova> kubotu: karma C
[19:28] <kubotu> karma for C: 305
[19:28] <shadeslayer> pythonlova: hehe.. anyways.. page 19 ...
[19:28] <pythonlova> C++
[19:28] <shadeslayer> lol...
[19:29] <pythonlova> what does one see there?
[19:29] <shadeslayer> pythonlova: there wont be any karma for C++ tho :(
[19:29] <pythonlova> C++++
[19:29] <JontheEchidna> C++++
[19:29] <pythonlova> kubotu: karma C++
[19:29] <kubotu> karma for C++: 5
[19:29] <pythonlova> there you have it
[19:29] <shadeslayer> pythonlova: the |http| variable.. where is it defined?
[19:29] <JontheEchidna> ~karma C
[19:29] <kubotu> karma for C: 308
[19:29] <shadeslayer> pythonlova: right
[19:29] <pythonlova> shadeslayer: exactly there
[19:29] <shadeslayer> pythonlova: Net:HTTP just calls the function right?
[19:29] <shadeslayer> pythonlova: 0_o
[19:30] <pythonlova> {|foo| ... } is like do |foo| ...
[19:30] <pythonlova> see top of that very page
[19:30] <shadeslayer> pythonlova: you can define variables without a declaring a type?
[19:30] <pythonlova> it is just a more readable way of writing it
[19:30] <pythonlova> shadeslayer: http is that Net::HTTP thingy
[19:30] <shadeslayer> pythonlova: yeah.. but how can... 
[19:31] <shadeslayer> how the hell do you define a variable with no type!!!!
[19:31] <pythonlova> you never define a type
[19:31] <pythonlova> when did you ever define a type?
[19:31] <shadeslayer> pythonlova: whut? like int a; 
[19:31] <pythonlova> you do not do that in ruby?!
[19:31] <shadeslayer> wheres the int thingy...
[19:31] <pythonlova> a = number
[19:31] <jussi> does anyone know who is responsible for our testing images?
[19:31]  * shadeslayer points to channel
[19:32] <jussi> particularly the names of them? 
[19:32] <shadeslayer> jussi: well.. i do test some images..
[19:32]  * shadeslayer fears jussi's wrath
[19:32] <pythonlova> if (&shadeslayer == this) return 0;
[19:32] <shadeslayer> but i didnt test Alpha 2
[19:32] <jussi> its kinda frustrating to have ubuntu and kubuntu images named the same....
[19:33] <pythonlova> shadeslayer: is that code clear now?
[19:33] <shadeslayer> jussi: 0_o
[19:33] <jussi> shadeslayer: no, Im just after who names them
[19:33] <pythonlova> jussi: the script
[19:33] <shadeslayer> jussi: that would be the script
[19:33] <pythonlova> jussi: go poke cjwatson
[19:33] <shadeslayer> :P
[19:33] <jussi> pythonlova: yeah, and who wrote the script :P
[19:33] <pythonlova> cjwatson is overlord of the cdimage script last I checked
[19:34] <shadeslayer> ScottK: oh btw can you check if the issue is with arora and konqueror webkit part as well?
[19:34] <shadeslayer> pythonlova: im reading it once again ;)
[19:34] <shadeslayer> pythonlova: btw whats this? 
[19:34] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Not easily.  I don't have any of those installed.
[19:34] <shadeslayer> :P
[19:35] <shadeslayer> ScottK: not even konqueror webkit part?
[19:35] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Nope.  Just stock konqueror
[19:35] <shadeslayer> :P
[19:35] <pythonlova> this
[19:35] <pythonlova> konquer the world!
[19:35] <ScottK> shadeslayer: That and I'm pretty allergic to the LP web interface, so I try to minimize my use of it.
[19:35] <pythonlova> <3 konqueror
[19:36] <shadeslayer> pythonlova: 'this' as in this->func() ??
[19:36] <shadeslayer> ScottK: hehe...
[19:36] <pythonlova> aye
[19:36] <pythonlova> this as in this :P
[19:36] <shadeslayer> pythonlova: you make strange code.. :P
[19:37] <pythonlova> how so?
[19:37]  * pythonlova does not do loads of inline code in .h  :P
[19:38] <pythonlova> although I do that at times ;)
[19:38] <pythonlova> JontheEchidna: ^ afraid now? :P
[19:38] <shadeslayer> hehe... :D
[19:38] <JontheEchidna> :P
[19:39] <pythonlova> also I am not dbus and strip whole environments
[19:39]  * pythonlova has no clue how to reliably check whether to use kwallet -.-
[19:40]  * lex79 finished to refresh Qt patches
[19:40] <shadeslayer> pythonlova: whats the first line of ruby code? something like usr/something/ruby...
[19:41] <shadeslayer> why's poignant guide is silent on that stuff
[19:41] <lex79> shadeslayer: instead of chatting, do your packages :P
[19:41] <pythonlova> shadeslayer: #!/usr/bin/env ruby
[19:41] <pythonlova> well
[19:41] <pythonlova> technically you do not need that stuff :P
[19:41] <shadeslayer> lex79: just uploaded kdetoys :D
[19:41] <pythonlova> one can also run ruby filename
[19:42] <shadeslayer> mmm
[19:42] <shadeslayer> oh please ... someone patch dolphin so that it just asks for passwords once when opening ssh locations
[19:43] <shadeslayer> not everytime i go in a folder -.-
[19:43] <ScottK> pythonlova: I think subversion has some magic to know if it should use kwallet or gnome-whateveritis
[19:43] <CIA-33> [muon] jmthomas * 1148116 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/main.cpp Make Muon a KUniqueApplication
[19:45] <ulysses> JontheEchidna: If I can report a bug in Muon, the Hungarian characters are wrong on the Dependencies page of a package: http://people.ubuntu.com/~ulysses/images/dependencies.png (However I don't where they come from…)
[19:45] <JontheEchidna> ulysses: I fixed that shortly after alpha1 ;) (The translations in that case came from apt)
[19:46] <JontheEchidna> I was just getting the text from apt in the wrong format
[19:47] <ulysses> …and the apt translation came from Debian, which answers many questions:P
[19:47] <Quintasan> god damnint
[19:48] <Quintasan> can't I modify vim's rules file so that I get it compiled statically?
[19:49] <lex79> shadeslayer: update the wiki when you upload a package
[19:49] <lex79> thanks :)
[19:49] <JontheEchidna> ulysses: What are your font hinting settings? They look really good
[19:49] <shadeslayer> pythonlova: ok so we can declare stuff in ruby without telling ruby what it actually should contain? like http='name' automatically sets http to contain a string? 
[19:49] <ulysses> JontheEchidna: It's the new Ubuntu font from the private PPA
[19:50] <shadeslayer> lex79: ill update all of it in one go
[19:50] <shadeslayer> less noise that way
[19:50] <JontheEchidna> ulysses: yeah, I have the beta font, but yours looks better than mine
[19:50] <pythonlova> ScottK: supposedly it uses the env var to check for a KDE session
[19:50] <pythonlova> though IIRC there is also a binary for that
[19:50] <pythonlova> well
[19:50]  * pythonlova doesnt wanna look at this anymore today
[19:51] <pythonlova> shadeslayer: yes
[19:51]  * shadeslayer gets it now
[19:51] <shadeslayer> pythonlova: thanks ;)
[19:51] <shadeslayer> also.. ruby++
[19:51] <lex79> shadeslayer: I don't like, the wiki is here for that, to check the progress
[19:52] <shadeslayer> lex79: well..if you like more noise.. sure ;)
[19:52] <lex79> yes I like the noise, thanks :)
[19:54] <shadeslayer> lex79: btw are you splitting kdenetwork?
[19:55] <lex79> no, we have not decided yet
[19:55] <shadeslayer> ok..
[19:55] <shadeslayer> lex79: wiki updated...
[19:56] <lex79> thx
[19:56] <ScottK> Any volunteers to do a MIR for plasma-widget-menubar?
[19:58] <shadeslayer> ScottK: aha! its a issue with webkit
[19:58] <shadeslayer> ScottK: in konqueror its almost the same behaviour
[19:58] <shadeslayer> it saves the comment without any error,but doesnt show the new comment
[19:59]  * shadeslayer fears jussi's wrath again..
[19:59] <shadeslayer> i closed one of his bugs :P
[20:00] <shadeslayer> Bug #588160 
[20:00] <jussi> shadeslayer: did you fix it?
[20:00] <shadeslayer> hmm...
[20:00] <shadeslayer> whats the cups port again?
[20:01] <jussi> 631
[20:02] <shadeslayer> i dont know the username and pass :P
[20:02] <shadeslayer> when adding the printer
[20:02] <neversfelde> reinstall :)
[20:03] <shadeslayer> hehe...
[20:03] <shadeslayer> 0_o.. you cant ctrl+C apt-get remove :D
[20:04] <shadeslayer> After this operation, 156MB disk space will be freed. << whoa
[20:05] <shadeslayer> uh... After this operation, 131MB of additional disk space will be used. << on reinstalling all of the removed stuff
[20:06] <shadeslayer> jussi: so right now it doesnt hang at add printers :P
[20:06] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Did you file bugs on the LP/webkit thing?
[20:07] <shadeslayer> ScottK: uh.. file bugs ON webkit or file bugs WITH konqueror webkit part ?
[20:07] <JontheEchidna> hmm
[20:07] <JontheEchidna> the kerning between - and other letters seems off
[20:07] <JontheEchidna> http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktoptf1498-jpg.jpg
[20:07] <ScottK> shadeslayer: On.  Need to get it fixed.  Filing bugs is step 1.
[20:08] <shadeslayer> ScottK: hmm.. i guess it should be fixed with lex79 new upload :)
[20:08] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Why do you guess that?
[20:08] <shadeslayer> ScottK: because i cant be sure :)
[20:08] <shadeslayer> ScottK: ill file the bug...
[20:08] <ScottK> shadeslayer: then you'll have time to work on the plasma-widget-menubar MIR while we wait to see.
[20:09] <lex79> :)
[20:09] <shadeslayer> ScottK: whut! no no... please no more MIR's "{
[20:09] <shadeslayer> :P
[20:09] <shadeslayer> ive filed 5-6 already.. :D
[20:09] <ScottK> It's only one wafer thin MIR.
[20:09]  * shadeslayer yeilds...
[20:09] <shadeslayer> ScottK: fine... 
[20:09] <ScottK> Thanks.
[20:09]  * shadeslayer will have to work all night now ... something he was already planning to do :P
[20:10] <shadeslayer> ok.. now i have to please ScottK and lex79 ...
[20:10] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Eventually you become a developer and get your own minions.
[20:10] <shadeslayer> ScottK: why do we need it tho? :D
[20:10] <shadeslayer> ScottK: right.... :D
[20:10] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Part of the planned default install for netbooks.
[20:11] <shadeslayer> mmm... ok
[20:13] <shadeslayer> lex79: btw for each distribution upload we have one source tarball right? like one tarball for lucid and another one for maverick?
[20:13] <shadeslayer> ( of the same package )
[20:17]  * lex79 doesn't understand the question :(
[20:18] <shadeslayer> lex79: suppose i want to upload foo package,in maverick and lucid,do i upload the sources for maverick and lucid seprately?
[20:18] <shadeslayer> or just upload for one distribution 
[20:19] <lex79> two uploads, one for maverick with debuild -S -sa (with source)
[20:19] <lex79> another for lucid with debuild -S -sd (without the source)
[20:19] <shadeslayer> right.. that answers it
[20:29] <shadeslayer> ScottK: do you want a detailed MIR , like every point on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMainInclusionRequirements explained?
[20:29] <shadeslayer> or just a simple one,with the basic stuff
[20:29] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Yes, although it doens't have to be a long explanation
[20:30] <shadeslayer> ScottK: ok... so detailed with small explanation ...
[20:30] <shadeslayer> ScottK: no package in debian 0_o
[20:31] <ScottK> shadeslayer: No.  It's developed by Canonical.
[20:31] <ScottK> It's fine.
[20:31] <shadeslayer> kewl
[20:42] <shadeslayer> ScottK: bug 603731
[20:43] <shadeslayer> feel free to edit the description
[20:43] <ScottK> Thanks.  Looking
[20:43] <shadeslayer> correct the stuff about notebooks...
[20:44] <shadeslayer> *corrected
[20:44] <shadeslayer> loads of typos today ..:P
[20:55]  * shadeslayer shifts to merging kadu while artwork builds
[21:02] <pythonlova> JontheEchidna: IMHO kerning in general is off with that font TBH
[21:04] <ScottK> shadeslayer: MIR looks good.  We'll see what they say.
[21:04] <shadeslayer> ScottK: kewl :)
[21:04] <ScottK> Thanks for taking it on
[21:07] <shadeslayer> ScottK: sure np
[21:14] <shadeslayer> ScottK: look at this https://merges.ubuntu.com/f/freej/REPORT
[21:14] <shadeslayer> :P
[21:14] <shadeslayer> its fricking huge :D
[21:14] <ScottK> It'll be easier to do that one by hand.
[21:15] <shadeslayer> yeah.. but still .. look at the conflicts :P
[21:15] <shadeslayer> the sheer number of conflicts :D
[21:17] <shadeslayer> ScottK: any other stuff that needs to be done?
[21:18] <ScottK> Yes.  No idea what though.
[21:18] <shadeslayer> ScottK: hehe... like any universe + KDE stuff?
[21:20] <shadeslayer> since i cant find any :D
[21:20] <shadeslayer> all i can find is gnomeish stuff... which im forced to do :P
[21:25] <shadeslayer> omg...
[21:26] <shadeslayer> Copied from ubuntu intrepid in Primary Archive for Ubuntu
[21:26] <shadeslayer> since intrepid!!!!
[21:26] <shadeslayer> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fprint-demo
[21:26]  * shadeslayer wonders if we have had a new upstream release since then
[21:27] <ScottK> shadeslayer: For some of us Intrepid seems recent.
[21:27] <shadeslayer> seems not
[21:27] <shadeslayer> ScottK: really?
[21:28] <shadeslayer> we have packages predating intrepid that were being copied?
[21:28] <ScottK> Probably.
[21:28] <ScottK> Actually we have a few that haven't been updated since warty I believe.
[21:29]  * ScottK is out for a while.
[21:29] <shadeslayer> ScottK: btw bug 248879 can be closed safely i believe?
[21:29] <shadeslayer> uh ok :)
[21:38] <shadeslayer> lex79: poke
[21:39] <shadeslayer> lex79: can we ship a new bangarang?
[21:39] <shadeslayer> http://code.google.com/p/bangarangissuetracking/downloads/detail?name=bangarang-2.0~alpha.tar.gz&can=2&q=
[21:39] <shadeslayer> its alpha build
[21:39] <lex79> is it sync with Debian?
[21:39] <shadeslayer> dont think debian has 2.0
[21:39] <shadeslayer> lemme check
[21:40] <shadeslayer> nope
[21:40] <shadeslayer> debian has 1.0
[21:40] <lex79> yes the package is sync'ed with Debian
[21:40] <lex79> 1.0.1-1
[21:40] <lex79> so, wait Debian maybe
[21:40] <shadeslayer> oh.. you meant it that way :P
[21:40] <lex79> yes, sorry.... :)
[21:41] <shadeslayer> lex79: ok so wait for debian to package new version?
[21:42] <lex79> ryanakca: ^^
[21:42] <shadeslayer> lex79: ??
[21:43] <lex79> ryanakca is the maintainer of bangarang in Debian
[21:43] <lex79> iirc.... :)
[21:43] <shadeslayer> right :D
[21:44] <shadeslayer> ryanakca: new alpha of bangarang out,any ideas if debian gets shiny new alpha,so we can ship it with kubuntu ;)
[22:07] <shadeslayer> lex79: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2010/07/blacklisting-drivers-for-some-kwin-effects/
[22:07] <shadeslayer> might want to take a look
[22:29] <shadeslayer> lex79: around?
[23:01] <lex79> shadeslayer: yes now
[23:01] <shadeslayer> one sec
[23:01] <shadeslayer> lex79: do we use dh_desktop and  dh_icons ?? or are they depreceated?
[23:01] <lex79> where?
[23:01] <shadeslayer> in debian/rules
[23:02] <shadeslayer> not in a kde* package.. its a package in universe that needs merging
[23:02] <lex79> uhm
[23:02] <ScottK> shadeslayer: You should ask on #ubuntu-motu then so people there get to know you too.
[23:02] <shadeslayer> ScottK: channel is dead or they dont know :P
[23:02] <lex79> I think dh_icons is deprecated but not sure
[23:03] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Not anymore.
[23:03] <shadeslayer> hehe
[23:03] <lex79> lol
[23:04] <tsdgeos> shadeslayer: ping
[23:05] <shadeslayer> tsdgeos: pong
[23:05] <shadeslayer> aah aacid
[23:05] <tsdgeos> that'd be me
[23:05] <shadeslayer> :P
[23:05] <shadeslayer> yeah i just sent a mail to you :P
[23:05]  * tsdgeos wonders if others will be offended if we start a kde l10n discussion here?
[23:06] <shadeslayer> tsdgeos: would be better in #kde-in
[23:07] <ScottK> tsdgeos: As long as it doesn't involve cursing about Kubuntu translations being crap, I think it's OK.
[23:07] <tsdgeos> i can try to contain myself :-P
[23:09]  * lex79 is uploading Qt beta2
[23:10] <shadeslayer> ScottK: hi translations are in the dump upstream :P
[23:10] <ryanakca> shadeslayer: I can look into it :)
[23:10] <shadeslayer> ryanakca: oooh
[23:10] <shadeslayer> ryanakca: awesome :D
[23:11] <shadeslayer> ryanakca: please do notify when its uploaded 
[23:11] <lex79> Qt now is 192 MB
[23:11] <lex79> :(
[23:11] <ryanakca> shadeslayer: I'll update it at some point tonight or Monday, I'm gone all weekend. Will do.
[23:11] <shadeslayer> ok :)
[23:11] <shadeslayer> ryanakca: no rush ;)
[23:13]  * lex79 thinks we have some troubles with Qtwebkit packaging
[23:13] <shadeslayer> lex79: uh oh
[23:13] <shadeslayer> that means rekonq will be affected as well
[23:14] <shadeslayer> which means ScottK will be after me again 
[23:14] <shadeslayer> :P
[23:14] <lex79> dunno exactly, I don't test it so much
[23:14] <lex79> I tested it only with youtube and other flash sites
[23:15] <shadeslayer> uh.. right... flash...
[23:24] <Quintasan> hmm
[23:24] <lex79> shadeslayer: so, we still need only to do kdenetwork and kdebingings ?
[23:24] <Quintasan> anyone knows if there is an ncurses build for armel?
[23:24] <shadeslayer> lex79: seems so
[23:25] <lex79> shadeslayer: great, did you push your changes to bzr?
[23:25]  * shadeslayer is tied up with kdel10n + ninja packaging + MOTU + REVU + Ruby
[23:25] <shadeslayer> lex79: not yet :)
[23:25] <shadeslayer> look at the amount of multi tasking :P
[23:25] <shadeslayer> lex79: ill push now...
[23:25] <shadeslayer> none of them need changes tho
[23:25] <lex79> ok
[23:36] <ryanakca> ScottK: I've found another groupware server, (package: citadel-suite). I've only glanced at it, but I'm hoping that it will be less of a PITA to setup and run than eGroupWare (which was less of a PITA than Kolab). I assume people are still interested in it?
[23:36] <ScottK> ryanakca: I'm particularly interested in Kolab because it's well integrated with kdepim.
[23:36] <ScottK> One of their developers was at UDS and trying to get it working better in Ubuntu.
[23:37]  * shadeslayer has never understood the concept of kolab
[23:39] <shadeslayer> lex79: do we want kdepim beta in archives?
[23:39] <shadeslayer> since pim devs have furthered the beta 2 release
[23:39] <lex79> no, only in experimental ppa
[23:40] <shadeslayer> ok..
[23:40] <shadeslayer> lex79: then i need help with kdepim beta :P
[23:40] <shadeslayer> some of it..
[23:40] <shadeslayer> ill poke when i get to it in 20 mins
[23:40] <lex79> ok
[23:40] <ryanakca> ScottK: Ah, according to their website, Citadel integrates with kdepim too, but I'll give Kolab another look, maybe it's better now than it used to be...
[23:41]  * lex79 uploaded Qt
[23:42]  * lex79 can screw up kubuntu now
[23:47] <neversfelde> lex79: great
[23:47] <lex79> :)
[23:48] <lex79> neversfelde: still hot? :(
[23:48] <neversfelde> shadeslayer: I read about postponing kdepim to 4.6, so u
[23:48] <shadeslayer> neversfelde: 4.6 ??? \o/
[23:48] <neversfelde> upload to experimental
[23:49] <lex79> maybe 4.6, but they are not sure for now
[23:49] <shadeslayer> neversfelde: not 4.6 .. its just been postponed by a few weeks 
[23:49] <lex79> ^
[23:49] <lex79> depends if the source are stable
[23:50] <neversfelde> lex79: yes, really, I cannot remeber that it was so hot in Germany, ever since I was born
[23:51] <lex79> :( I have to go to Hamburg Monday :(
[23:51]  * lex79 starts to cry
[23:54] <ScottK> shadeslayer: If you have any experience with Qt programming, konq-plugins needs porting to Qt 4.7 and it's pretty trivial.
[23:55] <shadeslayer> ScottK: Qt programming skillz == 0
[23:55] <ScottK> OK. Me too.
[23:55] <shadeslayer> but i know some basic stuff
[23:55] <shadeslayer> QWidget stuff and connect
[23:56] <lex79> shadeslayer: btw the priority is kdenetwork, you can do kdepim in the next days
[23:56] <lex79> and kdepim-runtime
[23:56] <shadeslayer> lex79: runtime is done :)
[23:56] <shadeslayer> its in bzr
[23:56] <lex79> awesome :)
[23:56] <ScottK> shadeslayer: You may know enough then.
[23:57] <shadeslayer> lex79: yeah.. kdepim is a PITA tho
[23:57] <shadeslayer> ScottK: 0_o
[23:58] <ScottK> shadeslayer: If you look at one of the logs, you can see that there's a small change needed because of new features in 4.7 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/konq-plugins/4:4.4.0-2/+build/1844855/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-i386.konq-plugins_4:4.4.0-2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[23:58] <ScottK> IIRC JontheEchidna fixed one of these already.  He might have a hint for you.